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Drake Mezcal eXceed Inc.	Posted - 2007.10.28 12:50:00 - [361] Edited by: Drake Mezcal on 28/10/2007 12:51:57 Update : Pilk Doesnt Get Payment Seriously dude, you look quite pathetic. Yeah Yeah Yeah......he didnt pay his debt, people know. Its just no-one really gives a **** anymore and are sick of seeing you cry about it. The more ppl you see you post and update this threat the more you look like a total utter crybaby who has spat his dummy out.
Vile rat GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.10.28 13:19:00 - [362] 12 pages of bragging about winning because the game was turned off for several hours? What the hell is wrong with you?
Nahia Senne Black Eclipse Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.10.28 13:21:00 - [363] Originally by: Drake Mezcal Seriously dude, you look quite pathetic. Yeah Yeah Yeah......he didnt pay his debt, people know. Its just no-one really gives a **** anymore and are sick of seeing you cry about it. The more ppl you see you post and update this threat the more you look like a total utter crybaby who has spat his dummy out. There are basically two groups of people in this thread. First group are people making up excuses in TT's name. The second group are people laughing at the first group and TT himself. After all, he has become the joke of the month for weaseling out the way he did. Now, remove posts from the first group, and replies made by the second group. What do you get? Few very reasonable posts by Pilk.
Mitch Taylor Dark-Rising	Posted - 2007.10.28 13:22:00 - [364] Edited by: Mitch Taylor on 28/10/2007 13:21:44 I want paying for reading this rubbish. Pilk go and pod an IAC member, it will make you feel better, or take their stations... no wait?!! Mitch *signature removed - please email us to find out why (include a link) - Jacques([email protected]) www.dark-rising.co.uk
Pesadel0 Ordem dos Templarios Pax Atlantis	Posted - 2007.10.28 14:29:00 - [365] Originally by: Avon Originally by: Cringeley Nobody cares what BoB have to say on any issue anymore, especially when it's BoB's old school forum ****s from the DBP era. Well, I'd rather noone cared anymore* than desperately hoping they will care what I post even once .. but, you know, hope is what keeps us going, amirite? One day GoonFleet may get the admiration and respect that they desperately crave, but mock defensively in their cute and amusing "I didn't want that e-respect anyway" kind of a way. One day people may look at you and see beyond the deep hurt of rejection, and the facade of mockery used to hide their fear of rejection. Let me be the first to step forward and offer you the love you so desire. A mothers love. Come on Cringeley, come home with me. You room is just as you imagined it would be, and in the kitchen there are warm, freshly baked cookies, and a tall glass of the freshest cool milk. Don't wander alone in you little emo world, come with me to your new family. Come in to the light and warmth, we really want you to. We want to love you, and for you to love us back. <3
Map Screen Flat Earth Society Derek Knows Us	Posted - 2007.10.28 15:06:00 - [366] Originally by: Nahia Senne Originally by: Alias11 Them's some big words coming from the corp that exists solely as a slave to real BNC and the only attractive part of bring in it is to say that you're in Bob. Last time I checked, we weren't the one's evacuating three regions and scrambling for shelter from the howitzers Actually, the corp is one and the same. Which segment of it you will reside in is your choice. Instead of worrying about BNC, shouldn't you worry about members who try to smack others and end up defining their own alliance as complete failure? Have you considered that your own alliance has a similar relationship with MC as you claim the Goons have with RA, in that BOB couldn't make progress without MC's capital blob and kept hemmoraging space. Food for thought (don't tell Lady Scarlet though).
Taguchi Hiroko Xoth Inc Firmus Ixion	Posted - 2007.10.28 16:34:00 - [367] he's defaulting? shame.
Milena Marich	Posted - 2007.10.28 16:49:00 - [368] So he offered a bet, but you never accepted?
Cvuos GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.10.28 16:52:00 - [369] Dishonoring a bet is a dishonorable thing. You should invade his space for revenge.
YouShallKnowFear Fourty-Two	Posted - 2007.10.28 17:09:00 - [370] Anyone else remember when TT enjoyed EVE, was laid back, and lost insanely expensive ships? C'mon man, you were always one dude who didn't buy into the "serious intarweb bizness" bull**. You were always the one dude we could rely on to say "fk it" and do something just for fun. IE, this bet. When i first saw this thread (before it turned to ****), i was looking forward to a funny post from you, saying you'd paid, and with a few witty comments about how bad AXE sucks, possibly with a hint that you'd take that system back. Instead, we get a "yep", and you're suddenly super serious? wtf man. This is not the TT we have known and loved.

