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CCP Wrangler
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Posted - 2007.08.24 08:53:00 -
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Tranquility will undergo an extended downtime on Tuesday, 28 August. The start time is 11.00 GMT and the length of the downtime is expected to be 3.5 hours. During this time, a patch will be applied to Revelations consisting of enhancements, fixes and improvements.
Please note that Eve Voice may be unavailable for 2 hours before the downtime starts as they might be upgrading their servers as well.
Patch Notes will be available for review at a later time. Additions may be made to the patch notes as Quality Assurance efforts continue throughout the weekend. Changes made will be highlighted in green text.
Training a long learning duration skill ending after the scheduled return to service is recommended.
Wrangler
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Maze La'Zie
Caldari Independent Navy Reserve
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Posted - 2007.08.24 08:54:00 -
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Here's hoping it is stable by tournament time...
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Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises
Otherworld Empire
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Posted - 2007.08.24 09:00:00 -
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Noooooooo!
Help me help you. |
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Thraxon
Black-Sun-Inventions
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Posted - 2007.08.24 09:33:00 -
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This is when the nos and khanid changes will come?
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Mazza
Macabre Votum
INVICTUS.
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Posted - 2007.08.24 09:36:00 -
[5]
is this the compression nerf patch????
Yarrrrrrr |
iiOs
The Cry of Mankind
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Posted - 2007.08.24 09:57:00 -
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try to remember to set long skill training ppl
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DWOF
Minmatar
BIG
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Posted - 2007.08.24 09:59:00 -
[7]
Patch notes.... I need patch notes..... |
Serj Darek
Minmatar
Mentally Unstable Enterprises
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Posted - 2007.08.24 10:05:00 -
[8]
Yummy
First!
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Chiggie
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Posted - 2007.08.24 10:10:00 -
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Edited by: Chiggie on 24/08/2007 10:10:24
WOW CCP has seemingly forgotten to release the patch notes,... Ah but NO, I see they have WITHHELD the patch notes because the whole bloody Amarr Empire would revolt. Even the Amarr Empire treated the poor Minmatar slaves better than CCP treates its customers.
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Irongut
M'8'S
Frontal Impact
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Posted - 2007.08.24 10:14:00 -
[10]
 Originally by: Chiggie
Even the Amarr Empire treated the poor Minmatar slaves better than CCP treates its customers.
Well you know you could always quit, no one forces you to play. Or do they? Are you a slave in an isk farming sweat shop? If not then please STFU.
Always program as if the person who will be maintaining your program is a violent psychopath that knows where you live.
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Verone
Veto Corp
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Posted - 2007.08.24 10:21:00 -
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Should have a nice effect on the tournament 
>>> THE BEAUTY OF NEW EDEN <<<
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N1fty
Amarr
Galactic Shipyards Inc
HUZZAH FEDERATION
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Posted - 2007.08.24 10:38:00 -
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Fingers crossed for Amarr oomph. Or is it Calamar now?
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CCP Wrangler
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Posted - 2007.08.24 10:50:00 -
[13]
Originally by: Chribba
Noooooooo!
Go sniff some Veldspar.
Originally by: Thraxon
This is when the nos and khanid changes will come?
Yes.
Originally by: Chiggie
Edited by: Chiggie on 24/08/2007 10:10:24
WOW CCP has seemingly forgotten to release the patch notes,... Ah but NO, I see they have WITHHELD the patch notes because the whole bloody Amarr Empire would revolt. Even the Amarr Empire treated the poor Minmatar slaves better than CCP treates its customers.
No, I'm working on the patch notes right now, they should be published this afternoon as I'm currently about half way through. I wanted to get the date and time out as fast as possible rather than wait until I had finished the patch notes.
Wrangler
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SeismicForce
Clear Horizon Industries
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Posted - 2007.08.24 10:50:00 -
[14]
Originally by: Chiggie
Edited by: Chiggie on 24/08/2007 10:10:24
WOW CCP has seemingly forgotten to release the patch notes,... Ah but NO, I see they have WITHHELD the patch notes because the whole bloody Amarr Empire would revolt. Even the Amarr Empire treated the poor Minmatar slaves better than CCP treates its customers.
They always announce the patch before they release the patch notes. Stop whining ffs.
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Raptor Deathbringer
1st Brigade Of Danes
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Posted - 2007.08.24 10:58:00 -
[15]
I love patches 
But i hate downtime 
Good reason to sleep the day away =P
Originally by: CCP Wrangler
I have no clue.
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Cashflow Broker
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Posted - 2007.08.24 11:00:00 -
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wohooooo
patch is commin'
patch in commin'
patch is commin'
patch is commin'
patch is commin'
Can ya'll feeeeeeeeeel those patch vibes?
It makes me tingle all over the place 
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Azzprun
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Posted - 2007.08.24 11:11:00 -
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Got long training all ready lined up for my 3 accounts
16 days plus should be safe enough
Still wish they would give the ability to stack skills for training
Even if it is only 2 skills that you could stack, would be nice
Especially when u get a skill that would finish while u were asleep or at work, etc and you have to remember to change to another skill and then back again
Ah well, I just keep dreaming on about the possibility of that happening 
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jeffb
GoonFleet
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Posted - 2007.08.24 11:12:00 -
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Please say you're rebalancing the hp of POS modules, especially the cyno jammer & every modules structure hp.
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Bart Roberts
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Posted - 2007.08.24 11:36:00 -
[19]
/me crosses his fingers that taking Unknown results out of the Cosmic Signature scan group is also included in this patch.
Explorers unite!
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ninjaholic
Burn the Jolly Roger
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Posted - 2007.08.24 11:37:00 -
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NOS = NERFED tbh
Makes me a sad Panda. 
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Lady Caeser
Open Fist of Castallus
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Posted - 2007.08.24 11:43:00 -
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Originally by: jeffb
Please say you're rebalancing the hp of POS modules, especially the cyno jammer & every modules structure hp.
will save them a lot of petitions if they do the structure thing so its in their interest.
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Fenlaw
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Posted - 2007.08.24 11:43:00 -
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Maybe, just maybe this is the thread where I can get an answer to this. I'm quite interessted in learning if I completly missed it or if the devs did infact change the Advanced Mobile Laboratory stats and go back and edit a devblog, to meet the new specifications, without mentioning it anywhere? Why, oh why?
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mastergamer
Caldari
Racketeers
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Posted - 2007.08.24 11:52:00 -
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Noes! Nos nerf!
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Radianze
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Posted - 2007.08.24 12:00:00 -
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NOS nerf? whats that? i never had cap that could be NOSed
/me crosses fingerfor some amarr boosts
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Vaarun
Amarr
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Posted - 2007.08.24 12:17:00 -
[25]
Originally by: Chiggie
Edited by: Chiggie on 24/08/2007 10:10:24
WOW CCP has seemingly forgotten to release the patch notes,... Ah but NO, I see they have WITHHELD the patch notes because the whole bloody Amarr Empire would revolt. Even the Amarr Empire treated the poor Minmatar slaves better than CCP treates its customers.
Oh, please. I'm a refugee from Project Entropia. You haven't seen poor customer treatment!
CCP seems on top of it and they even take the time to respond, in a forum they made! Mindark doesn't have a forum for their own game and anything we say to them is either met with silence or a cut-and-paste two line response.
So...look where I am!
I understand that customer service in each game is relative, but I look around at the detail, the background and side-stories, and pages, and pages of announcements this year alone and am quite pleased I made a move here.
Can't please everyone, I guess...
AS an Amarr myself I am looking forward to the patch!
"To bring order to chaos, one must bring chaos to its knees."
-Vaarun |
Andrue
Amarr
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Posted - 2007.08.24 12:40:00 -
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Cool. I'm not on holiday next week
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[Brackley, UK]
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Maximus Aerelius
Minmatar
PROPHET OF ENIGMA
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Posted - 2007.08.24 12:57:00 -
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Edited by: Maximus Aerelius on 24/08/2007 13:02:33
Oh may be then I will be able to move all my bookmarks I backed up into containers back into my People & Places since the last patching nerfed the whole lot!
Petitions are already written and Log Server is on Standby ready for another 'Lets Kill Off The Small Guy' approach from CCP for my bookmark issue.
Fingers crossed and Flamer at the ready...lets have it large!
Maximus Aerelius
Chief Executive Officer
Prophet Of Enigma
'With Great Power Comes Great Responsibility'
(Alliance: The Small Fish CCP Want To Fry) 
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Ranger 1
Amarr
Shiva
Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2007.08.24 13:06:00 -
[28]
Originally by: N1fty
Fingers crossed for Amarr oomph. Or is it Calamar now?
If so, does that make us Calamari?
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Thomas Mace
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Posted - 2007.08.24 13:20:00 -
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I hope they will add some music for miners:D like HeyHo or Gold GOld Gold or maybe even new laser named The Pickaxe
Hehehe just kiddin,cant wait to see what will come upon us
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Hamfast
Gallente
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Posted - 2007.08.24 13:41:00 -
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Is it afternoon yet???
guess not, I will check back later...
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It takes 43 muscles to frown and 17 to smile, but it doesn't take any to just sit there with a dumb look on your face.
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LastTraitorStanding
Amarr
The Imperial Assassins
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Posted - 2007.08.24 13:48:00 -
[31]
Good thing metroid prime 3 comes out tuesday.
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Razin
The xDEATHx Squadron
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Posted - 2007.08.24 14:01:00 -
[32]
Originally by: ninjaholic
NOS = NERFED tbh
Makes me a sad Panda.
The upcoming NOS change is a single best EVE improvement this year.
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Shintai
Gallente
IonTech Corporation
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Posted - 2007.08.24 14:02:00 -
[33]
Nice, I¦m looking forward to it and the notes Ľ_Ľ
Abstraction and Transcendence: Na |
Kazuo Ishiguro
House of Marbles
Zzz
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Posted - 2007.08.24 14:11:00 -
[34]
Any plans for a new mirror on the test server?
My research services
Spreadsheets: Top speed calculation - Halo Implant stats |
Marchant LaCroix
Gallente
Ma-Ven Industries
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Posted - 2007.08.24 14:11:00 -
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RE: Exploration
If the changes on SiSi are anything to go by exploration is going to get better after the rather lack lustre deployment of the on-board scanner micro-exploration site. As an occasional explorer I share the frustration of searching with a multi-spec and picking all these unknowns up which are just these useless little sites. However, I don't think Unknown sites are going to go anytime soon. Some of them are actually pretty awesome (tanking a Guristas nexus in a dual repping myrmi ftw) instead they're replacing the scrap choice with a 'Cosmic Anomaly' option. The are what you search for when looking for the micro-exploration sites so us real explorers can get on with looking for a real payday.
Grats to CCP for sorting this out and I look forward to getting 'Nothing Found'with a multi-spec in a system that does actually have no value at all (to someone using probes anyway). Was also wondering if scanning while cloaked is becoming a 'feature' or a little glitch with Rev 2.1.1
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CCP Wrangler
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Posted - 2007.08.24 14:47:00 -
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We have Patch Notes!
Wrangler
Community Manager
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Victor Valka
Caldari
Archon Industries
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Posted - 2007.08.24 14:52:00 -
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Originally by: Patch Notes >> Combat:
Interdictor warp disrupt probes will now prevent warp, even if the warp is already initiated.
This is WIN!
... if it works.
/me knocks on the wood
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DarkMercenary
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Posted - 2007.08.24 14:59:00 -
[38]
Edited by: DarkMercenary on 24/08/2007 15:00:35
The links to the Dev Blogs are not working
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Kimo Sabi
Minmatar
United Systems Navy
Infinite Innovation
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Posted - 2007.08.24 15:04:00 -
[39]
So Much Cowbell
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Kimo Sabi's Mining Spreadsheet
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Jernau Gurgeh
Gallente
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Posted - 2007.08.24 15:06:00 -
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The Khanid devblog's description of the Damnation no longer matches what is on the test server.
Which version are we getting?
There are 10 sorts of people in the world - those who understand binary, and those who do not. |
Spider Kauphman
Whiskey Tango Foxtrot
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Posted - 2007.08.24 15:08:00 -
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Quote:
Corpses, Wrecks and cans have had their properties adjusted so that ships will pass straight through them.
Will they still decloak ships?
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CCP Wrangler
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Posted - 2007.08.24 15:16:00 -
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Originally by: DarkMercenary
Edited by: DarkMercenary on 24/08/2007 15:00:35
The links to the Dev Blogs are not working
(Just fixed thank you)
I did it in in word and the " is slightly different there like this ö which unfortunately doesn't work with links, so I had to change that. 
Wrangler
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Ricky1989
Caldari
Vengeance of the Fallen
Curse Alliance
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Posted - 2007.08.24 15:17:00 -
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OMG I just checked out the Capital Navigation Window. That is freaking sweet!
No more jump planner anymore for me!
Thank you so much!
*Gives CCP cookies*
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john120
In White Suits
3asy Company
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Posted - 2007.08.24 15:21:00 -
[44]
Interdictor warp disrupt probes will now prevent warp, even if the warp is already initiated.
i love you ccp
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Zenst
Gallente
Reikoku
Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.08.24 15:26:00 -
[45]
Originally by: CCP Wrangler
We have Patch Notes!
Corpses, Wrecks and cans have had their properties adjusted so that ships will pass straight through them.
WBT emoticon that implies I'm soooo happy that I want to give you babies
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CCP Wrangler
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Posted - 2007.08.24 15:26:00 -
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Originally by: john120
i love you ccp
We love you too! We love you all! GROUPHUG!!!
Wrangler
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Bart Roberts
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Posted - 2007.08.24 15:27:00 -
[47]
Quote:
Exploration sites of the encounter type have had their scan category, or signature type, changed to Cosmic Anomaly, to help differentiate them from other types of exploration sites. The on-board scanner has been adjusted accordingly and now can now only scan for Cosmic Anomalies.
rock 'n' roll
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Elistan
Gallente
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Posted - 2007.08.24 15:29:00 -
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One quick question, I noticed that the Mining Crystal invention appears to be tied to amarr.
Is this intentional, The reason why I ask is because everything else mining is Gallente based.
Elistan.
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Kazuo Ishiguro
House of Marbles
Zzz
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Posted - 2007.08.24 15:30:00 -
[49]
I think I count five or six duplicated entries in the notes, but they're mostly very welcome, especially the POS fuel & interdiction changes.
The only one that makes no sense to me is raising the datacore requirements for sentry drone invention; they're already the most expensive (and among the least popular) drones on the market, and the datacores already account for most of the cost of production.
My research services
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1Of9
Gallente
Beasts of Burden
YouWhat
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Posted - 2007.08.24 15:34:00 -
[50]
From hate to love.
NOS nerf .. worst thing ever, but after a couple hours in sisi, i love it, cant wait for it in TQ.
On the other end, dictor bubbles /o\
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Bruno Bonner
Gallente
Lutin Group
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Posted - 2007.08.24 15:38:00 -
[51]
I didn't seen any mention to the increased space to regular fuel bays on POS, only the separation of the strontium bay.
Can we get a clarification on that detail please?
Quote:
The volume of the warp sound has been lowered!
THANK YOU!
/me goes and activates sound again
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maarud
Coreli Corporation
Exuro Mortis
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Posted - 2007.08.24 15:45:00 -
[52]
Just read the patch notes...
No fix on the Invention Implants, no seeding of the ME implants?
Also, no word on a fix in reguards to invention and having skills at lvl 5 and getting worse results?
Thanks for the labs :)
Maarud.
Proudly a Ex-BYDI member |
Sismar
Minmatar
Ordem dos Templarios
Pax Atlantis
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Posted - 2007.08.24 16:00:00 -
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no cloak nerf yet
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Felysta Sandorn
Caldari
System-Lords
Exquisite Malevolence
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Posted - 2007.08.24 16:04:00 -
[54]
Edited by: Felysta Sandorn on 24/08/2007 16:04:46
Edited by: Felysta Sandorn on 24/08/2007 16:04:34
Originally by: CCP Wrangler
We have Patch Notes!
Are you seeding the science skillbooks as per this devblog? And I quote:
Originally by: CCP Chronotis
Science and Invention Skill Seeding
Science and Invention skills, excluding Encryption Methods, will be seeded on the market. Some of these skills have a disproportionally high demand (such as the Graviton Physics skill required by the Interdiction Sphere Launcher), preventing smaller corporations or alliances the opportunity to become involved in this section of the market. Seeding a greater supply will allow more players to get into invention and advanced manufacturing or research. The base price will be 10 million ISK.
If not, when are these going to be seeded?
Also, I love you so damn much for giving the geddon a much needed CPU increase... I've got a few ideas for the Apoc's role change you discussed in this dev blog, which I'll quote again for anyone that missed it:
Originally by: Tuxford
General ship loving. There are some ships that need help and we're gonna give it to them. Which ships you might ask? Well, Armageddon might need some fitting help, the cruisers aren't really that great and Apocalypse might get a bit of a role twist.
Any news on that change?
Cheers!
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Azrael Maxim
Flexible Demeanour
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Posted - 2007.08.24 16:08:00 -
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One of the best patches this year, good work ccp.
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Anwylyd Al'Vos
Minmatar
Furian Alive
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Posted - 2007.08.24 16:09:00 -
[56]
Looks like an all around tasty change, good stuff.
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Castryon Merk
Minmatar
NYIT Gangstaz
SMASH Alliance
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Posted - 2007.08.24 16:13:00 -
[57]
err wait....
"ORE Capital Ship introduced as described in this Dev Blog. "
ummm
is it to late to go carebear?
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Ice Globe
Infinitus Odium
The Church.
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Posted - 2007.08.24 16:13:00 -
[58]
Some great fixes in this patch CCP, well done!
*You can now warp to gang members who are over 150 km away by clicking them in space, or on the overview.
*When cancelling warp, the overview options on a selected item should automatically update, allowing you to warp to that item.
And at last, a quieter warp sound !
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Ikkajo
Minmatar
Illudium Space Products
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Posted - 2007.08.24 16:14:00 -
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Felysta, there's an entry in the patch notes about seeding the skillbooks. Looks like a direct copy of the Chronotis devblog quote.
Question for Devs:
Patch notes say the Yeti BX-2 is now going to Cybernetics V for requirements. What happens to those of us that don't have that right now but have the implant installed in one of our clones, or in our active clone? Is the effect just ignored for the active clone until we get lvl 5? Is our jump clones disabled until we get the skill trained up or can we still jump to it, but have the implant effect disabled?
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Industrialist Carebear, CEO
Illudium Space Products: Where's the KABOOM!?
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Monsted
Gallente
NYIT Gangstaz
SMASH Alliance
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Posted - 2007.08.24 16:15:00 -
[60]
Yay for me!!
Originally by: Castryon Merk
err wait....
"ORE Capital Ship introduced as described in this Dev Blog. "
ummm
is it to late to go carebear?
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Hamfast
Gallente
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Posted - 2007.08.24 16:25:00 -
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Thanks for the Release notes (must be the afternoon now)...
