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Mumemafu Praetoriam
Minmatar Imperium .H.E.M.P. SYSTEM SHOCK INITIATIVE
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Posted - 2007.10.21 19:44:00 -
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One time I expend more the 4 mouhnts to get a larg 1400t2 and 1 week before a got it, CCP nerf it, now after 1 y 9 mounths in game, I got the skills ( so **** bored time and expenssive isk) after more time I got the danm Nidhoggur ( one off worst carrier, who told Minmatar are damage dealers???) and now after all bored time , CCP will put da ship easy to killed by 5 BS, Hey CCP, PLZ gimme back my $$ and my SP PLus my losed time to wait for this nerf. Dispite my bad english, I agrre w all guys, CCP wanna kick all old players, 1 time I was a noob w 20k up to 100k SP when start the game, today 2 yers later CCP will put me again like the 800K sp, may be eve is comming to be self-obliterade by some DEvs-carebears.
yeah, next nerf by CCP - turn all 0.0 to 1.0 and realse all carebears to fly free w no risk.
I ll quit it :P
Oh God, I forgot tell about the 2 account to move the danm cursed nerf ship... *snip* - signature removed. Please email us at [email protected] with a link to the signature in question if you want to know why. -Ivan K |
judes23
The Silent Rage M. PIRE
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Posted - 2007.10.21 19:46:00 -
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yea man, if they nerf the carrier, it will be the 5th ship the nerf RIGHT before i get into it
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meef
Demonic Retribution Pure.
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Posted - 2007.10.21 19:49:00 -
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Originally by: Icome4u Edited by: Icome4u on 21/10/2007 15:44:23 F*CK YOU CCP! F*CK YOU! You f*cking do this and i'm out. F*CKING B*LLSH*T. Got that?
STOP NERFING SHIPS LIKE THIS! Do you even realize you are RUINING the game? What the heck is next? Cut all high damage slots by half to make fights last longer? Hey how about freaking cutting all dps in half and making all shield boosters and armor reppers have a 200% bonus! Yay longer fights!!!
You guys are ruining this game, it sucks! You CAN'T nerf ships like this, we pay for something and you CHANGE it? That's bad unethical business. If Ford ever came knocking at my door to tell me they are nerfing my car and changing the engine to some **** 4cylinder id tell them to f*ck off and introduce them to my lawyer.
Get real CCP, stop ruining the game for vets/old players just to show noobs you 'care' about them. F*CK YOU!
What he said ^
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HottieWitAbody
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Posted - 2007.10.21 19:51:00 -
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The QQs of 10s of GTC funded mom owners makes me happy in the pants.
Seriously though, dumbest change ever (right behind wtz).
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Benn Helmsman
Caldari Dark Prophecy Inc.
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Posted - 2007.10.21 19:59:00 -
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Originally by: judes23 yea man, if they nerf the carrier, it will be the 5th ship the nerf RIGHT before i get into it
Stop training for FOTM
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Xilimyth Derlin
OldBastardsPub SMASH Alliance
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Posted - 2007.10.21 20:00:00 -
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Edited by: Xilimyth Derlin on 21/10/2007 20:02:10 Wow... I feel like the only one on the planet whom this doesn't bother. Least I'll actually get to fly a fleet support ship as MOST carriers are (IRL or OL). ^_^
Edit: Oh, and Adapt or Die. (Sorry, it's a good quote that everyone's always said.... still holds true here)
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Kronn Blackthorne
0utbreak
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Posted - 2007.10.21 20:02:00 -
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Edited by: Kronn Blackthorne on 21/10/2007 20:05:55 yey , let fly a 80 bil ship to deploy 5 fighters like a 1 bil ship ...oh well that s stupid .... let just stop to play , RL is less nerfed ....
seriously , with recent dictor bubble change , we saw titans / mom are not so safe anymore . Can t even imagine with the dictor cruiser incoming .
so now u wanna nerf the only thing they are good for : dmg deal ? in this case no point flying a mothership over a carrier , u can get bout 60 carriers fitted for a mom well fitted .....
hey mister i-just-got-promoted-to-a-high-place , keep ur head on ur shoulders , and play the game before proposing some changes
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Senator Martin'Lefouret
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Posted - 2007.10.21 20:28:00 -
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Originally by: gordon cain
Oh well, I can always go play "pirates" when that is out and come back when they fixed it again.
Gordon Cain
I got in on the beta testing, you actualy have to do a lot of effort to loose anything in that game
Btw ccp are you gonna keep nerfing everything till i finaly decide to press the cancel subscription button?
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Greggor
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Posted - 2007.10.21 20:37:00 -
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Great idea as long as you increase the total number of fighters a carier can deploy to say 25 minimum just to balance it out a bit your taking a lot away from us carier pilots so how about giving a bit back
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DTee
0utbreak
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Posted - 2007.10.21 20:42:00 -
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Since this is the worst idea ever. Please refrain from presenting anymore ideas.
