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Spenz Gallente Dark Knights of Deneb Against ALL Authorities	Posted - 2007.10.04 04:15:00 - [61] Back in the day when cosmos plex's were used for cosmos stuff, they were fun. You would have 1 guy coming into local saying "hey I need this mission item can anyone help", and a bunch of ppl would volunteer to take the plunge into that suicidal plex in system. So we would get 6 or so guys who don't know each other, and are sometimes enemies, and we would get into the plex and dive right in. Mayhem would ensue, and people screaming "I need to warp" or "Im scrambled help me!" would fill the chat channels. Ships would blow up; missiles would fly around; dozens of NPC ships would streak across the screen; gunfire and explosions that would form a continuous white noise. All of this would occur for hours while people would try to find that elusive mission item. Nowadays? 1 guy in a nighthawk with his alts shield repping while his other alts are in fast ships loaded up with codebreakers. Opportunists that would only move in to hack when the rats are agroed on you (they would only hack your can as well). Farmers like the loser with the abaddons would clog up the plex. Nobody can do them anymore because of these people. Im all for moving them to lowsec, or make the NPC's auto-cycle targets AND do all 4 types of damage so nobody can uber tank them. I dunno something has to be done to reopen the content back to the public and not for those who have no life (or no morals in the case of Mr Macro) If I had an Alt I would probably post with it...
Stellar Vix State War Academy	Posted - 2007.10.04 04:32:00 - [62] Move them into exploration, that will fix all the problems. SWA PVP
Constance Noring	Posted - 2007.10.04 05:10:00 - [63] I remember seeing a similar thread a few months ago, and apparently nothing has changed. I don't have anything against people making obscene amounts of isk, but come on - the risk/effort vs reward obviously isn't right here. It's discouraging for a "normal" player when a dubious and clearly overpowered mechanism like this continues to exist. I don't want to run six macro accounts and hug cans around the clock, yet the "normal" isk gathering activities are so vastly inferior, that I'm left with a "why the f**k do I even bother?" feeling. Seriously CCP, fix these exploits that aren't officially exploits, they just make everyone apart from the people using them angry.
Test Scientist	Posted - 2007.10.04 05:31:00 - [64] It's obviously being botted and the fact that CCP doesn't do anything about it is drop dead stupid. These items need to come solely from exploration, and the droprate from exploration needs to be upped quite a bit. There's no reason for farmable static complexes to exist in the game. They already took the step of getting rid of the pirate complexes, why do these still exist? They clearly already know anything static like this will be farmed to hell and back by single people or groups. It's just dumb that it's still in the game and the primary source for encryption skill books and decryptors. Hey look at me, I'm CCP, I purposefully set up places so farmers can farm, control the economy, and sell ISK for real money. WEEEOOOOEOOWOO.
Shereza	Posted - 2007.10.04 05:44:00 - [65] If I could stand to run the missions enough times and long enough I could probably pull 160m/day on an 8-12 hour "work" day. Roughly 1.12b/week. Of course I run 2 characters so roughly 551m/week/character. 6 characters pulling 3b/week in a complex seems roughly comparable. When I set up a corporate mining op awhile back we were pulling about 22m/hour with roughly 6 people. 168m/day, 1.176b/week, high-sec mining. Guess the risk/reward matches up.
Orther Whyte Paradox Dreams	Posted - 2007.10.04 05:45:00 - [66] why is it that every single thing that people make good money on is something that requires them rnning multiple accounts and faction based equipment.. I mean come on , why cant a single account user do anyhting nowadays. If I want to build a battle ship I mine in a hulk, but if I want to be effeicent I have to have a second account to haul ore so I don't waste time, once the ship is built if I want to run level 4's I need to have a the battleship setup to kill things, but if I want to salavage I need to warp away and grab a salavage ship or have second account salavage as I kill things. If I want to do the cosmos plexes and get encryptors I have to have faction fitted BS to tank/kill stuff in 20 mins and then fly away, grab a ship with a codebreaker/analyzer or have multiple ships at once... Now people say solution is to make it lo sec, why not just make it so a person can only ever salvage from the cans ONCE ever, since you can only do the missions once this will drastically reduce eliminate every farmer out there in these plexes, ... only thing that will change is a fleet on nonsensical names parked every "20 minutes" to get the can contents, but at least at that point you either get lucky or get nothing just like a slot machine.
