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Nush	Posted - 2007.11.01 20:41:00 - [1] This has just shown up on SiSi, with the new mass you cant fit enough ozone into jump briges to use them and it looks like the warp range has been nerfed down aswell, double warps past 40ly. WHY CCP? WHY!
Dangerously Cheesey GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.11.01 20:43:00 - [2] Freighters != Haulers, duh
HydroSan GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.11.01 20:52:00 - [3] This is effectively a coup de grace on 0.0 logistics. Thanks a bunch CCP.
pi squad	Posted - 2007.11.01 20:53:00 - [4] hahahahhaha this better be a joke
Havoc GunStar GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.11.01 20:56:00 - [5] Edited by: Havoc GunStar on 01/11/2007 20:57:53 So glad I waited a bit to buy that freighter. So this means a Fenrir would take pretty much the max, and the others are useless at jump bridges. Will this impact bridging freighters with Titans? Edit: Looks like his picture host broke, for those listening at home, CCP has applied 10x to the mass of each Freighter.
Elohe GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.11.01 20:57:00 - [6] Edited by: Elohe on 01/11/2007 20:57:21 you guys are insane; you like your t2 freighters so much, you will force eveyone to train for them just to have the pleasure of living in 0.0 space?
Maxim Powers GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.11.01 20:58:00 - [7] Personally, I find the ~5 minute wait trying to align a freighter off a station* to be far too short, what it really needs is an agility mod reduced by a factor of ten, and the mass increased by a factor of ten. Undocking a freighter should be an alliance wide task that cannot be accomplished in less than an hour. *In space it's fine, from a standing start you can just use webs. You're flung out of a station faster than a freighter can go
Sophie Daigneau	Posted - 2007.11.01 20:59:00 - [8] At least I'll be able to use my existing freighter to build a jump freighter so its not a total loss.
pi squad	Posted - 2007.11.01 20:59:00 - [9] Originally by: Havoc GunStar Edited by: Havoc GunStar on 01/11/2007 20:57:53 So glad I waited a bit to buy that freighter. So this means a Fenrir would take pretty much the max, and the others are useless at jump bridges. Will this impact bridging freighters with Titans? Edit: Looks like his picture host broke, for those listening at home, CCP has applied 10x to the mass of each Freighter. and reduced the agility mod by a factor of 10
Maxim Powers GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.11.01 21:04:00 - [10] Originally by: pi squad and reduced the agility mod by a factor of 10 Nah, lower is better
Swamp Ziro GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.11.01 21:05:00 - [11] Edited by: Swamp Ziro on 01/11/2007 21:06:14 Edited by: Swamp Ziro on 01/11/2007 21:05:54 Edited by: Swamp Ziro on 01/11/2007 21:05:45 Originally by: Maxim Powers Originally by: pi squad and reduced the agility mod by a factor of 10 Nah, lower is better this. inertia mod X mass = agility. BSes have low inertias to compensate for their big mass. EDIT: This mass is still stupid tho
Arcord	Posted - 2007.11.01 21:07:00 - [12] CCP went seriously crazy...they really want to kill the game
Maxim Powers GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.11.01 21:09:00 - [13] Originally by: Arcord CCP went seriously crazy...they really want to kill the game Apparantly nerfing the money-making capacity of 0.0 to a fairly pathetic amount more than empire wasn't enough to make 0.0 unliveable, good thing that us poor plebs have professionals on the case to make sure the risk:reward is tip top
Stevobob Battlestars GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.11.01 21:12:00 - [14] This is unbelievable. CCP is like a car company phasing out the old model and forcing us to buy the new one...except they gain absolutely nothing but angered customers by doing it
Krontos Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.11.01 21:13:00 - [15] Wow. Just wow. You may as well just remove 0.0 space from the game at this point. Just give us a few months notice so we can take our stuff, then you can just shut down that part of the game. It's obvious you don't want people living there, so why not just go the extra yard and get rid of it?
Martin VanBuren GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.11.01 21:13:00 - [16] Seriously though, it's one thing to make combat ships incapable of logistics work, but to make logistics ships incapable of logistics work???
