Originally by: Levka

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I like where this thread is going

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Originally by: Slayton Ford

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I'd say this bet is null and void. The intention of the bet (I assume) was who would win the fight over FAT. The fact that there was no way for Tyrrax to win the bet should mean the bet is voided.

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Originally by: Gabriel Roberts

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I believe this bet should be honored, clearly FAT who not have been held without the efforts of axe.

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Originally by: Centauris

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hahaha This thread delivers........Absolutely Nothing!

Fail!

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Originally by: Brunswick2

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If Tyraxx pays up, then Velios should pay up for his bet.

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Originally by: Alias11

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So how much does it cost to buy relevance and dignity back?

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Originally by: Alias11

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So how much does it cost to buy relevance and dignity back?

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Originally by: James Grand

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Originally by: Alias11

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So how much does it cost to buy relevance and dignity back?

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I sincerely doubt Goonswarm has any to sell.

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Originally by: James Grand

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Originally by: Alias11

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So how much does it cost to buy relevance and dignity back?

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I sincerely doubt Goonswarm has any to sell.

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Originally by: Martin VanBuren

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Originally by: James Grand

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Originally by: Alias11

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So how much does it cost to buy relevance and dignity back?

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I sincerely doubt Goonswarm has any to sell.

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It is pretty neat that a goon burn just flew over your head

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Originally by: James Grand

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Originally by: Martin VanBuren

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Originally by: James Grand

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Originally by: Alias11

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So how much does it cost to buy relevance and dignity back?

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I sincerely doubt Goonswarm has any to sell.

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It is pretty neat that a goon burn just flew over your head

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If the point of the post was that Goons had lost their relevance and dignity because Tyrrax lost this bet, then yes, I did misnterpret it. However, that also would make no sense seeing as how Goons are pretty much a third party to this whole issue. Of course, I suppose it wouldn't be a proper "goon burn" if it made sense.

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Originally by: Alias11

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I'm trying to quantify how far you missed the point but my calculator screws up when it goes past 10^100

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Originally by: Xipious Oash

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Originally by: Alias11

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I'm trying to quantify how far you missed the point but my calculator screws up when it goes past 10^100

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I can't figure out which is funnier. The burn, or how he is totally unable to see it.

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Originally by: Pilk

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Originally by: Slayton Ford

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I'd say this bet is null and void. The intention of the bet (I assume) was who would win the fight over FAT. The fact that there was no way for Tyrrax to win the bet should mean the bet is voided.

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Ah, finally, a reasonable version of the "LOL HE SHOULDN'T PAY STFU BOB HAXOR" post. Now I can respond.

Basically, Tyrrax (and IAC, -A-, GOON, etc.) had the chance to defend (and then, after we took sov, to take back) FAT- for the last month. This is similar to not paying your alliance bill until the last possible minute, and then getting screwed over by an extended DT. I'm reminded of a rule in (Americans: Soccer, Everyone else: Football) which says that the ref is a part of the field. If the ball hits the ref and enters the goal, it's a goal, same as if it hit a bump in the field before entering the goal. We're all playing on the same server and had equal chance to (re-)take the station. IAC did not do so. Therefore, I win.

--P

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Originally by: Enkryption

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To be honest, if it was me, I'd go double or nothing on another month, because circumstances outside of the players control prevented the destruction of towers which would have caused the system to go neutral, making neither side win the bet.


But that's just me.

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Originally by: Vaarmoth Malinigvious

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Originally by: Enkryption

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To be honest, if it was me, I'd go double or nothing on another month, because circumstances outside of the players control prevented the destruction of towers which would have caused the system to go neutral, making neither side win the bet.


But that's just me.

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So, its a foregone conclusion that we would have lost the towers?

He lost the bet, there were no what-ifs involved. You know damn well if the shoe was on the other foot you'd be demanding he'd pay. Drop the partisan **** and acknowledge he won.

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Originally by: Sasha Evergreen

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Originally by: Vaarmoth Malinigvious

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Originally by: Enkryption

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To be honest, if it was me, I'd go double or nothing on another month, because circumstances outside of the players control prevented the destruction of towers which would have caused the system to go neutral, making neither side win the bet.


But that's just me.

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So, its a foregone conclusion that we would have lost the towers?

He lost the bet, there were no what-ifs involved. You know damn well if the shoe was on the other foot you'd be demanding he'd pay. Drop the partisan **** and acknowledge he won.

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Silly bobbit, you're on borrowed time

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Originally by: Vaarmoth Malinigvious

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Originally by: Enkryption

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To be honest, if it was me, I'd go double or nothing on another month, because circumstances outside of the players control prevented the destruction of towers which would have caused the system to go neutral, making neither side win the bet.


But that's just me.

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So, its a foregone conclusion that we would have lost the towers?

He lost the bet, there were no what-ifs involved. You know damn well if the shoe was on the other foot you'd be demanding he'd pay. Drop the partisan **** and acknowledge he won.