Ryan Darkwolf Amarr Viziam	Posted - 2007.10.04 05:46:00 - [67] I have an idea..although not a very bright one but an idea: Abbadons are SLOOOOOOW...slower than Apocs....just MWD bump him AWAY from the cans....he is already aggroed against the NPC rats....and even with the AB he wont be able to move THAT fast. Just keep bumping him constantly...not only will this keep him/them/it from warping away but it will also ensure that your other buddies can get the cans first....anyway, just my idea ------------------- I had a moderated siggy once...but then I pwned it...just like this Originally by: CCP Wrangler So, now everyone is in here drooling about our fit for female t-shirts...
Kuolematon Space Perverts and Forum Warriors United Cult of War	Posted - 2007.10.04 05:46:00 - [68] Originally by: cpt charon ...hmm interesting! it is exacly the same situation in deltole / gallente space. We are working on that one It's great being Amarr isn't it.
Reviera	Posted - 2007.10.04 05:49:00 - [69] maybe this works if you want to steal frome them. 3-4 friends go there... bumping them away with a nano bc. 3 ships for bumping and 1 ship for taking the loot.
Ghaelsto Kakram	Posted - 2007.10.04 05:50:00 - [70] Originally by: Anst Yorsen Oh and by the way, that's loot for the last week or so, not one day, but keep trying, lying really gets you places. So tell us how much avg ISK you make every day? And how long you're camping those cans every day? What kind of bots/macros are you using for farming? What methods for laundering ISK do you use to get your hands on RL money? Do you mind if you get suicide ganked by some players who are sick of people like you over and over again?

hellsknights Hells Angels Inc.	Posted - 2007.10.04 06:04:00 - [71] Originally by: Anst Yorsen Edited by: Anst Yorsen on 04/10/2007 00:32:06 Originally by: Devian 666 Well if they don't carry out those activities then the price of amarr invention will increase significantly. Is that what you would prefer? Farming isk is one thing but what are they using it for? So long as they don't ebay it for cash then that's fine. I'm the one responsible for the 20 amarr encryptions methods up for sale for only 80m each last week. Wow, did i ever get flamed by the resident farmers for that one. EDIT - I'm refering to people like the OP and his friends. So your saying you keep all your accounts in this area at all times? What i don't understand why wouldent you off-load your lewt after everyday or log on log off session? recruitment thread Join channel Hells Angels Inc
Constance Noring	Posted - 2007.10.04 06:14:00 - [72] Originally by: Shereza If I could stand to run the missions enough times and long enough I could probably pull 160m/day on an 8-12 hour "work" day. Roughly 1.12b/week. Of course I run 2 characters so roughly 551m/week/character. 6 characters pulling 3b/week in a complex seems roughly comparable. The difference here is that you're actually doing something for 8-12h per day, whereas the other guy is getting the same isks without lifting a finger or taking any risks. If this guy was using the said time scanning these locations and fighting off rats that threaten to blow up his ships, while still making the same isk/h, I don't think anyone would have an issue with it.
Delichon Caldari	Posted - 2007.10.04 06:19:00 - [73] Originally by: Nadjar 6.7 billion eh, if anyone was worthy of a profitable suicide ganking............ + officer fits. I would double that. Blow them up. If they are macroing - they'll be sorry :)
Venkul Mul Gallente	Posted - 2007.10.04 06:45:00 - [74] Originally by: Jinx Barker Perhaps rats in empire needs a boosting? And I mean allot of boosting? The only result would be to make life even easier for the farmer. He is set to tank a lot of damage with 6 ships with a lot of faction fittings. Improving the NPC in that location to the point of breaking his tank would make the Cosmos missions impossible for any normal player or group of players (I dubt a normal group of player can organize 6 old character with multibillions ships to do a Cosmos plex). As much as it pains me the best solution could be to really suicide gang him and then stheal his loot and fittings. The return sould pay all the attackers loss and give them some good return.
