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Stoffer Ninjapirate Amarr GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.07.18 16:55:00 - [1] Thank you to CCP for conducting a swift investigation and setting the record straight, ending the theorycrafting. Now that the account was unbanned, let's hear what you got :)
Fudgefairy Caldari The Ghazi	Posted - 2007.07.18 16:56:00 - [2] just got a total tally of things that have been stolen, 300bill+
TrevorReznik Alt Merch Industrial We Are Nice Guys	Posted - 2007.07.18 16:56:00 - [3] Good work CCP in letting everyone know the account was banned for the investigation, then reinstated. I didn't realize that was procedure, but it helps clear things up :) Now, let's see some images of what was stolen!
Phelan Driscoll GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.07.18 16:58:00 - [4] Originally by: TrevorReznik Alt Good work CCP in letting everyone know the account was banned for the investigation, then reinstated. I didn't realize that was procedure, but it helps clear things up :) IIRC, if you even transfer a large amount of isk between two characters that you own it gets flagged and looked into. Pretty good policy, I think. _________________________________________ Are GoonSwarm ever going to be allowed to build up in any way in 0.0 space again? No.
Stoffer Ninjapirate Amarr GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.07.18 16:58:00 - [5] And another question, is the loot trapped in the stations, or did he manage to get any of it out?
jamesw Omniscient Order Cruel Intentions	Posted - 2007.07.18 16:59:00 - [6] Timely question - did he get the 5 state issue ships that were awarded last tournament? -- Latest Vid: Domination!
Butter Dog The Littlest Hobos Betrayal Under Mayhem	Posted - 2007.07.18 17:00:00 - [7] Originally by: Stoffer Ninjapirate And another question, is the loot trapped in the stations, or did he manage to get any of it out? When we had our assets in ISSN stolen when the corp was still quite young, it was ransomed back to us for two-thirds of market price. We accepted and paid, of course, because it was so much easier and cheaper than re-stocking. ---------- signature removed - please do not discuss moderation in your signature graphic - Jacques([email protected])
Erik Amirault Gallente GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.07.18 17:01:00 - [8] Originally by: jamesw Timely question - did he get the 5 state issue ships that were awarded last tournament? Oh god I hope so ><
FGxHalsey Battlestars GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.07.18 17:02:00 - [9] Edited by: FGxHalsey on 18/07/2007 17:02:35 Repost in the official discussion thread The original thread can be found here http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=558837 The very last post was a confirmation by CCP that it was a corp theft and not a hack or prank. Quote: The account was banned during the investigation, since the investigation is over the character is unbanned. Also, this is about a corp/alliance related issue, as such it should be discussed in the CAOD forum, so I'm locking this, but feel free to discuss it there. Wrangler Community Manager EVE Online Other details from a chatlog: Quote: Str0be > i musta robbed a good 100billion, maybe more alt > describe what you stole Str0be > capitals, minerals bpos Str0be > low, mid, high slots and ammo Str0be > tabs Str0be > in alenia, 3 stations, kfie 2 stations, jo- 1 huge amount Str0be > only thing i never got was locked down tech 2 Str0be > they are evols 3 main areas alt > welp alt > how exactly did you do it? Str0be > had access to it Str0be > was trusted member on Flatliner Str0be > been in and out of evol for years alt > do you still have access to bob forums/iRC? alt > can you give me the password to #bob so I can see if you're Str0be > naa password was in for awhile Str0be > alt > welp alt > ahahah alt > it's true oh ** Str0be > see Str0be > confirmation Str0be > alt > oh ** ahahahha oh man I love you Str0be > true, but you guys need to hit jo- and around there Str0be > they have no logistics, real mess Str0be > i took all the minerals etc Str0be > say hi to my red brothers Str0be > tovaritch Str0be > i got all the stront in jo Str0be > and pos fuels Str0be > and dreads Str0be > lotso of them Str0be > they are weak alt > how many dreads? Str0be > 8+ that i quickly saw, tons of ships Str0be > and freighters Str0be > loads of battleships Str0be > command ships etc Str0be > everything Str0be > some say 300bills worth Str0be > but i cant login to be sure
Minas Reul Synergy. Imperial Republic Of the North	Posted - 2007.07.18 17:03:00 - [10] Damn, that's really sad. Corp theft is a poor thing to do, especially in a communist corp, but I suppose the longer you go on, and the higher the stakes are, the more inevitable it becomes. I hope nobody thinks this is okay just because it's BoB, even if you are enemies in game.
Morris Falter The Collective Against ALL Authorities	Posted - 2007.07.18 17:03:00 - [11] Ouch! Any reasons given?
pyklet uk1 Gallente UK1 Zero Red Moon Federation	Posted - 2007.07.18 17:03:00 - [12] Who, what, where and when? As a wise man once wrote ... Proof or STFU!
MuthaTrucka Amarr Celestial Horizon Corp. Valainaloce	Posted - 2007.07.18 17:04:00 - [13] Corp theft is always a bad Sad thing. --------------- Don't Call me a Carebear, I don't really care about much at all.

Chribba Otherworld Enterprises Otherworld Empire	Posted - 2007.07.18 17:04:00 - [14] Where's the event thread where he will give away 50% of the theft for a silly reason? and how ebil, but tbh such thefts seem to be coming once every year so congrats for the best theft of the year so far (?) Help me help you .

Plave Okice Naughty 40 Triumvirate.	Posted - 2007.07.18 17:04:00 - [15] He'll be too busy counting the booty and giggling manically to take pics, or at least I would. EDIT - and nice to see a swift reaction and statement from CCP
Dungar Loghoth Caldari Black Omega Security Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2007.07.18 17:05:00 - [16] Originally by: Stoffer Ninjapirate And another question, is the loot trapped in the stations, or did he manage to get any of it out? From what I recall, BoB keeps most of their assets in NPC stations since systems like NOL have NPC refinery/factory combo stations right next door, and there's no chance they can be locked out of a station if one were ever taken. I'm sure they're thrilled with this decision.
Iraf Thaiberd Black Omega Security Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2007.07.18 17:06:00 - [17] Originally by: Minas Reul I hope nobody thinks this is okay just because it's BoB, even if you are enemies in game. I don't think it's "okay" just because it's BoB. I do think it's hysterical just because it's BoB, though.
Yuki Li Caldari Omerta Syndicate Exuro Mortis	Posted - 2007.07.18 17:06:00 - [18] I find infiltration and so on pretty interesting stuff usually, but outright betrayal of long term trust is pretty lame. Still, you're rich I guess ;\| Website Recruiting
sharkyballs Amarr Dkiller Delta Force Corp. Curse Alliance	Posted - 2007.07.18 17:06:00 - [19] agian i have to say, simply epic. and nicely handled by ccp
The Beatnuts UA Industry Red Alliance	Posted - 2007.07.18 17:06:00 - [20] could i get a nice discount on some few carriers? Don't speak english - f1, f2, f3
Jimer Lins Gallente Sanctuary	Posted - 2007.07.18 17:06:00 - [21] Originally by: pyklet uk1 Who, what, where and when? As a wise man once wrote ... Proof or STFU! Str0be, claiming to be Flatliner's alt who ws banned during the investigation, said he stole a ton of stuff, like hundreds of billions worth. It's at least confirmed that SOME kind of theft took place, and given that CCP doesn't generally temp ban people just to investigate an act of petty corp thievery, it's a good bet this was a big one. Of course, this is all speculation. SEARCh- we find sites for you!
Stoffer Ninjapirate Amarr GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.07.18 17:06:00 - [22] Donate the cap ships to Goonfleet for hilarity.
Narciss Sevar Caldari Caldari Provisions	Posted - 2007.07.18 17:07:00 - [23] snip Posting with an unidentified character or posting with characters in NPC corporations in this forum is prohibited. If you wish to participate in the discussions here, be sure to have your corporation and or alliance status ticked in your forum settings. -Eldo Davip ([email protected])
Luigi Thirty Caldari 19th Star Logistics	Posted - 2007.07.18 17:07:00 - [24] Epic fail on BoB's part. ---- DOMINIX IS INVINCIBLE:((((
Lore Isander Caldari Paisti	Posted - 2007.07.18 17:07:00 - [25] Originally by: Plave Okice He'll be too busy counting the booty and giggling manically to take pics, or at least I would. EDIT - and nice to see a swift reaction and statement from CCP I would be taking screenshots in the first place, just to showoff --- How do I shot web?
BobFromMarketing Amarr GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.07.18 17:08:00 - [26] EPIC WIN Much love for da op and da thief.
Graalum Foundation R0ADKILL	Posted - 2007.07.18 17:08:00 - [27] Edited by: Graalum on 18/07/2007 17:11:45 300 billion for evol is probably like someone stealing a few bil from a normal one. Unlike the STK theft, this doesn't look like he got the income source aka bpo's, so in the long run its not that bad a hurt, despite the scale.
Dungar Loghoth Caldari Black Omega Security Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2007.07.18 17:08:00 - [28] Edited by: Dungar Loghoth on 18/07/2007 17:08:43 Originally by: Jimer Lins It's at least confirmed that SOME kind of theft took place, and given that CCP doesn't generally temp ban people just to investigate an act of petty corp thievery, it's a good bet this was a big one. Of course, this is all speculation. Wrong. If someone reports an account as hacked, CCP bans first and then investigates to prevent further damage. Wrangler and Kieron even said the account was suspended because of the massive scale of the theft, so it wasn't just another "petty theft" Originally by: Graalum 300 billion for evol is probably like someone stealing 3 or for bil for a normal one. Unlike the STK theft, this doesn't look like he got the income source aka bpo's Yeah dude, they didn't want those assets anyway.
jeffb GoonFleet	Posted - 2007.07.18 17:09:00 - [29] did you get the titan fund?
Cipher7 OldBastardsPub SMASH Alliance	Posted - 2007.07.18 17:09:00 - [30] Screenshots please.
Nickhastapee Maelstrom Crew	Posted - 2007.07.18 17:09:00 - [31] ISD locked my thread AND said to use it for discussion :\
Graalum Foundation R0ADKILL	Posted - 2007.07.18 17:09:00 - [32] Edited by: Graalum on 18/07/2007 17:09:32 quoted instead of edited
BobFromMarketing Amarr GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.07.18 17:10:00 - [33] Ya, i especially love how when he locked it, he linked to the thread he just locked and said no YOU TALK HERE. Truly baffling. Must be one of those days in iceland.
Erik Amirault Gallente GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.07.18 17:10:00 - [34] Originally by: Graalum 300 billion for evol is probably like someone stealing 3 or for bil for a normal one. Unlike the STK theft, this doesn't look like he got the income source aka bpo's Anyone that loses that much money during one of the most expensive wars in Eve history feels the pain, dude.
D3athsHead British Clan Killers	Posted - 2007.07.18 17:10:00 - [35] Quote: Due to the size of the heist, the GM team took a look into it to see if there was any violations of the EULA. No misconduct was found and any actions taken against the player by CCP were reversed. kieron Director of Community Relations, EVE Online EVE Online, CCP Games Kieron has pretty much said their that he has taken a LOT - only time will tell exactly how much.
Peoke Caldari Unknown Shoe Corp. SMASH Alliance	Posted - 2007.07.18 17:10:00 - [36] all i can say is well played and what goes around comes around. all those pos offlining corp ts spying. maybe this will put them back in line.
Nickhastapee Maelstrom Crew	Posted - 2007.07.18 17:10:00 - [37] Originally by: BobFromMarketing Ya, i especially love how when he locked it, he linked to the thread he just locked and said no YOU TALK HERE. Truly baffling. Must be one of those days in iceland. Therefore, I deserve credit for this epic thread!
Xtreem Gallente Golden Orb Technology inc	Posted - 2007.07.18 17:11:00 - [38] wow pretty hard times for evol
Brock McF Caldari Einherjar Rising	Posted - 2007.07.18 17:11:00 - [39] I am going to throw this out there EPIC DAY! thanks for making my work day that much better. Wow, this one will be remembered. Brock McF
Polonium 210	Posted - 2007.07.18 17:11:00 - [40] Originally by: Graalum 300 billion for evol is probably like someone stealing 3 or for bil for a normal one. Unlike the STK theft, this doesn't look like he got the income source aka bpo's Yeah, they didn't want all that stuff anyway.
Jimer Lins Gallente Sanctuary	Posted - 2007.07.18 17:12:00 - [41] Edited by: Jimer Lins on 18/07/2007 17:12:50 Originally by: Dungar Loghoth Edited by: Dungar Loghoth on 18/07/2007 17:08:43 Originally by: Jimer Lins It's at least confirmed that SOME kind of theft took place, and given that CCP doesn't generally temp ban people just to investigate an act of petty corp thievery, it's a good bet this was a big one. Of course, this is all speculation. Wrong. If someone reports an account as hacked, CCP bans first and then investigates to prevent further damage. Wrangler and Kieron even said the account was suspended because of the massive scale of the theft, so it wasn't just another "petty theft" Err, that's pretty much what I said. "...given that CCP doesn't generally temp ban people just to investigate an act of petty corp thievery, it's a good bet this was a big one." They don't bother pre-emptively investigating for little things, so I'm inferring that this was big because the account was banned during the investigation. SEARCh- we find sites for you!
Nickhastapee Maelstrom Crew	Posted - 2007.07.18 17:13:00 - [42] As I said in the other thread... PICS or I'm a sad panda
Kaldaine GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.07.18 17:13:00 - [43] Originally by: Graalum Edited by: Graalum on 18/07/2007 17:09:32 quoted instead of edited Alas, alack, if only invention wasnt in game and there were still 10/10s to make billions of isk a day. I guess Orange Species needs to find some more trade routes.
Relaria Hossin GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.07.18 17:14:00 - [44] Originally by: Graalum Edited by: Graalum on 18/07/2007 17:11:45 300 billion for evol is probably like someone stealing a few bil from a normal one. Unlike the STK theft, this doesn't look like he got the income source aka bpo's, so in the long run its not that bad a hurt, despite the scale. Yeah they can totally make back 300b of assets in no time.
Marko Zhang Chargin Mah Lazors	Posted - 2007.07.18 17:14:00 - [45] Wonder if this will put a damper on the festivities at the BoB Weenie Roast.
Zag Jaggernaught	Posted - 2007.07.18 17:14:00 - [46] My question is why would the account be banned for the time of the investigation? When no wrong-doing was found? Why not investigate... then ban if needed? Guilty until proven innocent?
David Ryan Exanimo Inc Triumvirate.	Posted - 2007.07.18 17:15:00 - [47] Originally by: Marko Zhang Wonder if this will put a damper on the festivities at the BoB Weenie Roast. probably not tbh.. -------------------
NOObbody Mostly Harmless	Posted - 2007.07.18 17:15:00 - [48] Originally by: Relaria Hossin Originally by: Graalum Edited by: Graalum on 18/07/2007 17:11:45 300 billion for evol is probably like someone stealing a few bil from a normal one. Unlike the STK theft, this doesn't look like he got the income source aka bpo's, so in the long run its not that bad a hurt, despite the scale. Yeah they can totally make back 300b of assets in no time. Its no problem with the right tools... --- I was sworn to absolute secrecy!
Evil Bonzi Fire Mandrill	Posted - 2007.07.18 17:21:00 - [49] Originally by: Darknesss People are saying this is low, and bad and terrible. I REALLY disagree with corp theft but in this case i dont think anyone can feel sorry for evolution. Its no secret that BoB arent afraid to use any legitimate actions no matter how lame people view them to get ahead. For example when they smartbombed the D2 titan just as it logged, i think this is justice, they played dirty, and now its been done right back at them. I agree. I'm sure any moment now we'll get a Molle post saying "Nice one".
Zag Jaggernaught	Posted - 2007.07.18 17:21:00 - [50] Comon... it was perfectly clear who stole... why would they worry about him selling loot and hiding the evidence? and the question of "Hacking"? wouldn't that be done thru several accounts... and not just one?
D3athsHead British Clan Killers	Posted - 2007.07.18 17:21:00 - [51] Quote: People are saying this is low, and bad and terrible. I REALLY disagree with corp theft but in this case i dont think anyone can feel sorry for evolution. Its no secret that BoB arent afraid to use any legitimate actions no matter how lame people view them to get ahead. For example when they smartbombed the D2 titan just as it logged, i think this is justice, they played dirty, and now its been done right back at them QFT
Keta Min Armoured Assassins	Posted - 2007.07.18 17:22:00 - [52] ccp handled this one well. quick and without drama. gj.
jeffb GoonFleet	Posted - 2007.07.18 17:23:00 - [53] Originally by: Alice Cholmondeley It's amazing CCP acts so quickly with information under the threat of Goon spamming and abuse. Nice work showing how easy blackmail is. You don't see so many dev posts, if any at all, with other cases. talk about owned

CCP Wrangler	Posted - 2007.07.18 17:23:00 - [54] Originally by: Alice Cholmondeley It's amazing CCP acts so quickly with information under the threat of Goon spamming and abuse. Nice work showing how easy blackmail is. You don't see so many dev posts, if any at all, with other cases. It's about survival, we act fast now so we get less trouble to deal with later. I might actually be able to take tomorrow off because of it. Wrangler Community Manager EVE Online Contact Support - Contact Moderators - Report Bug - Submit News Leads - Knowledge Base Player Guide - Policies - Join ISD - Fan Submissions - DevFinder LiteÖ