The Mittani GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.10.28 17:09:00 - [371] Originally by: Avon Originally by: Cringeley Nobody cares what BoB have to say on any issue anymore, especially when it's BoB's old school forum ****s from the DBP era. Well, I'd rather noone cared anymore* than desperately hoping they will care what I post even once .. but, you know, hope is what keeps us going, amirite? One day GoonFleet may get the admiration and respect that they desperately crave, but mock defensively in their cute and amusing "I didn't want that e-respect anyway" kind of a way. One day people may look at you and see beyond the deep hurt of rejection, and the facade of mockery used to hide their fear of rejection. Let me be the first to step forward and offer you the love you so desire. A mothers love. Come on Cringeley, come home with me. You room is just as you imagined it would be, and in the kitchen there are warm, freshly baked cookies, and a tall glass of the freshest cool milk. Don't wander alone in you little emo world, come with me to your new family. Come in to the light and warmth, we really want you to. We want to love you, and for you to love us back. <3 lookit all dose words this man clearly does not care
The Mittani GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.10.28 17:11:00 - [372] Originally by: Nahia Senne Originally by: Italian Wedding Once again, you attack the person instead of creating a counter argument. It seems there is a trend in the way a lot of BoB members post. Where is the counter argument in TT agreeing to a bet, then refusing to pay after he lost the said bet? Its simply stating the facts. Deal has been made and now one side refuses to go through with it. We went over this subject enough times. If you want to continue to loop through it, just re-read this thread from the start. It should satisfy you. i see that by giving your regions up you have more time to concentrate on important threads like these mad props
Empyre Domestic Reform Interstellar Starbase Syndicate	Posted - 2007.10.28 17:32:00 - [373] wow.. an iac leader not honoring a deal?! never saw this coming.. i thought they were an honorable sort you know, with all the macro harboring and such. Please stop messing with my signature!!!
The Anointed Caldari Spartan Industries Cruel Intentions	Posted - 2007.10.28 17:49:00 - [374] Principles play a part in this sort of bet. There was a way to win the bet and get the isk, and a way to win the bet and get some attention. I'm willing to bet you got the outcome you wanted.
Gone'Postal Minmatar Vengeance 8 Interceptors	Posted - 2007.10.28 17:50:00 - [375] Stupid reason for Tyrrax Thorrk not to pay, deal was made, deal should be completed. Just goes to show you can't trust noone these days. ---- \0/ CCP SlideShow Games \0/ "Eve" Proof that <1FPS games can still generate income.
WildSide Spartan Industries Cruel Intentions	Posted - 2007.10.28 18:01:00 - [376] Edited by: WildSide on 28/10/2007 18:03:31 even Im for that u should play this game for fun ect..I dont see the point makeing a bet if u doesnt keep rue word. where is the point then? even Im not gonna write a long mail about how lame ect it is...I dont see the point making any deals if u cant hold em. no-one forced u to make such a bet TT, if I have understanded right u even propused it useself. why not just accept the taste of the bitter aple and take it as man. Would have gotten my fully respect then if u had just showed up and paid whatever the deal was about right then. after all its just a game..which of all ppl u seemed to be able to understand. sometimes u lose, sometimes u win, I dont blame u for losing the betting. u did a honest attempt to win it, and well....u prob did u best, and thats all u can expect from a man. no-one can win all the time. Now..u can still save some of ure face...if u take it as a man..and pay up and say...hi guys Im sry for this late respons or something _______________________________ Vids produced by me
Havras The Syndicate Inc	Posted - 2007.10.28 18:02:00 - [377] So let's see here... There was a right way to handle it and it was as follows: Eve mail TT and work out the payment. Get the payment from TT. Make a thread declaring the bet won. There was a wrong way to handle this and it is as follows: Do it just the way you did using said bet for failed propaganda purposes. Result of the right way: You get your isk and the war goes on. Result of the wrong way: You get told to toss off, and rightly so, for being a first class prat. Your entire post wasn't about winning the bet. Your entire post was about rubbing his face in it to embarass him. I'd say all you did was embarass yourself. Quote: If an advisor says to me "My liege, he is but one man. What can one man possibly do?", I will reply "This." and kill the advisor.
WildSide Spartan Industries Cruel Intentions	Posted - 2007.10.28 18:06:00 - [378] Originally by: Havras So let's see here... There was a right way to handle it and it was as follows: Eve mail TT and work out the payment. Get the payment from TT. Make a thread declaring the bet won. There was a wrong way to handle this and it is as follows: Do it just the way you did using said bet for failed propaganda purposes. Result of the right way: You get your isk and the war goes on. Result of the wrong way: You get told to toss off, and rightly so, for being a first class prat. Your entire post wasn't about winning the bet. Your entire post was about rubbing his face in it to embarass him. I'd say all you did was embarass yourself. I must agreed that this could have been solved in a much ore less embarrising way. think it would have been best for all..just making a non-political post about keeping his word or not. or fix it by evemail, and if he didnt post write a mail mail about it. _______________________________ Vids produced by me
Mungad Caldari Infinity Enterprises Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2007.10.28 18:33:00 - [379] Originally by: Yuto Kang Just so I understand the fuzz: You (Pilk) had a bet going on with Tyrrax. Not Axiom Empire with IAC. So WTF is this thread doing in CAOD (I can spell the meaning of CAOD out for you in case you forgot). Its something between two individuals, so please shut up about it here. Send him an evemail, then smack him in local or whatever else you wanna do. I hope Tyrrax will rather put the 500m as bounty on your head, now that I am in close proximity to Axiom Empire. This..... _____________________________ I farm isk.