I see that some mission fixes, slated for this release, have been "deferred" (this means put off until some future date), nor was anything said about the other "Group turn in" issues... I must assume they are also "Deferred"...
-- Courier missions that end at a remote station have no group turn in option (deferred)
-- Using the Group Turn in option when a mission is completed does not go to the correct page, but skips to the next (Agent Greeting page, not the mission end page)
Looking forward to the patch.
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It takes 43 muscles to frown and 17 to smile, but it doesn't take any to just sit there with a dumb look on your face.
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Gnulpie
Minmatar
Miner Tech
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Posted - 2007.08.24 16:27:00 -
[62]
Wow, that is a BIG patch.
I'm all curious and can't await it (well I can obviously, haha)!
Gogogo
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Garat Mant
Minmatar
Moons of Pluto
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Posted - 2007.08.24 16:34:00 -
[63]
Holy huge patches, Batman!
There's a massive amount of good stuff in there, way to go CCP. I shakily raise my Monster Energy Drink to you.
Salut!
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Nothing I say represents my corp. Unless I say otherwise. |
Nexa rou
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Posted - 2007.08.24 16:47:00 -
[64]
when are u going to do somthing about caldari ships most of them are useless
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Ricky1989
Caldari
Vengeance of the Fallen
Curse Alliance
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Posted - 2007.08.24 16:52:00 -
[65]
Originally by: Nexa rou
when are u going to do somthing about caldari ships most of them are useless
Be specific, whining about them as a whole won't do you any favours.
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Titus Lewis
Absolutely No Return
The Red Skull
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Posted - 2007.08.24 16:54:00 -
[66]
And so I looked upon it, and saw that it was good.
Freedom is Slavery
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Paddlefoot Aeon
Neogen Industries
Fallen Souls
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Posted - 2007.08.24 16:59:00 -
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Edited by: Paddlefoot Aeon on 24/08/2007 16:59:20
I remember reading in a Dev Blog that the skiff would have some adjustments made with regards to its mining yeild on some of the "lower-end" 'roids.
Will this change be coming with rev 2.2 and the ORE cap ship, or coming out in REV 3.0 along with the mineral-compression nerf?
Overall, great patch notes! I'm especially happy about the interdictor bubble changes... but I have a question:
Currently, if you are in warping to a gate and a bubble is popped after you are warping and in the tunnel, you fly through the bubble and land on the gate. Also, if you select warp and are aligning when the bubble is popped, it won't affect you.
Now, with this change, will both of the above cases be affected, or just the latter?
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Fesch Fleisch
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Posted - 2007.08.24 16:59:00 -
[68]
I think you linked the wrong blog for the khanid changes .. unless you guys decided to scrap the later one.
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nomis ekoobmah
Minmatar
Republic University
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Posted - 2007.08.24 17:24:00 -
[69]
Yay, named mining upgrades will be working at last.
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Cyan Nuevo
Dudes In Crazy Killing Ships
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Posted - 2007.08.24 17:36:00 -
[70]
Man, I was wondering what was taking you guys so long, but now I see why. There's a ton of great stuff in there!
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Gen Maton
Ars ex Discordia
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Posted - 2007.08.24 17:37:00 -
[71]
Will there be an addition of faction Citadel Torpedoes?
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ForceM
Gallente
POS Builder Inc.
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Posted - 2007.08.24 17:49:00 -
[72]
Edited by: ForceM on 24/08/2007 17:50:25
Originally by: Patch Notes
It was possible to get the ôtarget lockingö and various other sound effects to loop. (Yes! EVE has sound!) This has been fixed.
I lolled :)
edit: i cant edit :(
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coming to fanfest by any chance? eris
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Matalino
Gallente
Ki Tech Industries
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Posted - 2007.08.24 17:51:00 -
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Originally by: Felysta Sandorn
Are you seeding the science skillbooks as per this devblog?
It is on the list under the Skills & Implants section. \o/
Originally by: CCP Prism X
P.S. If you think you're reading some information through the lines here, you're wrong. I'm actually just bored.
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Matalino
Gallente
Ki Tech Industries
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Posted - 2007.08.24 17:53:00 -
[74]
Originally by: ForceM
Edited by: ForceM on 24/08/2007 17:50:25
Originally by: Patch Notes
It was possible to get the ôtarget lockingö and various other sound effects to loop. (Yes! EVE has sound!) This has been fixed.
I lolled :)
The quote should be:
Originally by: Patch Notes
(Yes! EVE has sound!) This has been fixed.
Originally by: CCP Prism X
P.S. If you think you're reading some information through the lines here, you're wrong. I'm actually just bored.
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Angelik'a
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Posted - 2007.08.24 17:53:00 -
[75]
What will "commander drones" drop loot wise?
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Veng3ance
New Dawn Rising
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Posted - 2007.08.24 17:55:00 -
[76]
Awsome patch guys!
Keep up the good work!
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Lady Caeser
Open Fist of Castallus
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Posted - 2007.08.24 17:57:00 -
[77]
Eve is a massively complicated game and it never ceases to amaze me how even-handedly you approach the patches, adding and balancing all aspects of the game instead of pandering to one particular group (despite the whines on the forum).
Here's wishing you a smooth and successful deployment.
Kaplaa!
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STLEM2
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Posted - 2007.08.24 18:09:00 -
[78]
The end to ships cynoing in to POS's... Outside they're rather vunerable considering a deathstar couldn't gank grandma anymore. :\
How long before we get patchnotes 'capital ships cannot enter POS's' :o
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Bom Bolenath
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Posted - 2007.08.24 18:14:00 -
[79]
Some great stuff, to be sure. . .
Echoing others, though: What's the story with Khanid ships? You've linked us back to the early proposed changes, suggesting that there won't be heavy missiles on the damnation, etc. . .
Also, again, why no fix for the skill, LP, and isk intensive, "draftsman" implants? Just for the sake of another kick in the pants for already disgruntled inventors?
Bom
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Razin
The xDEATHx Squadron
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Posted - 2007.08.24 18:15:00 -
[80]
Great set of fixes! Good luck with deployment!
Will the issue of being able to click 'through' the overview be fixed in this patch?
...
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Broken Star
Gallente
Federal Navy Academy
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Posted - 2007.08.24 18:27:00 -
[81]
Quote:
Low security space and 0.0 areas now have 50% more Encounters per system.
Does this mean there will be 50% more spawns? Or what? 
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IlluminatedOne
Amarr
Tycho Brahe Fan Club
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Posted - 2007.08.24 18:30:00 -
[82]
Guys, where is the Zealot boost? Forgot about it?...
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Phrixus Zephyr
D00M.
Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2007.08.24 18:43:00 -
[83]
Edited by: Phrixus Zephyr on 24/08/2007 18:43:41
Originally by: CCP Wrangler
We have Patch Notes!
Dude, seriously. Heretic gets changed, Flycatcher gets a buff. Eris is STILL unbelievably useless at everything. It even gets the worst of the bubble deploy bump. My Sabre gets a little knock off course most of the time, Eris stops dead in its tracks almost every time.
Rabblerabble -Sahwoolo |
Lenid Kalkin
Ars ex Discordia
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.08.24 19:15:00 -
[84]
Quote:
When a ship with deployed drones/fighters enters a Starbase force field, the drones/fighters automatically return to the ship.
For carriers, can we get confirmation on whether this applies to assigned fighters or just fighters under the carriers local control?
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Goonkilla
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Posted - 2007.08.24 19:17:00 -
[85]
Edited by: Goonkilla on 24/08/2007 19:18:29
Quote:
ň Starbase guns should no longer shoot at ships not occupied by a pilot.
Couldn't this be exploited? Say someone's ship is going down or they are warp scrambled, so they eject to save their ship....then get back in the ship and are free to warp away since they would no longer be warp scrammed or fired on and the guns/scram would need to relock? |
Anhela
Gallente
REUNI0N
Red Alliance
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Posted - 2007.08.24 19:29:00 -
[86]
ôCapital Navigation Windowö - this mean that jumpplanner finally found it's way to EVE?
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Avalira
Caldari
Confederation of Independent Corporations
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Posted - 2007.08.24 19:50:00 -
[87]
Will the LP list in our journal (where you see how much LP you have with each corp) also be in the patch?
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Barbarellas Daughter
Lonely Barbarella
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Posted - 2007.08.24 20:06:00 -
[88]
"The Mining Foreman - Drone Coordination command module has been changed to give a range bonus to mining laser and ice harvesters."
i searched for the item in the market but couldnt find it. pls fix that aswell :)
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Originally by: Marduk Felzhen
You have an amazing cleavage, except you have no arms :(
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Alz Shado
Ever Flow
FREGE Alliance
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Posted - 2007.08.24 20:07:00 -
[89]
I had to read this three times, to make sure it said what I thought it said:
Quote:
Rogue Drone Commander NPCs now have a chance of being found in asteroid belts & ice fields in Rogue drone regions.
Officer spawns. Drone Regions.
Now all we need is security status boost! Yay CCP!
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Rhaegor Stormborn
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Posted - 2007.08.24 20:19:00 -
[90]
This is the best patch I have seen in Eve Online since I started playing the game. Keep it coming CCP.
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ForceM
Gallente
POS Builder Inc.
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Posted - 2007.08.24 20:25:00 -
[91]
Originally by: Matalino
Originally by: ForceM
Originally by: Patch Notes
It was possible to get the ôtarget lockingö and various other sound effects to loop. (Yes! EVE has sound!) This has been fixed.
I lolled :)
The quote should be:
Originally by: Patch Notes
(Yes! EVE has sound!) This has been fixed.
LOL ... ok you win :)
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Dun kill me eris
coming to fanfest by any chance? eris
*GULP*
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Mark Hamill
Galactic Waste Management
The Kano Organisation
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Posted - 2007.08.24 20:51:00 -
[92]
So, when does my Curse and Pilgrim get the extra mid slot it's going to require to run the cap boosters to feed the neuts I'm going to have to mount because NOS just got turned into nerf jelly? Oh wait... I'm Amarr, WTF am I thinking.. I'm supposed to give up a EW, Web, AB, MWD, or one of those other useless things on my recon in order to feed these damn things.
Thanks for the nerf CCP. BTW, when you guys bend over the Emporer, do you smell something funny?
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Harper Ei
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Posted - 2007.08.24 20:58:00 -
[93]
CCP Wrangler
In the patch notes it say:
"The research and invention science skills, except encryption methods, have been seeded on the market at a base price of 10 million ISK each."
Are you serious about this?
Are you aware of what this will do, not only to the markets, but to the whole gameplay per see? Have you even thought this through?
Not only will a lot of people loose a lot of money instantly. You will also make a joke out of everyone who have spent 100 mill+ for a science and research skills up until now.
All players who have yet not moved into science and research will have a huge advantage on those who have worked hard to be able to pay for expensive skills.
This is exactly what kiled Everquest2. When every player could create anything for themselves - food, clothings and armor etc - all collaboration and trade in parts and products stopped.
It is allready hard enough to make money out of invention. Now you are making it impossible. you are killing that part of the game.
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Kazuo Ishiguro
House of Marbles
Zzz
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Posted - 2007.08.24 21:16:00 -
[94]
Originally by: Goonkilla
Edited by: Goonkilla on 24/08/2007 19:18:29
Quote:
ň Starbase guns should no longer shoot at ships not occupied by a pilot.
Couldn't this be exploited? Say someone's ship is going down or they are warp scrambled, so they eject to save their ship....then get back in the ship and are free to warp away since they would no longer be warp scrammed or fired on and the guns/scram would need to relock?
The scan res/lock time of POS modules is also being adjusted, along with the sig radius of capital ships. It depends on the exact numbers, but I doubt it will be easy to do this with any terribly large ships. There's also the risk of a defender nipping out from behind the shield and stealing your ship.
My research services
Spreadsheets: Top speed calculation - Halo Implant stats |
Boomershoot
Caldari
Insurgent New Eden Tribe
Deus .Ex. Machina
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Posted - 2007.08.24 21:28:00 -
[95]
just a question, does the fact that out-of-pos anchored modules can be target/shooted means they're no more invulnerable? or does it means that you can fire n time on them doing 0 damage?
nerfed sovr 4? O_o
whatever, nerfed NOS and i'm not curse-ing ccp :E
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Digital Anarchist
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Posted - 2007.08.24 23:22:00 -
[96]
Does this patch nerf mineral compression? It's not explicit in the notes. Thanks.
Get your fix today |
Sgt Blade
An Eye For An Eye
Rule of Three
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Posted - 2007.08.24 23:37:00 -
[97]
spo what will be different with the commander drones in drones space? what do they give ? more compounds and better salvage?
Hypnotic Pelvic Thrusting Level 5 |
Explorers Ascendant
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Posted - 2007.08.25 00:07:00 -
[98]
Im mainly confused because too many players are saying too many different things. I see it the patch notes that the ice and miing upgrades cpu and yield/duration etc are to be corrected. Corrected to what? Is the -20% ice cycle duration mining upgrade I spent a fortune on still going to be -20% or am I going to be rather annoyed? Thankyou.
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Pronas
Scoopex
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Posted - 2007.08.25 00:16:00 -
[99]
I see nothing about Exploration ARCSAL site.
Just to remenber some floating "box" can't be salvage or analyze. It's said use salvager and when using salvager it's said use analyzer (or something similar)
Some month ago (before last patch) there were no problem for salvage them. I think you should move all of them need to use analyzer.
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Helen Sobell
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Posted - 2007.08.25 00:19:00 -
[100]
Originally by: Digital Anarchist
Does this patch nerf mineral compression? It's not explicit in the notes. Thanks.
no
they explicitly stated elsewhere that the mineral nerf is postponed till they have researched all the constructive comments everyone made about its impimentation.
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dhav kincaide
Caldari
Quantum Industries
Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.08.25 00:37:00 -
[101]
So, where is the fix for those of us who can not place our full share of market orders? I was told that it was going to be in 2.2's update, and I (and others) have now been all but gated from placing a full compliment of market orders for upwards of 2 months.
I'd like an update, and I don't want to hear that contracts are a viable option, because it's not the same thing. I have been unable to use one of the core, base level systems in the game due to some obscure bug that noone wants to comment on.
This is roughly equivilent to going to any random vendor in another MMO, and consulting a friggin magic 8-ball to see if I can use the market.
-dhav kincaide
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Caiman Graystock
The Caldari Confederation
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Posted - 2007.08.25 01:38:00 -
[102]
Fantastic patch, nice to see so many fixes, nice one CCP.
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Admus
Mobius Construct
Knights Of the Southerncross
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Posted - 2007.08.25 02:22:00 -
[103]
Did the Zealot change get nixed? I don't see it in the notes.
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Selnix
Gallente
Master Miners
Aftermath Alliance
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Posted - 2007.08.25 02:25:00 -
[104]
Originally by: Revelations v2.2 Patch Notes
Interdictor warp disrupt probes will now prevent warp, even if the warp is already initiated.
While you can drop an interdiction sphere on a ship that is trying to enter warp and it will successfully make that attempt fail, the sphere still won't stop a ship that enters warp from another point of origin before the bubble goes up. Guess that means the ship still fails at the role description that says "Destroyer-class vessels, designed to pull other vessels out of warp." Still hoping you guys can get it right sooner or later so enemy ships can't just zoom straight through the bubble simply because they got into warp before you were able to drop the bubble. Would also be nice if the suck of the bubbles were fixed as well so a ship headed toward the bubble can't just warp through it as they currently do, but I'd settle for the other fix.
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Riley Craven
Caldari
Copacetic Corporation
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Posted - 2007.08.25 02:29:00 -
[105]
Wrangler or any dev if you are still around....
I have a tiny wittle request of you.... for all the information you linked to dev blogs would it be possible to do one concise write up about all those changes...
Some of those blogs seem outdated even with the little updated links at the bottom and it would be nice for someone to confirm once and for all the final stats on all those changes.
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Frug
Zenithal Harvest
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Posted - 2007.08.25 04:13:00 -
[106]
Quote:
The volume of the warp sound has been lowered!
YEAH
YEYEYEYE
hehe
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BOOO!! - Ductoris
Neat look what I found - Kreul
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Siege
Minmatar
Siegecraft Bounty Hunting
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Posted - 2007.08.25 05:47:00 -
[107]
Any chance to confirm the actual changes to the Khanid ships?
You guys did a 2nd Dev blog that had some alterations to the Khanid ship changes. Will the most recent dev blog also be going into effect on this patch, with stuff such as the bhaalgorn getting neutralizer bonus and such?
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murder one
Gallente
Blood Corsair's
The Red Skull
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Posted - 2007.08.25 06:27:00 -
[108]
The Blockade Runner buff is just AWESOME. Crane w/ 2x Istabs = sex.
[07:13:55] doctorstupid2 > what do i train now?
[07:14:05] Trista Rotnor > little boys to 2
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Artemdorius
Gallente
Puzzleball Industries
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Posted - 2007.08.25 07:03:00 -
[109]
I have to say I am very happy about the change to blockade runners. Will actually make my Viator useful again
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Aysia
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Posted - 2007.08.25 07:17:00 -
[110]
Ok not sure if I am missing something but all ORE barges ect in game say they have capacities to the order of a thousand, And yet in the patch it says they are being reduced to capacities in the 100 of thousands. could someone explain this?
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Nabar Phargal
Gallente
Anqara Expeditions
The OSS
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Posted - 2007.08.25 07:22:00 -
[111]
Originally by: Aysia
Ok not sure if I am missing something but all ORE barges ect in game say they have capacities to the order of a thousand, And yet in the patch it says they are being reduced to capacities in the 100 of thousands. could someone explain this?
"* The volume of the mining barges and exhumers has been reduced as follows:"
That's the volume of the ship itself, not the cargo capacity. I assume this makes it easier for the new industrial cap ship to haul them around.
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Chruker
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Posted - 2007.08.25 07:26:00 -
[112]
Edited by: Chruker on 25/08/2007 07:26:36
Two changes that are missing in the patchnotes:
- Camera zoom no longer resets on session changes (stargate jumps, station docking).
- The Journal window now has a list of where and how loyalty points you have with different corporations.
EDIT: I'm not being here sarcastic here :-) These changes has been on SISI for the last bunch of patches.
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Spooky Woman
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Posted - 2007.08.25 08:50:00 -
[113]
The material requirements for some T2 blueprints are changed with the patch.
Will this change affect BPC's that have already been invented, so that unused BPC made before the patch, will have their material requirements changed to the ones that the patch sets?
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Culsotu2
Danish Space bees
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Posted - 2007.08.25 08:51:00 -
[114]
Edited by: Culsotu2 on 25/08/2007 08:52:25
Thank you CCP for the NOS nerf.
...now we finaly can have some "fair" fights.
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NathanMoore
Cataclysm Enterprises
Kraftwerk.