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Daroek Ko'thon
The Aforementioned
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Posted - 2007.10.21 20:53:00 -
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Everyone hating on the carrier / mothership idea is a ******. You can't possibly know how the final idea will come out, and how it'll work out in the game, so why don't you stop whining and go have your mom change your diaper?
Sheez, you're all a bunch of crybabies.
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DarkFollower
Amarr Wreckless Abandon Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2007.10.21 20:58:00 -
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Ok, first off i don't fly a carrier / mom , but even i can see this just out of the blue and completly ilogical
It's not even inline with what the other dev blogs before stated , i mean start with using them just to assign fighters , then nerf the fighter dmg when assigned to get them more out of the open just to get them back to pos huggin alt ships?
and lol around the solo pwnmobiles comment, to who said that can u tell me where can i find you solo ? i wont come with to many guys , just 1 or 2 lachesis and some hacs , and well see how good u're carrier is to solo stuff
And what about the mothership then , what would that multi bilion ship do? immune to ew and that's about it, and not even that , if it's cought by a dictor bubble and dosen't have support bye bye mothership So in the end both the carrier and the mothership require support to not get killed, if they don't have support they die simple as that ....so their not solo pwnmobiles can we agree on that?
Carriers / moms are "uber deathbringer" , and how are they uber deathbringer? sure they do great dmg if theyr targets stay where they are . but i for one when i see some fighters after me i don't tend to stay to much there to see the dmg unless i'm lagged out Maybe that's what is this all about fighters are not affected by lag ,if this is it , then the problem is not with the fighters but with the lag Do i make sense ?
Maybe the next phase will be that each fighter to be a actual player and the more veteran player(carrier pilot) launch the more inexperienced drone like players to attack his targets right ? that would make more sense no? by u're logic
Cap recharges on PvP ships Suxxor monkey ballzorz!!
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Orb Lati
Minmatar Cold-Fury Southern Cross Alliance
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Posted - 2007.10.21 21:01:00 -
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You wish to stop carriers and moms being solopwn mobiles in low sec.
simple. Make gate and station turrets assign fighters and drones as higher priority targets.
Lets see how many Caps gate camp for easy ganks when every salvo from a gate turret kills 40M in fighters every few seconds.
"We worship Strength because it is through strength that all other values are made possible" |
Juggernaut Kell
Caldari 0utbreak
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Posted - 2007.10.21 21:03:00 -
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Wow way to make a debut introducing one of the stupidest ideas ever!!! Hell while your at it, why dont we just convert eve to an undersea adventure and make all the ships submarines and put fish and crabs where the belts used to be?
Please go back and play pong or better yet D & D on a cardbaord box. Your ideas are horrible and you must have done ALOT more then just show your resume to get into the position you are in.
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Corrosus
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Posted - 2007.10.21 21:06:00 -
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And Eve continues on it's path to middle of the road mediocrity. Stop bringing out new "features" in every new patch and deciding we need to see our chars walking around stations or that structures need to be shinier and brighter with more lights on them.......fix the god-damned lag instead. Bloody nerf-bats
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killerco
Gallente The Flying Dutchmen Antesignani Alliance
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Posted - 2007.10.21 21:10:00 -
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Stop with the nerf bats ccp work on the lag not nerfing carriers/MO's . Go do something usefull instead off making this game crappyer!!!
Bloody Noobs
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Norjia Blacksteel
Gallente Blacksteel Mining and Manufacturing Apoapsis Multiversal Consortium
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Posted - 2007.10.21 21:11:00 -
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Originally by: Juggernaut Kell Hell while your at it, why dont we just convert eve to an undersea adventure and make all the ships submarines and put fish and crabs where the belts used to be?
You know... if that were only a few day's coding and art, that would be really funny for April Fool's day.
---- Norjia Blacksteel CEO Blacksteel Mining and Manufacturing |
judes23
The Silent Rage M. PIRE
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Posted - 2007.10.21 21:12:00 -
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corr, i so agree with that
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Jai Cee
Quam Singulari
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Posted - 2007.10.21 21:14:00 -
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I have to ask whether whoever came up with this "idea" has ever actually used capital ships or fought against them? These ships are entirely dependant on their support fleets, I've been in small gangs (less than 20 mostly not in BS) that have quite easily killed motherships that have been stupid enough to solo and have been in a smallish gang without cap support that killed a Mom that thought it would be fun to go ratting in both cases without any losses. Capital ships are totally vulnerable to small ship gangs as it is, if these changes go through then a carrier would be good for nothing but sitting at a POS repping its shields.
The big problem with carriers is the lag that drones generate and this nerf only helps that because no-one will want to fly a carrier anymore when they can fly a dominix instead.
Can I have my ISK and SP back because this change makes nearly 6 months of dedicated training useless!
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Icome4u
Caldari Dark and Light inc. D-L
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Posted - 2007.10.21 21:18:00 -
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CCP you now have lost rights to keep working on this game. Sell the game rights to people who know how to please their customers.
