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Etheral Queen
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Posted - 2007.08.14 10:23:00 -
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Edited by: Etheral Queen on 14/08/2007 10:23:56
So i just cancelled my WoW account and resubbed to EvE for a month and i'm regretting it already. as much as i love the idea behind eve i just find it too slow paced and unresponsive i spend most of my time watching a screen that is mostly black.
if i compare WoW to EvE it would be like in WoW you have to take the Windrider/Gryphon to go anywhere, whati mean is you click i want to go here then spend 10 minutes watching your character do something, its unresponsive, if i had freedom of movement in eve it would make it so much better. to me it seems like jumpgates/auto pilot are the biggest mistake made for eve it takes so long to do a quest.
to give you an idea i started worlds collide about 45mins ago, since then i've watched an episode of mind of mencia and browsed the web for chinese food recipes...who would have thought im playing a game? can't wait for a new sci-fi mmo to come out, one where i actually get to control my character instead of f1-f7/watch tv.
and no, you can't have my faction fitted/tech2 cnr 
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SiJira
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Posted - 2007.08.14 10:25:00 -
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you are not fun
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Tivookz
Caldari
The Singularity Amalgamation
Pure.
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Posted - 2007.08.14 10:26:00 -
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Buh-bye now.
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MaxSkywalker
x13
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Posted - 2007.08.14 10:26:00 -
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Wanna borrow my flame suit? You'll need it!
MaxSkywalker
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rig0r
0utbreak
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Posted - 2007.08.14 10:28:00 -
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I see your whine and raise you a buhuhu
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Sir Scorpion
Black Banners
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Posted - 2007.08.14 10:28:00 -
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 Originally by: MaxSkywalker
Wanna borrow my flame suit? You'll need it!
lol..
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mechtech
Entropy Industries
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Posted - 2007.08.14 10:28:00 -
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I think that without 0.0, politics, and "playing for a greater corp oriented goal", it's just not fun.
You should give pvp a try before you leave, join a corp that fits your style.
Eve wasn't designed as a PVE game, they stated it repeatedly while it was being developed.
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Jim McGregor
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Posted - 2007.08.14 10:30:00 -
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Originally by: Etheral Queen
and no, you can't have my faction fitted/tech2 cnr
Oh the irony. A mission runner complaining about Eve not being fun... a big DOH comes to mind. :) Missions are not the game, they are just a way to make isk.
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Originally by: CCP Wrangler
You're not supposed to feel like you're logging in to a happy, happy, fluffy, fluffy lala land filled with fun and adventures, thats what hello kitty online is for.
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Sister Aika
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Posted - 2007.08.14 10:31:00 -
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Nobody asked to get his stuff yet ?
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Sir Scorpion
Black Banners
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Posted - 2007.08.14 10:33:00 -
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Originally by: Sister Aika
Nobody asked to get his stuff yet ?
hes one month old...he says he has a CNR faction fitted.
maybe i have to make a new account seems now that new players get CNR insted of ibiss
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Etheral Queen
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Posted - 2007.08.14 10:34:00 -
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doesn't anyone think the game would be better if it was just one giant map and you controlled your ship and went wherever you wanted to go?
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Venec
Rave Technologies Inc.
Fallen Souls
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Posted - 2007.08.14 10:35:00 -
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Oh... hello there troll o/
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Etheral Queen
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Posted - 2007.08.14 10:36:00 -
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Originally by: Sir Scorpion
Originally by: Sister Aika
Nobody asked to get his stuff yet ?
hes one month old...he says he has a CNR faction fitted.
maybe i have to make a new account seems now that new players get CNR insted of ibiss
lol, started my character in 2006.
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Jim McGregor
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Posted - 2007.08.14 10:37:00 -
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Originally by: Etheral Queen
doesn't anyone think the game would be better if it was just one giant map and you controlled your ship and went wherever you wanted to go?
Umm no. 
Listen... Eve is not like WoW in space, with quests. The game is built on the foundations of intergalactic conquest. Think of it as a 3D strategy game, not capture the flag.
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Originally by: CCP Wrangler
You're not supposed to feel like you're logging in to a happy, happy, fluffy, fluffy lala land filled with fun and adventures, thats what hello kitty online is for.
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Essque
Starlancers
Insurgency
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Posted - 2007.08.14 10:38:00 -
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Originally by: Etheral Queen
doesn't anyone think the game would be better if it was just one giant map and you controlled your ship and went wherever you wanted to go?
The EVE I play works exactly like that... 
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Etheral Queen
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Posted - 2007.08.14 10:38:00 -
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it's funny how many of you pop into my topic which in my opinion was well written and had a point concerning a game i've tried to like and enjoyed the concept then reply with one liners and call me a troll.
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Jim McGregor
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Posted - 2007.08.14 10:39:00 -
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Edited by: Jim McGregor on 14/08/2007 10:39:38
Originally by: Essque
Originally by: Etheral Queen
doesn't anyone think the game would be better if it was just one giant map and you controlled your ship and went wherever you wanted to go?
The EVE I play works exactly like that...
He means point and click a solar system to get there right away. Like with the flying gryphons (is that spelled right?) in WoW that takes you across several areas.
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Originally by: CCP Wrangler
You're not supposed to feel like you're logging in to a happy, happy, fluffy, fluffy lala land filled with fun and adventures, thats what hello kitty online is for.
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Etheral Queen
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Posted - 2007.08.14 10:40:00 -
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Edited by: Etheral Queen on 14/08/2007 10:40:52
Originally by: Essque
Originally by: Etheral Queen
doesn't anyone think the game would be better if it was just one giant map and you controlled your ship and went wherever you wanted to go?
The EVE I play works exactly like that...
it doesn't though, in any other mmo, i can run around i'm free to move, moving doesnt involve pressing one button and coming back 5 minutes later and being where i want to go.
/edit, yes jim i mean exactly like that, in wow the gryphon is the most boring part of the game and to me, autopilot/travelling in EvE is exactly the same, except i have to do that to go everywhere.
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Jim McGregor
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Posted - 2007.08.14 10:41:00 -
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Originally by: Etheral Queen
it doesn't though, in any other mmo, i can run around i'm free to move, moving doesnt involve pressing one button and coming back 5 minutes later and being where i want to go.
No, in WoW you have to keep your button pressed to walk, thats true. :)
Eve is not the perfect game for questing, WoW is. So why are you playing this one? 
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Originally by: CCP Wrangler
You're not supposed to feel like you're logging in to a happy, happy, fluffy, fluffy lala land filled with fun and adventures, thats what hello kitty online is for.
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DarthMopp
Gallente
I.O.S. - I.D.I.O.T.s in outer Space
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Posted - 2007.08.14 10:41:00 -
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Edited by: DarthMopp on 14/08/2007 10:44:09
Quote:
to give you an idea i started worlds collide about 45mins ago, since then i've watched an episode of mind of mencia and browsed the web for chinese food recipes...
What the hell are you doing since then ? Fleeing from the pirates ? Kill em all, get your reward and then off to the jungle !
Well...at least i could also fly worlds collide, while watching a whole episode of Home Improvement and browsing the web for the biggest bo.obies....BUT...chance are high i will find myself in the egg after that...
At least i must say that EvE is everything but boring. Normally if i do have a few jumps to go i don¦t use Autopilot (which actually is a modern form of suicide) and while in-warp i study the market, chat with other folks in the corpchannel or i do something else. There are always things to explore.
I guess you just cannot compare EvE to WoW.....
So my last suggestion may be : Take it or leave it 
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Venec
Rave Technologies Inc.
Fallen Souls
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Posted - 2007.08.14 10:43:00 -
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Quote:
doesn't anyone think the game would be better if it was just one giant map and you controlled your ship and went wherever you wanted to go?
Yep, no trolling here.
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ry ry
StateCorp
The State
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Posted - 2007.08.14 10:44:00 -
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he's right though. for the most part eve isn't fun.
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RaTTuS
BIG
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Posted - 2007.08.14 10:44:00 -
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Aha Jump Clones,
though you are limited to 1 jump / 24 hours.
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Taipan Gedscho
Muzzletov Gewaltski Inc.
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Posted - 2007.08.14 10:45:00 -
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Originally by: Etheral Queen
So i just cancelled my WoW account and resubbed to EvE for a month and i'm regretting it already.
strange... i felt the same, when i cancelled my eve sub and tried wow.
i felt the urge to pry my eyes out after 3 days (first two were just normally painful)
sooooo... maybe eve is just the wrong game for you?
you dont see me trolling the wow boards, do you? that is because i came back to the game i like, after i grasped the hated game in all its crappyness.
and i dont even ask "can i have ur stuff" coz its... tempted by your wowliness.