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Posted - 2007.08.25 09:31:00 -
[115]
The Patch notes state that there is an increase in Assault Missile Flighttime, I think the idea was that the "Heavy" Assault Missiles get this boost. ;)
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Captain Agemman
Minmatar
Legio Ultra
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Posted - 2007.08.25 09:53:00 -
[116]
Originally by: NathanMoore
The Patch notes state that there is an increase in Assault Missile Flighttime, I think the idea was that the "Heavy" Assault Missiles get this boost. ;)
Heacy Assault Launchers shoot Assault Missiles.
Assault Launchers shoot Light Missiles.
Buffing Assault Missiles hit the spot dead on.
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Fandanguero
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Posted - 2007.08.25 09:59:00 -
[117]
Quote:
Caldari Navy Cloaking Device now has the proper module requirement.
If this means that CNCD will now require Prototype Cloaking Device I instead of mythic ClDev I to get it from LP Shop? If so, then i'm happy too
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Skyphox
Caldari
Stainless Steel Rats
The Immortality Project
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Posted - 2007.08.25 10:11:00 -
[118]
All looks good! Certainly with the Advanced research lab, however, still no fix for POS Copying for alliance members :(
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Ishmair
Amarr
JuBa Corp
RONA Alliance
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Posted - 2007.08.25 10:29:00 -
[119]
Nice. patch update on the day of the lunar eclipse.
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Shinhan
Phoenix Knights
Dark Nebula Galactic Empire
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Posted - 2007.08.25 10:40:00 -
[120]
Quote:
The Mining Foreman - Ice Harvesting gang link has been changed to provide a bonus to gang members mining lasers, ice harvesters and gas cloud harvesters.
Does that mean "The Mining Foreman - Ice Harvesting gang link has been changed to provide a [b]yield[/b} bonus to gang members mining lasers, ice harvesters and gas cloud harvesters." as the other two give bonus to duration and range?
If so, how will Ice Harvester yield work? If not, what are we getting bonus to?
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Posted - 2007.08.25 10:57:00 -
[121]
Originally by: CCP Wrangler
We love you too! We love you all! GROUPHUG!!!
Originally by: CAS Corp channel
* syphurous hugs hairy with his smartbomb
Freelo > a 3000m hug :-P
Freelo > smartbombs give group hugs
Smartbombing subscribers? Not too fair I think.
Hope this path will not ruine my overview presets. I just finished restoring it 12 hours ago. :-/
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Sinder Ohm
Infinite Improbability Inc
Mostly Harmless
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Posted - 2007.08.25 11:09:00 -
[122]
Rogue Drone Commander NPCs now have a chance of being found in asteroid belts & ice fields in Rogue drone regions.
Please define Commander NPC's, as in Std faction spawns, hauler spawns, Officer spawns .... like every other 0.0 region has.
and ty for showing the drone region residents some lovin
Originally by: Karanth
Wimps play empire. Real men play in 0.0. Hardcore masochists live out in drone space.
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Captain Agemman
Minmatar
Legio Ultra
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Posted - 2007.08.25 11:24:00 -
[123]
Edited by: Captain Agemman on 25/08/2007 11:24:29
Commander NPCs = "Faction Spawns". The True Sansha, Domination, Dread Gurista ones.
In this case, they are called "Sentient Rogue Drone ....", introduced last patch I think but only in exploration sites. Now also in belts etc.
They do not have drone-faction modules but give t2 salvage materials in big numbers (had 8 cap consoles from one once).
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Caol
UK Corp
FATAL Alliance
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Posted - 2007.08.25 11:33:00 -
[124]
Edited by: Caol on 25/08/2007 11:33:25
Originally by: "Patch Notes"
The Mining Foreman - Ice Harvesting gang link has been changed to provide a bonus to gang members mining lasers, ice harvesters and gas cloud harvesters.
Ah, but what is that "bonus", just says bonus...
Edit: fingers crossed its no cap use. /beg
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Sinder Ohm
Infinite Improbability Inc
Mostly Harmless
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Posted - 2007.08.25 11:36:00 -
[125]
Originally by: Captain Agemman
Edited by: Captain Agemman on 25/08/2007 11:24:29
Commander NPCs = "Faction Spawns". The True Sansha, Domination, Dread Gurista ones.
In this case, they are called "Sentient Rogue Drone ....", introduced last patch I think but only in exploration sites. Now also in belts etc.
They do not have drone-faction modules but give t2 salvage materials in big numbers (had 8 cap consoles from one once).
Thanks, but was more wondering do we also get hauler spawns and officer spawns cos if we only get faction spawns that isnt really much considering other regions have them all but at least a step in the right direction.
Originally by: Karanth
Wimps play empire. Real men play in 0.0. Hardcore masochists live out in drone space.
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n0thing
omen.
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Posted - 2007.08.25 12:50:00 -
[126]
One of best patches imo, great job CCP.
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Decairn
Caldari
Deep Core Mining Inc.
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Posted - 2007.08.25 13:22:00 -
[127]
For the love of god please fix that reset-zoom on jump bug.
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Chruker
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Posted - 2007.08.25 14:03:00 -
[128]
Originally by: Decairn
For the love of god please fix that reset-zoom on jump bug.
Come back on tuesday and apologize
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Cornucopian
Gallente
Dutch Omega
United Freemen Alliance
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Posted - 2007.08.25 14:30:00 -
[129]
instawin ubercool awesomeness:
The volume of the warp sound has been lowered!
WOOOOOOOOOT!!! and it only took 4 years!!! YAYAYAYAYAY!!! HAPPY HAPPY LUNATIC DANCE
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Selous
Ooops Inc.
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Posted - 2007.08.25 15:00:00 -
[130]
The power output of the Muninn has been increased by 60 MW.
This still does not make the muninn a proper HAC.
Every other hac has 9 or 10, med + low , slots. The muninn has 8 3meds 5 lows.
The muninn has shield tank resists but armor tank slot layouts , which means it can`t tank either very well , and certainly cant tank like any of the other HAC`s.
Some people will say its main role is as a damage dealer from a distance , but a rupture can do nearly as well for a fraction of the price , a hurricane can deal a lot more damage with a far better tank for considerably less isk and is insurable , tempest .... hardly needs saying.
Really a muninn should be given an extra slot , if given a med slot it will be a reasonable shield tanker , if given a low slot it could be setup with either decent resists or dual repper . Neither new slot layout would uberise it , just give a bit more surviveability and a role to play .
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Dei
Amarr
Guiders' Of Light
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Posted - 2007.08.25 15:27:00 -
[131]
Why didn't CCP just make the warp sound a slider? So that people can choose if they want it loud or quiet. We need more options dammit!
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Reatu Krentor
Minmatar
Void Spiders
Fate Weavers
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Posted - 2007.08.25 16:50:00 -
[132]
This patch is missing the Minmatar Carrier rebalance. The Caldari shield tanking capitals got a cpu boost but the Minmatar shield tanking capitals have the same issues too. Heck, Nid has less cpu and less grid then the Thanatos. Hel has only the same amount of cpu as the armor-tanking Nyx while having less grid then the Thanatos and the Hel is pretty clearly supposed to be shield tanking with it's 7 mids and 5 lows.
My thoughts on Damps.
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Milal Khabara
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Posted - 2007.08.25 17:25:00 -
[133]
Originally by: Helen Sobell
Originally by: Digital Anarchist
Does this patch nerf mineral compression? It's not explicit in the notes. Thanks.
no
they explicitly stated elsewhere....
Does anyone have a link to where this was stated??? I would hate it to discovere minerals on reprocessed loot where 20% less than expected tuesday night after the patch was rolled-out...
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Caol
UK Corp
FATAL Alliance
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Posted - 2007.08.25 18:00:00 -
[134]
Originally by: Milal Khabara
Originally by: Helen Sobell
Originally by: Digital Anarchist
Does this patch nerf mineral compression? It's not explicit in the notes. Thanks.
no
they explicitly stated elsewhere....
Does anyone have a link to where this was stated??? I would hate it to discovere minerals on reprocessed loot where 20% less than expected tuesday night after the patch was rolled-out...
Yep
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Roemy Schneider
BINFORD
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Posted - 2007.08.25 18:42:00 -
[135]
Edited by: Roemy Schneider on 25/08/2007 18:42:06
rant about the oneiros changes
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Balcura
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Posted - 2007.08.25 19:05:00 -
[136]
Originally by: Aysia
Ok not sure if I am missing something but all ORE barges ect in game say they have capacities to the order of a thousand, And yet in the patch it says they are being reduced to capacities in the 100 of thousands. could someone explain this?
The volumn changes are to allow the new ore cap ship to haul mining ships in the ship bay. Game play wise... relitively little effect.
Originally by: Explorers Ascendant
Im mainly confused because too many players are saying too many different things. I see it the patch notes that the ice and miing upgrades cpu and yield/duration etc are to be corrected. Corrected to what? Is the -20% ice cycle duration mining upgrade I spent a fortune on still going to be -20% or am I going to be rather annoyed? Thankyou.
As far as I've heard they should be 6%, 7%, 8% and 9% upgrades not 10%, 15%, 20% and 25% that exist now.
Originally by: Digital Anarchist
Does this patch nerf mineral compression? It's not explicit in the notes. Thanks.
Part of Rev 3.0, stated in the forums as it would disrupt 0.0 logistics in a manner too quick to adapt to. But it's still comming.
Originally by: Harper Ei
CCP Wrangler
In the patch notes it say:
"The research and invention science skills, except encryption methods, have been seeded on the market at a base price of 10 million ISK each."
Are you serious about this?
Are you aware of what this will do, not only to the markets, but to the whole gameplay per see? Have you even thought this through?
Not only will a lot of people loose a lot of money instantly. You will also make a joke out of everyone who have spent 100 mill+ for a science and research skills up until now.
All players who have yet not moved into science and research will have a huge advantage on those who have worked hard to be able to pay for expensive skills.
This is exactly what kiled Everquest2. When every player could create anything for themselves - food, clothings and armor etc - all collaboration and trade in parts and products stopped.
It is allready hard enough to make money out of invention. Now you are making it impossible. you are killing that part of the game.
H E
Grow up, they are skills in eve, they should been seeded long ago when the mission rewards stopped giving them out. The players who paid the cash (like me) still have the advantage of having all the skills to 4 and 5 that others don't... hence time in eve is better then a price cut for a skill book (as isk = time and thats about it)
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Posted - 2007.08.25 19:38:00 -
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So now that alot of players have bought the high end mining and ice mining upgrades for extortionate amount of isk that to be honest is bang out fo order now 1-2 weeks later its going to be nerfed. I am really pied about this especially if noone is going to be compensated as some have spent over 500-1 billion isk per mining and ice mining upgrade and even spent real money on GTC to buy them.
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Tommy TenKreds
Animal Mercantile Executive
Animal.
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Posted - 2007.08.25 19:56:00 -
[138]
Edited by: Tommy TenKreds on 25/08/2007 19:59:43
Originally by: Patchnotes
LP Store
* Adjustments to the price / items / LP required for some items, to bring them in line with market value.
This is almost certainly the wrong way to go.
If you reduce the ISK requirement for items, the market price will drop accordingly.
If you raise the ISK requirement, the market price may rise, but most likely will not, since demand for many LP store items is being more than met by supply from other sources (mission rewards etc).
Since the market price will vary with supply and demand, it is pointless (and potentially damaging) to adjust the base price to match the market price.
Instead, you should be removing supply from sources other than the LP store, so that supply can be entirely player determined and market prices can stabilize above the base prices set by the LP store, at a level reflecting the current value of LP.
Other than that, great looking patch.
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Chruker
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Posted - 2007.08.25 20:48:00 -
[139]
Originally by: Balcura
Originally by: Explorers Ascendant
Im mainly confused because too many players are saying too many different things. I see it the patch notes that the ice and miing upgrades cpu and yield/duration etc are to be corrected. Corrected to what? Is the -20% ice cycle duration mining upgrade I spent a fortune on still going to be -20% or am I going to be rather annoyed? Thankyou.
As far as I've heard they should be 6%, 7%, 8% and 9% upgrades not 10%, 15%, 20% and 25% that exist now.
Here are their new stats: http://games.chruker.dk/eve_online/new_items.php
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- No daily downtime
- Faster training on sisi
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CCP Greyscale
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Posted - 2007.08.25 22:31:00 -
[140]
Originally by: STLEM2
How long before we get patchnotes 'capital ships cannot enter POS's' :o
Actually, that's not a bad idea...*
Originally by: Fandanguero
Quote:
Caldari Navy Cloaking Device now has the proper module requirement.
If this means that CNCD will now require Prototype Cloaking Device I instead of mythic ClDev I to get it from LP Shop? If so, then i'm happy too
Yes
Originally by: Tommy TenKreds
Originally by: Patchnotes
LP Store
* Adjustments to the price / items / LP required for some items, to bring them in line with market value.
This is almost certainly the wrong way to go.
If you reduce the ISK requirement for items, the market price will drop accordingly.
If you raise the ISK requirement, the market price may rise, but most likely will not, since demand for many LP store items is being more than met by supply from other sources (mission rewards etc).
Since the market price will vary with supply and demand, it is pointless (and potentially damaging) to adjust the base price to match the market price.
Instead, you should be removing supply from sources other than the LP store, so that supply can be entirely player determined and market prices can stabilize above the base prices set by the LP store, at a level reflecting the current value of LP.
Other than that, great looking patch.
I'd have to check to be certain, but I'm pretty sure that all the changes made to prices were to bring them in line with what we originally intended (ie, minor bugfixing) rather than trying to fine-tune prices by player market value. LP/Isk/Tag cost were all generated using an equation we cooked up, with a bit of variable-tweak to avoid crashing the prices on certain items.
* This is a joke, please don't hurt me...
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LvxOccvlta
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Posted - 2007.08.26 00:14:00 -
[141]
Edited by: LvxOccvlta on 26/08/2007 00:17:40
Hey CCP, remember that NOS/Khanid Changes thread you started asking for our input? We gave you 57 pages with tons of alternatives to nerfing NOS the way you proposed. Without acknowledging that you even read the thread, and by going ahead and implementing those changes you originally proposed, it leaves some of us wondering if you even really cared for our opinions at all. If you believe these changes are for the best, then fine-- but it would have been great to your responses to those alternative solutions.
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Chruker
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Posted - 2007.08.26 00:48:00 -
[142]
Originally by: LvxOccvlta
Edited by: LvxOccvlta on 26/08/2007 00:17:40
Hey CCP, remember that NOS/Khanid Changes thread you started asking for our input? We gave you 57 pages with tons of alternatives to nerfing NOS the way you proposed. Without acknowledging that you even read the thread, and by going ahead and implementing those changes you originally proposed, it leaves some of us wondering if you even really cared for our opinions at all. If you believe these changes are for the best, then fine-- but it would have been great to your responses to those alternative solutions.
I hope you someday will realize that those changes they 'proposed' had already been implemented or were being finalized when he started that thread.
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- Faster training on sisi
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LvxOccvlta
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Posted - 2007.08.26 00:52:00 -
[143]
Originally by: Chruker
I hope you someday will realize that those changes they 'proposed' had already been implemented or were being finalized when he started that thread.
FYI, I realized that before you came in here to belittle me. Try reading between the lines of my post. It's a little higher form of communication than you are used to, but you seem smart enough to get it (with a little help).
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Nuttsauce
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Posted - 2007.08.26 02:27:00 -
[144]
So where's the grid increase for the pilgrim and the revised fitting requirements for the neutralizers. Or has all of this been shafted. If so I better bite the bullet and sell my baby for ever I can get for her now. Hopefully to someone that isn't aware of the nos nerf.... yes people like these do exist :)
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Echtra
Gallente
World Order
The Imperial Order
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Posted - 2007.08.26 03:44:00 -
[145]
I didn't see anything in the Patch notes about fixing exploration in the drone regions.
Are we still stuck with no access to Hackng and ArcSal exploration?
Ech
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Cyan Nuevo
Dudes In Crazy Killing Ships
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Posted - 2007.08.26 04:07:00 -
[146]
Originally by: LvxOccvlta
FYI, I realized that before you came in here to belittle me. Try reading between the lines of my post.
I don't really think he belittled you... but I can! The alternative suggestions sucked, this is a very good fix to the nos problem.
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MellaRinn
Veto.
Veto Corp
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Posted - 2007.08.26 04:14:00 -
[147]
Quote:
Invention of some Tech 2 ammunition types has been corrected, as they were variants of the wrong type of Tech 1 ammunition.
* Spike is now a Plutonium variant.
Shouldn't Spike be Iridium and Javelin - Plutonium? 
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Roninwolfie
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Posted - 2007.08.26 05:15:00 -
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wow you guys are going ahead with the bad nos nerf after there has been around 57 pages in the thread you started about it an suggested 10000 times better ideas then the stupid one on test ??
so did some of the guys at SOE get jobs over there or something ?
why start a thread then ignore it ???
http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=566234&page=57
read my post at 1703 , them ideas people came up with are much better then what you put on test center.
has there been any testing too see how much extra lag this patch will cause or are u guys just crossing your fingers 
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Cyan Nuevo
Dudes In Crazy Killing Ships
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Posted - 2007.08.26 06:29:00 -
[149]
Wow, Robin, your post is brilliant. I think it has all the necessary requirements:
- CCP turning into SOE reference: Check!
- "Paying customers": Check!
- Some gibberish that only makes sense to you: Check!
- Crap suggestions made, assuming that you are obviously smarter than professional game designers: Check!
- The "I'm such-and-such in RL" comment, validating your opinions: Dang, missing that I think. Oh well.
And I am actually sorry if this is too "flaming"--it really is 2 AM here, too!
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Ebodhisatva
Gallente
hunter killers
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Posted - 2007.08.26 07:42:00 -
[150]
Edited by: Ebodhisatva on 26/08/2007 07:50:17
Quote:
Low security space and 0.0 areas now have 50% more Encounters per system.
Low sec Encounter sites are now generally more difficult, and have better rewards as a result.
Does this mean the belts will be fuller and respawn faster?
or is it just the exploration sites?
Edit: Define encounter, if you encounter NPC's in belts, does this count also?
thnx in advance
Originally by: CCP Prism X
You wont have any LPs. You need LPs with said Corp and like I said I just nuked your LPs.
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Roninwolfie
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Posted - 2007.08.26 08:06:00 -
[151]
Originally by: Cyan Nuevo
Edited by: Cyan Nuevo on 26/08/2007 06:34:21
Wow, Ronin, your post is brilliant. I think it has all the necessary requirements:
- CCP turning into SOE reference: Check!
- "Paying customers": Check!
- Some gibberish that only makes sense to you: Check!
- Crap suggestions made, assuming that you are obviously smarter than professional game designers: Check!
- The "I'm such-and-such in RL" comment, validating your opinions: Dang, missing that I think. Oh well.
And I am actually sorry if this is too "flaming"--it really is 2 AM here, too!
all i can say is WTF lol
right an them suggestions are worse then the ******** idea you seem to like thats on test an the devs are shoving down our throats regardless of how stupid it is ? right
plus i never came up with them others did in that thread the devs ignored after seeing the outrage.
dude i never claimed i'm anything but you seem to think you are the **** lol
an what i ment from the SOE remark was SOE never gave a dam about what any of the paying customers wanted an did there own thing an look how they ended up , as a laughing stock of the mmo devs.