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Originally by: Vaarmoth Malinigvious

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Originally by: Sasha Evergreen

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Originally by: Vaarmoth Malinigvious

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Originally by: Enkryption

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To be honest, if it was me, I'd go double or nothing on another month, because circumstances outside of the players control prevented the destruction of towers which would have caused the system to go neutral, making neither side win the bet.


But that's just me.

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So, its a foregone conclusion that we would have lost the towers?

He lost the bet, there were no what-ifs involved. You know damn well if the shoe was on the other foot you'd be demanding he'd pay. Drop the partisan **** and acknowledge he won.

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Silly bobbit, you're on borrowed time

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oh no

If we lose every station I'll still login and blow up your main. Atleast have some ******* balls noob.

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Originally by: Enkryption

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Edited by: Enkryption on 20/10/2007 07:36:24

Originally by: Vaarmoth Malinigvious

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Originally by: Enkryption

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To be honest, if it was me, I'd go double or nothing on another month, because circumstances outside of the players control prevented the destruction of towers which would have caused the system to go neutral, making neither side win the bet.


But that's just me.

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So, its a foregone conclusion that we would have lost the towers?

He lost the bet, there were no what-ifs involved. You know damn well if the shoe was on the other foot you'd be demanding he'd pay. Drop the partisan **** and acknowledge he won.

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And you're saying with 100% certainty that you'd have saved all towers, or even one tower? Give me a break

No one can know for certain, which would put the bet to null. I simply suggested, giving the circumstances, that a double or nothing bet should be placed on another 30 days. The fact that Pilk hasn't come here and said he'd give TT another thirty days on a double or nothing bet seems to give an indication that he (Pilk) doesn't believe you'd of held the system had the server not gone down.

But hey, it's not my bet/e-honor/e-peen/whatever on the line (or chopping block ).

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Originally by: Enkryption

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To be honest, if it was me, I'd go double or nothing on another month, because circumstances outside of the players control prevented the destruction of towers which would have caused the system to go neutral, making neither side win the bet.


But that's just me.

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Originally by: blkmajik

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You say that he pays you if someone else holds fat and you pay him if he holds. Well, it could be argued that while BoB has sov superiority, they do NOT hold fat. Controlling docking rights at the station != holding the system. Just ask RISE :) So, in that respect, isn't it a wash, at best?

Again, if your confident, offer a double or nothing for another week or two.

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Originally by: Vaarmoth Malinigvious

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Originally by: Enkryption

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Edited by: Enkryption on 20/10/2007 07:36:24

Originally by: Vaarmoth Malinigvious

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Originally by: Enkryption

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To be honest, if it was me, I'd go double or nothing on another month, because circumstances outside of the players control prevented the destruction of towers which would have caused the system to go neutral, making neither side win the bet.


But that's just me.

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So, its a foregone conclusion that we would have lost the towers?

He lost the bet, there were no what-ifs involved. You know damn well if the shoe was on the other foot you'd be demanding he'd pay. Drop the partisan **** and acknowledge he won.

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And you're saying with 100% certainty that you'd have saved all towers, or even one tower? Give me a break

No one can know for certain, which would put the bet to null. I simply suggested, giving the circumstances, that a double or nothing bet should be placed on another 30 days. The fact that Pilk hasn't come here and said he'd give TT another thirty days on a double or nothing bet seems to give an indication that he (Pilk) doesn't believe you'd of held the system had the server not gone down.

But hey, it's not my bet/e-honor/e-peen/whatever on the line (or chopping block ).

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Pilk won the bet.

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Originally by: James Grand

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Edited by: James Grand on 20/10/2007 06:31:29
The bet was that FAT would be in BoB's hands as of a certain day (I assume today) right? The station is in BoB's hands so it looks like Pilk wins.

Also, stop with these stupid, baseless allegations that BoB hacked the server. You're only making yourselves sound like idiots.

Edit: Looks like I was too slow. Read what Pilk said above.

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Originally by: James Grand

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Originally by: Xipious Oash

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Originally by: Alias11

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I'm trying to quantify how far you missed the point but my calculator screws up when it goes past 10^100

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I can't figure out which is funnier. The burn, or how he is totally unable to see it.

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I guess I don't "get" goon humor.

Seriously though, I take that as a compliment.

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Originally by: Vaarmoth Malinigvious

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Originally by: Sasha Evergreen

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Silly bobbit, you're on borrowed time

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oh no

If we lose every station I'll still login and blow up your main. Atleast have some ******* balls noob.

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Originally by: Dr Ming

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Ok, I'm going to just toss in my two cents on my 'man' rules findings on this matter.


The server being shut down because of a hacker is clearly an internet spaceship version of an act of god.

Trying to claim a bet under these circumstances just reeks of desperation.

Offer to up the bet to 1 bil, extend the time frame, and settle the bet. Stop crying about how you won the bet when you clearly didn't.

The purpose of a bet is to settle an issue in a convincing manner, not to lawyer your way into winning it.

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Originally by: Nahia Senne

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Once Tyrrax pays off his gambling debts, a new bet cant be made. Until debts are paid in full, i see no reason why you should gamble with people who refuse to pay.