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Lemptie
Gallente
Glass House
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Posted - 2007.08.14 10:45:00 -
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Join a corp, or make a amarr toon ,then those missions are a bit harder.
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Balthasar Moreq
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Posted - 2007.08.14 10:47:00 -
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Originally by: Venec
Quote:
doesn't anyone think the game would be better if it was just one giant map and you controlled your ship and went wherever you wanted to go?
Yep, no trolling here.
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Etheral Queen
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Posted - 2007.08.14 10:47:00 -
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you missed my point, i left wow to come back to the game i like... i keep coming back to EvE on and off since i started but as much as i like the idea i cant get into it, it takes to long to get things done and never feel like im actually doing anything.
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Jim McGregor
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Posted - 2007.08.14 10:49:00 -
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Originally by: Etheral Queen
you missed my point, i left wow to come back to the game i like... i keep coming back to EvE on and off since i started but as much as i like the idea i cant get into it, it takes to long to get things done and never feel like im actually doing anything.
Missions are boring. Try to join a 0.0 corp, get friends, work together, and you'll like the game. Its my gut feeling that almost everybody who quits and comes back all the time are just doing their stupid missions all day long, totally missing out on the multiplayer part of the game.
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Originally by: CCP Wrangler
You're not supposed to feel like you're logging in to a happy, happy, fluffy, fluffy lala land filled with fun and adventures, thats what hello kitty online is for.
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Sir Scorpion
Black Banners
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Posted - 2007.08.14 10:50:00 -
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Originally by: Etheral Queen
you missed my point, i left wow to come back to the game i like... i keep coming back to EvE on and off since i started but as much as i like the idea i cant get into it, it takes to long to get things done and never feel like im actually doing anything.
Then go to 0.0, o some plexes, PVP and what not, hell go to low sec and I will come over and see how well ur faction fitted CNR tankà.if u want just for fun, I promise I will come alone
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Balthasar Moreq
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Posted - 2007.08.14 10:51:00 -
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Edited by: Balthasar Moreq on 14/08/2007 10:51:52
Join a corp/help n00bs/gank n00bs/PvP/Trade etc....there is plenty to do in EVE. Hell i log on sometimes and even though i don't have time to play i chat in corp/local and/or TS to whoever is around (you would be suprised how chatty MMo's players are...seeing as they are starved of human company in their moms basement).
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Taipan Gedscho
Muzzletov Gewaltski Inc.
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Posted - 2007.08.14 10:52:00 -
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Originally by: Etheral Queen
... it takes to long to get things done and never feel like im actually doing anything.
and that is worse than actually having to farm the same stupid mob a gazillion times over and over again, while completing braindead quests, just to get to a part of the game, where it might be fun?
Only you can save mmorpgs - Stop crying for nerfs today! |
Sinder Ohm
Infinite Improbability Inc
Mostly Harmless
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Posted - 2007.08.14 11:01:00 -
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If you are looking for fun dont bother doing missions or mining for that matter.
The true meaning of fun in EVE is usually blowing the bejesus out of your enemies in the great wars that we constantly wage.
Missioning and mining != fun, ratting in 0.0 is at least semi fun cos you never know what is going to happend next.
Originally by: Rawne Karrde
PVP in EvE is consentual, you agree to it when you login. If you don't like it you're in the wrong game.
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Lord Zoran
Caldari
House of Tempers
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Posted - 2007.08.14 11:04:00 -
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only thing that has made eve less enjoyable for me is there is a lot more mini fleet ganks in low sec now 
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Gariuys
Evil Strangers Inc.
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Posted - 2007.08.14 11:07:00 -
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If your idea of fun is button smashing, then no, eve is not fun. But there's 12 million MMOs that have button smashing, to kill the ebil bunnies of doom in their thousands, we really don't need that here.
Unless guristas = ebil bounnies of doom, then we need it...
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AuroraStar
Gallente
RennTech
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Posted - 2007.08.14 11:07:00 -
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Originally by: Taipan Gedscho
Originally by: Etheral Queen
... it takes to long to get things done and never feel like im actually doing anything.
and that is worse than actually having to farm the same stupid mob a gazillion times over and over again, while completing braindead quests, just to get to a part of the game, where it might be fun?
Unfortunatly youve just described EVE to.
Replace mob with asteroid, npc pirate and braindead quest with mission. Any mmo is going to be grindy, its how they ensure you play for longer and hence pay for longer. Eve while not as grindy "Level" wise still requires you to grind for isk. Cant have fun in eve with no isks.
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Gariuys
Evil Strangers Inc.
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Posted - 2007.08.14 11:10:00 -
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EVE definetly doesn't require you to grind for isk. There's a ton of options to make isk, and several include grind like activities, that's true. But there's other ways to make your isk.
And, and that's quite important IMHO, you really don't need that much isk, to have a helluvalot of fun playing this game. If you can shake the mindset that more expensive = better.
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Theo Samaritan
Gallente
Galactic Savings and Investments
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Posted - 2007.08.14 11:15:00 -
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Isk is not needed for fun in this game, i have my best fun in my million-isk frigate than anything else i own, INCLUDING the full T2 navy megathron.
EVE is not wow, it should never even be compared, nothing should ever be mixed between the two. Ever.
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Aussie Storm
Amarr
Cskillzone
DAMAGE INC...
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Posted - 2007.08.14 11:15:00 -
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Originally by: Etheral Queen
Edited by: Etheral Queen on 14/08/2007 10:23:56
So i just cancelled my WoW account and resubbed to EvE for a month and i'm regretting it already. as much as i love the idea behind eve i just find it too slow paced and unresponsive i spend most of my time watching a screen that is mostly black.
if i compare WoW to EvE it would be like in WoW you have to take the Windrider/Gryphon to go anywhere, whati mean is you click i want to go here then spend 10 minutes watching your character do something, its unresponsive, if i had freedom of movement in eve it would make it so much better. to me it seems like jumpgates/auto pilot are the biggest mistake made for eve it takes so long to do a quest.
to give you an idea i started worlds collide about 45mins ago, since then i've watched an episode of mind of mencia and browsed the web for chinese food recipes...who would have thought im playing a game? can't wait for a new sci-fi mmo to come out, one where i actually get to control my character instead of f1-f7/watch tv.
and no, you can't have my faction fitted/tech2 cnr
Go back to WoW, anybody who plays WoW and enjoys running around as a fairy boy isnt going to get EVE, no matter how long you play it, as is evident in your post, have a nice day
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ry ry
StateCorp
The State
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Posted - 2007.08.14 11:17:00 -
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Edited by: ry ry on 14/08/2007 11:17:49
Originally by: Taipan Gedscho
Originally by: Etheral Queen
... it takes to long to get things done and never feel like im actually doing anything.
and that is worse than actually having to farm the same stupid mob a gazillion times over and over again, while completing braindead quests, just to get to a part of the game, where it might be fun?
Like grinding faction standings for epic items in wow you mean?
in other news, i've spent the past couple of days running level one missions to get my standing up with a corp because i want their LP rewards. This was a fresh and exciting experience that in no way mirrors some of the most maligned features of WoW.
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Zolipara
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Posted - 2007.08.14 11:19:00 -
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I've just started EVE again too after a long time in WOW. You cant compare the two games as they are completely different.
In wow you grind mobs for rep/gold/items so you can do PVE raids. PVE raids are wow's primary content and it does that much better than EVE. The pvp in wow is a joke, and there is very little point in the mmo part except for the raids.
In eve you mine/trade/mission for isk so you can get involved in pvp, corpwars etc. The politics, wars etc is the primary content of EVE. Its built around player-player interaction where wow is mainly PVE.
The basic grinding in both games are not so fun. The only difference is that in wow you mash 2 buttons while fighting, but in eve you dont have to mash the buttons as much.
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Taipan Gedscho
Muzzletov Gewaltski Inc.
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Posted - 2007.08.14 11:20:00 -
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Edited by: Taipan Gedscho on 14/08/2007 11:25:19
Originally by: ry ry
Like grinding faction standings for epic items in wow you mean?
in other news, i've spent the past couple of days running level one missions to get my standing up with a corp because i want their LP rewards. This was a fresh and exciting experience that in no way mirrors some of the most maligned features of WoW.
touchT... but you got FoFs and Drones for that 
so its in fact not THAT bad.
AND:
you could also pay a lvl4 runner to share his standing gain with you,
so actually there is a difference (admittetly it has been introduced only shortly ago)
so... what was the grind again?
edit: on top of that in wow you dont have a friggin choice other than not play it...