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Sinder Ohm
Infinite Improbability Inc
Mostly Harmless
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Posted - 2007.08.26 08:59:00 -
[152]
Originally by: Echtra
I didn't see anything in the Patch notes about fixing exploration in the drone regions.
Are we still stuck with no access to Hackng and ArcSal exploration?
Ech
QFT Yeah understood we were getting this too, and whats with the commander spawns ??? WHAT ARE WE GETTING ??? if it is just faction spawns or officer or hauler ....no answer yet to either of the drone region questions... I really do try being patient but it satrting to **** me off how we are being treated
Originally by: Karanth
Wimps play empire. Real men play in 0.0. Hardcore masochists live out in drone space.
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CCP Greyscale
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Posted - 2007.08.26 10:27:00 -
[153]
Originally by: Ebodhisatva
Edited by: Ebodhisatva on 26/08/2007 07:50:17
Quote:
Low security space and 0.0 areas now have 50% more Encounters per system.
Low sec Encounter sites are now generally more difficult, and have better rewards as a result.
Does this mean the belts will be fuller and respawn faster?
or is it just the exploration sites?
Edit: Define encounter, if you encounter NPC's in belts, does this count also?
thnx in advance
Encounter = low-strength exploration site introduced in Revelations 2
Originally by: Sinder Ohm
QFT Yeah understood we were getting this too, and whats with the commander spawns ??? WHAT ARE WE GETTING ??? if it is just faction spawns or officer or hauler ....no answer yet to either of the drone region questions... I really do try being patient but it satrting to **** me off how we are being treated
As someone else accurately explained on the last page, you have the following types of asteroid belt spawn:
Guristas XYZ = Normal spawn
Guristas Hauler = Hauler spawn
Dire Guristas = Elite spawn
Dread Guristas XYZ = Commander spawn
Estamel Whatsisface = Officer spawn
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Deus eggs
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Posted - 2007.08.26 11:48:00 -
[154]
I don't think it can be said often enough that this patch looks absolutely excellent. CCP has really listened, thank you :)
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LvxOccvlta
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Posted - 2007.08.26 12:23:00 -
[155]
Edited by: LvxOccvlta on 26/08/2007 12:23:32
Will there be anything done to save the Pilgrim (and the Curse)? :(
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Ebodhisatva
Gallente
hunter killers
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Posted - 2007.08.26 14:56:00 -
[156]
Quote:
Corpses, Wrecks and cans have had their properties adjusted so that ships will pass straight through them.
Now really, looting with a BS/CS will be a tough cookie, it will always be a giant flyby to get some loot, unless you stick a tractor beam up in high.
I wonder if you guys have considered a +5km to open up a can?
Originally by: CCP Prism X
You wont have any LPs. You need LPs with said Corp and like I said I just nuked your LPs.
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Tidas Andrommeda
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Posted - 2007.08.26 15:15:00 -
[157]
Originally by: Roninwolfie
Originally by: Cyan Nuevo
Edited by: Cyan Nuevo on 26/08/2007 06:34:21
Wow, Ronin, your post is brilliant. I think it has all the necessary requirements:
- CCP turning into SOE reference: Check!
- "Paying customers": Check!
- Some gibberish that only makes sense to you: Check!
- Crap suggestions made, assuming that you are obviously smarter than professional game designers: Check!
- The "I'm such-and-such in RL" comment, validating your opinions: Dang, missing that I think. Oh well.
And I am actually sorry if this is too "flaming"--it really is 2 AM here, too!
all i can say is WTF lol
right an them suggestions are worse then the ******** idea you seem to like thats on test an the devs are shoving down our throats regardless of how stupid it is ? right
plus i never came up with them others did in that thread the devs ignored after seeing the outrage.
dude i never claimed i'm anything but you seem to think you are the **** lol
an what i ment from the SOE remark was SOE never gave a dam about what any of the paying customers wanted an did there own thing an look how they ended up , as a laughing stock of the mmo devs.
...And your respectability drops by another 40 points...
#1 They are worse because they keep the Nos acting as a Neut. Aka, they don't fulfill that whole "bring neuts to be useful again" thing that the devs were aiming for.
#2 If outrage = "OMGWTFBBQ THEY TAKIN MY PWNAGE!!1!!!!!111!!" then I would ignore it to. The ONLY people complaining are those that either 1) can't understand that this is better for Amarr or 2) got their pwnage nos-to-death setups hit and are unwilling to be adult and actually try to come up with some other pwnage setup.
#3 He never claimed you claimed that. Last I checked, "missing" meant that it wasn't there. Hes using sarcasm (use a dictionary since you don't seem to know what it is) by saying every whiner in this post has done one, if not all, of the things on that list.
#4 SOE employees play game? No. CCP employees play game? Yes.
SOE changed things that literally EVERYONE didn't like? Yes. CCP (copy-paste)? Obviously not if theres so many of us trying to squelch the stupidity coming from the mouths of the ignorant masses. (Insert your name here, among others)
And its 11AM here, I hope this is a flame. In fact, I intend it to completely burn all the idiocy off of these threads.
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Tidas Andrommeda
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Posted - 2007.08.26 15:20:00 -
[158]
Originally by: LvxOccvlta
Edited by: LvxOccvlta on 26/08/2007 12:23:32
Will there be anything done to save the Pilgrim (and the Curse)? :(
Yea there are plans to change the bonuses to include the neut so that it will still be effective as an energy killing machine. They're also looking at reducing fitting reqs for the neut to bring it closer to Nos. They know its not perfect. Don't worry!
Contrary to popular belief, CCP has your back
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Tidas Andrommeda
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Posted - 2007.08.26 15:25:00 -
[159]
Quote:
Exploration sites of the encounter type have had their scan category, or signature type, changed to Cosmic Anomaly, to help differentiate them from other types of exploration sites. The on-board scanner has been adjusted accordingly and now can now only scan for Cosmic Anomalies.
This means that we won't pick up encounters on the multispec anymore? (Assuming we don't include "cosmic anomaly" in our scan categories.)
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Roninwolfie
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Posted - 2007.08.26 15:57:00 -
[160]
Originally by: Tidas Andrommeda
Originally by: Roninwolfie
Originally by: Cyan Nuevo
Edited by: Cyan Nuevo on 26/08/2007 06:34:21
Wow, Ronin, your post is brilliant. I think it has all the necessary requirements:
- CCP turning into SOE reference: Check!
- "Paying customers": Check!
- Some gibberish that only makes sense to you: Check!
- Crap suggestions made, assuming that you are obviously smarter than professional game designers: Check!
- The "I'm such-and-such in RL" comment, validating your opinions: Dang, missing that I think. Oh well.
And I am actually sorry if this is too "flaming"--it really is 2 AM here, too!
all i can say is WTF lol
right an them suggestions are worse then the ******** idea you seem to like thats on test an the devs are shoving down our throats regardless of how stupid it is ? right
plus i never came up with them others did in that thread the devs ignored after seeing the outrage.
dude i never claimed i'm anything but you seem to think you are the **** lol
an what i ment from the SOE remark was SOE never gave a dam about what any of the paying customers wanted an did there own thing an look how they ended up , as a laughing stock of the mmo devs.
...And your respectability drops by another 40 points...
#1 They are worse because they keep the Nos acting as a Neut. Aka, they don't fulfill that whole "bring neuts to be useful again" thing that the devs were aiming for.
#2 If outrage = "OMGWTFBBQ THEY TAKIN MY PWNAGE!!1!!!!!111!!" then I would ignore it to. The ONLY people complaining are those that either 1) can't understand that this is better for Amarr or 2) got their pwnage nos-to-death setups hit and are unwilling to be adult and actually try to come up with some other pwnage setup.
#3 He never claimed you claimed that. Last I checked, "missing" meant that it wasn't there. Hes using sarcasm (use a dictionary since you don't seem to know what it is) by saying every whiner in this post has done one, if not all, of the things on that list.
#4 SOE employees play game? No. CCP employees play game? Yes.
SOE changed things that literally EVERYONE didn't like? Yes. CCP (copy-paste)? Obviously not if theres so many of us trying to squelch the stupidity coming from the mouths of the ignorant masses. (Insert your name here, among others)
And its 11AM here, I hope this is a flame. In fact, I intend it to completely burn all the idiocy off of these threads.
i take it you never looked at the other 3 ideas people put up in that thread the devs are ignoring ?
ok you spewed that they want to do it for the neuts ok how about the sig bonus where after each nos is fitted you get increases of 400% or more to stop the nos domis everyones so worryed about an fitting nuets don't matter.
An for the record i hardly pvp so you claiming my ,how you put it OMGWTFBBQPWNMOBILE is now screwed i only use my domi for missioning an dont give 2 fraks about pvp but what i wanted if for my mission running setup not to be fraked with because people like you cry like a little redheaded stepchild an cry nerf nerf nerf i got pwned in my uber command ship by a nos domis, when all was needed was stacking an tracking added to them or sig radius hell even nos hardpoints on all ships.
you spewed...Obviously not if theres so many of us trying to squelch the stupidity coming from the mouths of the ignorant masses. (Insert your name here, among others)
right me trying to get the devs to respond to to some sensible ideas the community gave is stupid even tho the dam mod has been in the game for how long ? an its called a energy vampire meaning leeching life not what they described , what do you think a vampire is ?
its like a vamp sucking your blood but only so you have the same level in your systems not draining you dry an filling up at the same time lol.
can we at least get the devs to rename it to something else ? how about care bear module
an its 2am atm
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CCP Greyscale
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Posted - 2007.08.26 16:08:00 -
[161]
Originally by: Ikkajo
Felysta, there's an entry in the patch notes about seeding the skillbooks. Looks like a direct copy of the Chronotis devblog quote.
Question for Devs:
Patch notes say the Yeti BX-2 is now going to Cybernetics V for requirements. What happens to those of us that don't have that right now but have the implant installed in one of our clones, or in our active clone? Is the effect just ignored for the active clone until we get lvl 5? Is our jump clones disabled until we get the skill trained up or can we still jump to it, but have the implant effect disabled?
I just tested this - if you already have the implant plugged in, it should just work, even if you clone jump around a bit.
Originally by: Tidas Andrommeda
Quote:
Exploration sites of the encounter type have had their scan category, or signature type, changed to Cosmic Anomaly, to help differentiate them from other types of exploration sites. The on-board scanner has been adjusted accordingly and now can now only scan for Cosmic Anomalies.
This means that we won't pick up encounters on the multispec anymore? (Assuming we don't include "cosmic anomaly" in our scan categories.)
Yes
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Tidas Andrommeda
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Posted - 2007.08.26 16:15:00 -
[162]
Originally by: Roninwolfie
i take it you never looked at the other 3 ideas people put up in that thread the devs are ignoring ?
ok you spewed that they want to do it for the neuts ok how about the sig bonus where after each nos is fitted you get increases of 400% or more to stop the nos domis everyones so worryed about an fitting nuets don't matter.
An for the record i hardly pvp so you claiming my ,how you put it OMGWTFBBQPWNMOBILE is now screwed i only use my domi for missioning an dont give 2 fraks about pvp but what i wanted if for my mission running setup not to be fraked with because people like you cry like a little redheaded stepchild an cry nerf nerf nerf i got pwned in my uber command ship by a nos domis, when all was needed was stacking an tracking added to them or sig radius hell even nos hardpoints on all ships.
you spewed...Obviously not if theres so many of us trying to squelch the stupidity coming from the mouths of the ignorant masses. (Insert your name here, among others)
right me trying to get the devs to respond to to some sensible ideas the community gave is stupid even tho the dam mod has been in the game for how long ? an its called a energy vampire meaning leeching life not what they described , what do you think a vampire is ?
its like a vamp sucking your blood but only so you have the same level in your systems not draining you dry an filling up at the same time lol.
can we at least get the devs to rename it to something else ? how about care bear mod
Sigh. And you're still incompetent :(.
Yes I did and none work. That sig radius is a horrible plan as it doesn't do anything. They did the same to LSEII and oh wow look, I don't think the number of uber shield tank Drakes or Myrmis dropping at all. The sig radius increas for MWDs is 600% for some 10MN versions. Do they still get fit? Of course.
Sig radius idea: inviable and only caters to those who want to keep nos as it is but make it look like something was done.
As far as I know PvE has not changed at all with this nos fix so what are you complaining about then?
I'm sorry but your ideas are not sensible. They are in fact senseless whinings from someone who doesn't know much at all. The nos fix actually fixes the problem instead of all your "less ********" ideas which just cover it up.
Learn some physics about capacitors. If you connect 2 by a wire they equal out. If you want to suck more out you need to expend energy to do so.
Oh and vampires are technically already dead, so they suck your life to their equivilant: death.
If you want to NEUTRALIZE an enemies capacitor you should use a NEUTRALIZER. You know, kinda like if you wanna refrigerate something you use a refrigerater.
Now go troll another thread or come up with something that actually makes sense.
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Tidas Andrommeda
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Posted - 2007.08.26 16:16:00 -
[163]
Originally by: CCP Greyscale
Originally by: Tidas Andrommeda
Quote:
Exploration sites of the encounter type have had their scan category, or signature type, changed to Cosmic Anomaly, to help differentiate them from other types of exploration sites. The on-board scanner has been adjusted accordingly and now can now only scan for Cosmic Anomalies.
This means that we won't pick up encounters on the multispec anymore? (Assuming we don't include "cosmic anomaly" in our scan categories.)
Yes
YAY! :D
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Roninwolfie
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Posted - 2007.08.26 16:36:00 -
[164]
Originally by: Tidas Andrommeda
Sigh. And you're still incompetent :(.
Yes I did and none work. That sig radius is a horrible plan as it doesn't do anything. They did the same to LSEII and oh wow look, I don't think the number of uber shield tank Drakes or Myrmis dropping at all. The sig radius increas for MWDs is 600% for some 10MN versions. Do they still get fit? Of course.
Sig radius idea: inviable and only caters to those who want to keep nos as it is but make it look like something was done.
As far as I know PvE has not changed at all with this nos fix so what are you complaining about then?
I'm sorry but your ideas are not sensible. They are in fact senseless whinings from someone who doesn't know much at all. The nos fix actually fixes the problem instead of all your "less ********" ideas which just cover it up.
Learn some physics about capacitors. If you connect 2 by a wire they equal out. If you want to suck more out you need to expend energy to do so.
Oh and vampires are technically already dead, so they suck your life to their equivilant: death.
If you want to NEUTRALIZE an enemies capacitor you should use a NEUTRALIZER. You know, kinda like if you wanna refrigerate something you use a refrigerater.
Now go troll another thread or come up with something that actually makes sense.
ok if u fitted 4 nos be it L M or S u have a sig of 3500 or more , so people will get perfect hits on you no matter what.
there not my ideas but i would like someone qualified to answer why they don't like them not some rabbid fanboi
ok u fit 3 L/m/s nos an the stacking penalty makes it so u only have 1 fitted an u miss a hell of a lot more with the tracking added to it, so if you only had 1 fitted u wouldn't be affected
ok nos hard points which you seems to have missed , all ships besides amarr only have 1 nos hard point most amarr ships have 2 an the recons have 3. with tracking added
can you answer them with out trolling my post ?
Oh and vampires are technically already dead, so they suck your life to their equivilant: death. thats just lame man lol try better.
an from what i was told yes rats are going to be affected
an now its 230am
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Rooster
Amarr
Organized Combat Consortium
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Posted - 2007.08.26 17:10:00 -
[165]
Please don't turn the Malediction into a rocket/missile frig... keep the turrets the same.
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Tidas Andrommeda
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Posted - 2007.08.26 17:14:00 -
[166]
Originally by: Roninwolfie
Originally by: Tidas Andrommeda
Sigh. And you're still incompetent :(.
Yes I did and none work. That sig radius is a horrible plan as it doesn't do anything. They did the same to LSEII and oh wow look, I don't think the number of uber shield tank Drakes or Myrmis dropping at all. The sig radius increas for MWDs is 600% for some 10MN versions. Do they still get fit? Of course.
Sig radius idea: inviable and only caters to those who want to keep nos as it is but make it look like something was done.
As far as I know PvE has not changed at all with this nos fix so what are you complaining about then?
I'm sorry but your ideas are not sensible. They are in fact senseless whinings from someone who doesn't know much at all. The nos fix actually fixes the problem instead of all your "less ********" ideas which just cover it up.
Learn some physics about capacitors. If you connect 2 by a wire they equal out. If you want to suck more out you need to expend energy to do so.
Oh and vampires are technically already dead, so they suck your life to their equivilant: death.
If you want to NEUTRALIZE an enemies capacitor you should use a NEUTRALIZER. You know, kinda like if you wanna refrigerate something you use a refrigerater.
Now go troll another thread or come up with something that actually makes sense.
ok if u fitted 4 nos be it L M or S u have a sig of 3500 or more , so people will get perfect hits on you no matter what.
there not my ideas but i would like someone qualified to answer why they don't like them not some rabbid fanboi
ok u fit 3 L/m/s nos an the stacking penalty makes it so u only have 1 fitted an u miss a hell of a lot more with the tracking added to it, so if you only had 1 fitted u wouldn't be affected
ok nos hard points which you seems to have missed , all ships besides amarr only have 1 nos hard point most amarr ships have 2 an the recons have 3. with tracking added
can you answer them with out trolling my post ?
Oh and vampires are technically already dead, so they suck your life to their equivilant: death. thats just lame man lol try better.
an from what i was told yes rats are going to be affected
an now its 230am
Its hard not to troll a trolls post :/
None of those fixes, as I already stated, solve the problem of a Nos acting like a Neut.
If you can give me one that stops the Nos acting like a Neut then you get a cookie and actually have a good idea for a possible fix for once.
You were the one that brought up the vamp thing to begin with. Countering lame with lame was always the best way to go.
And please read the actual physics explanation of how this stuff works (or what CCP is basing it off of anyway). Not any RP stuff but actual RL physics.
From what I've done on Sisi my PvE ships that depend on Nos have done just as well as they did pre-patch. So don't worry about that :D
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Bein Glorious
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.08.26 17:21:00 -
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Why isn't the Zealot buff listed in the patch notes..?  |
DarkZombie
Imminent Darkness
Fluff Bites
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Posted - 2007.08.26 18:37:00 -
[168]
Are new alliance logo's going to be added in this patch ?
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Cyan Nuevo
Dudes In Crazy Killing Ships
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Posted - 2007.08.26 18:44:00 -
[169]
Originally by: Roninwolfie
An for the record i hardly pvp
Ahhh, OK.
Originally by: Tidas Andrommeda
Yea there are plans to change the bonuses to include the neut so that it will still be effective as an energy killing machine. They're also looking at reducing fitting reqs for the neut to bring it closer to Nos. They know its not perfect. Don't worry!
