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blkmajik ZiTek Deepspace Explorations Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2007.10.20 07:04:00 - [31] Why dont you offer him double or nothing for 12 more days?
James Grand Knights of Chaos Chaos Incarnate.	Posted - 2007.10.20 07:21:00 - [32] Originally by: Xipious Oash Originally by: Alias11 I'm trying to quantify how far you missed the point but my calculator screws up when it goes past 10^100 I can't figure out which is funnier. The burn, or how he is totally unable to see it. I guess I don't "get" goon humor. Seriously though, I take that as a compliment. -------------------------------------------------- The opinions expressed in my posts are entirely my own.
Paulson The Fated Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2007.10.20 07:23:00 - [33] Originally by: Pilk Originally by: Slayton Ford I'd say this bet is null and void. The intention of the bet (I assume) was who would win the fight over FAT. The fact that there was no way for Tyrrax to win the bet should mean the bet is voided. Ah, finally, a reasonable version of the "LOL HE SHOULDN'T PAY STFU BOB HAXOR" post. Now I can respond. Basically, Tyrrax (and IAC, -A-, GOON, etc.) had the chance to defend (and then, after we took sov, to take back) FAT- for the last month. This is similar to not paying your alliance bill until the last possible minute, and then getting screwed over by an extended DT. I'm reminded of a rule in (Americans: Soccer, Everyone else: Football) which says that the ref is a part of the field. If the ball hits the ref and enters the goal, it's a goal, same as if it hit a bump in the field before entering the goal. We're all playing on the same server and had equal chance to (re-)take the station. IAC did not do so. Therefore, I win. --P The analogy does not work as the game is sill going on when the ball hits the ref. In the case of the bet with Tyrrax a halt had been made on the game which made it impossible to forfill the rules of the bet. It automatically defaulted as there was no game. Also in most cases of extended downtime players are either warned in advance or given a good eta on the resumption of normal services. that did not happen in this case. =============================================== Are we there yet?
Vaarmoth Malinigvious Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.10.20 07:25:00 - [34] Originally by: Enkryption To be honest, if it was me, I'd go double or nothing on another month, because circumstances outside of the players control prevented the destruction of towers which would have caused the system to go neutral, making neither side win the bet. But that's just me. So, its a foregone conclusion that we would have lost the towers? He lost the bet, there were no what-ifs involved. You know damn well if the shoe was on the other foot you'd be demanding he'd pay. Drop the partisan **** and acknowledge he won.
Sasha Evergreen Gallente Sand Castle Generals	Posted - 2007.10.20 07:28:00 - [35] Originally by: Vaarmoth Malinigvious Originally by: Enkryption To be honest, if it was me, I'd go double or nothing on another month, because circumstances outside of the players control prevented the destruction of towers which would have caused the system to go neutral, making neither side win the bet. But that's just me. So, its a foregone conclusion that we would have lost the towers? He lost the bet, there were no what-ifs involved. You know damn well if the shoe was on the other foot you'd be demanding he'd pay. Drop the partisan **** and acknowledge he won. Silly bobbit, you're on borrowed time
Vaarmoth Malinigvious Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.10.20 07:32:00 - [36] Originally by: Sasha Evergreen Originally by: Vaarmoth Malinigvious Originally by: Enkryption To be honest, if it was me, I'd go double or nothing on another month, because circumstances outside of the players control prevented the destruction of towers which would have caused the system to go neutral, making neither side win the bet. But that's just me. So, its a foregone conclusion that we would have lost the towers? He lost the bet, there were no what-ifs involved. You know damn well if the shoe was on the other foot you'd be demanding he'd pay. Drop the partisan ** and acknowledge he won. Silly bobbit, you're on borrowed time oh no If we lose every station I'll still login and blow up your main. Atleast have some ***** balls noob.