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AuroraStar
Gallente
RennTech
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Posted - 2007.08.14 11:28:00 -
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Edited by: AuroraStar on 14/08/2007 11:34:58
Originally by: Taipan Gedscho
Edited by: Taipan Gedscho on 14/08/2007 11:25:19
Originally by: ry ry
Like grinding faction standings for epic items in wow you mean?
in other news, i've spent the past couple of days running level one missions to get my standing up with a corp because i want their LP rewards. This was a fresh and exciting experience that in no way mirrors some of the most maligned features of WoW.
touchT... but you got FoFs and Drones for that
so its in fact not THAT bad.
AND:
you could also pay a lvl4 runner to share his standing gain with you,
so actually there is a difference (admittetly it has been introduced only shortly ago)
so... what was the grind again?
edit: on top of that in wow you dont have a friggin choice other than not play it...
Yea but to PAY the lvl 4 mission runner to share it you need isk... which you then have to grind for. You can't just login as a newb and start playing the market, you need a decent cash base for that which is gotten... grinding.
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Aziz Hekato
Minmatar
Hekato-Matari Syndicate
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Posted - 2007.08.14 11:28:00 -
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Edited by: Aziz Hekato on 14/08/2007 11:28:50
Well if you want to compare WoW with EVE;
WoW sucks and is for ugly people.
EVE is great and for the beautiful people.
People that plays EVE, and WoW during downtimes are in the middle.
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Carniflex
Caldari
Fallout Research
Fallout Project
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Posted - 2007.08.14 11:31:00 -
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Can I have your stuff. kthnx and bye.
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Etheral Queen
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Posted - 2007.08.14 11:38:00 -
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Originally by: Zolipara
I've just started EVE again too after a long time in WOW. You cant compare the two games as they are completely different.
In wow you grind mobs for rep/gold/items so you can do PVE raids. PVE raids are wow's primary content and it does that much better than EVE. The pvp in wow is a joke, and there is very little point in the mmo part except for the raids.
In eve you mine/trade/mission for isk so you can get involved in pvp, corpwars etc. The politics, wars etc is the primary content of EVE. Its built around player-player interaction where wow is mainly PVE.
The basic grinding in both games are not so fun. The only difference is that in wow you mash 2 buttons while fighting, but in eve you dont have to mash the buttons as much.
actually in wow i had atleast 20 different keybinds it was far from a 2 button game the only grinding i did was to get the little gold i needed to pvp, i got all my gear through pvp the only grinding i did was 1-70 (took me maybe 6-8 weeks) and whatever little bit i needed for repairs.
in eve the grinding i do is missions, to afford to be able to pvp but i dont "have" to do anything to advance in EvE, thats my whole point, you autopilot where you want to go, you autopilot your skills, most of eve for me is just waiting for something, i just think if they could make it so you could actually explore it would be better that is my only gripe, i can't actually go where i want to go.
in EvE there are 6 "zones" i can think of jumpgate, asteroid belt, station, plex, moon and pos, wanna know how many places i can pvp in wow? i can pvp anywhere all i need is someone to fight and i think eve would be better with thousands of people all on the same "zone" with the ability to go wherever they please not just autopilot to one of 6 set destinations.
/shrug
what do i know i used to play wow im a noob.
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Moe Sczyzlak
Caldari
Destructive Influence
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Posted - 2007.08.14 11:38:00 -
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Originally by: mechtech
I think that without 0.0, politics, and "playing for a greater corp oriented goal", it's just not fun.
You should give pvp a try before you leave, join a corp that fits your style.
Eve wasn't designed as a PVE game, they stated it repeatedly while it was being developed.
What he said ^
I will not go on a "carebear-rant" since I have no problem with the concept of PVE. In WoW PVE beats PVP. But PVE-ing in EVE just isn't fun. (<--a matter of opinion, obviously, but that's my opinion) :)
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Taipan Gedscho
Muzzletov Gewaltski Inc.
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Posted - 2007.08.14 11:43:00 -
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Edited by: Taipan Gedscho on 14/08/2007 11:43:38
Originally by: AuroraStar
Yea but to PAY the lvl 4 mission runner to share it you need isk... which you then have to grind for. You can't just login as a newb and start playing the market, you need a decent cash base for that which is gotten... grinding.
id share my standing gain with new pilots for free, if they just tag along and salvage for me. they get half of the bounties, too!
and im not the only one who does this.
and something else:
if you dont know what you WANT to do, you wont have fun. (probably :D you still can get lucky=)
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Curzon Dax
Deep Core Mining Inc.
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Posted - 2007.08.14 11:47:00 -
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My advice:
Put together a 120 person corp, assemble them based on the type of ship they fly, then assemble massive 40 person fleets.
Then take those fleets into your mission.
You'll feel a bit more at home. :)
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AuroraStar
Gallente
RennTech
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Posted - 2007.08.14 11:49:00 -
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Edited by: AuroraStar on 14/08/2007 11:49:50
Originally by: Taipan Gedscho
Edited by: Taipan Gedscho on 14/08/2007 11:43:38
Originally by: AuroraStar
Yea but to PAY the lvl 4 mission runner to share it you need isk... which you then have to grind for. You can't just login as a newb and start playing the market, you need a decent cash base for that which is gotten... grinding.
id share my standing gain with new pilots for free, if they just tag along and salvage for me. they get half of the bounties, too!
and im not the only one who does this.
and something else:
if you dont know what you WANT to do, you wont have fun. (probably :D you still can get lucky=)
I do bit of this bit of that... that I feel is the way to keep eve fun - bit of mining, bit of ratting, bit of mission running, bit of pvp, bit of playing the market.
You are right - running missions 24/7 isnt required to play eve. But the way the tutorial is setup - it gives new players the idea that missions are the main part of the game. My sister just got an account - she thought missions were the main part of the game due to the tutorial missions.
I explained otherwise, but shes having fun running them so meh. And they are reasonably fun the first few times. But really the only non grinding way to get money is playing the market - even salvaging is grinding of a sort. Grinding in this case meaning repative, time consuming play.
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Iron Jaw
The Forsakened Companions
Storm Armada
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Posted - 2007.08.14 11:52:00 -
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Edited by: Iron Jaw on 14/08/2007 11:53:08
Eve is a game with endless opertunitys and a million things to train up and do.
Not our fault if your not imagnative enough to find somthing you'll find fun.
IJ
P.S WoW sucks.
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heheheh
Singularity.
Fallen Souls
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Posted - 2007.08.14 11:53:00 -
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its a PVP game numbskull.
Missions ARE boring as hell.
Go to low sec or 0.0 and then tell me its slow pace.
I hate it when people like you post crap and youve not yet made any effort to improve your experience.
Go back to wow i suggest, your guildmates need you to boost them through DM.
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Taipan Gedscho
Muzzletov Gewaltski Inc.
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Posted - 2007.08.14 11:54:00 -
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Originally by: AuroraStar
But really the only non grinding way to get money is playing the market - even salvaging is grinding of a sort. Grinding in this case meaning repative, time consuming play.
get a t1 frig, train propulsion jamming, and learn to work the scanner.
probably the least profitable way of making isk, especially if you dont know the ropes, but for sure the least grinding way.
rifter + mods around 500k
one looted strip miner how much?
right.
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Sariyah
Gallente
HUN Corp.
HUN Reloaded
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Posted - 2007.08.14 11:54:00 -
[53]
Originally by: heheheh
Go back to wow i suggest, your guildmates need you to boost them through DM.
Why the hatred? You seem to know the game pretty well, too...
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Banana Torres
The Green Banana Corporation
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Posted - 2007.08.14 11:55:00 -
[54]
Eve may not be fun, but trolling the forums sure is.
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Etheral Queen
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Posted - 2007.08.14 11:56:00 -
[55]
Originally by: heheheh
its a PVP game numbskull.
Missions ARE boring as hell.
Go to low sec or 0.0 and then tell me its slow pace.
I hate it when people like you post crap and youve not yet made any effort to improve your experience.
Go back to wow i suggest, your guildmates need you to boost them through DM.
i hate it when people like you post crap and you dont know anything about what i have and have not done in eve.
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Elmicker
The Phoenix Rising
FreeFall Securities
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Posted - 2007.08.14 12:02:00 -
[56]
Originally by: Etheral Queen
no you dont, you autopilot to one of 6 preset destinations. no scenerey, no stop off's you are at one place and you arrive at another some time later. you are all focusing on some other negative aspect of my post when all i really want is freedom to travel where ever i want in EvE.