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Originally by: Nahia Senne

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Once Tyrrax pays off his gambling debts, a new bet cant be made. Until debts are paid in full, i see no reason why you should gamble with people who refuse to pay.

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Originally by: Enkryption

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Originally by: Nahia Senne

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Once Tyrrax pays off his gambling debts, a new bet cant be made. Until debts are paid in full, i see no reason why you should gamble with people who refuse to pay.

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I have no doubt TT would pay the bet, but Pilk should give him the chance to win it back with a double or nothing, given the circumstances.

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Originally by: Stoned Celt

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Originally by: Enkryption

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Originally by: Nahia Senne

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Once Tyrrax pays off his gambling debts, a new bet cant be made. Until debts are paid in full, i see no reason why you should gamble with people who refuse to pay.

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I have no doubt TT would pay the bet, but Pilk should give him the chance to win it back with a double or nothing, given the circumstances.

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Why should he?
Anyway, would sov have flipped over today even if the Coalition had destroyed all the towers? If not the whole extended DT argument is moot.

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Originally by: Vaarmoth Malinigvious

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He lost the bet, there were no what-ifs involved. You know damn well if the shoe was on the other foot you'd be demanding he'd pay. Drop the partisan **** and acknowledge he won.

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Originally by: torN Deception

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It's bad enough BoB feels it can start posting again every time it wins a single fleet battle. Now you've got to stop using your CAOD alts and smack on your mains every time unscheduled downtime saves your ass?

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Originally by: fire 59

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Trying to include smallprint after the bet has been won is mute tbh. Live and learn

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Originally by: Slayton Ford

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I'd say this bet is null and void. The intention of the bet (I assume) was who would win the fight over FAT. The fact that there was no way for Tyrrax to win the bet should mean the bet is voided.

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Originally by: Depp Knight

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If however the bet was æwhoever doesnÆt hold fat- by xyz date (which happens to be today) then the bet should be honoured, as you said, both teams are playing on the same field.

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Originally by: Cmd Woodlouse

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What i dont get is, why dont you send him an evemail? I mean its just one person?

But you arent rly interested in the money, it seems you are more interested in boasting over an extended DT

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Originally by: Tweedle Dum

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Edited by: Tweedle Dum on 20/10/2007 11:26:19
This is honestly like saying a team loses a football game because of one bad call at the end of the game. Nevermind the other 59 minutes of play where they didn't bother to win the game, it was that last call on the final play that cost them the game.

Bet was, station would be IAC's on the 20th. Whether or not AAA destroyed our towers is beyond the point. For one, the station would in all practicality be AAA's; even if IAC we're graciously given the final blow upon seiging it, the system sov would have been AAA. IAC's own forums admit their unstellar performance in FAT and have admitted that AAA basically bailed them out to some extent (i.e. they didn't manage to keep IAC sov) with such a large fighting force.

And by the by, Last time that system hit 840 odd people, about 320 of which were bob and friends, I seem to remember BoB and pals coming out the very clear victors. So why all the sudden must AAA be the favorites yesterday? Were you planning on 1000 in local this time? Maybe 2000?

In all honesty, knowing both the pilots well enough to know that 500 mil is a drop in the bucket for either, TT should just man up and pay it. Sadly, everyone and their brother decided to come here and ***** and moan about what might have been rather than what is.

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Originally by: Tweedle Dum

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For one, the station would in all practicality be AAA's

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Originally by: Tweedle Dum

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Sadly, everyone and their brother decided to come here and ***** and moan about what might have been rather than what is.

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Originally by: DenverThe LastDinosaur

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Originally by: Tweedle Dum

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Edited by: Tweedle Dum on 20/10/2007 11:26:19
This is honestly like saying a team loses a football game because of one bad call at the end of the game. Nevermind the other 59 minutes of play where they didn't bother to win the game, it was that last call on the final play that cost them the game.

Bet was, station would be IAC's on the 20th. Whether or not AAA destroyed our towers is beyond the point. For one, the station would in all practicality be AAA's; even if IAC we're graciously given the final blow upon seiging it, the system sov would have been AAA. IAC's own forums admit their unstellar performance in FAT and have admitted that AAA basically bailed them out to some extent (i.e. they didn't manage to keep IAC sov) with such a large fighting force.

And by the by, Last time that system hit 840 odd people, about 320 of which were bob and friends, I seem to remember BoB and pals coming out the very clear victors. So why all the sudden must AAA be the favorites yesterday? Were you planning on 1000 in local this time? Maybe 2000?

In all honesty, knowing both the pilots well enough to know that 500 mil is a drop in the bucket for either, TT should just man up and pay it. Sadly, everyone and their brother decided to come here and ***** and moan about what might have been rather than what is.

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Im not even gonna talk about the bet, but this is clearly a flamebait, and a ******** one.
IAC had to bring in friends to defend against MC, BOB, FIX, AXE, D-L and the rest? OMG ZOMG N00oBS!
And yes, i have no doubt that the coalition can field 1000 pilots now that RISE is dead, and without MC's cap fleet it looks like BOB will be in trouble.
And talking about AAA doing all the work just makes me laught, as if AXE made any diffrence in the FAT assault.