Actually Pilgrims and Curses have always had a neut bonus, it's the Blood ships that are getting them. And neuts had the same PG requirements as noses the last time I checked Singularity.
The PvE issue is actually the one thing that I dislike about this change, as Nosferatu will now only give you cap and not decrease the NPC's chance of repping. This is just because it hurts me, however, it still makes sense. But I've now replaced my nos on my Abaddon with another laser... and it's even more effective than before!
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Proud Amarr pilot.
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Sinder Ohm
Infinite Improbability Inc
Mostly Harmless
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Posted - 2007.08.26 21:05:00 -
[170]
Thankyou greyscale for the reply on page 6 I do apreciate it (I may have misunderstood commander spawn), is there anything on the drawing board for drone hauler spawns and such.
Sinder
Originally by: Karanth
Wimps play empire. Real men play in 0.0. Hardcore masochists live out in drone space.
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Posted - 2007.08.26 21:07:00 -
[171]
Including the changes to the Khanid, NosferatuYARRRR!!, Rorqual, as well as all the powergrid and CPU balancing as well as the sig increase of cap ships here are the key points*:
-Mining crystals are now inventible and the Tech II symbol is now displaying correctly on the Tech II variant icons.
--Lots of people have asked for them to be inventible and even more newbies.
-Invention of Tech 2 Mining Laser Upgrade and Ice Harvester Upgrades is now possible.
--It has been broken forever, rejoice and pray to your deity Chribba.
-Asteroids are now easier to target. You can now click anywhere on the asteroid to select it instead of needing to click its center.
--More miner love.ugh
-The volume of the warp sound has been lowered!
--Try turning your sound on again!
-Minmatar corporations now have access to missing factional Carbonized Lead and Depleted Uranium ammunition.
--Soon to be a favorite among the projectile using population.YARRRR!!
--Remember that the compression BPO's will require no research because of a wastage factor of 0.
--YARRRR!!There is a lot of love for non pvp in these patch notes but remember that pvp usually gets all the love and the next patch notes will be that much more pvp focused.
*Look up my points on all the other changes in their respective dev blogs linked here for build 36167
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devs and gms cant modify my sig if they tried!
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CCP Morpheus was here 
Morpheus Fails. You need colors!! -Kaemonn
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Gallente
Old Farts
Imperial Republic Of the North
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Posted - 2007.08.26 21:18:00 -
[172]
"Rogue Drone Commander NPCs now have a chance of being found in asteroid belts & ice fields in Rogue drone regions."
Will these "drone commanders" still drop alloys or actualy "commander" modules n' stuff?
Just wondering if the drone regions actually gets the well needed help. PLEASE GIVE US SECURITY STATUS SO WE DONT HAVE TO RUN 20 JUMPS TO GET IS POSITIVE CCP YOU WACKOES !
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Posted - 2007.08.26 22:07:00 -
[173]
Only a question here really - and no, I haven't trolled all the posts so this may have already been answered..... I also realize it's probably to late to change the change coming...
Q: With regards to the damnation - will the other races be forced to use weapons that are NOT their racial weapons when it comes to fleet command ships? EX: Caldari - forced to use lasers, Gallente - forced to use projectile, Minmatar - forced to use Hybrids. If not - why is it that ONLY the Amarr Fleet Command ship is being forced to do so? At the very least - put the high slot fittings back so Amarr pilots, focused on AMARR weapons (Lasers) can keep fitting what they've trained for and NOT be FORCED to learn another races weapons.
I understand the tank is marginally better (not sure yet HOW much better), but really - to be forced into learning another race's weapon systems and all the underlying things that go with it to make it half-way effective? As no other race is being put through the same thing - will they be so forced in the future?
If Amarr are just the first (embracing their enemies weapons/tactices to be used against them) is fine, as long as the OTHER races also go through the same "revelation". Yes - each race has it's specialty and that specialty can and maybe should be investigated by the others. However, to ONLY force one race to do so is unfair to that race's pilots.
course - even if the gun races are forced to use other gun races, the gun bonuses still help..(trajectory analysis, surgical strike etc) where as Laser Guns to Missiles encompasses a whole new line of "secondary" skills.
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Borasao
Ex Coelis
Hydra Alliance
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Posted - 2007.08.26 22:28:00 -
[174]
Quote:
ok you spewed that they want to do it for the neuts ok how about the sig bonus where after each nos is fitted you get increases of 400% or more to stop the nos domis everyones so worryed about an fitting nuets don't matter.
Increasing the sig of the ship with NOS? That seems... irrelevant. DomiNOS won't care. It'd destroy the Curse/Pilgrim because torps would do full damage (assuming they could catch it). Stupid idea.
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An for the record i hardly pvp so you claiming my ,how you put it OMGWTFBBQPWNMOBILE is now screwed i only use my domi for missioning
Then you shouldn't care... there are tons of other very successful missioning setups for Dominix.
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an dont give 2 fraks about pvp but what i wanted if for my mission running setup not to be fraked with because people like you cry like a little redheaded stepchild an cry nerf nerf nerf i got pwned in my uber command ship by a nos domis, when all was needed was stacking an tracking added to them or sig radius hell even nos hardpoints on all ships.
Stacking penalties for NOS aren't that great of an idea either... Curse/Pilgrim would be hit hard (yet again). Destroying the capacitor charge isn't like dampening or slowing down something... it's actual destruction. Should guns also have a stacking penalty? Stacking penalties don't make sense, stupid idea.
Tracking on NOS? That just makes everyone (well... the few who don't run them now) run nano setups. Stupid idea.
Signature radius effects... This doesn't keep the Curse/Pilgrim from killing ships much larger than is sensible. Meanwhile, depending on just how bad they are, completely kills any reason to use NOS on large ships. Your precious DomiNOS is again worthless. This idea was proposed by FOTM Curse/Pilgrim pilots to weaken heavy NOS against them while their medium NOS would be unchanged against the battleships... making them even *more* able to kill battleships than before. It does have the effect of making heavy NOS weak against interceptors but that's just a lucky side benefit.
NOS Hardpoints... Currently there are only three types of hardpoints in the system... turret, missile, and neither. Not only would the entire database require fixing but more than a little game logic would also have to be changed to support a new type of hardpoint. Every ship's data *in the game* would have to be analyzed to determine how many points it should have (if any), and every ship's data would have to be modified. It also sets a dangerous precident... should we evaluate every ship to determine exactly how many of every type of module in the game it should be able to mount? Regardless, your precious DomiNOS would be trashed again when it was decide that it should have 0, 1, or at most 2 NOS hardpoints.
Because of the power of NOS in the game, any/all changes to it is going to **** off FOTM pilots. So, the devs decided to *really* fix it by making it a defensive weapon and the NEUT into the true offensive weapon.
If it really screws you up that bad... can I have your stuff?
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Q: With regards to the damnation - will the other races be forced to use weapons that are NOT their racial weapons when it comes to fleet command ships? EX: Caldari - forced to use lasers, Gallente - forced to use projectile, Minmatar - forced to use Hybrids. If not - why is it that ONLY the Amarr Fleet Command ship is being forced to do so? At the very least - put the high slot fittings back so Amarr pilots, focused on AMARR weapons (Lasers) can keep fitting what they've trained for and NOT be FORCED to learn another races weapons.
The Damnation is build by Khanid. Khanid (as now are defined) use Caldari missiles and Amarr armor. Plus, according to the patch notes, all the Khanid ships now retain their turret hardpoints but receive no bonuses for them so you can continue to use lasers on them (or projectiles or hybrids), if you want.
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Borasao
Ex Coelis
Hydra Alliance
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Posted - 2007.08.26 22:28:00 -
[175]
[continued from above because of character count limit]
Khanid changes are great for Amarr... it gives them something new, although weapon dichotomy for a race is not new (Caldari have hybrid ships and missile ships, for example). Many already cross-trained pilots, like myself, can't wait for the changes to go live. Many Caldari are also excited because they will cross train (if they haven't started already) to have another flavor of ships available to them (arguably more suitable to pvp). Many laser-only Amarr are also excited and have been training missiles since the changes were announced. For them, they'll also be able to cross train to Caldari ships easier and have the best PvE ships in the game.
If you just can't stand it that many, many players will enjoy these new ships, can I have your stuff?
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Pugnent Dillema
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Posted - 2007.08.26 23:38:00 -
[176]
I have a very important question:
If I buy a ship RIGHT NOW that is being changed in the patch on Tuesday, like the Sacrilege for instance.
Will my new Sacrilege be automatically changed (more laucher points) once the patch arrives to reflect the new changes?
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Siege
Minmatar
Siegecraft Bounty Hunting
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Posted - 2007.08.26 23:48:00 -
[177]
Originally by: Ashkida
Only a question here really - and no, I haven't trolled all the posts so this may have already been answered..... I also realize it's probably to late to change the change coming...
Q: With regards to the damnation - will the other races be forced to use weapons that are NOT their racial weapons when it comes to fleet command ships? EX: Caldari - forced to use lasers, Gallente - forced to use projectile, Minmatar - forced to use Hybrids. If not - why is it that ONLY the Amarr Fleet Command ship is being forced to do so? At the very least - put the high slot fittings back so Amarr pilots, focused on AMARR weapons (Lasers) can keep fitting what they've trained for and NOT be FORCED to learn another races weapons.
Actually, most other races have already been through this at least onces. The Caldari, the missle spammers, got a rail-boat for their Tier 3 battleship. Gallente have a mixture of drone heavy and hybrid heavy ships. And Minmatar? I have to train projectiles and missles for almost every single Minmatar ship from frigates up to battleships. And for a lot of them, I also need drones too. So I have three totally different weapon skill sets to train, none of which overlap the other.
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Siege
Minmatar
Siegecraft Bounty Hunting
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Posted - 2007.08.26 23:49:00 -
[178]
Originally by: Pugnent Dillema
I have a very important question:
If I buy a ship RIGHT NOW that is being changed in the patch on Tuesday, like the Sacrilege for instance.
Will my new Sacrilege be automatically changed (more laucher points) once the patch arrives to reflect the new changes?
Yes, all items in-game will be updated to the newer varients.
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Tommy TenKreds
Animal Mercantile Executive
Animal.
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Posted - 2007.08.27 00:38:00 -
[179]
Originally by: CCP Greyscale
I'd have to check to be certain, but I'm pretty sure that all the changes made to prices were to bring them in line with what we originally intended (ie, minor bugfixing) rather than trying to fine-tune prices by player market value. LP/Isk/Tag cost were all generated using an equation we cooked up, with a bit of variable-tweak to avoid crashing the prices on certain items.
Thanks for that reply, Greyscale. I'll reserve further comment 'til I see what changes have been made.
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LvxOccvlta
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Posted - 2007.08.27 01:08:00 -
[180]
To fix the pilgrim and curse, give them both a meager, but negative capacitor cost to neutralizers. This would effectively raise cap to the pilgrim and curse when the neuts are engaged on a target ship, thus allowing them to power the modules.
Another solution is to give them a mega fat capacitor bonus so they can run their modules.
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Cyan Nuevo
Dudes In Crazy Killing Ships
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Posted - 2007.08.27 04:53:00 -
[181]
Oh yeah, why balance overpowered ships when you can make them overpowered in the exact same way all over again?
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Proud Amarr pilot.
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Aina O'Sinnor
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Posted - 2007.08.27 06:03:00 -
[182]
ITS TOMMMMORRROOOO
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no1knowsWho
Gallente
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Posted - 2007.08.27 08:33:00 -
[183]
Hi,
i have a question regarding 350s:
Originally by: CCP Wrangler
Faction and Officer 350mm Railguns have had their optimal range boosted to 43200 meters, in line with their Prototype and Tech II counterparts.
Originally by: CCP Wrangler
The optimal range on a number of faction and officer 350mm Railguns has been corrected.
according to evemon (can't get online to confirm it) Dread Guristas 350mm Railgun I has optimal of 46800m.
so what is it going to be after Tuesday's patch? because changing it to 43200m is definatelly not a "boost".
thnx,
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CCP Wrangler
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Posted - 2007.08.27 10:15:00 -
[184]
Some duplicate patch notes have been removed. So if you don't see your favorite patch note its still there, but maybe in a different location.
Second Dev Blog has been added to the Khanid Mk II changes.
Patch notes added:
Added missing generic hardwirings to market, this refers to hardwirings with industry/science related bonuses and all hardwirings with 1% bonus.
The following spawn containers have been fixed and require a salvager to access:- Faction Waste.
- Faction Wreck.
- Faction Derelict.
- Faction Hulk.
NPCĆs will now only send messages to the local chat channel.
Patch notes clarified:
Original: The Mining Foreman - Ice Harvesting gang link has been changed to provide a bonus to gang members mining lasers, ice harvesters and gas cloud harvesters.
New: The Mining Foreman - Ice Harvesting gang link has been changed to provide a capacitor need bonus to gang members mining lasers, ice harvesters and gas cloud harvesters.
Original: The Mining Foreman - Drone Coordination command module has been changed to give a range bonus to mining laser and ice harvesters.
New: The Mining Foreman - Drone Coordination command module has been changed to give a range bonus to mining lasers, gas cloud harvesters and ice harvesters.
Wrangler
Community Manager
EVE Online
Contact Support - Contact Moderators - Report Bug - Submit News Leads - Knowledge Base
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Sinder Ohm
Infinite Improbability Inc
Mostly Harmless
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Posted - 2007.08.27 10:29:00 -
[185]
NPCĆs will now only send messages to the local chat channel.
OMG I love u thanks for that! what the heck is a faction hulk? never seen one.
Originally by: Karanth
Wimps play empire. Real men play in 0.0. Hardcore masochists live out in drone space.
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Helison
Gallente
Times of Ancar
Pure.
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Posted - 2007.08.27 10:34:00 -
[186]
Originally by: CCP Wrangler
NPC’s will now only send messages to the local chat channel.
Great change!
Quote:
New: The Mining Foreman - Ice Harvesting gang link has been changed to provide a capacitor need bonus to gang members mining lasers, ice harvesters and gas cloud harvesters.
Just another useless module (at least for barges)...
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Argentail
Caldari
Caldari Provisions
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Posted - 2007.08.27 11:05:00 -
[187]
Wrangler, you must be tired as I am. You forgot to mention that you CPU boosted Minmatar Capitals as well because common sense prevailed
Heres hoping Sarcasm finds a good place in Iceland
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CCP Explorer
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Posted - 2007.08.27 11:31:00 -
[188]
Originally by: Dei
Why didn't CCP just make the warp sound a slider? So that people can choose if they want it loud or quiet. We need more options dammit!
You're sure? The Paradox of Choice: Why More is Less.
Erlendur S. Thorsteinsson
Software Director
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Hoshi
Blackguard Brigade
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Posted - 2007.08.27 11:33:00 -
[189]
Originally by: Sinder Ohm
NPCĆs will now only send messages to the local chat channel.
OMG I love u thanks for that! what the heck is a faction hulk? never seen one.
Guristas Hulk for example, it's a salvage container in an arcsal site.
Hulk can mean both
1 a: a heavy clumsy ship (as used in the exhummer)
or
1 c: an abandoned wreck or shell (as used above).
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CCP Explorer
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Posted - 2007.08.27 11:37:00 -
[190]
Originally by: DarkZombie
Are new alliance logo's going to be added in this patch ?
About 40 new logos are added as far I can tell.
Erlendur S. Thorsteinsson
Software Director
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CCP Explorer
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Posted - 2007.08.27 11:42:00 -
[191]
Edited by: CCP Explorer on 27/08/2007 11:42:28
Originally by: Avalira
Will the LP list in our journal (where you see how much LP you have with each corp) also be in the patch?
Originally by: Decairn
For the love of god please fix that reset-zoom on jump bug.
The LP list is in the journal and we fixed the camera reset bug (see below about these changes being on SiSi for a while).
I'm working with QA to find out why this information isn't in the patch notes, as well as few other things that are missing from the notes.
Originally by: Chruker
Two changes that are missing in the patchnotes:
- Camera zoom no longer resets on session changes (stargate jumps, station docking).
- The Journal window now has a list of where and how loyalty points you have with different corporations.
EDIT: I'm not being here sarcastic here :-) These changes has been on SISI for the last bunch of patches.
Erlendur S. Thorsteinsson
Software Director
EVE Online, CCP Games |
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Sinder Ohm
Infinite Improbability Inc
Mostly Harmless
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Posted - 2007.08.27 12:11:00 -
[192]
CCP Explorer
Im quite sure I read that drone residents would be getting another type of exploration site, I dont see this in the patch notes? Has this been delayed/forgoton/scraped?
Really sux having only 1 sig type up in the barren desert .
Originally by: Karanth
Wimps play empire. Real men play in 0.0. Hardcore masochists live out in drone space.
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Malachon Draco
eXceed Inc.
INVICTUS.
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Posted - 2007.08.27 12:20:00 -
[193]
Addition of other types of exploration than gravimetric and unknown (drone) sites was announced quite a while back for the Drone Regions, I don't see it in here....
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Murphy's Golden Rule: Whoever has the gold, makes the rules.
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Paddlefoot Aeon
Neogen Industries
Fallen Souls
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Posted - 2007.08.27 13:32:00 -
[194]
There are a couple of outstanding questions from these past several pages that we may want to kindly ask for clarification on.
1. Drone Commanders... what type of loot will they drop? Serpentis drop Shadow Serp loot, Guristas drop Dread Gurista look.... will the Drone Commander spawns drop faction mods, or simply more minerals and salvage for loads of T2 components. I got a drone commander in an exploration site in Deklein, and it dropped no loot at all, but did salvage for around 10 T2 rig components.
2. Interdiction spheres: if someone is already "in the tunnel", and a dictor bubble is popped, will it pull that person out of warp early? As it stands now, if you are in warp before your destination gate is bubbled, you warp through the bubble and land on the gate at 0. Will this change with the patch, or does the patch only apply to those initiating warp when a bubble dropped on top of them?
3. Something was alluded to in earlier dev blogs: Skiff getting some sort of bonus for harvesting low-end minerals. Will that be coming in rev 2.2, of will that be coming with the mineral compression nerf in rev 3.0?
Thanks in advance,
Paddlefoot
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Letrange
Minmatar
Chaosstorm Corporation
Apoapsis Multiversal Consortium
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Posted - 2007.08.27 13:57:00 -
[195]
Originally by: CCP Wrangler
NPCĆs will now only send messages to the local chat channel.
Bless you, Bless you, Bless you. I'm currently grinding missions to raise various NPC corp standings up past 6.7 and Minmatar standings above 5.2~. The spam NPC chat in all my open chat windows was horribly annoying.
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Komen
Gallente
Industrial Services INC
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Posted - 2007.08.27 14:00:00 -
[196]
I just saw "NPCĆs will now only send messages to the local chat channel."
/me cries tears of joy. Thank you!
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Posted - 2007.08.27 14:09:00 -
[197]
Quote:
NPCĆs will now only send messages to the local chat channel.