Venkul Mul Gallente	Posted - 2007.10.04 06:55:00 - [75] Originally by: Anst Yorsen Originally by: Valator Uel While extreemly annoying unfortunatly there is nothing we can do unless there is proof that they are selling the isk for rl money. Untill then it's just one guy with 6 accounts. Don't get me wrong, I really hate people who do this as this is the only reason I never go to these sites. All these things should be moved to exploration, IMHO. A single day of exploration never comes close to 6.7Bil, nevermind in 0.5. It depends if you listen to his extreme exaggeration, actually wait no, his total and utter lies. He has simply scanned the cargo of 6 abaddons, added it all together and now states that is loot from a single day as fact. He simply assumes this and posts it here to make his thread look more extreme. You're welcome to come try for yourself, if you beat us to the cans or not, i'm sure you'll still see whatever spawns and from that you can calculate the value to be made here. You are saying that you routinely keep the loot of several day of farming in your ships as in high security no one will attack you?
Shereza	Posted - 2007.10.04 06:57:00 - [76] Quote: why is it that every single thing that people make good money on is something that requires them rnning multiple accounts and faction based equipment.. Actually, if you could stand making half the money you could do what I do with one account rather easily. People do it every day. Also, I don't use faction equipment. I only just recently stuck in amarr laser crystals into the DPS abaddon I use. Otherwise I just tank with a mostly (T1 launchers, T1 hardeners, T1 rigs) T2 drake. Quote: If I want to build a battle ship I mine in a hulk, but if I want to be effeicent I have to have a second account to haul ore so I don't waste time, once the ship is built if I want to run level 4's I need to have a the battleship setup to kill things, but if I want to salavage I need to warp away and grab a salavage ship or have second account salavage as I kill things. So you need multiple accounts to run at 110-150%. Big deal. Nothing wrong with not operating at over 100% capacity.
Shereza	Posted - 2007.10.04 07:03:00 - [77] Quote: The difference here is that you're actually doing something for 8-12h per day, whereas the other guy is getting the same isks without lifting a finger or taking any risks. To be literal-minded about it, and I'm not really defending anyone's actions mind you, unless they're macro'ing it they would have to lift fingers, at least for one drag/drop every 20 minutes. ;) On a more serious note, I tank with a fairly massively tanked drake, about the best tank possible without T2 hardeners or rigs or faction gear. Once that gets all aggro I can bring in an abaddon fitted purely for killing stuff. Virtually no risk at all and everything dies rather quickly. I understand what you're getting at but it's all relative. If I was doing this with a pair of midling tanked ravens it'd be something else but I'm using two purpose-built ships that are both overbuilt for their jobs. That's why I said if I could stand to do that much missioning in a day. Gets awful boring awful fast.
BCBArclight Odessa Operations	Posted - 2007.10.04 07:15:00 - [78] Fit up some nano-BS and bump them off the cans just before the spawn of the items, they tank the spawn while you just raid the cans :) Odessa Operations are Recruiting
Norwood Franskly	Posted - 2007.10.04 08:22:00 - [79] Why don't they just seed the invention skill books onto the market, like they do with most other skill books people can still farm the complexes but they'd have to sell at less then the npc cost to make any cash from it. Seriously invention is screwed it's suppose to be a way for newer people to get into the tech 2 market but it just invites people to farm, people farm datacores, people farm the complexes. It's ridiculous, theres almost no profit to be made form invention itself (look at the cost of inventing a BPC and then building a T2 module compared with buying the module) but people make a **** load farming the items for it, CCP need to come up with a fix.
Plave Okice 5hockWave Privateer Alliance	Posted - 2007.10.04 08:30:00 - [80] These 6 guys (1 guy whatever) could make just as much cash ratting in 0.0, or running L4's with those accounts and fittings. It really isn't that much of an income split 6 ways. Having said that, these sites shouldn't be static, move them to low sec, double or triple the amount of them and let's fight for them.

Auron Shadowbane Teeth Of The Hydra R i s e	Posted - 2007.10.04 08:47:00 - [81] if he has that much cargo and expensive deadspace LAR then get 15 friends together and gank him. 15 t1 fitted ravens are about 300mil loss give or take and even if half of that cargo (or the LAR) survives it is profit on you....