Flow Befort GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.07.18 17:24:00 - [55] welp
Stoffer Ninjapirate Amarr GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.07.18 17:24:00 - [56] Originally by: Alice Cholmondeley Edited by: Alice Cholmondeley on 18/07/2007 17:20:07 Originally by: CCP Wrangler Originally by: Zag Jaggernaught My question is why would the account be banned for the time of the investigation? When no wrong-doing was found? Why not investigate... then ban if needed? Guilty until proven innocent? The account is banned in case it is hacked, to make sure the person hacking it doesn't cause any further damage. It's amazing CCP acts so quickly with information under the threat of Goon spamming and abuse. Nice work showing how easy blackmail is. You don't see so many dev posts, if any at all, with other cases. You're still a stupid****got.
Mihailo Great GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.07.18 17:24:00 - [57] A very wise decision Flatliner, time to start enjoying eve It won't be long before one of the top BOB members steals the BPO's too, as their alliance is falling apart on all fronts, and the smart ones move on first. Also, you're now eligible for Goonswarm leadership.
Krugerrand 0utbreak	Posted - 2007.07.18 17:24:00 - [58] Originally by: Zag Jaggernaught Comon... it was perfectly clear who stole... why would they worry about him selling loot and hiding the evidence? and the question of "Hacking"? wouldn't that be done thru several accounts... and not just one? Stop trying to troll and degrade CCPs actions. These are standard precautions when there is belief an account has been hacked and its best to play safe. If there is no EULA breach the account is returned in no time. The longer a hacker has access to an account the more damage he can do. It won't be clear until CCP investigate.
Cpt Pugwash Rubra Libertas Militia Insurgency	Posted - 2007.07.18 17:24:00 - [59] Originally by: Alice Cholmondeley Edited by: Alice Cholmondeley on 18/07/2007 17:20:07 Originally by: CCP Wrangler Originally by: Zag Jaggernaught My question is why would the account be banned for the time of the investigation? When no wrong-doing was found? Why not investigate... then ban if needed? Guilty until proven innocent? The account is banned in case it is hacked, to make sure the person hacking it doesn't cause any further damage. It's amazing CCP acts so quickly with information under the threat of Goon spamming and abuse. Nice work showing how easy blackmail is. You don't see so many dev posts, if any at all, with other cases. bitter little Evol alt Movies: Make Mine a Bob Light
Ander Gallente Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2007.07.18 17:25:00 - [60] Originally by: CCP Wrangler Originally by: Zag Jaggernaught My question is why would the account be banned for the time of the investigation? When no wrong-doing was found? Why not investigate... then ban if needed? Guilty until proven innocent? The account is banned in case it is hacked, to make sure the person hacking it doesn't cause any further damage. The investigation wasn't so much about the corp theft as to make sure the account wasn't hacked. If it was the afflicted corporation would have gotten the stuff back, something that would have been complicated if a hacker would use the time to spend money and items. A double edged sword really. By banning to prevent further damage you also limit potential corp-theft and extent of the heist. You have logs of everything, so why not let him finish doing what he's doing and check meanwhile to see if it's banned. Who knows if he could've grabbed much more? EVE PIRATE ANDER! now posting in "orange"
Alice Cholmondeley Christine.	Posted - 2007.07.18 17:25:00 - [61] Originally by: CCP Wrangler It's about survival, we act fast now so we get less trouble to deal with later. I might actually be able to take tomorrow off because of it. You do realize you're saying you would rather give in to threats then to deal with it properly, so you can be home early. Nice work.
Cassiuss Minmatar State of Shock	Posted - 2007.07.18 17:25:00 - [62] Cant believe how bitter the goons are. You'd think by how you talk you guys were down with Drone Region syndrome. Corp Thieves are scum on any level, giving a thief props shows to the rest of eve that you, your corp and alliance are tards. /Cassiuss
Alice Cholmondeley Christine.	Posted - 2007.07.18 17:26:00 - [63] Originally by: Stoffer Ninjapirate You're still a stupid****got. Mature.
Sebastien LeReparteur Minmatar Section XIII Tau Ceti Federation	Posted - 2007.07.18 17:26:00 - [64] Originally by: CCP Wrangler Originally by: Alice Cholmondeley It's amazing CCP acts so quickly with information under the threat of Goon spamming and abuse. Nice work showing how easy blackmail is. You don't see so many dev posts, if any at all, with other cases. It's about survival, we act fast now so we get less trouble to deal with later. I might actually be able to take tomorrow off because of it. Do you wait for him to finish the Theft or you ban him strait away? He could have done more damage... That is interference... ----------- It is by will alone I set my mind in motion. It is by the juice of sapho that thoughts acquire speed, the lips acquire stains, the stains become a warning. It is by will alone...
Evil Bonzi Fire Mandrill	Posted - 2007.07.18 17:26:00 - [65] Ok to end the GM actions - someone caught Flatliner taking from the corp hangars after having not seen him for so long and thought "wtf he'd never do this" and decided to petition it. End of story. Back to the heist..
Banduril GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.07.18 17:26:00 - [66] I can work up a rough draft for a war bond system if you Evolution guys are interested.
Havoc GunStar GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.07.18 17:27:00 - [67] Originally by: Graalum Edited by: Graalum on 18/07/2007 17:11:45 300 billion for evol is probably like someone stealing a few bil from a normal one. Unlike the STK theft, this doesn't look like he got the income source aka bpo's, so in the long run its not that bad a hurt, despite the scale. I love these posts. BoB could be burned to the ground, a couple guys left hiding in NPC stations, and there would be some nitwit still posting here about how NOW they are going to fight, NOW they are mad, boy you better run, here they come now! Are you scared? Are you running yet? They're coming! Seriously! Guess what everybody, BoB is mortal too. They've lost XGH and 9-9, a Titan, and now this, vulnerability to corp theft, just like everyone else. Sig removed. If you would like further details please mail [email protected] with a link to your signature. - Elmo Pug
Sonorra Baki Interstellar eXodus R0ADKILL	Posted - 2007.07.18 17:27:00 - [68] disregarding the specific parties involved, scoring such a large ammount in Eve is like a weat dream to me. This may not be work safe -Capsicum
Stoffer Ninjapirate Amarr GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.07.18 17:27:00 - [69] Originally by: Alice Cholmondeley Originally by: CCP Wrangler It's about survival, we act fast now so we get less trouble to deal with later. I might actually be able to take tomorrow off because of it. You do realize you're saying you would rather give in to threats then to deal with it properly, so you can be home early. Nice work. No one made threats you stupid troll. I personally said that I trusted in CCP investigating it, and even thanked them in the OP. Again, you're a stupid****got.
Kar Strike GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.07.18 17:28:00 - [70] Originally by: Alice Cholmondeley You do realize you're saying you would rather give in to threats then to deal with it properly, so you can be home early. Nice work. Why don't you make a bitter troll post about it?
TrevorReznik Alt Merch Industrial We Are Nice Guys	Posted - 2007.07.18 17:28:00 - [71] I've found that lotteries where individuals put in money and part of the proceeds go to the corp can be excellent fundraisers. More fun than mining too.
Cpt Pugwash Rubra Libertas Militia Insurgency	Posted - 2007.07.18 17:28:00 - [72] Originally by: Ander Originally by: CCP Wrangler Originally by: Zag Jaggernaught My question is why would the account be banned for the time of the investigation? When no wrong-doing was found? Why not investigate... then ban if needed? Guilty until proven innocent? The account is banned in case it is hacked, to make sure the person hacking it doesn't cause any further damage. The investigation wasn't so much about the corp theft as to make sure the account wasn't hacked. If it was the afflicted corporation would have gotten the stuff back, something that would have been complicated if a hacker would use the time to spend money and items. A double edged sword really. By banning to prevent further damage you also limit potential corp-theft and extent of the heist. You have logs of everything, so why not let him finish doing what he's doing and check meanwhile to see if it's banned. Who knows if he could've grabbed much more? You would imagine Evol would revoke his access rights immediately and petition ccp thereafter. You really think by the time CCP heard of this there was going to be any more damage done? Movies: Make Mine a Bob Light
Jarryn Kell Merch Industrial We Are Nice Guys	Posted - 2007.07.18 17:29:00 - [73] All I want to know: where's my share? I gots moral support a'plenty in return for the isku involved.
Mihailo Great GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.07.18 17:29:00 - [74] I like this new CCP, in fact everyone does. Since Rev2, my enjoyment of eve has increased exponentially. Thank you CCP. Also, you all should thank Goonswarm for this new CCP
Alice Cholmondeley Christine.	Posted - 2007.07.18 17:29:00 - [75] Edited by: Alice Cholmondeley on 18/07/2007 17:29:08 Originally by: Stoffer Ninjapirate No one made threats you stupid troll. I personally said that I trusted in CCP investigating it, and even thanked them in the OP. Again, you're a stupid**got. Quote:** Edited by: Relaria Hossin on 18/07/2007 16:22:47 Yes I foresee a few thousand upset players voicing their concern on these forums if he was banned for this perfectly legal corp theft. We all know what that means when goons show their ugly head. And try to behave, you sound like a little kid that has learned a new swear word.
Relaria Hossin GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.07.18 17:29:00 - [76] Originally by: Havoc GunStar Originally by: Graalum Edited by: Graalum on 18/07/2007 17:11:45 300 billion for evol is probably like someone stealing a few bil from a normal one. Unlike the STK theft, this doesn't look like he got the income source aka bpo's, so in the long run its not that bad a hurt, despite the scale. I love these posts. BoB could be burned to the ground, a couple guys left hiding in NPC stations, and there would be some nitwit still posting here about how NOW they are going to fight, NOW they are mad, boy you better run, here they come now! Are you scared? Are you running yet? They're coming! Seriously! Guess what everybody, BoB is mortal too. They've lost XGH and 9-9, a Titan, and now this, vulnerability to corp theft, just like everyone else. No you don't get it we are fighting OMNIPOTENCE ITSELF.
Berrik Radhok GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.07.18 17:29:00 - [77] Edited by: Berrik Radhok on 18/07/2007 17:29:23 The best part of this is that all of the stuff is in NPC stations, so this guy won't have that much trouble getting it all out. Well, aside from the obvious logistical issues of moving stacks of 100+ POS parts... Originally by: Khavi Vetali Oh don't worry, the goons are just as suicidal with their battleships as they are with their frigates.
Havoc GunStar GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.07.18 17:30:00 - [78] Originally by: Alice Cholmondeley Originally by: CCP Wrangler It's about survival, we act fast now so we get less trouble to deal with later. I might actually be able to take tomorrow off because of it. You do realize you're saying you would rather give in to threats then to deal with it properly, so you can be home early. Nice work. Bitter much? I don't see any evidence in any of the threads about this theft that Goons were preparing to do anything, other than point and laugh. Sig removed. If you would like further details please mail [email protected] with a link to your signature. - Elmo Pug
Hohne Antares Fleet Yards SMASH Alliance	Posted - 2007.07.18 17:30:00 - [79] To say that it was done due to the size, raises an eyebrow. I've never heard of it ever being done unless the char in question specifically petitioned and complained that they had been hacked. I had a corp member steal from us, and then plead that his account was hacked. I got no confirmation from CCP on this, he wasn't ever banned for any investigation, all I can assume is that he was lying (even though the stolen isk was returned). Of course, it's good to know that when it comes to BoB corps, we simply know that someone wasn't. The lesson is every single corp theft must now be pettioned as an exploit / hacked account, even if it is clearly not. Well done on the speed of the investigation though, last time I checked it took alot longer for people who were actually hacked to get an investigation. In the end though, this game ends up being about what you can achieve with and without trust. Without it, you go no where. With it you end up being open to these sorts of actions. The game is clearly slated to advantage large corporations, rather than smaller ones, except on these rare occasions where we're reminded that even though you save alot of headaches being the one big corporation, you risk exactly this.
Setana Manoro Gallente Firefly Inc.	Posted - 2007.07.18 17:30:00 - [80] From what i read so far this corp theft is "unique" so far in the ammount of ISK stolen - some say 100b while some others say 300b. Considering the guy was buddy-buddy with them for 3-4 years, i wouldn't call it a corp theft, but much of a "friendship points spending". He was friends with some in EVOL, they gave him access and he put his plan into action. Honestly, the only thing i find interesting is the ammount of ISK that must have been stolen. Waiting for the thief to post what he stole and how he did it. :) Caldari are the plague of EVE, little whiners that must be cleansed from TQ.
Shihuangdi GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.07.18 17:31:00 - [81] Some of you guys on both sides have to be kidding me. CCP did precisely the right thing here. Quit whining.
Relaria Hossin GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.07.18 17:31:00 - [82] Edited by: Relaria Hossin on 18/07/2007 17:31:50 Edited by: Relaria Hossin on 18/07/2007 17:30:42 Originally by: Alice Cholmondeley Edited by: Alice Cholmondeley on 18/07/2007 17:29:08 Originally by: Stoffer Ninjapirate No one made threats you stupid troll. I personally said that I trusted in CCP investigating it, and even thanked them in the OP. Again, you're a stupid**got. Quote: Edited by: Relaria Hossin on 18/07/2007 16:22:47 Yes I foresee a few thousand upset players voicing their concern on these forums if he was banned for this perfectly legal corp theft. We all know what that means when goons show their ugly head. And try to behave, you sound like a little kid that has learned a new swear word. Quote: Edited by: Relaria Hossin on 18/07/2007 16:22:47 Yes I foresee a few thousand upset players voicing their concern on these forums if he was banned for this perfectly legal corp theft. Quote:** Edited by: Relaria Hossin on 18/07/2007 16:22:47 if Also I wasn't just talking about goons, we aren't the only ones who play eve you know.
Dramaticus GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.07.18 17:31:00 - [83] furthermore, hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahhahahahaaahhahahahahaaha Your signature was inappropriate, email [email protected] to find out why (don't forget to include a link to it) -Sahwoolo
Narciss Sevar Caldari Caldari Provisions	Posted - 2007.07.18 17:31:00 - [84] Going by the other thread, looks like this guy hadn't been seen for over a year, yet still had access to all this. Nice security there.
Frygok Minmatar Mean Anglo-Danes	Posted - 2007.07.18 17:32:00 - [85] Originally by: Havoc GunStar Originally by: Alice Cholmondeley Originally by: CCP Wrangler It's about survival, we act fast now so we get less trouble to deal with later. I might actually be able to take tomorrow off because of it. You do realize you're saying you would rather give in to threats then to deal with it properly, so you can be home early. Nice work. Bitter much? I don't see any evidence in any of the threads about this theft that Goons were preparing to do anything, other than point and laugh. Quoted for absolute truth. CCP learned from past mistakes and now excercise swift investigation and communicate with the community before tinfoil-hattery claims of pro-BoB, goon hackers, you name it, starts florishing. How on earth can switft investigation be a bad thing?
D3athsHead British Clan Killers	Posted - 2007.07.18 17:32:00 - [86] Question: Why are their people on here blaming Goonswarm for this? As far as i have read it was a long standing Evol member that stole from his long time buddys and goons are just having a dam good laugh about as they are allowed to do.
Dungar Loghoth Caldari Black Omega Security Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2007.07.18 17:32:00 - [87] Originally by: Narciss Sevar Going by the other thread, looks like this guy hadn't been seen for over a year, yet still had access to all this. Nice security there. I guess they forgot to adapt their security measures and became victims
Toffles GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.07.18 17:33:00 - [88] Can this thread be more about the theft and less about "omgccp scandalt20threadnaughthax" stuff. Thanks in advance, alice cholomolomonolday.
Stoffer Ninjapirate Amarr GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.07.18 17:33:00 - [89] Originally by: Alice Cholmondeley Edited by: Alice Cholmondeley on 18/07/2007 17:29:08 Originally by: Stoffer Ninjapirate No one made threats you stupid troll. I personally said that I trusted in CCP investigating it, and even thanked them in the OP. Again, you're a stupid**got. Quote:** Edited by: Relaria Hossin on 18/07/2007 16:22:47 Yes I foresee a few thousand upset players voicing their concern on these forums if he was banned for this perfectly legal corp theft. We all know what that means when goons show their ugly head. And try to behave, you sound like a little kid that has learned a new swear word. I expect Relaria was speaking on behalf of the general eve community, he's not an official GS spokesperson.
Alice Cholmondeley Christine.	Posted - 2007.07.18 17:33:00 - [90] Originally by: Cpt Pugwash bitter little Evol alt I couldn't care less about evolution getting robbed, too bad for you i'm not a bob alt. But i do sense your bitterness.
Thalen Draganos Caldari Infinity Aeronautics	Posted - 2007.07.18 17:34:00 - [91] Edited by: Thalen Draganos on 18/07/2007 17:34:01 Is this a historical amount that was stolen? The only limitation to life itself is the imagination of the one living it.
Omorashi Gallente Medical Miners	Posted - 2007.07.18 17:34:00 - [92] Originally by: Alice Cholmondeley We all know what that means when goons show their ugly head. And try to behave, you sound like a little kid that has learned a new swear word. Shush little angel, don't say a word, I'm going to pod you in my Blackbird.
FGxHalsey Battlestars GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.07.18 17:34:00 - [93] Originally by: Cassiuss ... shows to the rest of eve that you, your corp and alliance are tards. I don't think goons would claim anything else... in fact that makes things even more hilarious most times.
Hohne Antares Fleet Yards SMASH Alliance	Posted - 2007.07.18 17:34:00 - [94] Originally by: Cpt Pugwash You would imagine Evol would revoke his access rights immediately and petition ccp thereafter. You really think by the time CCP heard of this there was going to be any more damage done? A couple of points. - Most of this sort of stuff isn't logged to the level where directors/CEO can concretely tell who did it without catching them in the act. - Some things cannot be revoked for 24hrs - eg ships in POS's etc. A player with no roles can still cause alot of havoc. Once you start taking stuff out of the wallet you can now (since revelations finally) tell who's spending the isk. Previously as long as it wasn't a withdrawal you had no idea.
Holy Cheater Red Alliance	Posted - 2007.07.18 17:35:00 - [95] So, where's an evidence, loot lists or something? Where's the proof of that isn't a fake?
Quasar Black Minmatar Rens 911	Posted - 2007.07.18 17:36:00 - [96] Couldn't have happen to a better bunch of people. I hope there's tears and much broken pottery in the Alamo tonight.
Moon Kitten Gallente GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.07.18 17:37:00 - [97] My deepest condolences to all the members of Evolution and Band of Brothers.
Pepperami Art of War Cult of War	Posted - 2007.07.18 17:37:00 - [98] Originally by: Holy Cheater So, where's an evidence, loot lists or something? Where's the proof of that isn't a fake? Pretty good proof. A-WAR might be Recruiting!
Toffles GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.07.18 17:37:00 - [99] Originally by: Holy Cheater So, where's an evidence, loot lists or something? Where's the proof of that isn't a fake? ccp devs stating it happened, and that it was big, not good enough?
Sebastien LeReparteur Minmatar Section XIII Tau Ceti Federation	Posted - 2007.07.18 17:37:00 - [100] How the mighty have fallen... So much anticipation!!! ----------- It is by will alone I set my mind in motion. It is by the juice of sapho that thoughts acquire speed, the lips acquire stains, the stains become a warning. It is by will alone...
PKlavins Caldari Twisted Attitude Executive Outcomes	Posted - 2007.07.18 17:38:00 - [101] Edited by: PKlavins on 18/07/2007 17:38:25 Originally by: Darknesss People are saying this is low, and bad and terrible. I REALLY disagree with corp theft but in this case i dont think anyone can feel sorry for evolution. Its no secret that BoB arent afraid to use any legitimate actions no matter how lame people view them to get ahead. For example when they smartbombed the D2 titan just as it logged, i think this is justice, they played dirty, and now its been done right back at them. BUT they arent the only ones to 'play dirty' as you call it. As I see it, people only hate BoB cause they cant beat them, cause a fair proportion of them are vets of the game and actually know it well enough. Ok, maybe SB'ing a titan to aggro it ain't the nicest of things to do, but its within game mechanics. Which is more than what can be said for certain other alliances...coughredswarmcough... And as for feeling sorry for them...yea actually people CAN feel sorry for them. As you yourself said, they use legitimate actions to achieve their goals. The fact that they do anything it takes shows them as being dedicated, imho. (disclaimer: views are of my own not of my alliance etc. etc. my alliance's standings with BoB dont affect my views etc. etc.) first -eris
Helen STK Scientific M. PIRE	Posted - 2007.07.18 17:38:00 - [102] Originally by: Graalum Edited by: Graalum on 18/07/2007 17:11:45 300 billion for evol is probably like someone stealing a few bil from a normal one. Unlike the STK theft, this doesn't look like he got the income source aka bpo's, so in the long run its not that bad a hurt, despite the scale. Corp thefts suck but to say STK was hurt in the long run is untrue, we have enough infrastructure to rebuild a T1 BPO portofolio within weeks of the theft occuring. I imagine Evol should be in a much more capable place with the income from the alliance pets they have. If you know STK you know we dont make isk off T1 but T2. STK providing Mothership deaths since 2007
Cipher7 OldBastardsPub SMASH Alliance	Posted - 2007.07.18 17:39:00 - [103] Molle post? "This morning at 0300, our hangars were cleaned out by a 4 year old member of the corp...Bring it back or else...Tick Tock"
Omorashi Gallente Medical Miners	Posted - 2007.07.18 17:40:00 - [104] Wanted to buy: Some nice BPO's A couple of COMMAND SHIPS Three DREADNOUGHTS Four CARRIERS Five FREIGHTERS And SIX BATTLESHIPS.
CEO Pyrex DarkStar 1 GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.07.18 17:40:00 - [105] For any other corp this would be terrible (friend or foe) but becuase this is Evolution and inparticular Sirmolles corp i find this most agreeable. Its only a shame that the dude beat the many goon bothans to the honey pot, ah well time for them to move to RKK, i hear they have some pretty cool stuff and loads of stupid alts they arnt tracking
Anariel Andurill Caldari School of Applied Knowledge	Posted - 2007.07.18 17:40:00 - [106] got to say, 300 billion (upward end of what people are saying was taken) in a 'communist' corp with 400 members who give 90-100% assetts to the corp.... thats what? A week? This seems like a loss for sure, a costly breach of trust for sure.... Hardly a killing blow though. Trillions in T2 BPO's, all still intact, their production capability is intact. Only way this could possibly be an issue for them is if it was immediately followed by a massive incursion into their space to take advantage of their gimped logistics.... as it is.... i don't get the impression that RA / Goons etc. are in a position to do this now are they.
rycar Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.07.18 17:42:00 - [107] here is a link to a list of stuff that was stolen: http://www.eve-evol.com/forums/showthread.php?t=24601
fightnkill Dark Blade Incorporated	Posted - 2007.07.18 17:43:00 - [108] I guess BoB members shouldn't have laughed at GS losing 60bill due to Corp theft.
NOObbody Mostly Harmless	Posted - 2007.07.18 17:43:00 - [109] Originally by: rycar here is a link to a list of stuff that was stolen: http://www.eve-evol.com/forums/showthread.php?t=24601 Damn... --- I was sworn to absolute secrecy!
The Anointed Caldari KR0M The Red Skull	Posted - 2007.07.18 17:43:00 - [110] Corp theft in eve is a sad event, regardless of who it happens to and for what reason. At the end of the day, isk can be replaced, but the most painful part of it is that it calls into question the relationship you thought you had with the person that commited the offence. I think it was dianabolic that commented in a thread to say that he would happily loose x amount of isk to find out that someone shouldnt be in the corp, or words to that effect. Thats fine, providing you find this out at an early stage, and they cant get much from it. But it takes a strong leadership to take this on the chin and not start to second guess every new member and every old vet that comes back after absence and wants back in. I have a slightly twisted viewpoint on the whole corp theft thing, as I think a certain amount of freedom should be left for people to infiltrate corps and make a livving from espionage and theft of assets, yet at the same time I feel that people, that one day just decide to steal as much as they can from people they are firends with, only serve to lower my perception of the community as a whole.
Holy Cheater Red Alliance	Posted - 2007.07.18 17:43:00 - [111] Originally by: Omorashi Wanted to buy: Some nice BPO's A couple of COMMAND SHIPS Three DREADNOUGHTS Four CARRIERS Five FREIGHTERS And SIX BATTLESHIPS. You forgot to tell that you need someone to transport all of this stuff from BoB stations lol
Havoc GunStar GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.07.18 17:43:00 - [112] Originally by: PKlavins Ok, maybe SB'ing a titan to aggro it ain't the nicest of things to do, but its within game mechanics. Which is more than what can be said for certain other alliances...coughredswarmcough... Ya'll need to get off that old nag and try riding a real horse for a change. If you think game mechanics are being abused, there's a button in game called 'petition', use it. Sig removed. If you would like further details please mail [email protected] with a link to your signature. - Elmo Pug
Stoffer Ninjapirate Amarr GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.07.18 17:43:00 - [113] Originally by: Anariel Andurill got to say, 300 billion (upward end of what people are saying was taken) in a 'communist' corp with 400 members who give 90-100% assetts to the corp.... thats what? A week? This seems like a loss for sure, a costly breach of trust for sure.... Hardly a killing blow though. Trillions in T2 BPO's, all still intact, their production capability is intact. Only way this could possibly be an issue for them is if it was immediately followed by a massive incursion into their space to take advantage of their gimped logistics.... as it is.... i don't get the impression that RA / Goons etc. are in a position to do this now are they. A communist corp losing pretty much everything they had? Yea, obviously not a massive blow.
Str0be Amarr Viziam	Posted - 2007.07.18 17:44:00 - [114] Give the GM's a break, wasn't so much the fact it was corp theft, it was the hacking accusation that cause it. And tbh they just doing the job they're meant to. It's all sorted and understandable. Str0be Strokes something.
Grimpak Gallente Trinity Nova KIA Alliance	Posted - 2007.07.18 17:44:00 - [115] Originally by: rycar here is a link to a list of stuff that was stolen: http://www.eve-evol.com/forums/showthread.php?t=24601 I declare myself ownd Originally by: fightnkill I guess BoB members shouldn't have laughed at GS losing 60bill due to Corp theft. hey you know what they say... Karma's a *** --- truth about EVE: Quote: "Guns are fine, boost players" Quote:** "Players are fine, boost guns"
titanstory FRENCH NAVY Tau Ceti Federation	Posted - 2007.07.18 17:44:00 - [116] can i have the rest of your stuf evol ? thx a lot
Dramaticus GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.07.18 17:44:00 - [117] hey exactly what phase of the pendulum was this Your signature was inappropriate, email [email protected] to find out why (don't forget to include a link to it) -Sahwoolo
slothe Caldari 0utbreak	Posted - 2007.07.18 17:45:00 - [118] corp theft sucks whoever the corp or alliance stolen from. i think that anyone laughing at bob may well regret doing so as from personal experience i know that bob corps have tenacious spirits and will not rest until their enemies are destroyed.
Kieranda Weyland-Yutani Future Technologies Inc.	Posted - 2007.07.18 17:45:00 - [119] all the pointless goon rabble rabble aside, has flatliner said yet what his motivations were for this theft?
Relaria Hossin GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.07.18 17:46:00 - [120] Originally by: rycar here is a link to a list of stuff that was stolen: http://www.eve-evol.com/forums/showthread.php?t=24601 I knew what it was before I even highlighted but I clicked and listened anyway.
Omorashi Gallente Medical Miners	Posted - 2007.07.18 17:46:00 - [121] YOU CAN GO TO SPACEHELL Where ever spacehell is, YOU GO TO IT. Originally by: rycar here is a link to a list of stuff that was stolen: http://www.eve-evol.com/forums/showthread.php?t=24601
Deva Blackfire Citadel of dark arts	Posted - 2007.07.18 17:46:00 - [122] Originally by: slothe corp theft sucks whoever the corp or alliance stolen from. i think that anyone laughing at bob may well regret doing so as from personal experience i know that bob corps have tenacious spirits and will not rest until their enemies are destroyed. Should they start trembling now? Or sign up for other MMO already?
Toffles GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.07.18 17:47:00 - [123] Originally by: Dramaticus hey exactly what phase of the pendulum was this We're up to phase 6 now.
FGxHalsey Battlestars GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.07.18 17:47:00 - [124] Originally by: rycar here is a link to a list of stuff that was stolen: http://www.eve-evol.com/forums/showthread.php?t=24601 Very interesting stuff indeed.
Stoffer Ninjapirate Amarr GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.07.18 17:47:00 - [125] Originally by: slothe corp theft sucks whoever the corp or alliance stolen from. i think that anyone laughing at bob may well regret doing so as from personal experience i know that bob corps have tenacious spirits and will not rest until their enemies are destroyed. BOB have been doing nasty cloak and dagger stuff for years, they had this comming.
Orree Gallente Shiva Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2007.07.18 17:48:00 - [126] Originally by: Kaldaine Originally by: Graalum Edited by: Graalum on 18/07/2007 17:09:32 quoted instead of edited Alas, alack, if only invention wasnt in game and there were still 10/10s to make billions of isk a day. I guess Orange Species needs to find some more trade routes. A very good point. While I have no doubt that Evolution can soldier on just on the strength of the dedication of its pilots and leadership, the circumstances by which perhaps a lot of what was taken was accumulated have changed. It seems probable it will be harder to recoup than it was amass. Hard to say though... Corp thievery sucks in my view. I'm no friend of BoB, but it happening to them doesn't magically change my view on the subject. This wasn't any infiltration. This was someone just changing heart one day, as near as I can tell. "How much easier it is to be critical than to be correct." ---Benjamin Disraeli
Torquemanda Corteaz Gallente Infinite Improbability Inc Mostly Harmless	Posted - 2007.07.18 17:49:00 - [127] so who is going to tell us what was stolen first? the theif or the victim?
NTRabbit Caldari Guiding Hand Social Club	Posted - 2007.07.18 17:50:00 - [128] Corp theft is despicable. It's just plain wrong! ------
Relaria Hossin GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.07.18 17:50:00 - [129] Originally by: Orree Originally by: Kaldaine Originally by: Graalum Edited by: Graalum on 18/07/2007 17:09:32 quoted instead of edited Alas, alack, if only invention wasnt in game and there were still 10/10s to make billions of isk a day. I guess Orange Species needs to find some more trade routes. A very good point. While I have no doubt that Evolution can soldier on just on the strength of the dedication of its pilots and leadership, the circumstances by which perhaps a lot of what was taken was accumulated have changed. It seems probable it will be harder to recoup than it was amass. Hard to say though... Corp thievery sucks in my view. I'm no friend of BoB, but it happening to them doesn't magically change my view on the subject. This wasn't any infiltration. This was someone just changing heart one day, as near as I can tell. Are you crazy. Things like this being possible in EVE is why I play it. This is the most epic MMOG on all fronts and I love it.
Hardin Amarr Imperial Dreams Curatores Veritatis Alliance	Posted - 2007.07.18 17:50:00 - [130] Originally by: FGxHalsey Originally by: rycar here is a link to a list of stuff that was stolen: http://www.eve-evol.com/forums/showthread.php?t=24601 Very interesting stuff indeed. Indeed so interesting I looked twice dammit! ------------------------------ CVA - Kicking Arse For The Empire - http://eve-files.com/dl/83607
Callente Riveara Gallente Raddick Explorations Executive Outcomes	Posted - 2007.07.18 17:50:00 - [131] One of you Goonswarmians, please enlighten me on whats going on in 9-9? I see this thing pop up every day, and I have no CLUE whats happening down there. Being that I cant do much PvP right now, I cant get down there and check it for myself..
Hurad Takor Minmatar Stellar Convertors	Posted - 2007.07.18 17:51:00 - [132] Originally by: CCP Wrangler Originally by: Alice Cholmondeley It's amazing CCP acts so quickly with information under the threat of Goon spamming and abuse. Nice work showing how easy blackmail is. You don't see so many dev posts, if any at all, with other cases. It's about survival, we act fast now so we get less trouble to deal with later. I might actually be able to take tomorrow off because of it. you act fast? pls Wrangler why you dont act like this on all the other "corp theft issues"? why the corp get back their issues? other corp with same problem didnt why do you handle so much "special" on this issue? i think this question interesst very much corps with same issue in the past where you doesnt helped...
Avon Caldari Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.07.18 17:51:00 - [133] Originally by: NTRabbit Corp theft is despicable. It's just plain wrong! The Battleships is not and should not be a solo pwnmobile - Oveur
Omorashi Gallente Medical Miners	Posted - 2007.07.18 17:53:00 - [134] Originally by: Holy Cheater Originally by: Omorashi Wanted to buy: Some nice BPO's A couple of COMMAND SHIPS Three DREADNOUGHTS Four CARRIERS Five FREIGHTERS And SIX BATTLESHIPS. You forgot to tell that you need someone to transport all of this stuff from BoB stations lol I figure it won't be under BoB control for long.
Entschlossen Seraphin Technologies Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2007.07.18 17:53:00 - [135] How lame can someone be, to steal from friends he fought 3-4 years with. I can't understand that. But what i really like is the information Politic of CCP in this case. In time and a clear short statement what they have done and why. Perhaps these tinfoil threads / actions from Goons had really done a positive improvement in this direction?
Toffles GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.07.18 17:54:00 - [136] Originally by: Callente Riveara One of you Goonswarmians, please enlighten me on whats going on in 9-9? I see this thing pop up every day, and I have no CLUE whats happening down there. Being that I cant do much PvP right now, I cant get down there and check it for myself.. We've had sov for a week but bob still has all their towers up. Most of the action has shifted to d2ez in omist.
Sebastien LeReparteur Minmatar Section XIII Tau Ceti Federation	Posted - 2007.07.18 17:54:00 - [137] Reprocess it all!!! ----------- It is by will alone I set my mind in motion. It is by the juice of sapho that thoughts acquire speed, the lips acquire stains, the stains become a warning. It is by will alone...
Isonkon Serikain Gallente 0utbreak	Posted - 2007.07.18 17:54:00 - [138] I know it's a game, but i find this particularly despicable. This money represents hundreds and hundreds of man-hours of RL time spent. The RL monetary value of this is pretty staggering. It takes a pretty cold hearted man to do this. Anyways, I know of one guy who won't be attending the BoB BBQ.
Aceoil Murder-Death-Kill Triumvirate.	Posted - 2007.07.18 17:55:00 - [139] You had better have a good story to tell. Write the story up all nice, put in proper formatting. And submit to MMORPG sites, digg, fark, slashdot, CNN. You can paint yourself to look like a badass. Right now the the thief is working out a deal to sell the lewt back to BoB. Instead, he is probably going to walk away with another 100b in ISK. Cause he will refuse to give it back. Thereby severly damaging BoB's ability to fight. My prediction: - Red Alliance will push harder into BoB space, using T1 cruisers and frigs to destroy as many ships as possible. - BoB will have trouble re-stocking supplies and internal arguing will start to tear the Alliance apart - More people will steal from the alliances and corps as they leave. Crippling BoB more. - BoB will crumble to 25% of its former membership, make a new alliance, with a new name. And then live out of NPC stations running gank squads to mess with the people who moved into their old space. - The south will look like the north does now. Who is MC going to work for now?
Deva Blackfire Citadel of dark arts	Posted - 2007.07.18 17:55:00 - [140] Originally by: Entschlossen How lame can someone be, to steal from friends he fought 3-4 years with. I can't understand that. Its only a game. You forgot that?
Havoc GunStar GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.07.18 17:55:00 - [141] Originally by: Callente Riveara One of you Goonswarmians, please enlighten me on whats going on in 9-9? I see this thing pop up every day, and I have no CLUE whats happening down there. Being that I cant do much PvP right now, I cant get down there and check it for myself.. Show info on the station. Ownership speaks for itself. Sig removed. If you would like further details please mail [email protected] with a link to your signature. - Elmo Pug
Kozak Caldari The Collective Against ALL Authorities	Posted - 2007.07.18 17:55:00 - [142] Corp theft sucks, I think it's one of the worst things in EVE, but I do put corp theft in the same area as corp spys. Like offlining all posses at an ASCN station to let it fall to BOB, and aggressing a logging out titan to kill it with a corp spy. Too bad this kinda stuff happens.
Drgnn CyberDyne Industries Te-Ka	Posted - 2007.07.18 17:55:00 - [143] Screenshots!
Erik Amirault Gallente GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.07.18 17:56:00 - [144] Originally by: Isonkon Serikain I know it's a game, but i find this particularly despicable. This money represents hundreds and hundreds of man-hours of RL time spent. The RL monetary value of this is pretty staggering. It takes a pretty cold hearted man to do this. Anyways, I know of one guy who won't be attending the BoB BBQ. Would you feel bad about decimating an enemy fleet and costing them 100 billion ISK? Why not, because it's part of the game? Same thing applies here.
Relaria Hossin GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.07.18 17:56:00 - [145] Originally by: Entschlossen Perhaps these tinfoil threads / actions from Goons had really done a positive improvement in this direction? TURN IN YOUR GUN AND BADGE YOU CAN'T TAKE OUR BADGE WE GET RESULTS BUT YOU DO THINGS THE WRONG WAY AND WITH MASSIVE COLLATERAL DAMAGE BUT WE GET RESULTS DAMNIT
Keitaro Baka Babylon Scientific and Industrial Enterprises Babylon Project	Posted - 2007.07.18 17:56:00 - [146] corp theft makes keit a sad panda amazing tho.. weird.. All the stuff above does not necessarily reflect my corp, my alliance or even me.. Drone guide..
Graalum Foundation R0ADKILL	Posted - 2007.07.18 17:57:00 - [147] Originally by: Helen Originally by: Graalum Edited by: Graalum on 18/07/2007 17:11:45 300 billion for evol is probably like someone stealing a few bil from a normal one. Unlike the STK theft, this doesn't look like he got the income source aka bpo's, so in the long run its not that bad a hurt, despite the scale. Corp thefts suck but to say STK was hurt in the long run is untrue, we have enough infrastructure to rebuild a T1 BPO portofolio within weeks of the theft occuring. I imagine Evol should be in a much more capable place with the income from the alliance pets they have. If you know STK you know we dont make isk off T1 but T2. I thought you lost a couple t2 as well, if not i stand corrected.
Valrandir Gallente Slacker Industries Exuro Mortis	Posted - 2007.07.18 17:57:00 - [148] -------------------------------- This has surpassed the Yarrdware specification and has been dubbed Uberware
Kaldaine GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.07.18 17:57:00 - [149] Originally by: fightnkill I guess BoB members shouldn't have laughed at GS losing 60bill due to Corp theft. People keep saying this, when did we lose 60 bil?
NOObbody Mostly Harmless	Posted - 2007.07.18 17:58:00 - [150] Originally by: Isonkon Serikain I know it's a game, but i find this particularly despicable. This money represents hundreds and hundreds of man-hours of RL time spent. The RL monetary value of this is pretty staggering. It takes a pretty cold hearted man to do this. Building an Erebus was a hard piece of work too. What goes around... --- I was sworn to absolute secrecy!
Callente Riveara Gallente Raddick Explorations Executive Outcomes	Posted - 2007.07.18 17:58:00 - [151] Originally by: Toffles Originally by: Callente Riveara One of you Goonswarmians, please enlighten me on whats going on in 9-9? I see this thing pop up every day, and I have no CLUE whats happening down there. Being that I cant do much PvP right now, I cant get down there and check it for myself.. We've had sov for a week but bob still has all their towers up. Most of the action has shifted to d2ez in omist. Thanks :-) Maybe someday soon I can come down there and fight the good fight, who knows..
maarud Coreli Corporation Corelum Syndicate	Posted - 2007.07.18 17:58:00 - [152] Originally by: Kaldaine Originally by: fightnkill I guess BoB members shouldn't have laughed at GS losing 60bill due to Corp theft. People keep saying this, when did we lose 60 bil? I'm guessing it's when Remidial (sp) stole from you Maarud. Proudly a Ex-BYDI member
Torshin Prophets Of a Damned Universe	Posted - 2007.07.18 17:59:00 - [153] Originally by: Erik Amirault Originally by: Isonkon Serikain I know it's a game, but i find this particularly despicable. This money represents hundreds and hundreds of man-hours of RL time spent. The RL monetary value of this is pretty staggering. It takes a pretty cold hearted man to do this. Anyways, I know of one guy who won't be attending the BoB BBQ. Would you feel bad about decimating an enemy fleet and costing them 100 billion ISK? Why not, because it's part of the game? Same thing applies here. its a little bit different. if i had flown with them for a few years and then dropped gang on them to give shrike a cyno/warp in DD ya that would be bad. and BTW go buy another char on E-BAY ------------------------------------------- Backdoor Bandit - Unofficial leader of the new 'Post with your main or STFU' campaign. I'm Shinra and I'm the champion of Eve.
Raem Civrie Sons of Enelaise Enelaise	Posted - 2007.07.18 17:59:00 - [154] Originally by: Entschlossen How lame can someone be, to steal from friends he fought 3-4 years with. I can't understand that. I find it helpful not to make judgments based on assumptions about motives. ---- All you do is bark, you never meow
Mihailo Great GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.07.18 17:59:00 - [155] Originally by: fightnkill I guess BoB members shouldn't have laughed at GS losing 60bill due to Corp theft. 25 billion, and Remedial came back to us, look up his character info.
Dramaticus GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.07.18 18:01:00 - [156] Originally by: maarud Originally by: Kaldaine Originally by: fightnkill I guess BoB members shouldn't have laughed at GS losing 60bill due to Corp theft. People keep saying this, when did we lose 60 bil? I'm guessing it's when Remidial (sp) stole from you Good thing he didnt steal 60b then Your signature was inappropriate, email [email protected] to find out why (don't forget to include a link to it) -Sahwoolo
Moon Kitten Gallente GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.07.18 18:01:00 - [157] Originally by: Isonkon Serikain I know it's a game, but i find this particularly despicable. This money represents hundreds and hundreds of man-hours of RL time spent. The RL monetary value of this is pretty staggering. It takes a pretty cold hearted man to do this. As opposed to the millions of man hours that are blown up in the form of internet space ships?
Stoffer Ninjapirate Amarr GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.07.18 18:01:00 - [158] Originally by: Entschlossen How lame can someone be, to steal from friends he fought 3-4 years with. I can't understand that. But what i really like is the information Politic of CCP in this case. In time and a clear short statement what they have done and why. Perhaps these tinfoil threads / actions from Goons had really done a positive improvement in this direction? Think you might be right. This issue was handled wonderfully, and again proved that CCP are working hard at this game. Good stuff.
Laboratus Gallente BGG League of Abnormal Gentlemen	Posted - 2007.07.18 18:02:00 - [159] I hate to say this, but. Corp thefts always suck, since they are such a breach of trust. Even if they happen to ones enemies. ___ P.S. Post with your main. Mind control and tin hats
Orree Gallente Shiva Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2007.07.18 18:02:00 - [160] Originally by: Alice Cholmondeley Originally by: CCP Wrangler It's about survival, we act fast now so we get less trouble to deal with later. I might actually be able to take tomorrow off because of it. You do realize you're saying you would rather give in to threats then to deal with it properly, so you can be home early. Nice work. It was dealt with properly. I have seen similar instances during my gaming time within EVE where CCP acted in exactly the same manner regarding instances FAR SMALLER in scale. If I petitioned CCP that I felt my (or anyone elses account had been hacked), odds are better then good that account would be immediately banned pending an investigation. That they chose to communicate their actions swiftly is a good thing and merely the product of what has gone on in this game dating back to the T20 scandal. CCP employees and the player community are all to blame for the current atmosphere. Personally, I applaud CCP for doing their best to do the right thing. Your mileage may vary, of course. "How much easier it is to be critical than to be correct." ---Benjamin Disraeli
Kaldaine GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.07.18 18:03:00 - [161] Edited by: Kaldaine on 18/07/2007 18:04:28 Edited by: Kaldaine on 18/07/2007 18:03:07 Originally by: maarud Originally by: Kaldaine Originally by: fightnkill I guess BoB members shouldn't have laughed at GS losing 60bill due to Corp theft. People keep saying this, when did we lose 60 bil? I'm guessing it's when Remidial (sp) stole from you Remedial, like remedial english or remedial math. maarud
Stoffer Ninjapirate Amarr GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.07.18 18:03:00 - [162] Originally by: maarud Originally by: Kaldaine Originally by: fightnkill I guess BoB members shouldn't have laughed at GS losing 60bill due to Corp theft. People keep saying this, when did we lose 60 bil? I'm guessing it's when Remidial (sp) stole from you Oh do you mean 25 billion?
Richard Aiel Caldari MicroFunks	Posted - 2007.07.18 18:05:00 - [163] I think its hilarious that they moved this thread to a place where the thief cant even talk about it lol >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yay! I can come up with good ideas too! http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=548436&page=2
Pepperami Art of War Cult of War	Posted - 2007.07.18 18:05:00 - [164] Originally by: Kaldaine Originally by: maarud I'm guessing it's when Remidial (sp) stole from you Remedial, like remedial english. maarud lol A-WAR might be Recruiting!
Fuglife Celestial Apocalypse Insurgency	Posted - 2007.07.18 18:06:00 - [165] opp's wrong emotion!
Stoffer Ninjapirate Amarr GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.07.18 18:09:00 - [166] Originally by: Alice Cholmondeley Originally by: Orree Originally by: Alice Cholmondeley Originally by: CCP Wrangler It's about survival, we act fast now so we get less trouble to deal with later. I might actually be able to take tomorrow off because of it. You do realize you're saying you would rather give in to threats then to deal with it properly, so you can be home early. Nice work. It was dealt with properly. I have seen similar instances during my gaming time within EVE where CCP acted in exactly the same manner regarding instances FAR SMALLER in scale. If I petitioned CCP that I felt my (or anyone elses account had been hacked), odds are better then good that account would be immediately banned pending an investigation. That they chose to communicate their actions swiftly is a good thing and merely the product of what has gone on in this game dating back to the T20 scandal. CCP employees and the player community are all to blame for the current atmosphere. Personally, I applaud CCP for doing their best to do the right thing. Your mileage may vary, of course. I'm not really arguing that they didn't do the right thing. At the moment they only showed they will do the right thing when you spam, abuse and threaten CCP in general. I do not think it's behaviour that should be encouraged, which is what they are doing. The investigation was started before anyone said anything you fool.
Shihuangdi GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.07.18 18:10:00 - [167] Originally by: Alice Cholmondeley I'm not really arguing that they didn't do the right thing. At the moment they only showed they will do the right thing when you spam, abuse and threaten CCP in general. I do not think it's behaviour that should be encouraged, which is what they are doing. What?
Relaria Hossin GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.07.18 18:10:00 - [168] Originally by: Stoffer Ninjapirate The investigation was started before anyone said anything you fool. Silly Stoffer using facts on EVE-O.
kuota GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.07.18 18:11:00 - [169] http://i9.tinypic.com/62zvtd3.jpg Please dont post images. -Wachtmeister
Morning Maniac Eve University Ivy League	Posted - 2007.07.18 18:11:00 - [170] Always sorry to hear about corp theft, no matter how much or how little it is and who is stolen from. On another note, EVE University always accepts donations in ships, modules or ISK :) It's tax deductable as well since we're a charity! MM http://eve-ivy.com EVE University commercial
Araston vonBek Caldari Von Bek Incorporated	Posted - 2007.07.18 18:11:00 - [171] I'm never one to support corp theft, nevertheless... Roffle!!! Any time BoB get shafted/beaten is an event to cheer up my day with smiley sunshiney kittens and fluffy hampsters and joyous rainbow beams of bliss. In light of this, I wonder if the rest of BoB are instigating new security procedures to prevent future thefts? BoB... Contact me via evemail. Give my corp access to your space and stations, and I'll gladly hold in storage any assets which you don't want accessible to future blaggards and n'er-do-wells. We can trade over whenever you need something. I'll take good care of it all. Honest...
Incantare Caldari Darkness Inc.	Posted - 2007.07.18 18:11:00 - [172] I didn't believe the guy when he first posted but wow. Also posting in a BoB thread etc.
Alice Cholmondeley Christine.	Posted - 2007.07.18 18:12:00 - [173] Originally by: Stoffer Ninjapirate I'm not really arguing that they didn't do the right thing. At the moment they only showed they will do the right thing when you spam, abuse and threaten CCP in general. I do not think it's behaviour that should be encouraged, which is what they are doing. The investigation was started before anyone said anything you fool. I'm not just pointing at the thread we talked about earlier, but the reaction of ccp on events as a whole. If you keep being a immature brat that only knows how to throw petty insults around, this will be the last time i will respond to you.
TrevorReznik Alt Merch Industrial We Are Nice Guys	Posted - 2007.07.18 18:12:00 - [174] Originally by: Incantare I didn't believe the guy when he first posted but wow. Also posting in a BoB thread etc. Odd that BoB isn't though.
Richard Aiel Caldari MicroFunks	Posted - 2007.07.18 18:12:00 - [175] Originally by: Alice Cholmondeley Originally by: Orree Originally by: Alice Cholmondeley Originally by: CCP Wrangler It's about survival, we act fast now so we get less trouble to deal with later. I might actually be able to take tomorrow off because of it. You do realize you're saying you would rather give in to threats then to deal with it properly, so you can be home early. Nice work. It was dealt with properly. I have seen similar instances during my gaming time within EVE where CCP acted in exactly the same manner regarding instances FAR SMALLER in scale. If I petitioned CCP that I felt my (or anyone elses account had been hacked), odds are better then good that account would be immediately banned pending an investigation. That they chose to communicate their actions swiftly is a good thing and merely the product of what has gone on in this game dating back to the T20 scandal. CCP employees and the player community are all to blame for the current atmosphere. Personally, I applaud CCP for doing their best to do the right thing. Your mileage may vary, of course. I'm not really arguing that they didn't do the right thing. At the moment they only showed they will do the right thing when you spam, abuse and threaten CCP in general. I do not think it's behaviour that should be encouraged, which is what they are doing. Yeah but thats what they HAVE been doing for a WHILE now... kinda like saying that the "council" thing was just a spur of the moment idea, not them bending to the pressure of bad PR... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yay! I can come up with good ideas too! http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=548436&page=2
Entschlossen Seraphin Technologies Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2007.07.18 18:13:00 - [176] Originally by: Deva Blackfire Originally by: Entschlossen How lame can someone be, to steal from friends he fought 3-4 years with. I can't understand that. Its only a game. You forgot that? No mate its more, at least for me its a kind of hobby, where i meet with friends, chat and have fun together. But i also dont see what this has to do with beeing a game or not, someone you thought is a friend backstabbed you. If he does it in Eve or when you play poker or steals it directly from you makes now difference for me, its simply lame.
TrevorReznik Alt Merch Industrial We Are Nice Guys	Posted - 2007.07.18 18:13:00 - [177] Originally by: Alice Cholmondeley Originally by: Stoffer Ninjapirate I'm not really arguing that they didn't do the right thing. At the moment they only showed they will do the right thing when you spam, abuse and threaten CCP in general. I do not think it's behaviour that should be encouraged, which is what they are doing. The investigation was started before anyone said anything you fool. I'm not just pointing at the thread we talked about earlier, but the reaction of ccp on events as a whole. If you keep being a immature brat that only knows how to throw petty insults around, this will be the last time i will respond to you. You forgot to capitalize an I.
Kieranda Weyland-Yutani Future Technologies Inc.	Posted - 2007.07.18 18:13:00 - [178] Originally by: maarud Originally by: Kaldaine Originally by: fightnkill I guess BoB members shouldn't have laughed at GS losing 60bill due to Corp theft. People keep saying this, when did we lose 60 bil? I'm guessing it's when Remidial (sp) stole from you BoB had no other choice but to one-up Goons with an even higher corp theft than theirs, omnipotence and all
Splagada Minmatar Tides of Silence Hydra Alliance	Posted - 2007.07.18 18:13:00 - [179] CCP should really work into the corp security as much as i laugh for the fact that BoB bragged about their guy in ASCN unanchoring all pos'es in EDF home system and it's payback, the tools to protect group assets are so.... bugged :/ ------
Itzena Amarr GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.07.18 18:14:00 - [180] Originally by: Alice Cholmondeley If you keep being a immature brat that only knows how to throw petty insults around, this will be the last time i will respond to you. Is that a promise? -- Nothing will improve the way things currently are.
Victor Valka Caldari Archon Industries	Posted - 2007.07.18 18:14:00 - [181] Story. Now. Or GTFO.
Alice Cholmondeley Christine.	Posted - 2007.07.18 18:14:00 - [182] Originally by: TrevorReznik Alt You forgot to capitalize an I. Thanks for pointing that out, i know how hard it is for goon pets to be recognized, hope my response to you will help you along.
Kaldaine GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.07.18 18:15:00 - [183] Originally by: Alice Cholmondeley Originally by: Stoffer Ninjapirate I'm not really arguing that they didn't do the right thing. At the moment they only showed they will do the right thing when you spam, abuse and threaten CCP in general. I do not think it's behaviour that should be encouraged, which is what they are doing. The investigation was started before anyone said anything you fool. If you keep being a immature brat that only knows how to throw petty insults around, this will be the last time i will respond to you. calm down
Alice Cholmondeley Christine.	Posted - 2007.07.18 18:15:00 - [184] Originally by: Itzena Originally by: Alice Cholmondeley If you keep being a immature brat that only knows how to throw petty insults around, this will be the last time i will respond to you. Is that a promise? No it isn't, but thanks for showing you care. i will open a thread in YCS just for you.
Erik Amirault Gallente GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.07.18 18:16:00 - [185] Originally by: Alice Cholmondeley Originally by: TrevorReznik Alt You forgot to capitalize an I. Thanks for pointing that out, i know how hard it is for goon pets to be recognized, hope my response to you will help you along. This sentence is grammatically incorrect.
Stoffer Ninjapirate Amarr GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.07.18 18:16:00 - [186] Originally by: Alice Cholmondeley Originally by: Stoffer Ninjapirate I'm not really arguing that they didn't do the right thing. At the moment they only showed they will do the right thing when you spam, abuse and threaten CCP in general. I do not think it's behaviour that should be encouraged, which is what they are doing. The investigation was started before anyone said anything you fool. I'm not just pointing at the thread we talked about earlier, but the reaction of ccp on events as a whole. If you keep being a immature brat that only knows how to throw petty insults around, this will be the last time i will respond to you. Well then this will be the last time I respond to you! GOOD DAY SIR
Snowden Vel GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.07.18 18:16:00 - [187] Alice Cholmondeley has finished training the skill Rabid Illogic V. You might be a little paranoid if you read a threat into everything we post. Your signature has been removed due to a lack of EVE-related content. Email [email protected] if you have any questions. Thanks, Hango
TrevorReznik Alt Merch Industrial We Are Nice Guys	Posted - 2007.07.18 18:16:00 - [188] Originally by: Alice Cholmondeley Originally by: TrevorReznik Alt You forgot to capitalize an I. Thanks for pointing that out, i know how hard it is for goon pets to be recognized, hope my response to you will help you along. Thanks good buddy.
Marko Zhang Chargin Mah Lazors	Posted - 2007.07.18 18:17:00 - [189] Originally by: TrevorReznik Alt Originally by: Incantare Also posting in a BoB thread etc. Odd that BoB isn't though. Haven't you heard? They've all been at a BBQ for the past three weeks.
Alice Cholmondeley Christine.	Posted - 2007.07.18 18:18:00 - [190] Originally by: Erik Amirault Originally by: Alice Cholmondeley Originally by: TrevorReznik Alt You forgot to capitalize an I. Thanks for pointing that out, i know how hard it is for goon pets to be recognized, hope my response to you will help you along. This sentence is grammatically incorrect. It's good to see goons so worried
Orree Gallente Shiva Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2007.07.18 18:18:00 - [191] Originally by: Relaria Hossin Originally by: Orree Originally by: Kaldaine Originally by: Graalum Edited by: Graalum on 18/07/2007 17:09:32 quoted instead of edited Alas, alack, if only invention wasnt in game and there were still 10/10s to make billions of isk a day. I guess Orange Species needs to find some more trade routes. A very good point. While I have no doubt that Evolution can soldier on just on the strength of the dedication of its pilots and leadership, the circumstances by which perhaps a lot of what was taken was accumulated have changed. It seems probable it will be harder to recoup than it was amass. Hard to say though... Corp thievery sucks in my view. I'm no friend of BoB, but it happening to them doesn't magically change my view on the subject. This wasn't any infiltration. This was someone just changing heart one day, as near as I can tell. Are you crazy. Things like this being possible in EVE is why I play it. This is the most epic MMOG on all fronts and I love it. Clearly we play the game for different reasons. That's fine. Understandable. Perfectly acceptable. If having a set of principles and sticking to them makes me crazy, then so be it. "How much easier it is to be critical than to be correct." ---Benjamin Disraeli
Callente Riveara Gallente Raddick Explorations Executive Outcomes	Posted - 2007.07.18 18:18:00 - [192] Man I just ate a Big Mac and large fries, and Im still hungry. Does this mean Im fat?
Beyond Horizon Black Omega Security	Posted - 2007.07.18 18:19:00 - [193] I find this lack of BoB posts disturbing :D - BH
Ghost Reaper Reikoku Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.07.18 18:19:00 - [194] What What? Gr Latest Vid: Blood Shock
Flow Befort GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.07.18 18:21:00 - [195] Originally by: Callente Riveara Man I just ate a Big Mac and large fries, and Im still hungry. Does this mean Im fat? burger king is gross go to in&outout imo if you dont live near an in&out then you should move so you can have some in&out
Richard Aiel Caldari MicroFunks	Posted - 2007.07.18 18:22:00 - [196] Edited by: Richard Aiel on 18/07/2007 18:23:03 Originally by: Marko Zhang Originally by: TrevorReznik Alt Originally by: Incantare Also posting in a BoB thread etc. Odd that BoB isn't though. Haven't you heard? They've all been at a BBQ for the past three weeks. Maybe theyve reinstated the EVE-O talk ban >>I hope<< >>I hope<< >>I hope<< >>I hope<< >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yay! I can come up with good ideas too! http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=548436&page=2
Callente Riveara Gallente Raddick Explorations Executive Outcomes	Posted - 2007.07.18 18:23:00 - [197] Originally by: Flow Befort Originally by: Callente Riveara Man I just ate a Big Mac and large fries, and Im still hungry. Does this mean Im fat? burger king is gross go to in&outout imo if you dont live near an in&out then you should move so you can have some in&out Big Mac is McDonalds, Whopper is burger king.
Flow Befort GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.07.18 18:24:00 - [198] Originally by: Callente Riveara Originally by: Flow Befort Originally by: Callente Riveara Man I just ate a Big Mac and large fries, and Im still hungry. Does this mean Im fat? burger king is gross go to in&outout imo if you dont live near an in&out then you should move so you can have some in&out Big Mac is McDonalds, Whopper is burger king. even worse
Frances Ducoir VEB Kombinat Robotron	Posted - 2007.07.18 18:24:00 - [199] Edited by: Frances Ducoir on 18/07/2007 18:28:18 Edited by: Frances Ducoir on 18/07/2007 18:26:40 wtb: insight in the inbox of flatliners eve mailbox how many hatemails will he get? Originally by: Beyond Horizon I find this lack of BoB posts disturbing :D true... but we got lots of lovely alice Lolmondelol from christine corp posts. consider them as bob posts :D
5n4keyes Sacred Templars DeStInY.	Posted - 2007.07.18 18:25:00 - [200] Last month, titan loss, This month, billions stolen. Whoevers swinging that pendulum, keep swinging, cos damn it, your smashing yourself in the nuts far better than i ever could! Awww well... Cant wait for next month
Callente Riveara Gallente Raddick Explorations Executive Outcomes	Posted - 2007.07.18 18:25:00 - [201] Originally by: Flow Befort Originally by: Callente Riveara Originally by: Flow Befort Originally by: Callente Riveara Man I just ate a Big Mac and large fries, and Im still hungry. Does this mean Im fat? burger king is gross go to in&outout imo if you dont live near an in&out then you should move so you can have some in&out Big Mac is McDonalds, Whopper is burger king. even worse Yes, I know But it was delicious.
Antonia Frak	Posted - 2007.07.18 18:27:00 - [202] Despite I think thiefers are bad, they fit it's "role" in the game so...well, like real world you know. The question is...has the thief finished stolen all thing when he was banned from game or he could continue robering if he was not banned at that time? cause if he was banned while in the middle of the robbery then CCP just helped BoB...again. Thanks
Jenessa D00M. Triumvirate.	Posted - 2007.07.18 18:27:00 - [203] I just cannot feel in the slightest bit sorry for Evol, they have shown in the past that they have no scruples about any "immoral" game mechanics (i.e getting spys to offline POS towers etc). It's very refreshing to see that what goes around HAS come around for them. Only thing I'm sorry for is that Flatliner couldn't take them for everything they had, but then again you can't have everything
Alice Cholmondeley Christine.	Posted - 2007.07.18 18:28:00 - [204] Originally by: Frances Ducoir Edited by: Frances Ducoir on 18/07/2007 18:26:40 wtb: insight in the inbox of flatliners eve mailbox how many hatemails will he get? Originally by: Beyond Horizon I find this lack of BoB posts disturbing :D true... but we got lots of lovely alice mondelol from christine corp posts. consider them as bob posts :D I'll make sure to read you as a goon troll alt.
Pnuka Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.07.18 18:29:00 - [205]
Dramaticus GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.07.18 18:29:00 - [206] Originally by: Alice Cholmondeley Originally by: Frances Ducoir Edited by: Frances Ducoir on 18/07/2007 18:26:40 wtb: insight in the inbox of flatliners eve mailbox how many hatemails will he get? Originally by: Beyond Horizon I find this lack of BoB posts disturbing :D true... but we got lots of lovely alice mondelol from christine corp posts. consider them as bob posts :D I'll make sure to read you as a goon troll alt. ICE BURN Your signature was inappropriate, email [email protected] to find out why (don't forget to include a link to it) -Sahwoolo
Relaria Hossin GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.07.18 18:29:00 - [207] Originally by: Orree Clearly we play the game for different reasons. That's fine. Understandable. Perfectly acceptable. If having a set of principles and sticking to them makes me crazy, then so be it. I'm not even talking about anyone's principles, I'm talking about how such a broad range of actions and consequences are available to us on such a vast scale. In this game it is possible to do SO much, both good and bad. The diversity of the interactions capable in EVE makes it strikingly close to real life, except in the end it is still just a game, which is what makes playing it so great.
Holy Cheater Red Alliance	Posted - 2007.07.18 18:29:00 - [208] Originally by: Toffles Originally by: Holy Cheater So, where's an evidence, loot lists or something? Where's the proof of that isn't a fake? ccp devs stating it happened, and that it was big, not good enough? Well, investigation would took place if a char acquire a lot of stuff, it doesn't depend on was it real theft or not.. But can you be sure this drama wasn't played off intentionally to raise a sympathy to BoB cause they were defiantly pwned. Personally, I'm shocked, I can't believe a 4-year member could betray his corp. I'm agreed with those who don't approve a corp theft (in general), cause no corp is secure from this terrible thing. Well, it's looks a some kind of punishment on BoB, because they used to use the same methods. But it doesn't justify a thief. But I can't say I'm sad cause BoB lost some of their toys. After all, they are my enemies.
Kaldaine GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.07.18 18:30:00 - [209] Originally by: Alice Cholmondeley Originally by: Frances Ducoir Edited by: Frances Ducoir on 18/07/2007 18:26:40 wtb: insight in the inbox of flatliners eve mailbox how many hatemails will he get? Originally by: Beyond Horizon I find this lack of BoB posts disturbing :D true... but we got lots of lovely alice mondelol from christine corp posts. consider them as bob posts :D I'll make sure to read you as a goon troll alt. Since the goonswarm posting ban has been in effect they have had to resort to posting on caod with alts. Its really quite pathetic.
Frances Ducoir VEB Kombinat Robotron	Posted - 2007.07.18 18:31:00 - [210] Originally by: Alice Cholmondeley Originally by: Frances Ducoir Edited by: Frances Ducoir on 18/07/2007 18:26:40 wtb: insight in the inbox of flatliners eve mailbox how many hatemails will he get? Originally by: Beyond Horizon I find this lack of BoB posts disturbing :D true... but we got lots of lovely alice mondelol from christine corp posts. consider them as bob posts :D I'll make sure to read you as a goon troll alt. would a goon in here need to post with his alt? i dont think so. I'an the alt of: me, myself and i. have a nice day
Arron S Gallente Rampage Eternal Ka-Tet	Posted - 2007.07.18 18:31:00 - [211] LOL, Awsome!!!! HAHAHA, this is funny
CitzNo 097864 CitzNo's Pet Grooming	Posted - 2007.07.18 18:32:00 - [212] BoB more like T1 Frigate N(b)o(o)B am i rite lolol i bet dark shikari got so mad he tore up whatever homo erotic manga he was reading at the time.
Sean Dillon Caldari Naughty 40	Posted - 2007.07.18 18:33:00 - [213] Was bount to happen I think, when you make so many enemies you always ave people that try to pull tricks like this. Just like happened to the goon titan fund. Still I think they are a disgrace to the eve universe. Imagin what happens when he puts all his billions isk to use.
Miezu Meethos Caldari Maelstrom Crew	Posted - 2007.07.18 18:34:00 - [214] If i would be Flatliner i would log in and set the convo tax to max and go afk for a hour or 2.
Richard Aiel Caldari MicroFunks	Posted - 2007.07.18 18:34:00 - [215] Originally by: Relaria Hossin Originally by: Orree Clearly we play the game for different reasons. That's fine. Understandable. Perfectly acceptable. If having a set of principles and sticking to them makes me crazy, then so be it. I'm not even talking about anyone's principles, I'm talking about how such a broad range of actions and consequences are available to us on such a vast scale. In this game it is possible to do SO much, both good and bad. The diversity of the interactions capable in EVE makes it strikingly close to real life, except in the end it is still just a game, which is what makes playing it so great. Theres GOOD in EVE?? seriously though... think theres a BoB gag order on EVE-O again? Cause im used to them douing at LEAST ten pages of smack, obfuscation, clouding the subject etc by now and I havent seen ANY posts... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yay! I can come up with good ideas too! http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=548436&page=2
Captain Thunk Omniscient Order	Posted - 2007.07.18 18:42:00 - [216] Originally by: Alice Cholmondeley I'm not really arguing that they didn't do the right thing. At the moment they only showed they will do the right thing when you spam, abuse and threaten CCP in general. I do not think it's behaviour that should be encouraged, which is what they are doing. ummm...yeah...it's pretty important that CCP does the right thing as often as possible for this game to work in their capacity as impartial gamesmasters If it takes threats and bullying to do that, then it's an unfortunate but necessary state of affairs. That said, CCP acted with full integrity in this instance. Most understand that if an account was hacked and billions stolen a great many items can be purchased very quickly, which in the event of them needing to be returned would be a logistical nightmare for those involved - not to mention the difficulties in explaining to sellers the reason why a transaction has been reversed and recovering the ISK (they themselves may have spent the ISK already) CCP has listened and acted in recent months. They state categorically if something is an exploit - examples being a firm decision made over POS bowling, stating via the news that neutral remote repping of POSs is an exploit immediately after revelations 2 patch when the problem was first discovered. This kind of behaviour is what people have been asking for and it's good work on CCP for listening and looking at ways to fix things to the benefit of everybody. It's a long road, but CCP are clearly trying their best and I think a great many players actually appreciate them for doing it and trust is beginning to rise once more. I don't see why you're so bitter about it, you seem to be a bit of a clunk to me. Captain Thunk
CitzNo 097864 CitzNo's Pet Grooming	Posted - 2007.07.18 18:42:00 - [217] The only thing evolution does better than losing ships is making crappy Nintendo 64-era low res solid models.
Xendie Minmatar Celestial Apocalypse Insurgency	Posted - 2007.07.18 18:42:00 - [218] Unlucky
Havoc GunStar GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.07.18 18:42:00 - [219] Originally by: ProphetGuru Evolution has ample reserves and while noone would be stupid enough to sit here and claim a blow like this doesn't hurt ingame, the reality is that much of the assets lost have already been replaced, and this in no way affects the strength of Evolution, or BoB. I have heard this line a few times before, from both sides of this war. Sig removed. If you would like further details please mail [email protected] with a link to your signature. - Elmo Pug
Richard Aiel Caldari MicroFunks	Posted - 2007.07.18 18:42:00 - [220] Originally by: ProphetGuru This is the only official statement you will recieve from Evolution regarding this incident. Flatliner did indeed clean out several of our hangars. It was him, he was not hacked, and Evolution is not contesting this, crying h4x, or sploit. It was a legit theft. Flatliner has been a good friend of ours, and mine, for years. He used this friendship in an attempt to destroy us, for his own reasons. I know not the real reason behind this, and in truth, I don't care. What is done is done. Evolution has ample reserves and while noone would be stupid enough to sit here and claim a blow like this doesn't hurt ingame, the reality is that much of the assets lost have already been replaced, and this in no way affects the strength of Evolution, or BoB. I know the muppet brigade is salivating... and to you I say what Evolution always says. Bring it. This is a testament to the strength and attitude of those of us who are on this ride we call Evolution. Events like this destroy weak corps. Events like this strengthen strong corps. We'll continue to Evolve. ah I get it... they all had a corp meeting and came up with this statement... thats why noone else is talking lol >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yay! I can come up with good ideas too! http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=548436&page=2
Relaria Hossin GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.07.18 18:43:00 - [221] Originally by: Mihailo Great Originally by: ProphetGuru We'll continue to Evolve. into furries? low blow
Erik Amirault Gallente GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.07.18 18:43:00 - [222] By "everything has been replaced" he means "we're not close to replacing everything" and by "this doesn't really hurt" he means "snap son we got OWNED, failure cascade."
Toffles GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.07.18 18:44:00 - [223] BoB sounds like the southern coalition saying "by taking our stations you've only made us stronger" except replace stations with assets.
DogzNutz Gallente Shiva Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2007.07.18 18:45:00 - [224] Well said Prof! As other I believe Corp thieving is dispicable and major trust hit is never easy to take. Sorry to here you taking down like this even if you are on my kill-list. Saying this I do completely understand that this kinda action is part of RL and is represented so in this wonderful game we play. Flaty, wcongrats on pulling this off matey and I can't wait to hear your reasons, to see if they tally with my suspitions. Good luck Evol in sorting it and good luck to the person who buys Flatliner character cos I can gather Evol/BoB will hunt him down for the rest of their lives. Bow Wow wow yippy ya yippy ya!!
Krun VanHalen GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.07.18 18:45:00 - [225] Oh snape
CitzNo 097864 CitzNo's Pet Grooming	Posted - 2007.07.18 18:45:00 - [226] Originally by: DogzNutz Well said Prof! As other I believe Corp thieving is dispicable and major trust hit is never easy to take. Sorry to here you taking down like this even if you are on my kill-list. Saying this I do completely understand that this kinda action is part of RL and is represented so in this wonderful game we play. Flaty, wcongrats on pulling this off matey and I can't wait to hear your reasons, to see if they tally with my suspitions. Good luck Evol in sorting it and good luck to the person who buys Flatliner character cos I can gather Evol/BoB will hunt him down for the rest of their lives. Hurf Durf
Jesabellita Amarr Battlestars GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.07.18 18:46:00 - [227] Originally by: ProphetGuru This is the only official statement you will recieve from Evolution regarding this incident. Flatliner did indeed clean out several of our hangars. It was him, he was not hacked, and Evolution is not contesting this, crying h4x, or sploit. It was a legit theft. Flatliner has been a good friend of ours, and mine, for years. He used this friendship in an attempt to destroy us, for his own reasons. I know not the real reason behind this, and in truth, I don't care. What is done is done. Evolution has ample reserves and while noone would be stupid enough to sit here and claim a blow like this doesn't hurt ingame, the reality is that much of the assets lost have already been replaced, and this in no way affects the strength of Evolution, or BoB. I know the muppet brigade is salivating... and to you I say what Evolution always says. Bring it. This is a testament to the strength and attitude of those of us who are on this ride we call Evolution. Events like this destroy weak corps. Events like this strengthen strong corps. We'll continue to Evolve. Way to step up m8. Sorry about the loss. See you in space
Richard Aiel Caldari MicroFunks	Posted - 2007.07.18 18:47:00 - [228] Originally by: Captain Thunk Originally by: Alice Cholmondeley I'm not really arguing that they didn't do the right thing. At the moment they only showed they will do the right thing when you spam, abuse and threaten CCP in general. I do not think it's behaviour that should be encouraged, which is what they are doing. ummm...yeah...it's pretty important that CCP does the right thing as often as possible for this game to work in their capacity as impartial gamesmasters If it takes threats and bullying to do that, then it's an unfortunate but necessary state of affairs. That said, CCP acted with full integrity in this instance. Most understand that if an account was hacked and billions stolen a great many items can be purchased very quickly, which in the event of them needing to be returned would be a logistical nightmare for those involved - not to mention the difficulties in explaining to sellers the reason why a transaction has been reversed and recovering the ISK (they themselves may have spent the ISK already) CCP has listened and acted in recent months. They state categorically if something is an exploit - examples being a firm decision made over POS bowling, stating via the news that neutral remote repping of POSs is an exploit immediately after revelations 2 patch when the problem was first discovered. This kind of behaviour is what people have been asking for and it's good work on CCP for listening and looking at ways to fix things to the benefit of everybody. It's a long road, but CCP are clearly trying their best and I think a great many players actually appreciate them for doing it and trust is beginning to rise once more. I don't see why you're so bitter about it, you seem to be a bit of a clunk to me. Captain Thunk So, everybody that gets petitioned gets instabanned till the full investigation is over? Seems to me with THIS policy Goonswarm could all KINDS of havoc... Thatd be even worse than the thread thingy they did >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yay! I can come up with good ideas too! http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=548436&page=2
Zeros Omega Reikoku Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.07.18 18:49:00 - [229] Originally by: Omorashi Wanted to buy: Some nice BPO's A couple of COMMAND SHIPS Three DREADNOUGHTS Four CARRIERS Five FREIGHTERS And SIX BATTLESHIPS. [Edited quote, removed extra spaces] snicker snicker seriously... I've seen us lose more then this in a single fleet battle, in which I died of 'course dictors being primary :(. I have also seen enemies (specifically the northern allied fleet in F-T cough). The BPO set (inless researched) is nothing more then a small annoyance, and I'm assuming its a T1 bpo set. AND last but not least to say... Someone commented on EVOL being a communist corporation, which it is. I would like to point out the following facts. EVOL has 449 members (as of post). Say half are alts, thats still around 224 members. Market cost of what was stolen as per that list 100b (and I'm being generous). Someone tell me about how much ISK then each person needs to make to recoup that loss? Yea, thats right, they would make nearly double that if they sent half their members to the belts to kill 1 battleship spawn... Mmm math, gotta love it. P.S. I think corp thievery is underhanded, peroid. Use of spy's is fine (off-lining POSs, aggro'ing titans, ect) but straight out stealing is bad! --- History is written on the sands of Arrakis. A chapter has ended, swept away by the whirlwind. One door has closed, but another has opened. And on the other side... our future...
Richard Aiel Caldari MicroFunks	Posted - 2007.07.18 18:50:00 - [230] Edited by: Richard Aiel on 18/07/2007 18:51:02 Originally by: Zeros Omega Originally by: Omorashi Wanted to buy: Some nice BPO's A couple of COMMAND SHIPS Three DREADNOUGHTS Four CARRIERS Five FREIGHTERS And SIX BATTLESHIPS. [Edited quote, removed extra spaces] snicker snicker seriously... I've seen us lose more then this in a single fleet battle, in which I died of 'course dictors being primary :(. I have also seen enemies (specifically the northern allied fleet in F-T cough). The BPO set (inless researched) is nothing more then a small annoyance, and I'm assuming its a T1 bpo set. AND last but not least to say... Someone commented on EVOL being a communist corporation, which it is. I would like to point out the following facts. EVOL has 449 members (as of post). Say half are alts, thats still around 224 members. Market cost of what was stolen as per that list 100b (and I'm being generous). Someone tell me about how much ISK then each person needs to make to recoup that loss? Yea, thats right, they would make nearly double that if they sent half their members to the belts to kill 1 battleship spawn... Mmm math, gotta love it. P.S. I think corp thievery is underhanded, peroid. Use of spy's is fine (off-lining POSs, aggro'ing titans, ect) but straight out stealing is bad! oh here we go! here comes the smack! Where you guys been? We got 6 pages of fun and no Bob at all... and... bth... BoB talking about what is and what isnt underhanded is just damned funny to me >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yay! I can come up with good ideas too! http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=548436&page=2
Frances Ducoir VEB Kombinat Robotron	Posted - 2007.07.18 18:50:00 - [231] Originally by: DeathGrip Every thread, enemy or not I have said same thing. Thieves are the lowest of the low. And each corp should look at there members laughing about it in here, they are the ones you need to watch for in your corp. o/ deathgrip... thanks for the nice officer magstab sale a while ago i agree that corp thieving is something very rude and would not do it on myself but i have to laugh about this one because of 2 reasons: 1. i think the bigger alliances get, the worse it gets for eve... more small alliances = smaller fights = more fun. more smaller alliances = anarchy and war everywere. some big alliances = lots of boredom 2. bob themselfes are bad ones, the dark side (i refer to their behaviour ingame, not RL) so why would someone be not amused when the darkside gets a hit from someone who is even worse?
Flow Befort GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.07.18 18:50:00 - [232] Originally by: Zeros Omega Originally by: Omorashi Wanted to buy: Some nice BPO's A couple of COMMAND SHIPS Three DREADNOUGHTS Four CARRIERS Five FREIGHTERS And SIX BATTLESHIPS. [Edited quote, removed extra spaces] snicker snicker
Phelan Driscoll GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.07.18 18:51:00 - [233] The assets have already been replaced. Even though they didn't want them anyway. Originally by: Krun VanHalen Oh snape He dies. So does Ron. _____________________________________ Are GoonSwarm ever going to be allowed to build up in any way in 0.0 space again? No.
rockerguy SwEaTy ArMpIT RaIDeRs	Posted - 2007.07.18 18:51:00 - [234] Edited by: rockerguy on 18/07/2007 18:54:11 man i would like ur phone number and i would like to buy u a pitcher of beer for the good work of that blag .. couldnt of happened to a nicer bunch of goof troops ty for making my week edit ps if they do get that stuff replaced then i want the stuff ive lost over the years back .. dosent seem fair just cos they have GM's in there alliance they should get there crap back( assuming ofc they do)
Pampinus Medusae	Posted - 2007.07.18 18:51:00 - [235] snip Posting with an unidentified character and characters in NPC corporations in this forum is prohibited. If you wish to participate in the discussions here, be sure to have your corporation and or alliance status ticked in your forum settings. -Wachtmeister ([email protected])
IRS Informant Income Redistribution Service	Posted - 2007.07.18 18:52:00 - [236] Tinfoil Hat Time! It's all an elaborate plan to draw the Coalition into over-extending themselves. First step was the intentional Titan loss to give RA/Goon a boost of morale to pull together. Second step is this faked corp theft to give them a sense of confidence. And the final step will be the utter annihilation of the Coalition fleet when it attacks BoB space. It's a trap!! froth froth froth /tinfoil hat
Shihuangdi GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.07.18 18:52:00 - [237] Originally by: Zeros Omega P.S. I think corp thievery is underhanded, peroid. Use of spy's is fine (off-lining POSs, aggro'ing titans, ect) but straight out stealing is bad! This is why we love fighting BoB.
With JudgeReinhold Gallente Legal Team	Posted - 2007.07.18 18:52:00 - [238] Edited by: With JudgeReinhold on 18/07/2007 18:54:00 Originally by: Zeros Omega Originally by: Omorashi Wanted to buy: Some nice BPO's A couple of COMMAND SHIPS Three DREADNOUGHTS Four CARRIERS Five FREIGHTERS And SIX BATTLESHIPS. [Edited quote, removed extra spaces] snicker snicker seriously... I've seen us lose more then this in a single fleet battle, in which I died of 'course dictors being primary :(. I have also seen enemies (specifically the northern allied fleet in F-T cough). The BPO set (inless researched) is nothing more then a small annoyance, and I'm assuming its a T1 bpo set. AND last but not least to say... Someone commented on EVOL being a communist corporation, which it is. I would like to point out the following facts. EVOL has 449 members (as of post). Say half are alts, thats still around 224 members. Market cost of what was stolen as per that list 100b (and I'm being generous). Someone tell me about how much ISK then each person needs to make to recoup that loss? Yea, thats right, they would make nearly double that if they sent half their members to the belts to kill 1 battleship spawn... Mmm math, gotta love it. P.S. I think corp thievery is underhanded, peroid. Use of spy's is fine (off-lining POSs, aggro'ing titans, ect) but straight out stealing is bad! The dreadnaughts have already been replaced and we are now a stronger alliance than ever! RA has achieved nothing today! What? Because we lost the baby titan means we're dead or something? That just shows what a strong alliance we are that we can easily take such a loss! So what if wotank died, we already have ANOTHER titan and will be back on the offensive in no time flat! No damage has been done at all!
Richard Aiel Caldari MicroFunks	Posted - 2007.07.18 18:53:00 - [239] Originally by: Phelan Driscoll The assets have already been replaced. Even though they didn't want them anyway. Originally by: Krun VanHalen Oh snape He dies. So does Ron. _____________________________________ YOU EVIL BASTARD!!!! >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yay! I can come up with good ideas too! http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=548436&page=2
The Hooch Minmatar Privateers Privateer Alliance	Posted - 2007.07.18 18:53:00 - [240] OMG! This is classic, they got it back in spades! All that crowing about how they have done this themselves to others and now this. It is good to see that even the all powerful Band of Brothers can get hammered with the same fist they use.
Captain Thunk Omniscient Order	Posted - 2007.07.18 18:53:00 - [241] Originally by: Richard Aiel Originally by: Captain Thunk Originally by: Alice Cholmondeley I'm not really arguing that they didn't do the right thing. At the moment they only showed they will do the right thing when you spam, abuse and threaten CCP in general. I do not think it's behaviour that should be encouraged, which is what they are doing. ummm...yeah...it's pretty important that CCP does the right thing as often as possible for this game to work in their capacity as impartial gamesmasters If it takes threats and bullying to do that, then it's an unfortunate but necessary state of affairs. That said, CCP acted with full integrity in this instance. Most understand that if an account was hacked and billions stolen a great many items can be purchased very quickly, which in the event of them needing to be returned would be a logistical nightmare for those involved - not to mention the difficulties in explaining to sellers the reason why a transaction has been reversed and recovering the ISK (they themselves may have spent the ISK already) CCP has listened and acted in recent months. They state categorically if something is an exploit - examples being a firm decision made over POS bowling, stating via the news that neutral remote repping of POSs is an exploit immediately after revelations 2 patch when the problem was first discovered. This kind of behaviour is what people have been asking for and it's good work on CCP for listening and looking at ways to fix things to the benefit of everybody. It's a long road, but CCP are clearly trying their best and I think a great many players actually appreciate them for doing it and trust is beginning to rise once more. I don't see why you're so bitter about it, you seem to be a bit of a clunk to me. Captain Thunk So, everybody that gets petitioned gets instabanned till the full investigation is over? Seems to me with THIS policy Goonswarm could all KINDS of havoc... Thatd be even worse than the thread thingy they did For something on this scale yes, what choice is there when you consider the logistal nightmare of returning bought items to what could mount up to thousands of players. It would take a very long time to reverse these transactions and could have further complications in that the sellers could have already spent their ISK - a reversed transaction would then put them in the negative - is that fair to a player who just had items on the market? just another victim of the hacker? I don't think so. What's your solution exactly? shrug and move on perhaps? It's not pleasant, but for something of this scale it has to be done and CCP made an investigation very quickly. As for abuse of the system, well it has to be high scale and mass petitioning would of course give the game away and would probably get the people trying it on in trouble, so it doesn't seem to be as great a problem as you make out. Captain Thunk
Cougem Divine Retribution	Posted - 2007.07.18 18:53:00 - [242] Originally by: Zeros Omega Originally by: Omorashi Wanted to buy: Some nice BPO's A couple of COMMAND SHIPS Three DREADNOUGHTS Four CARRIERS Five FREIGHTERS And SIX BATTLESHIPS. [Edited quote, removed extra spaces] snicker snicker seriously... I've seen us lose more then this in a single fleet battle, in which I died of 'course dictors being primary :(. I have also seen enemies (specifically the northern allied fleet in F-T cough). The BPO set (inless researched) is nothing more then a small annoyance, and I'm assuming its a T1 bpo set. AND last but not least to say... Someone commented on EVOL being a communist corporation, which it is. I would like to point out the following facts. EVOL has 449 members (as of post). Say half are alts, thats still around 224 members. Market cost of what was stolen as per that list 100b (and I'm being generous). Someone tell me about how much ISK then each person needs to make to recoup that loss? Yea, thats right, they would make nearly double that if they sent half their members to the belts to kill 1 battleship spawn... Mmm math, gotta love it. P.S. I think corp thievery is underhanded, peroid. Use of spy's is fine (off-lining POSs, aggro'ing titans, ect) but straight out stealing is bad! Sorry, you've lost me... 100b between 200 players = half a bil each. You make half a bil from a BS spawn? Or am I missing something?
Wigglytuff Vale Heavy Industries Molotov Coalition	Posted - 2007.07.18 18:54:00 - [243] Epic theft really. If St0ke is smart he's busy writing this up into a killer story, atleast Nightfreeze quality. Belt piracy isnt what it used to be.
Flinx Evenstar Minmatar Spartan Industries Cruel Intentions	Posted - 2007.07.18 18:54:00 - [244] Originally by: ProphetGuru Flatliner has been a good friend of ours, and mine, for years. He used this friendship in an attempt to destroy us, for his own reasons. I know not the real reason behind this, and in truth, I don't care. What is done is done. I'd love to hear the reason why he did this. Was it: A: Long term plan from the start B: Someone really really annoyed him C: He just woke up crazy one day and though..."why not" Oh and to ProphetGuru, since you say you thought of him as a friend, I will offer you a little bit of sympathy. As having your friendship betrayed like that surely hurts far more than the loss of the isk. I, erm, like kill things and stuff
Zeros Omega Reikoku Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.07.18 18:54:00 - [245] Originally by: Shihuangdi Originally by: Zeros Omega P.S. I think corp thievery is underhanded, peroid. Use of spy's is fine (off-lining POSs, aggro'ing titans, ect) but straight out stealing is bad! This is why we love fighting BoB. TBH I was quite mad when I heard the goon titan fund was stolen. I really wanted to chance to kill a GOON owned super-capital, not one lended to you be RA. --- History is written on the sands of Arrakis. A chapter has ended, swept away by the whirlwind. One door has closed, but another has opened. And on the other side... our future...
Slayton Ford Uninvited Guests	Posted - 2007.07.18 18:55:00 - [246] Originally by: ProphetGuru This is the only official statement you will recieve from Evolution regarding this incident. Flatliner did indeed clean out several of our hangars. It was him, he was not hacked, and Evolution is not contesting this, crying h4x, or sploit. It was a legit theft. Flatliner has been a good friend of ours, and mine, for years. He used this friendship in an attempt to destroy us, for his own reasons. I know not the real reason behind this, and in truth, I don't care. What is done is done. Evolution has ample reserves and while noone would be stupid enough to sit here and claim a blow like this doesn't hurt ingame, the reality is that much of the assets lost have already been replaced, and this in no way affects the strength of Evolution, or BoB. I know the muppet brigade is salivating... and to you I say what Evolution always says. Bring it. This is a testament to the strength and attitude of those of us who are on this ride we call Evolution. Events like this destroy weak corps. Events like this strengthen strong corps. We'll continue to Evolve. So, will Goons still not be allowed to hold sov in 0.0? --------------- This sig has been censored in fear of recieving the ban hammer...
Frances Ducoir VEB Kombinat Robotron	Posted - 2007.07.18 18:55:00 - [247] Originally by: Wigglytuff Epic theft really. If St0ke is smart he's busy writing this up into a killer story, atleast Nightfreeze quality. he just needs to copy his evemailbox over to caod...
General StarScream Gallente PLAYBOYS FREGE Alliance	Posted - 2007.07.18 18:56:00 - [248] haha
NeVeH Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2007.07.18 18:56:00 - [249] Originally by: Zeros Omega Originally by: Omorashi Wanted to buy: Some nice BPO's A couple of COMMAND SHIPS Three DREADNOUGHTS Four CARRIERS Five FREIGHTERS And SIX BATTLESHIPS. [Edited quote, removed extra spaces] snicker snicker seriously... I've seen us lose more then this in a single fleet battle, in which I died of 'course dictors being primary :(. I have also seen enemies (specifically the northern allied fleet in F-T cough). The BPO set (inless researched) is nothing more then a small annoyance, and I'm assuming its a T1 bpo set. AND last but not least to say... Someone commented on EVOL being a communist corporation, which it is. I would like to point out the following facts. EVOL has 449 members (as of post). Say half are alts, thats still around 224 members. Market cost of what was stolen as per that list 100b (and I'm being generous). Someone tell me about how much ISK then each person needs to make to recoup that loss? Yea, thats right, they would make nearly double that if they sent half their members to the belts to kill 1 battleship spawn... Mmm math, gotta love it. P.S. I think corp thievery is underhanded, peroid. Use of spy's is fine (off-lining POSs, aggro'ing titans, ect) but straight out stealing is bad! Delve has 1bil BS spawns
With JudgeReinhold Gallente Legal Team	Posted - 2007.07.18 18:56:00 - [250] Originally by: Slayton Ford Originally by: ProphetGuru This is the only official statement you will recieve from Evolution regarding this incident. Flatliner did indeed clean out several of our hangars. It was him, he was not hacked, and Evolution is not contesting this, crying h4x, or sploit. It was a legit theft. Flatliner has been a good friend of ours, and mine, for years. He used this friendship in an attempt to destroy us, for his own reasons. I know not the real reason behind this, and in truth, I don't care. What is done is done. Evolution has ample reserves and while noone would be stupid enough to sit here and claim a blow like this doesn't hurt ingame, the reality is that much of the assets lost have already been replaced, and this in no way affects the strength of Evolution, or BoB. I know the muppet brigade is salivating... and to you I say what Evolution always says. Bring it. This is a testament to the strength and attitude of those of us who are on this ride we call Evolution. Events like this destroy weak corps. Events like this strengthen strong corps. We'll continue to Evolve. So, will Goons still not be allowed to hold sov in 0.0? -dbp
Stoffer Ninjapirate Amarr GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.07.18 18:56:00 - [251] Originally by: Zeros Omega Originally by: Omorashi Wanted to buy: Some nice BPO's A couple of COMMAND SHIPS Three DREADNOUGHTS Four CARRIERS Five FREIGHTERS And SIX BATTLESHIPS. [Edited quote, removed extra spaces] snicker snicker seriously... I've seen us lose more then this in a single fleet battle, in which I died of 'course dictors being primary :(. I have also seen enemies (specifically the northern allied fleet in F-T cough). The BPO set (inless researched) is nothing more then a small annoyance, and I'm assuming its a T1 bpo set. AND last but not least to say... Someone commented on EVOL being a communist corporation, which it is. I would like to point out the following facts. EVOL has 449 members (as of post). Say half are alts, thats still around 224 members. Market cost of what was stolen as per that list 100b (and I'm being generous). Someone tell me about how much ISK then each person needs to make to recoup that loss? Yea, thats right, they would make nearly double that if they sent half their members to the belts to kill 1 battleship spawn... Mmm math, gotta love it. P.S. I think corp thievery is underhanded, peroid. Use of spy's is fine (off-lining POSs, aggro'ing titans, ect) but straight out stealing is bad! You didn't want those hangars anyway.
CitzNo 097864 CitzNo's Pet Grooming	Posted - 2007.07.18 18:57:00 - [252] Obviously if BoB had the logistical prowess that they claim then this wouldn't have happened. Corp Theft is a fair tactic used in EVE online to remove power from the hands of your enemy, and little light-hearted fairies dont like that because they're too soft to keep a grip on the corp.
The Hooch Minmatar Privateers Privateer Alliance	Posted - 2007.07.18 18:57:00 - [253] Originally by: With JudgeReinhold Originally by: Zeros Omega Originally by: Omorashi Wanted to buy: Some nice BPO's A couple of COMMAND SHIPS Three DREADNOUGHTS Four CARRIERS Five FREIGHTERS And SIX BATTLESHIPS. [Edited quote, removed extra spaces] snicker snicker seriously... I've seen us lose more then this in a single fleet battle, in which I died of 'course dictors being primary :(. I have also seen enemies (specifically the northern allied fleet in F-T cough). The BPO set (inless researched) is nothing more then a small annoyance, and I'm assuming its a T1 bpo set. AND last but not least to say... Someone commented on EVOL being a communist corporation, which it is. I would like to point out the following facts. EVOL has 449 members (as of post). Say half are alts, thats still around 224 members. Market cost of what was stolen as per that list 100b (and I'm being generous). Someone tell me about how much ISK then each person needs to make to recoup that loss? Yea, thats right, they would make nearly double that if they sent half their members to the belts to kill 1 battleship spawn... Mmm math, gotta love it. P.S. I think corp thievery is underhanded, peroid. Use of spy's is fine (off-lining POSs, aggro'ing titans, ect) but straight out stealing is bad! The dreadnaughts have already been replaced and we are now a stronger alliance than ever! RA has achieved nothing today! What? Because we lost the baby titan means we're dead or something? That just shows what a strong alliance we are that we can easily take such a loss! Say what you like, it's not the isk or the ships, or the other assests you lost. It's the egg on your face that is priceless. You have been whammied, but good, and long over due. Welcome to the Eve you helped create!
Solid Wilko Minmatar InNova Tech Inc Storm Armada	Posted - 2007.07.18 18:57:00 - [254] Originally by: Entschlossen Originally by: Deva Blackfire Originally by: Entschlossen How lame can someone be, to steal from friends he fought 3-4 years with. I can't understand that. Its only a game. You forgot that? No mate its more, at least for me its a kind of hobby, where i meet with friends, chat and have fun together. But i also dont see what this has to do with beeing a game or not, someone you thought is a friend backstabbed you. If he does it in Eve or when you play poker or steals it directly from you makes now difference for me, its simply lame. Is it lame when BoB does it to other Alliances? Weird I don't see you saying how lame it was for BoB to use their alts in other Alliance to cause losses of 10's of Billions of isk. Please point me to those posts if I missed them
Shihuangdi GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.07.18 18:57:00 - [255] Originally by: Zeros Omega Originally by: Shihuangdi Originally by: Zeros Omega P.S. I think corp thievery is underhanded, peroid. Use of spy's is fine (off-lining POSs, aggro'ing titans, ect) but straight out stealing is bad! This is why we love fighting BoB. TBH I was quite mad when I heard the goon titan fund was stolen. I really wanted to chance to kill a GOON owned super-capital, not one lended to you be RA. But we do have a Goon owned super-capital?
Zeros Omega Reikoku Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.07.18 18:58:00 - [256] Edited by: Zeros Omega on 18/07/2007 19:04:19 Originally by: Cougem Originally by: Zeros Omega what i said Sorry, you've lost me... 100b between 200 players = half a bil each. You make half a bil from a BS spawn? Or am I missing something? 1 BS spawn = 10m ISK w/salvage & loot generally (thats a triple spawn of 1.5+) So, they would have to each kill 50-60 spawns... Every heard of the use of over-exaggerating? --- History is written on the sands of Arrakis. A chapter has ended, swept away by the whirlwind. One door has closed, but another has opened. And on the other side... our future...
With JudgeReinhold Gallente Legal Team	Posted - 2007.07.18 19:00:00 - [257] Originally by: Zeros Omega Originally by: Cougem Originally by: Zeros Omega what i said Sorry, you've lost me... 100b between 200 players = half a bil each. You make half a bil from a BS spawn? Or am I missing something? 1 BS spawn = 10m ISK w/salvage & loot generally (thats a triple spawn of 1.5+) So, they would have to each kill 5-6 spawns... Every heard of the use of over-exaggerating? My god it's like watching a dog trying to do algebra.
Shihuangdi GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.07.18 19:00:00 - [258] Originally by: NeVeH Originally by: Zeros Omega Originally by: Omorashi Wanted to buy: Some nice BPO's A couple of COMMAND SHIPS Three DREADNOUGHTS Four CARRIERS Five FREIGHTERS And SIX BATTLESHIPS. [Edited quote, removed extra spaces] snicker snicker seriously... I've seen us lose more then this in a single fleet battle, in which I died of 'course dictors being primary :(. I have also seen enemies (specifically the northern allied fleet in F-T cough). The BPO set (inless researched) is nothing more then a small annoyance, and I'm assuming its a T1 bpo set. AND last but not least to say... Someone commented on EVOL being a communist corporation, which it is. I would like to point out the following facts. EVOL has 449 members (as of post). Say half are alts, thats still around 224 members. Market cost of what was stolen as per that list 100b (and I'm being generous). Someone tell me about how much ISK then each person needs to make to recoup that loss? Yea, thats right, they would make nearly double that if they sent half their members to the belts to kill 1 battleship spawn... Mmm math, gotta love it. P.S. I think corp thievery is underhanded, peroid. Use of spy's is fine (off-lining POSs, aggro'ing titans, ect) but straight out stealing is bad! Delve has 1bil BS spawns This explains why BoB is so rich. They have 1 billion isk battleship spawns.
Marko Zhang Chargin Mah Lazors	Posted - 2007.07.18 19:00:00 - [259] Originally by: NeVeH Delve has 1bil BS spawns If any region did, I would imagine it'd be that one.
Zeros Omega Reikoku Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.07.18 19:01:00 - [260] Originally by: The Hooch Originally by: With JudgeReinhold quoted stuff Say what you like, it's not the isk or the ships, or the other assests you lost. It's the egg on your face that is priceless. You have been whammied, but good, and long over due. Welcome to the Eve you helped create! Dear Hooch, bring it. But, like you said, its nothing more then being hit by an egg. All you need is a nice good shower ;) --- History is written on the sands of Arrakis. A chapter has ended, swept away by the whirlwind. One door has closed, but another has opened. And on the other side... our future...
Krun VanHalen GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.07.18 19:02:00 - [261] BoB dont really need any of that crap anyway because they are like the USMC so you lost today tbh Goonswarm
Hohne Antares Fleet Yards SMASH Alliance	Posted - 2007.07.18 19:03:00 - [262] Originally by: Zeros Omega Originally by: Cougem Originally by: Zeros Omega what i said Sorry, you've lost me... 100b between 200 players = half a bil each. You make half a bil from a BS spawn? Or am I missing something? 1 BS spawn = 10m ISK w/salvage & loot generally (thats a triple spawn of 1.5+) So, they would have to each kill 5-6 spawns... Every heard of the use of over-exaggerating? You're still doing it? 10m with loot and slavage? Try 2 unless you have T2 BS spawns... and 2 is generously assuming you've found a good one. Try 10-20m/hr. Which makes it more like 250 spawns and 25+ hrs ea.
Mihailo Great GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.07.18 19:03:00 - [263] Edited by: Mihailo Great on 18/07/2007 19:03:59 This game is awesome.
Jacque Custeau Knights of the Minmatar Republic	Posted - 2007.07.18 19:03:00 - [264] I always think that corp thefts are horrible and cringe whenever I heard about them. However, in this situation I recall the POS bowling, the smack talk and the ninja-titan aggro and I find myself thinking no one else could have deserved this more. Sadly though, I am pretty sure Evolution will bounce back from this. They have many renters lining their pockets. It must suck though that this is happening so close to their annual bbq. -------------------
Cadiz Caldari No Quarter. Vae Victis.	Posted - 2007.07.18 19:04:00 - [265] Corp theft is lame as all hell, even if it happens to my enemies. Never thought I'd be saying this, but...well, uh, my sympathies & condolences to Evolution, I suppose. ------ Director, No Quarter "There is no problem that cannot be solved by the judicious application of violence."
Cadiz Caldari No Quarter. Vae Victis.	Posted - 2007.07.18 19:05:00 - [266] Originally by: NeVeH Delve has 1bil BS spawns I've always claimed that every spawn in Delve was a triple officer spawn. Guess this confirms it. ------ Director, No Quarter "There is no problem that cannot be solved by the judicious application of violence."
Vorketh Mordanil Amarr Brotherhood of Acquisitions	Posted - 2007.07.18 19:12:00 - [267] My RL sympathies go to the RL folks behind the characters that make up Evolution - your trust has been breached, and that can be a shocking / somewhat traumatic experience. As to the characters and the in game Corp / alliance... I maintain political neutrality, so all I can say is that this was well performed, and I am interested to see if this makes any waves... however much bravado it may seem being displayed by comments of it is already replaced, I tend to find them accurate - I really think this will be a ripple in the ocean... V... out. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Danton Marcellus Nebula Rasa Holdings	Posted - 2007.07.18 19:13:00 - [268] Removed reference to deleted post. -Elmo Pug Also Known As
Hyuuga Veralis Pator Tech School	Posted - 2007.07.18 19:14:00 - [269] Originally by: Zeros Omega Originally by: Omorashi Wanted to buy: Some nice BPO's A couple of COMMAND SHIPS Three DREADNOUGHTS Four CARRIERS Five FREIGHTERS And SIX BATTLESHIPS. [Edited quote, removed extra spaces] snicker snicker seriously... I've seen us lose more then this in a single fleet battle, in which I died of 'course dictors being primary :(. I have also seen enemies (specifically the northern allied fleet in F-T cough). The BPO set (inless researched) is nothing more then a small annoyance, and I'm assuming its a T1 bpo set. AND last but not least to say... Someone commented on EVOL being a communist corporation, which it is. I would like to point out the following facts. EVOL has 449 members (as of post). Say half are alts, thats still around 224 members. Market cost of what was stolen as per that list 100b (and I'm being generous). Someone tell me about how much ISK then each person needs to make to recoup that loss? Yea, thats right, they would make nearly double that if they sent half their members to the belts to kill 1 battleship spawn... Mmm math, gotta love it. P.S. I think corp thievery is underhanded, peroid. Use of spy's is fine (off-lining POSs, aggro'ing titans, ect) but straight out stealing is bad! Zeros, might I suggest brushing up on your math? 224 x 1,500,000 != < 100,000,000,000 Unless Evol has belts that spawn 10mil ISK bounty NPCs, they'd need to kill more than 1 each. But yes, a large corp/alliance that has every member do an hour of solid isk-making for the corp, will get billions of isk easily. Doing it daily will give the corp more ISK than it knows what to do with.
Cadiz Caldari No Quarter. Vae Victis.	Posted - 2007.07.18 19:15:00 - [270] Edited by: Cadiz on 18/07/2007 19:15:19 CCP temporarily locking accounts involved in corp theft is hardly unheard of; it happened in NoQ when one of our directors had his account hacked and tried to run off with the corp wallet. The account got temp-banned by the GMs (and wasn't unlocked for a month after the fact much to the chagrin of the legitimate owner, but that's another story) as the situation was investigated. So CCP is not doing some strange and new thing here just because it is BoB, for those who seem to be implying such. ------ Director, No Quarter "There is no problem that cannot be solved by the judicious application of violence."
Jacque Custeau Knights of the Minmatar Republic	Posted - 2007.07.18 19:16:00 - [271] snip Trolling. -Elmo Pug -------------------
Jenai'na	Posted - 2007.07.18 19:16:00 - [272] snip Posting with an unidentified character and / or characters in NPC corporations in this forum is prohibited. If you wish to participate in the discussions here, be sure to have your corporation and or alliance status ticked in your forum settings. -Elmo Pug ([email protected])
With JudgeReinhold Gallente Legal Team	Posted - 2007.07.18 19:17:00 - [273] Originally by: Tritosohr Originally by: Zeros Omega Originally by: The Hooch Originally by: With JudgeReinhold quoted stuff Say what you like, it's not the isk or the ships, or the other assests you lost. It's the egg on your face that is priceless. You have been whammied, but good, and long over due. Welcome to the Eve you helped create! Dear Hooch, bring it. But, like you said, its nothing more then being hit by an egg. All you need is a nice good shower ;) wow.. you are 3 months in bob's "we take every one" and you take things like "bring it" in your mouth.. awesome.. Maybe you hadn't heard but they are having the time of their lives pulling alarm-clock ops to watch their towers die in 9-9.
Rutoo Gallente Interstellar eXodus R0ADKILL	Posted - 2007.07.18 19:17:00 - [274] Theres 2 things Men Love, Sex and a Heist. This guy picked the Heist. Bravo. _________________________________________________________ My Second EvE Video Club Seals Not Sandwichs
Omorashi Gallente Medical Miners	Posted - 2007.07.18 19:18:00 - [275] Originally by: ProphetGuru This is the only official statement you will recieve from Evolution regarding this incident. Flatliner did indeed clean out several of our hangars. It was him, he was not hacked, and Evolution is not contesting this, crying h4x, or sploit. It was a legit theft. Flatliner has been a good friend of ours, and mine, for years. He used this friendship in an attempt to destroy us, for his own reasons. I know not the real reason behind this, and in truth, I don't care. What is done is done. Evolution has ample reserves and while noone would be stupid enough to sit here and claim a blow like this doesn't hurt ingame, the reality is that much of the assets lost have already been replaced, and this in no way affects the strength of Evolution, or BoB. I know the muppet brigade is salivating... and to you I say what Evolution always says. Bring it. This is a testament to the strength and attitude of those of us who are on this ride we call Evolution. Events like this destroy weak corps. Events like this strengthen strong corps. We'll continue to Evolve. One has to wonder how they were replaced so quickly. Like did someone wave a magical wand and "replaced" them, or are they just really telling a nice story to put on a brave face. Some of the items take time to replace, they just don't fly in off the market, unless the tooth fairy also flies with you people.
Junkie Beverage GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.07.18 19:18:00 - [276] Edited by: Junkie Beverage on 18/07/2007 19:25:05 this could not have happened to a nicer buncha guys ;_; .
FarmerJimbo GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.07.18 19:21:00 - [277] RESPECT ++
Hashi Lebwohl Oberon Incorporated	Posted - 2007.07.18 19:22:00 - [278] I've always had a love/ hate relationship with Evolution in that I have always loved to hate the Corp (ever since losing my first bs to them in the summer of '03)...but that's in game. Corp theft is really low and the perpetrators are the lowest form of slime. I wish everyone in Evolution well in getting past this and replacing what has been lost...so I can get back to hating you again.
Speed Devil Caldari Mean Machines	Posted - 2007.07.18 19:22:00 - [279] Originally by: ProphetGuru This is the only official statement you will recieve from Evolution regarding this incident. Flatliner did indeed clean out several of our hangars. It was him, he was not hacked, and Evolution is not contesting this, crying h4x, or sploit. It was a legit theft. Flatliner has been a good friend of ours, and mine, for years. He used this friendship in an attempt to destroy us, for his own reasons. I know not the real reason behind this, and in truth, I don't care. What is done is done. Evolution has ample reserves and while noone would be stupid enough to sit here and claim a blow like this doesn't hurt ingame, the reality is that much of the assets lost have already been replaced, and this in no way affects the strength of Evolution, or BoB. I know the muppet brigade is salivating... and to you I say what Evolution always says. Bring it. This is a testament to the strength and attitude of those of us who are on this ride we call Evolution. Events like this destroy weak corps. Events like this strengthen strong corps. We'll continue to Evolve. wow, in 8 hours replacing 300bil in assets?
Omorashi Gallente Medical Miners	Posted - 2007.07.18 19:22:00 - [280] Originally by: Junkie Beverage this could not have happened to a nicer buncha guys ;_; Hey there big boy, that's a nice, firm tummy you have there. My pod or yours?
The Hooch Minmatar Privateers Privateer Alliance	Posted - 2007.07.18 19:23:00 - [281] Originally by: Zeros Omega Originally by: The Hooch Originally by: With JudgeReinhold quoted stuff Say what you like, it's not the isk or the ships, or the other assests you lost. It's the egg on your face that is priceless. You have been whammied, but good, and long over due. Welcome to the Eve you helped create! My lad, I always do, here on the forums or when I face them in a fight either way. Dear Hooch, bring it. But, like you said, its nothing more then being hit by an egg. All you need is a nice good shower ;)
Flinx Evenstar Minmatar Spartan Industries Cruel Intentions	Posted - 2007.07.18 19:25:00 - [282] Originally by: Jacque Custeau Nice try Wrangler. There is much more to this. By banning the character to make sure no additional hacking is going on, you are preventing him from continuing to steal from the corp. It does not take all that much time to determine what IP is accessing the acct and if it is consistent with previous log ins. No, what happened here is that a corp very dear to many CCP employees was being plundered, so you suspended the acct to stop additional items from being stolen under the pretense of checking for potential hacking. I am certain that without your interference and intrusion on this person's lawful gameplay, even more assets would have been acquired. Now that your unjustified suspicions have proven unfounded, will your jobs be suspended pending an investigation? Or is there yet again no accountability here? You'll have to ask Flatliner, but I think he did the stealing on Monday, he was banned for short time on Thursday. He managed to steal from something like 7 hangers before it was noticed and petitioned. So while CCP acted swiftly once asked to investigate, I think Flatliner had plenty of time to do what he set out to do I, erm, like kill things and stuff
Goberth Ludwig eXceed Inc. INVICTUS.	Posted - 2007.07.18 19:25:00 - [283] Originally by: Hyuuga Veralis Originally by: Zeros Omega Originally by: Omorashi Wanted to buy: Some nice BPO's A couple of COMMAND SHIPS Three DREADNOUGHTS Four CARRIERS Five FREIGHTERS And SIX BATTLESHIPS. [Edited quote, removed extra spaces] snicker snicker seriously... I've seen us lose more then this in a single fleet battle, in which I died of 'course dictors being primary :(. I have also seen enemies (specifically the northern allied fleet in F-T cough). The BPO set (inless researched) is nothing more then a small annoyance, and I'm assuming its a T1 bpo set. AND last but not least to say... Someone commented on EVOL being a communist corporation, which it is. I would like to point out the following facts. EVOL has 449 members (as of post). Say half are alts, thats still around 224 members. Market cost of what was stolen as per that list 100b (and I'm being generous). Someone tell me about how much ISK then each person needs to make to recoup that loss? Yea, thats right, they would make nearly double that if they sent half their members to the belts to kill 1 battleship spawn... Mmm math, gotta love it. P.S. I think corp thievery is underhanded, peroid. Use of spy's is fine (off-lining POSs, aggro'ing titans, ect) but straight out stealing is bad! Zeros, might I suggest brushing up on your math? 224 x 1,500,000 != < 100,000,000,000 Unless Evol has belts that spawn 10mil ISK bounty NPCs, they'd need to kill more than 1 each. But yes, a large corp/alliance that has every member do an hour of solid isk-making for the corp, will get billions of isk easily. Doing it daily will give the corp more ISK than it knows what to do with. If you mine and make the 100 bil back you are still 100 bil poorer than if the heist didnt happen tho :\ - Gob Now with 20% extra emo!
Laboratus Gallente BGG League of Abnormal Gentlemen	Posted - 2007.07.18 19:25:00 - [284] Originally by: Omorashi One has to wonder how they were replaced so quickly. Like did someone wave a magical wand and "replaced" them, or are they just really telling a nice story to put on a brave face. Some of the items take time to replace, they just don't fly in off the market, unless the tooth fairy also flies with you people. Bob fight in phases. Atm they were carebearing after the last campaign stage, and they propably have the biggest financial support strcuture of all alliances, and as the thief had said that most things t2 were locked and he couldn't get them, quite a few things in a carebear phase can be replaced by pushing the "deliver" button in the industry window... It is a bit depressing to think that the scale is so big, but what can ya do... ___ P.S. Post with your main. Mind control and tin hats
Relaria Hossin GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.07.18 19:25:00 - [285] Originally by: Danton Marcellus Edited by: Danton Marcellus on 18/07/2007 19:13:27 Originally by: Mih0 Burbage dies on pg. 12 Hedwig dies on pg. 56 Mad-Eye dies on pg. 78 Scrimgeour dies on pg. 159 Wormtail dies on pg. 471 Dobby dies on pg. 476 Snape dies on pg. 658 Fred Weasley dies on pg. 637 Harry gets ##%!ed up by Voldemort on pg. 704 but comes back to life on pg. 724 Tonks, Lupin, and Colin Creevy have their deaths confirmed on pg. 743 19 years after the events in the book: Ron has married Hermione, their two children are named Rose and Hugo Harry has married Ginny, their three children are named Lily, James, and Albus Severus. Draco Malfoy has a son named Scorpius The epilogue shows all of the children boarding the train for Hogwarts together. The final lines of the book are: "The scar had not pained Harry for 18 years. All was well." Plot Spoilers Part of Voldemort's soul was implanted into Harry whenever he used Ara Kadvara on him when he was a baby. Harry then sacrafices himself a la Lilly Potter style, which allows him to kill Voldemort without killing himself. He also has hacks (stone to bring him back to life, and an uber wand). Snape went to the good side (Hogwarts, etc.) because he was all emo that Voldemort killed Lilly Potter. Harry has three kids with Ginny. Ron and Hermoine fall in love. Not only a dork but a nerd as well. It's a good thing I've never seen any of them or I'd be sorta ****ed right about now. Ouch.
Dramaticus GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.07.18 19:26:00 - [286] Originally by: FarmerJimbo RESPECT ++ mad respect
Omorashi Gallente Medical Miners	Posted - 2007.07.18 19:26:00 - [287] Originally by: Speed Devil wow, in 8 hours replacing 300bil in assets? That why I wondered how they got replaced. Magical wand waving friends, or a tough face to show the world that they still have the backbone to defend against a assault of rookieships.
Dungar Loghoth Caldari Black Omega Security Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2007.07.18 19:27:00 - [288] Originally by: ProphetGuru This is the only official statement you will recieve from Evolution regarding this incident. Flatliner did indeed clean out several of our hangars. It was him, he was not hacked, and Evolution is not contesting this, crying h4x, or sploit. It was a legit theft. Flatliner has been a good friend of ours, and mine, for years. He used this friendship in an attempt to destroy us, for his own reasons. I know not the real reason behind this, and in truth, I don't care. What is done is done. Evolution has ample reserves and while noone would be stupid enough to sit here and claim a blow like this doesn't hurt ingame, the reality is that much of the assets lost have already been replaced, and this in no way affects the strength of Evolution, or BoB. I know the muppet brigade is salivating... and to you I say what Evolution always says. Bring it. This is a testament to the strength and attitude of those of us who are on this ride we call Evolution. Events like this destroy weak corps. Events like this strengthen strong corps. We'll continue to Evolve. We'll see. Current Evolution member count is 449 with an 80% tax rate.
Ikma Freizen	Posted - 2007.07.18 19:28:00 - [289] Edited by: Ikma Freizen on 18/07/2007 19:27:49 ---------
Yorda GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.07.18 19:29:00 - [290] Nicely done. I wish I had 300 bil. I would buy a new Machariel. That would be neato.
Jomin Herdsy GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.07.18 19:29:00 - [291] BoB doesn't do t1 math.

