Originally by: Silence Duegood

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Originally by: Dramaticus

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I can taste your tears and they are delicious.

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I think your tasting the Goon tears shed in this thread, since you all publicly begged and you've been outright denied.

Kudos to CCP for not caving in to a group of players with a history of DOS attacks, forum trolling, and admitted dedication to an attempt at ruining the games that they frequent.

But please, do not let my infrequent posts interrupt more begging or crying from Goons.

Please, carry on.

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Originally by: CCP PrismX

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I personally have no problem per say with a few other persisting wreck-monuments in my DB but we can't really automate a unique description for all of them.

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Originally by: Silence Duegood

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Originally by: Dramaticus

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Please, carry on.

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So I still dont see why we cant get a wreck monument or something. I dont see how its so hard to keep a Titan wreck as a monument and what troubles it would cause.

This isnt just about our titan kill, this is about all titan kills. I think a titan kill is a huge achievement and should be recognized. Hell, if BoB killed our own titan I'm all for the wreck being there for people to remember.

Space is vast and there is room enough for objects such as these. Maybe if a wreck were to interfere with a gate or station, it could be moved somewhere else on the grid where it doesnt cause any trouble.

I think monuments such as these would add flavor to our game and a sense of history/accomplishment that others can look on as a testament to past battles.

Oh, and about the automation of deploying these to the DB, how about the desription be written by the CEO of the corp who killed it. It would have to be sent to CCP in an e-mail or something and reviewed then finalized.




"Hope is a waking dream" ~Aristotle

Originally by: CCP Prism X

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And here we have Aduna proving exactly why this decision was arrived on.
We persisted the first titan to go down. No other titans will ever be persisted regardless of their owner and/or aggressor. If we were to persist yours as well we can no longer cite this rule as we'd already have gone behind our words. Look up 'the slippery slope' argument and you might understand what I'm on about... or you can cling to your tinfoil-hattery. Whatever floats your boat.

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Originally by: CCP Sharkbait

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another problem i see is that titans might not be as rare as planned, i can already see 50 vs 50 titan fights happening. thats alot of wrecks left in space, altho it would look cool tbh having a titan battle field full of wrecks. but i know it would result in me having to clean it up

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Originally by: Goumindong

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Originally by: CCP Sharkbait

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another problem i see is that titans might not be as rare as planned, i can already see 50 vs 50 titan fights happening. thats alot of wrecks left in space, altho it would look cool tbh having a titan battle field full of wrecks. but i know it would result in me having to clean it up

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Desipite the ridiculousness that is a 50 v 50 titan fight. I would think that if there ever were a 50 v 50 titan fight that left titan wrecks, i would certianly want there to be a monument for a fight composed of not less than 7 trillion isk worth of ships and modules.

What is the GNP of eve again? In june of 06 it was about 11 trillion isk/year.

If we quadrupule that you are still talking about 1/8th of the production of an entire year of eve in one battle.

To get a grip on just how big that is. The current subscribe base is what 180k people? So 1/8th is about 16,000 peoples entire production in eve in one battle.[As of last year, that number would actualy be the entire production of 114k people each year.

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Originally by: SpaceMoose

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Congrats, you just managed to successfully confirm the perceived bias CCP maintains.
Like we ever expected to get the titan wreck in the first place, CCP are far too predictable to think they could ever make a level headed and fair decision. I guess we'll just have to take our satisfaction knowing that we killed off your e-bff alliance.

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Originally by: CCP Sharkbait

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just these 3 examples will cause extra work for the GM's because of the petitions and me because i would end up having to login and remove them. it would also upset some people because the titan they just killed had it's wreck removed. or people who lost there titan had the wreck removed.

there could be a code change to get round all of these problems but that requires some design then coding and tbh there is much more important things that need addressing.

another problem i see is that titans might not be as rare as planned, i can already see 50 vs 50 titan fights happening. thats alot of wrecks left in space, altho it would look cool tbh having a titan battle field full of wrecks. but i know it would result in me having to clean it up

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Originally by: James 315

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Goon logistics may have the most efficient manner of griefing BoB that there is:every Goon tower in a BoB system is a punch in BoB's stomach and a middle finger to Dianabolic's crew

Originally by: Aduna

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Originally by: CCP Sharkbait

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just these 3 examples will cause extra work for the GM's because of the petitions and me because i would end up having to login and remove them. it would also upset some people because the titan they just killed had it's wreck removed. or people who lost there titan had the wreck removed.

there could be a code change to get round all of these problems but that requires some design then coding and tbh there is much more important things that need addressing.

another problem i see is that titans might not be as rare as planned, i can already see 50 vs 50 titan fights happening. thats alot of wrecks left in space, altho it would look cool tbh having a titan battle field full of wrecks. but i know it would result in me having to clean it up

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so let me see if i get this straight: you don't want to do your job that CCP is paying presumably very well for because it relates to you having to do your job that would assist Goonswarm. do your bosses know about this? i thought that the devs had no favorites or hatred, or that they were allowed to do so. or was i wrong about that assumption?