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the killer3
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Posted - 2007.10.21 21:20:00 -
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my opignon is that carrier with only 5 drone is a wrong idea.
carrier are powerfull ship, with only 5 drone, they are weak... and useless.
so, i accept compromise... i propose :
okay, 5 drone or fighter for carrier... but i want a +20% damage bonus per level... so the carrier have less drone/fighter but have the same firepower.
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Brka
Vendetta Underground Rule of Three
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Posted - 2007.10.21 21:35:00 -
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Edited by: Brka on 21/10/2007 21:35:41 This has got to be one of the worst ideas CCP Quality Assurance ever came up with.
Months ago you wanted them on the front lines. Soon they will be basically wrecks without support fleet. Given I like the idea to ruin carrier pilots days but seriously CCP Devs... if it isn't broke don't fix it. Just because its something tough, you shouldn't take away a carrier's main defensive/offensive platform. Basically it ruins them. Cheers.
This is a truly bad BAD idea. Like car wreck bad. Try again.
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judes23
The Silent Rage M. PIRE
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Posted - 2007.10.21 21:43:00 -
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Originally by: Icome4u CCP you now have lost rights to keep working on this game. Sell the game rights to people who know how to please their customers.
lol i was talking to my corp mates about that, and i said, "HEY! CCP should sell their rights to Bungi, they know how to make good games that they cant nerf when made =D"
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Aaron Mirrorsaver
R.E.C.O.N.
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Posted - 2007.10.21 21:44:00 -
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dude it wasn't QA that came up with this, its a guy who has been in QA for two years and just got a promotion to the design team.
he will wtf pwn bbq eve with this promotion.
Let's not let carriers be able to kill battleships. I mean WW2 saw the replacement of the BS by carriers as the most important ships in the fleet.
Rename the class of ship, cause it aint a carrier no more.
R.E.C.O.N. is recruiting
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BOldMan
Reikoku Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.10.21 21:45:00 -
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5 are too much. Carrier dont need drones or fighter. They should only smartbomb. Please adjust the nerf is not finished.
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Angor
The JORG Corporation Methods of Mayhem Alliance
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Posted - 2007.10.21 21:47:00 -
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Originally by: judes23
Originally by: Icome4u CCP you now have lost rights to keep working on this game. Sell the game rights to people who know how to please their customers.
lol i was talking to my corp mates about that, and i said, "HEY! CCP should sell their rights to Bungi, they know how to make good games that they cant nerf when made =D"
lol selling the game to Bungie would be funny but then Microsoft would own it. We'd see halo style fighting in stations :P _______________________________ [ 2007.06.07 21:07:22 ] FrankyWave > ransom me guys I am joining XElas !!!
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badbull
Quam Singulari
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Posted - 2007.10.21 21:49:00 -
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carrier = transport ship now
tbh i blame the goons and ccp,goons moaning about the lagg with drones and fighters and ccp giving into them again
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Jack Jombardo
Amarr
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Posted - 2007.10.21 21:55:00 -
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Originally by: Aaron Mirrorsaver dude it wasn't QA that came up with this, its a guy who has been in QA for two years and just got a promotion to the design team.
he will wtf pwn bbq eve with this promotion.
Let's not let carriers be able to kill battleships. I mean WW2 saw the replacement of the BS by carriers as the most important ships in the fleet.
Rename the class of ship, cause it aint a carrier no more.
the captain of a carrier NEVER flys a single airplain his ship carries. He in person is just a HAULER!
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Aaron Mirrorsaver
R.E.C.O.N.
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Posted - 2007.10.21 21:57:00 -
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you comparing the ability of a 20+ billion ship ability to defend it self with the ability of a tech 2 logistic ship? and saying that is ok if they are the same?
o m g
R.E.C.O.N. is recruiting
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Kazamidori
Division 9 Golden Leaves Izanagi Alliance
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Posted - 2007.10.21 22:01:00 -
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I don't think limiting the carrier's fighter control to 5 at a time is such a bad step in balancing. Carriers are meant to be used with supports, and they should be balanced as such.
The problem is, is that fighter drone's AI is so bad and so buggy, that fighter attachment doesn't offer the same level of fluidity they are meant to offer. Drones get lost, they warp off and never come back, etc. etc. Carrier balance must come with drone AI upgrades.
As for regular drones, I don't understand why there is a need to nerf this. Carriers are meant to be support ships, yes, but a one-trick pony will deteriorate the carrier's role in EVE to one that is seriously boring. Sit back, attach fighters on frigs and fighter bomb. The reason being that without the regular drones, carriers have no reasonable method to defend itself or provide extra firepower for the gang. Repair is nice, but for a one-trick pony, logistics are equally as effective.
Lastly, after the POS system have been changed, it now costs dreads(and BS) more isk to destroy auxiliary modules on a POS than those modules cost themselves. I haven't done an exact calculation, but taking down small guns cost atleast 10x in ammo than its market price. Carriers with sentry drones are perfect for mopping up, and reducing the number of drones available also increase the severe annoyance which is the POS mop-up.
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