Elmo Pug Forum Moderator Interstellar Services Department	Posted - 2007.07.18 19:30:00 - [292] Topic has been cleaned up to this point. Stay on topic and don't troll or personally attack others. Off-topic posts, flmaes, and trolls will be removed and warnings issued. Leave the tinfoil off for this one folks. If you feel that the investigation wasn't handled properly, please feel free to send an email to Internal Affairs, not discuss it on the forums. Forum Rules \| CAOD Rules \| [email protected] \| Our Website

Barthezz Paradox v2.0 Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2007.07.18 19:31:00 - [293] BOB is probably IAC's biggest enemy, but still I cant wish this on them, I cant say this is a good thing. I can only say I wish Evolution a speedy recovery, both ingame but also real life. If its a corp theft due to people giving a 3-day new corp joiner all rights to all hangers, fine thats just stupid. But infiltration like this, abuse of trust, thats just wrong in so many ways. I'd feel violated if it happend to me. As such, I hope Evolution recovers from this.
Omorashi Gallente Medical Miners	Posted - 2007.07.18 19:32:00 - [294] Originally by: Elmo Pug Topic has been cleaned up to this point. Stay on topic and don't troll or personally attack others. Off-topic posts, flmaes, and trolls will be removed and warnings issued. What is a "flmaes" Is that Icelandic for something? I honestly don't know what it means.
Jacque Custeau Knights of the Minmatar Republic	Posted - 2007.07.18 19:33:00 - [295] Originally by: Elmo Pug Topic has been cleaned up to this point. Stay on topic and don't troll or personally attack others. Off-topic posts, flmaes, and trolls will be removed and warnings issued. Leave the tinfoil off for this one folks. If you feel that the investigation wasn't handled properly, please feel free to send an email to Internal Affairs, not discuss it on the forums. Thanks. I've sent IA an e-mail regarding you. Your acct will be suspended to see if it has been hacked and used to silence the truth. -------------------
Nocturnal Avenger The Ankou The Reckoning.	Posted - 2007.07.18 19:34:00 - [296] Originally by: DeathGrip And each corp should look at there members laughing about it in here, they are the ones you need to watch for in your corp. This only removes the most obvious threats... The real threats are those you never suspected :) Actually - I think it is amazing these things don't happen more often. - Carebear Pirate -
Beyond Horizon Black Omega Security	Posted - 2007.07.18 19:34:00 - [297] Originally by: NeVeH Originally by: Zeros Omega Originally by: Omorashi Wanted to buy: Some nice BPO's A couple of COMMAND SHIPS Three DREADNOUGHTS Four CARRIERS Five FREIGHTERS And SIX BATTLESHIPS. [Edited quote, removed extra spaces] snicker snicker seriously... I've seen us lose more then this in a single fleet battle, in which I died of 'course dictors being primary :(. I have also seen enemies (specifically the northern allied fleet in F-T cough). The BPO set (inless researched) is nothing more then a small annoyance, and I'm assuming its a T1 bpo set. AND last but not least to say... Someone commented on EVOL being a communist corporation, which it is. I would like to point out the following facts. EVOL has 449 members (as of post). Say half are alts, thats still around 224 members. Market cost of what was stolen as per that list 100b (and I'm being generous). Someone tell me about how much ISK then each person needs to make to recoup that loss? Yea, thats right, they would make nearly double that if they sent half their members to the belts to kill 1 battleship spawn... Mmm math, gotta love it. P.S. I think corp thievery is underhanded, peroid. Use of spy's is fine (off-lining POSs, aggro'ing titans, ect) but straight out stealing is bad! Delve has 1bil BS spawns talk about owned - BH
Beyond Horizon Black Omega Security	Posted - 2007.07.18 19:37:00 - [298] snip Trolling -Elmo Pug - BH

CCP Wrangler	Posted - 2007.07.18 19:37:00 - [299] Ok, some things need to be clarified. If you petition an account you suspect was hacked you won't actually get the account banned. There has to be other indications that the account was hacked for that to happen. If the account is banned for an investigation, you will get the time you lost reimbursed. And if you do petition an account for getting hacked just to get it banned you will be banned yourself instead. Just so we're clear on those issues. Second, if an account may be hacked there are two possibilities, either it was or it wasn't. If the account was hacked, we need to get the stuff back to the owner. I believe we're all on the same page so far. Now, if we can investigate this really fast, ban the account and take a few hours to do so, when the option would be to wait and give the hacker time to move around stolen items which we would then spend days tracking down, that is what we will do. It has nothing to do with threats or complaints, it has a lot to do with managing our time well. That is something we will do, we will continue to do and we will not apologize for doing it. We're helping ourselves and we're helping the players, it's a win win situation. So take off the tinfoil hats and move along. Wrangler Community Manager EVE Online Contact Support - Contact Moderators - Report Bug - Submit News Leads - Knowledge Base Player Guide - Policies - Join ISD - Fan Submissions - DevFinder LiteÖ

LordSlay Them Synergy. Imperial Republic Of the North	Posted - 2007.07.18 19:38:00 - [300] Considering that a member of BOB (Bella Fea) Hid an alt in my corp and lied to corp members for several months and then stole a pos in JU-0WQ, paving the way for a BOB invasion... I am struggling to find any sympathy for them having almost exactly the same thing happen to them. You reap what you sew.... It's great being Amarr isn't it.
Dungar Loghoth Caldari Black Omega Security Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2007.07.18 19:40:00 - [301] Remember how much stronger Lotka Voltera became when their titan was killed? I bet EVOL will be stronger by seven or eight magnitudes!
ponieus Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.07.18 19:40:00 - [302] Originally by: LordSlay Them Considering that a member of BOB (Bella Fea) Hid an alt in my corp and lied to corp members for several months and then stole a pos in JU-0WQ, paving the way for a BOB invasion... I am struggling to find any sympathy for them having almost exactly the same thing happen to them. You reap what you sew.... thou shalt not steal zydrine. im pretty sure thats the one I keep thinking of. Your signature exceeds the maximum allowed filesize of 24000 bytes -Sahwoolo Etoophie ([email protected])
Sebastien LeReparteur Minmatar Section XIII Tau Ceti Federation	Posted - 2007.07.18 19:40:00 - [303] Give us a break!!! All you guys saying Corp Theft is bad yet you all will bash to noob saying he got scammed trough contracts. For my self I say this is the best form of Scam Eve as to offer. This is no simple griefing of small players at gate camps. which no one here will say is bad. As anything else Evolution should have used a scout alt or at least manage their asset a bit better. Communism is not an excuse for laziness and carelessness. It is actually one of the society form that as to be the most monitored because it bases it self on humans which are flawed. So no sympathy for me at all. ----------- It is by will alone I set my mind in motion. It is by the juice of sapho that thoughts acquire speed, the lips acquire stains, the stains become a warning. It is by will alone...
Relaria Hossin GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.07.18 19:40:00 - [304] maths itt
Kirex Gallente Vale Heavy Industries Molotov Coalition	Posted - 2007.07.18 19:41:00 - [305]
Lookatmi Hooters	Posted - 2007.07.18 19:44:00 - [306] Doesn't anyone think this is a little too tidy, too clean cut? BoB gets stuff stolen, CCP devs out in force to confirm its legit. Virtually no BoB comments on any threads. CONSPIRACY!
Nicocat Caldari Uninvited Guests	Posted - 2007.07.18 19:45:00 - [307] Edited by: Nicocat on 18/07/2007 19:45:11 As a security nut, I lol when things are stolen from people that don't keep them locked away. I lol'd when STK was robbed, I lol'd when my own corpmates were robbed (don't leave ravens at POSes, it's silly, k?). I'm most certainly going to giggle uncontrollably at this new incident. As for those squealing about trust and friendship, for one, it's a game. For two, you're BoB, you hardly deserve trust, let alone friendship. And for three, don't trust anyone with director access farther than you can throw him =P Edit: Whoopie! New corp! ^^ Originally by: Splagada SEED ME DADDY Down with alts! One character per account per IP!
Nlewis GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.07.18 19:47:00 - [308] Originally by: Richard Aiel Originally by: Captain Thunk Originally by: Alice Cholmondeley I'm not really arguing that they didn't do the right thing. At the moment they only showed they will do the right thing when you spam, abuse and threaten CCP in general. I do not think it's behaviour that should be encouraged, which is what they are doing. ummm...yeah...it's pretty important that CCP does the right thing as often as possible for this game to work in their capacity as impartial gamesmasters If it takes threats and bullying to do that, then it's an unfortunate but necessary state of affairs. That said, CCP acted with full integrity in this instance. Most understand that if an account was hacked and billions stolen a great many items can be purchased very quickly, which in the event of them needing to be returned would be a logistical nightmare for those involved - not to mention the difficulties in explaining to sellers the reason why a transaction has been reversed and recovering the ISK (they themselves may have spent the ISK already) CCP has listened and acted in recent months. They state categorically if something is an exploit - examples being a firm decision made over POS bowling, stating via the news that neutral remote repping of POSs is an exploit immediately after revelations 2 patch when the problem was first discovered. This kind of behaviour is what people have been asking for and it's good work on CCP for listening and looking at ways to fix things to the benefit of everybody. It's a long road, but CCP are clearly trying their best and I think a great many players actually appreciate them for doing it and trust is beginning to rise once more. I don't see why you're so bitter about it, you seem to be a bit of a clunk to me. Captain Thunk So, everybody that gets petitioned gets instabanned till the full investigation is over? Seems to me with THIS policy Goonswarm could all KINDS of havoc... Thatd be even worse than the thread thingy they did MUHAHAAHHAHAH
Myz Toyou Rionnag Alba Triumvirate.	Posted - 2007.07.18 19:48:00 - [309] Edited by: Myz Toyou on 18/07/2007 19:49:36 I would like to offer Evol a Proton Large BPO original to help cover the loss, please contact me if you interested for contract details. On the other side..... muhahahahahahahahahaahahahaha It seems that the "Pendulum" of social engeneering made a whole loop and hits for max. dmg CYVOK > All you station jockies better get out their and start killing these idiots
LordSlay Them Synergy. Imperial Republic Of the North	Posted - 2007.07.18 19:48:00 - [310] Originally by: ponieus Originally by: LordSlay Them Considering that a member of BOB (Bella Fea) Hid an alt in my corp and lied to corp members for several months and then stole a pos in JU-0WQ, paving the way for a BOB invasion... I am struggling to find any sympathy for them having almost exactly the same thing happen to them. You reap what you sew.... thou shalt not steal zydrine. im pretty sure thats the one I keep thinking of. I liked you guys better when you lived in Fade. That's the one i keep thinking of It's great being Amarr isn't it.
Xanja 2H Industries	Posted - 2007.07.18 19:50:00 - [311] First off, yeah that is probably quite the heist and well done to Flatliner for pulling it off. On the big scale of things this sure is a major distraction to BoB but hardly game-stopping or failure cascading. BoB: another challenge, tackle it! Goons: Keep your eyes on the price, there's still plenty of xxxx to push in -----------------
Comstr Technology Acquisition Collective Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2007.07.18 19:53:00 - [312] I don't approve of spies or thieves. However, I fully approve of kicking BoB so it's down. This is a bell ringing, ringing Freedom across the galaxy. To BoB: HA HA HA HA HA he he he HA HA HA HA ROFL.
FieldDocter	Posted - 2007.07.18 19:59:00 - [313] snip Posting with an unidentified character and / or characters in NPC corporations in this forum is prohibited. If you wish to participate in the discussions here, be sure to have your corporation and or alliance status ticked in your forum settings. -Elmo Pug ([email protected])
Commander Vimes	Posted - 2007.07.18 20:00:00 - [314] snip Posting with an unidentified character and / or characters in NPC corporations in this forum is prohibited. If you wish to participate in the discussions here, be sure to have your corporation and or alliance status ticked in your forum settings. -Elmo Pug ([email protected])
Prydeless Vengeance of the Fallen Curse Alliance	Posted - 2007.07.18 20:01:00 - [315] I would say this is Karma catching up to mr. molle and his band of brothers Disclaimer: I am a God.
sakana North Eastern Swat Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2007.07.18 20:02:00 - [316] This is obviously a CIA plot to stamp out communism where ever it be found... ------------
Althulas Stormbred GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.07.18 20:04:00 - [317] Edited by: Althulas Stormbred on 18/07/2007 20:03:47 Maybe this could be a weekly occurence. ------------------------------------------------------------------------
Orree Gallente Shiva Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2007.07.18 20:04:00 - [318] Originally by: Relaria Hossin Originally by: Orree Clearly we play the game for different reasons. That's fine. Understandable. Perfectly acceptable. If having a set of principles and sticking to them makes me crazy, then so be it. I'm not even talking about anyone's principles, I'm talking about how such a broad range of actions and consequences are available to us on such a vast scale. In this game it is possible to do SO much, both good and bad. The diversity of the interactions capable in EVE makes it strikingly close to real life, except in the end it is still just a game, which is what makes playing it so great. Point taken. To be honest...I have to agree with you on that aspect of this. While I don't personally engage in such activities, they are part of the collection of charms that are EVE. Part of why I continue to read this thread is to see if an inventory of what was taken is ever posted. Call it a sort of morbid curiosity. "How much easier it is to be critical than to be correct." ---Benjamin Disraeli
Evil SpongeBob GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.07.18 20:04:00 - [319] Originally by: Dungar Loghoth Remember how much stronger Lotka Voltera became when their titan was killed? I bet EVOL will be stronger by seven or eight magnitudes! I wish someone would steal all my stuff. I need to become 7-8 times as strong.
Misses Gap Caldari The Lantern Mining Corporation	Posted - 2007.07.18 20:05:00 - [320] Was the person who falsely claimed that those 100dreds of billions were obtained with illegit meta - ways banned or not ? Gap Attention you need. Children play in the snow aloud. The cat has been podded!
Shamis Orzoz Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2007.07.18 20:06:00 - [321] Originally by: CCP Wrangler If you petition an account you suspect was hacked you won't actually get the account banned. There has to be other indications that the account was hacked for that to happen. If the account is banned for an investigation, you will get the time you lost reimbursed. And if you do petition an account for getting hacked just to get it banned you will be banned yourself instead. Just so we're clear on those issues. Does that mean you're gonna ban Digi for all his false accusations claiming Kugutsumen was hacking accounts?
Flinx Evenstar Minmatar Spartan Industries Cruel Intentions	Posted - 2007.07.18 20:09:00 - [322] Edited by: Flinx Evenstar on 18/07/2007 20:14:42 Originally by: Misses Gap Was the person who falsely claimed that those 100dreds of billions were obtained with illegit meta - ways banned or not ? Gap Of course not..I hate to defend BOB, but when a guy you've known for 4 years suddenly empties the corp hangers, they had a legitimate reason to suspect that he might have been hacked. EVOL acknowledged the theft, CCP investigated and found no wrong doings. We can all laugh or sympathise about this one, but leave the tin foil out Edit: @Shamis, while being given an entire SQL dump of BOBs forums is not "hacking", that is what it looked like to BOB, so again I have to say that their complaint was legit. (this is well covered, and OT, so will prob be snipped ) I, erm, like kill things and stuff

CCP Wrangler	Posted - 2007.07.18 20:09:00 - [323] Originally by: Misses Gap Was the person who falsely claimed that those 100dreds of billions were obtained with illegit meta - ways banned or not ? Gap Those kinds of issues are between us (CCP) and the person involved, we do not release that kind of information to third parties. Wrangler Community Manager EVE Online Contact Support - Contact Moderators - Report Bug - Submit News Leads - Knowledge Base Player Guide - Policies - Join ISD - Fan Submissions - DevFinder LiteÖ