Wow. Get out and play the game....
protip: empire sucks, gtfo.
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AuroraStar
Gallente
RennTech
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Posted - 2007.08.14 12:05:00 -
[57]
Originally by: Taipan Gedscho
Originally by: AuroraStar
But really the only non grinding way to get money is playing the market - even salvaging is grinding of a sort. Grinding in this case meaning repative, time consuming play.
get a t1 frig, train propulsion jamming, and learn to work the scanner.
probably the least profitable way of making isk, especially if you dont know the ropes, but for sure the least grinding way.
rifter + mods around 500k
one looted strip miner how much?
right.
So a brand new player with a whole 3000 isk can just buy a 400k frig, insurance and fittings, skills to fly it and use said fittings?
Some type of grinding is required.
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Zolipara
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Posted - 2007.08.14 12:05:00 -
[58]
Ok so basically EVE is boring because of the lack of scenery?
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Laura Steel
Minmatar
Independent Interspace Industiers
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Posted - 2007.08.14 12:05:00 -
[59]
I enjoy doing level 4 missions with a couple of corp mates over vent ^_^
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Venec
Rave Technologies Inc.
Fallen Souls
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Posted - 2007.08.14 12:05:00 -
[60]
Join up with 0.0 corp
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Taipan Gedscho
Muzzletov Gewaltski Inc.
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Posted - 2007.08.14 12:07:00 -
[61]
Edited by: Taipan Gedscho on 14/08/2007 12:07:49
Originally by: AuroraStar
Originally by: Taipan Gedscho
Originally by: AuroraStar
But really the only non grinding way to get money is playing the market - even salvaging is grinding of a sort. Grinding in this case meaning repative, time consuming play.
get a t1 frig, train propulsion jamming, and learn to work the scanner.
probably the least profitable way of making isk, especially if you dont know the ropes, but for sure the least grinding way.
rifter + mods around 500k
one looted strip miner how much?
right.
So a brand new player with a whole 3000 isk can just buy a 400k frig, insurance and fittings, skills to fly it and use said fittings?
Some type of grinding is required.
now youre bein freaky stubborn, and you should know it.
if you join the game as a young pilot, you should be doing the tutorial, else you will just be getting on everybodies nerves more than necessary.
if you complete the tut these days, (which wasnt even grinding for me, as i redid them to have a look) you have enough resources to get you started.
on top of that, if you shoot ONE friggin lowsec rat in a breacher (you get from the tut) you prolly have enuff to finance a rifter plus fittings too.
if that is grinding to you already... well.. im not sure if you should play mmorpgs.
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Siren Call
Dragon Highlords
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Posted - 2007.08.14 12:07:00 -
[62]
i think the first line of your post says it all, you obviously enjoy a game where doing quests for reaching a pointless lvl cap is your thing, rather than actually playing a game which has meaning, try talking to some people and pvping...
i played WoW for a week then cancelled subscription and through the box in the bin
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heheheh
Singularity.
Fallen Souls
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Posted - 2007.08.14 12:08:00 -
[63]
Originally by: Etheral Queen
Edited by: Etheral Queen on 14/08/2007 12:02:48
In EVE you fly around in empty space.
no you dont, you autopilot to one of 6 preset destinations. no scenerey, no stop off's you are at one place and you arrive at another some time later. you are all focusing on some other negative aspect of my post when all i really want is freedom to travel where ever i want in EvE.
and to the poster above me, atleast my "negative crap" was centered around a game and a way it could be improved (in my opinion) and not some hatred towards another person
ok,
Have you ever double clicked in space or gone anywhere not on auto pilot ?
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Etheral Queen
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Posted - 2007.08.14 12:09:00 -
[64]
Originally by: Zolipara
Ok so basically EVE is boring because of the lack of scenery?
in a sense yes but if you read what i wrote you would understand i would like more places to go not just scenery, why instead of right click > warp to moon 6 cant i check my map make sure im heading the right direction and just fly to the moon and maybe on my map i could see other players in the vicinity and chase them down?
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heheheh
Singularity.
Fallen Souls
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Posted - 2007.08.14 12:10:00 -
[65]
Originally by: AuroraStar
Originally by: Taipan Gedscho
Originally by: AuroraStar
But really the only non grinding way to get money is playing the market - even salvaging is grinding of a sort. Grinding in this case meaning repative, time consuming play.
get a t1 frig, train propulsion jamming, and learn to work the scanner.
probably the least profitable way of making isk, especially if you dont know the ropes, but for sure the least grinding way.
rifter + mods around 500k
one looted strip miner how much?
right.
So a brand new player with a whole 3000 isk can just buy a 400k frig, insurance and fittings, skills to fly it and use said fittings?
Some type of grinding is required.
no one needs to grind EVER if they dont want to and you can still make BILLIONS of ISK.
use your loaf.
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d026
THE LEGION OF STEEL WARRIORS....
R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2007.08.14 12:10:00 -
[66]
Originally by: Aziz Hekato
Edited by: Aziz Hekato on 14/08/2007 11:28:50
Well if you want to compare WoW with EVE;
WoW sucks and is for ugly people.
EVE is great and for the beautiful people.
People that plays EVE, and WoW during downtimes are in the middle.
during downtime i play with quickfit:)
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Franga
Caldari
NQX Innovations
Southern Cross Alliance
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Posted - 2007.08.14 12:10:00 -
[67]
Hey, Etheral Queen ... shutup.
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Etheral Queen
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Posted - 2007.08.14 12:13:00 -
[68]
Edited by: Etheral Queen on 14/08/2007 12:13:35
ok,
Have you ever double clicked in space or gone anywhere not on auto pilot ?
yes, and what was there? nothing. it takes forever and noone is there because the only places to go are jumpgate>pos>station>moon>asteroid belt trying to fly to anyone of these at 160ms is dumb considereing anyone i might want to fight effectively instantly travels from one to the other.
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Etheral Queen
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Posted - 2007.08.14 12:15:00 -
[69]
Originally by: Franga
Hey, Etheral Queen ... shutup.
god forbid someone have an opinion on a way they think the game could be improved.
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Taipan Gedscho
Muzzletov Gewaltski Inc.
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Posted - 2007.08.14 12:18:00 -
[70]
Originally by: Etheral Queen
god forbid someone have an opinion on a way they think the game could be improved.
iirc you havent posted any useful ideas on how to improve eve, but if you do, and its good, it will be prolly happily accepted (might want to post with another char in another thread tho )
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Aira Phlux
Furian Technologies
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Posted - 2007.08.14 12:18:00 -
[71]
Eve mimics real life - not the magical kingdom where you re-spawn with your sword still in your hand. Stuff gets shot and stuff breaks - its harsh compared to other games but then isn't life harsh?
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Etheral Queen
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Posted - 2007.08.14 12:21:00 -
[72]
Originally by: Taipan Gedscho
Originally by: Etheral Queen
god forbid someone have an opinion on a way they think the game could be improved.
iirc you havent posted any useful ideas on how to improve eve, but if you do, and its good, it will be prolly happily accepted (might want to post with another char in another thread tho )
perhaps you should learn to read, i stated in the very first post how i thought eve is too slow paced and that i disliked the autopilot from point a>b some people even agreed with me.
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Taipan Gedscho
Muzzletov Gewaltski Inc.
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Posted - 2007.08.14 12:22:00 -
[73]
still it wasnt a good idea
so stop insulting me with that learn to read crap. i read the whole darn thread.
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Franga
Caldari
NQX Innovations
Southern Cross Alliance
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Posted - 2007.08.14 12:23:00 -
[74]
If you've got an opinion on how you think the game could be improved, go and post in the ideas and development forum. And don't post in the form of a 'whine' ...
"I just did this and it sucked and you suck and the game sucks and I have no idea how to do anything without AP on and this new Chinese recipe I just found sucks'
You're not original to post a whine about how you don't like the game in General discussion and you won't be the last person to think that they are by doing so. Like I said, shutup.
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Etheral Queen
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Posted - 2007.08.14 12:23:00 -
[75]
Originally by: Taipan Gedscho
still it wasnt a good idea
so stop insulting me with that learn to read crap. i read the whole darn thread.
so first you say i didn't make any suggestions then you say i did but it wasnt very good....maybe you should learn to read.
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max bygraves
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Posted - 2007.08.14 12:24:00 -
[76]
Originally by: Etheral Queen
Originally by: Taipan Gedscho
Originally by: Etheral Queen
god forbid someone have an opinion on a way they think the game could be improved.
iirc you havent posted any useful ideas on how to improve eve, but if you do, and its good, it will be prolly happily accepted (might want to post with another char in another thread tho )
perhaps you should learn to read, i stated in the very first post how i thought eve is too slow paced and that i disliked the autopilot from point a>b some people even agreed with me.