Enkryption	Posted - 2007.10.20 07:34:00 - [37] Edited by: Enkryption on 20/10/2007 07:34:51 Originally by: Vaarmoth Malinigvious Originally by: Enkryption To be honest, if it was me, I'd go double or nothing on another month, because circumstances outside of the players control prevented the destruction of towers which would have caused the system to go neutral, making neither side win the bet. But that's just me. So, its a foregone conclusion that we would have lost the towers? He lost the bet, there were no what-ifs involved. You know damn well if the shoe was on the other foot you'd be demanding he'd pay. Drop the partisan **** and acknowledge he won. And you're saying with 100% certainty that you'd have saved all towers, or even one tower? Give me a break No one can know for certain, which would put the bet to null. I simply suggested, giving the circumstances, that a double or nothing bet should be placed on another 30 days. The fact that Pilk hasn't come here and said he'd give TT another thirty days on a double or nothing bet seems to give an indication that he (Pilk) doesn't believe you'd of held the system had the server not gone down. But hey, it's not my bet.
Jurgurtha O RLY corp YTMND.	Posted - 2007.10.20 07:37:00 - [38] Originally by: Vaarmoth Malinigvious Originally by: Sasha Evergreen Originally by: Vaarmoth Malinigvious Originally by: Enkryption To be honest, if it was me, I'd go double or nothing on another month, because circumstances outside of the players control prevented the destruction of towers which would have caused the system to go neutral, making neither side win the bet. But that's just me. So, its a foregone conclusion that we would have lost the towers? He lost the bet, there were no what-ifs involved. You know damn well if the shoe was on the other foot you'd be demanding he'd pay. Drop the partisan ** and acknowledge he won. Silly bobbit, you're on borrowed time oh no If we lose every station I'll still login and blow up your main. Atleast have some ***** balls noob. lol sorry... but alt done got owned
Vaarmoth Malinigvious Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.10.20 07:37:00 - [39] Originally by: Enkryption Edited by: Enkryption on 20/10/2007 07:36:24 Originally by: Vaarmoth Malinigvious Originally by: Enkryption To be honest, if it was me, I'd go double or nothing on another month, because circumstances outside of the players control prevented the destruction of towers which would have caused the system to go neutral, making neither side win the bet. But that's just me. So, its a foregone conclusion that we would have lost the towers? He lost the bet, there were no what-ifs involved. You know damn well if the shoe was on the other foot you'd be demanding he'd pay. Drop the partisan **** and acknowledge he won. And you're saying with 100% certainty that you'd have saved all towers, or even one tower? Give me a break No one can know for certain, which would put the bet to null. I simply suggested, giving the circumstances, that a double or nothing bet should be placed on another 30 days. The fact that Pilk hasn't come here and said he'd give TT another thirty days on a double or nothing bet seems to give an indication that he (Pilk) doesn't believe you'd of held the system had the server not gone down. But hey, it's not my bet/e-honor/e-peen/whatever on the line (or chopping block ). Pilk won the bet.
Deaell Portt Koshaku Interstellar Starbase Syndicate	Posted - 2007.10.20 07:38:00 - [40] Hmm, im think is not honest change bet cirmustances. When Plik make bet he dont know about extended DT also Tyrrax dont know that . Damn, u remeber month ago when server have rollback every day. I shoot to that same poses for one week. Shi* happends. Life etc. etc. But i be in Fat before server emergency shut down and i dont see hostile trying kill BoB pos. Most poses going from reinforce before dt, and one soon after dt. Server work to 2 pm. So, for me is simple: Word is word and Bet is Bet. Sorry for my english, is not my native language. Congratz Pilk for winning bet.
blkmajik ZiTek Deepspace Explorations Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2007.10.20 07:41:00 - [41] You say that he pays you if someone else holds fat and you pay him if he holds. Well, it could be argued that while BoB has sov superiority, they do NOT hold fat. Controlling docking rights at the station != holding the system. Just ask RISE :) So, in that respect, isn't it a wash, at best? Again, if your confident, offer a double or nothing for another week or two.
Ponderous Thunderstroke Republic War Machine Industries	Posted - 2007.10.20 07:42:00 - [42] Originally by: Enkryption To be honest, if it was me, I'd go double or nothing on another month, because circumstances outside of the players control prevented the destruction of towers which would have caused the system to go neutral, making neither side win the bet. But that's just me. If Tyrrax wanted to go that route, I would personally secure his end of the bet.