Splagada Minmatar Tides of Silence Hydra Alliance	Posted - 2007.07.18 20:14:00 - [324] No BoB BBQ for j00! ------
Lady Gwynneth	Posted - 2007.07.18 20:20:00 - [325] Edited by: Lady Gwynneth on 18/07/2007 20:20:57 Edited by: Lady Gwynneth on 18/07/2007 20:20:10 Originally by: Sebastien LeReparteur Give us a break!!! All you guys saying Corp Theft is bad yet you all will bash to noob saying he got scammed trough contracts. For my self I say this is the best form of Scam Eve as to offer. This is no simple griefing of small players at gate camps. which no one here will say is bad. As anything else Evolution should have used a scout alt or at least manage their asset a bit better. Communism is not an excuse for laziness and carelessness. It is actually one of the society form that as to be the most monitored because it bases it self on humans which are flawed. So no sympathy for me at all. Theft is nothing where somebody can be proud of. No matter how much the damage finally was. Was it a special performance of this guy having robbed so much ? Did he have a special expertise ? No ! He simply had the luck to be in a big rich corp. Finally it could have been everybody in this corp who would have had such a rank there. So was it a special performance of this guy himself to make such a robbery ? No ! So I do not understand in any way, why people make such a hype about this unpleasent person. But even this is topped by those, who extended this evident, by pasting corp internal information to the outside world using CCP forum. This is most disgusting and beyond every game mechanic. Corp internal discussion, be it from internal corp forums or from IRC should not made public. And CCP shouldn't simply ignore it. This I find very condemnable. I'm the opineon CCP makes a mistake, letting all this happen without any counter measure. This all opens the door for letting people think, that really all is allowed in this game and on this forum no matter how bad something really is. If CCP doesn't stop this up to a certain level, I think on the long run they make themself guilty of a certain complicity in these matters. I feel ashamed, if I see, that all this here becomes ºheroically worshiped" and CCP simply o.k.'s this by doing nothing. They only confirm that it was a robbery and not hacking of their systems. Excuse me, what a **** ! O.K. this place (eve) surely doesn't need to be a pleasent place, its a PvP platform. But at least I would demand from CCP, that they do not allow, that corp internal stuff will be published over their forums, even if this information surely is amusing. But come on its beyond the limits folks ! And CCP ... don't be so disgusting "lazy" in this matter !
doctorstupid2 Dirty Deeds Corp. Axiom Empire	Posted - 2007.07.18 20:20:00 - [326] Originally by: Flinx Evenstar Edited by: Flinx Evenstar on 18/07/2007 20:14:42 Originally by: Misses Gap Was the person who falsely claimed that those 100dreds of billions were obtained with illegit meta - ways banned or not ? Gap Of course not..I hate to defend BOB, but when a guy you've known for 4 years suddenly empties the corp hangers, they had a legitimate reason to suspect that he might have been hacked. EVOL acknowledged the theft, CCP investigated and found no wrong doings. We can all laugh or sympathise about this one, but leave the tin foil out Flinx, as long as I've known you (by "known" I of course mean "have been exchanging munitions with") you've always had a pretty level head and a distinct lack of tinfoilery. Keep it up, I agree fully. Steel Rat > if they only knew we make this **** up as we go
AegriSomnia Caldari Battlestars GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.07.18 20:21:00 - [327] WELL WELL WELL Usually I dont GLOAT, but since I got such NEGATIVE comments when I posted about REMEDIALS theft I THOUGHT IT WOULD BE APPROPRIATE IF I SAID : LOLOLOLLOLOLOLOLOLOLLOLOOLOLOLLOLOLOLLOLOLLOLOLOLOLOLOLLOLOLOLOLOOLOLOLLOOL BoB is a joke. BTW, How is Omist?? I heard its nice there.......... Originally by: grayson 34 Thank you for yall's advice, and a special thanks to AegriSomnia for reminding me that there are still ***holes in the world.
Schlieren Altiprlayle GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.07.18 20:23:00 - [328] Originally by: Goberth Ludwig So has the thief said any about the why? - Gob this is the only interesting part maybe also the notion that communal asset losses dont mean much of anything if they dont affect gameplay if you had 5 trillion in assets, with weekly costs of 12 billion and weekly income of 16 billion, then lose 300 billion, it really wouldnt matter much except on the ledger and lets not forget that goonswarm participation INCREASED after remedial stole the titan fund, so as far as human nature goes this isnt necessarily some sort of psychic blow ____________________________ stop posting
Heisenburg Principle	Posted - 2007.07.18 20:23:00 - [329] LOL BoB massive corp theft i nearly wet myself laughing, can i have a billion please thief?
Justor JeiGallo GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.07.18 20:23:00 - [330] Props to CCP for finally communicating with the player base and being more transparent about their methods. And yeah OP whatcha got for sale?
Moon Kitten Gallente GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.07.18 20:25:00 - [331] I hope you will recover from this sad event.
M4sterm1nd DarkStar 1 GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.07.18 20:26:00 - [332] Bit outta left field here, but has anyone considered this may simply be a diversionary tactic? That the funds and assets transferred were not stolen, but simply flushed into a new corp? That BoB's recent weakening is really only a symptom of their moulting into a new collective, free from the stigma that surrounded the old? A corp theft (especially with attached questionnable bannage scandal incited by a petition) of this size would be the ideal way to do that. If it's theft, then it sucks, all the more cuz it was a four-year friendship that took the hit. But if this is indeed a lateral move, then points for complexity, AND for follow-through! I cant wait to see what they do next!
Sebastien LeReparteur Minmatar Section XIII Tau Ceti Federation	Posted - 2007.07.18 20:26:00 - [333] Originally by: Lady Gwynneth Edited by: Lady Gwynneth on 18/07/2007 20:20:57 Edited by: Lady Gwynneth on 18/07/2007 20:20:10 Originally by: Sebastien LeReparteur Give us a break!!! All you guys saying Corp Theft is bad yet you all will bash to noob saying he got scammed trough contracts. For my self I say this is the best form of Scam Eve as to offer. This is no simple griefing of small players at gate camps. which no one here will say is bad. As anything else Evolution should have used a scout alt or at least manage their asset a bit better. Communism is not an excuse for laziness and carelessness. It is actually one of the society form that as to be the most monitored because it bases it self on humans which are flawed. So no sympathy for me at all. Theft is nothing where somebody can be proud of. No matter how much the damage finally was. Was it a special performance of this guy having robbed so much ? Did he have a special expertise ? No ! He simply had the luck to be in a big rich corp. Finally it could have been everybody in this corp who would have had such a rank there. So was it a special performance of this guy himself to make such a robbery ? No ! So I do not understand in any way, why people make such a hype about this unpleasent person. But even this is topped by those, who extended this evident, by pasting corp internal information to the outside world using CCP forum. This is most disgusting and beyond every game mechanic. Corp internal discussion, be it from internal corp forums or from IRC should not made public. And CCP shouldn't simply ignore it. This I find very condemnable. I'm the opineon CCP makes a mistake, letting all this happen without any counter measure. This all opens the door for letting people think, that really all is allowed in this game and on this forum no matter how bad something really is. If CCP doesn't stop this up to a certain level, I think on the long run they make themself guilty of a certain complicity in these matters. I feel ashamed, if I see, that all this here becomes ºheroically worshiped" and CCP simply o.k.'s this by doing nothing. They only confirm that it was a robbery and not hacking of their systems. Excuse me, what a ** ! O.K. this place (eve) surely doesn't need to be a pleasent place, its a PvP platform. But at least I would demand from CCP, that they do not allow, that corp internal stuff will be published over their forums, even if this information surely is amusing. But come on its beyond the limits folks ! And CCP ... don't be so disgusting "lazy" in this matter ! External Site and tool security is the responsibility of said external entity. If heads have to roll it is strictly within Bob's organization. CCP as nothing to do with those external sites.** ----------- It is by will alone I set my mind in motion. It is by the juice of sapho that thoughts acquire speed, the lips acquire stains, the stains become a warning. It is by will alone...
Havoc GunStar GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.07.18 20:26:00 - [334] Originally by: Lady Gwynneth This all opens the door for letting people think, that really all is allowed in this game and on this forum no matter how bad something really is. If CCP doesn't stop this up to a certain level, I think on the long run they make themself guilty of a certain complicity in these matters. I don't know about you, but when I started playing, on the box, I'm pretty sure it described a 'thief' and pirates, and all sorts of neer-do-wells as some of the possibilities for character playstyles. I'm pretty sure CCP not only allows, but also condones this behavior. You might want to try another game if that doesn't sit well with you. Sig removed. If you would like further details please mail [email protected] with a link to your signature. - Elmo Pug
Wayward Hooligan Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2007.07.18 20:26:00 - [335] Can we have some cheap dreads? We'll handle transport.
Misses Gap Caldari The Lantern Mining Corporation	Posted - 2007.07.18 20:26:00 - [336] Originally by: CCP Wrangler Originally by: Misses Gap Was the person who falsely claimed that those 100dreds of billions were obtained with illegit meta - ways banned or not ? Gap Those kinds of issues are between us (CCP) and the person involved, we do not release that kind of information to third parties. /me nods * Fair enough, given the past incidents that involve BoB and Goons. I am convinced you understand that reading how a fellow player gets temporarily banned due to false testimony can concern other parties. Given that fair compensation and chance to prove innocence was given to the innocently banned I believe your course of action may be the least damaging. Gap Attention you need. Children play in the snow aloud. The cat has been podded!
Flinx Evenstar Minmatar Spartan Industries Cruel Intentions	Posted - 2007.07.18 20:28:00 - [337] Originally by: Schlieren Altiprlayle Originally by: Goberth Ludwig So has the thief said any about the why? - Gob this is the only interesting part QFT. btw Goonswarm, are your new sigs parodies of the Outbreak ones by any chance I, erm, like kill things and stuff
AZIK Caldari Confrerie	Posted - 2007.07.18 20:30:00 - [338] Originally by: Danton Marcellus I'm guessing someone just poked the sleeping lobbyists and we'll have proper corporate security come next major patch. Karma I guess. It'll be interesting to see a soap on Flatliners life after this with the ganksquad tracking him down wherever he goes. I'd also be wary buying any of these goods from Flatliner as he's just as likely to pull a double fakey with carriers on top. Dosen't matter, with that much isk he can officially retire flatliner and buy any alt off the boards he wants
Hammertime24 Valiant Logistics Inc. Storm Armada	Posted - 2007.07.18 20:30:00 - [339] bummer
Jet Max Gallente JuBa Corp	Posted - 2007.07.18 20:31:00 - [340] Taking recent events in the world of gaming, i kinda feel sorry for the thief. With technology we have these days its not hard to find out where person lives. And seeing how serious some people are about gaming, i would be a bit worried about my teeth
FarmerJimbo GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.07.18 20:31:00 - [341] Originally by: Flinx Evenstar Originally by: Schlieren Altiprlayle Originally by: Goberth Ludwig So has the thief said any about the why? - Gob this is the only interesting part QFT. btw Goonswarm, are your new sigs parodies of the Outbreak ones by any chance Certainly not.
Rhaegor Stormborn Sturmgrenadier Inc R i s e	Posted - 2007.07.18 20:32:00 - [342] Originally by: M4sterm1nd Bit outta left field here, but has anyone considered this may simply be a diversionary tactic? That the funds and assets transferred were not stolen, but simply flushed into a new corp? That BoB's recent weakening is really only a symptom of their moulting into a new collective, free from the stigma that surrounded the old? A corp theft (especially with attached questionnable bannage scandal incited by a petition) of this size would be the ideal way to do that. I actually did (do?) think it may be a ploy of some sort. RISE Recruitment Thread
Avaleric Amarr The Eschatologists	Posted - 2007.07.18 20:33:00 - [343] This wasn't just simple theft. This was a heist of a grand nature. Long in planning, brilliantly executed. People talk of disloyalty here; this had nothing to do with disloyalty. This was a corporate attack. You have no loyalty towards your enemies. Well done. I HOPE you are NOT planning to ransom the loot back... - Ignorance is bliss...
Jayad HIVE O X I D E	Posted - 2007.07.18 20:35:00 - [344] although my political affiliations are anti-bob, i think its some kinda thing to abuse YEARS of trust. I just find that amazing All sorts out there i guess
Justor JeiGallo GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.07.18 20:36:00 - [345] Originally by: Flinx Evenstar Originally by: Schlieren Altiprlayle Originally by: Goberth Ludwig So has the thief said any about the why? - Gob this is the only interesting part QFT. btw Goonswarm, are your new sigs parodies of the Outbreak ones by any chance We're advertising our upcoming photospread in the next issue of EON. True story.
Audri Fisher Caldari VentureCorp Imperial Republic Of the North	Posted - 2007.07.18 20:36:00 - [346] Originally by: Zeros Omega Originally by: Omorashi Wanted to buy: Some nice BPO's A couple of COMMAND SHIPS Three DREADNOUGHTS Four CARRIERS Five FREIGHTERS And SIX BATTLESHIPS. [Edited quote, removed extra spaces] snicker snicker seriously... I've seen us lose more then this in a single fleet battle, in which I died of 'course dictors being primary :(. I have also seen enemies (specifically the northern allied fleet in F-T cough). The BPO set (inless researched) is nothing more then a small annoyance, and I'm assuming its a T1 bpo set. AND last but not least to say... Someone commented on EVOL being a communist corporation, which it is. I would like to point out the following facts. EVOL has 449 members (as of post). Say half are alts, thats still around 224 members. Market cost of what was stolen as per that list 100b (and I'm being generous). Someone tell me about how much ISK then each person needs to make to recoup that loss? Yea, thats right, they would make nearly double that if they sent half their members to the belts to kill 1 battleship spawn... Mmm math, gotta love it. P.S. I think corp thievery is underhanded, peroid. Use of spy's is fine (off-lining POSs, aggro'ing titans, ect) but straight out stealing is bad! erm, by my numbers, you need to kill 55,556 1.8 mil battleships to get 100 bil.... Start ratting!
ceaon Gallente Porandor N E X O	Posted - 2007.07.18 20:36:00 - [347] oh dear CCP why u make "preventing" like Bush ? banning ppl if not guilty is kinda abuse to me :SSS BC one
Lizhia Gallente Macabre Votum	Posted - 2007.07.18 20:36:00 - [348] Originally by: Rhaegor Stormborn Originally by: M4sterm1nd Bit outta left field here, but has anyone considered this may simply be a diversionary tactic? That the funds and assets transferred were not stolen, but simply flushed into a new corp? That BoB's recent weakening is really only a symptom of their moulting into a new collective, free from the stigma that surrounded the old? A corp theft (especially with attached questionnable bannage scandal incited by a petition) of this size would be the ideal way to do that. I actually did (do?) think it may be a ploy of some sort. If it is they made CCP look quite the fool.
Scatim Helicon GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.07.18 20:37:00 - [349] Now THAT is how you cash in your loyalty points in style.
Leon Czolgosz Amarr Eve University Ivy League	Posted - 2007.07.18 20:39:00 - [350] Edited by: Leon Czolgosz on 18/07/2007 20:41:04 Edited by: Leon Czolgosz on 18/07/2007 20:40:38 Originally by: CCP Wrangler Ok, some things need to be clarified. If you petition an account you suspect was hacked you won't actually get the account banned. There has to be other indications that the account was hacked for that to happen. If the account is banned for an investigation, you will get the time you lost reimbursed. And if you do petition an account for getting hacked just to get it banned you will be banned yourself instead. Just so we're clear on those issues. Good to know. I'm no fan of BoB and the theft makes me , but I think CCP has handled this correctly. Thief steals billions. Theft is legal in Eve, but hacking isn't. Thief was longtime trusted member of the corporation. Could thief have been hacked? No hacking. Enjoy your billions, thief, you're free to go. I wonder how long it will take the newbie who buys Flatliner [50 million skill point character for TWENTY ISK!!!] to wonder why every new player has a fleet of black ops hostile recon ships following him around.
joefishy S.A.S Cruel Intentions	Posted - 2007.07.18 20:40:00 - [351] i wonder if bob even know about this theft seeing as 100 of there core members are currently in a random part of denmark drinking and eating in middle of woods. at the bob bbq
Flinx Evenstar Minmatar Spartan Industries Cruel Intentions	Posted - 2007.07.18 20:41:00 - [352] Edited by: Flinx Evenstar on 18/07/2007 20:42:32 Originally by: doctorstupid2 Flinx, as long as I've known you (by "known" I of course mean "have been exchanging munitions with") you've always had a pretty level head and a distinct lack of tinfoilery. Keep it up, I agree fully. You love exchanging munitions with me you dirty minx As you probably can guess, this theft did make me smile a little, but tbh, I still hate this sort of thing. It requires very little skill, anyone can click "select all" and drag contents. The Tigerante event, equally nasty, required far more skill in planning. I, erm, like kill things and stuff
Stamm Amarr Three Holdings Rule of Three	Posted - 2007.07.18 20:43:00 - [353] ATTN : Eve TV. Want to sell more product? Get the dirty details on this, in detail, interview the culprit and SirMolle/some Evol director. Stick it into your next episode. Profit! Galaxian Recruitment Info
Fortuk Monmouth MetaForge Ekliptika	Posted - 2007.07.18 20:44:00 - [354] Originally by: ProphetGuru This is the only official statement you will recieve from Evolution regarding this incident. Flatliner did indeed clean out several of our hangars. It was him, he was not hacked, and Evolution is not contesting this, crying h4x, or sploit. It was a legit theft. Flatliner has been a good friend of ours, and mine, for years. He used this friendship in an attempt to destroy us, for his own reasons. I know not the real reason behind this, and in truth, I don't care. What is done is done. Evolution has ample reserves and while noone would be stupid enough to sit here and claim a blow like this doesn't hurt ingame, the reality is that much of the assets lost have already been replaced, and this in no way affects the strength of Evolution, or BoB. I know the muppet brigade is salivating... and to you I say what Evolution always says. Bring it. This is a testament to the strength and attitude of those of us who are on this ride we call Evolution. Events like this destroy weak corps. Events like this strengthen strong corps. We'll continue to Evolve. Of course you will evolve, right into a smaller corp. Stealing is bad in RL, it isnt as bad in eve, because this game makes it possible for that, which is why eve is so cool. GG flatliner, you get 2 thumbs up from me. ----------------------------------------------------------------- Sc0rpion > wont argue about the raven though..."hi we're ccp and
Incantare Caldari Darkness Inc.	Posted - 2007.07.18 20:44:00 - [355] Hilarious sigs.
doctorstupid2 Dirty Deeds Corp. Axiom Empire	Posted - 2007.07.18 20:44:00 - [356] Edited by: doctorstupid2 on 18/07/2007 20:46:14 Originally by: Flinx Evenstar Originally by: doctorstupid2 Flinx, as long as I've known you (by "known" I of course mean "have been exchanging munitions with") you've always had a pretty level head and a distinct lack of tinfoilery. Keep it up, I agree fully. You love exchanging munitions with me you dirty minx As you probably can guess, this theft did make me smile a little, but tbh, I still hate this sort of thing. It requires very little skill, anyone can "click select" all and drag contents. The Tigerante event, equally nasty, required far more skill in planning. Yeah, I got a pretty good giggle out of the goon titan fund and the smartbombing covops spy, so I decided not to get all preachy on this one about how it's not cool or funny. Happens to everyone I guess. Steel Rat > if they only knew we make this **** up as we go
Evil Thug Rage and Terror Against ALL Authorities	Posted - 2007.07.18 20:46:00 - [357] Originally by: Incantare Hilarious sigs. QFT !
Rochel Hakiri principle of motion Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2007.07.18 20:48:00 - [358] Originally by: slothe corp theft sucks whoever the corp or alliance stolen from. i think that anyone laughing at bob may well regret doing so as from personal experience i know that bob corps have tenacious spirits and will not rest until their enemies are destroyed. ghehe we're dead for months, but we (still) don't know it yet! (posting in an epic thread)
PMBhauler Pod Me Beautiful	Posted - 2007.07.18 20:52:00 - [359] Goons made my day with their new sigs. LOL And even though i dont like corp theft...this one make me smile a little Still waiting on the list of what was stolen (unless i missed it)
Moon Kitten Gallente GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.07.18 20:56:00 - [360] Originally by: Stamm ATTN : Eve TV. Want to sell more product? Get the dirty details on this, in detail, interview the culprit and SirMolle/some Evol director. Stick it into your next episode. Profit! I'd like to see an interview with remedial myself. They could have a scamming special report.
Caldess 0utbreak	Posted - 2007.07.18 20:56:00 - [361] lulz @ sigs
Caeser Khan Caldari Porta Igneus	Posted - 2007.07.18 20:58:00 - [362] Anyone here from the thief on details yet? We have seen a cut and pasted chat only which could be fake? We hear 100-300b ISK worth of the theft? Wheres the details? If I pulled off the BIGGEST corp heist in EVE history I'ld have screenshots & auctions going on the sec I was reinstated. Here is why I think there's more to it. 1.)Thats HELLUVA ~!!!~ lot of stuff to move solo. 2.)BoB is crafty might be faked to lore Goons/RA, and who ever else into offensive to reveal poss titan/capship fleets to destroy in those systems of the victimed POS's. 3.)Faked to get some much needed "We are the victim, POOR us Love" to soften that Stalenist/Soveit imgage BoB rocks. 4.)Or they did really get SCREWED... By a well planned U~ber attack without a shot fired. Eve TV really needs to do some coverage on all the shady biz in EVE like a docu-drama style that would be funny. This is all very entertaining.
Kayleigh Lothian Minmatar KIA Corp KIA Alliance	Posted - 2007.07.18 20:58:00 - [363] Edited by: Kayleigh Lothian on 18/07/2007 21:00:49 Originally by: Hohne Originally by: Zeros Omega Originally by: Cougem Originally by: Zeros Omega what i said Sorry, you've lost me... 100b between 200 players = half a bil each. You make half a bil from a BS spawn? Or am I missing something? 1 BS spawn = 10m ISK w/salvage & loot generally (thats a triple spawn of 1.5+) So, they would have to each kill 5-6 spawns... Every heard of the use of over-exaggerating? You're still doing it? 10m with loot and slavage? Try 2 unless you have T2 BS spawns... and 2 is generously assuming you've found a good one. Try 10-20m/hr. Which makes it more like 250 spawns and 25+ hrs ea. You Sir fail at math. Or reading, or perhaps both. How can a tripple 1.5+ mill spawn only yield 2 mill with loot and salvage? I must say that no spawn I have come a cross has had loot and salvage worth negative isk figures. I must say that I hate corp theft, had it a former corp but it turned out rather well but I still hate it.
Vahl Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.07.18 20:59:00 - [364] Edited by: Vahl on 18/07/2007 21:05:02 Originally by: Caeser Khan 2.)BoB is crafty might be faked to lore Goons/RA, and who ever else into offensive to reveal poss titan/capship fleets to destroy in those systems of the victimed POS's. 3.)Faked to get some much needed "We are the victim, POOR us Love" to soften that Stalenist/Soveit imgage BoB rocks. Wishful thinking. Now you realize that evil will always triumph because good is dumb.
FireFoxx80 Caldari E X O D U S Imperial Republic Of the North	Posted - 2007.07.18 21:02:00 - [365] This is the stuff that GHSC would be proud of. What I do the rest of the time - Vote for a Jita bypass!
Tetsujin GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.07.18 21:06:00 - [366] great thread
M4sterm1nd DarkStar 1 GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.07.18 21:09:00 - [367] Originally by: Lizhia Originally by: Rhaegor Stormborn Originally by: M4sterm1nd Bit outta left field here, but has anyone considered this may simply be a diversionary tactic? That the funds and assets transferred were not stolen, but simply flushed into a new corp? That BoB's recent weakening is really only a symptom of their moulting into a new collective, free from the stigma that surrounded the old? A corp theft (especially with attached questionnable bannage scandal incited by a petition) of this size would be the ideal way to do that. I actually did (do?) think it may be a ploy of some sort. If it is they made CCP look quite the fool. It's by far too good to be true, but it's a fun notion to entertain whilst waiting for more anti-ccp anti-GM ant-thisthatandtheother garbage to laugh at I mean we've all seen social engineering taken to alluring heights tips hat to GHSC, but to make the petition process, the new investigation directives, and the threadnaught pawns in this mighty scheme.... wow.
TBONE 9th Vengeance of the Fallen Curse Alliance	Posted - 2007.07.18 21:15:00 - [368] think im going to shed a tear for bob! not so much! Hilarious!
Tetsujin GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.07.18 21:16:00 - [369] Originally by: Flinx Evenstar btw Goonswarm, are your new sigs parodies of the Outbreak ones by any chance no this is just what we look like irl.
Frederick Skinner GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.07.18 21:20:00 - [370] Originally by: FarmerJimbo Originally by: Flinx Evenstar Originally by: Schlieren Altiprlayle Originally by: Goberth Ludwig So has the thief said any about the why? - Gob this is the only interesting part QFT. btw Goonswarm, are your new sigs parodies of the Outbreak ones by any chance Certainly not. ya, parody sigs are so last month
shivan Rampage Eternal Ka-Tet	Posted - 2007.07.18 21:21:00 - [371] Edited by: shivan on 18/07/2007 21:23:02 I just want to say one thing about this... hahahaahahahahahahaahahahahahaha. TBH, how BoB have played this game for a long time, it was only a matter of time untill they got a dose of their own medicince. Oh well, c'est la vie. Originally by: CCP Wrangler Random stuff about this theft. Shouldn't you have your corp or alliance ticker showing? If they are not, won't you have your posts edited for being an alt? ------------------ RAM KB
Innominate GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.07.18 21:23:00 - [372] Communism doesn't work.
shivan Rampage Eternal Ka-Tet	Posted - 2007.07.18 21:24:00 - [373] Originally by: Innominate Communism doesn't work. Well it did, untill someone thought they would take the whole cookie jar rather than just a cookie. ------------------ RAM KB
Tomic Viper Squad Triumvirate.	Posted - 2007.07.18 21:25:00 - [374] So, we gonna get to see a pic of the stolen stuff?
shivan Rampage Eternal Ka-Tet	Posted - 2007.07.18 21:28:00 - [375] Originally by: Tomic Edited by: Tomic on 18/07/2007 21:25:12 So, we gonna get to see a pic of the stolen stuff? EDIT: Preferrably one that doesn't get moderated in 5 minutes. I second this motion. ------------------ RAM KB
Bluestealth Minmatar BlueLabs	Posted - 2007.07.18 21:29:00 - [376] Originally by: shivan Originally by: Innominate Communism doesn't work. Well it did, untill someone thought they would take the whole cookie jar rather than just a cookie. Anyways, Karma's a *****.
Kasak Black The Collective Against ALL Authorities	Posted - 2007.07.18 21:30:00 - [377] Edited by: Kasak Black on 18/07/2007 21:34:14 Man I love this game. Could not have happened to anyone more deserving.
Capt Rob Minmatar Black Omega Security Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2007.07.18 21:31:00 - [378] Edited by: Capt Rob on 18/07/2007 21:31:55 Originally by: shivan Originally by: Tomic Edited by: Tomic on 18/07/2007 21:25:12 So, we gonna get to see a pic of the stolen stuff? EDIT: Preferrably one that doesn't get moderated in 5 minutes. I second this motion. I third this motion Also, corp theif is pretty low but because evol are commies, They prob had it coming for that alone.
Nocturnal Avenger The Ankou The Reckoning.	Posted - 2007.07.18 21:34:00 - [379] Originally by: Audri Fisher erm, by my numbers, you need to kill 55,556 1.8 mil battleships to get 100 bil.... Start ratting! Exactly! Or 54055 1.85M BS aka 18019 tripple 1.85M spawns (loot/rigs excluded) - Carebear Pirate -
TrevorReznik Merch Industrial We Are Nice Guys	Posted - 2007.07.18 21:34:00 - [380] So when are we going to see the real proof, that's so conveniently hidden away behind something resembling a towel?
Mel Keslan Merch Industrial We Are Nice Guys	Posted - 2007.07.18 21:46:00 - [381] Couldn't have happened to a nicer Band of Brothas.
Barkode Fourth Dimension	Posted - 2007.07.18 21:57:00 - [382] Originally by: Innominate Communism doesn't work. And yet you are allied with RA.
welsh wizard 0utbreak	Posted - 2007.07.18 21:58:00 - [383] mooooooooooooooooooooooo!! DAMN! Wrong thread!? :(
Bozl1n Caldari Shiva Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2007.07.18 21:58:00 - [384] Couldnt have happened to a more loyal corp...... Hows it feel to be the 1 backstabbed mouldy? Made my day Sig returned after a victory with the appeal \o/ ;)~
boyeatscake GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.07.18 22:03:00 - [385] my heart goes out to the honorable captains of evol, this is a travesty
Virida Mindstar Technology United Confederation of Corporations	Posted - 2007.07.18 22:07:00 - [386] Its a sad day seeing Band of Brothers suffer same fate as their older enemies, hope we in future can have relations, either hostile as pvp oponents, or as allies, with a healthy Evolution. This is not the official MNDS point of view, of couse, but it is a sad day seeing old friends who has flewn, pvped, and maybe even had real life relations, steal from each other. And as a greeting to the sad leader from a scandinavian, i share some famous last words from a contryman of him, a world famous chef: "Yorn desh born, der ritt de gitt der gue, Orn desh, dee born desh, de umn b°rk! b°rk! b°rk!"
Havoc GunStar GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.07.18 22:08:00 - [387] Originally by: Barkode Originally by: Innominate Communism doesn't work. And yet you are allied with RA. Well, we are also living in this century.
Plim Gallente Celestial Apocalypse Insurgency	Posted - 2007.07.18 22:08:00 - [388] Originally by: CCP Wrangler Ok, some things need to be clarified. If you petition an account you suspect was hacked you won't actually get the account banned. There has to be other indications that the account was hacked for that to happen. So what was the evidence that the account was hacked in this case? Rudolf: "I was sworn to absolute secrecy by Santa Claus."
MuthaTrucka Amarr Celestial Horizon Corp. Valainaloce	Posted - 2007.07.18 22:10:00 - [389] Originally by: Plim Originally by: CCP Wrangler Ok, some things need to be clarified. If you petition an account you suspect was hacked you won't actually get the account banned. There has to be other indications that the account was hacked for that to happen. So what was the evidence that the account was hacked in this case? We have "evolved" Past petty things like corp Thievery? --------------- Don't Call me a Carebear, I don't really care about much at all.
Anders Kraneled GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.07.18 22:14:00 - [390] Originally by: Plim Originally by: CCP Wrangler Ok, some things need to be clarified. If you petition an account you suspect was hacked you won't actually get the account banned. There has to be other indications that the account was hacked for that to happen. So what was the evidence that the account was hacked in this case? Well if my memory serves me right (It doesn't, I'm drunk), there never was any indication that it was hacked. They just temporarily "suspended" it so they could be sure of it. As Wrangler or whoever said, it was a pretty big heist.
Plim Gallente Celestial Apocalypse Insurgency	Posted - 2007.07.18 22:21:00 - [391] Originally by: Anders Kraneled Originally by: Plim Originally by: CCP Wrangler Ok, some things need to be clarified. If you petition an account you suspect was hacked you won't actually get the account banned. There has to be other indications that the account was hacked for that to happen. So what was the evidence that the account was hacked in this case? Well if my memory serves me right (It doesn't, I'm drunk), there never was any indication that it was hacked. They just temporarily "suspended" it so they could be sure of it. As Wrangler or whoever said, it was a pretty big heist. I interpreted Wranglers statement as implying that evidence must exist before an account is suspended. Else we could all go around accusing people of hacking and having thier accounts suspended without any evidence at all. That would be a bad thing would it not? Rudolf: "I was sworn to absolute secrecy by Santa Claus."
Anders Kraneled GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.07.18 22:24:00 - [392] Edited by: Anders Kraneled on 18/07/2007 22:25:07 Originally by: Plim Originally by: Anders Kraneled Originally by: Plim Originally by: CCP Wrangler Ok, some things need to be clarified. If you petition an account you suspect was hacked you won't actually get the account banned. There has to be other indications that the account was hacked for that to happen. So what was the evidence that the account was hacked in this case? Well if my memory serves me right (It doesn't, I'm drunk), there never was any indication that it was hacked. They just temporarily "suspended" it so they could be sure of it. As Wrangler or whoever said, it was a pretty big heist. I interpreted Wranglers statement as implying that evidence must exist before an account is suspended. Else we could all go around accusing people of hacking and having thier accounts suspended without any evidence at all. That would be a bad thing would it not? That was in the case of a petition, the ban was made by the GM's/Staff because of the value of "the heist" and not because anyone filed a petition for "omg h4x" and so forth. Edit: But yes you are correct, if I for instance filed a petition right now against you claiming that you had sold your account on eBay, I probably would have to go and purchase a new copy of Eve for myself.
Stamm Amarr Three Holdings Rule of Three	Posted - 2007.07.18 22:24:00 - [393] If it was between 100 and 300 bil then there would be a significant impact and a huge trail to follow to sort it out if it had been hacked. I think it's pretty reasonable to suspend the account in these circumstances - as long as CCP are careful to minimise the impact on the game. For example don't suspend the account of someone who's in an interceptor making a dash from Delve with all their T2 BPOs, wait until they get to Empire and dock. Galaxian Recruitment Info
PeAnUtTbUtTeR MiNiMuFf	Posted - 2007.07.18 22:28:00 - [394] Edited by: PeAnUtTbUtTeR MiNiMuFf on 18/07/2007 22:29:23 HAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!!! you Idiots got what you deserve, all your money was given to you by the Dev's anyway! (HAHAHAHAHHA chokes and passes out from Laughter!!!)
Plim Gallente Celestial Apocalypse Insurgency	Posted - 2007.07.18 22:30:00 - [395] Originally by: Anders Kraneled Originally by: Plim Originally by: Anders Kraneled Originally by: Plim Originally by: CCP Wrangler Ok, some things need to be clarified. If you petition an account you suspect was hacked you won't actually get the account banned. There has to be other indications that the account was hacked for that to happen. So what was the evidence that the account was hacked in this case? Well if my memory serves me right (It doesn't, I'm drunk), there never was any indication that it was hacked. They just temporarily "suspended" it so they could be sure of it. As Wrangler or whoever said, it was a pretty big heist. I interpreted Wranglers statement as implying that evidence must exist before an account is suspended. Else we could all go around accusing people of hacking and having thier accounts suspended without any evidence at all. That would be a bad thing would it not? That was in the case of a petition, the ban was made by the GM's/Staff because of the value of "the heist" and not because anyone filed a petition for "omg h4x" and so forth. That would imply that accounts would automatically be suspended in the case of a high value theft. No from what I understand, it was suspended because of a petition asking the account to be investigated because they believed it to be hacked. However, if the person making the petition provided no evidence that it was hacked, why did CCP suspend the account? And if there was no evidence or basis for the accusation, what are CCP going to do about someone wasting thier time? Rudolf: "I was sworn to absolute secrecy by Santa Claus."
Anders Kraneled GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.07.18 22:38:00 - [396] Edited by: Anders Kraneled on 18/07/2007 22:38:43 Originally by: Plim Originally by: Anders Kraneled Originally by: Plim Originally by: Anders Kraneled Originally by: Plim Originally by: CCP Wrangler Ok, some things need to be clarified. If you petition an account you suspect was hacked you won't actually get the account banned. There has to be other indications that the account was hacked for that to happen. So what was the evidence that the account was hacked in this case? Well if my memory serves me right (It doesn't, I'm drunk), there never was any indication that it was hacked. They just temporarily "suspended" it so they could be sure of it. As Wrangler or whoever said, it was a pretty big heist. I interpreted Wranglers statement as implying that evidence must exist before an account is suspended. Else we could all go around accusing people of hacking and having thier accounts suspended without any evidence at all. That would be a bad thing would it not? That was in the case of a petition, the ban was made by the GM's/Staff because of the value of "the heist" and not because anyone filed a petition for "omg h4x" and so forth. That would imply that accounts would automatically be suspended in the case of a high value theft. No from what I understand, it was suspended because of a petition asking the account to be investigated because they believed it to be hacked. However, if the person making the petition provided no evidence that it was hacked, why did CCP suspend the account? And if there was no evidence or basis for the accusation, what are CCP going to do about someone wasting thier time? The only quote from Wrangler I could find in 20 seconds was this: """Due to the size of the heist, the GM team took a look into it to see if there were any violations of the EULA. No misconduct was found and any actions taken against the player by CCP were reversed.""" As far as I can tell that means that they did it by their own accord. And ofcourse it shouldn't be banned automatically, and it wasn't. I've heard no mention of petitioning it. I got this off our own forums, no idea where it originated: (By ProphetGuru) """This is the only official statement you will recieve from Evolution regarding this incident. Flatliner did indeed clean out several of our hangars. It was him, he was not hacked, and Evolution is not contesting this, crying h4x, or sploit. It was a legit theft. (And then alot of blah blah) That pretty much indicated that they didn't petition it either.""" Edit: Why am I even posting all this ****, I just wanted to show off my new sig.
Heikki Gallente Wreckless Abandon Triumvirate.	Posted - 2007.07.18 22:39:00 - [397] I dislike corp thief, or espionage in general, in games like this: they create unneeded suspicion and mistrust among communities (i.e. corps). Unlike regular pirating, wars and other mayhem tactics. Then again, it's hard to feel pity for BOB corps, since to my understanding they support tactics like this. -Lasse
Plim Gallente Celestial Apocalypse Insurgency	Posted - 2007.07.18 22:42:00 - [398] So you are saying that everytime a huge amount of isk is robbed CCP suspend an account incase it was hacked? Rudolf: "I was sworn to absolute secrecy by Santa Claus."
Anders Kraneled GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.07.18 22:43:00 - [399] Originally by: Plim So you are saying that everytime a huge amount of isk is robbed CCP suspend an account incase it was hacked? It gets flagged for investigation.
Angelus Damelon Merch Industrial We Are Nice Guys	Posted - 2007.07.18 22:51:00 - [400] I didn't think anyone would top the lawls of Remedial's theft this year. I was wrong.
Rilariel Vanacaris Battlestars GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.07.18 22:58:00 - [401] Originally by: Morning Maniac Always sorry to hear about corp theft, no matter how much or how little it is and who is stolen from. On another note, EVE University always accepts donations in ships, modules or ISK :) It's tax deductable as well since we're a charity! MM oh you shameless vulture, you! rofl __________________ Litany of our Fate - http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=536527
Swinton Wolsoncroft Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.07.18 23:00:00 - [402] goondolences on ur loss, band of brosefs
Director Stoned Band of Developers	Posted - 2007.07.18 23:03:00 - [403] It's good to see evol attacked like this hopefully more of the dis-gruntled 400+ in evol will do the same in the near future maybe some of the bob pets in the surounding areas will raise up and rebel against thier surpressors and hopefully other bob corps will take advantage of evol's weakness and purge them from the south i personally would like to buy some of the stolen items at inflated prices up to 10x the value to inflated the actual numbers to 3 trillion in looses that would really put a dent in evol's wallet then
Solid Wilko Minmatar InNova Tech Inc Storm Armada	Posted - 2007.07.18 23:07:00 - [404] I tried to send him a congratulatory mail and it wouldn't go through. Is CCP keeping mails from him so server doesnt blow up?
Tetsujin GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.07.18 23:16:00 - [405] Originally by: Director Stoned It's good to see evol attacked like this hopefully more of the dis-gruntled 400+ in evol will do the same in the near future maybe some of the bob pets in the surounding areas will raise up and rebel against thier surpressors and hopefully other bob corps will take advantage of evol's weakness and purge them from the south i personally would like to buy some of the stolen items at inflated prices up to 10x the value to inflated the actual numbers to 3 trillion in looses that would really put a dent in evol's wallet then "suppressors" (o'.')b
Kagura Nikon Minmatar Guardians of the Dawn Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2007.07.18 23:21:00 - [406] Funny. When coalition loosed 50 capitls.. its UNPAYABLE, they are doomed bakrupt. But when its evolution that is "nothing" already been replaced. just LOL If brute force doesn't solve your problem... you are not using enough
Kamikaaazi Caldari Caldari Provisions	Posted - 2007.07.18 23:26:00 - [407] As said before, there are 2 things wrong with eve. 1st is lag, the other is lag. So very true. yarr
quellious COLSUP Tau Ceti Federation	Posted - 2007.07.18 23:31:00 - [408] (Sorry for spiking some pages of reply). So, basically, on one hand i really don't think that corp theif should be a valid way to play eve-online. I just mean that people should not fake friendship to hit an oponent, even more if you have to fake friendship for several years. On the other hand, BoB are dirrectly responsible for making eve-online a game where borderline 'tactics' are a common state of play. I'm thinking about POS offlining againt FA, killing 2 offline titan, POS bumping untill it was recognized as an exploit, being happy with corp theft as a valid tactic. Thus, i just hope that at least some evol players are disgusted, feeling betrayed, and very upset. I mean, like losing several years of game play an understanding that they have been just stolen their stuff an what they though wad an old friend. Basically, - you just get what you deserved - (and what you publicy considered as a fun way to play eve-online). Congratulation for the theft, not specifically for stealing so many stuff (which i don't really approve), but for hopefully showing some BoB players what sort of gameplay they have promoted, and finally why we don't want them online at all. :) (i expect to smile for the following days) PS : As usual this is my point of view. You may take it as a TCF point of view, but i personally don't know what my alliance mate are thinking about it. - Did you noticed that a pendulum does not swing in deep space ?
R3dSh1ft Dark Knights of Deneb Against ALL Authorities	Posted - 2007.07.18 23:35:00 - [409] Dramatic and epic DKOD - an awesome synchronised killing machine
Blitz'Krieg Caldari SkyMarshal Logistics	Posted - 2007.07.18 23:36:00 - [410] Originally by: Butter Dog Originally by: Stoffer Ninjapirate And another question, is the loot trapped in the stations, or did he manage to get any of it out? When we had our assets in ISSN stolen when the corp was still quite young, it was ransomed back to us for two-thirds of market price. We accepted and paid, of course, because it was so much easier and cheaper than re-stocking. I do believe that was me under my alt name of Tonnik, and tbh props to you guys for taking it like men. Was nothing like the scale of this tho.
fire 59 Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.07.18 23:38:00 - [411] Edited by: fire 59 on 18/07/2007 23:39:31 Edit - meh GOONIES = OMNIPOTENCE INCARNATE
ProphetGuru Gallente Evolution Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.07.18 23:51:00 - [412] The only thing tragic about this entire situation is the pathetic reading comprehension displayed by the muppet brigade. Some quick points that even a goon could understand. I didn't say everything had been replaced. I said much of it. Is it illogical to assume a corporation such as ours has reserves? Those of you who know anything about our corp will understand that. Those of you who worry simply about selling a gtc to get your next ship for BoB target practice probably wouldn't. I didn't say this loss was nothing. I was quite clear in saying that it would be foolish to sit here and say that a loss of this type didn't hurt in game. Of course it does. Try to keep up? Not one person from Evolution has asked for anyones sympathy here. Frankly we don't want or need it. Those of you laughing at our expense... gg. It's part of the game and we accept that. If I had the inclination to type out the examples of teamwork and brotherhood displayed by Evolutions members and our brothers in BOB during the last 48 hours I would, but to be honest, none of you are really worth the time it would take to do it, and it's doubtful you would comprehend or believe it anyway. Evolution is not about what we have in our hangars. Most of you won't understand that either, and goons being what they are (ie predictable) will of course make fun of it, but it's the truth. GG, only took yas 6 months
Detaitiv Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2007.07.18 23:52:00 - [413] Edited by: Detaitiv on 19/07/2007 00:00:01 Amen to what Quel said. And PG, it's kinda silly to be complaining about people laughing at your expense. It's what you guys do when you pull similar stunts on others, so just what you should expect. It's just another monkey on bob's back. I don't know if enough monkeys ever jump on at the same time to make em fall, but will be nice to see what's up next.
Illiya Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.07.18 23:56:00 - [414] Originally by: Flinx Evenstar So far BOB has done well not to scream and moan about it, Alice Chomlonlonloly had a go, but most people have it on block are you attempting to imply that alice chomdeleyeyeyev would complain about something and try to link the goons to wrongdoing. you know ac still claims not to be a bob alt, thats the best part~ snip Please do not troll with your signature. Read the Forum Rules -Eldo Davip([email protected])
NATMav F.R.E.E. Explorer EVE Animal Control	Posted - 2007.07.18 23:56:00 - [415] Karma is a *****. Wylker and Alice Cholmondeley are my fanclub. \0/
FarmerJimbo GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.07.18 23:57:00 - [416] Originally by: ProphetGuru The only thing tragic about this entire situation is the pathetic reading comprehension displayed by the muppet brigade. Some quick points that even a goon could understand. I think you overestimate goons tbqh.
Illiya Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.07.18 23:58:00 - [417] Originally by: ProphetGuru The only thing tragic about this entire situation is the pathetic reading comprehension displayed by the muppet brigade. Some quick points that even a goon could understand. Those of you who worry simply about selling a gtc to get your next ship for BoB target practice probably wouldn't. but to be honest, none of you are really worth the time it would take to do it, and it's doubtful you would comprehend or believe it anyway. instead of lobbing personal attacks which wont get moderated, maybe you guys should gloat about your glorious victory in 9-9 about it. oh wait. snip Please do not troll with your signature. Read the Forum Rules -Eldo Davip([email protected])
Althulas Stormbred GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.07.18 23:59:00 - [418] Do you guys ever get tired of talking? This game lags on your Alliance's Ego alone.
Flinx Evenstar Minmatar Spartan Industries Cruel Intentions	Posted - 2007.07.19 00:00:00 - [419] Edited by: Flinx Evenstar on 19/07/2007 00:02:32 Originally by: ProphetGuru The only thing tragic about this entire situation is the pathetic reading comprehension displayed by the muppet brigade. snip none of you are really worth the time it would take to do it, and it's doubtful you would comprehend or believe it anyway. Evolution is not about what we have in our hangars. Most of you won't understand that either, and goons being what they are (ie predictable) will of course make fun of it, but it's the truth. Nice work in condescending and patronising the entire eve community. Your superiority has been noted, we are not worthy to even read your posts. If you have bothered to read the many posts from your enemies, you would have noticed the universal contempt for corp thieves. So good job on your own reading comprehension. The only thing you have done with this spiteful post, is give Goons even more reason to laugh at you. It is slightly ironic, that 3 posts above yours, was one of mine saying that BOB had done well not to scream and moan about this...guess you just messed up all that PR Edit..when I said entire, I meant everyone that is not in the master alliance BOB. I, erm, like kill things and stuff
Havoc GunStar GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.07.19 00:03:00 - [420] Originally by: ProphetGuru Not one person from Evolution has asked for anyones sympathy here. Frankly we don't want or need it. Those of you laughing at our expense... gg. It's part of the game and we accept that. If I had the inclination to type out the examples of teamwork and brotherhood displayed by Evolutions members and our brothers in BOB during the last 48 hours I would, but to be honest, none of you are really worth the time it would take to do it, and it's doubtful you would comprehend or believe it anyway. No, we know nothing of Teamwork or Brotherhood. That's why you own 9-9 nowohwait
Clotaire Omni-Core Freedom Fighters Combined Planetary Union	Posted - 2007.07.19 00:06:00 - [421] You goons are full of crap.
ErbUs Minmatar Wildlands Heavy Technologies FOUNDATI0N	Posted - 2007.07.19 00:08:00 - [422] you take that back Your signature exceeds the maximum allowed filesize of 24000 bytes -Valorem ([email protected])
pershphanie Generals Of Destruction Syndicate	Posted - 2007.07.19 00:09:00 - [423] Edited by: pershphanie on 19/07/2007 00:10:05 The only thing more disgusting than flatlinner's actions are all of you who are trying to rationalize this behavior because it happened to someone you dont like. If this happened to someone you liked you would all be talking about how terrible this is. You should all be ashamed of yourselves. ------>PҼſϚի<------
Guint McBass Minmatar GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.07.19 00:09:00 - [424] Edited by: Guint McBass on 19/07/2007 00:10:28 Originally by: Clotaire You goons are full of crap. Youre right... we lied about this whole event Originally by: pershphanie The only thing more disgusting than flatlinner's actions are all of you who are trying to rationalize this behavior because it happened to someone you dont like. If this happened to someone you liked you would all be talking about how terrible this is. You should all be ashamed of yourselves. disgraceful... No, Im pretty sure our reaction would be the same
Orree Gallente Shiva Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2007.07.19 00:11:00 - [425] Originally by: Flinx Evenstar Edited by: Flinx Evenstar on 19/07/2007 00:06:08 Originally by: ProphetGuru The only thing tragic about this entire situation is the pathetic reading comprehension displayed by the muppet brigade. snip none of you are really worth the time it would take to do it, and it's doubtful you would comprehend or believe it anyway. Evolution is not about what we have in our hangars. Most of you won't understand that either, and goons being what they are (ie predictable) will of course make fun of it, but it's the truth. Nice work in condescending and patronising the entire eve community. Your superiority has been noted, we are not worthy to even read your posts. If you had bothered to read the many posts from your enemies, you would have noticed the universal contempt for corp thieves. So good job on your own reading comprehension. The only thing you have done with this spiteful post, is give Goons even more reason to laugh at you. It is slightly ironic, that 3 posts above yours, was one of mine saying that BOB had done well not to scream and moan about this...guess you just messed up all that PR Edit..when I said entire, I meant everyone that is not in the master alliance BOB. This. Some people just can't help themselves, though. "How much easier it is to be critical than to be correct." ---Benjamin Disraeli
Guint McBass Minmatar GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.07.19 00:13:00 - [426] The greatness coming off of the Evol post is just too much, I cant even understand a work of such awesomness
Illiya Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.07.19 00:15:00 - [427] Originally by: Guint McBass The greatness coming off of the Evol post is just too much, I cant even understand a work of such awesomness it can be difficult to follow along when youre dealing with ominopotence itself. snip Please do not troll with your signature. Read the Forum Rules -Eldo Davip([email protected])
Ella Miedo	Posted - 2007.07.19 00:15:00 - [428] Edited by: Ella Miedo on 19/07/2007 00:15:28 Edited by: Ella Miedo on 19/07/2007 00:15:08 damn alts ><
Dark Sin	Posted - 2007.07.19 00:15:00 - [429] cprp theft sucks for any corp. regardless who they are. Good luck to you guys..
Gutsani D00M. Triumvirate.	Posted - 2007.07.19 00:16:00 - [430] i cant be arsed to read this whole thread but when i read some BoB responds, i have this "pot kettle black" idea
Orangir GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.07.19 00:16:00 - [431] Edited by: Orangir on 19/07/2007 00:17:43 Originally by: ProphetGuru The only thing tragic about this entire situation is the pathetic reading comprehension displayed by the muppet brigade. Some quick points that even a goon could understand. I didn't say everything had been replaced. I said much of it. Is it illogical to assume a corporation such as ours has reserves? Those of you who know anything about our corp will understand that. Those of you who worry simply about selling a gtc to get your next ship for BoB target practice probably wouldn't. I didn't say this loss was nothing. I was quite clear in saying that it would be foolish to sit here and say that a loss of this type didn't hurt in game. Of course it does. Try to keep up? Not one person from Evolution has asked for anyones sympathy here. Frankly we don't want or need it. Those of you laughing at our expense... gg. It's part of the game and we accept that. If I had the inclination to type out the examples of teamwork and brotherhood displayed by Evolutions members and our brothers in BOB during the last 48 hours I would, but to be honest, none of you are really worth the time it would take to do it, and it's doubtful you would comprehend or believe it anyway. Evolution is not about what we have in our hangars. Most of you won't understand that either, and goons being what they are (ie predictable) will of course make fun of it, but it's the truth. Your corp's CEO lost his titan DDing 15 frigates and you gave him another one ahahahahaha
Bund GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.07.19 00:17:00 - [432] I hope this will not impact the length of the ongoing war. BoB has given us some amazingly stiff competition so far. Hopefully now that everyone's erected towers are starting to claim sov 3, the jump bridge module will allow you guys to deliver load after load of packaged minerals and supplies to the front, to replenish your war chest.
Apollyon X Dark Knights of Deneb Against ALL Authorities	Posted - 2007.07.19 00:17:00 - [433] Walk it off.
the rainingdeath The humble Crew Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2007.07.19 00:17:00 - [434] well thats intersting about the whole BoB losing 300bil and every thing... Goons deliver on this thread... nice sigs hahaha
Mel Keslan Merch Industrial We Are Nice Guys	Posted - 2007.07.19 00:18:00 - [435] Edited by: Mel Keslan on 19/07/2007 00:17:33 Originally by: Clotaire You goons are full of crap. You know, most people are actually, if you think about it. Originally by: ProphetGuru Evolution is not about what we have in our hangars. Most of you won't understand that either, and goons being what they are (ie predictable) will of course make fun of it, but it's the truth. Exactly. It's what's inside that counts. Like crap, for example, as we just learned. And that's nothing to make fun of, no sir.
Angelus Damelon Merch Industrial We Are Nice Guys	Posted - 2007.07.19 00:18:00 - [436] Edited by: Angelus Damelon on 19/07/2007 00:18:45 Originally by: Guint McBass Originally by: pershphanie The only thing more disgusting than flatlinner's actions are all of you who are trying to rationalize this behavior because it happened to someone you dont like. If this happened to someone you liked you would all be talking about how terrible this is. You should all be ashamed of yourselves. disgraceful... No, Im pretty sure our reaction was the same fixed remember that time OH SO LONG AGO when Remedial stole half the Goonswarm Titan fund, and Goons nerd raged over it oh wait the response was basically we;lp and lols all around, nevermind then
Cringeley GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.07.19 00:21:00 - [437] Originally by: ProphetGuru The only thing tragic about this entire situation is the pathetic reading comprehension displayed by the muppet brigade. Some quick points that even a goon could understand. I didn't say everything had been replaced. I said much of it. Is it illogical to assume a corporation such as ours has reserves? Those of you who know anything about our corp will understand that. Those of you who worry simply about selling a gtc to get your next ship for BoB target practice probably wouldn't. I didn't say this loss was nothing. I was quite clear in saying that it would be foolish to sit here and say that a loss of this type didn't hurt in game. Of course it does. Try to keep up? Not one person from Evolution has asked for anyones sympathy here. Frankly we don't want or need it. Those of you laughing at our expense... gg. It's part of the game and we accept that. If I had the inclination to type out the examples of teamwork and brotherhood displayed by Evolutions members and our brothers in BOB during the last 48 hours I would, but to be honest, none of you are really worth the time it would take to do it, and it's doubtful you would comprehend or believe it anyway. Evolution is not about what we have in our hangars. Most of you won't understand that either, and goons being what they are (ie predictable) will of course make fun of it, but it's the truth. So is this the only other official statement we'll get from Evolution, or are you being petulant and humourless on your own time? Go back and read the threads about Remedials corp theft and then LIGHTEN. UP.
Flinx Evenstar Minmatar Spartan Industries Cruel Intentions	Posted - 2007.07.19 00:22:00 - [438] Originally by: Bund I hope this will not impact the length of the ongoing war. BoB has given us some amazingly stiff competition so far. Hopefully now that everyone's erected towers are starting to claim sov 3, the jump bridge module will allow you guys to deliver load after load of packaged minerals and supplies to the front, to replenish your war chest. You goons are getting a bit kinky, or am I just getting hypnotised by the sigs ( I know I missed some innuendo's, but that post was absolutely rammed full of them, some would even say to the hilt ) I, erm, like kill things and stuff
Bluestealth Minmatar BlueLabs	Posted - 2007.07.19 00:23:00 - [439] Originally by: pershphanie The only thing more disgusting than flatlinner's actions are all of you who are trying to rationalize this behavior because it happened to someone you dont like. If this happened to someone you liked you would all be talking about how terrible this is. You should all be ashamed of yourselves. disgraceful... I have had corp assets stolen before, we got revenge on the person several times, luckily they had little access, and in the long run they didn't cause any damage. Yes, it does suck, especially in invite only corporations. However, with all the spying and shady game mechanics BoB has used over the years it is only fitting that they would get so hurt by one of their own. As I said earlier... Karma is a *****, and they have had this coming for a while. I wish them nothing but luck in EVE, but wish that they would try and simply play the game rather then trying to control it.
Marko Zhang Chargin Mah Lazors	Posted - 2007.07.19 00:31:00 - [440] Originally by: ProphetGuru If I had the inclination to type out the examples of teamwork and brotherhood displayed by Evolutions members and our brothers in BOB during the last 48 hours I would, but to be honest, none of you are really worth the time it would take to do it, and it's doubtful you would comprehend or believe it anyway. The only thing missing from this post is some suitably inspirational gospel music.
SaKoil GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.07.19 00:36:00 - [441] Originally by: ProphetGuru Evolution is not about what we have in our hangars. Most of you won't understand that either, and goons being what they are (ie predictable) will of course make fun of it, but it's the truth. Make fun of what? About whats not in your hangars?
Kael Zeratul Wreckless Abandon Triumvirate.	Posted - 2007.07.19 00:37:00 - [442] Normally I would say stealing is a horrible action. But then again when you corp / alliance uses those actions every day or every other day like off lining POSs and Spys and stuff like that as well as POS bowling all I can say is LoL you welcome such actions don't be shocked when they happen right back to you. Hope this happens every other week till you guys get off your high horse.
Mitchman Omniscient Order Cruel Intentions	Posted - 2007.07.19 00:38:00 - [443] Corp theft sucks. Period. It doesn't matter who it happens to or if it's 50bn or 9000bn (which someone said evol lost). It's just worse when it someone you know and trust does it. New video: All Aboard The Pain Train
nickycakes owned	Posted - 2007.07.19 00:40:00 - [444] Edited by: nickycakes owned on 19/07/2007 00:41:06 good to see bob taste their own medicine for change served! btw love new GOON sigs, great parody
Lord Takani Caldari Wreckless Abandon	Posted - 2007.07.19 00:48:00 - [445] Edited by: Lord Takani on 19/07/2007 00:48:53 I very rarely post. All i can say at evol is.... hahahahhah
Julian Kirov Umbra Congregatio Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2007.07.19 00:49:00 - [446] Originally by: NATMav Karma is a *****. QFT Even if corp thieves suck, you get what you give
Johnny ReeRee The ReeRee Brigade	Posted - 2007.07.19 00:53:00 - [447] Edited by: Johnny ReeRee on 19/07/2007 00:54:29 Originally by: Julian Kirov Originally by: NATMav Karma is a *****. QFT Even if corp thieves suck, you get what you give Well then IAC is certainly in for an extensive dose of corp theft, espionage, and corp pos off-lining! Because they have certainly employed those methods multiple times in the past, including against ISS. Nothing was too low for IAC, and I'm glad the lesson is that the worm will turn. I love all the bitter goonies turning out -- BoB really got their goat. It's hard to gloat and cheer while maintaining smug ironic detachment, but if you're sufficiently cool -- like teh goonies -- you just might be able to pull it off!
Xiut Rens 911	Posted - 2007.07.19 00:57:00 - [448] I love GF
Anexian	Posted - 2007.07.19 01:02:00 - [449] Originally by: pershphanie Edited by: pershphanie on 19/07/2007 00:10:05 The only thing more disgusting than flatlinner's actions are all of you who are trying to rationalize this behavior because it happened to someone you dont like. If this happened to someone you liked you would all be talking about how terrible this is. You should all be ashamed of yourselves. lol yeah coming from a guy who try to back stab there friend.
jarack Celestial Apocalypse Insurgency	Posted - 2007.07.19 01:04:00 - [450] If your happy and you know it, clap your hands! Clap Clap If your happy and you know it, clap your hands! Clap Clap If your happy and you know and you really want to show it, if your happy and you know it! STEAL FROM BOB! Celestial Apocalypse Recruitment
Astro Teller Milf Riders	Posted - 2007.07.19 01:09:00 - [451] Karma is a ***** huh bob? Milf Riders
Moon Kitten Gallente GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.07.19 01:12:00 - [452] Originally by: Astro Teller Karma is a ***** huh bob? There's no need to be rude.
With JudgeReinhold Gallente Legal Team	Posted - 2007.07.19 01:16:00 - [453] Oh man BoB you guys are the best never leave Quote: If I had the inclination to type out the examples of teamwork and brotherhood displayed by Evolutions members and our brothers in BOB during the last 48 hours I would, but to be honest, none of
Uuve Savisaalo Rage and Terror Against ALL Authorities	Posted - 2007.07.19 01:17:00 - [454] Edited by: Uuve Savisaalo on 19/07/2007 01:18:41 All the while there is a sense of just deserts, because in the end this great heist happened not only to the corporation counting digitalcommunist amongst its upper echelons, but arguably the best example in communal-property groups in eve. Flatliner's accomplishment came not through skill in social engineering or months of effort, but mind-boggling hubris, overconfidence and naivetT on behalf of evol management who let such a system fly in the first place. After all, some brothers stab you in the back.
Grimpak Gallente Trinity Nova KIA Alliance	Posted - 2007.07.19 01:32:00 - [455] Originally by: NATMav Karma is a ***. the universal truth. --- truth about EVE: Quote: "Guns are fine, boost players" Quote:** "Players are fine, boost guns"
Iraf Thaiberd Black Omega Security Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2007.07.19 01:36:00 - [456] 17 pages later and I am still lolin here.
Stahlregen GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.07.19 01:41:00 - [457] Hahahahahaaaaaaaaaa you can tell it hurts by how ****ed off ProphetGuru is getting at everyone not offering sincere condolences. Sucked in.
Orangir GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.07.19 01:44:00 - [458] Originally by: ProphetGuru If I had the inclination to type out the examples of teamwork and brotherhood displayed by Evolutions members and our brothers in BOB during the last 48 hours I would, but to be honest, none of you are really worth the time it would take to do it, and it's doubtful you would comprehend or believe it anyway. TEAMWORK AND BROTHERHOOD DISPLAYED <KeepItSimple> I do not believe so for the majority of people <KeepItSimple> EVEOL has been locked out from BoB chan <KeepItSimple> EVOL*
Ituralde Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2007.07.19 01:53:00 - [459] I would feel sorry for EVOL if this wasn't an example of the underhanded tactics they themselves and other BOB members have employed against various enemies. That being said, it's still lame and underhanded no matter who does it. No respect to corp thieves, even if BOB had it coming. _____________________________ Fear is the mind-killer.
Illiya Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.07.19 01:54:00 - [460] Originally by: Johnny ReeRee I love all the bitter goonies turning out -- BoB really got their goat. It's hard to gloat and cheer while maintaining smug ironic detachment, but if you're sufficiently cool -- like teh goonies -- you just might be able to pull it off! i dont think any of us really care beyond the fact that it's funny because it happened to omnipotence itself. you do realize we just came off of the theft of over 25 billion in personal donations by our founder and former ceo and responded by pushing bob out of tenerifs right?
Angelonico Battlestars GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.07.19 02:01:00 - [461] Sent 1 isk to Molle. My condolences.