In all honesty, please stop posting **** flamebaits.

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If Plink didn't want people discussing the bet, he should probably not have posted it in a public forum called corporation and alliance discussion, now should he?

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Originally by: Cmd Woodlouse

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What i dont get is, why dont you send him an evemail? I mean its just one person?

But you arent rly interested in the money, it seems you are more interested in boasting over an extended DT

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Originally by: Tweedle Dum

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No I think it was for a laugh. Sadly, you guys can't handle that.

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Originally by: Kasak Black

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Axiom Empire.

lol

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Originally by: welsh wizard

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I don't think you should pay him because hes an irritating prat.

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Originally by: Tweedle Dum

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Edited by: Tweedle Dum on 20/10/2007 11:26:19
This is honestly like saying a team loses a football game because of one bad call at the end of the game. Nevermind the other 59 minutes of play where they didn't bother to win the game, it was that last call on the final play that cost them the game.

Bet was, station would be IAC's on the 20th. Whether or not AAA destroyed our towers is beyond the point. For one, the station would in all practicality be AAA's; even if IAC we're graciously given the final blow upon seiging it, the system sov would have been AAA. IAC's own forums admit their unstellar performance in FAT and have admitted that AAA basically bailed them out to some extent (i.e. they didn't manage to keep IAC sov) with such a large fighting force.

And by the by, Last time that system hit 840 odd people, about 320 of which were bob and friends, I seem to remember BoB and pals coming out the very clear victors. So why all the sudden must AAA be the favorites yesterday? Were you planning on 1000 in local this time? Maybe 2000?

In all honesty, knowing both the pilots well enough to know that 500 mil is a drop in the bucket for either, TT should just man up and pay it. Sadly, everyone and their brother decided to come here and ***** and moan about what might have been rather than what is.

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Originally by: Cmd Woodlouse

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What i dont get is, why dont you send him an evemail? I mean its just one person?

But you arent rly interested in the money, it seems you are more interested in boasting over an extended DT

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Originally by: Yazoul Samaiel

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Originally by: Cmd Woodlouse

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What i dont get is, why dont you send him an evemail? I mean its just one person?

But you arent rly interested in the money, it seems you are more interested in boasting over an extended DT

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Maybe coz he posted on COAD like a pompus peacock saying that he is betting that FAT wont fall ? Now its time that he eats his own words

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Originally by: Rae'vun

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I've been following this bet for a while now, and I have to throw in my 0.02 isk.

First off: The bet was accepted by both sides. This means that voiding it is out of the question. The bet entailed that if FAT was in BoB hands by today, Tyrrax would pay 500 mill to Pilk. If this was not the case, Pilk would pay Tyrrax.

Up until now: So far so good.

However, your analogy to alliance bills doesn't fly, simply because as someone else has stated "The game was still going".

All of FAT's towers were reinforced, to come out yesterday. Seeing as how the server was down the entire afternoon, the towers were saved and FAT remained in your hands.

The problem with this is that there is no way of telling how things would have went.

A better analogy would be a soccer match where IACRAA had the ball, 10 steps from the goal with no defenders in sight except the goalie. Just as the player shoots, referee whistles to halt the game because there's rain incoming.

Now, the difference is: In football this would have been cause for a major uproar. That's why given the circumstances, I'm somewhat dissapointed in Pilk for posting this in the first place, knowing full well the terms of the bet and the recent events.

I fully believe that this bet should NOT be voided. You don't agree to a bet with all of the risks involved if you are going to cancel it later, no matter what the reason.

Currently I see no other alternative but to extend the bet by a number of days agreed upon between Tyrrax and Pilk. Double or nothing could apply, again: Depending on the two opposing parties. I'd recommend around 7 days extension, more if you decide to go double or nothing.

Anyway, that's my thoughts concerning the issue.

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Originally by: Achaiah

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It is IMO not unlikely that Pilk pretty much won that bet due to the extended downtime. It's a bit unfair and boring, but not much to do about it. Pilk could have decided to be graceful about it but did not, so just pay the man and the rest of Eve is saved from a long smacking thread filled with gloating and crap.

It's a good bet that Pilk and his pals are more in need of extra ISK anyway.

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Originally by: Rae'vun

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I've been following this bet for a while now, and I have to throw in my 0.02 isk.

First off: The bet was accepted by both sides. This means that voiding it is out of the question. The bet entailed that if FAT was in BoB hands by today, Tyrrax would pay 500 mill to Pilk. If this was not the case, Pilk would pay Tyrrax.

Up until now: So far so good.

However, your analogy to alliance bills doesn't fly, simply because as someone else has stated "The game was still going".

All of FAT's towers were reinforced, to come out yesterday. Seeing as how the server was down the entire afternoon, the towers were saved and FAT remained in your hands.

The problem with this is that there is no way of telling how things would have went.

A better analogy would be a soccer match where IACRAA had the ball, 10 steps from the goal with no defenders in sight except the goalie. Just as the player shoots, referee whistles to halt the game because there's rain incoming.

