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Graalum
Foundation R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2007.11.10 21:37:00 -
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Originally by: Farham "What pet admits it's a pet? not you ofcourse.
However, Goons seem to think otherwise - If they didn't, you wouldnt holding space. The fact that Goons use diplo-levrage to defend you proves that you are a pet.
congrats."
You mean like when XXDeath, IRC and FREGE came back for Round 2 in MJ- a week after it fell? We brought caps in and about 150 support for a lazy attempt at retaking it and were immediately contacted by a few RK/Smash friendly alliances(blues to us or FREGE that is) stating that if we continued "Home Defense Pacts" were going to be executed by your leadership and they would be setting us Red and coming to help. Surely that diplo-leverage was ok but our having diplo-leverage is not. Gotcha.
The only difference is that, say, pure, didn't convo you to get out of *their* space. Thats the difference between us and you.
I was very disappointed when you scurried off with your tails between your legs after shooting half the shields off a tower.
Quote: "Now that your coalition you were a part of liberated your old systems, who has sov? surely not you"
We made the choice when we decided to drop stations in 7-K back in June that there was no going back, that chapter is closed. Though I must admit having access to Billions in former assets has been cool as hell. RK has some former ASCN corps (my former alliance mates), why don't you ask them who has SOV of their old systems?
First, you do have a new station in exbob space, but, certainly if you would get any of them, if would be your own stations. As for our ex-ascn corps, they haven't been part of any grand crusade to retake a couple regions from bob, but nice strawman anyways. Oh and here is your obligatory 'we didn't want those stations anyways.'
Quote: Want to continue down the path on things you don't know all the facts about?
keep thinking that dude. 
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Farham
AWE Corporation Intrepid Crossing
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Posted - 2007.11.10 23:03:00 -
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"First, you do have a new station in exbob space, but, certainly if you would get any of them, if would be your own stations. As for our ex-ascn corps, they haven't been part of any grand crusade to retake a couple regions from bob, but nice strawman anyways. Oh and here is your obligatory 'we didn't want those stations anyways."
Any efforts from us against BOB have nothing to do with the retaking of territory and have everything to with hopefully their total defeat. The station we have SOV over in Esoteria is more a matter convenience to assist our efforts to that end. Long term I couldn't begin to tell you what will be done with it.
"Oh and here is your obligatory 'we didn't want those stations anyways."
We did want those stations. We fought for them for months and ultimately were defeated fair and square. To the victor go the spoils. We moved on, kind of like those very same ex-ASCN corps now in your alliance.
"The only difference is that, say, pure, didn't convo you to get out of *their* space."
The point was the term "diplo-leverage" which was mentioned in terms of our alliance with the GOONS. You exercise your "diplo-leverage" when you feel the need, we do the same. The semantics of how the GOONs refer to the 7-K region, which is almost entirely theirs, is of no consequence to us. I will however say that the obsession some of your crew exhibit towards us is entirely flattering if not a bit creepy.
Talk about taking a thread off course.
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Tomeus
Bears Inc
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Posted - 2007.11.10 23:41:00 -
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Edited by: Tomeus on 10/11/2007 23:41:20 Heh, this has derailed a little.
First, I wanted to back Farham up, I was the FREGE rep for most of the MJ talks and I can say that IRC are a quality outfit. Of all the drone alliances, many of whom we'd been working withy ever since Kali, it was IRC that I had the most respect for. When the rest of our MAD allies decided not to honour their obligations, IRC were the only drone alliance (despite not actually having been fully inducted into MAD) who were prepared to stand with FREGE and fight (and xx, props to you guys). I have nothing but respect for IRC.
Getting back on topic, it sucks like hell. I have a lot of respect for OXIDE, they're a great bunch. I thought I respected IVC and IRON, but I was wrong. Dropping out of the MJ conflict and agreeing with SMASHKILL to give up FREGE space was bad, but screwing over your former allies like this is just plain crap.
I have full respect for smashkill and their friends who kicked FREGE out of the drone regions; with the exception of ka-tet they were alliances we'd always been fighting, and I can only say gg, you won. I'm left with far more respect for those guys than any of the drone alliances who turned on OXIDE.
Good luck to OXIDE, I know you guys are a quality outfit, and I know you'll survive this. You can be proud that you went out with your integrity intact.