Plim Gallente Celestial Apocalypse Insurgency	Posted - 2007.07.19 02:03:00 - [462] Originally by: pershphanie Edited by: pershphanie on 19/07/2007 00:10:05 The only thing more disgusting than flatlinner's actions are all of you who are trying to rationalize this behavior because it happened to someone you dont like. If this happened to someone you liked you would all be talking about how terrible this is. You should all be ashamed of yourselves. Damn that almost made me feel bad for 0.00001 of a second after my last laughing fit. Seriously though, the karma comment pretty much nails it. I hope most people can't have any sympathy for an alliance which is pretty much based on this kind of crap, doesnÆt ask for sympathy anyway and spends much of the time being one giant collective bad mannered ass to the entire community. It's not that long since BoB members were posting stuff from people's internal forums on these boards. However, if you want, you can picture BoB as a little kitten called Robert staring up at you teary eyed because someone has stolen his milk. But that would be somewhat misrepresentive of the situation. Cute image though. Rudolf: "I was sworn to absolute secrecy by Santa Claus."
Brunswick2 coracao ardente Triumvirate.	Posted - 2007.07.19 02:05:00 - [463] I normally would feel bad about what happened, but after the whole 00Y thing, it seems like BoB was only reaping what they sow O RLY? - Kreul
Flow Befort GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.07.19 02:09:00 - [464] I'm trying to figure out if this or Remedial taking the titan fund is more amusing. They are both fairly laffeaux but I can't decide.
JennyCraigSuccessStory Hi Friend	Posted - 2007.07.19 02:11:00 - [465] hahahaha made my day.
shivan Rampage Eternal Ka-Tet	Posted - 2007.07.19 02:14:00 - [466] Lets see if we can slightly change the direction of this thread... even though we have all now established that evol got ripped off pretty damn hard, and contray to their huffing and puffing that 'most of it' has been replaced but 'not all of it' cuz, ya know like, 'we're so awesom and cool like and like, like, we all sit round the fire at band camp and sing songs to each other, like...' my question is this... Have the other bob corps thought about their own internal security issues? The guy that ripped evol off said he started his operation off over a year, could the other big bob corps, most notibly BNC, DICE etc have their own sleeper agents inside the corp waiting for the most optunine time to strike? I guess only time will till! Tick tock and all that jazz. It seems the pendulum has swung once more! ------------------ RAM KB
Shari Vegas Minmatar Ctrl Alt Elites	Posted - 2007.07.19 02:16:00 - [467] So... what exactly was lost? I've only seen one link and it was deleted by CCP.
Onicov GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.07.19 02:19:00 - [468] Please do not create new threads on topics when there is already an existing thread discussing it.
shivan Rampage Eternal Ka-Tet	Posted - 2007.07.19 02:23:00 - [469] Originally by: Onicov Please do not create new threads on topics when there is already an existing thread discussing it. :'( ------------------ RAM KB
Ruth Menewai	Posted - 2007.07.19 02:25:00 - [470] Originally by: Str0be snip Posting with an unidentified character and / or characters in NPC corporations in this forum is prohibited. If you wish to participate in the discussions here, be sure to have your corporation and or alliance status ticked in your forum settings. -Elmo Pug ([email protected]) Would it be possible for CCP to give this guy special (but limited) posting privileges in CAOD so we can get the juicy details from the source?
Ruth Menewai	Posted - 2007.07.19 02:26:00 - [471] >_< stupid alt... this is gonna get deleted...
Dungar Loghoth Caldari Black Omega Security Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2007.07.19 02:28:00 - [472] Edited by: Dungar Loghoth on 19/07/2007 02:30:15 Edited by: Dungar Loghoth on 19/07/2007 02:29:57 Originally by: ProphetGuru The only thing tragic about this entire situation is the pathetic reading comprehension displayed by the muppet brigade. Evolution is not about what we have in our hangars. Most of you won't understand that either, and goons being what they are (ie predictable) will of course make fun of it, but it's the truth. How exactly do you replace something with reserves and not come out with a net loss? If you lost everything, and used your reservesn now you don't have the reserves anymore. I really doubt you have what he stole in reserve, I doubt even 51%, which is what much means, and if you did, you'd be the biggest morons in the game for having ~150b in assets just collecting dust in your hangers instead of investing it. But really, I don't think anyone expected you to come on here and start crying about how doomed you are. Keep talking tough, I'm sure someone's going to believe the talking points you keep posting. Whatever you have to see the membership grinding away.
Falhofnir Evolution	Posted - 2007.07.19 02:35:00 - [473] Originally by: Dungar Loghoth How exactly do you replace something with reserves and not come out with a net loss? If you lost everything, and used your reservesn now you don't have the reserves anymore. I really doubt you have what he stole in reserve, I doubt even 51%, which is what much means, and if you did, you'd be the biggest morons in the game for having ~150b in assets just collecting dust in your hangers instead of investing it. But really, I don't think anyone expected you to come on here and start crying about how doomed you are. Keep talking tough, I'm sure someone's going to believe the talking points you keep posting. Whatever you have to see the membership grinding away. You quite didn't get the point. On the other hand, I miss 300bs very much tonight.
AonChilo Madison Industrial Co. Sylph Alliance	Posted - 2007.07.19 02:40:00 - [474] Disappointing corp theft can be, and it highlights an interesting precedent in Eve. The temptation to steal/pirate in this game is so very strong, especially since its so easy and consequences of it are so nimble. 20 RL hours, 40, 60, 100, even a 1000s worth can be totally obliterated from someone in minutes. Whether the victim be an entire corp, a lone ratter in 0.0 or even a mission runner in low sec.
Relaria Hossin GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.07.19 02:42:00 - [475] Originally by: Falhofnir You quite didn't get the point. On the other hand, I miss 300bs very much tonight. I get the point you guys are trying to make but it's just another bland piece of predictable propaganda and is lost amongst the sea of identical posts that came before it.
SaKoil GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.07.19 02:46:00 - [476] Originally by: Orangir Edited by: Orangir on 19/07/2007 01:44:00 Originally by: ProphetGuru If I had the inclination to type out the examples of teamwork and brotherhood displayed by Evolutions members and our brothers in BOB during the last 48 hours I would, but to be honest, none of you are really worth the time it would take to do it, and it's doubtful you would comprehend or believe it anyway. TEAMWORK AND BROTHERHOOD DISPLAYED <KeepItSimple> EVEOL has been locked out from BoB chan <KeepItSimple> EVOL* We didn't want that brotherhood anyway.
Charles Case Caldari Duragon Pioneer Group GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.07.19 02:48:00 - [477] BAND OF BROTHERS Your signature has been deemed inappropriate. If you have any questions about this please Mail the Mods be sure to include a link to your signature. -Darth Patches
Ouroboron Amarr GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.07.19 02:54:00 - [478] I just wanted to say, and I'm probably going ot be fined for this, but there's a lot of us in the Swarm who are very angry about this. We want to defeat BoB in a battle of skill, tactics, and strategy. This act has no honor. While we of course see the benefits of seeing one of our enemies crippled, after coming so soon after our own Titan fund theft by Remedial, we see this as just another lame act by a lame player. It's sad. I hope you you all rebuild, and come back stronger, and continue to be a worthy foe. This theft is just sad. I hope the thief truly feels ashamed. Chowdown fights with honor.
Ouroboron Amarr GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.07.19 02:55:00 - [479] Edited by: Ouroboron on 19/07/2007 02:55:24 ^^^ Not even remotely true. BWAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAAHAHAAAHAHAH!!! Couldn't have happened to a nicer bunch of guys. BWAHAHAHAHAAAHAHAAHAHAHAAHAHAH!!! Chowdown fights with honor.
Stahlregen GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.07.19 02:56:00 - [480] Originally by: Relaria Hossin Originally by: Falhofnir You quite didn't get the point. On the other hand, I miss 300bs very much tonight. I get the point you guys are trying to make but it's just another bland piece of predictable propaganda and is lost amongst the sea of identical posts that came before it. Their ridiculous amount of self pride and perceived e-honour makes them literally unable to admit that they could be anything less than completely invincible. A shame, seeing as how everyone that matters can already recognise the frantic hand waving of a once powerful alliance now rendered impotent by capital nerfs. But hey, As long as they've got such renowned and skilled allies like CORM and RISE I'm sure they're going to do just fine.
Soy Lu Gallente GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.07.19 02:58:00 - [481] Edited by: Soy Lu on 19/07/2007 02:57:56 assuming this isn't a prank, then hahahahahahhahakdjfgjkhkf also, fofofofofoof
Falhofnir Evolution	Posted - 2007.07.19 02:59:00 - [482] Looks like the propaganda isn't coming from me. pls, 300bs.
Setana Manoro Gallente Firefly Inc.	Posted - 2007.07.19 03:10:00 - [483] Edited by: Setana Manoro on 19/07/2007 03:11:50 Originally by: Dungar Loghoth Edited by: Dungar Loghoth on 19/07/2007 02:30:15 Edited by: Dungar Loghoth on 19/07/2007 02:29:57 Originally by: ProphetGuru The only thing tragic about this entire situation is the pathetic reading comprehension displayed by the muppet brigade. Evolution is not about what we have in our hangars. Most of you won't understand that either, and goons being what they are (ie predictable) will of course make fun of it, but it's the truth. How exactly do you replace something with reserves and not come out with a net loss? If you lost everything, and used your reservesn now you don't have the reserves anymore. I really doubt you have what he stole in reserve, I doubt even 51%, which is what much means, and if you did, you'd be the biggest morons in the game for having ~150b in assets just collecting dust in your hangers instead of investing it. But really, I don't think anyone expected you to come on here and start crying about how doomed you are. Keep talking tough, I'm sure someone's going to believe the talking points you keep posting. Whatever you have to see the membership grinding away. I really dislike BOB but you post shows how ignorant you are. EVOL is not a 20 man corp made 3 months ago. They are a communist corp that has a crapload of pos's, and has a very large industrial backbone for t1/t2 ships and mods. When he said "we replaced from reserves" it means just that. To think that such a corp in such an alliance does not have back-up dreads in case they lose another 10-15 - they really can't afford to wait 2 weeks to build them as soon as they finished losing them, or already fitted sniper bs's in hangars or fuel for pos's for the next 1 month in the hangars is just stupid. Honestly the biggest damage to them as i see it are the pos fuel - or better said the lack off, which can lead to pos's going offline followed by the lack of dreads in case they lose another 15, but i think they probably solved those issues or ar close to solving them. Everything he took was meant to be used and lost - besides the t1 bpo's. You honestly expect a corp of EVOL's age and history of communist model to be finished when losing 100-200b isk ? I wouldn't be surprised if they bought back some of the stolen stuff from the thief. Much easier for both parties. While I am happy that something like this happened to EVOL, I am certain that they have already partially recovered and in 1-2 months they will fully recover, while still giving their members ships, mods, fuel, everything they need to fight constantly. Caldari are the plague of EVE, little whiners that must be cleansed from TQ.
Stoffer Ninjapirate Amarr GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.07.19 03:11:00 - [484] Originally by: Setana Manoro Originally by: Dungar Loghoth Edited by: Dungar Loghoth on 19/07/2007 02:30:15 Edited by: Dungar Loghoth on 19/07/2007 02:29:57 Originally by: ProphetGuru The only thing tragic about this entire situation is the pathetic reading comprehension displayed by the muppet brigade. Evolution is not about what we have in our hangars. Most of you won't understand that either, and goons being what they are (ie predictable) will of course make fun of it, but it's the truth. How exactly do you replace something with reserves and not come out with a net loss? If you lost everything, and used your reservesn now you don't have the reserves anymore. I really doubt you have what he stole in reserve, I doubt even 51%, which is what much means, and if you did, you'd be the biggest morons in the game for having ~150b in assets just collecting dust in your hangers instead of investing it. But really, I don't think anyone expected you to come on here and start crying about how doomed you are. Keep talking tough, I'm sure someone's going to believe the talking points you keep posting. Whatever you have to see the membership grinding away. I really dislike BOB but you post shows how ignorant you are. EVOL is not a 20 man corp made 3 months ago. They are a communist corp that has a crapload of pos's, builds dreads for their members and t1/t2 ships. When he said "we replaced from reserves" it means just that. To think that such a corp in such an alliance does not have back-up dreads in case they lose another 10-15 - they really can't afford to wait 2 weeks to build them as soon as they finished losing them, or already fitted sniper bs's in hangars or fuel for pos's for the next 1 month in the hangars is just stupid. Honestly the biggest damage to them as i see it are the pos fuel - or better said the lack off, which can lead to pos's going offline followed by the lack of dreads in case they lose another 15, but i think they probably solved those issues or ar close to solving them. Everything he took was meant to be used and lost - besides the t1 bpo's. You honestly expect a corp of EVOL's age and history of communist model to be finished when losing 100-200b isk ? I wouldn't be surprised if they bought back some of the stolen stuff from the thief. Much easier for both parties. While I am happy that something like this happened to EVOL, I am certain that they have already partially recovered and in 1-2 months they will fully recover, while still giving their members ships, mods, fuel, everything they need to fight untill then. There is nothing better than pubbies trying to teach us how BOB works.
Setana Manoro Gallente Firefly Inc.	Posted - 2007.07.19 03:13:00 - [485] Originally by: Stoffer Ninjapirate Originally by: Setana Manoro Originally by: Dungar Loghoth Edited by: Dungar Loghoth on 19/07/2007 02:30:15 Edited by: Dungar Loghoth on 19/07/2007 02:29:57 Originally by: ProphetGuru The only thing tragic about this entire situation is the pathetic reading comprehension displayed by the muppet brigade. Evolution is not about what we have in our hangars. Most of you won't understand that either, and goons being what they are (ie predictable) will of course make fun of it, but it's the truth. How exactly do you replace something with reserves and not come out with a net loss? If you lost everything, and used your reservesn now you don't have the reserves anymore. I really doubt you have what he stole in reserve, I doubt even 51%, which is what much means, and if you did, you'd be the biggest morons in the game for having ~150b in assets just collecting dust in your hangers instead of investing it. But really, I don't think anyone expected you to come on here and start crying about how doomed you are. Keep talking tough, I'm sure someone's going to believe the talking points you keep posting. Whatever you have to see the membership grinding away. I really dislike BOB but you post shows how ignorant you are. EVOL is not a 20 man corp made 3 months ago. They are a communist corp that has a crapload of pos's, builds dreads for their members and t1/t2 ships. When he said "we replaced from reserves" it means just that. To think that such a corp in such an alliance does not have back-up dreads in case they lose another 10-15 - they really can't afford to wait 2 weeks to build them as soon as they finished losing them, or already fitted sniper bs's in hangars or fuel for pos's for the next 1 month in the hangars is just stupid. Honestly the biggest damage to them as i see it are the pos fuel - or better said the lack off, which can lead to pos's going offline followed by the lack of dreads in case they lose another 15, but i think they probably solved those issues or ar close to solving them. Everything he took was meant to be used and lost - besides the t1 bpo's. You honestly expect a corp of EVOL's age and history of communist model to be finished when losing 100-200b isk ? I wouldn't be surprised if they bought back some of the stolen stuff from the thief. Much easier for both parties. While I am happy that something like this happened to EVOL, I am certain that they have already partially recovered and in 1-2 months they will fully recover, while still giving their members ships, mods, fuel, everything they need to fight untill then. There is nothing better than pubbies trying to teach us how BOB works. There is nothing better than pubbies calling ppl they don't know or don't know of, pubbies. :) Caldari are the plague of EVE, little whiners that must be cleansed from TQ.
Darko1107 Caldari E X O D U S Imperial Republic Of the North	Posted - 2007.07.19 03:14:00 - [486] Well done to whoever orchestrated this. Havent read the whole thread admitedly so might be just talking rubbish. Cant be bothered tbh. Any1 saying this lame needs to think about bobs history. At the end of the day, Bob betray peoples trust. I couldnt give a **** whether its long term or short term, its both the same to me. ------------------ Sig removed, please keep it under the 24,000 byte limit, if you have any questions please email [email protected] - Xorus
Ouroboron Amarr GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.07.19 03:15:00 - [487] Originally by: Stoffer Ninjapirate There is nothing better than pubbies trying to teach us how BOB works. You have a spectacular avatar tbqh Chowdown fights with honor.
Stoffer Ninjapirate Amarr GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.07.19 03:16:00 - [488] Originally by: Setana Manoro Originally by: Stoffer Ninjapirate Originally by: Setana Manoro Originally by: Dungar Loghoth Edited by: Dungar Loghoth on 19/07/2007 02:30:15 Edited by: Dungar Loghoth on 19/07/2007 02:29:57 Originally by: ProphetGuru The only thing tragic about this entire situation is the pathetic reading comprehension displayed by the muppet brigade. Evolution is not about what we have in our hangars. Most of you won't understand that either, and goons being what they are (ie predictable) will of course make fun of it, but it's the truth. How exactly do you replace something with reserves and not come out with a net loss? If you lost everything, and used your reservesn now you don't have the reserves anymore. I really doubt you have what he stole in reserve, I doubt even 51%, which is what much means, and if you did, you'd be the biggest morons in the game for having ~150b in assets just collecting dust in your hangers instead of investing it. But really, I don't think anyone expected you to come on here and start crying about how doomed you are. Keep talking tough, I'm sure someone's going to believe the talking points you keep posting. Whatever you have to see the membership grinding away. I really dislike BOB but you post shows how ignorant you are. EVOL is not a 20 man corp made 3 months ago. They are a communist corp that has a crapload of pos's, builds dreads for their members and t1/t2 ships. When he said "we replaced from reserves" it means just that. To think that such a corp in such an alliance does not have back-up dreads in case they lose another 10-15 - they really can't afford to wait 2 weeks to build them as soon as they finished losing them, or already fitted sniper bs's in hangars or fuel for pos's for the next 1 month in the hangars is just stupid. Honestly the biggest damage to them as i see it are the pos fuel - or better said the lack off, which can lead to pos's going offline followed by the lack of dreads in case they lose another 15, but i think they probably solved those issues or ar close to solving them. Everything he took was meant to be used and lost - besides the t1 bpo's. You honestly expect a corp of EVOL's age and history of communist model to be finished when losing 100-200b isk ? I wouldn't be surprised if they bought back some of the stolen stuff from the thief. Much easier for both parties. While I am happy that something like this happened to EVOL, I am certain that they have already partially recovered and in 1-2 months they will fully recover, while still giving their members ships, mods, fuel, everything they need to fight untill then. There is nothing better than pubbies trying to teach us how BOB works. There is nothing better than pubbies calling ppl they don't know or don't know of, pubbies. :) no u
INZi coracao ardente Triumvirate.	Posted - 2007.07.19 03:21:00 - [489] pretty giggly to see people bum out about how evol will recover. the fact still remains: they got robbed, a hole in the their well organised drama got used and abused. that stings and that will never recover. i dislike corp theft for real. but to see bob getting hit by this is quite funny since they're gameing history aint flawless in any meens.
Setana Manoro Gallente Firefly Inc.	Posted - 2007.07.19 03:23:00 - [490] Originally by: Stoffer Ninjapirate Originally by: Setana Manoro Originally by: Stoffer Ninjapirate Originally by: Setana Manoro Originally by: Dungar Loghoth Edited by: Dungar Loghoth on 19/07/2007 02:30:15 Edited by: Dungar Loghoth on 19/07/2007 02:29:57 Originally by: ProphetGuru The only thing tragic about this entire situation is the pathetic reading comprehension displayed by the muppet brigade. Evolution is not about what we have in our hangars. Most of you won't understand that either, and goons being what they are (ie predictable) will of course make fun of it, but it's the truth. How exactly do you replace something with reserves and not come out with a net loss? If you lost everything, and used your reservesn now you don't have the reserves anymore. I really doubt you have what he stole in reserve, I doubt even 51%, which is what much means, and if you did, you'd be the biggest morons in the game for having ~150b in assets just collecting dust in your hangers instead of investing it. But really, I don't think anyone expected you to come on here and start crying about how doomed you are. Keep talking tough, I'm sure someone's going to believe the talking points you keep posting. Whatever you have to see the membership grinding away. I really dislike BOB but you post shows how ignorant you are. EVOL is not a 20 man corp made 3 months ago. They are a communist corp that has a crapload of pos's, builds dreads for their members and t1/t2 ships. When he said "we replaced from reserves" it means just that. To think that such a corp in such an alliance does not have back-up dreads in case they lose another 10-15 - they really can't afford to wait 2 weeks to build them as soon as they finished losing them, or already fitted sniper bs's in hangars or fuel for pos's for the next 1 month in the hangars is just stupid. Honestly the biggest damage to them as i see it are the pos fuel - or better said the lack off, which can lead to pos's going offline followed by the lack of dreads in case they lose another 15, but i think they probably solved those issues or ar close to solving them. Everything he took was meant to be used and lost - besides the t1 bpo's. You honestly expect a corp of EVOL's age and history of communist model to be finished when losing 100-200b isk ? I wouldn't be surprised if they bought back some of the stolen stuff from the thief. Much easier for both parties. While I am happy that something like this happened to EVOL, I am certain that they have already partially recovered and in 1-2 months they will fully recover, while still giving their members ships, mods, fuel, everything they need to fight untill then. There is nothing better than pubbies trying to teach us how BOB works. There is nothing better than pubbies calling ppl they don't know or don't know of, pubbies. :) no u Oh, the sharp witt of your rethoric. It hurts ! Caldari are the plague of EVE, little whiners that must be cleansed from TQ.
Ouroboron Amarr GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.07.19 03:27:00 - [491] Edited by: Ouroboron on 19/07/2007 03:29:56 Originally by: Setana Manoro Originally by: Stoffer Ninjapirate no u Oh, the sharp witt of your rethoric. It hurts ! You should see your spelling. VVV You said it buddy. I hate playing games with people who have no honor. Chowdown fights with honor.
Adm Tecumseh Caldari Frequently Asked Questions	Posted - 2007.07.19 03:27:00 - [492] Originally by: Ouroboron I just wanted to say, and I'm probably going ot be fined for this, but there's a lot of us in the Swarm who are very angry about this. We want to defeat BoB in a battle of skill, tactics, and strategy. This act has no honor. While we of course see the benefits of seeing one of our enemies crippled, after coming so soon after our own Titan fund theft by Remedial, we see this as just another lame act by a lame player. It's sad. I hope you you all rebuild, and come back stronger, and continue to be a worthy foe. This theft is just sad. I hope the thief truly feels ashamed. This is the best, most mature Goon post I have ever read. If even 25 percent of the goons were like this guy I might start swinging the otherway :) I don't like BoB but I do dislike Goons. However this guy is the other cheek as it were. Thanks.
Havoc GunStar GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.07.19 03:30:00 - [493] Originally by: Adm Tecumseh Originally by: Ouroboron I just wanted to say, and I'm probably going ot be fined for this, but there's a lot of us in the Swarm who are very angry about this. We want to defeat BoB in a battle of skill, tactics, and strategy. This act has no honor. While we of course see the benefits of seeing one of our enemies crippled, after coming so soon after our own Titan fund theft by Remedial, we see this as just another lame act by a lame player. It's sad. I hope you you all rebuild, and come back stronger, and continue to be a worthy foe. This theft is just sad. I hope the thief truly feels ashamed. This is the best, most mature Goon post I have ever read. If even 25 percent of the goons were like this guy I might start swinging the otherway :) I don't like BoB but I do dislike Goons. However this guy is the other cheek as it were. Thanks. This thread is the gift that keeps on giving. Now go back and read his next post.
Stoffer Ninjapirate Amarr GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.07.19 03:31:00 - [494] Originally by: Adm Tecumseh Originally by: Ouroboron I just wanted to say, and I'm probably going ot be fined for this, but there's a lot of us in the Swarm who are very angry about this. We want to defeat BoB in a battle of skill, tactics, and strategy. This act has no honor. While we of course see the benefits of seeing one of our enemies crippled, after coming so soon after our own Titan fund theft by Remedial, we see this as just another lame act by a lame player. It's sad. I hope you you all rebuild, and come back stronger, and continue to be a worthy foe. This theft is just sad. I hope the thief truly feels ashamed. This is the best, most mature Goon post I have ever read. If even 25 percent of the goons were like this guy I might start swinging the otherway :) I don't like BoB but I do dislike Goons. However this guy is the other cheek as it were. Thanks. Way to read the following post guy.
Moon Kitten Gallente GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.07.19 03:31:00 - [495] Originally by: Setana Manoro Edited by: Setana Manoro on 19/07/2007 03:11:50 Originally by: Dungar Loghoth Edited by: Dungar Loghoth on 19/07/2007 02:30:15 Edited by: Dungar Loghoth on 19/07/2007 02:29:57 Originally by: ProphetGuru The only thing tragic about this entire situation is the pathetic reading comprehension displayed by the muppet brigade. Evolution is not about what we have in our hangars. Most of you won't understand that either, and goons being what they are (ie predictable) will of course make fun of it, but it's the truth. How exactly do you replace something with reserves and not come out with a net loss? If you lost everything, and used your reservesn now you don't have the reserves anymore. I really doubt you have what he stole in reserve, I doubt even 51%, which is what much means, and if you did, you'd be the biggest morons in the game for having ~150b in assets just collecting dust in your hangers instead of investing it. But really, I don't think anyone expected you to come on here and start crying about how doomed you are. Keep talking tough, I'm sure someone's going to believe the talking points you keep posting. Whatever you have to see the membership grinding away. I really dislike BOB but you post shows how ignorant you are. EVOL is not a 20 man corp made 3 months ago. They are a communist corp that has a crapload of pos's, and has a very large industrial backbone for t1/t2 ships and mods. When he said "we replaced from reserves" it means just that. To think that such a corp in such an alliance does not have back-up dreads in case they lose another 10-15 - they really can't afford to wait 2 weeks to build them as soon as they finished losing them, or already fitted sniper bs's in hangars or fuel for pos's for the next 1 month in the hangars is just stupid. Honestly the biggest damage to them as i see it are the pos fuel - or better said the lack off, which can lead to pos's going offline followed by the lack of dreads in case they lose another 15, but i think they probably solved those issues or ar close to solving them. Everything he took was meant to be used and lost - besides the t1 bpo's. You honestly expect a corp of EVOL's age and history of communist model to be finished when losing 100-200b isk ? I wouldn't be surprised if they bought back some of the stolen stuff from the thief. Much easier for both parties. While I am happy that something like this happened to EVOL, I am certain that they have already partially recovered and in 1-2 months they will fully recover, while still giving their members ships, mods, fuel, everything they need to fight constantly. Please, tell us more about the inner workings of Evolution.
Fzoul KAOS. KA0S Theory	Posted - 2007.07.19 03:31:00 - [496] Originally by: Adm Tecumseh Originally by: Ouroboron I just wanted to say, and I'm probably going ot be fined for this, but there's a lot of us in the Swarm who are very angry about this. We want to defeat BoB in a battle of skill, tactics, and strategy. This act has no honor. While we of course see the benefits of seeing one of our enemies crippled, after coming so soon after our own Titan fund theft by Remedial, we see this as just another lame act by a lame player. It's sad. I hope you you all rebuild, and come back stronger, and continue to be a worthy foe. This theft is just sad. I hope the thief truly feels ashamed. This is the best, most mature Goon post I have ever read. If even 25 percent of the goons were like this guy I might start swinging the otherway :) I don't like BoB but I do dislike Goons. However this guy is the other cheek as it were. Thanks. Sorry, can't tell if that's sarcasm or not... you did actually see the post RIGHT BELOW it, right? :)
Adm Tecumseh Caldari Frequently Asked Questions	Posted - 2007.07.19 03:40:00 - [497] Edited by: Adm Tecumseh on 19/07/2007 03:40:50 Originally by: Nadarius Chrome
Toppar Wear Celestial Apocalypse Insurgency	Posted - 2007.07.19 03:41:00 - [498] No matter who it is, corp theft sucks, and a corp like EVOL which do it the commie way, suck even harder.. I have always had a love for the commie systems But to all the bob anti fan boys, 200 -300 bil is only a set back.. As long as their t2 bpo wasnt taken they still has nothing to worry about.. I have been in corp that has lost 300bil in bpo and items, bob dint flame them then and i will not do that to them now.. It is respect.. For all the flamers out there, Celes is one of the only corps to fight against bob and win.. now go back to the hole that u live in.. I just hope they still show up when we rock their world and kill all of their fleet
Yoshimoto Core Agency	Posted - 2007.07.19 03:44:00 - [499] Despite the partially successful attempt of Goonswarm's sigs to keep it going, this thread is still borderline boring in its failure to deliver the promised drama Please donate 1 isk to this character for every post you make here until you deliver the facts you were supposed to on the 1st page, thank you.
Uuve Savisaalo Rage and Terror Against ALL Authorities	Posted - 2007.07.19 03:49:00 - [500] Edited by: Uuve Savisaalo on 19/07/2007 03:50:24 Originally by: pershphanie The only thing more disgusting than flatlinner's actions are all of you who are trying to rationalize this behavior because it happened to someone you dont like. See, back in the day - couple of years ago to be exact - i was gloriously robbing people under direction of certain individuals who came to be in evol's leadership. The fact that it had to happen to the group containing some of the most talented thieves, manipulators and people who are, according to their own statements, touching themselves at the thought of causing grief to another - not to say i am any better than that, of course - is some delicious irony.
With JudgeReinhold Gallente Legal Team	Posted - 2007.07.19 03:51:00 - [501] Originally by: Toppar Wear No matter who it is, corp theft sucks, and a corp like EVOL which do it the commie way, suck even harder.. I have always had a love for the commie systems But to all the bob anti fan boys, 200 -300 bil is only a set back.. As long as their t2 bpo wasnt taken they still has nothing to worry about.. I have been in corp that has lost 300bil in bpo and items, bob dint flame them then and i will not do that to them now.. It is respect.. For all the flamers out there, Celes is one of the only corps to fight against bob and win.. now go back to the hole that u live in.. I just hope they still show up when we rock their world and kill all of their fleet Yeah dude BoB is all about honor and respect for their opponents, just ask D2 or ASCN. Quote: If I had the inclination to type out the examples of teamwork and brotherhood displayed by Evolutions members and our brothers in BOB during the last 48 hours I would, but to be honest, none of
Donges Buttes and Donges	Posted - 2007.07.19 04:00:00 - [502] Hello friends how are you all today? I am fine. My name is Donges and I think this is absolutely terrible and these poor poor people who were previously starved for ISK are now devastated and treated in this way because they are clearly outstanding citizens of EVE (because it is kind of like a country you see because it is like one world with a lot of people and stuff like that and since we are going into metaphors here then I would say that our friends in Evol are clearly the high class and maybe the government isn't that true guys). This is just my two cents I just wanted to let you guys know how I feel about this whole matter because my opinion on this is important and I know you all want to know how I feel about this, isn't that right friends. Your friend, Donges
Tyrrhena Maxus Igneus Auctorita GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.07.19 04:01:00 - [503] Originally by: Nadarius Chrome
Toppar Wear Celestial Apocalypse Insurgency	Posted - 2007.07.19 04:03:00 - [504] Originally by: With JudgeReinhold Originally by: Toppar Wear No matter who it is, corp theft sucks, and a corp like EVOL which do it the commie way, suck even harder.. I have always had a love for the commie systems But to all the bob anti fan boys, 200 -300 bil is only a set back.. As long as their t2 bpo wasnt taken they still has nothing to worry about.. I have been in corp that has lost 300bil in bpo and items, bob dint flame them then and i will not do that to them now.. It is respect.. For all the flamers out there, Celes is one of the only corps to fight against bob and win.. now go back to the hole that u live in.. I just hope they still show up when we rock their world and kill all of their fleet Yeah dude BoB is all about honor and respect for their opponents, just ask D2 or ASCN. Dude, how stupid are you ?... I has with ASCN doing the G/IRON/ROZOR invasion, also doing the bob invasion.. Sure they where ass hats, but corp theft is never acceptable no matter who you are.. I then joined Celes apoc.. A corp that made bob use 1 titan and 2 motherships just to camp us in one station... We where only 100 in corp, thats is more then what you can say you have done to bob... You really dont know who you our talking about.. .. You are one of the troll im talking about But if it really makes you happy i can say one more thing ... KARMA IS A *****!!
Bein Glorious GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.07.19 04:05:00 - [505] many goonfleet trolls don't know who they're talking **** to half the time, what can i say
Zhulik Abyss Restless	Posted - 2007.07.19 04:05:00 - [506] I do not think there is a single person in here who has credibility to talk about what is honorable and what is not. Come on, none of you ever ganked a hauler? Never blew up and viciously podded an innocent shuttle? You dare to say that you wouldn't ransom a freighter given a chance and ability to do so? Seriously. And by the way strong is this thread with the funneh. At least the parts I've read.
Tyrrhena Maxus Igneus Auctorita GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.07.19 04:07:00 - [507] BOB moral dead itt You guys know these things come in three's right? First a titan, now all your goodies, next your space? At least you'll have you e-honour left..oh wait... lololol
Tyrrhena Maxus Igneus Auctorita GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.07.19 04:09:00 - [508] Originally by: Zhulik Come on, none of you ever ganked a hauler? Never blew up and viciously podded an innocent shuttle? You dare to say that you wouldn't ransom a freighter given a chance and ability to do so? I have never killed a hauler
Elijah Maelstrom The Nest	Posted - 2007.07.19 04:11:00 - [509] Originally by: Toppar Wear Originally by: With JudgeReinhold Originally by: Toppar Wear No matter who it is, corp theft sucks, and a corp like EVOL which do it the commie way, suck even harder.. I have always had a love for the commie systems But to all the bob anti fan boys, 200 -300 bil is only a set back.. As long as their t2 bpo wasnt taken they still has nothing to worry about.. I have been in corp that has lost 300bil in bpo and items, bob dint flame them then and i will not do that to them now.. It is respect.. For all the flamers out there, Celes is one of the only corps to fight against bob and win.. now go back to the hole that u live in.. I just hope they still show up when we rock their world and kill all of their fleet Yeah dude BoB is all about honor and respect for their opponents, just ask D2 or ASCN. Dude, how stupid are you ?... I has with ASCN doing the G/IRON/ROZOR invasion, also doing the bob invasion.. Sure they where ass hats, but corp theft is never acceptable no matter who you are.. I then joined Celes apoc.. A corp that made bob use 1 titan and 2 motherships just to camp us in one station... We where only 100 in corp, thats is more then what you can say you have done to bob... You really dont know who you our talking about.. .. You are one of the troll im talking about But if it really makes you happy i can say one more thing ... KARMA IS A *****!! running around screaming "bob used thar supercaps against our allianz, WE R TEH UBER!!!111oneone" ...classic
Zhulik Abyss Restless	Posted - 2007.07.19 04:12:00 - [510] Originally by: Tyrrhena Maxus Originally by: Zhulik Come on, none of you ever ganked a hauler? Never blew up and viciously podded an innocent shuttle? You dare to say that you wouldn't ransom a freighter given a chance and ability to do so? I have never killed a hauler What about shuttles? Even the possibility of me being wrong is out of the question, surely you've done something morally objectionable during your eve existence.
Icomeinpeace Evolution Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.07.19 04:20:00 - [511] It's amazing how bitter some people are, and it shows in this thread who you are. Let's bring this back down from the hype a bit, after all it is just a game right? Flatliner had his access for years, so to all the people screaming this was well planned, don't you think this could have happened sooner? If it had been planned it was not done so till very recently, and he had already gained our freindship, trust, and most importantly, high level hanger access.Flatliner being angered, for whatever reason escapes me, decided to take advantage of well stocked corp hangers(with a little encouragement from his russian freinds it seems).It was oportunistic in my opinion plain and simple. So we lose all this in game isk, done deal. I have thought corp theft was sad if the person was a trusted freind and it is true.I still am ok with it being a part of the game, and it has made things more exciting for me to say the least.No more Eve on easy mode ftw, EvoL has a challenge ahead of us and time will tell how we adapt. We have been in eve from the beggining, have been successful from the start.Not because of how much isk we have, or the ships, but because of the team. We have accomplished more than most in this game, even if we do not exist tommoro.That is the reason why most dislike us I believe.Well,that an we like to pew pew with whoever We have lots of enemies, I am enjoying the fight against goonswarm, and will continue to enjoy how ever long it lasts.Just keep in mind that just because one member of BoB says this, or someone from evol says that, it's just that person.Not the entire corp or alliance.Just as bob may have it's share of "bad apples" so does any other group in this game. I'm just saying it would be nice if we could trash talk on the forums, and pew pew in game, in a more respectable manner. Then there are the RL bitter people who just won't let it go, and come up with any childish insults. Of course I do realise some people here are still waiting to ge into the bars
Dungar Loghoth Caldari Black Omega Security Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2007.07.19 04:23:00 - [512] Originally by: Setana Manoro I really dislike BOB but you post shows how ignorant you are. EVOL is not a 20 man corp made 3 months ago. They are a communist corp that has a crapload of pos's, and has a very large industrial backbone for t1/t2 ships and mods. When he said "we replaced from reserves" it means just that. To think that such a corp in such an alliance does not have back-up dreads in case they lose another 10-15 - they really can't afford to wait 2 weeks to build them as soon as they finished losing them, or already fitted sniper bs's in hangars or fuel for pos's for the next 1 month in the hangars is just stupid. Obviously we should just give up fighting BoB right now because of their bottomless pockets and infinite resources We're not talking 10 or 15 dreads, or a fleet of T2 battleships, or some HACs, we're talking the equivalent of more than the coalition lost in F-T. Far more than it, depending on what the actual loss was. This isn't something you instantly recover from, or that you recover from in a month or two. Even doing the Venal to Curse traderuns at 2b a day, it would take months and months and months to make up for what was lost. Not to mention the logistical headaches of replacing everything, with the freightering, the carrier jumping, etc, even if they have titans to help. You're entitled to think whatever you want about Evolution, or any other BoB corp, but don't pretend they're invincible or that this isn't going to set them back a ways.
Astro Teller Milf Riders	Posted - 2007.07.19 04:26:00 - [513] Originally by: Icomeinpeace It's amazing how bitter some people are, and it shows in this thread who you are. Let's bring this back down from the hype a bit, after all it is just a game right? Flatliner had his access for years, so to all the people screaming this was well planned, don't you think this could have happened sooner? If it had been planned it was not done so till very recently, and he had already gained our freindship, trust, and most importantly, high level hanger access.Flatliner being angered, for whatever reason escapes me, decided to take advantage of well stocked corp hangers(with a little encouragement from his russian freinds it seems).It was oportunistic in my opinion plain and simple. So we lose all this in game isk, done deal. I have thought corp theft was sad if the person was a trusted freind and it is true.I still am ok with it being a part of the game, and it has made things more exciting for me to say the least.No more Eve on easy mode ftw, EvoL has a challenge ahead of us and time will tell how we adapt. We have been in eve from the beggining, have been successful from the start.Not because of how much isk we have, or the ships, but because of the team. We have accomplished more than most in this game, even if we do not exist tommoro.That is the reason why most dislike us I believe.Well,that an we like to pew pew with whoever We have lots of enemies, I am enjoying the fight against goonswarm, and will continue to enjoy how ever long it lasts.Just keep in mind that just because one member of BoB says this, or someone from evol says that, it's just that person.Not the entire corp or alliance.Just as bob may have it's share of "bad apples" so does any other group in this game. I'm just saying it would be nice if we could trash talk on the forums, and pew pew in game, in a more respectable manner. Then there are the RL bitter people who just won't let it go, and come up with any childish insults. Of course I do realise some people here are still waiting to ge into the bars rabble rabble rabble you can not escape karma can i have 700billion too ? Milf Riders
Toppar Wear Celestial Apocalypse Insurgency	Posted - 2007.07.19 04:26:00 - [514] Originally by: Elijah Maelstrom Originally by: Toppar Wear Originally by: With JudgeReinhold Originally by: Toppar Wear No matter who it is, corp theft sucks, and a corp like EVOL which do it the commie way, suck even harder.. I have always had a love for the commie systems But to all the bob anti fan boys, 200 -300 bil is only a set back.. As long as their t2 bpo wasnt taken they still has nothing to worry about.. I have been in corp that has lost 300bil in bpo and items, bob dint flame them then and i will not do that to them now.. It is respect.. For all the flamers out there, Celes is one of the only corps to fight against bob and win.. now go back to the hole that u live in.. I just hope they still show up when we rock their world and kill all of their fleet Yeah dude BoB is all about honor and respect for their opponents, just ask D2 or ASCN. Dude, how stupid are you ?... I has with ASCN doing the G/IRON/ROZOR invasion, also doing the bob invasion.. Sure they where ass hats, but corp theft is never acceptable no matter who you are.. I then joined Celes apoc.. A corp that made bob use 1 titan and 2 motherships just to camp us in one station... We where only 100 in corp, thats is more then what you can say you have done to bob... You really dont know who you our talking about.. .. You are one of the troll im talking about But if it really makes you happy i can say one more thing ... KARMA IS A *****!! running around screaming "bob used thar supercaps against our allianz, WE R TEH UBER!!!111oneone" ...classic Try reading my post again, then post.. I am as anti bob as you can be.. Who cares they supercapital blobbed us.. That is the bob style.. Never have losse, what i am saying is it suck that someone took all of their stuff in corp hangars, i know first hand.. And as i like the commie way, i think it sucks even harder.. Now i¦ll repete myself, bob is rolfamo, they cant fight... They blob, use dd or what ever they can to stop you.. they are not looking for fights, only ganks.. And yes, they had it coming with all of their forum spanning, local smacking.. I am just glad they learned something from the ASCN war.. They went way over the line smacking the leadership in the way they did, it was so lame... Comprende ahora amigo ?
Morrigan Starlover Center for Advanced Studies	Posted - 2007.07.19 04:29:00 - [515] another huge bob loss bob - being humbled, one loss at a time
With JudgeReinhold Gallente Legal Team	Posted - 2007.07.19 04:33:00 - [516] Originally by: Toppar Wear Originally by: Elijah Maelstrom Originally by: Toppar Wear Originally by: With JudgeReinhold Originally by: Toppar Wear No matter who it is, corp theft sucks, and a corp like EVOL which do it the commie way, suck even harder.. I have always had a love for the commie systems But to all the bob anti fan boys, 200 -300 bil is only a set back.. As long as their t2 bpo wasnt taken they still has nothing to worry about.. I have been in corp that has lost 300bil in bpo and items, bob dint flame them then and i will not do that to them now.. It is respect.. For all the flamers out there, Celes is one of the only corps to fight against bob and win.. now go back to the hole that u live in.. I just hope they still show up when we rock their world and kill all of their fleet Yeah dude BoB is all about honor and respect for their opponents, just ask D2 or ASCN. Dude, how stupid are you ?... I has with ASCN doing the G/IRON/ROZOR invasion, also doing the bob invasion.. Sure they where ass hats, but corp theft is never acceptable no matter who you are.. I then joined Celes apoc.. A corp that made bob use 1 titan and 2 motherships just to camp us in one station... We where only 100 in corp, thats is more then what you can say you have done to bob... You really dont know who you our talking about.. .. You are one of the troll im talking about But if it really makes you happy i can say one more thing ... KARMA IS A ***!! running around screaming "bob used thar supercaps against our allianz, WE R TEH UBER!!!111oneone" ...classic Try reading my post again, then post.. I am as anti bob as you can be.. Who cares they supercapital blobbed us.. That is the bob style.. Never have losse, what i am saying is it suck that someone took all of their stuff in corp hangars, i know first hand.. And as i like the commie way, i think it sucks even harder.. Now i¦ll repete myself, bob is rolfamo, they cant fight... They blob, use dd or what ever they can to stop you.. they are not looking for fights, only ganks.. And yes, they had it coming with all of their forum spanning, local smacking.. I am just glad they learned something from the ASCN war.. They went way over the line smacking the leadership in the way they did, it was so lame... Comprende ahora amigo ? The things you are saying make no sense. Quote:** If I had the inclination to type out the examples of teamwork and brotherhood displayed by Evolutions members and our brothers in BOB during the last 48 hours I would, but to be honest, none of
Beyond Horizon Black Omega Security	Posted - 2007.07.19 04:38:00 - [517] Originally by: CCP Wrangler Originally by: Misses Gap Was the person who falsely claimed that those 100dreds of billions were obtained with illegit meta - ways banned or not ? Gap Those kinds of issues are between us (CCP) and the person involved, we do not release that kind of information to third parties. Translation: no, 'cause he's bob - BH
Toppar Wear Celestial Apocalypse Insurgency	Posted - 2007.07.19 04:39:00 - [518] Originally by: With JudgeReinhold The things you are saying make no sense. tochT my freind, If you ever log into eve-online, try conving me and ill make it clearer..
Uuve Savisaalo Rage and Terror Against ALL Authorities	Posted - 2007.07.19 04:40:00 - [519] Edited by: Uuve Savisaalo on 19/07/2007 04:41:28 Originally by: Icomeinpeace Flatliner had his access for years, so to all the people screaming this was well planned, don't you think this could have happened sooner? If it had been planned it was not done so till very recently, and he had already gained our freindship, trust, and most importantly, high level hanger access. Flatliner being angered, for whatever reason escapes me, decided to take advantage of well stocked corp hangers(with a little encouragement from his russian freinds it seems).It was oportunistic in my opinion plain and simple. Thats the thing, though. It wasn't the the corporation was attacked by some sort of an outside agent, but that the very principles it had been founded in mind with - brotherhood and kindship, the tight knit nature of it..has been irreparably compromised through flatliner's actions, whatever the reasons behind them may have been. The financial losses from it are trivial compared to the whole way evol operates that this has put into question. Unlike game-currency which is easily replentished in evol's able caufers, the trust and peace of mind of its members is not. this is why what has occured is more damaging than if it were caused by some malicious external saboteur.
Aaron Static Igneus Auctorita GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.07.19 04:42:00 - [520] Man gets sick of life in BoB being so boring and losing fights all the time, takes their stuff and posts on eve-o for a change in scenery.. News at 11
Tetsujin GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.07.19 04:50:00 - [521] Originally by: Toppar Wear Originally by: With JudgeReinhold The things you are saying make no sense. tochT my freind, If you ever log into eve-online, try conving me and ill make it clearer.. tochTT
Astro Teller Milf Riders	Posted - 2007.07.19 04:51:00 - [522] Originally by: Aaron Static Man gets sick of life in BoB being so boring and losing fights all the time, takes their stuff and posts on eve-o for a change in scenery.. News at 11 where is your man pic?! Milf Riders
Orlando Gardner The Older Gamers R0ADKILL	Posted - 2007.07.19 04:51:00 - [523] Edited by: Orlando Gardner on 19/07/2007 04:52:11 Angelus Damelon WANG dude your sig wins lol as for the topic// Meh just circle one of the following outraged how could he haha karma jealous
Icomeinpeace Evolution Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.07.19 04:52:00 - [524] rabble rabble rabble you can not escape karma can i have 700billion too ? Oh hi person from a corp who has accomplished 0
Sir MilBanacky Stronghold corp Curse Alliance	Posted - 2007.07.19 04:52:00 - [525] Originally by: fightnkill I guess BoB members shouldn't have laughed at GS losing 60bill due to Corp theft. What goes around comes around Ten times worse! Fun times I sure miss the old Days of COAD
Sir MilBanacky Stronghold corp Curse Alliance	Posted - 2007.07.19 04:54:00 - [526] Originally by: Holy Cheater Originally by: Omorashi Wanted to buy: Some nice BPO's A couple of COMMAND SHIPS Three DREADNOUGHTS Four CARRIERS Five FREIGHTERS And SIX BATTLESHIPS. And a Partrige in a Pear Tree Fun times I sure miss the old Days of COAD
Aaron Static Igneus Auctorita GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.07.19 04:57:00 - [527] Originally by: Astro Teller Originally by: Aaron Static Man gets sick of life in BoB being so boring and losing fights all the time, takes their stuff and posts on eve-o for a change in scenery.. News at 11 where is your man pic?! I'm not a fully fledged member of the eve-o troll patrol yet
Sir MilBanacky Stronghold corp Curse Alliance	Posted - 2007.07.19 05:00:00 - [528] Originally by: Alice Cholmondeley snip Trolling. If you have an issue with the way the investigation was handled, then please feel free to email [email protected]. -Elmo Pug Isnt this like Alices 50th snip for Trolling this week? With no ban yet? Heck Most of us get warned for sneezing wrong in COAD Fun times I sure miss the old Days of COAD
Sir MilBanacky Stronghold corp Curse Alliance	Posted - 2007.07.19 05:01:00 - [529] Originally by: Entschlossen Originally by: Deva Blackfire Originally by: Entschlossen How lame can someone be, to steal from friends he fought 3-4 years with. I can't understand that. Its only a game. You forgot that? No mate its more, at least for me its a kind of hobby, where i meet with friends, chat and have fun together. But i also dont see what this has to do with beeing a game or not, someone you thought is a friend backstabbed you. If he does it in Eve or when you play poker or steals it directly from you makes now difference for me, its simply lame. And when Blacklights spies backstab their friends for BOB is that any different? Fun times I sure miss the old Days of COAD
Icomeinpeace Evolution Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.07.19 05:07:00 - [530] Thats the thing, though. The corporation on the receiving end of this was not attacked by some sort of an outside agent. Since the culprit was a long-time trusted member, the principles evol - and to some degree - band of brothers had been founded in mind with - brotherhood and kinship, the tight knit nature of evol have all been irreparably compromised through flatliner's actions, whatever the reasons behind them may have been. The financial losses from it are trivial compared to the whole way evol operates that this has put into question. Unlike game-currency which is easily replentished in evol's able caufers, the trust and peace of mind of its members is not. this is why what has occured is more damaging than if it were caused by some malicious external saboteur. Well said. I would also like to add that I do consider "evol" to be "evil" as a corporation in Eve.So indeed this may be well deserved karma and I will not argue that. Don't forget shrike was in a titan the next day after his 1st titan loss.I don't think many people here have seen what we can do to veldspar We took the biggest hit in probably Eve's history, I don't see a beter corp in this game to rise up and overcome it. If you don't like us, well, too bad, we aren't finished yet
Uuve Savisaalo Rage and Terror Against ALL Authorities	Posted - 2007.07.19 05:07:00 - [531] Edited by: Uuve Savisaalo on 19/07/2007 05:10:42 Originally by: icomeinpeace If you don't like us, well, too bad, we aren't finished yet i think the past six months, despite the technical issues we've faced during our respective campaigns, have brought us some of the better times in eve and for the game's sake hope that this conflict is nowhere near over. I mean, this is eve's end-game content and it delivers - my subscription fees to ccp at any rate.
Angelus Damelon Merch Industrial We Are Nice Guys	Posted - 2007.07.19 05:11:00 - [532] Originally by: Orlando Gardner Edited by: Orlando Gardner on 19/07/2007 04:52:11 Angelus Damelon WANG dude your sig wins lol "This is BoB. BoB had *** **." I like it tbqh
Stoffer Ninjapirate Amarr GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.07.19 05:16:00 - [533] Originally by: Icomeinpeace Thats the thing, though. The corporation on the receiving end of this was not attacked by some sort of an outside agent. Since the culprit was a long-time trusted member, the principles evol - and to some degree - band of brothers had been founded in mind with - brotherhood and kinship, the tight knit nature of evol have all been irreparably compromised through flatliner's actions, whatever the reasons behind them may have been. The financial losses from it are trivial compared to the whole way evol operates that this has put into question. Unlike game-currency which is easily replentished in evol's able caufers, the trust and peace of mind of its members is not. this is why what has occured is more damaging than if it were caused by some malicious external saboteur. Well said. I would also like to add that I do consider "evol" to be "evil" as a corporation in Eve.So indeed this may be well deserved karma and I will not argue that. Don't forget shrike was in a titan the next day after his 1st titan loss.I don't think many people here have seen what we can do to veldspar We took the biggest hit in probably Eve's history, I don't see a beter corp in this game to rise up and overcome it. If you don't like us, well, too bad, we aren't finished yet Don't forget that titan was taken from another BOB member and you're one short!
band0fdevs Gallente Band of Dev's	Posted - 2007.07.19 05:20:00 - [534] the game rolls on, that said evol will adjust its another bit psych boost for RA-GS but not the end of the matter i expect the favour to be returned to the Reds - swarm in some manner
Faith Rose Amarr Evolution Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.07.19 05:20:00 - [535] Originally by: Icomeinpeace If you don't like us, well, too bad, we aren't finished yet Enough said: "How do you kill... that which has no life?"
With JudgeReinhold Gallente Legal Team	Posted - 2007.07.19 05:24:00 - [536] Originally by: Icomeinpeace Thats the thing, though. The corporation on the receiving end of this was not attacked by some sort of an outside agent. Since the culprit was a long-time trusted member, the principles evol - and to some degree - band of brothers had been founded in mind with - brotherhood and kinship, the tight knit nature of evol have all been irreparably compromised through flatliner's actions, whatever the reasons behind them may have been. The financial losses from it are trivial compared to the whole way evol operates that this has put into question. Unlike game-currency which is easily replentished in evol's able caufers, the trust and peace of mind of its members is not. this is why what has occured is more damaging than if it were caused by some malicious external saboteur. Well said. I would also like to add that I do consider "evol" to be "evil" as a corporation in Eve.So indeed this may be well deserved karma and I will not argue that. Don't forget shrike was in a titan the next day after his 1st titan loss.I don't think many people here have seen what we can do to veldspar We took the biggest hit in probably Eve's history, I don't see a beter corp in this game to rise up and overcome it. If you don't like us, well, too bad, we aren't finished yet Molle losing a titan to doomsday 5 frigates and then stealing another person's because he's the alliance leader isn't exactly an accomplishment to brag about. Quote: If I had the inclination to type out the examples of teamwork and brotherhood displayed by Evolutions members and our brothers in BOB during the last 48 hours I would, but to be honest, none of
Illiya Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.07.19 05:25:00 - [537] Originally by: Sir MilBanacky Originally by: Alice Cholmondeley snip Trolling. If you have an issue with the way the investigation was handled, then please feel free to email [email protected]. -Elmo Pug Isnt this like Alices 50th snip for Trolling this week? With no ban yet? Heck Most of us get warned for sneezing wrong in COAD nah man, its cool because alice is a bob alt. so her trolling is totally where as our trolling is patently inexcusable.
Dungar Loghoth Caldari Black Omega Security Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2007.07.19 05:33:00 - [538] Edited by: Dungar Loghoth on 19/07/2007 05:33:48 Originally by: With JudgeReinhold Originally by: Icomeinpeace Thats the thing, though. The corporation on the receiving end of this was not attacked by some sort of an outside agent. Since the culprit was a long-time trusted member, the principles evol - and to some degree - band of brothers had been founded in mind with - brotherhood and kinship, the tight knit nature of evol have all been irreparably compromised through flatliner's actions, whatever the reasons behind them may have been. The financial losses from it are trivial compared to the whole way evol operates that this has put into question. Unlike game-currency which is easily replentished in evol's able caufers, the trust and peace of mind of its members is not. this is why what has occured is more damaging than if it were caused by some malicious external saboteur. Well said. I would also like to add that I do consider "evol" to be "evil" as a corporation in Eve.So indeed this may be well deserved karma and I will not argue that. Don't forget shrike was in a titan the next day after his 1st titan loss.I don't think many people here have seen what we can do to veldspar We took the biggest hit in probably Eve's history, I don't see a beter corp in this game to rise up and overcome it. If you don't like us, well, too bad, we aren't finished yet Molle losing a titan to doomsday 5 frigates and then stealing another person's because he's the alliance leader isn't exactly an accomplishment to brag about. Exactly. The fact he was in it, but conveniently no where near any meaningful battle, also says plenty. Anything for the sake of appearances.
band0fdevs Gallente Band of Dev's	Posted - 2007.07.19 05:36:00 - [539] appearences and esp the COAD forums have way to much influence on individual members perceptions of their own alliances - sheep
Liu Kaskakka PAK	Posted - 2007.07.19 05:42:00 - [540] The asset loss (though a source of hilarity to the opposing team) ain't a biggie to bob. What remains to be seen is if there are more "old friends" who don't want to be pals with evol anymore, or if there's going to be mistrust amongst the existing members with high level access. What would be funny though is to see the lol-squad's reaction if flatliner would give it all back. On another note, where's the story/reasons for the theft??? King Liu is RIGHT!!
Horionte	Posted - 2007.07.19 05:52:00 - [541] Originally by: Tetsujin Originally by: Toppar Wear Originally by: With JudgeReinhold The things you are saying make no sense. tochT my freind, If you ever log into eve-online, try conving me and ill make it clearer.. tochTT touchT -- The intelligence of the Earth is constant. Problem is, the population keeps rising.
band0fdevs Gallente Band of Dev's	Posted - 2007.07.19 05:58:00 - [542] Originally by: Liu Kaskakka The asset loss (though a source of hilarity to the opposing team) ain't a biggie to bob. What remains to be seen is if there are more "old friends" who don't want to be pals with evol anymore, or if there's going to be mistrust amongst the existing members with high level access. What would be funny though is to see the lol-squad's reaction if flatliner would give it all back. On another note, where's the story/reasons for the theft??? wasnt flatliner a RA alt of sorts. Obvious reasons RA get a high level asset director - peep into BOB, bob start attacking RA , the word is given to shut bob down. Its the long term alts ( i mean 1 year in evol) that can do the most dmg
F'nog Amarr Celestial Horizon Corp. Valainaloce	Posted - 2007.07.19 06:04:00 - [543] Originally by: CYVOK I am sure everyone here is aware of my view of this type of action in any online environment. Unlike those in BoB who have laughed at and congratulated in the past Corp thefts against CLS/ASCN I won't do the same. On this one issue alone I support BoB and sincerely hope they can recover their items or at the very least get some retribution. My advice is to BoB, band together as an Alliance and replace what was lost as a team as quickly as possible. Don't get all paranoid, don't go on a witch hunt. To the thief, congratulations on your heist, your leet, now do the honorable thing and return the items to their rightful owner. No players deserve to have their game ruined by your actions. ààà Or you can transfer all loot me. -CYVOK- I call SHENANIGANS!!!!!! There's no way CY wrote this post. I noticed only one spelling errors and one grammatical one. I used to get It. Then It changed. Now I don't even know what It is.
Orangir GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.07.19 06:15:00 - [544] Originally by: Liu Kaskakka The asset loss (though a source of hilarity to the opposing team) ain't a biggie to bob. Exactly, this loss will only make Evolution stronger. As a goon, I really wish we could've helped SirMolle and his crew avoid this unfortunate incident. After the titan loss and the retaking of 9-9, BoB has been stronger and more fierce than ever before, giving them yet another power boost may put the nail in the coffin for the coalition.
darkfuntime Minmatar Omega Enterprises Mostly Harmless	Posted - 2007.07.19 06:20:00 - [545] Good swiping is an art in itself. [/url]
Vaarmoth Malinigvious Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.07.19 06:28:00 - [546] Originally by: Jacque Custeau I always think that corp thefts are horrible and cringe whenever I heard about them. However, in this situation I recall the POS bowling, the smack talk and the ninja-titan aggro and I find myself thinking no one else could have deserved this more. Sadly though, I am pretty sure Evolution will bounce back from this. They have many renters lining their pockets. It must suck though that this is happening so close to their annual bbq. Hey Saladin you coward, why don;t you post with your main? Would your corp and alliance not approve? I've seen your cowardly alt attacks with this guy and others you have (dont forget I've known you for nearly 4 years). Please have some balls...
Anglo Minmatar Astral Mexicans	Posted - 2007.07.19 06:39:00 - [547] evol has much isk. i recon 300 bill isent anything for them. for me i think it would have ment the end of eve.
Anglo Minmatar Astral Mexicans	Posted - 2007.07.19 06:39:00 - [548] evol has much isk. i recon 300 bill isent anything for them. for me i think it would have ment the end of eve.
Moon Kitten Gallente GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.07.19 06:49:00 - [549] Originally by: Vaarmoth Malinigvious Originally by: Jacque Custeau I always think that corp thefts are horrible and cringe whenever I heard about them. However, in this situation I recall the POS bowling, the smack talk and the ninja-titan aggro and I find myself thinking no one else could have deserved this more. Sadly though, I am pretty sure Evolution will bounce back from this. They have many renters lining their pockets. It must suck though that this is happening so close to their annual bbq. Hey Saladin you coward, why don;t you post with your main? Would your corp and alliance not approve? I've seen your cowardly alt attacks with this guy and others you have (dont forget I've known you for nearly 4 years). Please have some balls... Calm down. Cheer up for the BBQ man. I live under a bridge
Vaarmoth Malinigvious Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.07.19 06:53:00 - [550] Originally by: Moon Kitten Originally by: Vaarmoth Malinigvious Originally by: Jacque Custeau I always think that corp thefts are horrible and cringe whenever I heard about them. However, in this situation I recall the POS bowling, the smack talk and the ninja-titan aggro and I find myself thinking no one else could have deserved this more. Sadly though, I am pretty sure Evolution will bounce back from this. They have many renters lining their pockets. It must suck though that this is happening so close to their annual bbq. Hey Saladin you coward, why don;t you post with your main? Would your corp and alliance not approve? I've seen your cowardly alt attacks with this guy and others you have (dont forget I've known you for nearly 4 years). Please have some balls... Calm down. Cheer up for the BBQ man. Thanks, but I don't need cheering up, life is too good. I just tire of seeing people posting with alts. This is one alt I know who is hiding behind it. In fact it has nothing to do with this thread except for the fact I saw saladin's alt. Please carry on.
Jim Linger Pyrrhus Sicarii Aftermath Alliance	Posted - 2007.07.19 07:02:00 - [551] pics or gtfo Your signature exceeds the maximum allowed filesize of 24000 bytes -Sahwoolo

