tl;dr of the rant when I heard about this.

I don't care about the new one, I want the old one. Give me an option to keep the old one, and I'll be happy. You know, because this supposed new one is all about choice? How about giving people the CHOICE to keep the old, working one.

I don't care about 'prettifying' the damn game, the old NeoCom worked fine, without any problems. All I can see you doing is screwing it up, removing options that were once easily accessible and doing it the name of "Oh but it'll look so PRETTY!!!11 Who cares about doing extra clicks to find what used to be one click, it's PRETTY!!!"

The argument here is that when you open up a window that is not already pinned to the Neocom, the toggle close functionality can become very annoying. If you for example want to keep an agent mission window open for the duration of a mission, you could quite easily close the window by accident with the toggle close functionality, but with toggle minimize you won't lose the window as easily through clumsy clicking. Also, for windows that are already pinned to the Neocom, you don't really care too much if the window is closed or minimized, as long as it pops in your face when you click the button. This also results in the nice side effect that windows generally take much less time to maximize than to open. As with all new functionality, this will of course take a little bit of getting used to.

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I don't care about the new one, I want the old one. Give me an option to keep the old one, and I'll be happy. You know, because this supposed new one is all about choice? How about giving people the CHOICE to keep the old, working one.

I don't care about 'prettifying' the damn game, the old NeoCom worked fine, without any problems. All I can see you doing is screwing it up, removing options that were once easily accessible and doing it the name of "Oh but it'll look so PRETTY!!!11 Who cares about doing extra clicks to find what used to be one click, it's PRETTY!!!"

Who moved my cheeeeese!?

But, for the love of internet spaceships, why, oh WHY can't I resize windows to any size I want? Some windows, like People & Places and Science & Industry won't let me make them smaller and waste a LOT of valuable screen space. With the PIanets tab open on the Science & Industry window, 4/5 of the window is empty, yet I can't just shorten it up to just the small size I want it to be. A long time ago I used to be able to make the People & Places window very short to show just a few bookmarks, now I either have to leave the giant thing open all the time or keep toggling it. Each window should be possible to shorten almost all the way to the titlebar, or at least to the minimum height the scrollbar can be.

And my number one nitpicking gripe about UI... STOP CHANGING MY CAMERA VIEW! Why oh WHY does my camera get reset on every jump? I go to the trouble to zoom to the distance and angle that I want, NOTHING should ever change that but ME! If I want to be zoomed out to 100k and angled up a certain way, I shouldn't have to re-zoom and move my view every time I jump. JUST LEAVE MY CAMERA VIEW ALONE!

WTB a neocom that is LONG enough to support > 20 people in local.....

This !

There's a ton of things that need to be fixed and you, CCP, can't thing to anything else than messing with the neocom. Seriously !

And, please, enough of this mac/windows 3D-like style with transparency effects everywhere. If I wanted to see that all day long, I'd play to minesweeper, not to eve.

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Erik

This!

Good grief Charlie Brown, let me resize a window to what I want - add scrollbars if you have to, or just leave the functionality I can't see hidden.

And yes please, remember the zoom level and camera angle I set in the previous system or last time I was undocked. How hard is that?

And while you're at it, please find the mystery UI settings bug that always either disables my overlay or closes my scan window every session change. It never fails, my client gets into one mode or the other no matter how often I clear the cache and windows locations. Either the scanner window closes itself when I dock / undock every time, or the range circle overlay thing disappears every system jump (despite the button itself still being highlighted blue, requiring 2 clicks to turn it off and on again)

The argument here is that when you open up a window that is not already pinned to the Neocom, the toggle close functionality can become very annoying. If you for example want to keep an agent mission window open for the duration of a mission, you could quite easily close the window by accident with the toggle close functionality, but with toggle minimize you won't lose the window as easily through clumsy clicking. Also, for windows that are already pinned to the Neocom, you don't really care too much if the window is closed or minimized, as long as it pops in your face when you click the button. This also results in the nice side effect that windows generally take much less time to maximize than to open. As with all new functionality, this will of course take a little bit of getting used to.

Devs have a long history of really really sucking at what counts as "better."

For me, the worst part about the old new neocom, and the horizontal alignment, was that you have 30 different windows that look like [?]. Like some dev is saying "I don't even know what the f*ck this window is!" Just like the ctrl-tab window became useless when it was switched to icons, you're making the minimized windows equally useless. Your design is bad and you should feel bad. You're admitting to "selling out" to "awesum". Remember how big a flop it was last time that happened?

This is totally premature. The EVE UI sucks noodles. A very small portion of it is in how you access it. How you access any particular window or tool in the game is a matter of memorizing where it is located. Now you're throwing away the millions of man-hours put into memorization, and you're making it harder for vets to tell rookies "oh, to access your fitting in space you need to hit the fitting button on the neocom, 3rd button down." All this does is turn a huge shithole of a UI into a swirling shithole of a UI. Sorry, but this sounds like change for the sake of change, where not only does nothing get better, it actually gets worse.

It's called iterative and incremental development.
They do more small changes, instead of a big, fat (and bug prone) change.
You have a working vertical Neocom. You'll have a slightly better vertical Neocom. In the next iteration, you'll gain the ability to make it horizontal, etc.
Believe me, iterative development works (I use it in Graphic and Web Design a lot).

i suppose que blue bar at the bottom of the avatar is the active skill ?
i hope we can desactivate it ; i really hate things that move on my interface.
if this thing flash i'm gonna kill someone.