P.S. These are my own opinions and don't represent FREGE, especially as my corp is not currently in an alliance 
P.P.S. o/ to all the names I recognise
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Oofig VanDoogan
The Knighthawks FREGE Alliance
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Posted - 2007.11.11 01:49:00 -
[394]
Miss you Tome, hope uni is going well for you or whatever mystical journey youre on. Your signature graphic must reflect your ingame persona as per The Forum rules - Kreul Intentions ([email protected]) |

Red Dawn
Interstellar eXodus R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2007.11.11 02:09:00 -
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Simple facts show IC/ED = RA/goon pets:
1.Did you fight for yur current home? I think not. You recieved it in exchange for services you provide (supercapital contruction anyone?).
2.Are you required to defend "your" space on your own against invading forces? No. Because there ARE no invading forces, because Your masters KNOW you cant withstand a full-scale frontal assualt and they ahve not the resources to come to your aid without reducing their presence at other locations where it is needed.
3.You are a pet. You have a Master. The diffrence between the RA/goon block and the Smashkillb lock is simple - our guys chose to goa lnog with us because we give them fun. You go along with your block because it is financially/security-wise beneficial for you.
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Nhoj Sllew
Amarr Interstellar eXodus R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2007.11.11 05:27:00 -
[396]
this thread should die
don't make me summon more ewoks -- Peanut Swsh > is peoke really a small african child with an extremely poor grasp on the english language?
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dastommy79
Di-Tron Heavy Industries Atlas Alliance
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Posted - 2007.11.11 05:51:00 -
[397]
hey whats going on in this thread.
I driks lot
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Internet Knight
The Knighthawks FREGE Alliance
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Posted - 2007.11.11 07:40:00 -
[398]
Originally by: Graalum As for our ex-ascn corps, they haven't been part of any grand crusade to retake a couple regions from bob, but nice strawman anyways.
And the rest of your alliance has? hahahahahaha --- How to resolve Singularity character syncing
Originally by: EadTaes Frege is dead.
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Porgy
Foundation R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2007.11.11 08:09:00 -
[399]
Originally by: Internet Knight
Originally by: Graalum As for our ex-ascn corps, they haven't been part of any grand crusade to retake a couple regions from bob, but nice strawman anyways.
And the rest of your alliance has? hahahahahaha
congratulations on missing the point ----------------------------
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Seblis Hyperion
54th Knights Templar Dark Matter Coalition
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Posted - 2007.11.11 08:38:00 -
[400]
Seams our new neighbors (ATLAS) are not very honorable. Atlas new owners who were blue asked DMC to remove it's tower in b-7 and fletcher went there to remove it since it was their space. as it was just unachored fletcher was killed and podded and then told that DMC was being set red. this is the convo.
2007.11.11 03:47
Bobby Atlas | ATLAS Alliance 2nd in Command
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Channel ID: 2125379062 Channel Name: Private Chat (Bobby Atlas) Listener: Fletcher Vardy Session started: 2007.11.10 23:04:30 ---------------------------------------------------------------
[ 2007.11.10 23:04:46 ] Fletcher Vardy > hello [ 2007.11.10 23:04:46 ] Bobby Atlas > o/ [ 2007.11.10 23:05:07 ] Bobby Atlas > politics [ 2007.11.10 23:05:09 ] Bobby Atlas > they suck eh? [ 2007.11.10 23:05:13 ] Fletcher Vardy > hehe [ 2007.11.10 23:05:13 ] Bobby Atlas > how goes it? [ 2007.11.10 23:05:25 ] Fletcher Vardy > allright i quess been busy [ 2007.11.10 23:05:44 ] Fletcher Vardy > u? [ 2007.11.10 23:06:04 ] Bobby Atlas > pretty good [ 2007.11.10 23:06:09 ] Bobby Atlas > dmc has a large tower up in b-7L [ 2007.11.10 23:06:20 ] Bobby Atlas > we would like it removed today please if possible [ 2007.11.10 23:06:24 ] Fletcher Vardy > yes [ 2007.11.10 23:06:34 ] Bobby Atlas > alright just wanted to make sure [ 2007.11.10 23:06:35 ] Bobby Atlas > :) [ 2007.11.10 23:06:45 ] Fletcher Vardy > its almost out of fuel atm [ 2007.11.10 23:06:57 ] Fletcher Vardy > but now that all is clear in system [ 2007.11.10 23:07:04 ] Fletcher Vardy > i will come over and remove [ 2007.11.10 