Vaarmoth Malinigvious Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.10.20 07:43:00 - [43] Originally by: blkmajik You say that he pays you if someone else holds fat and you pay him if he holds. Well, it could be argued that while BoB has sov superiority, they do NOT hold fat. Controlling docking rights at the station != holding the system. Just ask RISE :) So, in that respect, isn't it a wash, at best? Again, if your confident, offer a double or nothing for another week or two. lol
Destruct Octavian Vanguard RAZOR Alliance	Posted - 2007.10.20 07:44:00 - [44] eve-mail ftw You can get more of what you want with a kind word and a gun than you can with just a kind word. - Al Capone
Enkryption	Posted - 2007.10.20 07:44:00 - [45] Originally by: Vaarmoth Malinigvious Originally by: Enkryption Edited by: Enkryption on 20/10/2007 07:36:24 Originally by: Vaarmoth Malinigvious Originally by: Enkryption To be honest, if it was me, I'd go double or nothing on another month, because circumstances outside of the players control prevented the destruction of towers which would have caused the system to go neutral, making neither side win the bet. But that's just me. So, its a foregone conclusion that we would have lost the towers? He lost the bet, there were no what-ifs involved. You know damn well if the shoe was on the other foot you'd be demanding he'd pay. Drop the partisan **** and acknowledge he won. And you're saying with 100% certainty that you'd have saved all towers, or even one tower? Give me a break No one can know for certain, which would put the bet to null. I simply suggested, giving the circumstances, that a double or nothing bet should be placed on another 30 days. The fact that Pilk hasn't come here and said he'd give TT another thirty days on a double or nothing bet seems to give an indication that he (Pilk) doesn't believe you'd of held the system had the server not gone down. But hey, it's not my bet/e-honor/e-peen/whatever on the line (or chopping block ). Pilk won the bet. Seems you don't have much faith in your Alliance being able to hold FAT for another month either, though I can't say I blame you. MC isn't holding your hand anymore.
fire 59 Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.10.20 07:46:00 - [46] Originally by: James Grand Edited by: James Grand on 20/10/2007 06:31:29 The bet was that FAT would be in BoB's hands as of a certain day (I assume today) right? The station is in BoB's hands so it looks like Pilk wins. Also, stop with these stupid, baseless allegations that BoB hacked the server. You're only making yourselves sound like idiots. Edit: Looks like I was too slow. Read what Pilk said above. I immediately thought of one entity who would do something like this coz they can and would find it funny/ have tried to ruin the game before Random Goon - 'Why don't you kickbox me about it, after your dad has killed himself of course'
Martin VanBuren GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.10.20 07:59:00 - [47] Edited by: Martin VanBuren on 20/10/2007 07:58:45 Originally by: James Grand Originally by: Xipious Oash Originally by: Alias11 I'm trying to quantify how far you missed the point but my calculator screws up when it goes past 10^100 I can't figure out which is funnier. The burn, or how he is totally unable to see it. I guess I don't "get" goon humor. Seriously though, I take that as a compliment. The joke is axe. They are the joke.
Ponderous Thunderstroke Republic War Machine Industries	Posted - 2007.10.20 08:00:00 - [48] A long-running joke, no less. "We are the PVP wing of ASCN..."
Dr Ming Mindworks	Posted - 2007.10.20 08:08:00 - [49] Ok, I'm going to just toss in my two cents on my 'man' rules findings on this matter. The server being shut down because of a hacker is clearly an internet spaceship version of an act of god. Trying to claim a bet under these circumstances just reeks of desperation. Offer to up the bet to 1 bil, extend the time frame, and settle the bet. Stop crying about how you won the bet when you clearly didn't. The purpose of a bet is to settle an issue in a convincing manner, not to lawyer your way into winning it.