Nymysys GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.10.28 19:22:00 - [380] Originally by: Empyre wow.. an iac leader not honoring a deal?! never saw this coming.. i thought they were an honorable sort you know, with all the macro harboring and such. Don't you have some packing to do, pet?

Groox Cult of War	Posted - 2007.10.28 19:35:00 - [381] I wonder how TT is going to post on CAOD from now on without every possible forum troll picking on him about 500m bet. It would be part of his personality like 6b and BoB. For the sake of future of CAOD please pay TT...
WowZilla The Leeroy Jenkins Project	Posted - 2007.10.28 19:35:00 - [382] Drama! Thats why TT aint paying. Simple drama. and this Pilk guy, lollerz!!! Seriously, stop whilst your behind.
Nez Perces Amarr Metatron Inc.	Posted - 2007.10.28 20:51:00 - [383] Edited by: Nez Perces on 28/10/2007 20:52:09 Originally by: Havras So let's see here... There was a right way to handle it and it was as follows: Eve mail TT and work out the payment. Get the payment from TT. Make a thread declaring the bet won. There was a wrong way to handle this and it is as follows: Do it just the way you did using said bet for failed propaganda purposes. Result of the right way: You get your isk and the war goes on. Result of the wrong way: You get told to toss off, and rightly so, for being a first class prat. Your entire post wasn't about winning the bet. Your entire post was about rubbing his face in it to embarass him. I'd say all you did was embarass yourself. All this is irrelevant... the issue here is the bet. A bet was made, both parties seem to have agreed to it. Both parties acknowledge the existance of said bet here on these threads. The bet has been won by Pilk, albeit with the help of some timely downtime. TT can refuse to pay if he comes up with a reason why the terms of the bet were not fulfilled. However, thats not what he is doing, he is actually registering displeasure over Pilk's decision to exercise bragging rights. Bragging rights are inherent to the winning of a bet, thats half the fun, the other half of the fun is to get your money. TT ought to pay.. or he ought to give a good account of why he won't pay. "I've been butt-hurt and my feelings are sore" .... IS NOT A GOOD REASON. Like I said earlier, TT is losing e-honour points right left and centre by not facing the music in regards to this bet. *signature removed - please email us to find out why (include a link) - Jacques([email protected])
Havras The Syndicate Inc	Posted - 2007.10.28 21:02:00 - [384] Originally by: Nez Perces Edited by: Nez Perces on 28/10/2007 20:52:09 Originally by: Havras So let's see here... There was a right way to handle it and it was as follows: Eve mail TT and work out the payment. Get the payment from TT. Make a thread declaring the bet won. All this is irrelevant... the issue here is the bet. A bet was made, both parties seem to have agreed to it. Both parties acknowledge the existance of said bet here on these threads. The bet has been won by Pilk, albeit with the help of some timely downtime. TT can refuse to pay if he comes up with a reason why the terms of the bet were not fulfilled. However, thats not what he is doing, he is actually registering displeasure over Pilk's decision to exercise bragging rights. Bragging rights are inherent to the winning of a bet, thats half the fun, the other half of the fun is to get your money. TT ought to pay.. or he ought to give a good account of why he won't pay. "I've been butt-hurt and my feelings are sore" .... IS NOT A GOOD REASON. Like I said earlier, TT is losing e-honour points right left and centre by not facing the music in regards to this bet. See the steps under the right way to handle it? It still gives Pilk the ability to brag about winning the bet but it prevents him from looking like an idiot that is whining. See the step under the wrong way? It makes him look like a whining idiot that is trying to score a propaganda point. It is very relevent. It invokes the "heel digging in" reaction that is making TT not want to pay. I wouldn't particularly like to pay up after someone took my face and publicly smashed it into the fact that a bet was lost, before the bet was actually lost I might add, due to something out of the control of either party. Quote: If an advisor says to me "My liege, he is but one man. What can one man possibly do?", I will reply "This." and kill the advisor.
