that'd be unfair to incursions. I can run anoms all day if I want, if someone is bored enough to run incursion sites for 8 hours straight, fine by me. the issue is blitzing.

There is no risk under the current mechanics...

Drunk logi, Fake Logi, Crap FC, Network issues, Mass DCs, Module misclicks, on and on.

Compared to easy mode Anoms and Tech moons Incursions are downright risky. Especially with a pimped ship.

Please do not troll this thread. No one is this thick.

Drunk logi, Fake Logi, Crap FC, Network issues, Mass DCs, Module misclicks, on and on.

Compared to easy mode Anoms and Tech moons Incursions are downright risky. Especially with a pimped ship.

My AFK bomber causes more risk than you will ever face in a high sec incursion

Ah you saw my topic about adding balance to AFK cloaking I see. Just in case any fool still thinks I have not had serious experience with the various imbalances in nullsec such as AFK cloaking being +1 Advantage for large alliances.

So that is a very poor comparison for you to make because an AFKer with no indication he has returned is a serious risk. Tho that is another argument altogether.

I have stated just some of the reasons why Incursions are risky. Ignoring them in my opinion just shows willful ignorance on how they operate.

How do you think this will work?

Should the whole constellation should be like 0.0? No regulare citizen nor any "incursioner" will undock/come to said constellation as there would be millions of gankers, camping the gates and the stations, looking for easy kills.

No.

Your idea is to spread this "plague" in to high sec, do you really believe pve pilots will risk flying there with ships worth billions? What will be a risk for pvp pilots? loosing a 50mil ship?

INCURSION SHOULD RESULT IN SYSTEM SEC STATUS DROP

Common CONCORD, you set the security status for a system dont you? You have a full scale invasion and you don't drop the sec status?

All incursion systems should have their sec status drop to low security [with 24hours notice]. Why should people be able to do PI and feel 100% moving thier cargo around in a system where an incursion is taking place? [without risk[

Whatever tech Sansha are using to circumvent CONCORD and Navy effectiveness should extend to capsuleers.

Not only does this make sense in an immersive way but it also places high sec incursion income in line with that of low sec (and null to a lesser extent) but it also provides opt-in PvP for high sec dwellers in lieu of the Dec shield mechanics that nullify a lot of high sec PVP opportunity.

For those that don't like the inherent risk of PvP there are still decent income sources available in safer empire.

Edit: This provides a suitable risk versus reward considering L4 missions earn a conservative 20m per hour but incursions give a conservative 60-70m per hour.

nerf all highsec income

You realize that doing so would nerf null income as well right? I mean who else is going to by those X-type modules for fat iskies but high sec bears with more isk than sense?

To the OP, you know if you want to hunt Incursion runners you could always find some in Low or Null right?

Of course that would mean you'd be facing people who would be prepared to fight back.

Seriously bad idea, if the isk is really a problem (I don't think it is) then lower the payouts. This is just another low sec gank bear "I can't find easy targets so force people to feed me killmails" whine.

Just like all the "move L4s to low sec" it's predicated on the fallacious idea that the bears will just continue along their normal behavior rather than adapting (moving to more secure income streams or use less costly ships).

I say leave the high sec bears their safe income stream, I need a market for my wares so I can afford expensive non-doctrine ships to get blown up (we don't share the Goonies wonderfully liberal reimbursement plan ).

last month we poured 18 tech moons worth of income into subcapital reimbursements alone, tell me more about how we don't give enough ISK to our members

and wow one tech moon, i am impressed by your tenacity, we only have to fuel/empty/time 60+ along with 150+ other towers across 6-7 regions

then the pirates do the incursion and get the isk cause carebear fleet is too scared

What game mechanic stops people in high sec from protecting themselves like those in low sec?

That would force Incursion groups to hire mercs or others to defend them while running the sites as well, cutting in their excessive individual incomes... Great idea.