Perhaps you should learn to comprehend what you are writing?
Crying about the speed of the game is not a suggestion of how to improve it now is it ?
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Taipan Gedscho
Muzzletov Gewaltski Inc.
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Posted - 2007.08.14 12:24:00 -
[77]
OH.. AND.... we have this new thing, its great,
its called "Warp to zero"
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Elmicker
The Phoenix Rising
FreeFall Securities
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Posted - 2007.08.14 12:24:00 -
[78]
Originally by: Etheral Queen
[i disliked the autopilot from point a>b some people even agreed with me.
Have you tried not using autopilot?
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Etheral Queen
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Posted - 2007.08.14 12:32:00 -
[79]
Edited by: Etheral Queen on 14/08/2007 12:33:17
Edited by: Etheral Queen on 14/08/2007 12:32:22
Originally by: Franga
Where in your post original post did you say something needed to be improved? As far as I can read, you whined. However, I'm willing to accept correction. Just point it out.
if i had freedom of movement in eve it would make it so much better (this was in my original post, if you care to read and interpret it you would understand what i was saying even if it was in a long winded post i was merely pointing that i think freedom of movement instead of autopilot would be better)
i.e if i could fly from the station to the stargate of my own accord moving anywhere i want and perhaps encounter other players at locations other than jumpgate>moon>pos>asteroid belt> etc.
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Twilight Moon
Minmatar
Malicious Intentions
Cult of War
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Posted - 2007.08.14 12:34:00 -
[80]
Originally by: Etheral Queen
i.e if i could fly from the station to the stargate of my own accord moving anywhere i want and perhaps encounter other players at locations other than jumpgate>moon>pos>asteroid belt> etc.
that sounds suspiciously like a way of nerfing piracy to me...
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Kimiko Kurosawa
The Krugerrand Groupies
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Posted - 2007.08.14 12:34:00 -
[81]
Edited by: Kimiko Kurosawa on 14/08/2007 12:34:24
Originally by: Etheral Queen
Originally by: Franga
Where in your post original post did you say something needed to be improved? As far as I can read, you whined. However, I'm willing to accept correction. Just point it out.
if i had freedom of movement in eve it would make it so much better
i.e if i could fly from the station to the stargate of my own accord moving anywhere i want and perhaps encounter other players at locations other than jumpgate>moon>pos>asteroid belt> etc.
Good god that would be boring. That would be like trying to find someone who is safespotted but without using probes. You would never see another soul!
Edit: typo
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Taipan Gedscho
Muzzletov Gewaltski Inc.
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Posted - 2007.08.14 12:34:00 -
[82]
Edited by: Taipan Gedscho on 14/08/2007 12:34:52
Originally by: Etheral Queen
... perhaps encounter other players at locations other than jumpgate>moon>pos>asteroid belt> etc.
we have this astonishing invention called "scan probes"
on another note:
maybe you will like eve more when we get to walk around in stations?
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Franga
Caldari
NQX Innovations
Southern Cross Alliance
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Posted - 2007.08.14 12:35:00 -
[83]
There is complete freedom of movement in EVE. If you wish to fly from a station to a gate, be my guest.
And yes, putting in stargates and general areas of congregation is just wrong. How dare they do what we do in real life by making areas that are important or have some sort of significance. Such foolishness.
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Some Caldari
Caldari
Perkone
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Posted - 2007.08.14 12:35:00 -
[84]
Sorry to hear that you don't like the game although missions are purely to get money for PvP. Although EvE always is somewhat slow and hard to get in to.
I tried WoW before I got my full EvE account however I hated the game but love EvE so I guess each to their own, no one can really say either game is bad. WoW has a stupid amount of members while EvE has a fiercely loyal player base so the 2 games must be doing something right.
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heheheh
Singularity.
Fallen Souls
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Posted - 2007.08.14 12:38:00 -
[85]
There is complete freedom of movement in eve,
It just takes along time,
The eve universe is a tad bigger than azeroth.
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Xtreem
Gallente
Naughty 40
Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2007.08.14 12:40:00 -
[86]
i got upto lvl 40 in WoW i think (never stopped with eve in that time)
and it was fine for a while, getting cool stuff, and i must admit i used to have a good laugh, /dance with someone, they would /dance back, then id /fart still makes me chuckle.
But with WoW npc is the game, and u go against other players with no loss, no gain, no loot!! and the NPC were annoying and the quests long and annoying.
So Eve was back in the front seat again, then WoW got its sub cut and still think it was 100% the right call.
my very roundabout point is, i did not post on the WoW forums saying it was a huge grind, dull etc etc why do it here to a forum of people that obviously DO find it fun? seems stupid to me tbh!
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Theo Samaritan
Gallente
Galactic Savings and Investments
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Posted - 2007.08.14 12:40:00 -
[87]
Originally by: Etheral Queen
in EvE there are 6 "zones" i can think of jumpgate, asteroid belt, station, plex, moon and pos, wanna know how many places i can pvp in wow? i can pvp anywhere all i need is someone to fight and i think eve would be better with thousands of people all on the same "zone" with the ability to go wherever they please not just autopilot to one of 6 set destinations.
There are infact 8 if you're gonna take things THAT literal, you missed out deepspace and the Star's.
but none of us take it like that.
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Etheral Queen
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Posted - 2007.08.14 12:40:00 -
[88]
Originally by: Franga
There is complete freedom of movement in EVE. If you wish to fly from a station to a gate, be my guest.
And yes, putting in stargates and general areas of congregation is just wrong. How dare they do what we do in real life by making areas that are important or have some sort of significance. Such foolishness.
yes there is complete freedom of movement except you never meet anybody inbetween the places of congregation eve is massive, except you never visit most of it, you just warp from one end to the other leaving 99% of it unseen, like my orignal analogy of comparing it to the windriders/gryphon in wow it would be like all wow pvp occuring at the windrider/gryphon or boats.
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Etheral Queen
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Posted - 2007.08.14 12:41:00 -
[89]
Edited by: Etheral Queen on 14/08/2007 12:41:29
double post
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Etheral Queen
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Posted - 2007.08.14 12:45:00 -
[90]
Originally by: Xtreem
i got upto lvl 40 in WoW i think (never stopped with eve in that time)
and it was fine for a while, getting cool stuff, and i must admit i used to have a good laugh, /dance with someone, they would /dance back, then id /fart still makes me chuckle.
But with WoW npc is the game, and u go against other players with no loss, no gain, no loot!! and the NPC were annoying and the quests long and annoying.
So Eve was back in the front seat again, then WoW got its sub cut and still think it was 100% the right call.
my very roundabout point is, i did not post on the WoW forums saying it was a huge grind, dull etc etc why do it here to a forum of people that obviously DO find it fun? seems stupid to me tbh!
i never said it was a huge grind, i only said the method of travel was dull and that it could be more fun.
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An Anarchyyt
Gallente
Federal Navy Academy
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Posted - 2007.08.14 12:47:00 -
[91]
Space... is big. Really big. You just won't believe how vastly hugely mindboggingly big it is...
You might think it's a long way down the street to the CHemist, but that's just peanuts to space.
Originally by: CCP Wrangler
Second, a gentile is a non jewish person
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DarthMopp
Gallente
I.O.S. - I.D.I.O.T.s in outer Space
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Posted - 2007.08.14 12:52:00 -
[92]
Quote:
yes there is complete freedom of movement except you never meet anybody inbetween the places of congregation eve is massive, except you never visit most of it, you just warp from one end to the other leaving 99% of it unseen, like my orignal analogy of comparing it to the windriders/gryphon in wow it would be like all wow pvp occuring at the windrider/gryphon or boats.
It may surprise you but space is mostly filled with "absolutely nothing". So if they would remove all that warpdrive/Jumpgate stuff while simulating a "real" universe you wouldnt see anyone of the x-thousand subsribers at all...even if you would play eve for 10 Years. Now thats what i call boring !
AT least they had to find some way to get the gamers in touch with several "hot-spots". Imagine a new player in the midst of nowhere in his noob frigate..."HELLOOO ??? HEEELLLOOOO ???----crap game...going back to Battlefield2"
:D
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Digital Solaris
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Posted - 2007.08.14 12:54:00 -
[93]
You have pointed out that you find EVE to be a disappointing experience now. Which is perfectly fine.