Err, this is not so good... (For me atleast)
I have my Chat window open most of the time, and in my Corp chat, and its great to have these messages come up on the 'current' window, agreed not all the windows.... but....
When on a mission that pops these up, like the one with the mother drone and it puts a message up saying whe has released more drones, its useful to have it in the current window, so that you can see it immediatly.
Could it not be changed to only popup in the current open chat window, rather than local all the time, or even an option to make it go to 'Local' or 'Current window' ????
Rob D.
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Paddlefoot Aeon
Neogen Industries
Fallen Souls
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Posted - 2007.08.27 14:16:00 -
[198]
Originally by: Robdon
Quote:
NPCĆs will now only send messages to the local chat channel.
Err, this is not so good... (For me atleast)
I have my Chat window open most of the time, and in my Corp chat, and its great to have these messages come up on the 'current' window, agreed not all the windows.... but....
When on a mission that pops these up, like the one with the mother drone and it puts a message up saying whe has released more drones, its useful to have it in the current window, so that you can see it immediatly.
Could it not be changed to only popup in the current open chat window, rather than local all the time, or even an option to make it go to 'Local' or 'Current window' ????
Rob D.
Most players have their local channel separated out from their other channels, so that you can always keep tabs on who is in local with you. If this is the case, 2 active windows will get spammed. I personally have 8-10 channels open on a regular basis, so this "local only" is a blessing for when I run missions.
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Posted - 2007.08.27 14:20:00 -
[199]
Quote:
I personally have 8-10 channels open on a regular basis
You have 8 actually visible at one time, or 8 stacked??
I mean the one you can actually see, ie the top one, when stacked.
Ok, if you have 8 open channels, all next to each other rather than stacked, then I agree, but then you can use the 'option' that I suggested to make it just use the 'local' channel.
Rob.
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Sinder Ohm
Infinite Improbability Inc
Mostly Harmless
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Posted - 2007.08.27 14:37:00 -
[200]
Originally by: Paddlefoot Aeon
There are a couple of outstanding questions from these past several pages that we may want to kindly ask for clarification on.
1. Drone Commanders...
Thanks in advance,
Paddlefoot
I have also found 1 or 2 Commanders in exploration sites and found the same stuff as you did. I hope they will drop more than that when they start spawning in the belts.
I thaught we were getting Officer spawns and hauler spawns (like the other regions have) but it looks like I was wrong
Originally by: Karanth
Wimps play empire. Real men play in 0.0. Hardcore masochists live out in drone space.
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Scorpyn
Caldari
Infinitus Odium
The Church.
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Posted - 2007.08.27 14:52:00 -
[201]
I have made a bug report (42504) that's listed as "Fixed in: Revelations 2.2.0", but I can't find it in the patch notes even though it's not sploit related.
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Andargor theWise
Collateral Damage Unlimited
Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.08.27 14:53:00 -
[202]
Ishtar CPU is not in?
It needs a serious boost for non-faction fitting.
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Got grief?
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belzebub1
Gallente
The Funkalistic
SMASH Alliance
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Posted - 2007.08.27 15:23:00 -
[203]
CCP is the ORE Capital ship BPo going to be like the other ORE BPo's ? Will they only be available in ORE stations in 0.0 ??
Rgds
Belz
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Reatu Krentor
Minmatar
Void Spiders
Fate Weavers
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Posted - 2007.08.27 15:42:00 -
[204]
Originally by: CCP Wrangler
Patch notes added:
NPCĆs will now only send messages to the local chat channel.
Omg omg, me love you long time ♥
Now about the minmatar carriers .
The caldari capitals got a cpu boost because they are shield tankers but are the minmatar carriers not considered shield tankers? Because they are not receiving a boost they do need to be able to shield tank without "wasting" slots on co-processors. In fact, the Nidhoggur has less cpu and less grid then Thanatos(an armor tanker), the Hel only has as much cpu as a Nyx(again an armor tanker) and less grid then the Thanatos .
My thoughts on Damps.
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Doppler Shift
Red 42
Infinite Innovation
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Posted - 2007.08.27 15:54:00 -
[205]
Originally by: Tidas Andrommeda
Edited by: Tidas Andrommeda on 26/08/2007 16:26:15
Sigh. And you're still incompetent :(.
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Learn some physics about capacitors. If you connect 2 by a wire they equal out. If you want to suck more out you need to expend energy to do so.
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Now go troll another thread or come up with something that actually makes sense.
Speaking of incompetent trolls, one of the few things even more irritating than trying to justify game design by RL analogy is when the poster clearly doesn't understand what he is citing from RL. What type of major (as in, industrial capacity) battery or capacitor isn't implemented with multiple cells both in series and/or parallel? What makes you think you couldn't short the targeted power bank against just a small subset of the nossing ship's capacitor bank, which could then be switched back into the mank bank? As a rule, the sentiment "it can't be done" is incorrect -- and certainly not in the lexicon of any engineer worth his salt. Even more importantly, the sentiment "but in RL..." has no place here.
Sorry, back to relevant discussion:
1) Thank you for so many needed interface improvements!
2) Can we get a little more detail on the LP store changes, particularly for one last chance to buy those things becoming more expensive?
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Dudes In Crazy Killing Ships
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Originally by: Doppler Shift
What type of major (as in, industrial capacity) battery or capacitor isn't implemented with multiple cells both in series and/or parallel? What makes you think you couldn't short the targeted power bank against just a small subset of the nossing ship's capacitor bank, which could then be switched back into the mank bank?
Well, I'm not sure. The Lorentz transformation could be redirected through the current loop for Ampere's law and thus short out the gradient velocity.
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FINALLY! THANK YOU!
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Paddlefoot Aeon
Neogen Industries
Fallen Souls
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Posted - 2007.08.27 16:45:00 -
[207]
Originally by: Sinder Ohm
Originally by: Paddlefoot Aeon
There are a couple of outstanding questions from these past several pages that we may want to kindly ask for clarification on.
1. Drone Commanders...
Thanks in advance,
Paddlefoot
I have also found 1 or 2 Commanders in exploration sites and found the same stuff as you did. I hope they will drop more than that when they start spawning in the belts.
I thaught we were getting Officer spawns and hauler spawns (like the other regions have) but it looks like I was wrong
Honestly... what would you want in drone hauler spawns? You already a sh*tload of mins from everyday ratting... why would you want more??? Especially now that the alloys have been tweaked to include a much higher concentration of Trit and Pyerite?
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Posted - 2007.08.27 17:03:00 -
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Originally by: no1knowsWho
Hi,
i have a question regarding 350s:
Originally by: CCP Wrangler
Faction and Officer 350mm Railguns have had their optimal range boosted to 43200 meters, in line with their Prototype and Tech II counterparts.
Originally by: CCP Wrangler
The optimal range on a number of faction and officer 350mm Railguns has been corrected.
according to evemon (can't get online to confirm it) Dread Guristas 350mm Railgun I has optimal of 46800m.
so what is it going to be after Tuesday's patch? because changing it to 43200m is definatelly not a "boost".
thnx,
no1
This change was a boost only - variants with ranges greater than 43200m have not been changed. The Dread variant is definitely still at 46800.
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Posted - 2007.08.27 17:30:00 -
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Some notes have changed location:
NPCĆs -> LP Store
* Khanid corps now has a good selection of modules, focusing around short-ranged missile systems and armor tanks. They also have access to Caldari Navy short-range missiles.
* Ammatar corporations now have access to Amarr Navy laser crystals.
* Caldari and Minmatar corps now has access to their own Heavy Assault Missile Launchers.
* Minmatar corporations now have access to missing factional Carbonized Lead and Depleted Uranium ammunition.
NPCĆs -> Ships & Modules
* Extended the Nosferatu transfer amount bonus on the Bloodraider ships (Cruor, Ashimmu and Bhaalgorn) to also include Energy Neutralizers.
Added patch notes:
* Added ôLPö tab in the Journal, to view the LPĆs you have with different corps.
* Character Sheet Enhancement ű ôShow skill historyö and ôSettingsö have been moved to a tabbed system under skills.
* The size of the fuel bay in starbases has been increased.
* Energy Neutralizers have had their power grid requirements reduced, to be the same as the Nosferatu power grid requirements.
* The Audio Engine has been upgraded, this mainly lays the foundation for better functionality upgrades in the future.
* The power output of the Pilgrim has been increased by 100 MW.
* The camera zoom level will no longer reset after you jump through a Stargate.
* Added "Clear Cache" button in the Esc menu, under "Reset Settings".
* Materials & Research groups have had items inside them reorganized. Two main groups were created called materials and components. Resource types were put under materials and components were put in the component group. The two groups were then put under a section named ôResearch & Inventionö.
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DarkZombie
Imminent Darkness
Fluff Bites
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Posted - 2007.08.27 17:33:00 -
[210]
Originally by: CCP Explorer
Originally by: DarkZombie
Are new alliance logo's going to be added in this patch ?
About 40 new logos are added as far I can tell.
Woot Cheers Explorer
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Tsanse Kinske
WeMeanYouKnowHarm
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Posted - 2007.08.27 17:38:00 -
[211]
All in all, this is quite an exciting patch. :D
Originally by: CCP Wrangler
* The camera zoom level will no longer reset after you jump through a Stargate.
WOOT!
* * *
In the beginning the Universe was created. This has made a lot of people very angry and been widely regarded as a bad move.
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Roemy Schneider
BINFORD
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Posted - 2007.08.27 17:44:00 -
[212]
/me foresses dual-repping oneiroses in alliance tournament. you will know it has gone too far when BoB flies them, too instead of scimitars
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Paddlefoot Aeon
Neogen Industries
Fallen Souls
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Posted - 2007.08.27 18:10:00 -
[213]
Edited by: Paddlefoot Aeon on 27/08/2007 18:10:19
* Added "Clear Cache" button in the Esc menu, under "Reset Settings".
NICE!!!!
Will this effect the same session you are in, or will you have to log off and log back in for this cash clearing to take effect? And it won't delete overview settings and folders and bookmarks (browser), will it?
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Bein Glorious
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.08.27 18:11:00 -
[214]
Why is the Zealot buff still not in the patch notes..? |
Kazuo Ishiguro
House of Marbles
Zzz
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Posted - 2007.08.27 18:46:00 -
[215]
There's another fix that seems to be missing from the patch notes. For as long as I've been playing the game, I've had weird flashing blue lights appear when jumping with the map open, but on the test server this hasn't been happening lately.
My research services
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Posted - 2007.08.27 19:35:00 -
[216]
QA is going over the patch notes to make sure we haven't missed anything else.
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Anarkia Evangel
Slacker Industries
Exuro Mortis
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Posted - 2007.08.27 19:42:00 -
[217]
Originally by: Tsanse Kinske
All in all, this is quite an exciting patch. :D
Originally by: CCP Wrangler
* The camera zoom level will no longer reset after you jump through a Stargate.
WOOT!
We just need the Mini map back and this will be the best patch ever!
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Dei
Amarr
Guiders' Of Light
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Posted - 2007.08.27 19:48:00 -
[218]
Someone made the end of the patch notes all green!
But this patch gets better and better. Fixes most of the annoying little things.
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Posted - 2007.08.27 19:57:00 -
[219]
Originally by: Dei
Someone made the end of the patch notes all green!
But this patch gets better and better. Fixes most of the annoying little things.
All notes we add to the patch notes after we publish the original version are made green to show people they have been added.
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nintai
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Posted - 2007.08.27 19:58:00 -
[220]
Edited by: nintai on 27/08/2007 19:58:44
dont like the nerf on Nos you could have taken the domi away in he same time no use for it now(1 year off Nosdomi skilling in the lake)
How long has the domi been kitted With NOS and nobody have complyned(sorry bad english)
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Caldari
Under Heavy Fire
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Posted - 2007.08.27 20:12:00 -
[221]
Edited by: J Ryan on 27/08/2007 20:20:57
Originally by: CCP Wrangler
Originally by: Dei
Someone made the end of the patch notes all green!
But this patch gets better and better. Fixes most of the annoying little things.
All notes we add to the patch notes after we publish the original version are made green to show people they have been added.
I think he's referring to the fact that the entire bottom 3 paragraphs are green despite some of it being exactly the same as when they were first published.
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Dei
Amarr
Guiders' Of Light
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Posted - 2007.08.27 20:16:00 -
[222]
Originally by: J Ryan
Originally by: CCP Wrangler
Originally by: Dei
Someone made the end of the patch notes all green!
But this patch gets better and better. Fixes most of the annoying little things.
All notes we add to the patch notes after we publish the original version are made green to show people they have been added.
I think he's referring to the fact that the entire bottom 3 paragraphs are green despite some bite being exactly the same as when they were first published.
As above.
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Posted - 2007.08.27 20:22:00 -
[223]
I'm sorry but I don't see what you guys mean, it looks as it should look to me.
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Paddlefoot Aeon
Neogen Industries
Fallen Souls
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Posted - 2007.08.27 20:26:00 -
[224]
Originally by: CCP Wrangler
I'm sorry but I don't see what you guys mean, it looks as it should look to me.
/me puts tongue firmly in cheek...
mmm... try clearing your cache....
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Cyan Nuevo
Dudes In Crazy Killing Ships
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Posted - 2007.08.27 20:27:00 -
[225]
Originally by: Paddlefoot Aeon
/me puts tongue firmly in cheek...
mmm... try clearing your cache....
Hehe.
Some of this stuff shouldn't be green.
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Posted - 2007.08.27 20:27:00 -
[226]
Originally by: Paddlefoot Aeon
Originally by: CCP Wrangler
I'm sorry but I don't see what you guys mean, it looks as it should look to me.
/me puts tongue firmly in cheek...
mmm... try clearing your cache....
I even checked a different browser, looked good there as well.
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Posted - 2007.08.27 20:30:00 -
[227]
Originally by: Cyan Nuevo
Hehe.
Some of this stuff shouldn't be green.
I changed part of the html, hoping that works for you. Does everyone who saw it all green use firefox? I checked in IE and Opera and it looked normal in both.
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Bein Glorious
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.08.27 20:31:00 -
[228]
Originally by: CCP Wrangler
QA is going over the patch notes to make sure we haven't missed anything else.
Hate to bother you, but this isn't in the patch notes so you seem to have missed this:
Originally by: More Balancing Changes For Revelations 2.2
Zealot:
* 320tf (+5tf)
* 1180mw (+90mw)
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Farrellus Cameron
Sturmgrenadier Inc
R i s e
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Posted - 2007.08.27 20:35:00 -
[229]
Originally by: CCP Wrangler
Originally by: Cyan Nuevo
Hehe.
Some of this stuff shouldn't be green.
I changed part of the html, hoping that works for you. Does everyone who saw it all green use firefox? I checked in IE and Opera and it looked normal in both.
I am on Firefox and it is still green to me. It starts with the spawn container change at the end of NPC changes, which is a new addition, and goes straight to the end of the patch notes making all of that text green. The appearance is that of someone not closing the html code for green text.
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Posted - 2007.08.27 20:37:00 -
[230]
Originally by: Farrellus Cameron
I am on Firefox and it is still green to me. It starts with the spawn container change at the end of NPC changes, which is a new addition, and goes straight to the end of the patch notes making all of that text green. The appearance is that of someone not closing the html code for green text.
Well, I'm no html expert, but this is what the code looks like and it looks closed to me:
<font color=green><li>The following spawn containers have been fixed and require a salvager to access:
<ul>
<li>Faction Waste.</li>
<li>Faction Wreck.</li>
<li>Faction Derelict.</li>
<li>Faction Hulk.</font></li>
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Verona Mal
Eve University
Ivy League
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Posted - 2007.08.27 20:38:00 -
[231]
This is a great patch!
Mission spam only in local? Clear cache button? Priceless! Genius! Thanks CCP for listening to all our whining and complaints. We always knew you cared.
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Epitrope
The Citadel Manufacturing and Trade Corporation
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Posted - 2007.08.27 20:42:00 -
[232]
HTML tags need to be closed in the reverse order that they were opened in. <font><li></font></li> has undefined behavior; instead, it should be <li><font></font></li>. Sort out the nesting problems and it should render properly in every browser. (Yes, I use firefox.)
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Imhothar Xarodit
Minmatar
Wolverine Solutions
Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.08.27 20:48:00 -
[233]
Edited by: Imhothar Xarodit on 27/08/2007 20:50:07
Edited by: Imhothar Xarodit on 27/08/2007 20:48:46
Originally by: CCP Wrangler
Originally by: Farrellus Cameron
I am on Firefox and it is still green to me. It starts with the spawn container change at the end of NPC changes, which is a new addition, and goes straight to the end of the patch notes making all of that text green. The appearance is that of someone not closing the html code for green text.
Well, I'm no html expert, but this is what the code looks like and it looks closed to me:
<font color=green><li>The following spawn containers have been fixed and require a salvager to access:
<ul>
<li>Faction Waste.</li>
<li>Faction Wreck.</li>
<li>Faction Derelict.</li>
<li>Faction Hulk.</font></li>
Your closing is indeed incorrect.
The <font> tag starts before a <li> but this one <li> has no closing tag. Therefore the color format goes on to the rest.
That whole paragraph should end with: "...Hulk.</li></ul></li></font></ul>", closing all lists correctly.
If I'm right...
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CCP Wrangler
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Posted - 2007.08.27 20:50:00 -
[234]
Originally by: Epitrope
HTML tags need to be closed in the reverse order that they were opened in. <font><li></font></li> has undefined behavior; instead, it should be <li><font></font></li>. Sort out the nesting problems and it should render properly in every browser. (Yes, I use firefox.)
Problem is, if I start the <font color=green> after the <li> I get a white dot and a green note, and that looks bad. Change browser to Opera please.
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Posted - 2007.08.27 20:52:00 -
[235]
Originally by: Kazuo Ishiguro
There's another fix that seems to be missing from the patch notes. For as long as I've been playing the game, I've had weird flashing blue lights appear when jumping with the map open, but on the test server this hasn't been happening lately.
Yes, we fixed that, and no, I don't know why it's not in the patch notes.
We are currently re-reviewing the patch notes to make sure we tell you about all our hard work
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Imhothar Xarodit
Minmatar
Wolverine Solutions
Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.08.27 20:52:00 -
[236]
The problem is not if <font> or <li> come first, the problem is your </font> comes before the accopmanying closing </li> (which is completely missing btw )
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Posted - 2007.08.27 20:53:00 -
[237]
I changed it a bit, this is the whole section:
<p><b>NPCĆs</b>
<ul>
<li>Rogue Drone Commander NPCs now have a chance of being found in asteroid belts & ice fields in Rogue drone regions.</li>
<li>Fixed a Blood Raider encounter in 0.8 systems which was using an obsolete version.</li>
<li>Non-drone regions now contain 40% more pirate Encounters and 40% less drones.</li>
<li>Low security space and 0.0 areas now have 50% more Encounters per system.</li>
<li>Low sec Encounter sites are now generally more difficult, and have better rewards as a result.</li>
<font color=green><li>The following spawn containers have been fixed and require a salvager to access:</li>
<ul>
<li>Faction Waste.</li>
<li>Faction Wreck.</li>
<li>Faction Derelict.</li>
<li>Faction Hulk.</li>
</ul></font>
</ul>
Does this improve anything?