Now, the difference is: In football this would have been cause for a major uproar. That's why given the circumstances, I'm somewhat dissapointed in Pilk for posting this in the first place, knowing full well the terms of the bet and the recent events.

I fully believe that this bet should NOT be voided. You don't agree to a bet with all of the risks involved if you are going to cancel it later, no matter what the reason.

Currently I see no other alternative but to extend the bet by a number of days agreed upon between Tyrrax and Pilk. Double or nothing could apply, again: Depending on the two opposing parties. I'd recommend around 7 days extension, more if you decide to go double or nothing.

Anyway, that's my thoughts concerning the issue.

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Originally by: Depp Knight

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In terms of football (this is fun) a more reasonable way to explain it would be. If there is 10 mins left and the bob team were up 1-0 and one of their men were given a red card, meaning the IAC team would have the momentum for a comeback, which in all fairness does happen in the cruel world of football but then there was a crowd riot, which in all fairness happens in football too: P and the ref had to call the game off the team winning wins the match and not the team who had the momentum.

The fact is that there was no evidence that IAC and allies were guaranteed to take Fat- just like it was not guaranteed that the team down 1 goal would come back. If the bet were that if IAC doesnÆt hold fat- by this date then the bet would need to be paid. But because Tyrrax left it to the last day to achieve this you can sorta say ætoo little too lateÆ

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If a victory is told in detail, one can no longer distinguish it from a defeat.

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Originally by: JeanPaul Sartre

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before the other half of eve wants to wipe you out too.

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Originally by: Depp Knight

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In terms of football (this is fun) a more reasonable way to explain it would be. If there is 10 mins left and the bob team were up 1-0 and one of their men were given a red card, meaning the IAC team would have the momentum for a comeback, which in all fairness does happen in the cruel world of football but then there was a crowd riot, which in all fairness happens in football too: P and the ref had to call the game off the team winning wins the match and not the team who had the momentum.

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Originally by: JeanPaul Sartre

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This is exactly how Ladbrokes or William Hill would pay out also.

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We will not be liable or responsible for any failure to perform, or delay in performance of, any of our obligations under a Contract that is caused by events outside our reasonable control (Force Majeure Event).

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Originally by: RDevz

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Edited by: RDevz on 20/10/2007 14:06:35

Originally by: JeanPaul Sartre

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This is exactly how Ladbrokes or William Hill would pay out also.

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Also Spracht William Hill:

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We will not be liable or responsible for any failure to perform, or delay in performance of, any of our obligations under a Contract that is caused by events outside our reasonable control (Force Majeure Event).

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This isn't like a player injuring himself or getting sent off. This is a neutral third party bombing the stadium and rendering it unusable for a certain length of time.

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Originally by: JeanPaul Sartre

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Originally by: Depp Knight

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In terms of football (this is fun) a more reasonable way to explain it would be. If there is 10 mins left and the bob team were up 1-0 and one of their men were given a red card, meaning the IAC team would have the momentum for a comeback, which in all fairness does happen in the cruel world of football but then there was a crowd riot, which in all fairness happens in football too: P and the ref had to call the game off the team winning wins the match and not the team who had the momentum.

The fact is that there was no evidence that IAC and allies were guaranteed to take Fat- just like it was not guaranteed that the team down 1 goal would come back. If the bet were that if IAC doesnÆt hold fat- by this date then the bet would need to be paid. But because Tyrrax left it to the last day to achieve this you can sorta say ætoo little too lateÆ

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This is exactly how Ladbrokes or William Hill would pay out also.

I see lots of Goon rant and not much from Tyrax. Goons needs to keep out of affairs that do not involve you before the other half of eve wants to wipe you out too.

In short: PAY THE MANÖ

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Originally by: Obidios

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People saying the bet was won because of downtime are ******s. Even if IAAAAC put towers on every moon and killed all of BOB's it would still be our station today.

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Originally by: Jakiri

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Actually, this isn't the case. A 3-0 victory given against the team responsible for the pitch invasion is the standard punishment, as recently seen in Denmark - Sweden, when the ref was attacked after awarding a penalty, and the Milan derby in the Champion's League when Dida was hit by a flare. The games were 3-3 and 1-0 at the time, respectively.

Obviously the bet should go against BoB then because everyone knows BoB are dirty hackers or somesuch.

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Originally by: Moon Kitten

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What happens if he doesn't pay up?

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Originally by: Moon Kitten

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What happens if he doesn't pay up?

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Originally by: Jasese

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Originally by: Moon Kitten

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What happens if he doesn't pay up?

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Nothing. Bob still loose.

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Originally by: Orochimaru

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Aside from a couple people saying pilk won majority are BoB posting on this thread on his behalf....Pilk = Molle ? "throws on the giant tinfoil" where are axe pilots and everyone else who helped take fat that aren't posting? you guys helped to you know don't let Pilk take all the glory. Off to work let the blabbering commence.

much love for all
Oro out.

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Originally by: fire 59

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Lose what exactly?

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Originally by: Jasese

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Originally by: Moon Kitten

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What happens if he doesn't pay up?