Here is what puzzles me, why continue to point out what disappoints you about the game when people actually encourages you to go back to WoW yet you do not. You, in fact, continue to whine what you do not like about the game.
So here's my question to you. I quote you on this as well:
Originally by: Etheral Queen
So i just cancelled my WoW account
If WoW is superior in your eyes, why cancel your account in the first place?
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heheheh
Singularity.
Fallen Souls
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Posted - 2007.08.14 12:55:00 -
[94]
Originally by: An Anarchyyt
Space... is big. Really big. You just won't believe how vastly hugely mindboggingly big it is...
You might think it's a long way down the street to the CHemist, but that's just peanuts to space.
Quote of the day.
Dont panic.
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RaTTuS
BIG
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Posted - 2007.08.14 12:55:00 -
[95]
Originally by: AuroraStar
Originally by: Taipan Gedscho
Originally by: AuroraStar
But really the only non grinding way to get money is playing the market - even salvaging is grinding of a sort. Grinding in this case meaning repative, time consuming play.
get a t1 frig, train propulsion jamming, and learn to work the scanner.
probably the least profitable way of making isk, especially if you dont know the ropes, but for sure the least grinding way.
rifter + mods around 500k
one looted strip miner how much?
right.
So a brand new player with a whole 3000 isk can just buy a 400k frig, insurance and fittings, skills to fly it and use said fittings?
Some type of grinding is required.
No - but a noob gets to do run the starter missions - will get 600k couple of implants , some mods and a couple of ships - then they can start worry about the missions being boring
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Harisdrop
Gallente
Omega Enterprises
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Posted - 2007.08.14 12:57:00 -
[96]
I hope you enjoy your next game. EVE is not for the easy street. Everyone will die. Everyone will loose isk.
If you dont you are not playing EVE but a sidenote of my game and you dont exist.
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Etheral Queen
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Posted - 2007.08.14 12:58:00 -
[97]
Originally by: DarthMopp
Quote:
yes there is complete freedom of movement except you never meet anybody inbetween the places of congregation eve is massive, except you never visit most of it, you just warp from one end to the other leaving 99% of it unseen, like my orignal analogy of comparing it to the windriders/gryphon in wow it would be like all wow pvp occuring at the windrider/gryphon or boats.
It may surprise you but space is mostly filled with "absolutely nothing". So if they would remove all that warpdrive/Jumpgate stuff while simulating a "real" universe you wouldnt see anyone of the x-thousand subsribers at all...even if you would play eve for 10 Years. Now thats what i call boring !
AT least they had to find some way to get the gamers in touch with several "hot-spots". Imagine a new player in the midst of nowhere in his noob frigate..."HELLOOO ??? HEEELLLOOOO ???----crap game...going back to Battlefield2"
:D
the hotspots would still be there, except you could be anywhere in system and get there within a reasonable amount of time, perhaps even have some kind of i dont know lets call it "radar" to show players within a set distance so you could chase them down or something.
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Etheral Queen
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Posted - 2007.08.14 12:59:00 -
[98]
Originally by: Digital Solaris
You have pointed out that you find EVE to be a disappointing experience now. Which is perfectly fine.
Here is what puzzles me, why continue to point out what disappoints you about the game when people actually encourages you to go back to WoW yet you do not. You, in fact, continue to whine what you do not like about the game.
So here's my question to you. I quote you on this as well:
Originally by: Etheral Queen
So i just cancelled my WoW account
If WoW is superior in your eyes, why cancel your account in the first place?
i think you missed the part where i cancelled my EvE account and came back, if i went back to the game i liked i came back to EvE.
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Etheral Queen
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Posted - 2007.08.14 12:59:00 -
[99]
Edited by: Etheral Queen on 14/08/2007 12:59:44
double post again
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Elmicker
The Phoenix Rising
FreeFall Securities
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Posted - 2007.08.14 13:03:00 -
[100]
Originally by: Etheral Queen
perhaps even have some kind of i dont know lets call it "radar" ...
Dear lord, you're stupid.
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An Anarchyyt
Gallente
Federal Navy Academy
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Posted - 2007.08.14 13:04:00 -
[101]
Just the other day I walked 83 million miles in 15 minutes. I don't see why I can't do that in Eve. Seriously.
Originally by: CCP Wrangler
Second, a gentile is a non jewish person
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Etheral Queen
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Posted - 2007.08.14 13:05:00 -
[102]
Originally by: Elmicker
Originally by: Etheral Queen
perhaps even have some kind of i dont know lets call it "radar" ...
Dear lord, you're stupid.
care to explain why? or do you just randomly insult people?
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Taipan Gedscho
Muzzletov Gewaltski Inc.
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Posted - 2007.08.14 13:13:00 -
[103]
Edited by: Taipan Gedscho on 14/08/2007 13:14:33
Originally by: Etheral Queen
care to explain why? or do you just randomly insult people?
i think at this point we dont require any more explanation.
did you even take the effort of looking into the scan probes i mentioned?
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Etheral Queen
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Posted - 2007.08.14 13:15:00 -
[104]
Originally by: Taipan Gedscho
Originally by: Etheral Queen
care to explain why? or do you just randomly insult people?
i think at this point we dont require any more explanation.
and you've resorted to the same tactics as the last person i responded to.
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Kastar
Viziam
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Posted - 2007.08.14 13:16:00 -
[105]
Edited by: Kastar on 14/08/2007 13:20:46
Edited by: Kastar on 14/08/2007 13:18:21
Can you please tell me why you want per se to have the last word and tell every one that answers that they didn't get your message ?
Your OP is very one-sided and gives the impression of someone spilling the beans over something that he didn't even see 20% of.
EG. It's possible you have seen lowsec, but have you experienced lowsec ? tried to make a living there during a longer period of time. If eve is slowpaced for you, you have made the wrong friends and are sat in the wrong environment. It can be that the scenery is a bit dull when travelling, but that's not the point of Eve. Wow seems to be happy fairy land and I think that is supposed to be part of it's concept. It's pve. Eve is dark in multiple senses. I mean, you don't watch out for one tiny second, so you're beaten around in 17 ways instantly. Having a nice scenery is ver much besides the point of eve. It's tough, I don't want to experience though and fly by a flock of spacebunnies holding bright yellow sunflowers in their hands.
Your post was based around two premises that SEEM to imply you only saw a limited part of what's eve about. It's up to you to clarify that, not to the othere to hold back from answering to a very bad and onesided OP.
BTW, one final comment... I've read somewhere once that missions were specifically designed to pass time untill there were more corpmembers online so you could actually start doing sth constructive. Many/most see missions in this specific way. By admitting on doing the same missions all over you practically confirm on using a feature in a way it was not intended.
Missions were not designed to be fun, they're a means to an end, either as a passtime or a way to get isk.
Space is designed in a way, a dark impression of vastness, to create a certain athmosphere. If it were fun and joyful to fly through space I know at least I would be annoyed. Space like it is presented at least looks realistic, if you look beyond the spacecrafts piloted by human beings sat in a eggshaped pod full of goo.
This post became to long.
Can I have at least part of your stuff ?
One small edit:
You're obviously not enjoying Eve, more into that other thing. WTF are you still insisting on proving your point by constantly answering and trying to get your right. Step away from the komputarr, take a deeeeeeep breath, go kiss a girl* and then come back. (*boys allowed to, this is the 21st century  )
Why do people always have to go whaaaaaa I'm out because of this and that and try to convince the other 260K subscribers... Go, just go... no need to make a point.
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DarthMopp
Gallente
I.O.S. - I.D.I.O.T.s in outer Space
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Posted - 2007.08.14 13:18:00 -
[106]
Originally by: Etheral Queen
Originally by: DarthMopp
Quote:
yes there is complete freedom of movement except you never meet anybody inbetween the places of congregation eve is massive, except you never visit most of it, you just warp from one end to the other leaving 99% of it unseen, like my orignal analogy of comparing it to the windriders/gryphon in wow it would be like all wow pvp occuring at the windrider/gryphon or boats.
It may surprise you but space is mostly filled with "absolutely nothing". So if they would remove all that warpdrive/Jumpgate stuff while simulating a "real" universe you wouldnt see anyone of the x-thousand subsribers at all...even if you would play eve for 10 Years. Now thats what i call boring !
AT least they had to find some way to get the gamers in touch with several "hot-spots". Imagine a new player in the midst of nowhere in his noob frigate..."HELLOOO ??? HEEELLLOOOO ???----crap game...going back to Battlefield2"
:D
the hotspots would still be there, except you could be anywhere in system and get there within a reasonable amount of time, perhaps even have some kind of i dont know lets call it "radar" to show players within a set distance so you could chase them down or something.