Zen Guerrilla Minmatar	Posted - 2007.10.04 09:58:00 - [82] The only problem here that i'm seeing is that those asshats completely block the cans for everyone else. Once you got it opened up, there's no chance for anyone else to get the loot. Stuff like that needs to be put into lowsec or random exploration encounters. That would solve the problem. And i'm betting all my money there's macros involved. No one would sit there 12 hours a day just for 1 click every exact 20 minutes. It's so simple to macro, even an asshat can figure that out. ----------------------------- Not an alt. And proud of it.
Dinwiddy Snurdle Gallente University of Caille	Posted - 2007.10.04 09:58:00 - [83] Originally by: Spenz Back in the day when cosmos plex's were used for cosmos stuff, they were fun. You would have 1 guy coming into local saying "hey I need this mission item can anyone help", and a bunch of ppl would volunteer to take the plunge into that suicidal plex in system. So we would get 6 or so guys who don't know each other, and are sometimes enemies, and we would get into the plex and dive right in. Mayhem would ensue, and people screaming "I need to warp" or "Im scrambled help me!" would fill the chat channels. Ships would blow up; missiles would fly around; dozens of NPC ships would streak across the screen; gunfire and explosions that would form a continuous white noise. All of this would occur for hours while people would try to find that elusive mission item. Nowadays? 1 guy in a nighthawk with his alts shield repping while his other alts are in fast ships loaded up with codebreakers. Opportunists that would only move in to hack when the rats are agroed on you (they would only hack your can as well). Farmers like the loser with the abaddons would clog up the plex. Nobody can do them anymore because of these people. Im all for moving them to lowsec, or make the NPC's auto-cycle targets AND do all 4 types of damage so nobody can uber tank them. I dunno something has to be done to reopen the content back to the public and not for those who have no life (or no morals in the case of Mr Macro) Those days of many players using the plexes for what they were mainly designed for i.e fun, are sadly long gone. Now they're just one persons 'job'. A risk-free cash cow that 99.9999999999% of the playerbase will never get to use or have 'fun' in again. CCP need to move them all to low-sec to at least give others a chance of ousting the camper/macroer
Anst Yorsen Caldari Deep Core Mining Inc.	Posted - 2007.10.04 10:01:00 - [84] Originally by: Ghaelsto Kakram Originally by: Anst Yorsen Oh and by the way, that's loot for the last week or so, not one day, but keep trying, lying really gets you places. So tell us how much avg ISK you make every day? And how long you're camping those cans every day? What kind of bots/macros are you using for farming? What methods for laundering ISK do you use to get your hands on RL money? Do you mind if you get suicide ganked by some players who are sick of people like you over and over again? Between the 6 of us over 12-14 hours we'll get a little over a billion isk between us We don't use macros, contrary to popular belief, it's the other farmers who start this. What is this supposed to mean? If you mean do we sell isk, then no we don't. Well we're here arn't we? Now questions answered, the isk to be made really isn't all that great when you stop listening to the OP's lies. The Op made this post because he wants cosmos changed to suit him, he this in local he wants the respawn timers randomized and under no circumstances wants this moved to exploration, there's your op for you. Just over a bill a day for 6 people in expensive faction fitted battleships at 12-14h a day isn't much when compared to every other way of making isk. The only difference is most other ways of making isk don't require billions spent on faction mods.