23:07:10 ] Bobby Atlas > thanks mate [ 2007.11.10 23:07:19 ] Fletcher Vardy > np m8 [ 2007.11.10 23:07:47 ] Fletcher Vardy > ok fly nasty 07 [ 2007.11.10 23:07:56 ] Bobby Atlas > o/ [ 2007.11.11 01:09:40 ] Fletcher Vardy > o/ [ 2007.11.11 01:10:06 ] Fletcher Vardy > u need me there now m8 [ 2007.11.11 01:10:08 ] Bobby Atlas > what type of tower is that again? [ 2007.11.11 01:10:13 ] Fletcher Vardy > amarr [ 2007.11.11 01:10:16 ] Fletcher Vardy > faction [ 2007.11.11 01:10:16 ] Bobby Atlas > ya we got someone waiting to anchor stuff [ 2007.11.11 01:10:28 ] Fletcher Vardy > ok rgr omw [ 2007.11.11 01:10:35 ] Bobby Atlas > ty mate appreciate it [ 2007.11.11 01:10:52 ] Fletcher Vardy > np i understand .11 03:30:33 ] Fletcher Vardy > that was a low blow [ 2007.11.11 03:30:47 ] Fletcher Vardy > attacking tower before it is unachored [ 2007.11.11 03:30:58 ] Bobby Atlas > we didnt attack it [ 2007.11.11 03:31:00 ] Bobby Atlas > we scooped it [ 2007.11.11 03:31:06 ] Fletcher Vardy > u are as we speak [ 2007.11.11 03:31:24 ] Fletcher Vardy > it has 7 min [ 2007.11.11 03:31:31 ] Bobby Atlas > your mistaken [ 2007.11.11 03:31:32 ] Fletcher Vardy > till its unachored [ 2007.11.11 03:31:34 ] Bobby Atlas > that a new tower anchoring [ 2007.11.11 03:31:42 ] Bobby Atlas > your tower is in my hangar [ 2007.11.11 03:31:42 ] Fletcher Vardy > so wheres our tower [ 2007.11.11 03:32:17 ] Fletcher Vardy > well i would expect that that tower should be returned [ 2007.11.11 03:32:32 ] Bobby Atlas > i would expect you to wash my ass
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Oofig VanDoogan
The Knighthawks FREGE Alliance
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Posted - 2007.11.11 08:50:00 -
[401]
lol doesnt bobby yell at dastommy for posting on the forums drunk?
Being a douche like that, I think thats the least of his worries. Your signature graphic must reflect your ingame persona as per The Forum rules - Kreul Intentions ([email protected]) |

Viro Melchior
Interstellar eXodus R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2007.11.11 09:05:00 -
[402]
Originally by: Seblis Hyperion Seams our new neighbors (ATLAS) are not very honorable. Atlas new owners who were blue asked DMC to remove it's tower in b-7 and fletcher went there to remove it since it was their space. as it was just unachored fletcher was killed and podded and then told that DMC was being set red. this is the convo.
>>>Bobby stabbing DMC in the face verbally<<<
Since this threat has *clearly* established that Atlas are just Smashkill pets, you should set Roadkill red and gank one of our shuttles + the pod.
One thing I don't think you'll see though are RK/SMASH pilots in your space playing scout for Atlas unless we end up resetting you. That's a lot more than can be said of DMC. Your pilots spied on RK + allies during NGM while remaning blue to both sides. Your pilots (few) spied on Smashkill and Atlas in B-7 while blue, and had to be threatened by SCOOTER1 or FCs both times with standing resets before they'd stop hanging around our fleets relaying intel.
So as much as I think Bobby's choices were rather low moral fiber, I can't say I fault him for making the choice to default against DMC. You all would be in a much better moral boat if you fought us in each case instead of pansying around and helping our enemies while pretending to still be blue.
The above rant is completely unofficial, and respects only my own views, not those of Roadkill, SMASH, our diplomats, or crazy crazy alliance leaders. Pew Pew.
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Bobby Atlas
Di-Tron Heavy Industries Atlas Alliance
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Posted - 2007.11.11 09:05:00 -
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Edited by: Bobby Atlas on 11/11/2007 09:09:17 tis tis, modifying logs and posting logs - naughty you - you were reset before tower finished unanchoring, fill in the context of the missing logs for everyone why don't you?
you were blown up while red, your tower was scooped while red, EOF.
nevertheless all issues that are out of context of this thread, thank you for the tower.
I hope to one day be hated as much as peoke.
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Seblis Hyperion
54th Knights Templar Dark Matter Coalition
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Posted - 2007.11.11 09:27:00 -
[404]
trying to save face? and the logs not edited according to fletcher.
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Oofig VanDoogan
The Knighthawks FREGE Alliance
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Posted - 2007.11.11 09:36:00 -
[405]
lol so you *****ed about them having a tower there, make them unachor it and set them red while its unanchoring?