Nez Perces Amarr Metatron Inc.	Posted - 2007.10.28 21:16:00 - [385] Edited by: Nez Perces on 28/10/2007 21:18:53 Originally by: Havras It is very relevent. It invokes the "heel digging in" reaction that is making TT not want to pay. I wouldn't particularly like to pay up after someone took my face and publicly smashed it into the fact that a bet was lost, before the bet was actually lost I might add, due to something out of the control of either party. And here is the crux of the issue.... "heel digging in". TT has been played. Pilk may have had a suspicion that TT would not pay this bet anyhow. The best way to maximise gain from a bet that you are not sure will be honoured is by making that bet public in the most visible way possible. The fact of the manner is that both parties are fairly well known public figures. Pilk posts a lot and TT is an alliance leader. Nobody in this thread is disputing the terms of the bet or the fact that on the face of it TT lost the bet. This is no longer about the isk... whats at stake is more valuable than any isk. This is now about e-honour. And I'm sorry but whichever way you spin it, right now TT is losing that race. Dishonouring a gentleman's agreement is probably the fastest way to flush your e-honour down the toilet. Now imagine TT pays up. Secretly Pilk is probably hoping TT doesn't, because the minute he does, the e-honour scale will tip in TT's favour. And Pilk can then be chastised for rubbing the bet in TT's face. See how it works? I do realise that it takes a rudimentary understanding of e-honour and how it flows from one situation into another. But you seem like an honourable sort of chap Havras, I'm sure you will get it. [edit: typo] *signature removed - please email us to find out why (include a link) - Jacques([email protected])
Buyerr	Posted - 2007.10.28 21:39:00 - [386] Originally by: Pilk Originally by: Gabriel Roberts or the 1337 *** I hired to cause today's DT are immaterial to the bet. if you admittedly kicks the ball into the judge in a succor game you will not only NOT get the goal but you will get DISQUALIFIED as well. using the judge as a banding optical is not allowed and would surely not go unpunished. although if it is NOT on purpose (which this clearly is) it would be considered a goal. so he shouldn't owe you anything by your agreement (since you used illegal tactics, yer it is actually NOT allowed to crash the node on purpose (i suppose this is what your saying by hired some one etc) and actually i would love to see you banned for that offense ^^ ... sadly ccp is a bounch of puss* that will not ban any one for breaking their rules as long as they do it to misuse the mechanic boundaries of their game and have some lame excuse in the backhand :P )
Maenoise	Posted - 2007.10.28 22:12:00 - [387] Edited by: Maenoise on 28/10/2007 22:13:00 Bloody forum settings!!!!!
Havras The Syndicate Inc	Posted - 2007.10.28 22:13:00 - [388] Originally by: Nez Perces Edited by: Nez Perces on 28/10/2007 21:18:53 See how it works? I do realise that it takes a rudimentary understanding of e-honour and how it flows from one situation into another. But you seem like an honourable sort of chap Havras, I'm sure you will get it. [edit: typo] Gee... thanks Nez. That means ever so much coming from you. I understand the concept your talking about full well. My point was that by posting this way, instead of the right way to handle it, Pilk took any and all incentive to TT to want to honor the bet. I would very well imagine, and imagine is all it is as I don't know TT's mind, that TT saw this and thought "Oh, he can just f* right off for pulling this crap". I understand that mentality just as well. Has to do with pride. Paying up now would be a bit like just walking up and handing your lunch money over to the school bully after said bully shouts in the playground "You better give me your lunch money or I'll stomp you!". TT might gain some e-honor back from paying but he might lose a lot of respect out there by doing so as well. Quote:** If an advisor says to me "My liege, he is but one man. What can one man possibly do?", I will reply "This." and kill the advisor.
Orangir GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.10.28 22:19:00 - [389] Originally by: Nez Perces Like I said earlier, TT is losing e-honour points right left and centre by not facing the music in regards to this bet. Actually I respect Tyrrax more than I ever have for refusing to pay up, so there you go.
Nez Perces Amarr Metatron Inc.	Posted - 2007.10.28 22:21:00 - [390] Originally by: Havras Paying up now would be a bit like just walking up and handing your lunch money over to the school bully after said bully shouts in the playground "You better give me your lunch money or I'll stomp you!". TT might gain some e-honor back from paying but he might lose a lot of respect out there by doing so as well. This is where your argument falls down though. This thread is essentially about two personalities. Tyrrax one side and Pilk on the other. Now... I'm sorry but Tyrrax is by far the bigger personality. Everybody knows TT. Charismatic IAC leader, purveyor of staggeringly expensive equipment and by equal measure destroyer of staggeringly expensive equipment (most of it his own stuff). He is larger than life (in-game). Pilk is really just some guy from AXE who posts a lot, some of it good stuff some of it not so good stuff. At the very least he is eloquent. How in CAOD's name can Tyrrax be bullied publicly by Pilk? Its not even possible. Any e-honour loss Tyrrax incurrs here will be of his own making. At least thats the way I see it, but I have been wrong before... (not often mind you). *signature removed - please email us to find out why (include a link) - Jacques([email protected])



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