Anst Yorsen Caldari Deep Core Mining Inc.	Posted - 2007.10.04 10:04:00 - [85] Originally by: hellsknights Originally by: Anst Yorsen Edited by: Anst Yorsen on 04/10/2007 00:32:06 Originally by: Devian 666 Well if they don't carry out those activities then the price of amarr invention will increase significantly. Is that what you would prefer? Farming isk is one thing but what are they using it for? So long as they don't ebay it for cash then that's fine. I'm the one responsible for the 20 amarr encryptions methods up for sale for only 80m each last week. Wow, did i ever get flamed by the resident farmers for that one. EDIT - I'm refering to people like the OP and his friends. So your saying you keep all your accounts in this area at all times? What i don't understand why wouldent you off-load your lewt after everyday or log on log off session? Can't be bothered to dock the abaddons, rather just log out in the plex, usually scrambled and webbed by annoying npc frigates anyway. It's not like we really need the isk, infact we're not actually farming here the isk itself, again contrary to popular belief. You know War Strategon? Very hard to find large quantities of that decryptor, who's gonna be inventing all your T2 amarr battleships come november? You're looking at him ;)
Anst Yorsen Caldari Deep Core Mining Inc.	Posted - 2007.10.04 10:07:00 - [86] Originally by: Constance Noring Originally by: Shereza If I could stand to run the missions enough times and long enough I could probably pull 160m/day on an 8-12 hour "work" day. Roughly 1.12b/week. Of course I run 2 characters so roughly 551m/week/character. 6 characters pulling 3b/week in a complex seems roughly comparable. The difference here is that you're actually doing something for 8-12h per day, whereas the other guy is getting the same isks without lifting a finger or taking any risks. If this guy was using the said time scanning these locations and fighting off rats that threaten to blow up his ships, while still making the same isk/h, I don't think anyone would have an issue with it. Taking no risks and not lifting a finger? I'd have to disagree, we spent several billion isk to lower the effort required, and in the process turned ourselves into a huge suicide gank target. A risk we're willing to take.
Anst Yorsen Caldari Deep Core Mining Inc.	Posted - 2007.10.04 10:09:00 - [87] Originally by: Venkul Mul Originally by: Anst Yorsen Originally by: Valator Uel While extreemly annoying unfortunatly there is nothing we can do unless there is proof that they are selling the isk for rl money. Untill then it's just one guy with 6 accounts. Don't get me wrong, I really hate people who do this as this is the only reason I never go to these sites. All these things should be moved to exploration, IMHO. A single day of exploration never comes close to 6.7Bil, nevermind in 0.5. It depends if you listen to his extreme exaggeration, actually wait no, his total and utter lies. He has simply scanned the cargo of 6 abaddons, added it all together and now states that is loot from a single day as fact. He simply assumes this and posts it here to make his thread look more extreme. You're welcome to come try for yourself, if you beat us to the cans or not, i'm sure you'll still see whatever spawns and from that you can calculate the value to be made here. You are saying that you routinely keep the loot of several day of farming in your ships as in high security no one will attack you? No that's not what I am saying, we're just prepared to withstand suicide ganks, with a few extra suprises, it's fun seeing several ships die in a vain attempt to kill you.
Motokko Minmatar	Posted - 2007.10.04 10:14:00 - [88] I think the real problem here is not so much the money to effort ratio but simply that a resource intended for everyone is able to be solo camped by one person effectively blocking out every other player in the game with almost nothing they can do to try and take it off you.
Death Kill Caldari direkte	Posted - 2007.10.04 10:20:00 - [89] Edited by: Death Kill on 04/10/2007 10:24:56 Originally by: Anst Yorsen Edited by: Anst Yorsen on 04/10/2007 00:23:47 Oh and by the way, that's loot for the last week or so, not one day, but keep trying, lying really gets you places. so you keep a weeks loot in your cargo? and why do you keep all your characters in npc corporations? Call to arms!!!
CelticKnight Celestial Horizon Corp. Valainaloce	Posted - 2007.10.04 10:21:00 - [90] anyone would think that noone in this game does what would be considered a 'farming' activity.... good lord.. whats mining if it isnt farming in a sense? no didnt think anyone had realised that...=/ just because you cant seem to make money doesnt mean that shouldnt be allowed.. happens all the time in MMOs mate. World of warcraft? a guild controls SMV or BEM for a week.. make several thousand gold easily... (or 10times that heh) DAOC it happens all too much :( ive seen it happen in FF11. get used to it. happens in every MMO. if you really feel bad about it get 2dozen battleships and start bumping them all over the place. 2 BS ea and bump em off the cans 3min before they appear. :P no, its not griefplay. thats the game mechanics. If you can PROVE beyond a doubt they are using macros to achieve this.. well theyve smashed the EULA. but thats up to the GMs & CCP to decide. also, seems those rats are tanked... why dont you just go in and kill them? free isk anyone? come on you can think of something ;)



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