Oh my...what you want is some fast paced kind of BattleArena added to the already existing EvE-System. Log in, check the radar and then start a killing spree. Well i just guess eve wasn¦t meant to be this way.
"oh, theres somebody flying at 2AU away from me.....i¦ll jump him and give him Hell"...
Hmm....i like the EvE-World as it is now. For me no need for adding some extra spice to the game. And...for the part of realism...it would take you a lifetime to even leave one Solar-System :
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Taipan Gedscho
Muzzletov Gewaltski Inc.
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Posted - 2007.08.14 13:21:00 -
[107]
Edited by: Taipan Gedscho on 14/08/2007 13:24:21
Originally by: Etheral Queen
and you've resorted to the same tactics as the last person i responded to.
look. at this point you just DO look like a stupid troll because of several reasons. that is not my fault, really.
read my post about the t1 frigs and the SCANNER ?
no i guess not. still you chose to go so far of saying i didnt give you any piece of advice about anything that could make eve more fun for you. along with telling me to read your stupid drivel, without even having read mine.
dont try to argue on that, you just prove in several posts that you didnt, and any arguing on that would make you look even more stupid. ("if there was some sort of radar"... sheesh )
i really dont enjoy calling complete strangers stupid, i dont even know why i get worked up over you. right, i remember. because people like you remind me of how the world is run these days.
in a rather ignorant way.
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Etheral Queen
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Posted - 2007.08.14 13:25:00 -
[108]
i dont want the "last word" this is a discussion forum, i said something and now we're discussing it.
i've been to low sec, i've been to 0.0 its all the same, you still find the same things in the same places, just right click and they're all there handily waiting for you to fly to. when i asked for "scenery" i wasn't asking for fluffy bunnies and space fairy's.
i just imagine EvE as so much more than it is now, with each system buzzing with people all over at random places just waiting for me to fly by and discover them instead of all clustered around a few specific places, true most systems would be empty but systems with specific resources would have more people and if they were more mobile and not limited to a few set locations i think it would be more fun.
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Etheral Queen
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Posted - 2007.08.14 13:27:00 -
[109]
Originally by: Taipan Gedscho
Edited by: Taipan Gedscho on 14/08/2007 13:24:21
Originally by: Etheral Queen
and you've resorted to the same tactics as the last person i responded to.
look. at this point you just DO look like a stupid troll because of several reasons. that is not my fault, really.
read my post about the t1 frigs and the SCANNER ?
no i guess not. still you chose to go so far of saying i didnt give you any piece of advice about anything that could make eve more fun for you. along with telling me to read your stupid drivel, without even having read mine.
dont try to argue on that, you just prove in several posts that you didnt, and any arguing on that would make you look even more stupid. ("if there was some sort of radar"... sheesh )
i really dont enjoy calling complete strangers stupid, i dont even know why i get worked up over you. right, i remember. because people like you remind me of how the world is run these days.
in a rather ignorant way.
i don't know why you're worked up but i guess you are right, i am responsible for the way the world is run today
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BritishInvader
Amarr
Leela's Lamas
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Posted - 2007.08.14 13:27:00 -
[110]
You use Autopilot?
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Taipan Gedscho
Muzzletov Gewaltski Inc.
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Posted - 2007.08.14 13:28:00 -
[111]
Edited by: Taipan Gedscho on 14/08/2007 13:33:34
Originally by: Etheral Queen
i don't know why you're worked up but i guess you are right, i am responsible for the way the world is run today
i didnt say that. you just remind me of ignorant people. a lot.
but youre obviously just trolling. you know whats funny?
you telling me i should learn to read.
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Etheral Queen
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Posted - 2007.08.14 13:29:00 -
[112]
Originally by: BritishInvader
You use Autopilot?
autopilot/warp to 0 same thing you dont see anything between your start point and destination
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Etheral Queen
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Posted - 2007.08.14 13:30:00 -
[113]
Edited by: Etheral Queen on 14/08/2007 13:30:48
Originally by: Taipan Gedscho
i didnt say that. you just remind me of ignorant people. a lot.
but youre obviously just trolling. you know whats funny?
you telling me i should learn to read.
the only person trolling now is you
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BritishInvader
Amarr
Leela's Lamas
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Posted - 2007.08.14 13:30:00 -
[114]
Wrong.
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Elmicker
The Phoenix Rising
FreeFall Securities
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Posted - 2007.08.14 13:35:00 -
[115]
Originally by: Etheral Queen
autopilot/warp to 0 same thing
I refer you to my earlier point, that you sir, are an eejit.
Quote:
you dont see anything between your start point and destination
Only because you choose not to. You choose to WTZ, following the most direct route between missions, then doing the missions in the most boring way imaginable.
Try going to 0.0 and learning pvp. Then say the game is just autopiloting between missions.
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Iyachtu Achlysiel
Caldari
Caldari Independent Navy Reserve
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Posted - 2007.08.14 13:37:00 -
[116]
Except that they would still be clustered around those few locations, since there's nothing they could do in the empty space. Of course, if travelling was hideously slow, then that wouldn't be true as people would spend lots of time crawling through space, but that would simply murder EVE.
Also, for free travel not to be hideously slow, either you have to increase the ship speeds thousandfold (which would have real interesting consequences for PvP), or seriously reduce the size of space. I'm not a realism freak, but having a star 150km from colonized planet would be simply too stupid.
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Nlewis
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.08.14 13:37:00 -
[117]
Originally by: Etheral Queen
Edited by: Etheral Queen on 14/08/2007 10:23:56
since then i've watched an episode of mind of mencia
There's your problem. Also don't let the door hit you in the ass on the way out
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Etheral Queen
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Posted - 2007.08.14 13:39:00 -
[118]
Edited by: Etheral Queen on 14/08/2007 13:38:59
Originally by: Nlewis
Originally by: Etheral Queen
Edited by: Etheral Queen on 14/08/2007 10:23:56
since then i've watched an episode of mind of mencia
There's your problem. Also don't let the door hit you in the ass on the way out
another random rtard, dee dee dee
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Nlewis
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.08.14 13:40:00 -
[119]
Edited by: Nlewis on 14/08/2007 13:40:38
Originally by: Etheral Queen
Edited by: Etheral Queen on 14/08/2007 13:38:59
Originally by: Nlewis
Originally by: Etheral Queen
Edited by: Etheral Queen on 14/08/2007 10:23:56
since then i've watched an episode of mind of mencia
There's your problem. Also don't let the door hit you in the ass on the way out
another random rtard, dee dee dee
you call me a "rtard" and you think that warp to zero and autopilot are the same thing?
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Etruscus
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Posted - 2007.08.14 13:41:00 -
[120]
Originally by: Etheral Queen
Edited by: Etheral Queen on 14/08/2007 10:23:56
So i just cancelled my WoW account and resubbed to EvE for a month and i'm regretting it already. as much as i love the idea behind eve i just find it too slow paced and unresponsive i spend most of my time watching a screen that is mostly black.
if i compare WoW to EvE it would be like in WoW you have to take the Windrider/Gryphon to go anywhere, whati mean is you click i want to go here then spend 10 minutes watching your character do something, its unresponsive, if i had freedom of movement in eve it would make it so much better. to me it seems like jumpgates/auto pilot are the biggest mistake made for eve it takes so long to do a quest.
to give you an idea i started worlds collide about 45mins ago, since then i've watched an episode of mind of mencia and browsed the web for chinese food recipes...who would have thought im playing a game? can't wait for a new sci-fi mmo to come out, one where i actually get to control my character instead of f1-f7/watch tv.
and no, you can't have my faction fitted/tech2 cnr
The reason why you are bored is because you are trying to apply WoW/EQ principles to Eve. If you want to enjoy Eve, you should approach eve with eve principles. Eve was not designed to be "quest driven" it is a "player driven" model. Join a corp. Move to 0.0. Blow someone up.
You see, you are so used to do things in games that you don't like that you continue to do it here, even though it isn't necessary. You don't like running missions? Stop doing that and so something else.
Besides, eve isn't meant for everyone. If what you require is a step by step quest, then perhaps Eve is not the game for you.
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Elmicker
The Phoenix Rising
FreeFall Securities
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Posted - 2007.08.14 13:41:00 -
[121]
Originally by: Etheral Queen
another random ******, dee dee dee
I must take this opportunity to reiterate my earlier point of idiocy.