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Nothing. Bob still loose.

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Originally by: Pilk

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Basically, Tyrrax (and IAC, -A-, GOON, etc.) had the chance to defend (and then, after we took sov, to take back) FAT- for the last month. This is similar to not paying your alliance bill until the last possible minute, and then getting screwed over by an extended DT. I'm reminded of a rule in (Americans: Soccer, Everyone else: Football) which says that the ref is a part of the field. If the ball hits the ref and enters the goal, it's a goal, same as if it hit a bump in the field before entering the goal. We're all playing on the same server and had equal chance to (re-)take the station. IAC did not do so. Therefore, I win.
--P

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Originally by: Slayton Ford

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I'd say this bet is null and void. The intention of the bet (I assume) was who would win the fight over FAT. The fact that there was no way for Tyrrax to win the bet should mean the bet is voided.

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Originally by: Please Hold

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No this isn't correct. This is a UEFA rule for certain tournaments, not a FIFA rule and certainly not upheld by the FA in England.

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Originally by: CobraBytez

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I recommend that Tyrrax not pay this bet on the grounds that AXE is a joke and it's not like he'll ever be able to hurt you anyway.

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Originally by: Moon Kitten

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What happens if he doesn't pay up?

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Originally by: Emrod

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its mean the coalition are weak ROLF, look at me I post in COAD !

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Originally by: Olli Hokkanen

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so the alliance will pay for tyrrax's mistakes by taxes
running alliance is one of best pyramid schemes ever

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Originally by: fire 59

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Originally by: Jasese

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Originally by: Moon Kitten

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What happens if he doesn't pay up?

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Nothing. Bob still loose.

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Lose what exactly?

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Originally by: ILIJA CHVOROVIC

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What does this GBC mean anyway?

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Quote:

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If a victory is told in detail, one can no longer distinguish it from a defeat.

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Originally by: Uncle ScroogeMcduck

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Thraxx lost. He'll pay and not care about the isk. I find it amusing that Goon feel the need to save him isk. If he is so broke this isk matters IAC is actually in trouble which I highly doubt. AAA will reclaim the system, Goon won't stop taking credit and bragging about how they are winning. The only real question is what happens when there is no Bob left to shoot.. does AAA shoot Goon or Goon shoot AAA. If the answer is neither eve would suck WAR is great!

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Originally by: Uncle ScroogeMcduck

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Thraxx lost. He'll pay and not care about the isk. I find it amusing that Goon feel the need to save him isk. If he is so broke this isk matters IAC is actually in trouble which I highly doubt. AAA will reclaim the system, Goon won't stop taking credit and bragging about how they are winning. The only real question is what happens when there is no Bob left to shoot.. does AAA shoot Goon or Goon shoot AAA. If the answer is neither eve would suck WAR is great!

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Originally by: Pilk

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I'll be out of town this weekend

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Originally by: Orochimaru

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Aside from a couple people saying pilk won majority are BoB posting on this thread on his behalf....Pilk = Molle ? "throws on the giant tinfoil" where are axe pilots and everyone else who helped take fat that aren't posting? you guys helped to you know don't let Pilk take all the glory. Off to work let the blabbering commence.

much love for all
Oro out.

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Originally by: Monticore D'Muertos

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please pay Pilk or he will take out on us by raising his market prices.

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Originally by: Obidios

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People saying the bet was won because of downtime are ******s. Even if IAAAAC put towers on every moon and killed all of BOB's it would still be our station today.

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Originally by: Exortius Amarrus

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Originally by: Obidios

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People saying the bet was won because of downtime are ******s. Even if IAAAAC put towers on every moon and killed all of BOB's it would still be our station today.

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This.

The bet was made in the spirit of fun and EVE drama. Given the above it should be clear that DT or no DT Pilk would have, and did, win the bet.

Tyraxx enjoys this game just as much as Pilk does, and we all know he has a sense of humour. So I don't understand why he wouldn't pay, and I find it rather funny that everyone is foaming at the mouth in this thread.

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Originally by: Lianlan Lou

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How about everyone stfu for a bit and allow Tyrrax Thorrk to make a response. Once he's either paid, or not, you may then begin the forum frenzy, where peoples heads spin around and eyes pop out of their sockets.

I personally think that he's going to pay. He's a rich dude, he made a bet, by the terms of the bet, he lost. He's not one for Whinging/crying on the forums. Looking at his track record of honoring ransoms, and expressing disappointment and disapproval of those who don't honor them, i'd say he's probably going to pay.

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Originally by: Mr Broker

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why don't you shut yer trap?

he didn't lose the bet, and that's what was being argued and won

he'd be the laughing stock of Eve if he paid

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Originally by: Alice Cholmondeley

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When did you hit a speed bump with your head?

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Originally by: Orebuster

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Your bitterness is a personal amusement of mine Alice, your therapist is overpaid. Find a better doctor, and you won't have to fix as many air conditioners.

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Originally by: Alice Cholmondeley

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Originally by: Orebuster

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Your bitterness is a personal amusement of mine Alice, your therapist is overpaid. Find a better doctor, and you won't have to fix as many air conditioners.