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Originally by: Aduna

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so let me see if i get this straight: you don't want to do your job that CCP is paying presumably very well for because it relates to you having to do your job that would assist Goonswarm. do your bosses know about this? i thought that the devs had no favorites or hatred, or that they were allowed to do so. or was i wrong about that assumption?

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Originally by: Tevlent

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Edited by: Tevlent on 21/08/2007 00:08:38
Edited by: Tevlent on 21/08/2007 00:07:53

Aduna shut up.

Lets keep on the straight and narrow about this topic.

Sharkbaits last comment was about wrecks being in the way.

I am fine with the wreck not being DIRECLY where the titan died. Certainly grids are large enough to place the wreck somewhere else still in visable range to where they would not be in the way of someone. So would this be a viable option if a wreck were to be in the way of a gate or station.

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Originally by: James 315

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Goon logistics may have the most efficient manner of griefing BoB that there is:every Goon tower in a BoB system is a punch in BoB's stomach and a middle finger to Dianabolic's crew

Originally by: Tevlent

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Edited by: Tevlent on 21/08/2007 00:08:38
Edited by: Tevlent on 21/08/2007 00:07:53

Originally by: Aduna

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so let me see if i get this straight: you don't want to do your job that CCP is paying presumably very well for because it relates to you having to do your job that would assist Goonswarm. do your bosses know about this? i thought that the devs had no favorites or hatred, or that they were allowed to do so. or was i wrong about that assumption?

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Aduna shut up.

Lets keep on the straight and narrow about this topic.

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Originally by: I'm Spying

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Originally by: Elmicker

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Originally by: Shenko Minara

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Shrike's was the first Titan down in a legitimate battle. Killed by struggling pilots against a struggling foe, not popped due to an abuse of game mechanics.

Seems like an historical event to me. vv

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Actually, Cyvok's titan was downed perfectly legitimately. Cyvok aggressed, then logged off before the timer ran out. He was then probed, and popped. Any illegitimacy in the destruction of the titan stems from cyvok, if anyone.

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actually, cyvok logged off, then bob shot a wreck from cyvok and that allowed him to be re-aggressed. If you paid attention, back then shooting wrecks of logged off pilots will re-agress them and bring their ship back into space. And if you know your history, the very next patch removed that bug/explot or what ever you want to call it

kkthxbye

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Originally by: peth4x

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"*counts goon posts . . . you guys need the morale boost that bad?. oh and whaaa whaaaa we attacked ccp ,tried to discredit them and ruin their buisness, now they won't give us new shiny things whaaaa whaaa

edit: oh wait I forgot. . .It was a holiday weekend that the threadnaught was scheduled for. . ..so ccp wasn't at thier computers so it don't count :)"

QFT

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Originally by: peth4x

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lol you guys are so incompetent...who cares what you want tbh.... I have never seen you on sisi and only ever seen a couple goons there . ..What do you do for anyone where they owe you something ?? ? Further , I could understand someone wanting a titan wreck monument if they killed one .. ..so where is the RA post squad...all i see is tons of goons . . ....cuz goons only caused lag that day...you guys suxor and have turned the forums and eve into World of Warcraft...congrats

"Seriously peth4x, your attemps at trolling are feeble agasint goons, dont even try."

should I just repost the same thing thousands of times until its true ???

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Originally by: Major Stallion

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lets see, even if your accusations did hold some water...after the DDoS attack conducted and the false allegations of dev involvement with BoB, would you as a developer of the game be so inclined to assist people who are interested in nothing less than defaming a MMO company?

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Originally by: Altrex

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Conclusive proof ladies and gentlemen that WoW kills brain cells.

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Originally by: Orangir

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Edited by: Orangir on 21/08/2007 01:51:42

Originally by: Major Stallion

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lets see, even if your accusations did hold some water...after the DDoS attack conducted and the false allegations of dev involvement with BoB, would you as a developer of the game be so inclined to assist people who are interested in nothing less than defaming a MMO company?

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The forums were never DDoSed and I doubt you even know what a DDoS attack is if you think the threadnought was one.

That said, Aduna you're a dumbass stop posting thanks in advance.

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