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Etheral Queen
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Posted - 2007.08.14 13:41:00 -
[122]
Edited by: Etheral Queen on 14/08/2007 13:42:49
Originally by: Nlewis
Edited by: Nlewis on 14/08/2007 13:40:38
Originally by: Etheral Queen
Edited by: Etheral Queen on 14/08/2007 13:38:59
Originally by: Nlewis
Originally by: Etheral Queen
Edited by: Etheral Queen on 14/08/2007 10:23:56
since then i've watched an episode of mind of mencia
There's your problem. Also don't let the door hit you in the ass on the way out
another random rtard, dee dee dee
you call me a "rtard" and you think that warp to zero and autopilot are the same thing?
yes, because both of them take me to a place i designate instantly.
well, pretty much the space between my starting place and the first "zone" i.e jumpgate, station, safespot is effectively non existant
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Death Kill
Caldari
direkte
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Posted - 2007.08.14 13:42:00 -
[123]
Can anyone tell me what this 'pve raids' are?
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Nlewis
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.08.14 13:43:00 -
[124]
Edited by: Nlewis on 14/08/2007 13:43:43
Originally by: Etheral Queen
Originally by: Nlewis
Edited by: Nlewis on 14/08/2007 13:40:38
Originally by: Etheral Queen
Edited by: Etheral Queen on 14/08/2007 13:38:59
Originally by: Nlewis
Originally by: Etheral Queen
Edited by: Etheral Queen on 14/08/2007 10:23:56
since then i've watched an episode of mind of mencia
There's your problem. Also don't let the door hit you in the ass on the way out
another random rtard, dee dee dee
you call me a "rtard" and you think that warp to zero and autopilot are the same thing?
yes, because both of them take me to a place i designate instantly.
yeah but that's not the point. autopilot is about 400% slower and have fun getting killed if you ever make it to 0.0
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Etheral Queen
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Posted - 2007.08.14 13:44:00 -
[125]
Originally by: Elmicker
Originally by: Etheral Queen
another random ******, dee dee dee
I must take this opportunity to reiterate my earlier point of idiocy.
you got nothing better to do?
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Sharupak
Minmatar
Knights Of the Black Sun
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Posted - 2007.08.14 13:47:00 -
[126]
Originally by: Etheral Queen
Edited by: Etheral Queen on 14/08/2007 10:23:56
So i just cancelled my WoW account and resubbed to EvE for a month and i'm regretting it already. as much as i love the idea behind eve i just find it too slow paced and unresponsive i spend most of my time watching a screen that is mostly black.
if i compare WoW to EvE it would be like in WoW you have to take the Windrider/Gryphon to go anywhere, whati mean is you click i want to go here then spend 10 minutes watching your character do something, its unresponsive, if i had freedom of movement in eve it would make it so much better. to me it seems like jumpgates/auto pilot are the biggest mistake made for eve it takes so long to do a quest.
to give you an idea i started worlds collide about 45mins ago, since then i've watched an episode of mind of mencia and browsed the web for chinese food recipes...who would have thought im playing a game? can't wait for a new sci-fi mmo to come out, one where i actually get to control my character instead of f1-f7/watch tv.
and no, you can't have my faction fitted/tech2 cnr
different strokes for different folks. This game is definately not for you if you are comparing it to WOW. Totally different mindset/ideology/objectives to the game.
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Etheral Queen
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Posted - 2007.08.14 13:47:00 -
[127]
Originally by: Nlewis
Edited by: Nlewis on 14/08/2007 13:43:43
Originally by: Etheral Queen
Originally by: Nlewis
Edited by: Nlewis on 14/08/2007 13:40:38
Originally by: Etheral Queen
Edited by: Etheral Queen on 14/08/2007 13:38:59
Originally by: Nlewis
Originally by: Etheral Queen
Edited by: Etheral Queen on 14/08/2007 10:23:56
since then i've watched an episode of mind of mencia
There's your problem. Also don't let the door hit you in the ass on the way out
another random rtard, dee dee dee
you call me a "rtard" and you think that warp to zero and autopilot are the same thing?
yes, because both of them take me to a place i designate instantly.
yeah but that's not the point. autopilot is about 400% slower and have fun getting killed if you ever make it to 0.0
how is it slower? because you have to slowboat 15k? my point was i think it would be more fun if the areas between the station,safespot, whatever had more people in it and it was easier to navigate manually from those places, yes increase speed for travel but you could at the same time have a limited speed for people in combat so you dont have people warping about firing weapons.
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Etheral Queen
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Posted - 2007.08.14 13:48:00 -
[128]
Originally by: Sharupak
Originally by: Etheral Queen
Edited by: Etheral Queen on 14/08/2007 10:23:56
So i just cancelled my WoW account and resubbed to EvE for a month and i'm regretting it already. as much as i love the idea behind eve i just find it too slow paced and unresponsive i spend most of my time watching a screen that is mostly black.
if i compare WoW to EvE it would be like in WoW you have to take the Windrider/Gryphon to go anywhere, whati mean is you click i want to go here then spend 10 minutes watching your character do something, its unresponsive, if i had freedom of movement in eve it would make it so much better. to me it seems like jumpgates/auto pilot are the biggest mistake made for eve it takes so long to do a quest.
to give you an idea i started worlds collide about 45mins ago, since then i've watched an episode of mind of mencia and browsed the web for chinese food recipes...who would have thought im playing a game? can't wait for a new sci-fi mmo to come out, one where i actually get to control my character instead of f1-f7/watch tv.
and no, you can't have my faction fitted/tech2 cnr
different strokes for different folks. This game is definately not for you if you are comparing it to WOW. Totally different mindset/ideology/objectives to the game.
thank you, i know its not for me but i like the idea and setting and was merely pointing out things i thought could be changed and imo made better.
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Nlewis
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.08.14 13:50:00 -
[129]
Originally by: Etheral Queen
Originally by: Nlewis
Edited by: Nlewis on 14/08/2007 13:43:43
Originally by: Etheral Queen
Originally by: Nlewis
Edited by: Nlewis on 14/08/2007 13:40:38
Originally by: Etheral Queen
Edited by: Etheral Queen on 14/08/2007 13:38:59
Originally by: Nlewis
Originally by: Etheral Queen
Edited by: Etheral Queen on 14/08/2007 10:23:56
since then i've watched an episode of mind of mencia
There's your problem. Also don't let the door hit you in the ass on the way out
another random rtard, dee dee dee
you call me a "rtard" and you think that warp to zero and autopilot are the same thing?
yes, because both of them take me to a place i designate instantly.
yeah but that's not the point. autopilot is about 400% slower and have fun getting killed if you ever make it to 0.0
how is it slower? because you have to slowboat 15k?
uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh yes?
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Admus
Mobius Construct
Knights Of the Southerncross
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Posted - 2007.08.14 13:50:00 -
[130]
May I just put in my own views here.
I have to grind a little to support my endeavors. But I fully enjoy the endeavors. I enjoy the game and the people I play it with. If you don't enjoy, why are you playing it?
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Etheral Queen
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Posted - 2007.08.14 13:51:00 -
[131]
Edited by: Etheral Queen on 14/08/2007 13:51:22
Edited by: Etheral Queen on 14/08/2007 13:51:11
and you completely miss what im talking about
not you admus, guy above you
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Nlewis
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.08.14 13:52:00 -
[132]
Originally by: Etheral Queen
Edited by: Etheral Queen on 14/08/2007 13:51:11
and you completely miss what im talking about
not you admus, guy above you
no you are just an idiot. walking to a place and driving to the place is not the same even though you eventually end up at the same place
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Etheral Queen
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Posted - 2007.08.14 13:59:00 -
[133]
Originally by: Nlewis
Originally by: Etheral Queen
Edited by: Etheral Queen on 14/08/2007 13:51:11
and you completely miss what im talking about
not you admus, guy above you
no you are just an idiot. walking to a place and driving to the place is not the same even though you eventually end up at the same place
eh? sorry but you have completely misunderstood what i was saying.
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Huitzilopochtli Tlaloc
Forum Moderator
Interstellar Services Department
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Posted - 2007.08.14 14:18:00 -
[134]
O.k im locking this thread both sides to thios argument were as bad as each other and after removing the insults and the name calling i can not trust that this thread will stay out of the gutter.
can i just make a few points
1) yes as long as you post in the rules you can say what you like on the eve - o forums, but some of you seriously need to look at the rules again.
2) OP, please be more carefull how you structure your posts, please learn from this, comming into the hear of eve-o community without a carefully thought out post can lead to stuff like this and to the rest of the posters, this is not the first or last WOW / EVE post so please if you dont have anything constructive to add just dont post!
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