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You're a terrible poster. mlya.

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Originally by: JeanPaul Sartre

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Goons needs to keep out of affairs that do not involve you before the other half of eve wants to wipe you out too.

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Originally by: Mr Broker

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Edited by: Mr Broker on 21/10/2007 03:23:01

Originally by: Lianlan Lou

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How about everyone stfu for a bit and allow Tyrrax Thorrk to make a response. Once he's either paid, or not, you may then begin the forum frenzy, where peoples heads spin around and eyes pop out of their sockets.

I personally think that he's going to pay. He's a rich dude, he made a bet, by the terms of the bet, he lost. He's not one for Whinging/crying on the forums. Looking at his track record of honoring ransoms, and expressing disappointment and disapproval of those who don't honor them, i'd say he's probably going to pay.

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why don't you shut yer trap?

he didn't lose the bet, and that's what was being argued and won

he'd be the laughing stock of Eve if he paid

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Quote:

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That you guys have officially been trolled.

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Originally by: Centuri

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Quote:

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That you guys have officially been trolled.

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= "We didn't even want this thread anyway."

Cya.

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Originally by: Cringeley

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Originally by: Centuri

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Quote:

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That you guys have officially been trolled.

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= "We didn't even want this thread anyway."

Cya.

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Yes, yes, congratulations, you guys have won the bet thread. This is one of the most devastating and well organised Forum Actions I have ever seen.

Now you post something self important.

Alternatively, if you understand how badly this is going for you, you may attempt to Roll With It.

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Originally by: The Internetz

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Internet thread.

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If a victory is told in detail, one can no longer distinguish it from a defeat.

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Originally by: Murphy

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Originally by: Pilk

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I'll be out of town this weekend

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That's my favorite part of this thread.

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Originally by: iimethodii

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So, have we learnt a lesson today?

- Pay the **** up.

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Originally by: Mr Broker

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why don't you shut yer trap?

he didn't lose the bet, and that's what was being argued and won

he'd be the laughing stock of Eve if he paid

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Originally by: Jakiri

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I'm not sure what lesson was supposed to have been suggested by this thread, other than "Eve-o is a ****hole"

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Originally by: Avon

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It isn't Pilk's fault that, when they realised that the alliance were already in place to defend FAT, the coalition decided it was better to crash the server rather than being seen to fail at obtaining their objectives.
(Come on, it is just as likely as the claims of BoB crashing the servers.)

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Originally by: welsh wizard

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I don't think you should pay him because hes an irritating prat.

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Originally by: Night Haunter

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You mean just as likely as getting BPO's your alliance wasnt supposed to g...

oh.. wait. That really did happen unlike your little analogy. You see, BoB has been proven to be cheating****gots. Goons are just****gots on their own accord. Me? I much rather be sitting next to a****got then cheating****gots. /hug goons.

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Quote:

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If a victory is told in detail, one can no longer distinguish it from a defeat.

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Originally by: Night Haunter

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You see, BoB has been proven to be cheating****gots. Goons are just****gots on their own accord. Me? I much rather be sitting next to a****got then cheating****gots. /hug goons.

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Originally by: Ivor Gunn

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Originally by: Night Haunter

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You see, BoB has been proven to be cheating****gots. Goons are just****gots on their own accord. Me? I much rather be sitting next to a****got then cheating****gots. /hug goons.

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I think you might have a little problem with your own sexuality. Perhaps you should talk to someone about it.

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Originally by: ForsakenSoldier

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Originally by: Ivor Gunn

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Originally by: Night Haunter

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You see, BoB has been proven to be cheating****gots. Goons are just****gots on their own accord. Me? I much rather be sitting next to a****got then cheating****gots. /hug goons.

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I think you might have a little problem with your own sexuality. Perhaps you should talk to someone about it.

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I let super touch me on a daily basis. I have no problems with my sexuality.

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Originally by: wikipedia

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The essence of a gentleman's agreement is that it relies upon the honor of the parties for its fulfilment, rather than being in any way enforceable.

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Originally by: welsh wizard

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I don't think you should pay him because hes an irritating prat.

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Originally by: welsh wizard

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I don't think you should pay him because hes an irritating prat.

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Originally by: Factor Benz

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Oh Axiom, who else's accomplishments will you pretend to be a part of? That SS doesn't show AXE sov for some reason. It's likely because you're useless.

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Originally by: Mr Mirage

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Edited by: Mr Mirage on 20/10/2007 16:38:47
didnt the 500M isk tyrrax suggested get reduced to 100M isk by pilk in the 'bet thread' as half bill was too much?

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Originally by: Murphy

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Originally by: welsh wizard

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I don't think you should pay him because hes an irritating prat.

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I fully endorse the irritating prat part.

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Originally by: FireFox McProwler

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Originally by: Murphy

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Originally by: welsh wizard

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I don't think you should pay him because hes an irritating prat.

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I fully endorse the irritating prat part.