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Sir MilBanacky Stronghold corp Curse Alliance	Posted - 2007.07.19 07:25:00 - [553] Edited by: Sir MilBanacky on 19/07/2007 07:24:54 Originally by: Vaarmoth Malinigvious Originally by: Moon Kitten Originally by: Vaarmoth Malinigvious Originally by: Jacque Custeau I always think that corp thefts are horrible and cringe whenever I heard about them. However, in this situation I recall the POS bowling, the smack talk and the ninja-titan aggro and I find myself thinking no one else could have deserved this more. Sadly though, I am pretty sure Evolution will bounce back from this. They have many renters lining their pockets. It must suck though that this is happening so close to their annual bbq. Hey Saladin you coward, why don;t you post with your main? Would your corp and alliance not approve? I've seen your cowardly alt attacks with this guy and others you have (dont forget I've known you for nearly 4 years). Please have some balls... Calm down. Cheer up for the BBQ man. Thanks, but I don't need cheering up, life is too good. I just tire of seeing people posting with alts. This is one alt I know who is hiding behind it. In fact it has nothing to do with this thread except for the fact I saw saladin's alt. Please carry on. Maybe you could chew out Alice's Real BOB Main in teamspeak Since your on the Anti-alt Watch Fun times I sure miss the old Days of COAD
Flashheart Caldari Dangermouse Inc.	Posted - 2007.07.19 07:31:00 - [554] Nice hanger, i'll take it!
shivan Rampage Eternal Ka-Tet	Posted - 2007.07.19 07:59:00 - [555] Originally by: Flashheart Nice hanger, i'll take it! LOL You win the thread. ------------------ RAM KB
terminal mehmet GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.07.19 08:02:00 - [556] Originally by: shivan Originally by: Flashheart Nice hanger, i'll take it! LOL You win the thread. Are you sure?
shivan Rampage Eternal Ka-Tet	Posted - 2007.07.19 08:04:00 - [557] Originally by: terminal mehmet Originally by: shivan Originally by: Flashheart Nice hanger, i'll take it! LOL You win the thread. Are you sure? Lets run through the check list. One liner? Check Witty? Check Mocking the victim? Check All three rules are satisfied for thread winning, so why not? ------------------ RAM KB
Adm Tecumseh Caldari Frequently Asked Questions	Posted - 2007.07.19 08:22:00 - [558] Originally by: Beyond Horizon Originally by: CCP Wrangler Originally by: Misses Gap Was the person who falsely claimed that those 100dreds of billions were obtained with illegit meta - ways banned or not ? Gap Those kinds of issues are between us (CCP) and the person involved, we do not release that kind of information to third parties. Translation: no, 'cause he's bob Hey BH, I am wondering, Were you born an idiot or did that take training and practice?
gfldex Evolution Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.07.19 08:39:00 - [559] Originally by: Liu Kaskakka On another note, where's the story/reasons for the theft??? Those who spoke to him couldn't find out. That doesn't make much sense until you learn that he could have taken at least 3x as much. I feel sorry for him. We lost one friend he lost all. His only options are now to join goon or quit EVE. -- There are countless games in the world. There are at least as many ppl that dont like one or more rules of said games. That never stopped smart game designers from creating good games.
Uuve Savisaalo Rage and Terror Against ALL Authorities	Posted - 2007.07.19 08:42:00 - [560] I imagine there are certainly more options for someone besides goons when they're out of favour with evol.
Guint McBass Minmatar GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.07.19 08:45:00 - [561] Edited by: Guint McBass on 19/07/2007 08:46:12 No way once you **** of Evol the only people who could possibly take you under their wing are the goons. Evol just has that much pull.
Tonkin D00M. Triumvirate.	Posted - 2007.07.19 08:49:00 - [562] there no screenies yet, wanna see what the man took. hate corp theft but its part of the game. and as you say what goes around comes around
Astorothe Amarr Eve Defence Force Praesidium Libertatis	Posted - 2007.07.19 08:56:00 - [563] Scamming has no repurcussions in Eve Online. CCP allows it to occur under the guise of the whole sandbox nature of the game, the trouble is, is that there are no real world consequences of your actions as there would be in real life. It's not a sign of an intelligent scammer when a corp theft this size occurs, but rather a snap decision by the said scammer (Director/CEO) that he wants to take all of the corp assets for the hell of it, maybe because he's burnt out from polotics, or he's just bored, or someone in the corp jacked him off in some way, or what ever. Where as in real life, when Directors scam companies, they are usually prosecuted by law and government and an attempt is made to recover said assets, in Eve Online, CCP just says "no rules or game mechanics were broken so it's a fair theft". The guy behind the keyboard can just transfer the ISK to his Alternative accounts, and in that way he even removes the stain to his reputation and is "re born" as another player - but with loads of Assets. This false-loyalty has always been a problem for Corporations and Alliances. In real life bonds and trust is made and grown over time, but in Eve Online, it will never be that way. Not just for corp theft either - but member retention and loyalty in combat also. So no Kudos from me. Just another corp theft, just another day in Eve Online. No big deal really.
Don Z0LA Caldari TunDraGon	Posted - 2007.07.19 08:57:00 - [564] Originally by: Darko1107 Well done to whoever orchestrated this. Havent read the whole thread admitedly so might be just talking rubbish. Cant be bothered tbh. Any1 saying this lame needs to think about bobs history. At the end of the day, Bob betray peoples trust. I couldnt give a **** whether its long term or short term, its both the same to me. qft, seems this is bit of payback. And dont you remember same BOB defending corp thief which robbed corp for even bigger amount then this and joined them ? i dont see why should they get anyones sympathies when they aprove such acts, after all thing they are most famous for are betrayals.
FourthStorm Shinra	Posted - 2007.07.19 09:09:00 - [565] 1) Corp thieving is a dispicable act. 2) Goons enjoying the corp theft, just because its done to their enemy shows what moral character Goons are made of. 3) Seeing the banner signatures Goons are posting with, confirms my belief that Goons are ghey.
Blitz'Krieg Caldari SkyMarshal Logistics	Posted - 2007.07.19 09:11:00 - [566] There is no way in hell you would ever be able to track this guy if he didn't want to be tracked. He has enough money to buy 10 similer chars now if he wanted. The only thing that saddens me in this is that it is not goon planned. The repecussions would be mose amusing, akin to the decimation of d2 by the MC.
Lee Bian Amarryan Nations GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.07.19 09:13:00 - [567] Originally by: FourthStorm 3) Seeing the banner signatures Goons are posting with, confirms my belief that Goons are ghey. oh no!
Grimpak Gallente Trinity Nova KIA Alliance	Posted - 2007.07.19 09:15:00 - [568] Originally by: Lee Bian Originally by: FourthStorm 3) Seeing the banner signatures Goons are posting with, confirms my belief that Goons are ghey. oh no! DUDE! ....you're bald! --- truth about EVE: Quote: "Guns are fine, boost players" Quote: "Players are fine, boost guns"
Dracolich North Star Networks Cruel Intentions	Posted - 2007.07.19 09:22:00 - [569] No one deserves corp theft. It always make me feel sad, when I read or hear about such things - even if its the smallest of corps. Some people call this just a game. Truth be known that people within this game forged deep friendships, put more than daily work hours, and neglecting familiy issues - just to be "playing" this game. I don't think that anyone, who has responsibilities within Eve - call this merely a game. Corp theft is breaking trust - not only to that person in particular - but to pretty much everyone. _____________________________________ __________
Tetsujin GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.07.19 09:23:00 - [570] Edited by: Tetsujin on 19/07/2007 09:24:28 Originally by: gfldex I feel sorry for him. We lost one friend he lost all. His only options are now to join goon or quit EVE. What on Earth are you talking about the world and indeed the internet are both full of people he is possibly friends with. Originally by: Dracolich Some people call this just a game. Truth be known that people within this game forged deep friendships, put more than daily work hours, and neglecting familiy issues - just to be "playing" this game. I don't think that anyone, who has responsibilities within Eve - call this merely a game. I don't think anyone who "neglects family issues" should be playing this game. Their perspective is clearly warped.
Tetsujin GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.07.19 09:27:00 - [571] Originally by: FourthStorm 1) Corp thieving is a dispicable act. 2) Goons enjoying the corp theft, just because its done to their enemy shows what moral character Goons are made of. 3) Seeing the banner signatures Goons are posting with, confirms my belief that Goons are ghey. Mods please ban this player for homophobia.
Lee Bian Amarryan Nations GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.07.19 09:28:00 - [572] Originally by: Dracolich Some people call this just a game. Truth be known that people within this game forged deep friendships, put more than daily work hours, and neglecting familiy issues - just to be "playing" this game. could we get some names on people who do this because holy lol wait, it's you, isn't it?
Asylum Seaker Celtic Anarchy Anarchy Empire	Posted - 2007.07.19 09:30:00 - [573] What an interesting turn of events! The universe is hostile, so impersonal, devour to survive, so it is, so it's always been.
Ambre Blanche ICE is Coming to EVE Tau Ceti Federation	Posted - 2007.07.19 09:31:00 - [574] I despise corp thieves and all people who support them. They should be definitively banned out of the game Evolution guys, I only hope it was only a small blow on your assets and you will be soon what your are : a major corporation amongst the greatest PvP Alliance. See you in fight :) Ambre.
Guint McBass Minmatar GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.07.19 09:31:00 - [575] Im da pubbie neglecting my kid to fly internet spaceships
PartyPopper GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.07.19 10:00:00 - [576] Originally by: FourthStorm 2) Goons enjoying the corp theft, just because its done to their enemy shows what moral character Goons are made of. Remind me what you and your overlords' reaction was when you heard about Remedial running off with our titanfund? Oh yeah, same as ours. Grow a sense of humour :D
Jejed Aerythis Section XIII Tau Ceti Federation	Posted - 2007.07.19 10:01:00 - [577] Can I have your stuff
Orangir GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.07.19 10:06:00 - [578] Originally by: FourthStorm 2) Goons enjoying the corp theft, just because its done to their enemy shows what moral character Goons are made of. Our moral character backbone
Dracolich North Star Networks Cruel Intentions	Posted - 2007.07.19 10:07:00 - [579] Originally by: Lee Bian Originally by: Dracolich Some people call this just a game. Truth be known that people within this game forged deep friendships, put more than daily work hours, and neglecting familiy issues - just to be "playing" this game. could we get some names on people who do this because holy lol wait, it's you, isn't it? No, I don't play this game anymore - you on the other hand are probably ditching kindergarden to play. _____________________________________ __________
Lee Bian Amarryan Nations GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.07.19 10:07:00 - [580] Originally by: Jejed Aerythis Can I have your stuff can we trade because i'm bored with my stuff
Isben Yamas COLSUP Tau Ceti Federation	Posted - 2007.07.19 10:15:00 - [581] it's so evil! can i have an autograph please? Isben
Illiya Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.07.19 10:15:00 - [582] Edited by: Illiya on 19/07/2007 10:15:54 Originally by: Dracolich Originally by: Lee Bian Originally by: Dracolich Some people call this just a game. Truth be known that people within this game forged deep friendships, put more than daily work hours, and neglecting familiy issues - just to be "playing" this game. could we get some names on people who do this because holy lol wait, it's you, isn't it? No, I don't play this game anymore - you on the other hand are probably ditching kindergarden to play. :iceburn: but seriously, getting back to the issue at hand, anyone blaming us for laughing at bob has a very short memory. it wasnt even a month ago that over 25 billion in personal donations from goons was stolen by our founder and former ceo, remedial. at that time, the response from the majority of bob players and fans was as full of vitriol if not more than ours has been about bob's loss. of course we ONLY lost 25 billion. not THREE HUNDRED billion. so dont mind us while we laugh our asses off. this has been a pretty great stretch: shrike's titan, bob beaten back out of tenerifs, and right as our counter attack rolls on, evol loses what is apparently a significant portion of their strategic reserves. (oh and i heard something about several bob logistics guys quitting the corp too)
Hurad Takor Minmatar Stellar Convertors	Posted - 2007.07.19 10:21:00 - [583] Originally by: Illiya Edited by: Illiya on 19/07/2007 10:15:54 Originally by: Dracolich Originally by: Lee Bian Originally by: Dracolich Some people call this just a game. Truth be known that people within this game forged deep friendships, put more than daily work hours, and neglecting familiy issues - just to be "playing" this game. could we get some names on people who do this because holy lol wait, it's you, isn't it? No, I don't play this game anymore - you on the other hand are probably ditching kindergarden to play. :iceburn: but seriously, getting back to the issue at hand, anyone blaming us for laughing at bob has a very short memory. it wasnt even a month ago that over 25 billion in personal donations from goons was stolen by our founder and former ceo, remedial. at that time, the response from the majority of bob players and fans was as full of vitriol if not more than ours has been about bob's loss. of course we ONLY lost 25 billion. not THREE HUNDRED billion. so dont mind us while we laugh our asses off. this has been a pretty great stretch: shrike's titan, bob beaten back out of tenerifs, and right as our counter attack rolls on, evol loses what is apparently a significant portion of their strategic reserves. (oh and i heard something about several bob logistics guys quitting the corp too) dont forget the Evol member that are realy sucked of all the ratting and mining they must did for the titan lose and now this.. thats so ******* awesome ;D
gfldex Evolution Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.07.19 10:22:00 - [584] Originally by: Ambre Blanche I despise corp thieves and all people who support them. They should be definitively banned out of the game I disagree with you. IMHO corp theft is one of the best ways to get rid of greedy and selfish players. In a commy corp that is essential. The harm that a grumpy person that is in a constant bad mood can do in corp chat can be a lot bigger then his filthy fingers in corp hangars. -- There are countless games in the world. There are at least as many ppl that dont like one or more rules of said games. That never stopped smart game designers from creating good games.
Guint McBass Minmatar GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.07.19 10:31:00 - [585] Edited by: Guint McBass on 19/07/2007 10:32:40 Originally by: gfldex The harm that a grumpy person that is in a constant bad mood can do in corp chat can be a lot bigger then his filthy fingers in corp hangars. Yeah Flatliner was really dragging you guys down, much worse than losing a bunch of stuff.
Cynthila	Posted - 2007.07.19 10:31:00 - [586] I wonder how this went. Evolution petitioned for corp robbery and he got banned? I wonder if the same would happen if I do that. This smells.
Illiya Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.07.19 10:34:00 - [587] Originally by: gfldex Originally by: Ambre Blanche I despise corp thieves and all people who support them. They should be definitively banned out of the game I disagree with you. IMHO corp theft is one of the best ways to get rid of greedy and selfish players. In a commy corp that is essential. The harm that a grumpy person that is in a constant bad mood can do in corp chat can be a lot bigger then his filthy fingers in corp hangars. i think youre right. thats a pretty fair price to pay to get rid of one lousy player. doin some quick math here: 300,000,000,000.00 isk divided by 200,000,000.00 isk for a time card comes out to 1500 time cards. 1500 x 15.00 usd a time card is a rough loss of 22,500 us dollars. pretty nice severance package if you ask me.
Dracolich North Star Networks Cruel Intentions	Posted - 2007.07.19 10:34:00 - [588] Originally by: Illiya Edited by: Illiya on 19/07/2007 10:15:54 Originally by: Dracolich Originally by: Lee Bian Originally by: Dracolich Some people call this just a game. Truth be known that people within this game forged deep friendships, put more than daily work hours, and neglecting familiy issues - just to be "playing" this game. could we get some names on people who do this because holy lol wait, it's you, isn't it? No, I don't play this game anymore - you on the other hand are probably ditching kindergarden to play. :iceburn: but seriously, getting back to the issue at hand, anyone blaming us for laughing at bob has a very short memory. it wasnt even a month ago that over 25 billion in personal donations from goons was stolen by our founder and former ceo, remedial. at that time, the response from the majority of bob players and fans was as full of vitriol if not more than ours has been about bob's loss. of course we ONLY lost 25 billion. not THREE HUNDRED billion. so dont mind us while we laugh our asses off. this has been a pretty great stretch: shrike's titan, bob beaten back out of tenerifs, and right as our counter attack rolls on, evol loses what is apparently a significant portion of their strategic reserves. (oh and i heard something about several bob logistics guys quitting the corp too) I am not even talking about the BoB theft in particular, but all thefts. From the smallest to the biggest. In lieu with that I felt sorry for the GS community for being betrayed. Even though a vast majority of your players are like the one I responded to - betrayal is betrayal. _____________________________________ __________
Rodj Blake Amarr PIE Inc.	Posted - 2007.07.19 10:37:00 - [589] Edited by: Rodj Blake on 19/07/2007 10:37:32 Corp theft is wrong, no matter who it's done to. I'm sure that Evolution will be be big enough to accept that it was going to happen sooner or later and be able to chalk this one up to experience though. They amassed all of that wealth once, now they'll just go out there and do it again. Also, well done CCP on a good response. Dulce et decorum est pro imperium mori.
Flatliner Deep Core Mining Inc.	Posted - 2007.07.19 10:38:00 - [590] gfldex - I am not grumpy. Seriously lol. Im one of the happiest players in Eve honest!. Flatliner. Guess what im stroking
Illiya Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.07.19 10:39:00 - [591] Edited by: Illiya on 19/07/2007 10:39:14 Originally by: Flatliner gfldex - I am not grumpy. Seriously lol. Im one of the happiest players in Eve honest!. Flatliner. Guess what im stroking can we be friends? (i need isk for dictors and i hate to rat or mine)
Sir JoJo Minmatar Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.07.19 10:40:00 - [592] Originally by: Illiya Originally by: gfldex Originally by: Ambre Blanche I despise corp thieves and all people who support them. They should be definitively banned out of the game I disagree with you. IMHO corp theft is one of the best ways to get rid of greedy and selfish players. In a commy corp that is essential. The harm that a grumpy person that is in a constant bad mood can do in corp chat can be a lot bigger then his filthy fingers in corp hangars. i think youre right. thats a pretty fair price to pay to get rid of one lousy player. doin some quick math here: 300,000,000,000.00 isk divided by 200,000,000.00 isk for a time card comes out to 1500 time cards. 1500 x 15.00 usd a time card is a rough loss of 22,500 us dollars. pretty nice severance package if you ask me. Ofc a goon will do the math in whats it whorth in RL money, why dont that suprise me!
The Anointed Caldari KR0M The Red Skull	Posted - 2007.07.19 10:40:00 - [593] Havent seen it put in the thread sofar, but everyone seems to forget that BoB is not a 1 corp alliance. If this was a real end game amount of isk, then whats more likely? In the short term the blow is lessend with help from the rest of the alliance, or they dont help and evol ends up being in a position of struggling to fight, (again, assuming it actually is a big blow), and they loose hundreds of members from their alliance? BoB have got to be the most permanent residents of 0.0 space that I can remember, and the amount of money, even in communist style corps, that individual members can accumulate is staggering, and thats coming from personal experience of a region such as Fade, which everyone knows doesnt begin to compare to Fountain and others. Worst case scenario is they might sell another state/tribal issue ship from the last tourny, oh noes. (Again, thats assuming they were not taken, but if they were then the estimates would have been way higher than 300bil) Now here is the reason people need to post with the character being sold at auction, imagine buying that off the forums, then finding out who it was, lol.
gfldex Evolution Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.07.19 10:42:00 - [594] Originally by: Cynthila Edited by: Cynthila on 19/07/2007 10:37:29 I wonder how this went. Evolution petitioned for corp robbery and he got banned? I wonder if the same would happen if I do that. This smells. And if Evolution didn't petition it, why did he get banned? The last big scammer tried to sell the stuff he stolen on ebay. I know that at least one such petition was filed. Please take into account that any player, in Evolution or not, can file petitions. Even if we disagree with such actions. -- There are countless games in the world. There are at least as many ppl that dont like one or more rules of said games. That never stopped smart game designers from creating good games.
Illiya Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.07.19 10:46:00 - [595] Originally by: Sir JoJo Originally by: Illiya Originally by: gfldex Originally by: Ambre Blanche I despise corp thieves and all people who support them. They should be definitively banned out of the game I disagree with you. IMHO corp theft is one of the best ways to get rid of greedy and selfish players. In a commy corp that is essential. The harm that a grumpy person that is in a constant bad mood can do in corp chat can be a lot bigger then his filthy fingers in corp hangars. i think youre right. thats a pretty fair price to pay to get rid of one lousy player. doin some quick math here: 300,000,000,000.00 isk divided by 200,000,000.00 isk for a time card comes out to 1500 time cards. 1500 x 15.00 usd a time card is a rough loss of 22,500 us dollars. pretty nice severance package if you ask me. Ofc a goon will do the math in whats it whorth in RL money, why dont that suprise me! ofc a bob will try to downplay the loss by saying ofc a goon will calculate the worth.
Bluestealth Minmatar BlueLabs	Posted - 2007.07.19 10:48:00 - [596] Originally by: Sir JoJo Originally by: Illiya Originally by: gfldex Originally by: Ambre Blanche I despise corp thieves and all people who support them. They should be definitively banned out of the game I disagree with you. IMHO corp theft is one of the best ways to get rid of greedy and selfish players. In a commy corp that is essential. The harm that a grumpy person that is in a constant bad mood can do in corp chat can be a lot bigger then his filthy fingers in corp hangars. i think youre right. thats a pretty fair price to pay to get rid of one lousy player. doin some quick math here: 300,000,000,000.00 isk divided by 200,000,000.00 isk for a time card comes out to 1500 time cards. 1500 x 15.00 usd a time card is a rough loss of 22,500 us dollars. pretty nice severance package if you ask me. Ofc a goon will do the math in whats it whorth in RL money, why dont that suprise me! Whatever are you still doing with those BoB tags.... *smacks Sir JoJo
Illiya Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.07.19 10:52:00 - [597] 1500 30 day time cards = 45000 days of free play. 45000 days divided by 365.25 days in a given year (.25 to account for leap years) = 123 years and 2 months (and a handful of days.)
Plague Black 4S Corporation	Posted - 2007.07.19 10:54:00 - [598] Corp theft is wrong. Unless you steal from BOB. Imho.
cHeRrY MuFfInMan mUfFiN fAcToRy	Posted - 2007.07.19 10:55:00 - [599] HAHAH! you got what you deserve! the Dev's GAVE you all that money/resources anyway! HAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAA!!!!!!!!!!! http://dl.eve-files.com/media/0609/CHerry_SIG_jaypeg.jpg Signature filesize exceeds max limit of 24000 bytes. Mail us if you have questions -Eldo Davip
Illiya Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.07.19 10:57:00 - [600] snip removed as related to previously removed post - and sorry i post in gold not orange - hutch
Lookatmi Hooters	Posted - 2007.07.19 11:02:00 - [601] Posting with an unidentified character in this forum is prohibited, if you wish to participate in the discussions here, be sure to have your corporation and or alliance status ticked in your forum settings. - Huitzilopochtli Tlaloc ([email protected])
Astro Teller Milf Riders	Posted - 2007.07.19 11:09:00 - [602] Edited by: Astro Teller on 19/07/2007 11:09:30 Edited by: Astro Teller on 19/07/2007 11:09:03 you know when i first heard about this i was all like..ohh hell yah down with bob. then i thought well- getting your stuff stolen through corp theft really sucks but then i remembered this is eve online, and i LOLed @ evol again. take that you commies! also this is what they call karma Milf Riders
Farrrr Que	Posted - 2007.07.19 11:15:00 - [603] Epic Thread , been pmsl for a good half hour :) full props to the thief
Arcane Mystery Wreckless Abandon Triumvirate.	Posted - 2007.07.19 11:17:00 - [604] After reading most of this thread and the original thread about the theft I've got a few things on my mind about this. First off, I think CCP did the right thing by temporary disabling the account of the thief to check that it was not hacked or something like that. Any theft of this scale should be investigated quick before assets are transfered around to a horde of alts just in case it's a hacked in other ways wrongfully accessed account. Second, any theft from people who trust you and who you've been friends with is a dispicable act. There's no glory or respect to be earned from what Flatliner did. In my opinion this is about as low as it gets. Third, even though I not friends with BoB I do wish Evolution best of luck in recovering from the losses.
Malookai Caldari Zoroaster Corp	Posted - 2007.07.19 11:17:00 - [605] If truth runs to form they'll probably get it all back , +50% interest . +25% emotional distress payment
Zeveron Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.07.19 11:23:00 - [606] Evol and BoB took a hit, big or small, time will tell. If you guys think that Evol and BoB are that weak atm: JUST BRING IT
cHeRrY MuFfInMan mUfFiN fAcToRy	Posted - 2007.07.19 11:28:00 - [607] stop with the snip I didn't go off topic. corp theft is a part of EVE. It's the part of EVE where you gain somebody's trust then stab them in the back 3 years later! I'm sure he had it planned all along! NOT! this was a crime of passion, obviously the guy (nameless corp thief) got ****ed off and was like, "yo... S.C.R.E.W. you guys I'm going HOME!--->" and he cleared out the hanger and corp wallet! so Kudos to the Thief! BoB really should not have given corp. Hanger/wallet rights, that is P.O.S./Outpost rule #1 love: Cherry P.S. I would love to shake your hand! "nameless corp thief" you really raised the bar for all the rest of the corp thief's in EVE. So I guess the new record to strive for is (300 billion) good luck everyone! go out their and shoot for the stars like this guy did! HAHAHAHHA LMFAO @ BOB http://dl.eve-files.com/media/0609/CHerry_SIG_jaypeg.jpg Signature filesize exceeds max limit of 24000 bytes. Mail us if you have questions -Eldo Davip
Eurydyke	Posted - 2007.07.19 11:31:00 - [608] Originally by: Zeveron Evol and BoB are that weak atm: JUST BRING IT BACK Fixed
SaKoil GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.07.19 11:31:00 - [609] Edited by: SaKoil on 19/07/2007 11:31:15 Originally by: gfldex IMHO corp theft is one of the best ways to get rid of greedy and selfish players. In a commy corp that is essential. I wonder how many other greedy and selfish players you will have the pleasure to get rid of at 300b a pop, especially if the war starts to go downhill with your bunch of brothers. Lets all hope it is less than, say 10
Orangir GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.07.19 11:33:00 - [610] Edited by: Orangir on 19/07/2007 11:33:26 Originally by: Zeveron Evol and BoB took a hit, big or small, time will tell. If you guys think that Evol and BoB are that weak atm: JUST BRING IT Ok. You guys going to show up in D2EZ when the server comes back up to defend your large towers, or are you going to continue to let Rise do your dirty work?
cHeRrY MuFfInMan mUfFiN fAcToRy	Posted - 2007.07.19 11:35:00 - [611] wow!! I know this is off topic and wont last long but whats with the Erotic sigs from these goonswarm guys? (a.k.a. tech1 frigat blobers) lol -cherry P.S. you snip and sensor my post's but let these goon guys use that Nasty sig? LOL whatever! http://dl.eve-files.com/media/0609/CHerry_SIG_jaypeg.jpg Signature filesize exceeds max limit of 24000 bytes. Mail us if you have questions -Eldo Davip
Popperr GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.07.19 11:37:00 - [612] Originally by: Zeveron Evol and BoB took a hit, big or small, time will tell. If you guys think that Evol and BoB are that weak atm: JUST BRING IT Bring what? Stront? Dreads? Command ships? Can you give me a list?
Marodi Alivar SUBLIME L.L.C. SMASH Alliance	Posted - 2007.07.19 11:40:00 - [613] considering everything BoB has done, such as exploits, offlining towers, and everything else... I'm glad that karma comes around.
Farrrr Que	Posted - 2007.07.19 11:44:00 - [614] Reprocess the lot and offer to sell the mins back at a inflated price :)
DTee The Huns	Posted - 2007.07.19 11:49:00 - [615] Edited by: DTee on 19/07/2007 11:55:34 This doesn't really come as a surprise. BoB has done this to people and what goes around comes around. ISK is always replaceable. What does bother me are those friends of mine who worked hard for those ships. I guess even Molle's arrogance couldn't stop this. Most of the dread stuff came from ASCN at a fraction of the cost anyway. So i guess it doesn't hurt too bad ai? I hope the good guys in EVOl manage to recover (which i know they will).
Dungar Loghoth Caldari Black Omega Security Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2007.07.19 11:54:00 - [616] Originally by: Sir JoJo Originally by: Illiya Originally by: gfldex Originally by: Ambre Blanche I despise corp thieves and all people who support them. They should be definitively banned out of the game I disagree with you. IMHO corp theft is one of the best ways to get rid of greedy and selfish players. In a commy corp that is essential. The harm that a grumpy person that is in a constant bad mood can do in corp chat can be a lot bigger then his filthy fingers in corp hangars. i think youre right. thats a pretty fair price to pay to get rid of one lousy player. doin some quick math here: 300,000,000,000.00 isk divided by 200,000,000.00 isk for a time card comes out to 1500 time cards. 1500 x 15.00 usd a time card is a rough loss of 22,500 us dollars. pretty nice severance package if you ask me. Ofc a goon will do the math in whats it whorth in RL money, why dont that suprise me! A sum this large is pretty hard to image, what else is he supposed to use to calculate the value of the theft, caracals or crystal epsilons?
Cpt Pugwash Rubra Libertas Militia Insurgency	Posted - 2007.07.19 12:07:00 - [617] Originally by: DTee Edited by: DTee on 19/07/2007 11:55:34 This doesn't really come as a surprise. BoB has done this to people and what goes around comes around. ISK is always replaceable. What does bother me are those friends of mine who worked hard for those ships. I guess even Molle's arrogance couldn't stop this. Most of the dread stuff came from ASCN at a fraction of the cost anyway. So i guess it doesn't hurt too bad ai? I hope the good guys in EVOl manage to recover (which i know they will). With the recent setbacks Evol have suffered I am surprised you Huns aren't looking for a new master. Movies: Make Mine a Bob Light
Lord MuffloN Caldari Omen Incorporated Storm Armada	Posted - 2007.07.19 12:10:00 - [618] This thread is useless without a list or pictures.
Diehard Si UK1 Zero Red Moon Federation	Posted - 2007.07.19 12:11:00 - [619] A wounded beast becomes a hell of a lot more dangerous. I'm looking forward to the backlash to this. -------------------------------------- Lets face it, people that use the word 'noob' are blatantly either 12 or with more friends on the internet than in real life!
DTee The Huns	Posted - 2007.07.19 12:13:00 - [620] Edited by: DTee on 19/07/2007 12:14:19 Quote: With the recent setbacks Evol have suffered I am surprised you Huns aren't looking for a new master. Oh yes we are. Do you offer any descent pet plans? or are you just forums trolls?
Cpt Pugwash Rubra Libertas Militia Insurgency	Posted - 2007.07.19 12:14:00 - [621] Originally by: DTee Originally by: Cpt Pugwash Originally by: DTee Edited by: DTee on 19/07/2007 11:55:34 This doesn't really come as a surprise. BoB has done this to people and what goes around comes around. ISK is always replaceable. What does bother me are those friends of mine who worked hard for those ships. I guess even Molle's arrogance couldn't stop this. Most of the dread stuff came from ASCN at a fraction of the cost anyway. So i guess it doesn't hurt too bad ai? I hope the good guys in EVOl manage to recover (which i know they will). With the recent setbacks Evol have suffered I am surprised you Huns aren't looking for a new master. Oh yes we are. Do you offer any descent pet plans? I prefer my friends to have backbone Movies: Make Mine a Bob Light
DTee The Huns	Posted - 2007.07.19 12:16:00 - [622] Originally by: Cpt Pugwash Originally by: DTee Originally by: Cpt Pugwash Originally by: DTee Edited by: DTee on 19/07/2007 11:55:34 This doesn't really come as a surprise. BoB has done this to people and what goes around comes around. ISK is always replaceable. What does bother me are those friends of mine who worked hard for those ships. I guess even Molle's arrogance couldn't stop this. Most of the dread stuff came from ASCN at a fraction of the cost anyway. So i guess it doesn't hurt too bad ai? I hope the good guys in EVOl manage to recover (which i know they will). With the recent setbacks Evol have suffered I am surprised you Huns aren't looking for a new master. Oh yes we are. Do you offer any descent pet plans? I prefer my friends to have backbone The kind that docks? hugs npc stations? logs off and logs on kind of backbone or am i confused here?
Cpt Pugwash Rubra Libertas Militia Insurgency	Posted - 2007.07.19 12:17:00 - [623] Originally by: DTee I prefer my friends to have backbone The kind that docks? hugs npc stations? logs off and logs on kind of backbone or am i confused here? Just so long as they don't change sides at the first sign of trouble Movies: Make Mine a Bob Light
DTee The Huns	Posted - 2007.07.19 12:19:00 - [624] Edited by: DTee on 19/07/2007 12:24:37 Originally by: Cpt Pugwash Originally by: DTee I prefer my friends to have backbone The kind that docks? hugs npc stations? logs off and logs on kind of backbone or am i confused here? Just so long as they don't change sides at the first sign of trouble Change sides? Trust me this corp spent long enough in fountain. Even when CELES were there. I haven't been here long enough to even hold up its name. The HUNS left the south a long time before any real trouble kicked off in terms of the war. Funnily enough it wasn't really trouble since BoB still sent everyone back home. Anyway Its ok though being bitter isn't that bad. hows Venal?
pershphanie Generals Of Destruction Syndicate	Posted - 2007.07.19 12:21:00 - [625] Originally by: Plim Originally by: pershphanie Edited by: pershphanie on 19/07/2007 00:10:05 The only thing more disgusting than flatlinner's actions are all of you who are trying to rationalize this behavior because it happened to someone you dont like. If this happened to someone you liked you would all be talking about how terrible this is. You should all be ashamed of yourselves. Damn that almost made me feel bad for 0.00001 of a second after my last laughing fit. Seriously though, the karma comment pretty much nails it. I hope most people can't have any sympathy for an alliance which is pretty much based on this kind of crap, doesnÆt ask for sympathy anyway and spends much of the time being one giant collective bad mannered ass to the entire community. It's not that long since BoB members were posting stuff from people's internal forums on these boards. However, if you want, you can picture BoB as a little kitten called Robert staring up at you teary eyed because someone has stolen his milk. But that would be somewhat misrepresentive of the situation. Cute image though. Regardless of whether or not they deserved it or not you all applauding and encouraging corp thieves makes you no better and no less deserving than bob to have the same thing happen to you guys. So you might want to cut down on the preaching about karma. While you're at it are all of you anti-bob ppl going to stop acting like you're morally superior now that you've shown you're true colors? Originally by: CYVOK I am sure everyone here is aware of my view of this type of action in any online environment. Unlike those in BoB who have laughed at and congratulated in the past Corp thefts against CLS/ASCN I won't do the same. On this one issue alone I support BoB and sincerely hope they can recover their items or at the very least get some retribution. My advice is to BoB, band together as an Alliance and replace what was lost as a team as quickly as possible. Don't get all paranoid, don't go on a witch hunt. To the thief, congratulations on your heist, your leet, now do the honorable thing and return the items to their rightful owner. No players deserve to have their game ruined by your actions. ààà Or you can transfer all loot me. -CYVOK- Good to see some people still have a little class. ------>PҼſϚի<------
Cpt Pugwash Rubra Libertas Militia Insurgency	Posted - 2007.07.19 12:26:00 - [626] Originally by: DTee Change sides? Trust me this corp spent long enough in fountain. Even when CELES were there. I haven't been here long enough to even hold up its name. Its ok though being bitter isn't that bad. hows Venal? Spent long enough in Fountain then turned on your friends and joined their enemies. Flatliner spent long enough in Evol then turned on his friends and took them for all he could. You have much in common perhaps you should try recruit him. Movies: Make Mine a Bob Light
Sidrat Flush Caldari Vendetta Underground Rule of Three	Posted - 2007.07.19 12:28:00 - [627] The trouble with corp theives is that the character name (and associated alts) will always be tarred with a very dark and smelly brush. Few corps will touch him with a barge pole, especially as it could mean being on a perma-hitlist not just from the corp they stole from but from all the other corps who dislike corp thieves. There's "nicer" ways of damaging an alliance or corporation internally than re-posessing assets, and I will never condone corp/alliance theft. Life is about memories the more the better. End Slavery.
DTee The Huns	Posted - 2007.07.19 12:28:00 - [628] Edited by: DTee on 19/07/2007 12:34:57 Originally by: Cpt Pugwash Originally by: DTee Change sides? Trust me this corp spent long enough in fountain. Even when CELES were there. I haven't been here long enough to even hold up its name. Its ok though being bitter isn't that bad. hows Venal? Spent long enough in Fountain then turned on your friends and joined their enemies. Flatliner spent long enough in Evol then turned on his friends and took them for all he could. You have much in common perhaps you should try recruit him. I have no idea what your talking about. I think your slightly confused. What enemies are you talking about by the way? Sorry i didn't realise it was any of your business what we were doing? btw aren't STK your friends? who are now in M.PiRE? were those the kidn of friends you were talking about? :/
Flatliner Deep Core Mining Inc.	Posted - 2007.07.19 12:29:00 - [629] Since I've had many requests for proof of the heist - Here's a quick picture, don't ask for lot's of pics, far too much to photograph. http://i12.tinypic.com/67z4yn8.jpg Enjoy! Flatliner. PS. Thanks to the GM team who went through this affair with professionalism and prowess.
Baline Aegis Tau Ceti Federation	Posted - 2007.07.19 12:29:00 - [630] Edited by: Baline Aegis on 19/07/2007 12:32:25 Originally by: pershphanie Regardless of whether or not they deserved it or not you all applauding and encouraging corp thieves makes you no better and no less deserving than bob to have the same thing happen to you guys. If i remember well, it has happened, and after some bob reaction on this forum concerning remedial's thieft, i understand why goonies are... ehh, what's the word ? Exhilarated ? Tick, tock. The pendulum has swung. @Flatliner : can you make your image larger, Mr Cadbury ? :)
Lord MuffloN Caldari Omen Incorporated Storm Armada	Posted - 2007.07.19 12:30:00 - [631] Edited by: Lord MuffloN on 19/07/2007 12:30:23 Originally by: Flatliner Since I've had many requests for proof of the heist - Here's a quick picture, don't ask for lot's of pics, far too much to photograph. http://i12.tinypic.com/67z4yn8.jpg Enjoy! Flatliner. PS. Thanks to the GM team who went through this affair with professionalism and prowess. Post some of the goodies instead >>
maGz Spartan Industries Cruel Intentions	Posted - 2007.07.19 12:37:00 - [632] Originally by: Flatliner Since I've had many requests for proof of the heist - Here's a quick picture, don't ask for lot's of pics, far too much to photograph. http://i12.tinypic.com/67z4yn8.jpg Enjoy! Flatliner. PS. Thanks to the GM team who went through this affair with professionalism and prowess. Screenie of wallet + expanded assets in one of those stations ____________
Ebusitanus Segunda Fundacion O X I D E	Posted - 2007.07.19 12:46:00 - [633] Corp theft is worse since you can not bring real retribution on the thief beyond name calling him on the forum and chat. This makes any childish fit between corp mates a potential drama for the whole corp. I mean...22.500 US bucks would get you into LOTS of real life trouble if you would do it to your local biker gang. ------------------------------------------------ "Stop quoting laws, we carry weapons!" Pompey the Great to the defenders of a besieged city who were crying outrage.
Orangir GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.07.19 12:51:00 - [634] Originally by: Flatliner http://i12.tinypic.com/67z4yn8.jpg Oh hello there Goatse.
WisdomLikeSilence Gunfleet Logistics Rogue Method Alliance	Posted - 2007.07.19 12:54:00 - [635] I heartliy endorse this product or service. My advice to BOB is to suspect your closest friends, distrust them and leverage this lack of trust to mount a witch hunt against alliance mates you really dont like. Gradually retreat into a shell of recrimination and unfounded allegations. Oh and wear tissue boxes on your feet to stop the dirty germs. Also never cut your fingernails, the CIA might be analysing them, to read secret codes written in keratin and mind-rays.
Ruyter principle of motion Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2007.07.19 13:00:00 - [636] Originally by: Flatliner Since I've had many requests for proof of the heist - Here's a quick picture, don't ask for lot's of pics, far too much to photograph. http://i12.tinypic.com/67z4yn8.jpg Enjoy! Flatliner. PS. Thanks to the GM team who went through this affair with professionalism and prowess. Heeyy wanna join my corp? Entry is only 100b, once inside you can steal whatever you want. On a sidenote, what we're your reasons and motivation? I wanna know
I SoStoned	Posted - 2007.07.19 13:02:00 - [637] Originally by: Minas Reul I hope nobody thinks this is okay just because it's BoB, even if you are enemies in game. Yes, it is 100% okay... nay, 1000% okay, to steel BoB (Evolution) utterly blind, and laugh in their faces about it, by any means available. Good f'ing job, FL!!! Huzza! And no, I don't want any of that uuber nice stuff. Just knowing Evol/BoB got bent over and introduced to the sandpaper condom (without so much as a reacharound) is too damned rich.
Ebusitanus Segunda Fundacion O X I D E	Posted - 2007.07.19 13:09:00 - [638] Maybe this is a devious plot to make BOB look more sympathetic to the playerbase. Who knows if Flatliner will just not go ahead and return everything in a week or two in a goon-style prank. ------------------------------------------------ "Stop quoting laws, we carry weapons!" Pompey the Great to the defenders of a besieged city who were crying outrage.
Cruzius Endica Enterprises	Posted - 2007.07.19 13:14:00 - [639] Corp Theft isn¦t the finest way to get some ISK, but it¦s a game mechanic to secure your assets. if you don¦t, **** happens... I don¦t think that this incident is that hard Hit to Evol or BoB, all are seeminlgy hoping for. Okay it¦s a lot of work to replace all the losses but it¦s still just ISK. Wait and see how Evol reacts. Surely there must be some kind of punishment inside the Corp, however this will look like.
Kozak Caldari The Collective Against ALL Authorities	Posted - 2007.07.19 13:15:00 - [640] Originally by: Diehard Si A wounded beast becomes a hell of a lot more dangerous. I'm looking forward to the backlash to this. I hope it's as swift and as ruthless as the backlash from Shrike's Titan kill...
Psilocin Amarr GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.07.19 13:18:00 - [641] Originally by: Kozak Originally by: Diehard Si A wounded beast becomes a hell of a lot more dangerous. I'm looking forward to the backlash to this. I hope it's as swift and as ruthless as the backlash from Shrike's Titan kill... Maybe if the pets repeat the same thing enough times it'll eventually happen?
Alias11 GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.07.19 13:19:00 - [642] Originally by: Psilocin Originally by: Kozak Originally by: Diehard Si A wounded beast becomes a hell of a lot more dangerous. I'm looking forward to the backlash to this. I hope it's as swift and as ruthless as the backlash from Shrike's Titan kill... Maybe if the pets repeat the same thing enough times it'll eventually happen? No dude you can totally fuel poses on brotherhood
Indomitus Rex Amarr H.Y.D.R.A. GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.07.19 13:21:00 - [643] Edited by: Indomitus Rex on 19/07/2007 13:22:17 This thread is utterly hilarious. But utterly worthless w/o screenshots. Call me a Doubting Thomas or w/e, but I'd like to see exactly what he swiped. EDIT: And Elmo, you mediocre forum mod. Could you please remove your "hey, that sig sucks" since you locked my sig where I can't do anything to it? That orange (and your name at the end of it) is rather annoying. Sig removed. If you would like further details please mail [email protected] with a link to your signature. - Elmo Pug
Pesadel0 Ordem dos Templarios Pax Atlantis	Posted - 2007.07.19 13:39:00 - [644] Originally by: Cpt Pugwash Originally by: DTee I prefer my friends to have backbone The kind that docks? hugs npc stations? logs off and logs on kind of backbone or am i confused here? Just so long as they don't change sides at the first sign of trouble Lol ....cpt go away troll. As for the theft ,i think evol isn't going to implode ,just has goons didn't implode when were robbed. I was sworn to absolute secrecy BY CCP.
Psilocin Amarr GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.07.19 13:43:00 - [645] Originally by: FourthStorm 1) Corp thieving is a dispicable act. 2) Goons enjoying the corp theft, just because its done to their enemy shows what moral character Goons are made of. snip - keep it civil. -Ivan K Bitter much? Why don't you retake Tenerifis over it....oh wai
Silvestri Knights of Chaos Chaos Incarnate.	Posted - 2007.07.19 13:44:00 - [646] Well, I hate Corp thefts....even for Bob. I hate to see it happen even to BoB. But... I think Sir Molle will adapt and adjust. It is a blow though and to see if the Coalition can capatilize on it.... Might even be a good time to bring down another capital shipyard. Didn't they have 2 in that system that lag filled day?? I'd like to see BoB go down but not because of espionage...but it is a game and to be played as such. Was there a post by Sir Molle in this book? I didnt' check every page....Note to self....never fly with Flatliner...lol. gratz CCP for looking into it so fast...now fix lag and desync and Eve can be Uber again... Hey I hear my company Avid is coming out with a massive storage system called Kong....look into it!!
Chrysalis D'lilth	Posted - 2007.07.19 13:48:00 - [647] Posting with an unidentified character in this forum is prohibited, if you wish to participate in the discussions here, be sure to have your corporation and or alliance status ticked in your forum settings. - Huitzilopochtli Tlaloc ([email protected])
Jim Lovell Gallente Umbra Congregatio Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2007.07.19 14:20:00 - [648] Avid as in the company that made SoftImage??
Dionisius Gallente Ordem dos Templarios Pax Atlantis	Posted - 2007.07.19 14:27:00 - [649] Originally by: Pesadel0 Originally by: Cpt Pugwash Originally by: DTee I prefer my friends to have backbone The kind that docks? hugs npc stations? logs off and logs on kind of backbone or am i confused here? Just so long as they don't change sides at the first sign of trouble Lol ....cpt go away troll. As for the theft ,i think evol isn't going to implode ,just has goons didn't implode when were robbed. Imagine Evol and Goons imploding each in its corner of the universe, sucking all iskies and matter into its dark core were all light vanishes... ...creepy. _______________________ Originally by: Splagada Edited by: Splagada on 21/06/2007 13:51:39 in eve you can break their windows, take over the house, and throw the children in the fire.
Pehova Mindtriq Celestial Apocalypse Insurgency	Posted - 2007.07.19 14:33:00 - [650] Originally by: pershphanie Regardless of whether or not they deserved it or not you all applauding and encouraging corp thieves makes you no better and no less deserving than bob to have the same thing happen to you guys. So you might want to cut down on the preaching about karma. While you're at it are all of you anti-bob ppl going to stop acting like you're morally superior now that you've shown you're true colors? So if a scammer get scammed and I appluad it I deserve to get scammed myself? Why? Most of the people don't encourage corp thefts but EVOL have shown before that they do and boasted about it on the forums even. (remember IRON's zydrine?) I think this corp theft was fair but I don't encourage it for those that doesn't deserve it. Celestial Apocalypse Recruitment
Tobruk Black Omega Security	Posted - 2007.07.19 14:44:00 - [651] sory evol natural selection is a *****. ---------------------------------------------- Sig removed. Elmo Pug removed my sig because he hates me
Silvestri Knights of Chaos Chaos Incarnate.	Posted - 2007.07.19 14:49:00 - [652] Edited by: Silvestri on 19/07/2007 14:49:19 Originally by: Jim Lovell Avid as in the company that made SoftImage?? JIM LOVELL IS STILL MY HERO!!!! Minus the times you'd shoot at me in your scorpion in my IAC days...lol. Yes the company that acquired SoftImage. SoftImage has been doing some great things to include a recent deal with EASports. It's in the game!!
Jim Lovell Gallente Umbra Congregatio Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2007.07.19 14:52:00 - [653] WOW
TrevorReznik Merch Industrial We Are Nice Guys	Posted - 2007.07.19 15:01:00 - [654] I guess this theft would've been perfectly fine for most people if instead of stealing POSes he'd simply offlined & unanchored them so they could be scooped by the RSF?
Moon Kitten Gallente GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.07.19 15:29:00 - [655] Originally by: TrevorReznik I guess this theft would've been perfectly fine for most people if instead of stealing POSes he'd simply offlined & unanchored them so they could be scooped by the RSF? Yes, that would have been very honorable as opposed to this very despicable act. Corp thievery is always wrong but betraying your alliance or corporation is always right. I live under a bridge
Plim Gallente Celestial Apocalypse Insurgency	Posted - 2007.07.19 16:22:00 - [656] Originally by: pershphanie Regardless of whether or not they deserved it or not you all applauding and encouraging corp thieves makes you no better and no less deserving than bob to have the same thing happen to you guys. So you might want to cut down on the preaching about karma. While you're at it are all of you anti-bob ppl going to stop acting like you're morally superior now that you've shown you're true colors? We did have a corp thief once. That corp thief (who was atuk/DICE I think) infiltrated Celes temporarily, got away with a small amount of isk and was later in BoB. He was also a complete ass about it on these forums and generally acted like a 4 year old. Why do you think i'm laughing? Only what has happened to BoB is probably like 800000 higher in value. HAR HAR. Do you start rambling about how uncouth it is when BoB start infiltrating people's corps and posting thier internal forums on here? When they started POS bowling? When they infiltrate people's ventrillo and screw with thier fleets? Social engineering eh? When thier useful idiots start spamming the forums with smack on occasion? I'm not encouraging corp thieves. I'm encouraging irony. If the big fat sadistic kid at a school runs up a hill going "LOL I WINNED THE CASTLE AND YOUR POCKET MONEY", then procceeds to fall off and look like a buffoon. I'm not going to have any empathy for the daft kid who comes up and starts saying I shouldn't point and laugh. You can seriously expect me to not take the **** out of BoB when the exact thing happens to them, that they have done to everyone else? When they encourage this kind of gaming? Again, it's hilarious. Poor bob teh kitten Rudolf: "I was sworn to absolute secrecy by Santa Claus."
crice Caldari CRICE Corporation	Posted - 2007.07.19 16:25:00 - [657] Like an old friend said... "Never trust anyone in EvE". crice
frozenphil GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.07.19 16:25:00 - [658] Edited by: frozenphil on 19/07/2007 16:24:32 Originally by: Moon Kitten Originally by: TrevorReznik I guess this theft would've been perfectly fine for most people if instead of stealing POSes he'd simply offlined & unanchored them so they could be scooped by the RSF? Yes, that would have been very honorable as opposed to this very despicable act. Corp thievery is always wrong but betraying your alliance or corporation is always right. Not everyone has the moral fiber those of us in GoonFleet posses.
Cippalippus Primus GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.07.19 16:29:00 - [659] If possible, I'd like to buy a Crow and some T2 cruise launchers. Send contracts to this char, I don't like doing haulings with my alt.
Cippalippus Primus GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.07.19 16:29:00 - [660] If possible, I'd like to buy a Crow and some T2 cruise launchers. Send contracts to this char, I don't like doing haulings with my alt.
Riddari VIT	Posted - 2007.07.19 16:33:00 - [661] Last day of 5-day free pass, just barely made it in to comment! I truly believe EVE would have been a much more fun game if CCP had not allowed corp thefts, I've had my share of corp thefts and find them despicable. However as pointed out, probably no corporation harbors more members (GHSC was more drama than results sorry HG) that have participated in corp thefts than Evolution. I do admire much of what EVOL have done and despite my open objection to them un the past, due to their meta-gaming of thefts, offlining, betrayal and so on, I know quite a few good people there I wouldn't mind sharing a beverage of choice with. Despite what was taken I doubt it will cripple them, they have some really talented and dedicated people at the wheels. I'm too old fashioned to play EVE as it is and this case demonstrates. I want to take part in games where a team vs team ethos prevails, although with politics between the corps within a team (alliance, coalition) could lead to betrayal etc., the corp should be sacrosant. I know I wouldn't play team sports if I could expect my goalkeeper to score an own goal at the final minute of a match because he was planted there 2 years earlier by the opposing team... So, just another day in EVE only this time the usual takers ended up on the other side of the table. EVOL have known about this danger from Day 1, its a marker of their good judgement of member rights that it took 4 years until something of such scale occured. Riddari out. ¼+¼ a history The fall of ASCN
Riddari VIT	Posted - 2007.07.19 16:33:00 - [662] Last day of 5-day free pass, just barely made it in to comment! I truly believe EVE would have been a much more fun game if CCP had not allowed corp thefts, I've had my share of corp thefts and find them despicable. However as pointed out, probably no corporation harbors more members (GHSC was more drama than results sorry HG) that have participated in corp thefts than Evolution. I do admire much of what EVOL have done and despite my open objection to them un the past, due to their meta-gaming of thefts, offlining, betrayal and so on, I know quite a few good people there I wouldn't mind sharing a beverage of choice with. Despite what was taken I doubt it will cripple them, they have some really talented and dedicated people at the wheels. I'm too old fashioned to play EVE as it is and this case demonstrates. I want to take part in games where a team vs team ethos prevails, although with politics between the corps within a team (alliance, coalition) could lead to betrayal etc., the corp should be sacrosant. I know I wouldn't play team sports if I could expect my goalkeeper to score an own goal at the final minute of a match because he was planted there 2 years earlier by the opposing team... So, just another day in EVE only this time the usual takers ended up on the other side of the table. EVOL have known about this danger from Day 1, its a marker of their good judgement of member rights that it took 4 years until something of such scale occured. Riddari out. ¼+¼ a history The fall of ASCN
Illiya Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.07.19 16:51:00 - [663] Originally by: Flatliner This forum is for players involved in Corporations and Alliances, members of NPC corps may post in the Corporations and Alliances Summit, or in the Crime and Punishment forums. - Huitzilopochtli Tlaloc ([email protected]) I dont mean to insult a mod, but are you daft? Flatliner, Huitzlerekitrwjha Tialdochch, is the guy who this thread is about. You guys, the moderators, closed the other thread that WASN'T in CAOD and told us to post here. So he's not allowed to post about this anywhere else because it belongs in CAOD but he cant post about it in CAOD because he's not currently in an alliance because he pulled off the biggest theft in MMORPG history? Seriously, you need to read a thread and understand it BEFORE you bring out the moderation.
Nyack GREY COUNCIL Cruel Intentions	Posted - 2007.07.19 16:52:00 - [664] Edited by: Nyack on 19/07/2007 16:51:44 edited
Rubkis Cube State War Academy	Posted - 2007.07.19 17:01:00 - [665] snip Posting with an unidentified character and / or characters in NPC corporations in this forum is prohibited. If you wish to participate in the discussions here, be sure to have your corporation and or alliance status ticked in your forum settings. -Elmo Pug ([email protected])
Phelan Driscoll GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.07.19 17:06:00 - [666] Edited by: Phelan Driscoll on 19/07/2007 17:05:46 Originally by: Illiya snip Moderator actions should not be discussed on the forum. If you have any questions or concerns about the forum moderation team, please feel free to email them us. -Elmo Pug ([email protected]) This was a good post >:^( ___________________________ Are GoonSwarm ever going to be allowed to build up in any way in 0.0 space again? No. ELMO PUG IS A FASCIST QUOTE THIS IF YOU'RE DOWN
Illiya Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.07.19 17:08:00 - [667] Originally by: Illiya snip Moderator actions should not be discussed on the forum. If you have any questions or concerns about the forum moderation team, please feel free to email them us. -Elmo Pug ([email protected]) Theres nothing to discuss, the mod in question CLEARLY doesnt understand the thread. To snip his posts in this thread is utterly incomprehensibly stupid. You closed the thread outside CAOD because it belonged in CAOD, then you refuse to allow the guy who stole the items in question to post in what is essentially HIS thread because he's not currently in a player owned corp or alliance? Does anything about that seem, I don't know, ******** to you?
Eldwinn The Tierijev Compact Prime Orbital Systems	Posted - 2007.07.19 17:08:00 - [668] Originally by: Illiya -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Originally by: Flatliner -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- This forum is for players involved in Corporations and Alliances, members of NPC corps may post in the Corporations and Alliances Summit, or in the Crime and Punishment forums. - Huitzilopochtli Tlaloc ([email protected]) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I dont mean to insult a mod, but are you daft? Flatliner, Huitzlerekitrwjha Tialdochch, is the guy who this thread is about. You guys, the moderators, closed the other thread that WASN'T in CAOD and told us to post here. So he's not allowed to post about this anywhere else because it belongs in CAOD but he cant post about it in CAOD because he's not currently in an alliance because he pulled off the biggest theft in MMORPG history? Seriously, you need to read a thread and understand it BEFORE you bring out the moderation. ~ Reposting a valid post.
Illiya Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.07.19 17:10:00 - [669] Originally by: Eldwinn Originally by: Illiya -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Originally by: Flatliner -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- This forum is for players involved in Corporations and Alliances, members of NPC corps may post in the Corporations and Alliances Summit, or in the Crime and Punishment forums. - Huitzilopochtli Tlaloc ([email protected]) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I dont mean to insult a mod, but are you daft? Flatliner, Huitzlerekitrwjha Tialdochch, is the guy who this thread is about. You guys, the moderators, closed the other thread that WASN'T in CAOD and told us to post here. So he's not allowed to post about this anywhere else because it belongs in CAOD but he cant post about it in CAOD because he's not currently in an alliance because he pulled off the biggest theft in MMORPG history? Seriously, you need to read a thread and understand it BEFORE you bring out the moderation. ~ Reposting a valid post. Thanks.
Valois Minmatar GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.07.19 17:11:00 - [670] To be honest, if you were silly enough to appoint someone in a position of power/responsibility and they promptly go and nick all your stuff... Then it's deserved. It's just a shame we won't get such expensive ships on our killmails anymore. :(
ElCholo Minmatar FarCry Inc Curse Alliance	Posted - 2007.07.19 17:13:00 - [671] So is this a record ? Flatliner - grats on the heist .. wanna um .. adopt me ?
Illiya Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.07.19 17:14:00 - [672] The moderators need to agree that Flatliner has an exemption to post in this thread. IT'S HIS THREAD. IT'S HIS THEFT. You can't snip his posts for not being in a corp or alliance when you made us post about this in CAOD. Read-> Comprehend-> Moderate.
Luigi Thirty Caldari 19th Star Logistics	Posted - 2007.07.19 17:15:00 - [673] CAOD mods ---- DOMINIX IS INVINCIBLE:((((
Phelan Driscoll GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.07.19 17:21:00 - [674] Edited by: Phelan Driscoll on 19/07/2007 17:21:43 Originally by: Eldwinn Originally by: Illiya -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Originally by: Flatliner -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- This forum is for players involved in Corporations and Alliances, members of NPC corps may post in the Corporations and Alliances Summit, or in the Crime and Punishment forums. - Huitzilopochtli Tlaloc ([email protected]) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I dont mean to insult a mod, but are you daft? Flatliner, Huitzlerekitrwjha Tialdochch, is the guy who this thread is about. You guys, the moderators, closed the other thread that WASN'T in CAOD and told us to post here. So he's not allowed to post about this anywhere else because it belongs in CAOD but he cant post about it in CAOD because he's not currently in an alliance because he pulled off the biggest theft in MMORPG history? Seriously, you need to read a thread and understand it BEFORE you bring out the moderation. ~ Reposting a valid post. Quoting this because I'm down. hay guys im closin' dis thread because its a caod issue oh wait the guy who started the thread cannot post anymore lol :downs:
Illiya Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.07.19 17:22:00 - [675] Originally by: Luigi Thirty Edited by: Luigi Thirty on 19/07/2007 17:18:42 Originally by: Illiya Originally by: Luigi Thirty CAOD mods I don't understand it? How can you moderate a thread if you obviously don't know who the thread is about or what it references? And then when it's pointed out, the post pointing it out is ALSO snipped because we cant discuss moderation on the forums. It's seriously one of the silliest catch 22's I've ever seen. Jovius Marginis's thread about FIX's Nyx was locked as being started by an NPC corp after he got booted from FIX. Read -> Comprehend -> Moderate.
Luigi Thirty Caldari 19th Star Logistics	Posted - 2007.07.19 17:23:00 - [676] Originally by: Illiya Originally by: Luigi Thirty Edited by: Luigi Thirty on 19/07/2007 17:18:42 Originally by: Illiya Originally by: Luigi Thirty CAOD mods I don't understand it? How can you moderate a thread if you obviously don't know who the thread is about or what it references? And then when it's pointed out, the post pointing it out is ALSO snipped because we cant discuss moderation on the forums. It's seriously one of the silliest catch 22's I've ever seen. Jovius Marginis's thread about FIX's Nyx was locked as being started by an NPC corp after he got booted from FIX. Read -> Comprehend -> Moderate. Moderate -> Orange text ---- DOMINIX IS INVINCIBLE:((((
R3dSh1ft Dark Knights of Deneb Against ALL Authorities	Posted - 2007.07.19 17:23:00 - [677] Originally by: Phelan Driscoll Edited by: Phelan Driscoll on 19/07/2007 17:21:43 Originally by: Eldwinn Originally by: Illiya -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Originally by: Flatliner -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- This forum is for players involved in Corporations and Alliances, members of NPC corps may post in the Corporations and Alliances Summit, or in the Crime and Punishment forums. - Huitzilopochtli Tlaloc ([email protected]) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I dont mean to insult a mod, but are you daft? Flatliner, Huitzlerekitrwjha Tialdochch, is the guy who this thread is about. You guys, the moderators, closed the other thread that WASN'T in CAOD and told us to post here. So he's not allowed to post about this anywhere else because it belongs in CAOD but he cant post about it in CAOD because he's not currently in an alliance because he pulled off the biggest theft in MMORPG history? Seriously, you need to read a thread and understand it BEFORE you bring out the moderation. ~ Reposting a valid post. Quoting this because I'm down. hay guys im closin' dis thread because its a caod issue oh wait the guy who started the thread cannot post anymore lol :downs: lol mods are tards DKOD - an awesome synchronised killing machine
Pax Uranus Sofa.Kingdom	Posted - 2007.07.19 17:26:00 - [678] The people that I have the most sympathy for are the other sleeper agents who now are looking around and saying "Welp. Guess I'll have to wait around for the assets to get reacquired since there's less to steal now." I mean really, that crafty dude who pulled this off just hosed his fellow black bag compatriots. How inconsiderate.
Illiya Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.07.19 17:26:00 - [679] Were I a lead moderator, I would demote Huitzilopochtli Tlaloc immediately for blatantly refusing to read and understand the thread before whipping out the moderation. But that's just me.
Evil Bonzi Fire Mandrill	Posted - 2007.07.19 17:30:00 - [680] Originally by: Plim Originally by: pershphanie Regardless of whether or not they deserved it or not you all applauding and encouraging corp thieves makes you no better and no less deserving than bob to have the same thing happen to you guys. So you might want to cut down on the preaching about karma. While you're at it are all of you anti-bob ppl going to stop acting like you're morally superior now that you've shown you're true colors? We did have a corp thief once. That corp thief (who was atuk/DICE I think) infiltrated Celes temporarily, got away with a small amount of isk and was later in BoB. He was also a complete ass about it on these forums and generally acted like a 4 year old. Why do you think i'm laughing? Only what has happened to BoB is probably like 800000 higher in value. HAR HAR. Do you start rambling about how uncouth it is when BoB start infiltrating people's corps and posting thier internal forums on here? When they started POS bowling? When they infiltrate people's ventrillo and screw with thier fleets? Social engineering eh? When thier useful idiots start spamming the forums with smack on occasion? I'm not encouraging corp thieves. I'm encouraging irony. If the big fat sadistic kid at a school runs up a hill going "LOL I WINNED THE CASTLE AND YOUR POCKET MONEY", then procceeds to fall off and look like a buffoon. I'm not going to have any empathy for the daft kid who comes up and starts saying I shouldn't point and laugh. You can seriously expect me to not take the **** out of BoB when the exact thing happens to them, that they have done to everyone else? When they encourage this kind of gaming? Again, it's hilarious. Poor bob teh kitten Yeah it's kinda easy to forget one of TAOSP's members corp theft of almost the entire Xanadu BPO collection.. Guess who was laughing and crying back then
Virtuality Minmatar GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.07.19 17:33:00 - [681] Mods plz get a clue thanks.