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Imhothar Xarodit
Minmatar
Wolverine Solutions
Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.08.27 20:54:00 -
[238]
Perfect
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Hamfast
Gallente
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Posted - 2007.08.27 21:08:00 -
[239]
Originally by: CCP Wrangler
The following spawn containers have been fixed and require a salvager to access:- Faction Waste.
- Faction Wreck.
- Faction Derelict.
- Faction Hulk.
I hope someone can enlighten me...
I have seen Faction Wrecks, but where are Faction Waste, Faction Derelict and Faction Hulk's found?
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Posted - 2007.08.27 21:21:00 -
[240]
I think you missed a fix in the notes. A certain Gurista Archeology (Magnetometric) complex has structures that cannot be opened since Rev 2.0. If you use an Analyzer, it tells you to use a Salvager; if you use a Salvager, it tells you to use an Analyzer.
Bug ID 40512, marked to be fixed in Rev 2.2.0. Which is great. Now document it :).
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Metaller
Ocean Dynamics
Dark Matter Coalition
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Posted - 2007.08.27 21:26:00 -
[241]
maybe i missed it in the long patch notes BUT:
are the invention implants going to work after this patch???
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CCP Greyscale
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Posted - 2007.08.27 21:57:00 -
[242]
Originally by: Yorick Downe
I think you missed a fix in the notes. A certain Gurista Archeology (Magnetometric) complex has structures that cannot be opened since Rev 2.0. If you use an Analyzer, it tells you to use a Salvager; if you use a Salvager, it tells you to use an Analyzer.
Bug ID 40512, marked to be fixed in Rev 2.2.0. Which is great. Now document it :).
This one?
Quote:
The following spawn containers have been fixed and require a salvager to access:
* Faction Waste.
* Faction Wreck.
* Faction Derelict.
* Faction Hulk.
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Posted - 2007.08.27 22:01:00 -
[243]
And we have even more patch note additions:
* Fixed typos and spelling errors in various mission and module descriptions.
* There was a Serpentis Exploration Encounter that had Gurista NPCĆs in it, which have been removed.
* Removed the reference to the ability to Remotely detonate a doomsday from the description of each doomsday device.
* Some missions requiring delivery of items did not remove the items on mission completion. This has been fixed.
* Some missions had ôobjective completedö displayed before they were actually finished. This has been fixed.
* The Survey Scanner window now keeps items sorted in the same order after it updates.
* Core Complexion ű a Minmatar corporation was offering Ammatar items in its LP Store. These have been removed.
* Resolved server side issues that were causing encounters not to despawn after completion.
* World map control panel and character sheet would sometimes appear outside the eve window after the cache is cleared. This has been fixed.
* Fixed an issue where the tutorial would not continue if it was closed, even if ôYesö was answered to continue it another time.
* Fixed the description for Heavy Missiles.
* Fixed the display of the alliance logo in the character selection screen, as some logos were being cut off.
* Fixed a display issue where text was off the left side of the window under the Home tab under Corp -> Alliance.
* Fixed issue where the zoom level is not kept in between changing between Ship view, System view and Map view.
* Moved the ôSaddleö small capacitor booster from the Small Cap Battery variations.
* Changes to the output window of the Ship Scanner - "capacitors capacity" label removed as the proportional value now is in the format of "current / max Energy", removed the ôcapacityö gauge.
* Fixed a typo in the description of the Signal Focusing Kit II rig.
* Fixed issue where the Color of the login screen would revert from the Revelations II color scheme to the Revelations I color scheme if information was entered incorrectly.
* Fixed a display issue where the text could be too close together in the Corporation Wallet screen, if no division was selected.
* Fixed an exception caused by right clicking while the ship context menu is open.
* In the mission ôGovernorĆs Aide (2 of 5)ö the drone required to complete the mission took too long to spawn. The time it takes for this drone to spawn has been reduced.
* Clarified the error message that pops up if you attempt to activate a jump bridge that does not have enough fuel in it.
* Fixed Manticore description to reflect that all other stealth bombers now have 3 launcher points.
* Removed Caldari Navy BPCĆs from the Imperial Shipment LP store.
* Changed the overseer effect drops in the Rogue Drone 10/10 complex to be in line with those from the other 10/10s.
* Adjusted the mission description of Cash Flow for Capsuleers (2 of 10) to better reflect the location of one of the mission objectives.
* Fixed an issue where drones would sometimes constantly attack control towers, causing errors and a lot of server load.
* Adjusted the warp in point for the Damsel in Distress mission, as it was possible to get stuck on structures when warping in.
* Fixed the tooltip over your own ship so that the text is centre aligned, not right aligned.
* Exporting from the market to a file resulted in displaying an incorrect path name with forward slashes ô/ö instead of backslashes ô\ö. This has been fixed.
* Fixed an issue where using the ôReset to Default Window Positionsö would cause an exception.
* Changed the description of the Leadership skill to reflect the fact that it gives a bonus to scan resolution.
Let me know if there are any problems with the green tags again, I won't see it myself since I don't use Firefox.
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Bein Glorious
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.08.27 22:10:00 -
[244]
but where is the zealot buff ... |
Dei
Amarr
Guiders' Of Light
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Posted - 2007.08.27 22:28:00 -
[245]
Originally by: CCP Wrangler
Let me know if there are any problems with the green tags again, I won't see it myself since I don't use Firefox.
It's all peachy now, you dirty Opera user you.
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Posted - 2007.08.27 22:31:00 -
[246]
Originally by: Bein Glorious
but where is the zealot buff ...
I sent an email asking if we left it out or if it's planned for a future patch or something, should have an answer tomorrow.
Originally by: Dei
It's all peachy now, you dirty Opera user you.
Actually I mainly use Avant Browser, which is basically IE. I use Opera for some things, should probably switch everything to it but I'm too lazy. I do have Firefox installed but it refuses to start up, and I'm too lazy to reinstall, plus I must say i never really liked Firefox anyway.
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Matalino
Gallente
Ki Tech Industries
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Posted - 2007.08.27 22:41:00 -
[247]
Originally by: CCP Wrangler
Originally by: Bein Glorious
but where is the zealot buff ...
I sent an email asking if we left it out or if it's planned for a future patch or something, should have an answer tomorrow.
I sure hope we figure this out by tomorrow. Maybe we will know tomorrow around 14:30?
As for your HTML, I don't have any problems but I do see where the browsers might have been getting confused. Tags should be closed in the same order they are opened.
<font color=green><li>Good HTML is like this...</li></font>
<li><font color=green>or like this.</font></li>
<font color=green><li>Bad HTML is like this...</font></li>
<li><font color=green>or like this.</li></font>
Originally by: CCP Prism X
P.S. If you think you're reading some information through the lines here, you're wrong. I'm actually just bored.
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Bein Glorious
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.08.27 22:45:00 -
[248]
Originally by: CCP Wrangler
Originally by: Bein Glorious
but where is the zealot buff ...
I sent an email asking if we left it out or if it's planned for a future patch or something, should have an answer tomorrow.
alright cool, it's all good |
Christari Zuborov
Ore Mongers
R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2007.08.27 22:58:00 -
[249]
Didn't see anything listed for cloaking changes? Not sure if it's this patch, but last patch it was removed and stated in would be in the future patch.
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EscapeArtist
Dirty Deeds Corp.
Axiom Empire
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Posted - 2007.08.27 22:59:00 -
[250]
Quote:
The camera zoom level will no longer reset after you jump through a Stargate.
OK who fixed this?
Because I'm going to fly to Iceland and make love to you...
THANK YOU!
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Ottomack
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Posted - 2007.08.27 23:32:00 -
[251]
what happened with the reset camera on jump?, why are they not fixing that?
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Ottomack
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Posted - 2007.08.27 23:39:00 -
[252]
sorry i read that this is fixed now whooohooo!!
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Tommack
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Posted - 2007.08.27 23:39:00 -
[253]
cool!
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Imhothar Xarodit
Minmatar
Wolverine Solutions
Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.08.27 23:55:00 -
[254]
You know, if you told me now, that after tomorrow, all 3 variations of an ore are put into the same group one the new survey scanner, but you forgot to put it into patch notes, then I think I... I don't know... that would be just awesome!!
Please please with a cherry on top
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CCP Wrangler
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Posted - 2007.08.28 00:05:00 -
[255]
Originally by: Matalino
As for your HTML, I don't have any problems but I do see where the browsers might have been getting confused. Tags should be closed in the same order they are opened.
<font color=green><li>Good HTML is like this...</li></font>
<li><font color=green>or like this.</font></li>
<font color=green><li>Bad HTML is like this...</font></li>
<li><font color=green>or like this.</li></font>
Well, I did two changes, I added a </li> and I put the </font> the way you describe as bad HTML, one of them fixed the problem and I'm perfectly happy with that.
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Matalino
Gallente
Ki Tech Industries
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Posted - 2007.08.28 00:15:00 -
[256]
Originally by: CCP Wrangler
Originally by: Matalino
As for your HTML, I don't have any problems but I do see where the browsers might have been getting confused. Tags should be closed in the same order they are opened.
<font color=green><li>Good HTML is like this...</li></font>
<li><font color=green>or like this.</font></li>
<font color=green><li>Bad HTML is like this...</font></li>
<li><font color=green>or like this.</li></font>
Well, I did two changes, I added a </li> and I put the </font> the way you describe as bad HTML, one of them fixed the problem and I'm perfectly happy with that.
That is just the way it is supposed to work. How it actually works depends on how the browser handles bad HTML. But like you said, if it works, it works.
Originally by: CCP Prism X
P.S. If you think you're reading some information through the lines here, you're wrong. I'm actually just bored.
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Tidas Andrommeda
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Posted - 2007.08.28 00:34:00 -
[257]
Originally by: Doppler Shift
Originally by: Tidas Andrommeda
Edited by: Tidas Andrommeda on 26/08/2007 16:26:15
Sigh. And you're still incompetent :(.
...
Learn some physics about capacitors. If you connect 2 by a wire they equal out. If you want to suck more out you need to expend energy to do so.
...
Now go troll another thread or come up with something that actually makes sense.
Speaking of incompetent trolls, one of the few things even more irritating than trying to justify game design by RL analogy is when the poster clearly doesn't understand what he is citing from RL. What type of major (as in, industrial capacity) battery or capacitor isn't implemented with multiple cells both in series and/or parallel? What makes you think you couldn't short the targeted power bank against just a small subset of the nossing ship's capacitor bank, which could then be switched back into the mank bank? As a rule, the sentiment "it can't be done" is incorrect -- and certainly not in the lexicon of any engineer worth his salt. Even more importantly, the sentiment "but in RL..." has no place here.
Sorry, back to relevant discussion:
1) Thank you for so many needed interface improvements!
2) Can we get a little more detail on the LP store changes, particularly for one last chance to buy those things becoming more expensive?
Please go connect two capacitors with a wire. Then put a transistor on the "users" side so no power leaks back. Tell me what happens.
I don't care about industrial batteries. And the simple fact is the only way to get energy to flow "uphill" into another capacitor is to expend energy. I don't care how much but SOME energy will be spent and unless you have a module on the other ship that gets turned on by Nos which is labeled "I pump yo energy into that dudes ship when he asks nicely" then you are gonna be the one expending that energy.
I don't usually use "in RL" in posts but when they implement something that mirrors real life so well its just the sensible thing to do.
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Kaathar Rielspar
Minmatar
Universal Exports
Namtz'aar k'in
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Posted - 2007.08.28 01:07:00 -
[258]
Originally by: Anarkia Evangel
Originally by: Tsanse Kinske
All in all, this is quite an exciting patch. :D
Originally by: CCP Wrangler
* The camera zoom level will no longer reset after you jump through a Stargate.
WOOT!
We just need the Mini map back and this will be the best patch ever!
QFT!
link to a thread with links to lots of threads about it here
i can dream right?
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Doppler Shift
Red 42
Infinite Innovation
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Posted - 2007.08.28 01:09:00 -
[259]
Originally by: Tidas Andrommeda
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Please go connect two capacitors with a wire. Then put a transistor on the "users" side so no power leaks back. Tell me what happens.
I don't care about industrial batteries. And the simple fact is the only way to get energy to flow "uphill" into another capacitor is to expend energy. I don't care how much but SOME energy will be spent and unless you have a module on the other ship that gets turned on by Nos which is labeled "I pump yo energy into that dudes ship when he asks nicely" then you are gonna be the one expending that energy.
I don't usually use "in RL" in posts but when they implement something that mirrors real life so well its just the sensible thing to do.
Please go connect 10 capacitors in series. These are your capacitor bank. Switch one out, connect it with the victim's capacitor which was at 20% the voltage of your own bank (thus 200% the voltage of the single capacitor you have now isolated from your bank). Connect the two with a wire. Disconnect. Switch the single capacitor back into your bank. Was that so darned difficult? "Sensible" doesn't include saying you can't do what is actually quite easy to implement. Please don't pursue a career in engineering, you'll just discourage actual progress with your naysaying attitude.
And just in case I didn't say it enough before, THANKYOUTHANKYOUTHANKYOU CCP for the long-awaited interface improvements! Not rescaling the camera after every jump is even better than Old Peculier on gank night!
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Tidas Andrommeda
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Posted - 2007.08.28 01:34:00 -
[260]
Edited by: Tidas Andrommeda on 28/08/2007 01:36:51
Originally by: Doppler Shift
Originally by: Tidas Andrommeda
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Please go connect two capacitors with a wire. Then put a transistor on the "users" side so no power leaks back. Tell me what happens.
I don't care about industrial batteries. And the simple fact is the only way to get energy to flow "uphill" into another capacitor is to expend energy. I don't care how much but SOME energy will be spent and unless you have a module on the other ship that gets turned on by Nos which is labeled "I pump yo energy into that dudes ship when he asks nicely" then you are gonna be the one expending that energy.
I don't usually use "in RL" in posts but when they implement something that mirrors real life so well its just the sensible thing to do.
Please go connect 10 capacitors in series. These are your capacitor bank. Switch one out, connect it with the victim's capacitor which was at 20% the voltage of your own bank (thus 200% the voltage of the single capacitor you have now isolated from your bank). Connect the two with a wire. Disconnect. Switch the single capacitor back into your bank. Was that so darned difficult? "Sensible" doesn't include saying you can't do what is actually quite easy to implement. Please don't pursue a career in engineering, you'll just discourage actual progress with your naysaying attitude.
And just in case I didn't say it enough before, THANKYOUTHANKYOUTHANKYOU CCP for the long-awaited interface improvements! Not rescaling the camera after every jump is even better than Old Peculier on gank night!
Do what you said in combat and I'll be impressed :P
Never said it was impossible. Hell I never said it couldn't be done. Go ahead and check my posts. All I said was that when you hook one capacitor to another that is how things work. By the way, the word "a" that I use, as in "a capacitor" denotes one capacitor not a bunch acting as one.
As I said I don't care about your industrial capacitors, or even just a group of them acting as one since there are banks of capacitors used in solid state Tesla coils and those aren't necessarily industrial, I was always saying one capacitor to one and this is what effect occurs.
Thanks for skewing my words just for some forum time Mr. Troll : /
I'm impressed though, I never thought there was someone else out there that actually knew how electronics worked :D
I was always going for the simplest explanation to counter those saying "thats not how it works in real life"
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Skinny Puppyy
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Posted - 2007.08.28 03:07:00 -
[261]
Any chance that you could give the pilgrim a modest cargohold increase? Even a 15% increase would help and make it comparable to the arby's hold. Other than the nos nerf this patch actually looks good.
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Guillame Herschel
Gallente
Cheers Restaurant and Bar
Coalition Of Empires
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Posted - 2007.08.28 05:04:00 -
[262]
Originally by: CCP Wrangler
* Changed the description of the Leadership skill to reflect the fact that it gives a bonus to scan resolution.
What-wha-what? It gives a scan resolution bonus? Do you have to be the gang's booster guy for that bonus to take effect?
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Scorched Evil
The Silent Rage
R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2007.08.28 05:11:00 -
[263]
Edited by: Scorched Evil on 28/08/2007 05:11:18
Originally by: CCP Wrangler
Added ôClear Cacheö button in the Esc menu, under ôReset Settingsö.
Wow, only about 3 years overdue. You must work in healthcare.
CYVOK > All you station jockies better get out their and start killing these idiots
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Tricky
Redstar Systems Inc
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Posted - 2007.08.28 07:28:00 -
[264]
Mobile Labatory and Advanced Mobile Labatory.
At this moment, you can't see on the sisi market what the difference is. The amount of slots of each type is not in the attributes or description. You migt want to add that information somewhere to avoid confusion.
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Alerion
Acquire
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Posted - 2007.08.28 07:43:00 -
[265]
I have to say I think the patch looks awesome. Been a long time since I saw patch notes so packed full with needed and useful changes.
Good work CCP!
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Frances Ducoir
Bounty Hunter - Dark Legion
Curse Alliance
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Posted - 2007.08.28 08:10:00 -
[266]
at lot of things, mentioned in the patchnotes have been long waited for.
only issue i have is the nos nerf, which is a small bit too harsh imo. but i will get over it (mainly because of the deimos buff)
good work ccp
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Callthetruth
Caldari
Drunken Ratbags Inc
New Eve Order
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Posted - 2007.08.28 08:17:00 -
[267]
lets hoep those changes and enhancements to the exploration sites come thro into the game ie more spawning over the course of the day desapwn on completion then respawn
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CCP Wrangler
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Posted - 2007.08.28 08:34:00 -
[268]
Originally by: Tidas Andrommeda
I'm impressed though, I never thought there was someone else out there that actually knew how electronics worked :D
There are a lot of people who understands electronics. I studied to be an electrical designer for about a year. That's when I learned that I don't know anything about the damn thing and probably never will.
Wrangler
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IlluminatedOne
Amarr
Tycho Brahe Fan Club
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Posted - 2007.08.28 08:38:00 -
[269]
Edited by: IlluminatedOne on 28/08/2007 08:39:05
Don't want to troll&whine, but what about the Zealot?
Many thanks for the zoom bug fix!
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CCP Wrangler
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Posted - 2007.08.28 08:44:00 -
[270]
Originally by: IlluminatedOne
Edited by: IlluminatedOne on 28/08/2007 08:39:05
Don't want to troll&whine, but what about the Zealot?
Many thanks for the zoom bug fix!
Haven't seen anything in my inbox yet, but then it's still early in Iceland.
Wrangler
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Fenella
Caldari
Dangermouse Inc.
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Posted - 2007.08.28 08:53:00 -
[271]
Originally by: CCP Wrangler
* Changed the description of the Leadership skill to reflect the fact that it gives a bonus to scan resolution.
Could we get a little clearer info on this ? Not seen anything about this until the patch note, is it correct ? If it is correct, is this bonus already in place and just not in the skill description ?