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/signed

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Originally by: The Cap'n

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This is like saying poland won wwII against the germans

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Originally by: The Cap'n

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This is like saying poland won wwII against the germans

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Originally by: Martin VanBuren

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Originally by: The Cap'n

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This is like saying poland won wwII against the germans

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Uh they kinda did

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Originally by: Thrakus

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Originally by: Martin VanBuren

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Originally by: The Cap'n

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This is like saying poland won wwII against the germans

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Uh they kinda did

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Ya they won against the germans in the same way that goons are making any progress against BoB, by bending over for the ruskies.

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Originally by: Thrakus

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Originally by: Martin VanBuren

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Originally by: The Cap'n

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This is like saying poland won wwII against the germans

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Uh they kinda did

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Ya they won against the germans in the same way that goons are making any progress against BoB, by bending over for the ruskies.

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Originally by: Deaell Portt

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"This is like saying poland won wwII against the germans" Yes, we do u silly goon. Im from Poland and im proud about that. When Germans invade us , and Russians too we go to others country and fight with enemy. Many of my family died in WWII so stfu something about u dont know notthing. I hope u got a ban from posting that crap on forum.
Few links to read about our fights:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/No._303_Polish_Fighter_Squadron
U heard about Monte Cassino? http://www.virtuti.com/order/articles/cassino.html.
Market Garden http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stanis%C5%82aw_Sosabowski
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_Polish_Armoured_Division
Warsaw uprising http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warsaw_Uprising

We fight and we win.

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Originally by: Elenor Pewpew

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Edited by: Elenor Pewpew on 22/10/2007 01:46:25
Edited by: Elenor Pewpew on 22/10/2007 01:45:10
As a Bookmaker, I feel qualified to weigh in here.

When you place a bet, you are making a contract with the bookmaker. This means that when you place the bet, you agree to the rules listed specifically at this time, with the provisions stated at the time (stake size, terms of the wager, etc) and you agree to honour the terms and conditions of the bet as stated.

The bet was, that IAC would hold the station on the 20th. There were no Act of God, Server Downtime, random kitty attack, etc, clauses in the contract, as witnessed by CAOD, and so as such, the bet stands. This is standard practice at any reputable bookmaker throughout the world.

Analogies to a soccer game or William hill are silly, because William Hill as a bookmaker has a set of defined rules, which you agree to when you place a bet with them. Their rules cover things like match cancellation, team forfeits, crowd riots, disqualification, etc. No rules regarding the bet being void or extended were agreed to in this bet, therefore the bet stands "as is".

Unfortunately everyone's going to look at my ticker and flame me, but I'd say the same thing even if bob had lost sov previously and were trying to take it back as the server went down.

Of course, still waiting to see what Tyrrax does, so all the alt flaming and trolling is moot at the moment =P

Edit: Godwins law rapidly approaching 1

Edit2: Yes, Pilk isn't a bookmaker. But I'm saying what a bookmaker WOULD do. You know. Stuff.

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Originally by: Deaell Portt

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"this is eve online though and ISS isnt poland and as far as" Yes indeed , so why u goons post crap about WWII and my country? U want insult polish people in ISS? I think u know, about polish people in ISS. Frontiers Worlds are polish corp in ISS so u most know that beacuse they in ISS for more then 2 years. Why u bring WWII to internet spaceship game if u dont want insult some people ? U see any similar to WWII in Eve Online ? As i say i hope u got ban for posting that insults about my country.

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Originally by: zilllii

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first, there is a button called "quote" when you actually quote someone.
secondly, i am not a goon and have never been one.
third, this actually is eve online a massive multiplayer online roleplaying game where you guessed it no factions called the polish.
fourth, im not insulting any polish people who might be playing the massive multiplayer game known as eve online, i am merely pointing out that you are in ISS who will not loose the stations in fountain core as you atleast cant loose those.

was that informative enough?

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Originally by: Nahia Senne

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I would like to meet your main.

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Originally by: Elohe

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Originally by: FireFox McProwler

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Originally by: Murphy

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Originally by: welsh wizard

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I don't think you should pay him because hes an irritating prat.

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I fully endorse the irritating prat part.

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/signed

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quoting the furry

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Originally by: Tevlent

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Originally by: Nahia Senne

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I would like to meet your main.

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Funny, thats what she said.

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Originally by: FireFox McProwler

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/signed

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Originally by: Deaell Portt

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"This is like saying poland won wwII against the germans" Yes, we do u silly goon. Im from Poland and im proud about that. When Germans invade us , and Russians too we go to others country and fight with enemy. Many of my family died in WWII so stfu something about u dont know notthing. I hope u got a ban from posting that crap on forum.
Few links to read about our fights:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/No._303_Polish_Fighter_Squadron
U heard about Monte Cassino? http://www.virtuti.com/order/articles/cassino.html.
Market Garden http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stanis%C5%82aw_Sosabowski
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_Polish_Armoured_Division
Warsaw uprising http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warsaw_Uprising

We fight and we win.

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Originally by: Orangir

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Originally by: FireFox McProwler

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/signed

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Stop having sex with innocent and unwilling animals you disgusting piece of filth.

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