Sasha Evergreen Gallente Sand Castle Generals	Posted - 2007.10.20 08:10:00 - [50] Originally by: Vaarmoth Malinigvious Originally by: Sasha Evergreen Silly bobbit, you're on borrowed time oh no If we lose every station I'll still login and blow up your main. Atleast have some ******* balls noob. silly bobbit, girls have no balls, I guess you wouldn't know
Jurgurtha O RLY corp YTMND.	Posted - 2007.10.20 08:10:00 - [51] Originally by: Dr Ming Ok, I'm going to just toss in my two cents on my 'man' rules findings on this matter. The server being shut down because of a hacker is clearly an internet spaceship version of an act of god. Trying to claim a bet under these circumstances just reeks of desperation. Offer to up the bet to 1 bil, extend the time frame, and settle the bet. Stop crying about how you won the bet when you clearly didn't. The purpose of a bet is to settle an issue in a convincing manner, not to lawyer your way into winning it. This
arthell Freelancer Alliance	Posted - 2007.10.20 08:23:00 - [52] From a random nobody that got the jist of the bet and ignored the rest of the thread: For however long the servers were inaccessible during the bet, the same amount of time should have been added onto the remaining time for the bet when the servers came back up. Trying to claim you successfully defended the system during a downtime Trying to claim the bet is completely null and void because of the downtime
Nahia Senne Black Eclipse Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.10.20 08:31:00 - [53] Once Tyrrax pays off his gambling debts, a new bet cant be made. Until debts are paid in full, i see no reason why you should gamble with people who refuse to pay.
Necronomicon Caldari KIA Corp KIA Alliance	Posted - 2007.10.20 08:43:00 - [54] Originally by: Nahia Senne Once Tyrrax pays off his gambling debts, a new bet cant be made. Until debts are paid in full, i see no reason why you should gamble with people who refuse to pay. Funny, I have not seen a single post from Tyrrax attempting to back out of any bet, all I have seen in the few small hours since the OP is ppl on both sides and alts arguing about it. I would wait for a response from the man himself before laying down accusations against his ehonour ;) Carlsberg dont make Eve Pilots, but if they did, i wouldnt be one of them.
Enkryption	Posted - 2007.10.20 08:44:00 - [55] Originally by: Nahia Senne Once Tyrrax pays off his gambling debts, a new bet cant be made. Until debts are paid in full, i see no reason why you should gamble with people who refuse to pay. I have no doubt TT would pay the bet, but Pilk should give him the chance to win it back with a double or nothing, given the circumstances.
Centauris Thundercats RAZOR Alliance	Posted - 2007.10.20 08:48:00 - [56] With the servers getting fuxored, id say the bet is null and void also, get over it pilk, no one won anything.
Stoned Celt Bloodnok Technologies	Posted - 2007.10.20 08:53:00 - [57] Originally by: Enkryption Originally by: Nahia Senne Once Tyrrax pays off his gambling debts, a new bet cant be made. Until debts are paid in full, i see no reason why you should gamble with people who refuse to pay. I have no doubt TT would pay the bet, but Pilk should give him the chance to win it back with a double or nothing, given the circumstances. Why should he? Anyway, would sov have flipped over today even if the Coalition had destroyed all the towers? If not the whole extended DT argument is moot. *"I told you I was ill"* - Epitaph on Spike Milligan's Tombstone.
Enkryption	Posted - 2007.10.20 08:58:00 - [58] Originally by: Stoned Celt Originally by: Enkryption Originally by: Nahia Senne Once Tyrrax pays off his gambling debts, a new bet cant be made. Until debts are paid in full, i see no reason why you should gamble with people who refuse to pay. I have no doubt TT would pay the bet, but Pilk should give him the chance to win it back with a double or nothing, given the circumstances. Why should he? Anyway, would sov have flipped over today even if the Coalition had destroyed all the towers? If not the whole extended DT argument is moot. Not really. Usually bets of this nature end at the end of the day on the last day. Downtime today would put Sov to neutral had they been destroyed, which happens before the end of the day.
Blacky NeugaR NeugaR Tribe	Posted - 2007.10.20 09:15:00 - [59] This is just a question about honour nothing more. and this is only something betwhen tyrrax and pilk and how they resolve it is up to them we can kick back and watch them go at it ;)
Pesadel0 Ordem dos Templarios Pax Atlantis	Posted - 2007.10.20 09:17:00 - [60] Pilk won.

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