Serathu Forum Moderator Interstellar Services Department	Posted - 2007.07.19 18:06:00 - [682] Thread cleaned. First of all, I would like to remind you that even if you disagree with a moderator's actions, the proper place for your concerns is in an email to [email protected] rather than in a post on the forums. Posting them on the forums is against the forum rules (which can earn you a forum warning or ban), derails the thread, can cause flaming and trolling and will also render your concerns unlikely to receive an answer as we don't read every post on the forums since we are volunteer moderators with limited amounts of time. We do however make an effort to answer every email that we receive with a reply from a senior moderator. I ask that you remain on topic and constructive from this point forward. I would also be grateful if Flatliner could send an email to us at his or her earliest convenience. Thank you! \| Forum Rules \| CAOD Rules \| CRC Website \| [email protected] \|

Onwyn Orbatsuu International Multi-Player Consortium Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2007.07.19 18:10:00 - [683] Is it possible to get an official word from either party involved here? I want to laugh even harder.
Anferney Ethereal Mercenary Services FREGE Alliance	Posted - 2007.07.19 18:12:00 - [684] Originally by: Onwyn Orbatsuu Is it possible to get an official word from either party involved here? I want to laugh even harder. Well, the EVOL response is somewhere around page 5 and it basically says that they have already replaced all of the assets and that it wasn't a big deal. For some reason, I am finding this kinda untruthful. Here it is. Isn't it unique?
Vaarmoth Malinigvious Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.07.19 18:23:00 - [685] Originally by: Jacque Custeau I always think that corp thefts are horrible and cringe whenever I heard about them. However, in this situation I recall the POS bowling, the smack talk and the ninja-titan aggro and I find myself thinking no one else could have deserved this more. Sadly though, I am pretty sure Evolution will bounce back from this. They have many renters lining their pockets. It must suck though that this is happening so close to their annual bbq. Hey Saladin, post with your main please.
Kadoe Amarr Blade Holding Blade.	Posted - 2007.07.19 18:34:00 - [686] Originally by: Anferney Originally by: Onwyn Orbatsuu Is it possible to get an official word from either party involved here? I want to laugh even harder. Well, the EVOL response is somewhere around page 5 and it basically says that they have already replaced all of the assets and that it wasn't a big deal. For some reason, I am finding this kinda untruthful. Sorry, let me just clear something up, you forgot how big EVOL as a corporation is? 100b, is well and truely, no joke, a drop in the bucket, compared to their overall assets, but hey, believe whatever you want to believe snip Please post with respect - Serathu ([email protected])
Rochel Hakiri principle of motion Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2007.07.19 18:40:00 - [687] Originally by: Kadoe Originally by: Anferney Originally by: Onwyn Orbatsuu Is it possible to get an official word from either party involved here? I want to laugh even harder. Well, the EVOL response is somewhere around page 5 and it basically says that they have already replaced all of the assets and that it wasn't a big deal. For some reason, I am finding this kinda untruthful. Sorry, let me just clear something up, you forgot how big EVOL as a corporation is? 100b, is well and truely, no joke, a drop in the bucket, compared to their overall assets, but hey, believe whatever you want to believe snip Please post with respect - Serathu ([email protected]) yeah man , and then imagine that Blade alliance has twice the assests evol (used to) have If that doesnt scare you, then then..i dunno what will
Le Cardinal ECP Rogues The Reckoning.	Posted - 2007.07.19 18:40:00 - [688] Originally by: pershphanie Originally by: Plim Originally by: pershphanie Edited by: pershphanie on 19/07/2007 00:10:05 The only thing more disgusting than flatlinner's actions are all of you who are trying to rationalize this behavior because it happened to someone you dont like. If this happened to someone you liked you would all be talking about how terrible this is. You should all be ashamed of yourselves. Damn that almost made me feel bad for 0.00001 of a second after my last laughing fit. Seriously though, the karma comment pretty much nails it. I hope most people can't have any sympathy for an alliance which is pretty much based on this kind of crap, doesnÆt ask for sympathy anyway and spends much of the time being one giant collective bad mannered ass to the entire community. It's not that long since BoB members were posting stuff from people's internal forums on these boards. However, if you want, you can picture BoB as a little kitten called Robert staring up at you teary eyed because someone has stolen his milk. But that would be somewhat misrepresentive of the situation. Cute image though. Regardless of whether or not they deserved it or not you all applauding and encouraging corp thieves makes you no better and no less deserving than bob to have the same thing happen to you guys. So you might want to cut down on the preaching about karma. While you're at it are all of you anti-bob ppl going to stop acting like you're morally superior now that you've shown you're true colors? Originally by: CYVOK I am sure everyone here is aware of my view of this type of action in any online environment. Unlike those in BoB who have laughed at and congratulated in the past Corp thefts against CLS/ASCN I won't do the same. On this one issue alone I support BoB and sincerely hope they can recover their items or at the very least get some retribution. My advice is to BoB, band together as an Alliance and replace what was lost as a team as quickly as possible. Don't get all paranoid, don't go on a witch hunt. To the thief, congratulations on your heist, your leet, now do the honorable thing and return the items to their rightful owner. No players deserve to have their game ruined by your actions. ààà Or you can transfer all loot me. -CYVOK- Good to see some people still have a little class. You and i have our differences. But i must add something on this thread :P I despise corptheft. My old corp got robbed. Pennies today, but it hurt back then. However. What is the fundamental difference between putting an alt in a corp, befriend them for 6 months, then stabbing them in the back and robbing someone blind? In both ways u connect to ppl, have fun with them, grow bonds etc. And then u stab them in the back. Either by ruining something or robbing. Evol/BoB did that to my corp/D2. Now it happened to Evol. Do i feel pity for them? Not in a million years. What comes around goes around. They managed to ruin a titan with a spy, they lost 2'ish titans (value) in corp theft. If this indeed happened i dont feel pity for them, but i dont condone the act itself.
Anferney Ethereal Mercenary Services FREGE Alliance	Posted - 2007.07.19 18:48:00 - [689] Originally by: Kadoe Originally by: Anferney Originally by: Onwyn Orbatsuu Is it possible to get an official word from either party involved here? I want to laugh even harder. Well, the EVOL response is somewhere around page 5 and it basically says that they have already replaced all of the assets and that it wasn't a big deal. For some reason, I am finding this kinda untruthful. Sorry, let me just clear something up, you forgot how big EVOL as a corporation is? 100b, is well and truely, no joke, a drop in the bucket, compared to their overall assets, but hey, believe whatever you want to believe snip Please post with respect - Serathu ([email protected]) A 300 billion+ theft from a corp of any size is not going to allow everything to be fine after one day. Sure, assets can be replaced, but everything cannot be back to normal in a short period of time. Here it is. Isn't it unique?
Mecinia Lua Galactic Express Frontier Trade League	Posted - 2007.07.19 18:58:00 - [690] snip Given the size of Evolution and the other BoB corps this really was inevitable. Sooner or later someone would have done it. Same goes for any of the big corporations (even the medium size ones.) That's one thing that makes me very sad about EVE. I've been the victim of corp theft myself and its not to fun. Fortunately at the time it occurred last year the thief didn't get much (a few million). Kudos for BoB admitting the theft. Kudos to the GMs handling of the situation. Discussion of moderation removed - Serathu ([email protected]) Thoughts expressed are mine and mine alone. They do not necessarily reflect my alliances thoughts.
Moon Kitten Gallente GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.07.19 19:06:00 - [691] Originally by: Mecinia Lua snip Given the size of Evolution and the other BoB corps this really was inevitable. Sooner or later someone would have done it. Same goes for any of the big corporations (even the medium size ones.) That's one thing that makes me very sad about EVE. I've been the victim of corp theft myself and its not to fun. Fortunately at the time it occurred last year the thief didn't get much (a few million). Kudos for BoB admitting the theft. Kudos to the GMs handling of the situation. What happened to internal security measures? Wasn't that all the rage a couple of years/months ago? I live under a bridge
Grimpak Gallente Trinity Nova KIA Alliance	Posted - 2007.07.19 19:16:00 - [692] Edited by: Grimpak on 19/07/2007 19:16:29 Originally by: Plim Originally by: pershphanie Regardless of whether or not they deserved it or not you all applauding and encouraging corp thieves makes you no better and no less deserving than bob to have the same thing happen to you guys. So you might want to cut down on the preaching about karma. While you're at it are all of you anti-bob ppl going to stop acting like you're morally superior now that you've shown you're true colors? We did have a corp thief once. That corp thief (who was atuk/DICE I think) infiltrated Celes temporarily, got away with a small amount of isk and was later in BoB. He was also a complete ass about it on these forums and generally acted like a 4 year old. Why do you think i'm laughing? Only what has happened to BoB is probably like 800000 higher in value. HAR HAR. Do you start rambling about how uncouth it is when BoB start infiltrating people's corps and posting thier internal forums on here? When they started POS bowling? When they infiltrate people's ventrillo and screw with thier fleets? Social engineering eh? When thier useful idiots start spamming the forums with smack on occasion? I'm not encouraging corp thieves. I'm encouraging irony. If the big fat sadistic kid at a school runs up a hill going "LOL I WINNED THE CASTLE AND YOUR POCKET MONEY", then procceeds to fall off and look like a buffoon. I'm not going to have any empathy for the daft kid who comes up and starts saying I shouldn't point and laugh. You can seriously expect me to not take the ** out of BoB when the exact thing happens to them, that they have done to everyone else? When they encourage this kind of gaming? Again, it's hilarious. Poor bob teh kitten exactly like I, and some other said in this thread. Karma, it's a *, it but you can always count on it to come and either ruin, or kickoff, your party. usually with 10 or even 100 times the fireworks. Sure I don't like corp theft. It's probably the lowest of the lowest allowed game-breaking damage that exists in EVE. BUT this case was special. Not because of the theft itself, but because of the IRONY that brought. --- truth about EVE: Quote: "Guns are fine, boost players" Quote:** "Players are fine, boost guns"
Mitchman Omniscient Order Cruel Intentions	Posted - 2007.07.19 19:26:00 - [693] Flatliner must have stolen much more than 300bn. 300bn is nothing, it's only what they got from the ships they won in the last tournament. 9000bn, the other number I heard, makes more sense. New video: All Aboard The Pain Train
Scatim Helicon GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.07.19 19:31:00 - [694] Originally by: Kozak Originally by: Diehard Si I'm looking forward to the backlash to this. I hope it's as swift and as ruthless as the backlash from Shrike's Titan kill... That was some backlash... they lashed all the way back to Feythabolis.
Machanara Caldari State War Academy	Posted - 2007.07.19 19:32:00 - [695] Originally by: Grimpak Edited by: Grimpak on 19/07/2007 19:16:29 Originally by: Plim Originally by: pershphanie Regardless of whether or not they deserved it or not you all applauding and encouraging corp thieves makes you no better and no less deserving than bob to have the same thing happen to you guys. So you might want to cut down on the preaching about karma. While you're at it are all of you anti-bob ppl going to stop acting like you're morally superior now that you've shown you're true colors? We did have a corp thief once. That corp thief (who was atuk/DICE I think) infiltrated Celes temporarily, got away with a small amount of isk and was later in BoB. He was also a complete ass about it on these forums and generally acted like a 4 year old. Why do you think i'm laughing? Only what has happened to BoB is probably like 800000 higher in value. HAR HAR. Do you start rambling about how uncouth it is when BoB start infiltrating people's corps and posting thier internal forums on here? When they started POS bowling? When they infiltrate people's ventrillo and screw with thier fleets? Social engineering eh? When thier useful idiots start spamming the forums with smack on occasion? I'm not encouraging corp thieves. I'm encouraging irony. If the big fat sadistic kid at a school runs up a hill going "LOL I WINNED THE CASTLE AND YOUR POCKET MONEY", then procceeds to fall off and look like a buffoon. I'm not going to have any empathy for the daft kid who comes up and starts saying I shouldn't point and laugh. You can seriously expect me to not take the ** out of BoB when the exact thing happens to them, that they have done to everyone else? When they encourage this kind of gaming? Again, it's hilarious. Poor bob teh kitten exactly like I, and some other said in this thread. Karma, it's a ***, it but you can always count on it to come and either ruin, or kickoff, your party. usually with 10 or even 100 times the fireworks. Sure I don't like corp theft. It's probably the lowest of the lowest allowed game-breaking damage that exists in EVE. BUT this case was special. Not because of the theft itself, but because of the IRONY that brought. You use Karma as the reason for this and here you are saying how you enjoy is and all. And like what happened. Karma doesn't discriminate. You're time will come as well.
Scagga Laebetrovo Delictum 23216	Posted - 2007.07.19 19:34:00 - [696] I wonder how much it would all refine to. Delictum 23216 Official forums
John McCloud The Blackwater Brigade	Posted - 2007.07.19 19:35:00 - [697] Thing is. I'm not so sure it was somthing planned. You talk about friendships? Sure, you hang out with ure buddies ingame, you chat and have fun, maybe u even share msn with ure corpmates while ure an active member of their corp. Then, unforseen things happen in RL and u go inactive. What happens? A couple of weeks go by and suddenly u dont here anything from ure so called friends whom u made ingame. They dont call u, they dont pm u on msn, u dont hear anything at all frm them. Its as if they all just died, or they totally forgot about their "bestbuddy". Now, are these ppl really ure friends, u ask ureself? Somewhere down the road, things start working out in RL and u return to play eve. All of a sudden, ure ingame friends are all "hey old buddy, lets go out and shoot someone in the face!" By now u will think of them all as hypocrites and u just clear their freakin hangars. Afterall, their only ure friends as long as ure an active member of their corp. I'd think thats pretty much the thinking behind many opportunistic corp thefts in Eve. Bottom line? Before Flatliner became inactive, he prolly didnt even consider stealing anything at all from his corp.
SaKoil GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.07.19 19:40:00 - [698] Quote: Posting with an unidentified character and / or characters in NPC corporations in this forum is prohibited. If you wish to participate in the discussions here, be sure to have your corporation and or alliance status ticked in your forum settings. How about letting Flatliner speak for himself? It is not like his character is unidentified or there are any confusion about his corporation and/or alliance affiliation in this 25 page thread about him?
Flow Befort GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.07.19 19:48:00 - [699] Where did they go wrong? As a purely personal feeling I think its because they don't have any real IC ideology to speak of and are playing the game just like a standard shoot-em-up without any particular relevence to the Eve universe and background. Of course I can't entirely blame them since the last few major patches and content releases have been about turning Eve into a battlegrounds style capture the flag game, but really this is still a very rich and evocative setting when you take the time to read up on the background and chronicles and roleplay concepts, so its obviously the case that coming in and behaving like a bunch of kids who sneaked into an 18-rated movie to throw peanuts at the projectionist is going to put people's backs up.
Tetsujin GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.07.19 19:54:00 - [700] Guys I have a bit of a problem you see my kid hasn't eaten anything in two days and my wife left me a month ago and my dad's dying but my corporation is trying to siege a constellation and they're really depending on me to help what should I do???
Eta Orionis Amarr Firebirds	Posted - 2007.07.19 20:18:00 - [701] I don't see anything clever here, you had access to a bunch of hangers and you looted them. Sure you gained trust to get to the level where you could loot them never being a member i have no idea how hard that is but in most coporations it comes down to your skill base and your ability to be seen as a nice guy (Personality). It certainly does not compare to the "Great Heist" where CEO was taken down, and corp robbed of all it owned planed and executed from the day of joining the corp and then all implemented in one swift move. I suspect your intentions changed whilst you were in corp, you may have found you were getting access and at some point made the decision you did. Thier is not a single corp in EVE whom is not open to this kind of abuse at some point you have to trust some people if your corp is as big as EVOL and you have a member whom has been with you over a year+. My corp as small as it is would no doubt suffer in the same way..
cHeRrY MuFfInMan mUfFiN fAcToRy	Posted - 2007.07.19 20:26:00 - [702] Originally by: sliver 0xD Originally by: Arcane Mystery After reading most of this thread and the original thread about the theft I've got a few things on my mind about this. First off, I think CCP did the right thing by temporary disabling the account of the thief to check that it was not hacked or something like that. Any theft of this scale should be investigated quick before assets are transfered around to a horde of alts just in case it's a hacked in other ways wrongfully accessed account. Second, any theft from people who trust you and who you've been friends with is a dispicable act. There's no glory or respect to be earned from what Flatliner did. In my opinion this is about as low as it gets. Third, even though I not friends with BoB I do wish Evolution best of luck in recovering from the losses. still i think that it was wrong by ccp to make a difrence betwean 300bil and 3bil. what is the difrence betwean 300bil and 3bil? if a report comes in that a count might be hacked. then it should not mather about the assets and how much it is. should a small corp lose its assets becosue its not large enough? as ccp says if u try to abuse it u get banned. so if a report comes in ccp should take it as serious as any other. no mather of how much isk is involved. what are we talking about here ? ingame crap or out game acounts ? seriously prioritys... second off all the dude that stole is wrong. yep its a low. tho i dont care much. for one its your own damn fault for trusting someone else(like ccp likes to explain to u in softer words). i think bob didnt deserve loseing all there stuff. but its a nice move by the thief one of the bigest and riches corperations in eve :P grats with the new stuff :) enjoy :P like he just stole fort knox clean :P hilarious because some of the Dev's are in Bob! ofcorse their going to take this one seriously! and all those other little corps get the SHAFT! becuase this thread is so damn big, CCP will be forced to most likely ban that account (eventhough I think it was not hacked, and that thief just got fed up with bob).. or reimburse BOB. When what should happen is let the thief go free, because in this game its all about FINDERS KEEPERS!! http://dl.eve-files.com/media/0609/CHerry_SIG_jaypeg.jpg Signature filesize exceeds max limit of 24000 bytes. Mail us if you have questions -Eldo Davip
SaKoil GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.07.19 20:46:00 - [703] Originally by: SaKoil Please don't discuss moderation on the forums. If you have questions or want to voice your concerns, emails us at [email protected]. -Wachtmeister ([email protected]) furthermore,
Raven DeBlade Caldari Bladerunners Mordus Angels	Posted - 2007.07.19 20:54:00 - [704] Evol soo deserve it... for once im HAPPY corp theft is possible in the game, what goes around comes around. Thats for all the "out of game tricks" you have pulled through the years... harr harr harr.. "To hunt pirates you need time and patience, because even monkeys fall from the trees"
PhoenixDawn Gallente Forge Regional Security	Posted - 2007.07.19 20:58:00 - [705] Can we get an actual tally of what was stolen and it's estimated value on the player market (not NPC market)? And get that tally moved to the front of the thread so we can actually find it? Flatliner did all of Eve a fine service, though we all know it will hardly cripple Evolution, much less BoBos. It's a real smack to their pride, and loosing those state issue Ravens is a coup finer than anything GH-SC ever managed, but it won't shut them down... unfortunately.
Raem Civrie Sons of Enelaise Enelaise	Posted - 2007.07.19 21:10:00 - [706] Originally by: Mitchman Flatliner must have stolen much more than 300bn. 300bn is nothing, it's only what they got from the ships they won in the last tournament. 9000bn, the other number I heard, makes more sense. I somewhat doubt the tourney ships were in corp hangars. But if they were... oh man... ---- All you do is bark, you never meow
Fornacis Gallente hirr Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2007.07.19 21:19:00 - [707] Originally by: Raem Civrie Originally by: Mitchman Flatliner must have stolen much more than 300bn. 300bn is nothing, it's only what they got from the ships they won in the last tournament. 9000bn, the other number I heard, makes more sense. I somewhat doubt the tourney ships were in corp hangars. But if they were... oh man... So...9000 Billion = 9 Quadrillion..... By the beard of Zeus...
Gariuys Evil Strangers Inc.	Posted - 2007.07.19 21:21:00 - [708] Man... big one... and it's all in thge game... but ****, I hope they bounce back well, cause I really can't stand the idea of the ragoon... well just bounce back guys.
Aerick Dawn Gallente The Arrow Project Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2007.07.19 21:46:00 - [709] So....... Who wants to hand Evol their darwin award? Irony.....ftw __________________ If I'm in a fair fight, i've done something terribly wrong.
Orree Gallente Shiva Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2007.07.19 22:01:00 - [710] Originally by: Icomeinpeace It's amazing how bitter some people are, and it shows in this thread who you are. Let's bring this back down from the hype a bit, after all it is just a game right? <snip> I'm just saying it would be nice if we could trash talk on the forums, and pew pew in game, in a more respectable manner. Then there are the RL bitter people who just won't let it go, and come up with any childish insults. Of course I do realise some people here are still waiting to ge into the bars Nice post, man. Reads much better than PG's, to be sure. I said earlier in this thread and I'll say again...I'm certain you guys will recover. Large hit, but you'll be fine if you choose to be and I expect you will. Corp thievery sucks... "How much easier it is to be critical than to be correct." ---Benjamin Disraeli
Mitchman Omniscient Order Cruel Intentions	Posted - 2007.07.19 22:16:00 - [711] Originally by: Raem Civrie Originally by: Mitchman Flatliner must have stolen much more than 300bn. 300bn is nothing, it's only what they got from the ships they won in the last tournament. 9000bn, the other number I heard, makes more sense. I somewhat doubt the tourney ships were in corp hangars. But if they were... oh man... The corp wallet was not robbed? New video: All Aboard The Pain Train
Angelonico Battlestars GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.07.19 22:18:00 - [712] Originally by: FourthStorm 1) Corp thieving is a dispicable act. 2) Goons enjoying the corp theft, just because its done to their enemy shows what moral character Goons are made of. snip - keep it civil. -Ivan K 1. Yes. 2. It just happened to us - and we didn't get our pets to cry like little *****es about it. 3. You're a joke. Your corp is a joke. 4. Stop posting.
Vyktor Abyss The Abyss Corporation	Posted - 2007.07.19 22:34:00 - [713] Sorry for your loss BoB. Corp thieves are the lowest of the low in this game IMHO - complete lack of respect for time spent by the people accumulating that wealth. Ruining the game for so many becuase of their own selfish greed. Karma will surely redress the balance finding that person and giving them haemoroids and acne when they least want it. - Ideas are my business...maybe thats why I'm always skint! Please read my ideas
Angelonico Battlestars GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.07.19 22:51:00 - [714] Originally by: Vyktor Abyss Sorry for your loss BoB. Corp thieves are the lowest of the low in this game IMHO - complete lack of respect for time spent by the people accumulating that wealth. Ruining the game for so many becuase of their own selfish greed. Karma will surely redress the balance finding that person and giving them haemoroids and acne when they least want it. Are you serious? Bob is RIDDLED with corp thieves and they've been doing this same thing (on a smaller scale) to corps and alliances since their inception. Jesus christ get off their **** and wake up you friggin idiots. BOB ARE NOT THE GOOD GUYS HERE. Turnabout is fair play.
Manic Mole VENOM72 Sylph Alliance	Posted - 2007.07.19 22:52:00 - [715] Edited by: Manic Mole on 19/07/2007 22:54:29 wow! that guy is my hero. for doing that to bob... i don't endorce theft at all. honest. ---[sig starts here]--- a proud member of Venom72 & Sylph. eveything i say is my personal feeling etc, etc, etc...
Zenst Gallente Reikoku Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.07.19 23:06:00 - [716] Originally by: Popperr Originally by: Zeveron Evol and BoB took a hit, big or small, time will tell. If you guys think that Evol and BoB are that weak atm: JUST BRING IT Bring what? Stront? Dreads? Command ships? Can you give me a list? LOL, just bring plenty more of that humour
Vyktor Abyss The Abyss Corporation	Posted - 2007.07.19 23:07:00 - [717] Originally by: Angelonico Originally by: Vyktor Abyss Sorry for your loss BoB. Corp thieves are the lowest of the low in this game IMHO - complete lack of respect for time spent by the people accumulating that wealth. Ruining the game for so many becuase of their own selfish greed. Karma will surely redress the balance finding that person and giving them haemoroids and acne when they least want it. Are you serious? Bob is RIDDLED with corp thieves and they've been doing this same thing (on a smaller scale) to corps and alliances since their inception. Jesus christ get off their **** and wake up you friggin idiots. BOB ARE NOT THE GOOD GUYS HERE. Turnabout is fair play. Yes I'm serious. My statement is valid and true - I am sorry for their loss, as I am about any corp (even my worst enemies) who lose assetts this way. It is the act of cowards and the selfish - If BoB characters have done this in the past then it applies to them people too, though I doubt all these lost assetts come from their thefts as you foolishly imply. Real people will have saved and slaved THE HARD WAY to make/earn those assetts and it is them players and their lost time I feel sorry for... You're myopic view tinted by your blood spattered spectacles is obviously hiding the fact I'm attacking the people behind the characters who do corp theft irrelevant of alliance, and comiserating with those genuine good folk who have suffered a loss. Leave your accusations, propaganda and spin comments elsewhere and not when quoting anything I type thankyouverymuch. - Ideas are my business...maybe thats why I'm always skint! Please read my ideas
Flinx Evenstar Minmatar Spartan Industries Cruel Intentions	Posted - 2007.07.19 23:53:00 - [718] Edited by: Flinx Evenstar on 19/07/2007 23:54:24 This thread has run its course in many areas...they ONLY thing left to discuss is Flatliners reasons and motives for such a crime. Oh and possibly a list of loot ...but Can Flatliner even post in this thread without being snipped. I refer the Mods to this thread for some consistency Snip both, or let both post. Don't contradict yourself all the time I am fairly sure "Brutor Tribe" is an npc corp, but the MOD's in that thread were smart enough to realise that he had "changed corp" during the thread. I, erm, like kill things and stuff
Zimi Vlasic F.R.E.E. Explorer EVE Animal Control	Posted - 2007.07.20 00:04:00 - [719] I can't really help but laugh as I see some of the exact same bob pets that once cheered on Burn Eden's ultimately fake theft of goons now cry foul. Do some of you have no shame at all? Find Roid, Examine, and Excavate Explorer Proud member of the Customer Service Coalition.
Strategos Banned Society	Posted - 2007.07.20 00:23:00 - [720] Corp Theft sucks, but to be honest, it couldn't have happen to a more deserving corp/alliance then EVOL/BoB. This will probably be the only time I ever say this but; Good Job on this Theft! ---Sig--- I am an arms dealer Fitting you with weapons in the form of words -F.O.B.
Iroku Mata	Posted - 2007.07.20 00:48:00 - [721] Corp-thiefs are scum, very simple. It doesnt matter if in a friendly or enemy corp. I personly think a few nice guys should wait for him in RL at the next corner!
Selk Cantor Minmatar Shadows of the Dead Aftermath Alliance	Posted - 2007.07.20 00:49:00 - [722] There really needs to be some limiting function on withdrawals like an atm machine. There's never a legit reason for someone removing so much stuff.
Devian 666 Axe Gang	Posted - 2007.07.20 00:53:00 - [723] It's not the first time an ex-evolution member has committed a corp theft. We had one steal 6m in ammo. For such an uber corp theft I'm surprised he didn't start a CAOD thread. I agree I don't have the features to be a holoreel star. Most people have missed the point that this is Mobsters Online and that carebears are at the bottom of the foodchain.
Shamis Orzoz Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2007.07.20 00:58:00 - [724] My thoughts on this
StephanieLazyTown	Posted - 2007.07.20 01:11:00 - [725] Originally by: Shamis Orzoz My thoughts on this i loled
Illiya Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.07.20 01:17:00 - [726] Originally by: Iroku Mata Corp-thiefs are scum, very simple. It doesnt matter if in a friendly or enemy corp. I personly think a few nice guys should wait for him in RL at the next corner! yeah he should really be beat up in real life for stealing internet spaceships from an online guild who encourages the theft of other peoples' internet spaceships. good call alt.
Jonny 101 Art of War Cult of War	Posted - 2007.07.20 01:18:00 - [727] Originally by: Iroku Mata Corp-thiefs are scum, very simple. It doesnt matter if in a friendly or enemy corp. I personly think a few nice guys should wait for him in RL at the next corner! I sure do hate those people who are mean in fantasy worlds! LET'S BE EVEN MEANER TO THEM IN THE REAL WORLDS!!11111 People like YOU are the scum of the earth and sicken me.
Superbus Maximus Gallente Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2007.07.20 01:26:00 - [728] Originally by: Shamis Orzoz My thoughts on this Nelson never gets old.
Flinx Evenstar Minmatar Spartan Industries Cruel Intentions	Posted - 2007.07.20 01:27:00 - [729] Originally by: Iroku Mata Corp-thiefs are scum, very simple. It doesnt matter if in a friendly or enemy corp. I personly think a few nice guys should wait for him in RL at the next corner! The difference between reality and fantasy obviously confuses you...seek help please. You will be snipped, and so will my reply, but seriously, make an appointment with your doctor I, erm, like kill things and stuff
Danton Marcellus Nebula Rasa Holdings	Posted - 2007.07.20 01:39:00 - [730] Can someone help Flatliner out, he seems to have run out of fingers and he still got some hangars to left to sum up. What is the actual estimated value of goods misappropriated? 300B sure but where does the astronomical figure 9000B come from? Also Known As
Princess Jodi Vendetta Underground Rule of Three	Posted - 2007.07.20 02:19:00 - [731] First of all, HAHA! Second, Bob's 'Holier Than Thou' attitude has gotten all dirty. This kind of activity will continue to erode that feeling of invincibility they portray. That sound you hear is another nail in thier coffin. Third, the discussion of 'deserving' the theft is intresting, and the 'Karma is <your mamma>' remarks are right on the mark. Fourth - and the only new comment I can add to this thread - People seem rather united that Corp Theft should not be a part of this game. Yet CCP considers it totally valid. I've heard many cries of 'nerf this' and 'prohibit that' during my time in Eve. Some I agree with and some I don't. As a person who likes the Empire Building aspect of Eve more than PVP (read CareBear if you must), the thought that someone can wipe out years of work by a multitude of people is distasteful. I ask CCP to find a way to protect the investments of Corporations. Fifth - HAHAHAHAHA!
Bacci Galu Confederation of Red Moon Red Moon Federation	Posted - 2007.07.20 02:28:00 - [732] Edited by: Bacci Galu on 20/07/2007 02:29:06 Edited by: Bacci Galu on 20/07/2007 02:28:26 lol only goons would find this sort of Nefarious" conduct funny. Sure both sides have "allegedly" tried there hand at said conduct, but when you grow up kids u will learn that justifying one wrong deed with another == immature / lame. For the record, sorry about ya lossÆs guys in evol, but really, if I where in your boots, I would not even go to the effort of explaining to the 95% margin of people on this board who have the intelligence quota of a toilet door. As per previous mention; .: Theft is wrong period signed .: Corps/people are not defined by what they do and do not have in there hanger signed Maker of thy sigs: [email protected]
Stahlregen GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.07.20 02:31:00 - [733] Originally by: Princess Jodi First of all, HAHA! Second, Bob's 'Holier Than Thou' attitude has gotten all dirty. This kind of activity will continue to erode that feeling of invincibility they portray. That sound you hear is another nail in thier coffin. Third, the discussion of 'deserving' the theft is intresting, and the 'Karma is <your mamma>' remarks are right on the mark. Fourth - and the only new comment I can add to this thread - People seem rather united that Corp Theft should not be a part of this game. Yet CCP considers it totally valid. I've heard many cries of 'nerf this' and 'prohibit that' during my time in Eve. Some I agree with and some I don't. As a person who likes the Empire Building aspect of Eve more than PVP (read CareBear if you must), the thought that someone can wipe out years of work by a multitude of people is distasteful. I ask CCP to find a way to protect the investments of Corporations. Fifth - HAHAHAHAHA! If you can't secure corporate assets from your own members you don't deserve the assets in the first place. If you can't recover from a particularly nasty theft you also don't deserve to be leading your corporation in the first place. Corporate thefts are equally the fault of those who commit the act and the directors who were in charge of ensuring that this doesn't happen. It's just another aspect of the game you need to plan around, Like being randomly decced by MC or have a NAP with your neighbours implode in drama. It's stupid to call corporate thefts dishonorable or pathetic, It's part of the game and you're just annoyed that you don't have the conscience, patience, skill or trust to pull one off yourself. How is destroying an alliance through sabotage and theft any difference than griefing them into submission with relentless pos warfare, super capitals and ganking their ratters with force recon gangs.
Jonny 101 Art of War Cult of War	Posted - 2007.07.20 02:33:00 - [734] So far this is the most boring theft ever tbh, it better become more entertaining very soon.
Empyre Domestic Reform	Posted - 2007.07.20 03:04:00 - [735] Originally by: Stahlregen If you can't secure corporate assets from your own members you don't deserve the assets in the first place. If you can't recover from a particularly nasty theft you also don't deserve to be leading your corporation in the first place. Corporate thefts are equally the fault of those who commit the act and the directors who were in charge of ensuring that this doesn't happen. It's just another aspect of the game you need to plan around, Like being randomly decced by MC or have a NAP with your neighbours implode in drama. It's stupid to call corporate thefts dishonorable or pathetic, It's part of the game and you're just annoyed that you don't have the conscience, patience, skill or trust to pull one off yourself. How is destroying an alliance through sabotage and theft any difference than griefing them into submission with relentless pos warfare, super capitals and ganking their ratters with force recon gangs. not entirely true. you are very limited in this game as to how much you can do to get to know a person in order to trust them. sure, if you have the RL time and funds you can fly to meetups and meet people. but even then it would take years to get to know a person well enough to determine if they are for real or just a really good deception artist. most people are limited to in game chat, IM clients and VoIP clients. that is hardly enough to determine a persons' actual ability to be trusted. tie that in with how quickly you need to move sometimes to build up a population of people and the number of people you need to entrust in order to get a major operation running well as well as the fact most people can't play 24/7 (meaning you have to usually entrust multiple people for the same tasks) and you've got a system of trust that is like a coin toss with the ever so slight ability to bias the weight of the coin in one direction or another. its' still always a risk. you better hope for your sake and the sake of your chest-beating alliance that you have the abilities you are preaching as necessary, lest you fall victim to the same but worse. (although losing a handful of t1 frigates and fittings wouldn't be an incredible loss) Please stop messing with my signature!!!
Aaron Static Igneus Auctorita GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.07.20 03:33:00 - [736] Edited by: Aaron Static on 20/07/2007 03:33:21 Posting in a BoB thread with my new signature ----------
Indomitus Rex Amarr H.Y.D.R.A. GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.07.20 03:43:00 - [737] Originally by: Bacci Galu Edited by: Bacci Galu on 20/07/2007 02:29:06 Edited by: Bacci Galu on 20/07/2007 02:28:26 lol only goons would find this sort of Nefarious" conduct funny. Sure both sides have "allegedly" tried there hand at said conduct, but when you grow up kids u will learn that justifying one wrong deed with another == immature / lame. For the record, sorry about ya lossÆs guys in evol, but really, if I where in your boots, I would not even go to the effort of explaining to the 95% margin of people on this board who have the intelligence quota of a toilet door. As per previous mention; .: Theft is wrong period signed .: Corps/people are not defined by what they do and do not have in there hanger signed So, wait. . .corp theft is despicable and dirty and terrible, and you care a GREAT deal about stopping it. Just you don't care enough to come out from behind the skirts of the people in this game that promote that kind of gameplay the most. . .BOB. Interesting. Again, does BOB's ego and idiocy rub off on you pets too? Calling people stupid and saying they're ignorant and "won't understand" is just plain asinine. The same people that were applauding GHSC are now upset because it happened to them and their buddies. This is the game we play. It's made by griefers, for griefers. What is there for Evol to explain? They acted like they were above everyone else and that the things they did to others wouldn't happen to them. Consequently, they paid the price and look foolish. I agree, corp theft is lame basically because there isn't a whole lot of skill to most of it that goes on. You just one day decide, hey, I'll swipe everything because I feel like it. Nothing terribly skillful in that. However, it DEFINITELY should be a part of the game and CCP shouldn't do a damn thing to change it. The most hilarious part about this whole fiasco for Evol is that their entire corp make-up is based on communism and the "share and share alike" motto. That and them being part of an alliance that has one of the most unoriginal names ever, Band of Brothers. Irony overload. Most of their losses could have been avoided if not for the hubris of having everything together in the same hangars where everyone has access. If you fly your own ships and keep your own gear the most he gets away with is maybe some POS, fuel, and random junk mods. By the way, is St0be still invited to the BBQ? Sig removed. If you would like further details please mail [email protected] with a link to your signature. - Elmo Pug
5H4F7 Minmatar Dead Parrot Society	Posted - 2007.07.20 03:49:00 - [738] Originally by: Bacci Galu 95% margin of people on this board who have the intelligence quota of a toilet door. What's an intelligence quota?
AlphaMeridian Ars ex Discordia GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.07.20 03:51:00 - [739] Quote: By the way, is St0be still invited to the BBQ? If he goes, I demand video. -Alpha
Derious Eldrid Wolfsguard Corp	Posted - 2007.07.20 04:25:00 - [740] Lock this already. It's nothing but a giant cess pool filled with maggots and worms with all the other vile crap you'd find in a cess pool.
Angelonico Battlestars GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.07.20 04:32:00 - [741] Originally by: Vyktor Abyss I have my head so far up molle's ass I know what she ate for breakfast. Can't argue with you there bud.
Bein Glorious GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.07.20 04:32:00 - [742] Originally by: Derious Lock this already. It's nothing but a giant cess pool filled with maggots and worms with all the other vile crap you'd find in a cess pool. that sounds a bit like your posting OH MY GOD BOOYA
Stahlregen GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.07.20 04:36:00 - [743] Originally by: Derious Lock this already. It's nothing but a giant cess pool filled with maggots and worms with all the other vile crap you'd find in a cess pool. Oooooh wzatch out guys or he might unleash the awesome power of "Eldrid Wolfsguard Corp!" upon us, The largest 0.0 alliance in Eve won't know true fear until they face two-bit pubbie corp #9886. Get out of here dude.
Swinton Wolsoncroft Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.07.20 04:41:00 - [744] Originally by: Derious Lock this already. It's nothing but a giant cess pool filled with maggots and worms with all the other vile crap you'd find in a cess pool. im the maggot in da post Do not trolls in your sig. -Kaemonn
Illiya Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.07.20 05:36:00 - [745] btw a "hanger" is something you hang your clothes on. a hangar is something you store large items like airplanes or space ships in. so when you guys refer to "hangars" please make sure you're not saying "hanger" because it makes you look sort of ignorant. remember: hanger:shirts::hangar:airplanes
Liu Kaskakka PAK	Posted - 2007.07.20 06:02:00 - [746] Originally by: Illiya btw a "hanger" is something you hang your clothes on. a hangar is something you store large items like airplanes or space ships in. so when you guys refer to "hangars" please make sure you're not saying "hanger" because it makes you look sort of ignorant. remember: hanger:shirts::hangar:airplanes z0mg what a bUrn! They'll slit their wrists, I'm sure. King Liu is RIGHT!!
Stahlregen GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.07.20 06:13:00 - [747] Originally by: Empyre Originally by: Stahlregen If you can't secure corporate assets from your own members you don't deserve the assets in the first place. If you can't recover from a particularly nasty theft you also don't deserve to be leading your corporation in the first place. Corporate thefts are equally the fault of those who commit the act and the directors who were in charge of ensuring that this doesn't happen. It's just another aspect of the game you need to plan around, Like being randomly decced by MC or have a NAP with your neighbours implode in drama. It's stupid to call corporate thefts dishonorable or pathetic, It's part of the game and you're just annoyed that you don't have the conscience, patience, skill or trust to pull one off yourself. How is destroying an alliance through sabotage and theft any difference than griefing them into submission with relentless pos warfare, super capitals and ganking their ratters with force recon gangs. not entirely true. you are very limited in this game as to how much you can do to get to know a person in order to trust them. sure, if you have the RL time and funds you can fly to meetups and meet people. but even then it would take years to get to know a person well enough to determine if they are for real or just a really good deception artist. most people are limited to in game chat, IM clients and VoIP clients. that is hardly enough to determine a persons' actual ability to be trusted. tie that in with how quickly you need to move sometimes to build up a population of people and the number of people you need to entrust in order to get a major operation running well as well as the fact most people can't play 24/7 (meaning you have to usually entrust multiple people for the same tasks) and you've got a system of trust that is like a coin toss with the ever so slight ability to bias the weight of the coin in one direction or another. its' still always a risk. you better hope for your sake and the sake of your chest-beating alliance that you have the abilities you are preaching as necessary, lest you fall victim to the same but worse. (although losing a handful of t1 frigates and fittings wouldn't be an incredible loss) Hey dumbass, Our ***** CEO stole our titan. I think i know what i'm talking about here, seeing as your a member for some ***** pubbie corp. The only thing limiting you in getting to know a person in this game are your own social shortcomings and inability to conceive failsafes. So now why is it that the only big thefts you hear about in large alliances are from trusted members who hold positions of power rather than the average member? Two recent examples being this and Remedial. OH DAMN! It couldn't possibly be because these large alliances already have mechanisms in place to prevent corp thefts from happening. Meaning that the only people who have the ability to take anything were the ones who invented these mechanisms in the first place and thus in total control of them. So in sum, Large heists are rare and always pulled off by people who have responsibility and power in the alliance, power they need in order to run the alliance. These sort of thefts are completely unavoidable as there are always going to be directors in alliances with access to vast stores of assets. Whereas all other heists are the fault of the victims. If this was not true then how come in goonswarm, for instance, an alliance made up primarily of immature, selfish and cruel people who delight in screwing each other over more than they do their enemies still standing? Why hasn't a hundred different goons already stolen all our dreads and poses and all that crap already? Welp, Looks like my point still stands. Maybe if you actually attempted to form an argument next time... However, a better starting point would probably to get a clue first before you post next.
Stoffer Ninjapirate Amarr GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.07.20 06:30:00 - [748] Calm down.
Kiko Goatbiter Gallente GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.07.20 06:40:00 - [749] Originally by: Derious Lock this already. It's nothing but a giant cess pool filled with maggots and worms with all the other vile crap you'd find in a cess pool. You might even say Vile Rat's /drumroll
anister Black Omega Security Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2007.07.20 06:41:00 - [750] A character in BoB that steals from corp and friends? wow, not heard that one before.... you deserved it. ___
Stahlregen GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.07.20 06:44:00 - [751] Originally by: Obron Mettlo Originally by: Stahlregen Hey dumbass, Our ***** CEO stole our titan. I think i know what i'm talking about here, seeing as your a member for some ***** pubbie corp. The only thing limiting you in getting to know a person in this game are your own social shortcomings and inability to conceive failsafes. So now why is it that the only big thefts you hear about in large alliances are from trusted members who hold positions of power rather than the average member? Two recent examples being this and Remedial. OH DAMN! It couldn't possibly be because these large alliances already have mechanisms in place to prevent corp thefts from happening. Meaning that the only people who have the ability to take anything were the ones who invented these mechanisms in the first place and thus in total control of them. So in sum, Large heists are rare and always pulled off by people who have responsibility and power in the alliance, power they need in order to run the alliance. These sort of thefts are completely unavoidable as there are always going to be directors in alliances with access to vast stores of assets. Whereas all other heists are the fault of the victims. If this was not true then how come in goonswarm, for instance, an alliance made up primarily of immature, selfish and cruel people who delight in screwing each other over more than they do their enemies still standing? Why hasn't a hundred different goons already stolen all our dreads and poses and all that crap already? Welp, Looks like my point still stands. Maybe if you actually attempted to form an argument next time... However, a better starting point would probably to get a clue first before you post next. Make movies for the last six months instead of making angry posts thanks. Why don't you go jump ship, fairweather friend :)
band0fdevs Gallente Band of Dev's	Posted - 2007.07.20 07:30:00 - [752] Blob have been quite for a while whats happening have they put a COAD forum shutup order on their members again
Twoside Gallente Seven.	Posted - 2007.07.20 08:00:00 - [753] /emote is somehow still expecting an announcement where all the goodies were returned and a big ha-ha back
Tetsujin GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.07.20 08:38:00 - [754] hey can someone close this thread i've already closed and gold-mined our version of it on goonfleet.com
Aaron Mirrorsaver The Coalition Of Buccaneers	Posted - 2007.07.20 08:43:00 - [755] they are in shock. and sir molle is trying to find out who to hang for this disgrace. for such a conniving character being in bob. -- greater love hath no man than this; that a man lay down is life for his friends. Molle- The Battle
Zzleeper Amarr levisomnus spectatrix	Posted - 2007.07.20 09:09:00 - [756] HAHA way to go :) I am hoping to do this one day with my alt in another BOB corp Originally Posted by CCP Arkannon There are specific rules in place forbidding players from bragging about GM or developer connections.. Did T20 miss the CCP induction course?
Kiko Goatbiter Gallente GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.07.20 09:13:00 - [757] Originally by: Tetsujin hey can someone close this thread i've already closed and gold-mined our version of it on goonfleet.com I'd say you were the worst mod going around eve forums but then again Hippoking
Rex Mundus League of Gentlemen	Posted - 2007.07.20 09:27:00 - [758] 27 pages and still no actual idea what was actually stolen Grats to CCP for a quick and clean investigation, obviously something of this nature would need to be investigated even if it does mean suspending someones account for the duration. Guess the brotherhood is no different to any other alliance, if things aren't going so well people start putting their own interests ahead of those of their alliance. As a result I suppose the real damage isn't what was taken but the realisation that the beliefs Band of Brothers is built upon aren't anchored to the rock foundation that people thought they were. Rex
Starfury Shang Pod Industries New Eden Entertainment	Posted - 2007.07.20 09:33:00 - [759] I think this thread is going for "the most amount of replies and views in the least amount of time" award.
Auroris Vodalion LifeLine Solutions	Posted - 2007.07.20 09:49:00 - [760] Originally by: Starfury Shang I think this thread is going for "the most amount of replies and views in the least amount of time" award. According to what I remember, those with "misconduct" and "allegation" in the title grow bigger and faster than this one.
Jared Byar Minmatar Mortal Kombat Industries	Posted - 2007.07.20 09:50:00 - [761] Am I the only one who thinks EVE forums would be "better" without BoB -and- Goons ?
ikoban Amarr Scarlet Scourge Society	Posted - 2007.07.20 10:15:00 - [762] Edited by: ikoban on 20/07/2007 10:18:43 snip Posting with an unidentified character and characters in NPC corporations in this forum is prohibited. If you wish to participate in the discussions here, be sure to have your corporation and or alliance status ticked in your forum settings. -Scyd ([email protected]) I am in a corp DUH! pput my post back mr mean moderator!
Hatuk The Collective Against ALL Authorities	Posted - 2007.07.20 10:25:00 - [763] Originally by: Zeveron Evol and BoB took a hit, big or small, time will tell. If you guys think that Evol and BoB are that weak atm: JUST BRING IT you 20 days in bob and talk about "bring it" those new (post war) bobitses are just so cute...
ikoban Amarr Scarlet Scourge Society	Posted - 2007.07.20 10:28:00 - [764] Originally by: ikoban Edited by: ikoban on 20/07/2007 10:18:43 snip Posting with an unidentified character and characters in NPC corporations in this forum is prohibited. If you wish to participate in the discussions here, be sure to have your corporation and or alliance status ticked in your forum settings. -Scyd ([email protected]) I am in a corp DUH! pput my post back mr mean moderator! ONE . Dont be so gawd damn quick to edits posts you nub! TWO. I am redoing my post so neneer neneer! All you smacktards think its a ******* great laugh about bobs loss. as one person said . your all jealous because they are good at what they do. So what if this idiot stole x amount of billions worth of ships & mods etc. I bet its mostly at the outposts he stole them from and in such cant be got at. All i hear from my old corpies that are in a GS corp is how they stomp over BOB. strange that they can do it when they out number the American Bob Members, and as such BOB stomp over them the rest of the time. BoB = Sucess GS = Wanna be PVPers who do thing but Scam like the Smacktards they are. Note. never liked GS/GF one bit. not even when they rented space from Black Omega Secruity in JQV. they sucked then and now they suck so hard you wont see any chrome on their exhaust pipes.
Alan Bell Gallente Shiva Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2007.07.20 10:31:00 - [765] Originally by: ikoban Originally by: ikoban Edited by: ikoban on 20/07/2007 10:18:43 snip Posting with an unidentified character and characters in NPC corporations in this forum is prohibited. If you wish to participate in the discussions here, be sure to have your corporation and or alliance status ticked in your forum settings. -Scyd ([email protected]) I am in a corp DUH! pput my post back mr mean moderator! ONE . Dont be so gawd damn quick to edits posts you nub! TWO. I am redoing my post so neneer neneer! All you smacktards think its a ******* great laugh about bobs loss. as one person said . your all jealous because they are good at what they do. So what if this idiot stole x amount of billions worth of ships & mods etc. I bet its mostly at the outposts he stole them from and in such cant be got at. All i hear from my old corpies that are in a GS corp is how they stomp over BOB. strange that they can do it when they out number the American Bob Members, and as such BOB stomp over them the rest of the time. BoB = Sucess GS = Wanna be PVPers who do thing but Scam like the Smacktards they are. Note. never liked GS/GF one bit. not even when they rented space from Black Omega Secruity in JQV. they sucked then and now they suck so hard you wont see any chrome on their exhaust pipes. but the GS sigs... Baka!
hothead Minmatar FATAL REVELATIONS	Posted - 2007.07.20 10:58:00 - [766] corp theives should be stoned to death tbh....no exscuse for it at all...
FourthStorm Shinra	Posted - 2007.07.20 11:02:00 - [767] Considering amount of Dev's moderation in this thread: I declare this an epic thread!
Saltire System-Lords	Posted - 2007.07.20 11:04:00 - [768] screenshots pls
Yggdrassill Yeltsin The Greater Goon The OSS	Posted - 2007.07.20 11:10:00 - [769] Originally by: hothead corp theives should be stoned to death tbh....no exscuse for it at all... You are mentally ill and need to get help.
Nocturnal Avenger The Ankou The Reckoning.	Posted - 2007.07.20 11:23:00 - [770] Originally by: Aaron Mirrorsaver they are in shock. and sir molle is trying to find out who to hang for this disgrace. for such a conniving character being in bob. I hope SirMolle is preparing tonights RL BBQ :) I'm hungry (and thirsty) and soon on my way - Carebear Pirate -
Fuglife Celestial Apocalypse Insurgency	Posted - 2007.07.20 12:24:00 - [771] According to welsh wizard (Flatliners boyfriend) he stole over 80 cap ships (10 of each dread/carrier) In excess of 400 T2 Cruisers (hacs/recons/commandships) and 11 T2 BPO's along with more T2 mods than you could shake a stick at.
welsh wizard 0utbreak	Posted - 2007.07.20 12:26:00 - [772] It is true, I said these things.
Malachon Draco eXceed Inc. INVICTUS.	Posted - 2007.07.20 12:34:00 - [773] Originally by: Nocturnal Avenger Originally by: Aaron Mirrorsaver they are in shock. and sir molle is trying to find out who to hang for this disgrace. for such a conniving character being in bob. I hope SirMolle is preparing tonights RL BBQ :) I'm hungry (and thirsty) and soon on my way It would be ballsy if Flatliner showed up at the BBQ. On the other hand, BoB are the greatest proponents of calling Eve 'just a game', right ------------------------------------------------ Murphy's Golden Rule: Whoever has the gold, makes the rules.
The Eyeball	Posted - 2007.07.20 12:49:00 - [774] Originally by: Fuglife According to welsh wizard (Flatliners boyfriend) he stole over 80 cap ships (10 of each dread/carrier) In excess of 400 T2 Cruisers (hacs/recons/commandships) and 11 T2 BPO's along with more T2 mods than you could shake a stick at. My mates, boyfriends, sisters, mothers, lovers, uncles, gardener said it was 300 carrier's, 500 dreads, 3000 cruisers and over 2'000'000 exotic dancers and he should know because he once sniffed the same pink carnation as an Evol members goldfish.
Darcuese Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.07.20 12:53:00 - [775] No point of discussing this kind of action if its good or bad. It always depend where you stand and what your perception is like. The FACT, in the end, is that this sort of situations give more variety to EVE weather you like it or not. Im pleased many ppl cheer on this over and over = maybe many morally boosted opponents in space = nice me, myself and I ------>
Nocturnal Avenger The Ankou The Reckoning.	Posted - 2007.07.20 12:55:00 - [776] Originally by: The Eyeball some stuff and over 2'000'000 exotic dancers 2M+ exotic dancers...!!! This is the heist of all time... - Carebear Pirate -
Incantare Caldari Darkness Inc.	Posted - 2007.07.20 13:00:00 - [777] Originally by: Darcuese No point of discussing this kind of action if its good or bad. It always depend where you stand and what your perception is like. The FACT, in the end, is that this sort of situations give more variety to EVE weather you like it or not. Im pleased many ppl cheer on this over and over = maybe many morally boosted opponents in space = nice A BoB post that is not filled with thinly veiled contempt? You should post more.
ponieus Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.07.20 13:08:00 - [778] Originally by: Hatuk Originally by: Zeveron Evol and BoB took a hit, big or small, time will tell. If you guys think that Evol and BoB are that weak atm: JUST BRING IT you 20 days in bob and talk about "bring it" those new (post war) bobitses are just so cute... just so you CANT use the same lame excuse. Here is a elder memember of over 2 years telling you to bring it if you got a pair. Your signature exceeds the maximum allowed filesize of 24000 bytes -Sahwoolo Etoophie ([email protected])
Frederick Skinner GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.07.20 13:20:00 - [779] Originally by: Jared Byar Am I the only one who thinks EVE forums would be "better" without BoB -and- Goons ? Actually, I think I'm with you on that.
Khayos UK Corp FATAL Alliance	Posted - 2007.07.20 13:30:00 - [780] To Evolution, Sorry about your loss. Whether you have replaced the funds/items were stolen, you have been stabbed in the back by someone you called a friend. That hurts no matter who you are. Yes, corp thieves and con men are part of EVE Online and are a character path that some players will choose. I admit that, however I have personally always felt that as (what I think) a morally correct person myself, it is not a path I or anyone with the same views would go down. I agree that yes EVE Online is a game, however, there are times when a game becomes more, when you speak to someone on Vent or TS for a few years, spend time with them PvP'ing or Ratting and form a friendship, where you talk about RL things, families and other such things, then they go and steal from you and your corp, then that is wrong (in my, and a hell of a lot of other players' minds too). Len This is my views, not necessarily that of UKCorp or FATAL Alliance
UGWidowmaker Caldari The Ankou The Reckoning.	Posted - 2007.07.20 13:30:00 - [781] who cares.... its just a corp theft as any others.. if its only 100 bill i doubt bob even whine.... 100 bill is nothing to em. OMFG I am the widowmaker stay tuned.
Goberth Ludwig eXceed Inc. INVICTUS.	Posted - 2007.07.20 13:31:00 - [782] Originally by: Darcuese No point of discussing this kind of action if its good or bad. It always depend where you stand and what your perception is like. The FACT, in the end, is that this sort of situations give more variety to EVE weather you like it or not. Im pleased many ppl cheer on this over and over = maybe many morally boosted opponents in space = nice Good post darcuese. - Gob Now with 20% extra emo!
Vyktor Abyss The Abyss Corporation	Posted - 2007.07.20 14:28:00 - [783] Edited by: Vyktor Abyss on 20/07/2007 14:33:49 Originally by: Angelonico Originally by: Vyktor Abyss I have my head so far up molle's ass I know what she ate for breakfast. Can't argue with you there bud. You Fecking Moron. You can't post an argument to my comment so you misquote me....how clever of you. That would be called liable, and you are not clever doing that. For your information, BoB are -10 Kill on sight to my corporation. My killboard will show the destruction of one of their T2 fit Myrmidons last week and I'll fire on them at every opportunity. I rarely have contact with BoB members though living in CVA space. I don't have a strong opinion about them. They seems to have their plonkers (- DBP? Why sign your name on every post?!?), but also a good proportion of mature posters, especially in the ideas section and the other areas I mostly read. So I'm "Up Sir Molle's ass?" - NO, you little muppet. Get your facts straight. For more info, I also used to have an alt 'Susan Nestor' of one of the directors of LTWAX (so he/she said) in my corp when I first got going, he seemed like a decent chap, and even got my corp set blue to LTWAX when they were living out in Syndicate. I liked Goonswarm back then but knew little about who they were to be honest. My first corp recruitment post I mentioned I was proud to have an experianced player with close links to LTWAX in my corp, which then got a chiding derogatory comment from a key BoB member 'Blacklight'...I was perplexed by this at the time, but now I see what he was on about. My view has been changing though over the year and a half since 'Susan Nestor' left us. It became clear to her we wouldn't merge into LTWAX as he/she desired (As was the real agenda). I have read and been impressed about Goonswarm's growth as a PVP entity, but also started reading more and more immature little prycks like you posting "How L33T they were" and "BoB suxx!!1Oneone". The posts about 'the great war' mostly got me to the point of ignoring it and all forum posts about it. Then there was the "Threadnaught" recently - a completely immature way to raise concerns wasting CCP's time and tarnishing their image. I also heard about posts mocking the real life death of a BoB member...And now there's you. You're now a shining example of what I now see as the average Goonswarm member. Congratulations - You're really spending your time well on these forums displaying to everyone what to expect from your Alliance. If a senior member of Goonswarm wants to apologise for you then I'll gladly accept it which would redeem the leadership in my eyes, but I've got to say I'm disappointed to have had to write all this for a little twerp like you so you can fully understand just why you are a moron. sigh - /me takes a break from the forums.... - Ideas are my business...maybe thats why I'm always skint! Please read my ideas
Don ZOLA Caldari Omniscient Order Cruel Intentions	Posted - 2007.07.20 14:30:00 - [784] Originally by: Vyktor Abyss Edited by: Vyktor Abyss on 20/07/2007 14:28:25 Originally by: Angelonico Originally by: Vyktor Abyss I have my head so far up molle's ass I know what she ate for breakfast. Can't argue with you there bud. You Fecking Moron. You can't post an argument to my comment so you misquote me....how clever of you. That would be called liable, and you are not clever doing that. For your information, BoB are -10 Kill on sight to my corporation. My killboard will show the destruction of on of their T2 fit Myrmidons last week and I'll fire on them at every opportunity. I rarely have contact with BoB members though living in CVA space. I don't have a strong opinion about them. They seems to have their plonkers (- DBP? Why sign your name on every post?!?), but also a good proportion of mature posters, especially in the ideas section and the other areas I mostly read. So I'm "Up Sir Molle's ass?" - NO, you little muppet. Get your facts straight. For more info, I also used to have an alt 'Susan Nestor' of one of the directors of LTWAX (so he/she said) in my corp when I first got going, he seemed like a decent chap, and even got my corp set blue to LTWAX when they were living out in Syndicate. I liked Goonswarm back then but knew little about who they were to be honest. My first corp recruitment post I mentioned I was proud to have an experianced player with close links to LTWAX in my corp, which then got a chiding derogatory comment from a key BoB member 'Blacklight'...I was perplexed by this at the time, but now I see what he was on about. My view has been changing though over the year and a half since 'Susan Nestor' left us. It became clear to her we wouldn't merge into LTWAX as he/she desired (As was the real agenda). I have read about Goonswarm's growth as a PVP entity, but also started reading more and more immature little prycks posting "How L33T they were" and "BoB suxx!!1Oneone". The post about 'the great war' mostly got me to the point of ignoring it. Then there was the "Threadnaught" recently - a completely immature way to raise concerns wasting CCP's time and tarnishing their image. I also heard about posts mocking the real life death of a BoB member...And now there's you. You're now a shining example of what I now see as the average Goonswarm member. Congratulations - You're really spending your time well on these forums displaying to everyone what to expect from your Alliance. If a senior member of Goonswarm wants to apologise for you then I'll gladly accept it which would redeem the leadership in my eyes, but I've got to say I'm disappointed to have had to write all this for a little twerp like you so you can fully understand just why you are a moron. sigh - /me takes a break from the forums.... bold aint cool :\|
Relaria Hossin GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.07.20 14:39:00 - [785] Oh man... THIS THREAD.
Airata	Posted - 2007.07.20 14:50:00 - [786] I guess its time for Ragoon to attack BoB while they busy restocking
Stoffer Ninjapirate Amarr GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.07.20 14:57:00 - [787] Originally by: Vyktor Abyss Edited by: Vyktor Abyss on 20/07/2007 14:33:49 Originally by: Angelonico Originally by: Vyktor Abyss I have my head so far up molle's ass I know what she ate for breakfast. Can't argue with you there bud. You Fecking Moron. You can't post an argument to my comment so you misquote me....how clever of you. That would be called liable, and you are not clever doing that. For your information, BoB are -10 Kill on sight to my corporation. My killboard will show the destruction of one of their T2 fit Myrmidons last week and I'll fire on them at every opportunity. I rarely have contact with BoB members though living in CVA space. I don't have a strong opinion about them. They seems to have their plonkers (- DBP? Why sign your name on every post?!?), but also a good proportion of mature posters, especially in the ideas section and the other areas I mostly read. So I'm "Up Sir Molle's ass?" - NO, you little muppet. Get your facts straight. For more info, I also used to have an alt 'Susan Nestor' of one of the directors of LTWAX (so he/she said) in my corp when I first got going, he seemed like a decent chap, and even got my corp set blue to LTWAX when they were living out in Syndicate. I liked Goonswarm back then but knew little about who they were to be honest. My first corp recruitment post I mentioned I was proud to have an experianced player with close links to LTWAX in my corp, which then got a chiding derogatory comment from a key BoB member 'Blacklight'...I was perplexed by this at the time, but now I see what he was on about. My view has been changing though over the year and a half since 'Susan Nestor' left us. It became clear to her we wouldn't merge into LTWAX as he/she desired (As was the real agenda). I have read and been impressed about Goonswarm's growth as a PVP entity, but also started reading more and more immature little prycks like you posting "How L33T they were" and "BoB suxx!!1Oneone". The posts about 'the great war' mostly got me to the point of ignoring it and all forum posts about it. Then there was the "Threadnaught" recently - a completely immature way to raise concerns wasting CCP's time and tarnishing their image. I also heard about posts mocking the real life death of a BoB member...And now there's you. You're now a shining example of what I now see as the average Goonswarm member. Congratulations - You're really spending your time well on these forums displaying to everyone what to expect from your Alliance. If a senior member of Goonswarm wants to apologise for you then I'll gladly accept it which would redeem the leadership in my eyes, but I've got to say I'm disappointed to have had to write all this for a little twerp like you so you can fully understand just why you are a moron. sigh - /me takes a break from the forums.... Calm down.
Daviclond Deep Core Mining Inc.	Posted - 2007.07.20 15:03:00 - [788] Originally by: Vyktor Abyss Edited by: Vyktor Abyss on 20/07/2007 14:33:49 Originally by: Angelonico Originally by: Vyktor Abyss I have my head so far up molle's ass I know what she ate for breakfast. Can't argue with you there bud. You Fecking Moron. You can't post an argument to my comment so you misquote me....how clever of you. That would be called liable, and you are not clever doing that. For your information, BoB are -10 Kill on sight to my corporation. My killboard will show the destruction of one of their T2 fit Myrmidons last week and I'll fire on them at every opportunity. I rarely have contact with BoB members though living in CVA space. I don't have a strong opinion about them. They seems to have their plonkers (- DBP? Why sign your name on every post?!?), but also a good proportion of mature posters, especially in the ideas section and the other areas I mostly read. So I'm "Up Sir Molle's ass?" - NO, you little muppet. Get your facts straight. For more info, I also used to have an alt 'Susan Nestor' of one of the directors of LTWAX (so he/she said) in my corp when I first got going, he seemed like a decent chap, and even got my corp set blue to LTWAX when they were living out in Syndicate. I liked Goonswarm back then but knew little about who they were to be honest. My first corp recruitment post I mentioned I was proud to have an experianced player with close links to LTWAX in my corp, which then got a chiding derogatory comment from a key BoB member 'Blacklight'...I was perplexed by this at the time, but now I see what he was on about. My view has been changing though over the year and a half since 'Susan Nestor' left us. It became clear to her we wouldn't merge into LTWAX as he/she desired (As was the real agenda). I have read and been impressed about Goonswarm's growth as a PVP entity, but also started reading more and more immature little prycks like you posting "How L33T they were" and "BoB suxx!!1Oneone". The posts about 'the great war' mostly got me to the point of ignoring it and all forum posts about it. Then there was the "Threadnaught" recently - a completely immature way to raise concerns wasting CCP's time and tarnishing their image. I also heard about posts mocking the real life death of a BoB member...And now there's you. You're now a shining example of what I now see as the average Goonswarm member. Congratulations - You're really spending your time well on these forums displaying to everyone what to expect from your Alliance. If a senior member of Goonswarm wants to apologise for you then I'll gladly accept it which would redeem the leadership in my eyes, but I've got to say I'm disappointed to have had to write all this for a little twerp like you so you can fully understand just why you are a moron. sigh - /me takes a break from the forums.... Ignoring your immature ad hominem attacks and strawman argument, I'll say only this;
Obron Mettlo Minmatar Black Omega Security Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2007.07.20 15:13:00 - [789] Originally by: Vyktor Abyss Edited by: Vyktor Abyss on 20/07/2007 14:33:49 Originally by: Angelonico Originally by: Vyktor Abyss I have my head so far up molle's ass I know what she ate for breakfast. Can't argue with you there bud. You Fecking Moron. You can't post an argument to my comment so you misquote me....how clever of you. That would be called liable, and you are not clever doing that. For your information, BoB are -10 Kill on sight to my corporation. My killboard will show the destruction of one of their T2 fit Myrmidons last week and I'll fire on them at every opportunity. I rarely have contact with BoB members though living in CVA space. I don't have a strong opinion about them. They seems to have their plonkers (- DBP? Why sign your name on every post?!?), but also a good proportion of mature posters, especially in the ideas section and the other areas I mostly read. So I'm "Up Sir Molle's ass?" - NO, you little muppet. Get your facts straight. For more info, I also used to have an alt 'Susan Nestor' of one of the directors of LTWAX (so he/she said) in my corp when I first got going, he seemed like a decent chap, and even got my corp set blue to LTWAX when they were living out in Syndicate. I liked Goonswarm back then but knew little about who they were to be honest. My first corp recruitment post I mentioned I was proud to have an experianced player with close links to LTWAX in my corp, which then got a chiding derogatory comment from a key BoB member 'Blacklight'...I was perplexed by this at the time, but now I see what he was on about. My view has been changing though over the year and a half since 'Susan Nestor' left us. It became clear to her we wouldn't merge into LTWAX as he/she desired (As was the real agenda). I have read and been impressed about Goonswarm's growth as a PVP entity, but also started reading more and more immature little prycks like you posting "How L33T they were" and "BoB suxx!!1Oneone". The posts about 'the great war' mostly got me to the point of ignoring it and all forum posts about it. Then there was the "Threadnaught" recently - a completely immature way to raise concerns wasting CCP's time and tarnishing their image. I also heard about posts mocking the real life death of a BoB member...And now there's you. You're now a shining example of what I now see as the average Goonswarm member. Congratulations - You're really spending your time well on these forums displaying to everyone what to expect from your Alliance. If a senior member of Goonswarm wants to apologise for you then I'll gladly accept it which would redeem the leadership in my eyes, but I've got to say I'm disappointed to have had to write all this for a little twerp like you so you can fully understand just why you are a moron. sigh - /me takes a break from the forums.... No Character can be found with 'Susan Nestor' in the beginning of its name. -----------------
LeCiD Altera Odyssea Tau Ceti Federation	Posted - 2007.07.20 15:40:00 - [790] Perhaps she returned to biomass.
Empyre Domestic Reform	Posted - 2007.07.20 15:53:00 - [791] Originally by: Stahlregen Hey dumbass, Our ***** CEO stole our titan. I think i know what i'm talking about here, seeing as your a member for some ***** pubbie corp. The only thing limiting you in getting to know a person in this game are your own social shortcomings and inability to conceive failsafes. ... Welp, Looks like my point still stands. Maybe if you actually attempted to form an argument next time... However, a better starting point would probably to get a clue first before you post next. how little you know, and dig thine hole deeper by using diatribe as the only substance to prove your point. but i should have known better than to talk sense and substance with a goonie. can't say you weren't warned.. /shrug. and can't blame a guy for trying. Please stop messing with my signature!!!
Tetsujin GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.07.20 15:58:00 - [792] Originally by: Empyre how little you know, and dig thine hole deeper by using diatribe as the only substance to prove your point. but i should have known better than to talk sense and substance with a goonie. can't say you weren't warned.. /shrug. and can't blame a guy for trying. Golly, for someone who uses words like "diatribe" you could do with a bit of a refresher course on how to begin a sentence.
Alias11 GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.07.20 16:06:00 - [793] Originally by: Vyktor Abyss You Fecking Moron. You can't post an argument to my comment so you misquote me....how clever of you. That would be called liable, and you are not clever doing that. Originally by: Vyktor Abyss You can't post an argument to my comment so you misquote me....how clever of you. That would be called liable, and you are not clever doing that. Originally by: Vyktor Abyss You can't post an argument to my comment so you misquote me....how clever of you. That would be called liable Originally by: Vyktor Abyss That would be called liable Originally by: Vyktor Abyss liable Furthermore,
Tetsujin GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.07.20 16:07:00 - [794] Edited by: Tetsujin on 20/07/2007 16:08:26 eahhehahhahaha "liable" wait wait ahhahahahah "apologize" Originally by: Kiko Goatbiter I'd say you were the worst mod going around eve forums but then again Hippoking Oh gosh my feelings...
Empyre Domestic Reform	Posted - 2007.07.20 16:09:00 - [795] Originally by: Tetsujin Originally by: Empyre how little you know, and dig thine hole deeper by using diatribe as the only substance to prove your point. but i should have known better than to talk sense and substance with a goonie. can't say you weren't warned.. /shrug. and can't blame a guy for trying. Golly, for someone who uses words like "diatribe" you could do with a bit of a refresher course on how to begin a sentence. if i was going for perfect english i would capitalize my sentences, make complete sentences and not use things like.. to separate. using words that are not commonly used in the right context should indicate i'm slightly educated. thus the lack of proper sentence structure should indicate that i either have split personalities or am not going for any awards. in this day and age of forum communications, having the years of experience the internet and web have provided, it actually comes as a compliment when someone can only attack ones punctuation and sentence structure. flowers and card are in the mail.. Please stop messing with my signature!!!
Tetsujin GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.07.20 16:11:00 - [796] no way am i reading that sorry
Flow Befort GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.07.20 16:16:00 - [797] goonfleet catchphrase
Flow Befort GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.07.20 16:16:00 - [798] goonfleet catchphrase
Goktar illiat Gallente DAB RAZOR Alliance	Posted - 2007.07.20 16:18:00 - [799] /me points and laughs
FrostedJin Caldari Dark Skullz Empire Vaccaei Imperial	Posted - 2007.07.20 16:18:00 - [800] Gentleman, lets get back to the issue at hand! Oh wait, pointless thread. Good read though. Carry on. _______________ Hope is the first step on the road to dissapointment.
Goktar illiat Gallente DAB RAZOR Alliance	Posted - 2007.07.20 16:18:00 - [801] /me points and laughs
FrostedJin Caldari Dark Skullz Empire Vaccaei Imperial	Posted - 2007.07.20 16:18:00 - [802] Gentleman, lets get back to the issue at hand! Oh wait, pointless thread. Good read though. Carry on. _______________ Hope is the first step on the road to dissapointment.
Victor Vision Central Intelligence Service	Posted - 2007.07.20 16:31:00 - [803] Originally by: NTRabbit Corp theft is despicable. It's just plain wrong! Originally by: ProphetGuru This is the only official statement you will recieve from Evolution regarding this incident. Flatliner did indeed clean out several of our hangars. It was him, he was not hacked, and Evolution is not contesting this, crying h4x, or sploit. It was a legit theft. Flatliner has been a good friend of ours, and mine, for years. He used this friendship in an attempt to destroy us, for his own reasons. I know not the real reason behind this, and in truth, I don't care. What is done is done. Evolution has ample reserves and while noone would be stupid enough to sit here and claim a blow like this doesn't hurt ingame, the reality is that much of the assets lost have already been replaced, and this in no way affects the strength of Evolution, or BoB. I know the muppet brigade is salivating... and to you I say what Evolution always says. Bring it. This is a testament to the strength and attitude of those of us who are on this ride we call Evolution. Events like this destroy weak corps. Events like this strengthen strong corps. We'll continue to Evolve. Well put. Just one thing, because I can not resist: Your new hookline should be changed from "bring it" to "take it" EVE War I - Quick Overview (Feb/March)
Stahlregen GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.07.20 16:38:00 - [804] Hey everyone shut up and look at my signature.
Benny Hill Caldari Deceased Inc	Posted - 2007.07.20 16:45:00 - [805] People are making this event our to be such a terrible "back-stabbing" thing and saying how evil Flatliner is - and how unfortunate it was for Evol. and how everyone feels so sorry. Get off of it. Flatliner made a standings reset, and set Evolution to neutral.
Azaeren Rens 911	Posted - 2007.07.20 16:49:00 - [806] Originally by: Stahlregen Hey everyone shut up and look at my signature. So has he even posted what he stole yet? Or is this still all the pubbies crying about E-HONOUR? ____________________________________________________
VCbee 979	Posted - 2007.07.20 16:59:00 - [807] Originally by: Empyre in this day and age of forum communications, having the years of experience the internet and web have provided, it actually comes as a compliment when someone can only attack ones punctuation and sentence structure. This is the greatest post I have ever seen.
frank frank Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.07.20 17:17:00 - [808] Originally by: VCbee 979 Originally by: Empyre in this day and age of forum communications, having the years of experience the internet and web have provided, it actually comes as a compliment when someone can only attack ones punctuation and sentence structure. This is the greatest post I have ever seen. snip Posting with an unidentified character and characters in NPC corporations in this forum is prohibited. If you wish to participate in the discussions here, be sure to have your corporation and or alliance status ticked in your forum settings. -frankfrank not affiliated with CCP (maybe)*
Fabricati Diem Burleigh and Strong	Posted - 2007.07.20 17:23:00 - [809] Originally by: Stahlregen Hey everyone shut up and look at my signature. That one's tough, but it's hard to get more abomination for your isk than the one with the orange treasure trail.
Saldio GoonFleet	Posted - 2007.07.20 17:24:00 - [810] lollin at dis
Sylvester Bucelli GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.07.20 18:02:00 - [811] Edited by: Sylvester Bucelli on 20/07/2007 18:02:57 Originally by: Vyktor Abyss Edited by: Vyktor Abyss on 20/07/2007 14:33:49 :tons of words: sigh - /me takes a break from the forums.... This post makes me want to think that someone like the person in my sig should cradle you in his arms and whisper into your ear that it's all alright and that we're all alright. oh and because this is my first post and i wanted to see what exactly :twisted: was.
Aerick Dawn Gallente The Arrow Project Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2007.07.20 18:37:00 - [812] omg at frank frank's sig! __________________ If I'm in a fair fight, i've done something terribly wrong.
Dahin Maza Nostra oooh Shiny	Posted - 2007.07.20 19:32:00 - [813] So here's a question: Why did he only hit those 3-4 stations? What stopped him from getting to the rest of the major hangars?
Plim Gallente Celestial Apocalypse Insurgency	Posted - 2007.07.20 19:48:00 - [814] Originally by: Dahin So here's a question: Why did he only hit those 3-4 stations? What stopped him from getting to the rest of the major hangars? Piles Rudolf: "I was sworn to absolute secrecy by Santa Claus."
Solid Wilko Minmatar InNova Tech Inc Storm Armada	Posted - 2007.07.20 20:00:00 - [815] Did Flat insure all the cap ships yet and undock and self destruct them in front of an Evol fleet?
Joycalyn REUNI0N Red Alliance	Posted - 2007.07.20 20:33:00 - [816] communism has it's price shrug
Callisto Ares Eve University Ivy League	Posted - 2007.07.20 20:54:00 - [817] Other than being a huge ISK amount of losses, what makes this game news? I don't see this as being in-game in character theft, seems like an abuse of friendship and trust gained over several years to take in-game items. The whole "planned for over a year" seems just like someone trying to justify a deplorable breach of RL trust. I feel bad for those that lost the ISK, if it costs me some $$$ to find out who's not a true friend you can trust early on, it's often worth the price.
blkmajik ZiTek Deepspace Explorations Prime Orbital Systems	Posted - 2007.07.20 21:11:00 - [818] Originally by: Callisto Ares Other than being a huge ISK amount of losses, what makes this game news? I don't see this as being in-game in character theft, seems like an abuse of friendship and trust gained over several years to take in-game items. The whole "planned for over a year" seems just like someone trying to justify a deplorable breach of RL trust. I feel bad for those that lost the ISK, if it costs me some $$$ to find out who's not a true friend you can trust early on, it's often worth the price. No need to justify. I can do it with one word: karma
Azaeren Rens 911	Posted - 2007.07.20 21:44:00 - [819] Originally by: Callisto Ares Other than being a huge ISK amount of losses, what makes this game news? I don't see this as being in-game in character theft, seems like an abuse of friendship and trust gained over several years to take in-game items. The whole "planned for over a year" seems just like someone trying to justify a deplorable breach of RL trust. I feel bad for those that lost the ISK, if it costs me some $$$ to find out who's not a true friend you can trust early on, it's often worth the price. If this would of been done by a well known person or corp, everyone would be stroking his long thick massive ego. But because it was done by a 'nobody', no one wants to care. People feel bad because it was done to OMG BOB. If it were done to eves new power block, redswarm, parades would be in the street. Too bad goons are too poor to have all that crap, and reds are smart. oh yeah -dbp ____________________________________________________
Grainsalt Free Corp	Posted - 2007.07.20 21:44:00 - [820] Originally by: Callisto Ares Other than being a huge ISK amount of losses, what makes this game news? I don't see this as being in-game in character theft, seems like an abuse of friendship and trust gained over several years to take in-game items. The whole "planned for over a year" seems just like someone trying to justify a deplorable breach of RL trust. I feel bad for those that lost the ISK, if it costs me some $$$ to find out who's not a true friend you can trust early on, it's often worth the price. Well .. Metagaming goes both ways I guess.. But I know how I would feal if a cop m8 screwed me over. I am sure BOB will survive though. Molle is probably gonna enjoy his BBQ either way ---
Icarus Starkiller Minmatar	Posted - 2007.07.20 21:45:00 - [821] Edited by: Icarus Starkiller on 20/07/2007 21:47:09 Originally by: Callisto Ares Other than being a huge ISK amount of losses, There are only two apparently revealed facts in this entire thread: Firstly, nothing was stolen/lost/whatever by all appearances. The person who perpetrated this alleged theft has not once posted so much as a single token of proof that anything more than one unit of Trit was nicked from Evolution's corp hangars. Secondly, judging by all of the Goonfleet signatures, they've suddenly to a pilot all become g*y (or females have taken over Sig creation). I've not seen so many shirtless males since the last time the prison gassed a recyard full of inmates. Not that I'm a homophobe, but sheesh... they're showing a whole lotta man meat in them sigs. - Life is pain...anyone who says differently is selling something.
Alan Bell Gallente Shiva Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2007.07.20 22:03:00 - [822] Originally by: Icarus Starkiller Edited by: Icarus Starkiller on 20/07/2007 21:47:09 Originally by: Callisto Ares Other than being a huge ISK amount of losses, There are only two apparently revealed facts in this entire thread: Firstly, nothing was stolen/lost/whatever by all appearances. The person who perpetrated this alleged theft has not once posted so much as a single token of proof that anything more than one unit of Trit was nicked from Evolution's corp hangars. Secondly, judging by all of the Goonfleet signatures, they've suddenly to a pilot all become g*y (or females have taken over Sig creation). I've not seen so many shirtless males since the last time the prison gassed a recyard full of inmates. Not that I'm a homophobe, but sheesh... they're showing a whole lotta man meat in them sigs. what are you talking about? if you read... some of this thread, you'll see that EVOL admitted that it had happened, and they werent affected at all by the incident, wrangler i think was in this thread, and said it was a corp theft. as to the GS sigs... you realize most of the pictures are recurring? only about 10-15 different sigs...(i think, i skipped second half except last 3 pages). there is nothing wrong with it, i think it was MC whos signatures contained females (quite attractive... almost all of them), but you didnt see any female players complaining about it, or male players. i think youll live. Baka!
podd0r Fudgepackers R Us	Posted - 2007.07.20 22:19:00 - [823] im offended by the scantly clad women
Flinx Evenstar Minmatar Spartan Industries Cruel Intentions	Posted - 2007.07.20 22:21:00 - [824] Originally by: Icarus Starkiller Edited by: Icarus Starkiller on 20/07/2007 21:47:09 Originally by: Callisto Ares Other than being a huge ISK amount of losses, There are only two apparently revealed facts in this entire thread: Firstly, nothing was stolen/lost/whatever by all appearances. The person who perpetrated this alleged theft has not once posted so much as a single token of proof that anything more than one unit of Trit was nicked from Evolution's corp hangars. Secondly, judging by all of the Goonfleet signatures, they've suddenly to a pilot all become g*y (or females have taken over Sig creation). I've not seen so many shirtless males since the last time the prison gassed a recyard full of inmates. Not that I'm a homophobe, but sheesh... they're showing a whole lotta man meat in them sigs. Can I say...what a numpty Flatliner cannot post in this thread atm because he is in an NPC corp. I would like to offer you at a reduced price, some IQ, as you seem to be lacking a fair bit, or maybe it was your attention span that caused you to skip past all the posts from BOB admitting the theft. One last word, before I go, yes I do think you suffer a little from homophobia, and you will be snipped for failing to understand the corp ticker policy I, erm, like kill things and stuff
Derious Eldrid Wolfsguard Corp	Posted - 2007.07.20 22:26:00 - [825] Originally by: Stahlregen Originally by: Derious Lock this already. It's nothing but a giant cess pool filled with maggots and worms with all the other vile crap you'd find in a cess pool. Oooooh wzatch out guys or he might unleash the awesome power of "Eldrid Wolfsguard Corp!" upon us, The largest 0.0 alliance in Eve won't know true fear until they face two-bit pubbie corp #9886. Get out of here dude. Lock this already. It's nothing but a giant cess pool filled with maggots and worms with all the other vile crap you'd find in a cess pool. What's your relation to this post? Goonswarm genious #3104968.
Flinx Evenstar Minmatar Spartan Industries Cruel Intentions	Posted - 2007.07.20 22:46:00 - [826] Originally by: Derious What's your relation to this post? Goonswarm genious #3104968. Maggots and worms The thread still requires the explanation of the theft from Flatliner, and the value he took. Due to the narrow sighted Mods, he cannot post here. When he spends 1mil and trains up corp management level 1, he will be allowed to post just like all the other alt flamers. (you really sorted that one out CCP..GJ ) Sucks to be a victim of corp theft, but you have to wonder what went on, when a long serving and trusted member decides he has had enough. I, erm, like kill things and stuff
Arl GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.07.20 22:47:00 - [827] Originally by: Derious Lock this already. It's nothing but a giant cess pool filled with maggots and worms with all the other vile crap you'd find in a cess pool. What's your relation to this post? Goonswarm genious #3104968. genius
Flinx Evenstar Minmatar Spartan Industries Cruel Intentions	Posted - 2007.07.20 22:49:00 - [828] Originally by: Arl Originally by: Derious Lock this already. It's nothing but a giant cess pool filled with maggots and worms with all the other vile crap you'd find in a cess pool. What's your relation to this post? Goonswarm genious #3104968. genius Yeah I was going to pick him up on that as well It's like someone saying that you have no "inteligence" I, erm, like kill things and stuff
Angelonico Battlestars GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.07.20 23:07:00 - [829] Originally by: Vyktor Abyss Edited by: Vyktor Abyss on 20/07/2007 14:33:49 A lot of useless **** Angelonico will never read. Sums it up right there pretty well.
Fearmax	Posted - 2007.07.21 02:30:00 - [830] Originally by: Vyktor Abyss Edited by: Vyktor Abyss on 20/07/2007 14:33:49 Originally by: Angelonico Originally by: Vyktor Abyss I have my head so far up molle's ass I know what she ate for breakfast. Can't argue with you there bud. You Fecking Moron. You can't post an argument to my comment so you misquote me....how clever of you. That would be called liable, and you are not clever doing that. For your information, BoB are -10 Kill on sight to my corporation. My killboard will show the destruction of one of their T2 fit Myrmidons last week and I'll fire on them at every opportunity. I rarely have contact with BoB members though living in CVA space. I don't have a strong opinion about them. They seems to have their plonkers (- DBP? Why sign your name on every post?!?), but also a good proportion of mature posters, especially in the ideas section and the other areas I mostly read. So I'm "Up Sir Molle's ass?" - NO, you little muppet. Get your facts straight. For more info, I also used to have an alt 'Susan Nestor' of one of the directors of LTWAX (so he/she said) in my corp when I first got going, he seemed like a decent chap, and even got my corp set blue to LTWAX when they were living out in Syndicate. I liked Goonswarm back then but knew little about who they were to be honest. My first corp recruitment post I mentioned I was proud to have an experianced player with close links to LTWAX in my corp, which then got a chiding derogatory comment from a key BoB member 'Blacklight'...I was perplexed by this at the time, but now I see what he was on about. My view has been changing though over the year and a half since 'Susan Nestor' left us. It became clear to her we wouldn't merge into LTWAX as he/she desired (As was the real agenda). I have read and been impressed about Goonswarm's growth as a PVP entity, but also started reading more and more immature little prycks like you posting "How L33T they were" and "BoB suxx!!1Oneone". The posts about 'the great war' mostly got me to the point of ignoring it and all forum posts about it. Then there was the "Threadnaught" recently - a completely immature way to raise concerns wasting CCP's time and tarnishing their image. I also heard about posts mocking the real life death of a BoB member...And now there's you. You're now a shining example of what I now see as the average Goonswarm member. Congratulations - You're really spending your time well on these forums displaying to everyone what to expect from your Alliance. If a senior member of Goonswarm wants to apologise for you then I'll gladly accept it which would redeem the leadership in my eyes, but I've got to say I'm disappointed to have had to write all this for a little twerp like you so you can fully understand just why you are a moron. sigh - /me takes a break from the forums.... the word you were trying to reach for and failed is libel, moran.
dastommy79 Di-Tron Heavy Industries Atlas Alliance	Posted - 2007.07.21 02:33:00 - [831] You like gladiator movies?
alon blackhelm Caldari Di-Tron Heavy Industries Atlas Alliance	Posted - 2007.07.21 03:49:00 - [832] nice one wish you could have gotten more but lets hope the next guy do:) [img]http://go-dl1.eve-files.com/media/corp/dastommy/Alon_2.JPG[img]
djNME DAB RAZOR Alliance	Posted - 2007.07.21 04:02:00 - [833] Originally by: dastommy79 You like gladiator movies? OMG.. can outbreak post more... ghey sigs 4tl? djNME
Bluestealth Minmatar BlueLabs	Posted - 2007.07.21 04:04:00 - [834] Originally by: Alan Bell I think it was MC whos signatures contained females (quite attractive... almost all of them), but you didnt see any female players complaining about it, or male players. Actually it's Outbreak, I think only a few MC players have girls in their sigs. <tinfoil>Although Outbreak is Mercenary Coalition's alt corp... so close enough</tinfoil> PS I think people are complaining because the female form is much more beautiful/sexy.
dastommy79 Di-Tron Heavy Industries Atlas Alliance	Posted - 2007.07.21 06:15:00 - [835] Originally by: djNME Originally by: dastommy79 You like gladiator movies? OMG.. can outbreak post more... ghey sigs 4tl? djNME Does my thorax make u feel uncomfortable? I'm sorry about that. I'm just lookin for a place to dock it, thats all
Havoc GunStar GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.07.21 06:21:00 - [836] Originally by: dastommy79 You like gladiator movies? Ever been to a turkish prison, Billy?
Lu Yan Gallente GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.07.21 10:54:00 - [837] If 100 bil is nothing to BoB, why don't they ever use their damn dreadfleet anymore? If they have so much, than dreads shouldn't be too hard to replace? Right?
Caldari Citizen 6280 Various Disease	Posted - 2007.07.21 11:00:00 - [838] Originally by: podd0r im offended by the scantly clad women that's cos you suck. --- Secret Forum Alt Secret Forum Alt They've given you a number because your name was offensive.
The Vince Gun Metal Priests The Makhai	Posted - 2007.07.21 11:18:00 - [839] Some Coverup going on in this Thread!!! Hi I hardly ever post in 4+ years and it still get removed. Flatliners posts, my post and Bob posts have been removed. Orginal posts still to be read on Eve search. Why is this. Can that internal commission find out which ISD ( what corp ) or whoever is on this case is doing this. GM posted this was to be a fair thread. Cause CCP learned and stuff. Dont look to me it is. Its fishy as hell. Can that ia commission look into it plz. Have a nice day The Vince
Iron Zarkasm Gallente Zarkastic Disease	Posted - 2007.07.21 12:15:00 - [840] Uh, hu. nice g*yswarm sigs Say, why do you play EVE? Because you can do things here, you can't do in RL, hm? Because of the fun to break rules, be a pirate, be rude, make wars et cetera. You can be immoral and it has no consequences? And didn't your mommy tell you not to trust friendly gentlemen out in the colourful internet, in this all healing, good space saving you from imagination? I'd say: well done, thief. Go learn, alliances. Don't cry, slaves.
Bullitnutz Minmatar GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.07.21 12:32:00 - [841] well this is certainly lol either way. even if it is 300 bil worth of stolen junk, and even if evol can absorb that kind of hit easily, they're still like the sheriff of nottingham and any theft is pretty funny. then again, if the thief is full of BS, then the big hubbub is funny.
Plim Gallente Celestial Apocalypse Insurgency	Posted - 2007.07.21 16:49:00 - [842] Flatliner makes a thread about his own heist and it gets locked and he gets redirected to this one lol Why is it that when there is a thread about a titan kill, then the people responsible for killing it make a battle report thread the same logic is not applied? CAOD logic free zone. Rudolf: "I was sworn to absolute secrecy by Santa Claus."
Desiderata Fabian GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.07.21 16:54:00 - [843] Dear Flatliner pls giev to goonswarm, k tnx bye.
fightnkill Dark Blade Incorporated	Posted - 2007.07.21 16:56:00 - [844] Well, That's what u can expect from Corp full of power-hungry players. Can say that the only thing that's uniting them would be them Winning wars. If they lose, Could have some sort of a devastating effect. As well, Purely ingenious lol Taking all their stuffs when A lot of senior Evol was chowing down on Burgers. Even thou Corp theft is a wrong thing to do, for BoB, I guess they deserve it for sure. Yeah It's fair for BoB to use cheap dirty tactics, but not others huh
Darcuese Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.07.21 16:58:00 - [845] While waiting for some fight, will post this. In no any way this was special move that could compare with some average scam in game or over forums that actually needed some skills and brain to be pulled out. However, if this was plan from start (i doubt it started 2 years ago though), my hat of for patience then . But, even though its big value, it cant be compared with some nice scams we saw in a past. But, i guess many of you dont share that opinion, and its ok. me, myself and I ------>
Astro Teller Milf Riders	Posted - 2007.07.21 17:06:00 - [846] I loled that the guy who pulled this off can't even make his OWN thread about it.
Flatliner Finite Horizon	Posted - 2007.07.21 17:23:00 - [847] Edited by: Flatliner on 21/07/2007 17:24:44 Hard to believe I can't have my own thread for my own heist. Even the original thread on my alts replies has mysteriously dissapeared. Along with all the cloning stations my character could clone jump to. Strange goings on indeed. Flatliner. IA!!
Devoras2 Amarr KIA Corp KIA Alliance	Posted - 2007.07.21 17:25:00 - [848] Looks like EVOL fell victim to evolution Dev It's great being Amarr, aint it?
turnschuh Beyond Divinity Inc	Posted - 2007.07.21 17:25:00 - [849] Edited by: turnschuh on 21/07/2007 17:25:11 Originally by: Flatliner Edited by: Flatliner on 21/07/2007 17:23:03 Hard to believe I can't have my own thread for my own heist. Even the original thread on my alt has mysteriously dissapeared. Along with all the cloning stations my character could clone jump to. Strange goings on indeed. Flatliner. IA!! there was no need for a new thread with that little content, you had your efame (not realy, worste heist ever), now go home. and dont forgett your tinfoils
dastommy79 Di-Tron Heavy Industries Atlas Alliance	Posted - 2007.07.21 17:26:00 - [850] Originally by: Havoc GunStar Originally by: dastommy79 You like gladiator movies? Ever been to a turkish prison, Billy? Have u ever seen a grown man naked, billy? Airplane FTW Hey mods, did i fix it right?
The Vince Gun Metal Priests The Makhai	Posted - 2007.07.21 17:26:00 - [851] Right this is getting silly !!! Just heared another coverup occured. Can the ia department plz look at this. Are we getting to the point where its ok if Bob robs cleans out a corp/allince its ok they can post about it and if happens to them not. I been in Evol. This is fishy. Who are the ISD doing this from what corp are they. Says enuff. CCP Let Flatliner post and dont lock it. Better for evryone. I refer to my other post http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=559022&page=29#868 Have a nice Day. The Vince PS . Plz dont make me post again ffs cause i getting annoyed now.
Darcuese Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.07.21 17:32:00 - [852] Originally by: The Vince PS . Plz dont make me post again ffs cause i getting annoyed now. Use gun then me, myself and I ------>
Lizhia Gallente Macabre Votum INVICTUS.	Posted - 2007.07.21 17:36:00 - [853] Originally by: Darcuese Originally by: The Vince PS . Plz dont make me post again ffs cause i getting annoyed now. Use gun then Sir.. Your e-honor! Theft in pictures
Asestorian Minmatar Sebiestor tribe	Posted - 2007.07.21 17:54:00 - [854] Because I'm not in a corp I supposed I shouldn't post here but seriously.. ******* EMAIL THE IA INSTEAD OF POSTING HERE! That's why the have an email address, so you can.. You know.. Email them. --- ---
Vyktor Abyss The Abyss Corporation	Posted - 2007.07.21 17:55:00 - [855] Originally by: Fearmax Originally by: Vyktor Abyss Edited by: Vyktor Abyss on 20/07/2007 14:33:49 Originally by: Angelonico Originally by: Vyktor Abyss I have my head so far up molle's ass I know what she ate for breakfast. Can't argue with you there bud. You Fecking Moron. You can't post an argument to my comment so you misquote me....how clever of you. That would be called liable, and you are not clever doing that. For your information, BoB are -10 Kill on sight to my corporation. My killboard will show the destruction of one of their T2 fit Myrmidons last week and I'll fire on them at every opportunity. I rarely have contact with BoB members though living in CVA space. I don't have a strong opinion about them. They seems to have their plonkers (- DBP? Why sign your name on every post?!?), but also a good proportion of mature posters, especially in the ideas section and the other areas I mostly read. So I'm "Up Sir Molle's ass?" - NO, you little muppet. Get your facts straight. For more info, I also used to have an alt 'Susan Nestor' of one of the directors of LTWAX (so he/she said) in my corp when I first got going, he seemed like a decent chap, and even got my corp set blue to LTWAX when they were living out in Syndicate. I liked Goonswarm back then but knew little about who they were to be honest. My first corp recruitment post I mentioned I was proud to have an experianced player with close links to LTWAX in my corp, which then got a chiding derogatory comment from a key BoB member 'Blacklight'...I was perplexed by this at the time, but now I see what he was on about. My view has been changing though over the year and a half since 'Susan Nestor' left us. It became clear to her we wouldn't merge into LTWAX as he/she desired (As was the real agenda). I have read and been impressed about Goonswarm's growth as a PVP entity, but also started reading more and more immature little prycks like you posting "How L33T they were" and "BoB suxx!!1Oneone". The posts about 'the great war' mostly got me to the point of ignoring it and all forum posts about it. Then there was the "Threadnaught" recently - a completely immature way to raise concerns wasting CCP's time and tarnishing their image. I also heard about posts mocking the real life death of a BoB member...And now there's you. You're now a shining example of what I now see as the average Goonswarm member. Congratulations - You're really spending your time well on these forums displaying to everyone what to expect from your Alliance. If a senior member of Goonswarm wants to apologise for you then I'll gladly accept it which would redeem the leadership in my eyes, but I've got to say I'm disappointed to have had to write all this for a little twerp like you so you can fully understand just why you are a moron. sigh - /me takes a break from the forums.... the word you were trying to reach for and failed is libel, moran. Congratulations once again...More worthless replies. You quote my whole post ignore the content and point out a spelling mistake, which just reinforces my points. Thanks. The monkeys are out their cages and are running the zoo...I applaud you. - Ideas are my business...maybe thats why I'm always skint! Please read my ideas
Barkode Fourth Dimension	Posted - 2007.07.21 17:56:00 - [856] Originally by: Asestorian Because I'm not in a corp I supposed I shouldn't post here but seriously.. ******* EMAIL THE IA INSTEAD OF POSTING HERE! That's why the have an email address, so you can.. You know.. Email them. Didn't you read the rules before posting? You aren't allowed to make sense in CAOD. -----
Asestorian Minmatar Sebiestor tribe	Posted - 2007.07.21 18:07:00 - [857] Sorry, I'm a bit of a rebel, I don't follow the rules --- ---
The Vince Gun Metal Priests The Makhai	Posted - 2007.07.21 18:12:00 - [858] Originally by: Darcuese Originally by: The Vince PS . Plz dont make me post again ffs cause i getting annoyed now. Use gun then Hi dunno who let yu into BoB but plz seek professional help. Yu sir are a disgrace for Dice, Bob and the Eve community. Dont think we want people like yu here. The Vince
Darcuese Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.07.21 18:14:00 - [859] Edited by: Darcuese on 21/07/2007 18:14:33 Originally by: The Vince Originally by: Darcuese Originally by: The Vince PS . Plz dont make me post again ffs cause i getting annoyed now. Use gun then Hi dunno who let yu into BoB but plz seek professional help. Yu sir are a disgrace for Dice, Bob and the Eve community. Dont think we want people like yu here. The Vince Why would i care if ppl would like me in virtual world? me, myself and I ------>
Denissa	Posted - 2007.07.21 18:16:00 - [860] Ask yourself this, would you prefer to play BOB online, or RaGoon online? I for one can read, and have thought about the future of eve... Do we, as a eve community really want to see Red Aliance (nothing so much agaisnt them) or Goon (their posts speak for themselfs) as the dominate force in the game? Hopefully this theft is what it looks like and is quite survivable. /me signed in hopes that you win the war, for I would much rather play bob online should it ever come to that.
Stoffer Ninjapirate Amarr GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.07.21 18:19:00 - [861] You're of course assuming that we have a wish to rule the world, which is pretty far from what we want.
dastommy79 Di-Tron Heavy Industries Atlas Alliance	Posted - 2007.07.21 18:23:00 - [862] Originally by: Denissa Ask yourself this, would you prefer to play BOB online, or RaGoon online? I for one can read, and have thought about the future of eve... Do we, as a eve community really want to see Red Aliance (nothing so much agaisnt them) or Goon (their posts speak for themselfs) as the dominate force in the game? Hopefully this theft is what it looks like and is quite survivable. /me signed in hopes that you win the war, for I would much rather play bob online should it ever come to that. Wow u have no idea whats going on with this whole war Hey mods, did i fix it right?
Relaria Hossin GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.07.21 19:12:00 - [863] This thread just keeps on delivering the entertainment.
Raevenor GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.07.21 19:27:00 - [864] Originally by: Relaria Hossin This thread just keeps on delivering the entertainment. Talk about owned.
Angelonico Battlestars GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.07.21 19:48:00 - [865] Edited by: Angelonico on 21/07/2007 19:48:28 Originally by: Vyktor Abyss Why am I still posting? I'm clearly a stupid****got who no one pays attention to. I really love looking foolish. Your insight astonishes me.
RtoZ	Posted - 2007.07.21 20:18:00 - [866] I don't normally post here as I am not in any lowsec corp or alliance at present, however I have a few comments I would like to make and think they are important enough to be allowed in this forum. I am not an alt, this is my main, as can be verified by any ISD member. 1) I have allways been against deception type gameplay. This sort of behaviour sucks in real life, I've lived through enough of it, and makes for crap gameplay IMO. BUT: if CCP thinks otherwise and wants an anything goes allmost type of environment, well, sorry BoB, but you've lived by the sword and so shall you "die" by the sword. The few "official" statements about this issue seem to accept this, and for that I salute the fairplay. 2) The rest of EVE is watching CCP. The whole T20 scandal is fresh on our minds and the simple fact that flatliner was immediatly banned seems to suggest the level of ccp attention to BoB is disproportionate. Also, if there is now an internal investigation department in CCP I request, hopefully on behalf of the greater EVE community, that it investigate Flatliners insinuations of jumpclones dissapearing and produce an official statement on the matter. Trust between ccp and the greater number of its clients is still a bit shaky atm and we deserve this attention. As far as I can tell flatliner played EVE within EVE rules, and if that is so his gameplay should be unobstructed. Flatliner: List of stolen items? I'm sure allmost all of eve would read it...
Jomin Herdsy GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.07.21 20:18:00 - [867] I await BoBs response to this goonies dont know whay they getting themselves into here. u mess with tha bull nd get tha horns Your signature exceeds the maximum allowed filesize of 24000 bytes -Sahwoolo
DeckardIRL The Randoms	Posted - 2007.07.21 20:42:00 - [868] : Jamesons drip attached... The fact that CCP Wrangler locked Flatliners own thread is poor form to say the least. That does not excuse the fact the Flatliners own thread is **** poor itself... a year in the planning and those screenies are the best you can come up with?... fire your PR or hire me.... However, you are now famous as the largest Corp Thief yet... although your screenies in no way support that assumption. 400Bn loss for Evol (Titan plus theft) will hurt no doubt, but the fact that Molle was in a new Avatar the next day after the titan loss means thats even this loss is only a blip and that they will be drinking Asti Spumante instead of Moet et Chandon at the BoB BBQ... nevermind.... Deck
Lizhia Gallente Macabre Votum INVICTUS.	Posted - 2007.07.21 20:48:00 - [869] Originally by: DeckardIRL : Jamesons drip attached... The fact that CCP Wrangler locked Flatliners own thread is poor form to say the least. That does not excuse the fact the Flatliners own thread is **** poor itself... a year in the planning and those screenies are the best you can come up with?... fire your PR or hire me.... However, you are now famous as the largest Corp Thief yet... although your screenies in no way support that assumption. 400Bn loss for Evol (Titan plus theft) will hurt no doubt, but the fact that Molle was in a new Avatar the next day after the titan loss means thats even this loss is only a blip and that they will be drinking Asti Spumante instead of Moet et Chandon at the BoB BBQ... nevermind.... Deck Didnt he highjack another members titan?
Benny Hill Caldari Deceased Inc	Posted - 2007.07.21 20:53:00 - [870] Edited by: Benny Hill on 21/07/2007 20:53:24 Originally by: Icarus Starkiller Secondly, judging by all of the Goonfleet signatures, they've suddenly to a pilot all become g*y (or females have taken over Sig creation). I've not seen so many shirtless males since the last time the prison gassed a recyard full of inmates. Not that I'm a homophobe, but sheesh... they're showing a whole lotta man meat in them sigs. No, they just finallyc ame out of the closet!
Gabba The Three Hundred	Posted - 2007.07.21 20:55:00 - [871] He is flyinf Rast's titan isnt he?
Moon Kitten GoonFleet	Posted - 2007.07.21 20:59:00 - [872] Originally by: DeckardIRL : Jamesons drip attached... The fact that CCP Wrangler locked Flatliners own thread is poor form to say the least. That does not excuse the fact the Flatliners own thread is ** poor itself... a year in the planning and those screenies are the best you can come up with?... fire your PR or hire me.... However, you are now famous as the largest Corp Thief yet... although your screenies in no way support that assumption. Perhaps he cares more about the actual theft than the aftermath and fame that follows it. Originally by:** DeckardIRL 400Bn loss for Evol (Titan plus theft) will hurt no doubt, but the fact that Molle was in a new Avatar the next day after the titan loss means thats even this loss is only a blip and that they will be drinking Asti Spumante instead of Moet et Chandon at the BoB BBQ... nevermind.... Deck Yeah, taking another titan pilots titan after losing your own sure shows how rich you are. * Loses a battleships * Takes another battleship from a corpmate Just look how rich and competent I am I live under a bridge
DeckardIRL The Randoms	Posted - 2007.07.21 21:39:00 - [873] Originally by: Moon Kitten Yeah, taking another titan pilots titan after losing your own sure shows how rich you are. Yeah, and how are you supposing that the Titan was destined for someone else? And why is my sig truncated? Deck Scotch (& Bourbon)is called Scotch (& Bourbon) cause it ain't whiskey Whiskey is Irish and we accept no imitations 8)
Moon Kitten GoonFleet	Posted - 2007.07.21 21:41:00 - [874] Originally by: DeckardIRL Originally by: Moon Kitten Yeah, taking another titan pilots titan after losing your own sure shows how rich you are. Yeah, and how are you supposing that the Titan was destined for someone else? And why is my sig truncated? Deck Perhaps the former titan pilot? I live under a bridge
DeckardIRL The Randoms	Posted - 2007.07.21 21:43:00 - [875] Edited by: DeckardIRL on 21/07/2007 21:43:47 Originally by: Moon Kitten Perhaps the former titan pilot? So, Name names or STFU? Deck Edit: sig is work in progress Scotch (& Bourbon)is called Scotch (& Bourbon) cause it ain't whiskey Whiskey is Irish and we accept no imitations 8)
Cleveland Steam Neverland Ranch Hands	Posted - 2007.07.21 22:02:00 - [876] The sad part about the whole thing is that the money stolen was earmarked for getting inner-city children out of the ghetto. They're the Little BoB Urban Achievers - inner city children of promise but without the necessary means for a necessary means for a higher education. So BoB is committed to sending all of them to college. Plz dont nerf my sig again...
Relaria Hossin GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.07.21 22:05:00 - [877] Originally by: Cleveland Steam The sad part about the whole thing is that the money stolen was earmarked for getting inner-city children out of the ghetto. They're the Little BoB Urban Achievers - inner city children of promise but without the necessary means for a necessary means for a higher education. So BoB is committed to sending all of them to college. Obviously this is a lie because BoB hates newbies.