Maxim Powers GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.11.01 21:14:00 - [17] Originally by: Martin VanBuren Seriously though, it's one thing to make combat ships incapable of logistics work, but to make logistics ships incapable of logistics work??? Carriers aren't supposed to be combat ships, CCP told us
Martin VanBuren GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.11.01 21:15:00 - [18] Originally by: Maxim Powers Originally by: Martin VanBuren Seriously though, it's one thing to make combat ships incapable of logistics work, but to make logistics ships incapable of logistics work??? Carriers aren't supposed to be combat ships, CCP told us But if they're not supposed to be combat ships and they're not supposed to be logistics ships then :psyduck:
Gorfob	Posted - 2007.11.01 21:18:00 - [19] Why do you hate 0.0 alliances so much? Seriously what sort of drugs are you smoking? Seriously. Jump bridges where made to make life easier for logistics by allowing freighters to mvoe around. Now its destroyed. At least take the ability for titans to jump bridge them then. Fairs fair. Logistics ships != Logistics ships. -dbp
Elmicker Black Sea Industries Cult of War	Posted - 2007.11.01 21:18:00 - [20] This... is a joke, right? So now the only viable logistics tools are a pos-basher and a mining ship?
Naja Bo Merch Industrial GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.11.01 21:19:00 - [21] Reposting image with non-waffleimages host.
Xequecal	Posted - 2007.11.01 21:21:00 - [22] Originally by: Gorfob Why do you hate 0.0 alliances so much? Seriously what sort of drugs are you smoking? Seriously. Jump bridges where made to make life easier for logistics by allowing freighters to mvoe around. Now its destroyed. At least take the ability for titans to jump bridge them then. Fairs fair. Logistics ships != Logistics ships. They did. Titans can't jump bridge them anymore. I suspect this was done to prevent people from using freighters to make billions of ISK by manipulating NPC buy/sell orders, risk free.
Maxim Powers GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.11.01 21:26:00 - [23] Originally by: Xequecal They did. Titans can't jump bridge them anymore. I suspect this was done to prevent people from using freighters to make billions of ISK by manipulating NPC buy/sell orders, risk free. I could not sleep at nights because I thought this might be being done.
Darpz Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2007.11.01 21:28:00 - [24] Originally by: Xequecal Originally by: Gorfob Why do you hate 0.0 alliances so much? Seriously what sort of drugs are you smoking? Seriously. Jump bridges where made to make life easier for logistics by allowing freighters to mvoe around. Now its destroyed. At least take the ability for titans to jump bridge them then. Fairs fair. Logistics ships != Logistics ships. They did. Titans can't jump bridge them anymore. I suspect this was done to prevent people from using freighters to make billions of ISK by manipulating NPC buy/sell orders, risk free. it was done because otherwise no one would use the obscenly overprised jump frieghters..... ccp your really mess with a bit to much here. small changes over time would be a better aproach if this is the direction you want to go.
Naja Bo Merch Industrial GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.11.01 21:31:00 - [25] Originally by: Darpz it was done because otherwise no one would use the obscenly overprised jump frieghters..... seriously. if this goes through jump freighters need to be tier 2, not tech 2.
Fenderson Finite Horizon Synchr0nicity	Posted - 2007.11.01 21:33:00 - [26] gee, i wonder if a certain alliance is staging another mass-posting? stfu goons
Dangerously Cheesey GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.11.01 21:36:00 - [27] Originally by: Fenderson gee, i wonder if a certain alliance is staging another mass-posting? stfu goons Ya because its Goons who use their multiple titans to jump bridge freighters all the time. Oh wait.
DeadProphet Black Eclipse Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.11.01 21:37:00 - [28] Nerfalations III Shaping up to be the worst patch ever?
Maxim Powers GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.11.01 21:39:00 - [29] Edited by: Maxim Powers on 01/11/2007 21:40:11 Originally by: Fenderson gee, i wonder if a certain alliance is staging another mass-posting? stfu goons 16 post in an hour, this forum can't take the load! Originally by: Nicocat What do goons care about this? Shoo, kiddos. Jump Portal Arrays? The fact that they're killing carriers/motherships for logistics?
Dangerously Cheesey GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.11.01 21:41:00 - [30] Originally by: DeadProphet Nerfalations III Shaping up to be the worst patch ever? Someone called the whole tech 2 freighter/logistics thing a "Monet of Failure" - I like it. Oh and I'm sure the easiest way to fix an arguably broken NPC buy/sell order combination was to....nerf jump bridging freighters?

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