Don't recall seeing any effect on live server before.
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Mashie Saldana
Hooligans Of War
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Posted - 2007.08.28 09:07:00 -
[272]
Originally by: Fenella
Originally by: CCP Wrangler
* Changed the description of the Leadership skill to reflect the fact that it gives a bonus to scan resolution.
Could we get a little clearer info on this ? Not seen anything about this until the patch note, is it correct ? If it is correct, is this bonus already in place and just not in the skill description ?
Don't recall seeing any effect on live server before.
Yes it has been working like that forever.
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Mashie Saldana
Hooligans Of War
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Posted - 2007.08.28 09:13:00 -
[273]
Originally by: Tricky
Mobile Labatory and Advanced Mobile Labatory.
At this moment, you can't see on the sisi market what the difference is. The amount of slots of each type is not in the attributes or description. You migt want to add that information somewhere to avoid confusion.
That would be very useful to add to the description. At the moment you have to search the forum to find the number of slots and the time bonus for each of them.
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Fenella
Caldari
Dangermouse Inc.
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Posted - 2007.08.28 09:14:00 -
[274]
Originally by: Mashie Saldana
Originally by: Fenella
Originally by: CCP Wrangler
* Changed the description of the Leadership skill to reflect the fact that it gives a bonus to scan resolution.
Could we get a little clearer info on this ? Not seen anything about this until the patch note, is it correct ? If it is correct, is this bonus already in place and just not in the skill description ?
Don't recall seeing any effect on live server before.
Yes it has been working like that forever.
Well I learn something new every day, thanks
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Kaakao
Insidious Existence
Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.08.28 09:38:00 -
[275]
I like this patch, can't wait 
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splintercellxxx
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Posted - 2007.08.28 10:03:00 -
[276]
how are the posses now with the fuel/cargo bay's stontium bay etc done ?
how large are they and how long can the now be kept online ?
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CCP Wrangler
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Posted - 2007.08.28 10:16:00 -
[277]
The Zealot gets +90mw powergrid and +5 CPU, this will be added to the patch notes soon.
Wrangler
Community Manager
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Sinder Ohm
Infinite Improbability Inc
Mostly Harmless
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Posted - 2007.08.28 10:39:00 -
[278]
Hi Wrangler
Any plans on updating drones so that their values take our skill and ship bonuses into account? It would be nice to see thier modified values after our skills and will save us a lot of guess work.
Thanks.
Originally by: Karanth
Wimps play empire. Real men play in 0.0. Hardcore masochists live out in drone space.
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Moaldar
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Posted - 2007.08.28 10:42:00 -
[279]
will the invention implants also be fixed with this patch ??? didn't saw anything written about that ( im talking about the poteque ppg 2 -suppose to increase the chance of succes with 5%)
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Chruker
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Posted - 2007.08.28 10:48:00 -
[280]
Originally by: splintercellxxx
how are the posses now with the fuel/cargo bay's stontium bay etc done ?
how large are they and how long can the now be kept online ?
Large towers: 110.000 m3 fuel & 50.000 m3 strontium
Medium towers: 55.000 m3 fuel & 25.000 m3 strontium
Small towers: 27.500 m3 fuel & 12.500 m3 strontium
That should give you over a months worth of fuel, and up to 6 days of reinforced mode
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Vala Draaken
Madhatters Inc.
M. PIRE
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Posted - 2007.08.28 11:07:00 -
[281]
Originally by: Moaldar
Will the invention implants also be fixed with this patch ??? didn't see anything written about that ( im talking about the poteque draftsman GI 2 - supposed to increase the chance of succes with 5%)
I don't think they will be fixed in this patch. At least Chronotis said it was unlikely, that the fix would make it.
Originally by: CCP Chronotis
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The fix requires programming time which means it is unlikely to be fixed in kali 2.2 (our next content patch) sadly. However Greyscale is dealing with it and will keep you apprised and when and how the implants will be fixed.
Original post
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Bort Sampson
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Posted - 2007.08.28 11:10:00 -
[282]
yet again no fix for faction mining laser upgrade
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MailFan
Stormlord Battleforce
Dark Matter Coalition
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Posted - 2007.08.28 11:20:00 -
[283]
Originally by: CCP Wrangler
The Zealot gets +90mw powergrid and +5 CPU, this will be added to the patch notes soon.
Will there be a look at the Eagle for the next patch?
It could use some lovin, especially after the hp buffs, tier2 Bc's and other Hac boosts.
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IlluminatedOne
Amarr
Tycho Brahe Fan Club
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Posted - 2007.08.28 11:27:00 -
[284]
Originally by: CCP Wrangler
The Zealot gets +90mw powergrid and +5 CPU, this will be added to the patch notes soon.
Hooray!!!
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ForceM
Gallente
POS Builder Inc.
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Posted - 2007.08.28 11:29:00 -
[285]
Edited by: ForceM on 28/08/2007 11:30:44
Originally by: Doppler Shift
..And just in case I didn't say it enough before, THANKYOUTHANKYOUTHANKYOU
i agree.
Also ... that sig .... it messes up my screen ... give you a few minutes before the mods strike :)
edit: i can't edit . sigh
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Blank Protection
Caldari
Unified Refining Federation
Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.08.28 11:41:00 -
[286]
"Low security space and 0.0 areas now have 50% more Encounters per system".
What does this mean actually?
Rats in belts respawn much faster now instead of ones in 20 minutes?
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Yorick Downe
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Posted - 2007.08.28 11:52:00 -
[287]
Originally by: CCP Greyscale
Originally by: Yorick Downe
I think you missed a fix in the notes. A certain Gurista Archeology (Magnetometric) complex has structures that cannot be opened since Rev 2.0. If you use an Analyzer, it tells you to use a Salvager; if you use a Salvager, it tells you to use an Analyzer.
Bug ID 40512, marked to be fixed in Rev 2.2.0. Which is great. Now document it :).
This one?
Quote:
The following spawn containers have been fixed and require a salvager to access:
* Faction Waste.
* Faction Wreck.
* Faction Derelict.
* Faction Hulk.
Nope :). It's a "Guristas Derelict", and it should require an Analyzer, not a Salvager, since 2.0. With 2.0, it started requiring one if you used the other, and vice versa, rendering it a very closed box indeed.
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CCP Greyscale
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Posted - 2007.08.28 12:37:00 -
[288]
Originally by: Blank Protection
"Low security space and 0.0 areas now have 50% more Encounters per system".
What does this mean actually?
Rats in belts respawn much faster now instead of ones in 20 minutes?
Encounters are low-strength exploration sites added in Revelations 2. It's not belt-related
Originally by: Yorick Downe
Originally by: CCP Greyscale
Originally by: Yorick Downe
I think you missed a fix in the notes. A certain Gurista Archeology (Magnetometric) complex has structures that cannot be opened since Rev 2.0. If you use an Analyzer, it tells you to use a Salvager; if you use a Salvager, it tells you to use an Analyzer.
Bug ID 40512, marked to be fixed in Rev 2.2.0. Which is great. Now document it :).
This one?
Quote:
The following spawn containers have been fixed and require a salvager to access:
* Faction Waste.
* Faction Wreck.
* Faction Derelict.
* Faction Hulk.
Nope :). It's a "Guristas Derelict", and it should require an Analyzer, not a Salvager, since 2.0. With 2.0, it started requiring one if you used the other, and vice versa, rendering it a very closed box indeed.
Guristas Derelict would be "Faction Derelict" in that list
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Blank Protection
Caldari
Unified Refining Federation
Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.08.28 12:58:00 -
[289]
Maybe something for next patch.
A faster rat respawn in 0.0 belts would be very welcome or only BS respawn`s not those frig size ships that belong in lower security.
Thx for the reply btw.
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Grez
Minmatar
Sybrite Inc.
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Posted - 2007.08.28 13:05:00 -
[290]
Originally by: Blank Protection
Maybe something for next patch.
A faster rat respawn in 0.0 belts would be very welcome or only BS respawn`s not those frig size ships that belong in lower security.
Thx for the reply btw.
They could just replace some of the absolute crappy spawns in 0.1 for some low-end BS spawns (the 700-900k spawns, not the 1-1.3 mil ones). And total removal of frigate spawns in 0.0 would be nice!
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Montaire
Lacedaemon.
Fallen Souls
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Posted - 2007.08.28 13:16:00 -
[291]
That would increase the flow of isk into the game by quite a bit.
Probably not a good idea.
Originally by: Grez
Originally by: Blank Protection
Maybe something for next patch.
A faster rat respawn in 0.0 belts would be very welcome or only BS respawn`s not those frig size ships that belong in lower security.
Thx for the reply btw.
They could just replace some of the absolute crappy spawns in 0.1 for some low-end BS spawns (the 700-900k spawns, not the 1-1.3 mil ones). And total removal of frigate spawns in 0.0 would be nice!
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Davey 666
Minmatar
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Posted - 2007.08.28 13:18:00 -
[292]
So the Exhumers are losing some cargo capacity. That's lame, I bought one because it was so big and it saves me time as I don't jet can mine.
I am not pleased.
To Err is Human
To Arrrh is Pirate!
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Julius Romanus
Free Space Development Cartel
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Posted - 2007.08.28 13:19:00 -
[293]
And "i can take care of the frigs" wont be an acceptable reason to tag along with your gang and 0.0 rat in a ship fast enough to run most bubbles :(
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iulixxi
Xoth Inc
Firmus Ixion
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Posted - 2007.08.28 13:28:00 -
[294]
Edited by: iulixxi on 28/08/2007 13:29:14
Originally by: CCP Greyscale
Originally by: STLEM2
How long before we get patchnotes 'capital ships cannot enter POS's' :o
Actually, that's not a bad idea...*
CapShips are already getting more and more vulnerable.
The traning time for a CapShip is +/- a year (to fly it efficintly), the cost is more or less 1.5 Bil with the fitting and ship cost (that means A LOT of ISK). IF you fix LAG/Desynk & co that will be ok (or not ...), but if u even restrict the right to enter a POS then u leave them with NO DEFENCE (dont tell me that 12 fighters and a smartbomb have a chance with 5 - 6 BS'es - after all 1.5 bils is an average price of a smal gang that cold EASYLY wipe out a cap )
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Julius Romanus
Free Space Development Cartel
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Posted - 2007.08.28 13:30:00 -
[295]
Edited by: Julius Romanus on 28/08/2007 13:32:45
Patching now
*edit*
server up, not accepting connections.
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Chruker
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Posted - 2007.08.28 13:32:00 -
[296]
Originally by: Bort Sampson
yet again no fix for faction mining laser upgrade
Re-read the patchnotes. They are getting fixed and adjusted/nerfed.
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Chruker
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Posted - 2007.08.28 13:33:00 -
[297]
Originally by: Davey 666
So the Exhumers are losing some cargo capacity. That's lame, I bought one because it was so big and it saves me time as I don't jet can mine.
I am not pleased.
They don't get their cargo capacity reduced. The ships get their volume reduced, so more of the ships can fit in a ship maintenance array/bay.
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Julius Romanus
Free Space Development Cartel
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Posted - 2007.08.28 13:50:00 -
[298]
Edited by: Julius Romanus on 28/08/2007 13:49:56
Originally by: CCP Wrangler
* NPC's should now only be able to speak in the local chat channel.
Bam
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ZaKma
Seraphin Technologies
Mercenary Coalition
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Posted - 2007.08.28 13:53:00 -
[299]
Damn this patch just keeps growing and growing. Love it!
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Garat Mant
Minmatar
Moons of Pluto
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Posted - 2007.08.28 13:59:00 -
[300]
smooth acceleration indicator?
no camera reset?
no npc channel spamming?
I think we need to start a fund to buy the CCP staff kegs of beer from around the world...
THANK YOU!!
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Drezzster
Infestation.
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Posted - 2007.08.28 14:07:00 -
[301]
Originally by: MailFan
Originally by: CCP Wrangler
The Zealot gets +90mw powergrid and +5 CPU, this will be added to the patch notes soon.
Will there be a look at the Eagle for the next patch?
It could use some lovin, especially after the hp buffs, tier2 Bc's and other Hac boosts.
Oh yes please please please!
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ry ry
StateCorp
The State
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Posted - 2007.08.28 14:18:00 -
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Originally by: Matalino
As for your HTML, I don't have any problems but I do see where the browsers might have been getting confused. Tags should be closed in the same order they are opened.
<font color=green><li>Good HTML is like this...</li></font>
<li><font color=green>or like this.</font></li>
<font color=green><li>Bad HTML is like this...</font></li>
<li><font color=green>or like this.</li></font>
although to be pedantic, font tags themselves are bad html.
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CCP Wrangler
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Posted - 2007.08.28 14:22:00 -
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Originally by: Garat Mant
smooth acceleration indicator?
no camera reset?
no npc channel spamming?
I think we need to start a fund to buy the CCP staff kegs of beer from around the world...
THANK YOU!!
To qoute Drezzster, Oh yes please please please!
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TccPucky
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Posted - 2007.08.28 14:23:00 -
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i am trying to login .. but i cant login, anybudy now why ?
it just says Status: Not accepting player.. please help :(
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CCP Wrangler
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Posted - 2007.08.28 14:24:00 -
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Originally by: TccPucky
i am trying to login .. but i cant login, anybudy now why ?
it just says Status: Not accepting player.. please help :(
Basically, server is up but we're still testing everything to make sure we can open it up safely, so it's not open to the public yet.
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DJPaulito
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Posted - 2007.08.28 14:28:00 -
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Any ideas how much longer till I can connect ?
Thanks
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TccPucky
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Posted - 2007.08.28 14:29:00 -
[307]
So when will we be ablle to log on ? :D
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Borasao
Ex Coelis
Hydra Alliance
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Posted - 2007.08.28 14:29:00 -
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Just wanted to add an appreciation message in a truly epic thread...
This patch is shaping up to be THE BEST EVE PATCH EVAR!
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Julius Romanus
Free Space Development Cartel
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Posted - 2007.08.28 14:29:00 -
[309]
either 10minutes, or more.
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TccPucky
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Posted - 2007.08.28 14:30:00 -
[310]
Okay thx for help ;)
And a fast anwser
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TccPucky
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Posted - 2007.08.28 14:32:00 -
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Answer*
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Neermark
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Posted - 2007.08.28 14:33:00 -
[312]
370 seconds...
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Ashaz
Mindstar Technology
United Confederation of Corporations
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Posted - 2007.08.28 14:33:00 -
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Just installed the patch.
now it tells me my installation is corrupt!
The install was perfectly fine 5 min before downtime. I obviously haven't touched it since.
What the heck?
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Julius Romanus
Free Space Development Cartel
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Posted - 2007.08.28 14:34:00 -
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Gotta love tabbed browsing all the important forums w/ eve logon in the background.
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CCP Wrangler
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Posted - 2007.08.28 14:34:00 -
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New ETA for server to be opened is 14.45 GMT.
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Julius Romanus
Free Space Development Cartel
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Posted - 2007.08.28 14:36:00 -
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what time is it now anyway?
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Kastaldi
Caldari
Science and Trade Institute
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Posted - 2007.08.28 14:36:00 -
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WOW. The client downloaded the patch in a few seconds, updated and told me how much I have to wait to log on (about five minutes). Amazing. :)
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Volarius
D00M.
Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2007.08.28 14:38:00 -
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My downloading patch progress bar has gone funky, it's dancing to the sound of my winamp player :):):)
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CountingCrow
Spontaneous Defenestration
The Red Skull
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Posted - 2007.08.28 14:39:00 -
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*Celebrating the patch with beer*
And its only 16.39 \o/
Whife will prolly kill me when she gets home ;)
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Pulsar8oy
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Posted - 2007.08.28 14:39:00 -
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Originally by: Ashaz
Just installed the patch.
now it tells me my installation is corrupt!
The install was perfectly fine 5 min before downtime. I obviously haven't touched it since.
What the heck?
Same problem here as well. Tried to reinstall of a few different clients of different ages and all became corrupt. Sounds like it might be back to the drawing board CCP!
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DJPaulito
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Posted - 2007.08.28 14:39:00 -
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Thanks, I await in anticipation., Got to say, only be playing 1 day and i love this game, the X-box has been well shelved!
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TccPucky
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Posted - 2007.08.28 14:42:00 -
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its still saying not accepting connections.. but why ?
there was a countdown..
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nihlanth
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Posted - 2007.08.28 14:47:00 -
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At the first download of the patch, it said the file was corrupted (it tried to download it twice because two message boxes popped up). After I tried to download and install for a second time, it worked fine for me.
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Kastaldi
Caldari
Science and Trade Institute
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Posted - 2007.08.28 14:48:00 -
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Originally by: TccPucky
its still saying not accepting connections.. but why ?
there was a countdown..
The client windows says:
"Revelations 2.2.0 patch deployment today from 11:00-14:45 GMT."
Yes, I saw there was a countdown but maybe we should wait a little more.
Have you put on training a long time skill, haven't you ?
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Gegel
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Posted - 2007.08.28 14:49:00 -
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Edited by: Gegel on 28/08/2007 14:55:13
I`ve got a problem too: my client refuses to work after installling the patch. Says: your client have been corrupted or modified. Please reinstall tehe client. I did so, but it was not helping. (apears, that error in some DLLs).
DLLs are: rtdll.dll, rtcres.dll found in root:/bin/
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CCP Wrangler
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Posted - 2007.08.28 14:59:00 -
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Here's the last changes:
We decided that introducing a new ship required an extra place in the patch notes, so the Rorqual ORE Capital Ship recieved it's own group and it looks like this:
New Ships
Rorqual ORE Capital Ship introduced as described in this Dev Blog.
Features include:
* Unique assembly line which allows use of ore compression blueprints with a large variable volume compression
* Able to fit the Capital Tractor Beam (200km range, 3,000m/s tractor velocity).
* Able to fit 3 gang links, which have been revamped to optimize use of them for the Rorqual.
* Able to fit Industrial Core I Module, a module specifically created for the Rorqual to be able to compress ore.
* Bonus to mining foreman gang links.
* Bonus to survey scanner and cargo scanner range.
* Bonus to capital shield transporter shield transfer range.
* 20% bonus to drone dmg and hitpoints per lvl.
* Clone vat bay.
* Corp hanger.
* Ship maintenances hanger.
* Drone bay able to fit regular drones.
* Built from low sec stations, outposts and large ship arrays (0.4-0.0).
* Operational in 0.4-0.0.
We also added the Exploit Fixes:
* ECM Burst will now correctly cause an aggression flag in empire, including any necessary CONCORD response.
* Draftsman Implants have been removed from the LP Store.
* Coupling arrays and other silos no longer reprocess into too many minerals compared to their buy price.
* Consul series implants have been removed from the LP store.
* The fleet commander no longer gives bonuses to himself if he is the sole member of a fleet.
* A security hole was plugged that could potentially be used to hack the client.
Since the server is up and open for business, it is time to leave this thread and move to the feedback thread.
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