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RtoZ	Posted - 2007.07.21 22:40:00 - [879] Molle is heavily influential in making Evol and BoB what it is. I remember playing him way back when in homeworld and he is what can only be described as a "power gamer". The fact that someone in BoB gave up a titan seat of all things imo is a sign of respect more than anything else... And iirc this isn't the biggest theft in eve history. Corp theft possibly, biggest sustained loss by an eve entity also possibly, but the Eve Investment Bank ripoff was around 700b wasn't it?
Asestorian Minmatar Sebiestor tribe	Posted - 2007.07.21 22:42:00 - [880] Edited by: Asestorian on 21/07/2007 22:42:32 No I'm pretty sure that was exaggerated. Edit: Lets see how long I can go posting in this forum without a corp before the mods notice.. Teeheehee. --- ---
Plim Gallente Celestial Apocalypse Insurgency	Posted - 2007.07.22 00:15:00 - [881] I heard that Flatliner also gave 89% of Evol members piles before he left, then stole the pile cream from the hangers. Rudolf: "I was sworn to absolute secrecy by Santa Claus."
Stoffer Ninjapirate Amarr GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.07.22 04:27:00 - [882] Originally by: DeckardIRL : Jamesons drip attached... The fact that CCP Wrangler locked Flatliners own thread is poor form to say the least. That does not excuse the fact the Flatliners own thread is **** poor itself... a year in the planning and those screenies are the best you can come up with?... fire your PR or hire me.... However, you are now famous as the largest Corp Thief yet... although your screenies in no way support that assumption. 400Bn loss for Evol (Titan plus theft) will hurt no doubt, but the fact that Molle was in a new Avatar the next day after the titan loss means thats even this loss is only a blip and that they will be drinking Asti Spumante instead of Moet et Chandon at the BoB BBQ... nevermind.... Deck Like all the other pubbies talking about internal BOB affairs (which you by default know nothing about), you're stupid.
Necro EvilZombie North Eastern Swat Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2007.07.22 04:49:00 - [883] --------------------------------------------------------------
Orangir GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.07.22 05:48:00 - [884] Originally by: RtoZ The fact that someone in BoB gave up a titan seat of all things imo is a sign of respect more than anything else... No, it's a sign that Hegemon didn't want to be set red when Molle demanded his titan and he said no.
fightnkill Dark Blade Incorporated	Posted - 2007.07.22 07:36:00 - [885] Originally by: Denissa Ask yourself this, would you prefer to play BOB online, or RaGoon online? I for one can read, and have thought about the future of eve... Do we, as a eve community really want to see Red Aliance (nothing so much agaisnt them) or Goon (their posts speak for themselfs) as the dominate force in the game? Hopefully this theft is what it looks like and is quite survivable. /me signed in hopes that you win the war, for I would much rather play bob online should it ever come to that. Way better then Cheaters.
Jane Vladmir Gallente Dreamscape Sparta Alliance	Posted - 2007.07.22 07:51:00 - [886] Juicy, Flatliner, real nice.
Jaikar Isillia The Vinlanders Dark Matter Coalition	Posted - 2007.07.22 08:15:00 - [887] Originally by: fightnkill Originally by: Denissa Ask yourself this, would you prefer to play BOB online, or RaGoon online? I for one can read, and have thought about the future of eve... Do we, as a eve community really want to see Red Aliance (nothing so much agaisnt them) or Goon (their posts speak for themselfs) as the dominate force in the game? Hopefully this theft is what it looks like and is quite survivable. /me signed in hopes that you win the war, for I would much rather play bob online should it ever come to that. Way better then Cheaters. lol
Voculus E X O D U S Imperial Republic Of the North	Posted - 2007.07.22 08:17:00 - [888] Originally by: Denissa Ask yourself this, would you prefer to play BOB online, or RaGoon online? I for one can read, and have thought about the future of eve... Do we, as a eve community really want to see Red Aliance (nothing so much agaisnt them) or Goon (their posts speak for themselfs) as the dominate force in the game? Hopefully this theft is what it looks like and is quite survivable. /me signed in hopes that you win the war, for I would much rather play bob online should it ever come to that. Hmmm, let's see. An alliance who cheats, metagames, has devs on MSN, and lies about it all, or another alliance whose biggest crime is forum shenanigans? Forum stuff aside, RAGOON killed a BoB Titan, and justice in this game does not get sweeter than that. Goons > BoB _________________________________________________________
Krynder Perkone	Posted - 2007.07.22 08:19:00 - [889] Originally by: Voculus Originally by: Denissa Ask yourself this, would you prefer to play BOB online, or RaGoon online? I for one can read, and have thought about the future of eve... Do we, as a eve community really want to see Red Aliance (nothing so much agaisnt them) or Goon (their posts speak for themselfs) as the dominate force in the game? Hopefully this theft is what it looks like and is quite survivable. /me signed in hopes that you win the war, for I would much rather play bob online should it ever come to that. Hmmm, let's see. An alliance who cheats, metagames, has devs on MSN, and lies about it all, or another alliance whose biggest crime is forum shenanigans? Forum stuff aside, RAGOON killed a BoB Titan, and justice in this game does not get sweeter than that. Goons > BoB BoB has been a blight on this game, tarnishing CCP's reputation especially.
Stoffer Ninjapirate Amarr GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.07.22 08:20:00 - [890] Of all the excellent Blackadder episodes, that one is my favorite.
Alias11 GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.07.22 08:41:00 - [891] Originally by: DeckardIRL Originally by: Moon Kitten Yeah, taking another titan pilots titan after losing your own sure shows how rich you are. Yeah, and how are you supposing that the Titan was destined for someone else? And why is my sig truncated? Anyone seen hegemon rast and shrike in the same system recently? Hell, anyone seen hegemon rast at all?
arghy steelwill GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.07.22 10:07:00 - [892] Originally by: Alias11 Originally by: DeckardIRL Originally by: Moon Kitten Yeah, taking another titan pilots titan after losing your own sure shows how rich you are. Yeah, and how are you supposing that the Titan was destined for someone else? And why is my sig truncated? Anyone seen hegemon rast and shrike in the same system recently? Hell, anyone seen hegemon rast at all? I believe i saw him crying and wondering aimlessly through the wastes singing of past glorys. But really i liked that guy, he never could fire his DD straight but damned if he dident try! a true goon he shoulda ditched you guys and joined us- he would be more happy in a frigate instead of a giant dong(which shakes). Shot at 2007-07-19
Pantalones Piscado Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.07.22 12:39:00 - [893] Replying in a hegemon rast thread cool guy, convo'd him on the premise of cybering and he actually humored and chatted for a while... as he was camping 9-9 sbing the undock, silly goose. Sig removed. If you would like further details please mail [email protected] with a link to your signature. - Elmo Pug
Marodi Alivar SUBLIME L.L.C. SMASH Alliance	Posted - 2007.07.22 15:34:00 - [894] I'd rather see RA, who has more or less played the game fairly (no one is perfect), along with Goon who's shenanigans are very amusing, as the dominant force(s). BoB on the other hand has abused the game on so many levels that I will cheer the day they are gone. Which will happen some day. (It's gonna be WW4 when there is no BoB though due to no more common enemy)
Elmicker The Phoenix Rising FreeFall Securities	Posted - 2007.07.22 15:58:00 - [895] Originally by: Marodi Alivar I'd rather see RA, who has more or less played the game fairly ahahaaahahahahahahhahhahahhahhahhaaaahhahaha... I laughed so hard i wee'd a little.
General Windypops Gallente Skullduggery Inc	Posted - 2007.07.22 16:21:00 - [896] Originally by: Elmicker Originally by: Marodi Alivar I'd rather see RA, who has more or less played the game fairly ahahaaahahahahahahhahhahahhahhahhaaaahhahaha... I laughed so hard i wee'd a little. Exactly! I see that plex abuse and logoff exploits are now considered fair. Just goes to show how screwed the morality of many in the Cryalition has become. As for Goons, their only crime is forum shenanigans is it? How about the fact that they actually tried to destroy the game? Or wait, what about their racist and illegal image spamming on the forums shortly after their threadnought? Or how about the time when they mocked the real life death of a player in forum sigs? Or how about their routine use of bookmark dumps and shuttle spams to screw up fleet fights? I could go on, but I'm hungry, so going downstairs to get a pepperami.
Bein Glorious GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.07.22 16:29:00 - [897] quick boys, get the bloody shirt ready
Stahlregen GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.07.22 17:27:00 - [898] Originally by: General Windypops Or how about the time when they mocked the real life death of a player in forum sigs? Why don't you try and grief us out of the game about it, It worked so well for bob. LOOOOOOOOOOOL you belong to a loser corp.
Ogodai John The Bakhunov Family	Posted - 2007.07.22 17:35:00 - [899] Bobbits to the alt mobile!
With JudgeReinhold Gallente Legal Team	Posted - 2007.07.22 17:37:00 - [900] Originally by: General Windypops Originally by: Elmicker Originally by: Marodi Alivar I'd rather see RA, who has more or less played the game fairly ahahaaahahahahahahhahhahahhahhahhaaaahhahaha... I laughed so hard i wee'd a little. Exactly! I see that plex abuse and logoff exploits are now considered fair. Just goes to show how screwed the morality of many in the Cryalition has become. As for Goons, their only crime is forum shenanigans is it? How about the fact that they actually tried to destroy the game? Or wait, what about their racist and illegal image spamming on the forums shortly after their threadnought? Or how about the time when they mocked the real life death of a player in forum sigs? Or how about their routine use of bookmark dumps and shuttle spams to screw up fleet fights? I could go on, but I'm hungry, so going downstairs to get a pepperami. GOONIES Quote: If I had the inclination to type out the examples of teamwork and brotherhood displayed by Evolutions members and our brothers in BOB during the last 48 hours I would, but to be honest, none of
Flow Befort GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.07.22 17:51:00 - [901] Originally by: With JudgeReinhold Originally by: General Windypops Originally by: Elmicker Originally by: Marodi Alivar I'd rather see RA, who has more or less played the game fairly ahahaaahahahahahahhahhahahhahhahhaaaahhahaha... I laughed so hard i wee'd a little. Exactly! I see that plex abuse and logoff exploits are now considered fair. Just goes to show how screwed the morality of many in the Cryalition has become. As for Goons, their only crime is forum shenanigans is it? How about the fact that they actually tried to destroy the game? Or wait, what about their racist and illegal image spamming on the forums shortly after their threadnought? Or how about the time when they mocked the real life death of a player in forum sigs? Or how about their routine use of bookmark dumps and shuttle spams to screw up fleet fights? I could go on, but I'm hungry, so going downstairs to get a pepperami. GOONIES i know rite I can't wait until BOB wipes those evil goonies off the map
RedlegSA Gallente GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.07.22 19:31:00 - [902] Originally by: General Windypops Originally by: Elmicker Originally by: Marodi Alivar I'd rather see RA, who has more or less played the game fairly ahahaaahahahahahahhahhahahhahhahhaaaahhahaha... I laughed so hard i wee'd a little. Exactly! I see that plex abuse and logoff exploits are now considered fair. Just goes to show how screwed the morality of many in the Cryalition has become. As for Goons, their only crime is forum shenanigans is it? How about the fact that they actually tried to destroy the game? Or wait, what about their racist and illegal image spamming on the forums shortly after their threadnought? Or how about the time when they mocked the real life death of a player in forum sigs? Or how about their routine use of bookmark dumps and shuttle spams to screw up fleet fights? I could go on, but I'm hungry, so going downstairs to get a pepperami. I am the pepperami referenced in this post
Etto Neppeo ENACO	Posted - 2007.07.22 19:34:00 - [903] tbh looks like just another (though extremely successful) PR action from BoB. i mean think of it, we know that mr f took some stuff from BoB hangars. at first they said about 100 bil worth, then it changed to 300 bil then a bob member comes in and tells that mr f could steel 3 times more but didn't "for unknown reasons". of course neither of these numbers were proven in any way like screenshots (if im wrong links plz). only real prove we have is CCP dev words that some thievery have occured, "large enough to ban acc for duration of investigation". but again with absolutely no numbers. and do we know what then happened with the stuff? have any1 seen some of it for sale or given out or hauled away or anything? i mean are there proofs that mr f didn't just give the stuff back to bob for example? or won't do so in the near future when bob asks? as of mr f well they might boot him but who stops the actual person from buying the new pvp or using the unknown alt for further bob membership? however this whole affair is benificial for bob as they probably don't profit anymore from the uber all pwning alliance image they had till now. now the public opinion will change in their favor because of all the empathy for the corp thievery victim. also CCP image have improved after they unbanned mr f after the "swift investigation". i guess BoBs have invented the whole thing after goonies titan fund drama.
Flinx Evenstar Minmatar Spartan Industries Cruel Intentions	Posted - 2007.07.22 19:40:00 - [904] Originally by: Etto Neppeo tbh looks like just another (though extremely successful) PR action from BoB. i mean think of it, we know that mr f took some stuff from BoB hangars. at first they said about 100 bil worth, then it changed to 300 bil then a bob member comes in and tells that mr f could steel 3 times more but didn't "for unknown reasons". of course neither of these numbers were proven in any way like screenshots (if im wrong links plz). only real prove we have is CCP dev words that some thievery have occured, "large enough to ban acc for duration of investigation". but again with absolutely no numbers. and do we know what then happened with the stuff? have any1 seen some of it for sale or given out or hauled away or anything? i mean are there proofs that mr f didn't just give the stuff back to bob for example? or won't do so in the near future when bob asks? as of mr f well they might boot him but who stops the actual person from buying the new pvp or using the unknown alt for further bob membership? however this whole affair is benificial for bob as they probably don't profit anymore from the uber all pwning alliance image they had till now. now the public opinion will change in their favor because of all the empathy for the corp thievery victim. also CCP image have improved after they unbanned mr f after the "swift investigation". i guess BoBs have invented the whole thing after goonies titan fund drama. You watch too much X-files I, erm, like kill things and stuff
Etto Neppeo ENACO	Posted - 2007.07.22 20:14:00 - [905] Originally by: Flinx Evenstar You watch too much X-files no just a critical view and common sense - relatively rare things nowadays.
Alias11 GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.07.22 22:36:00 - [906] Originally by: Etto Neppeo Originally by: Flinx Evenstar You watch too much X-files no just a critical view and common sense - relatively rare things nowadays. You should probably slit your wrists with occam's razor
Orangir GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.07.22 22:52:00 - [907] Originally by: General Windypops Exactly! I see that plex abuse and logoff exploits are now considered fair. Just goes to show how screwed the morality of many in the Cryalition has become. As for Goons, their only crime is forum shenanigans is it? How about the fact that they actually tried to destroy the game? Or wait, what about their racist and illegal image spamming on the forums shortly after their threadnought? Or how about the time when they mocked the real life death of a player in forum sigs? Or how about their routine use of bookmark dumps and shuttle spams to screw up fleet fights? I could go on, but I'm hungry, so going downstairs to get a pepperami. Ok we get it, your gimmick is that you don't like goons. Can you please stop posting now?
Civrax GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.07.22 22:55:00 - [908] Edited by: Civrax on 22/07/2007 22:55:30 Originally by: General Windypops Exactly! I see that plex abuse and logoff exploits are now considered fair. Just goes to show how screwed the morality of many in the Cryalition has become. As for Goons, their only crime is forum shenanigans is it? How about the fact that they actually tried to destroy the game? Or wait, what about their racist and illegal image spamming on the forums shortly after their threadnought? Or how about the time when they mocked the real life death of a player in forum sigs? Or how about their routine use of bookmark dumps and shuttle spams to screw up fleet fights? I could go on, but I'm hungry, so going downstairs to get a pepperami. So setting up POSs around EVE to run complexes is now an exploit? But, what about those complex's in BoB space that respawned every hour that it took a member of that coalition to put a stop too? My goodness, what a one-sided opinion of right and wrong you have! So much about what people "know" about RA is just here-say spread by their enemies attempting to find an excuse for their total failure. I have yet to see a "logoffski" and I fly around with some RA pilots quite a bit in the South. And again, here we are with the "knowledge" of GoonSwarm! Bookmarks in our shuttles? I'd love to see this, I really would: it would make me fall on the floor and laugh my ass off that it actually happens in this game. Man I would LOVE to see that actually.
Mihailo Great GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.07.23 00:36:00 - [909] Originally by: Civrax Bookmarks in our shuttles? I'd love to see this, I really would: it would make me fall on the floor and laugh my ass off that it actually happens in this game. Man I would LOVE to see that actually. The only time a shuttle holding a plethora of bookmarks was discovered was with a BOB shuttle, and BOB defended that it was an inactive member who moved all of his stuff [through a battlefield] I'm sure I could find the post and bring back some discussion about BOB lag tactics if you want me to The only lag tactic Goons have been accused is bringing in numbers, failling to notice that it just means we more people want to be a part of our alliance than yours. Rookie ships can still tackle, and keeps ennemy support busy killing ships that cost us practically nothing. Let's not forget that it was a WANG newbie that uncloaked shrike's titan, else there would be no bob titan kill. You think we're going to stop? Keep dreaming.
Sextus Licinius Caldari Wreckless Abandon Triumvirate.	Posted - 2007.07.23 01:26:00 - [910] I fully endorse this product. There's nothing like a huge bite of your own medicine "He who makes a beast of himself gets rid of the pain of being a man"
Wigglytuff Vale Heavy Industries Molotov Coalition	Posted - 2007.07.23 02:51:00 - [911] Originally by: Marodi Alivar I'd rather see RA, who has more or less played the game fairly I can recall when the 8/10 bug was all over the forums, several RA members kept posting how they had known about it for months and since nothing had been done to fix it, they believed the bugged overseers were ok. No, RA have not played the game 'more or less fairly'. Those plexes gave them far more game-shaping power than the handful of T2 BPOs BoB had from T20, the only reason BoB's case was such an uproar is due to a dev being involved. Now maybe RA didn't exploit those plexes, but lets be honest, there weren't RA members in the 8/10 systems 24/7 just because of the pretty backdrops. Belt piracy isnt what it used to be.
Wigglytuff Vale Heavy Industries Molotov Coalition	Posted - 2007.07.23 02:51:00 - [912] Originally by: Marodi Alivar I'd rather see RA, who has more or less played the game fairly I can recall when the 8/10 bug was all over the forums, several RA members kept posting how they had known about it for months and since nothing had been done to fix it, they believed the bugged overseers were ok. No, RA have not played the game 'more or less fairly'. Those plexes gave them far more game-shaping power than the handful of T2 BPOs BoB had from T20, the only reason BoB's case was such an uproar is due to a dev being involved. Now maybe RA didn't exploit those plexes, but lets be honest, there weren't RA members in the 8/10 systems 24/7 just because of the pretty backdrops. Belt piracy isnt what it used to be.
Plim Gallente Celestial Apocalypse Insurgency	Posted - 2007.07.23 02:54:00 - [913] So have they fixed those bugged trade routes that BoB were funding titans with yet? Rudolf: "I was sworn to absolute secrecy by Santa Claus."
Plim Gallente Celestial Apocalypse Insurgency	Posted - 2007.07.23 02:54:00 - [914] So have they fixed those bugged trade routes that BoB were funding titans with yet? Rudolf: "I was sworn to absolute secrecy by Santa Claus."
With JudgeReinhold Gallente Legal Team	Posted - 2007.07.23 02:57:00 - [915] Originally by: Wigglytuff Originally by: Marodi Alivar I'd rather see RA, who has more or less played the game fairly I can recall when the 8/10 bug was all over the forums, several RA members kept posting how they had known about it for months and since nothing had been done to fix it, they believed the bugged overseers were ok. No, RA have not played the game 'more or less fairly'. Those plexes gave them far more game-shaping power than the handful of T2 BPOs BoB had from T20, the only reason BoB's case was such an uproar is due to a dev being involved. Now maybe RA didn't exploit those plexes, but lets be honest, there weren't RA members in the 8/10 systems 24/7 just because of the pretty backdrops. Good thing there has never been a large number of bugged complexes in BoB territory that they have exploited then Quote: If I had the inclination to type out the examples of teamwork and brotherhood displayed by Evolutions members and our brothers in BOB during the last 48 hours I would, but to be honest, none of
With JudgeReinhold Gallente Legal Team	Posted - 2007.07.23 02:57:00 - [916] Originally by: Wigglytuff Originally by: Marodi Alivar I'd rather see RA, who has more or less played the game fairly I can recall when the 8/10 bug was all over the forums, several RA members kept posting how they had known about it for months and since nothing had been done to fix it, they believed the bugged overseers were ok. No, RA have not played the game 'more or less fairly'. Those plexes gave them far more game-shaping power than the handful of T2 BPOs BoB had from T20, the only reason BoB's case was such an uproar is due to a dev being involved. Now maybe RA didn't exploit those plexes, but lets be honest, there weren't RA members in the 8/10 systems 24/7 just because of the pretty backdrops. Good thing there has never been a large number of bugged complexes in BoB territory that they have exploited then Quote: If I had the inclination to type out the examples of teamwork and brotherhood displayed by Evolutions members and our brothers in BOB during the last 48 hours I would, but to be honest, none of
Elmicker The Phoenix Rising FreeFall Securities	Posted - 2007.07.23 03:23:00 - [917] Originally by: With JudgeReinhold Good thing there has never been a large number of bugged complexes in BoB territory that they have exploited then Those plexes were reported and immediately removed - a substantial loss to BoB's income. They were also making a tiny, tiny fraction of what the 8/10s were making. Oh, and to those of you with short memories, you can add to the months-long farming of the 8/10s the use of carriers and exhumers as bottomless haulers and constant use of co-ordinatated logons and logoffs. Quote: So have they fixed those bugged trade routes that BoB were funding titans with yet? Those trade routes are not bugged, they work as intended. A little overpowered with the introduction of the titans, maybe, but not bugged. They were also not funding titans with them, they probably just covered the weekly fuel bill. IIRC - it would take 5-6 months of running those routes to pay for a titan.
General Xenophon Caldari Infinite Improbability Inc Mostly Harmless	Posted - 2007.07.23 03:35:00 - [918] I hate Band of Brothers, but I think the corp theft thing is terrible. And to everyone gloating over this theft, remember this can happen to anyone. Realize the months, and maybe years, of work that can be destroyed to lame tactics like this. Honorless and pathetic. Even though BoB used similar underhanded methods to kill D2's titan, I am still angry at the idea of corp theft. Simply appalling. You cannot fight something evil by being evil yourself and expect to be any 'better' than what you are fighting. You just become worse, if not the same as the evil thing to begin with. -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= "Now, we must all fear evil men. But there is another kind of evil which we must fear most, and that is the indifference of good men." - Boondock Saints
Andrea Jaruwalski Caldari Angel Deep Corporation	Posted - 2007.07.23 03:53:00 - [919] Edited by: Andrea Jaruwalski on 23/07/2007 03:53:04 Originally by: Plim So have they fixed those bugged trade routes that BoB were funding titans with yet? Judging by the usual course of action by other game developing companies. The development and support team usually do not feel the need in fixing a problem which isn't there. Shame, you almost make it sound so believable too.
Etto Neppeo ENACO	Posted - 2007.07.23 04:19:00 - [920] Originally by: Alias11 Originally by: Etto Neppeo Originally by: Flinx Evenstar You watch too much X-files no just a critical view and common sense - relatively rare things nowadays. You should probably slit your wrists with occam's razor it is not conspiracy theory as you intend to picture it as. conspiracy theorists usually involve lots of people acting in coordination up to the point where 1/2 of world being involded. in such cases yes, occam razor has some work to do. in this particular case however, only few people needed to act and no one had to lie. someone from high command to give FL the roles, FL to take stuff, someone to report him to the GM (which needs not to be involved) and that is it. add a few hinting posts on boards and it's done and done. no need for global conspiracy here. it all comes to believing only one man - the FL himself. yes he told the truth about initial steal. but then what happened? why did it happen? we don't know - have to guess. no one from bob would even tell us if the stuff were returned. most people think he kept the stuff, and will at somepoint sell or use it, or just leave it lying there forever. but it is only the assumptions which you might make if you wanted and which is based on nothing except for stereotypical image of some random thief... oh well believe in what you want to, I don't care.
Stahlregen GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.07.23 05:15:00 - [921] Originally by: Elmicker Originally by: With JudgeReinhold Good thing there has never been a large number of bugged complexes in BoB territory that they have exploited then Those plexes were reported and immediately removed - a substantial loss to BoB's income. They were also making a tiny, tiny fraction of what the 8/10s were making. Oh, and to those of you with short memories, you can add to the months-long farming of the 8/10s the use of carriers and exhumers as bottomless haulers and constant use of co-ordinatated logons and logoffs. Quote: So have they fixed those bugged trade routes that BoB were funding titans with yet? Those trade routes are not bugged, they work as intended. A little overpowered with the introduction of the titans, maybe, but not bugged. They were also not funding titans with them, they probably just covered the weekly fuel bill. IIRC - it would take 5-6 months of running those routes to pay for a titan. Yeah but here you think log on traps and using exhumers and carriers as haulers is exploiting which is so painfully stupid that you disqualify yourself from ever having a valid point in regards to arguing game mechanics. Oh yeah, And BoB did not report the bugged complexes immediately, they were there for god knows how long until a FIX member blew the whistle on them. But hey, Let's just talk **** some people will be dumb enough to believe it right?
ED 209 Old Detroit Crime Syndicate	Posted - 2007.07.23 05:17:00 - [922] Originally by: Stahlregen just talk **** some people will be dumb enough to believe it right? spoken like a true SA koolaid drinker.
ED 209 Old Detroit Crime Syndicate	Posted - 2007.07.23 05:18:00 - [923] Originally by: Plim So have they fixed those bugged trade routes that BoB were funding titans with yet? lol?
Relaria Hossin GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.07.23 05:24:00 - [924] Originally by: Wigglytuff Originally by: Marodi Alivar I'd rather see RA, who has more or less played the game fairly I can recall when the 8/10 bug was all over the forums, several RA members kept posting how they had known about it for months and since nothing had been done to fix it, they believed the bugged overseers were ok. No, RA have not played the game 'more or less fairly'. Those plexes gave them far more game-shaping power than the handful of T2 BPOs BoB had from T20, the only reason BoB's case was such an uproar is due to a dev being involved. Now maybe RA didn't exploit those plexes, but lets be honest, there weren't RA members in the 8/10 systems 24/7 just because of the pretty backdrops. BoB had the exact same situation with complexes in their space and went so far as to tell everyone they were bugged in a way that caused them to drop no loot, when in reality they respawned MUCH faster than they were supposed to. (2 hours? I don't recall exactly) It only came to light when RA started running the complexes and a FIX member posted about the bug on the forum. Good timing with that one right?
Beyond Horizon Black Omega Security	Posted - 2007.07.23 05:30:00 - [925] Edited by: Beyond Horizon on 23/07/2007 05:30:42 Originally by: Wigglytuff Originally by: Marodi Alivar I'd rather see RA, who has more or less played the game fairly I can recall when the 8/10 bug was all over the forums, several RA members kept posting how they had known about it for months and since nothing had been done to fix it, they believed the bugged overseers were ok. No, RA have not played the game 'more or less fairly'. Those plexes gave them far more game-shaping power than the handful of T2 BPOs BoB had from T20, the only reason BoB's case was such an uproar is due to a dev being involved. Now maybe RA didn't exploit those plexes, but lets be honest, there weren't RA members in the 8/10 systems 24/7 just because of the pretty backdrops. You get a A+ for twisting the truth, as I was there on TS when it was said I will spell it out for you just because I feel nice today: The plexes were petitioned as bugged, the GMs then answered that it was NOTHING wrong with them and the farming commenced, so shut up troll and crawl back in your cave. - BH
ED 209 Old Detroit Crime Syndicate	Posted - 2007.07.23 05:46:00 - [926] Originally by: Beyond Horizon Edited by: Beyond Horizon on 23/07/2007 05:30:42 Originally by: Wigglytuff Originally by: Marodi Alivar I'd rather see RA, who has more or less played the game fairly I can recall when the 8/10 bug was all over the forums, several RA members kept posting how they had known about it for months and since nothing had been done to fix it, they believed the bugged overseers were ok. No, RA have not played the game 'more or less fairly'. Those plexes gave them far more game-shaping power than the handful of T2 BPOs BoB had from T20, the only reason BoB's case was such an uproar is due to a dev being involved. Now maybe RA didn't exploit those plexes, but lets be honest, there weren't RA members in the 8/10 systems 24/7 just because of the pretty backdrops. You get a A+ for twisting the truth, as I was there on TS when it was said I will spell it out for you just because I feel nice today: The plexes were petitioned as bugged, the GMs then answered that it was NOTHING wrong with them and the farming commenced, so shut up troll and crawl back in your cave. Your nose is looking quite long.
Mud Pandemonium Minmatar Umbra Congregatio Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2007.07.23 05:50:00 - [927] Someone take this thread out behind the woodshed and shoot it. Annihilation, Obliteration Pulses in these veins
Bonessa Kuat Drive Yards	Posted - 2007.07.23 05:53:00 - [928] Originally by: Mud Pandemonium Someone take this thread out behind the woodshed and shoot it. \ like old yeller :D guys we shouldn't argue about this stuff, coz its in the past. let us look for a brighter future in teh worldo f EVE ONLIE
Mud Pandemonium Minmatar Umbra Congregatio Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2007.07.23 05:55:00 - [929] Originally by: Bonessa Originally by: Mud Pandemonium Someone take this thread out behind the woodshed and shoot it. \ like old yeller :D guys we shouldn't argue about this stuff, coz its in the past. let us look for a brighter future in teh worldo f EVE ONLIE Erm, perhaps replace "thread" with "Bonessa" in my previous statement. Annihilation, Obliteration Pulses in these veins
Bonessa Kuat Drive Yards	Posted - 2007.07.23 05:56:00 - [930] Originally by: Mud Pandemonium Originally by: Bonessa Originally by: Mud Pandemonium Someone take this thread out behind the woodshed and shoot it. \ like old yeller :D guys we shouldn't argue about this stuff, coz its in the past. let us look for a brighter future in teh worldo f EVE ONLIE Sir that is quite unkind and somewhat prejudiced of u, i think you should reconsider the ramifications of the route you are going down Erm, perhaps replace "thread" with "Bonessa" in my previous statement.
Marcus Ailichi Lonely Maple Prospecting Group	Posted - 2007.07.23 06:13:00 - [931] 1. Whats this "t20" thing evryone keeps referring to every once in a while? 2. I'm not going to read all 31 pages so has any pix / other epicness been posted?

Ivan Kirilenkov Forum Moderator Interstellar Services Department	Posted - 2007.07.23 06:26:00 - [932] I think it's safe to say that this thread has run it's course, and will therefore be locked. forum rules \| [email protected] \| Our Website


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