Look at dat fukken douche Your signature graphic must reflect your ingame persona as per The Forum rules - Kreul Intentions ([email protected]) |

Seblis Hyperion
54th Knights Templar Dark Matter Coalition
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Posted - 2007.11.11 09:37:00 -
[406]
yup that's what happened
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Oofig VanDoogan
The Knighthawks FREGE Alliance
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Posted - 2007.11.11 09:38:00 -
[407]
look at dat fukken douche Your signature graphic must reflect your ingame persona as per The Forum rules - Kreul Intentions ([email protected]) |

Oofig VanDoogan
The Knighthawks FREGE Alliance
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Posted - 2007.11.11 09:42:00 -
[408]
But posting diplo logs on caod = not cool regardless Your signature graphic must reflect your ingame persona as per The Forum rules - Kreul Intentions ([email protected]) |

Porgy
Foundation R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2007.11.11 09:54:00 -
[409]
rofl at those logs. +10 points to bobby ----------------------------
Your d**k exceeds the maximum allowed dimensions of 400x120 pixels and filesize of 24000 bytes -Valorem ([email protected])
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Sabian Treehugger
Minmatar Omega Enterprises Mostly Harmless
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Posted - 2007.11.11 10:45:00 -
[410]
What a lame move from atlas,hopefully we won't be neighbours for too long.
o7 Seblis nice to see you on the forums 
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Peanut Swsh
Interstellar eXodus R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2007.11.11 11:32:00 -
[411]
dmc whining about a blue on blue. LMAO
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sniper luke
Di-Tron Heavy Industries Atlas Alliance
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Posted - 2007.11.11 11:33:00 -
[412]
pets or not pets, its just a word to provoke forum flaming, they have nothing better to do, anyone who know bobby Atlas, ban, and Atlas members, we do what we want, when we want and help people we like. Most of us are old peeps, mature and are a bit long in the tooth to be doing someone elses bidding, we go where we want to go, shoot who we want to shoot.
Its been a very long time since we have flown on a side with good numbers, like in previous posts, most of us are ex fla, fought mc in dek / 02 very out numbered, fought pure, very out numbered, we still threw everything we had at them, was expensive and fun most of the time.
Judging by all the crap flying around this forum Im glad I dont have a job as a diplomat, I just play eve, maybe im just getting old and dont need the crap these forum posts spew out, prob why I dont bother reading them much unless i need to search for a ship setup (anyone got a good cerberus setup?), they dont help anyone by making accusation's, flaming and genrally stiring the ****, just suck it all up, bite the bullet put it down to a bad chapter and play eve thats what we do, some you win some you loose.
Right, im off to fit a bathroom double glazed window while the wife out, better get my arse away from the computer and get on before im really in trouble.......
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Demondrew
Minmatar Cirrius Technologies O X I D E
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Posted - 2007.11.11 11:40:00 -
[413]
Edited by: Demondrew on 11/11/2007 11:40:42 * Demondrew Shoots this thread since most of the content no longer contains current evens of OXIDE/Invictus or Iron atm.
I will say that OXIDE is moving out and moving on GL to the People that are friends and GF to you that have been enemies. Things didn't work for us in the Drone regions maybe we will find a better fit. No smack just Props all my pilots that stuck to OXIDE thanks.
Demondrew Noobsause OXIDE-CEOish Space Lawyer for hire Jump Gate inspector Cigar Club President
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Banlish
Di-Tron Heavy Industries Atlas Alliance
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Posted - 2007.11.11 11:49:00 -
[414]
Originally by: Seblis Hyperion Seams our new neighbors (ATLAS) are not very honorable. Atlas new owners who were blue asked DMC to remove it's tower in b-7 and fletcher went there to remove it since it was their space. as it was just unachored fletcher was killed and podded and then told that DMC was being set red. this is the convo.
2007.11.11 03:47
Bobby Atlas | ATLAS Alliance 2nd in Command
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Channel ID: 2125379062 Channel Name: Private Chat (Bobby Atlas) Listener: Fletcher Vardy Session started: 2007.11.10 23:04:30 ---------------------------------------------------------------
[ 2007.11.10 23:04:46 ] Fletcher Vardy > hello [ 2007.11.10 23:04:46 ] Bobby Atlas > o/ [ 2007.11.10 23:05:07 ] Bobby Atlas > politics [ 2007.11.10 23:05:09 ] Bobby Atlas > they suck eh? [ 2007.11.10 23:05:13 ] Fletcher Vardy > hehe [ 2007.11.10 23:05:13 ] Bobby Atlas > how goes it? [ 2007.11.10 23:05:25 ] Fletcher Vardy > allright i quess been busy [ 2007.11.10 23:05:44 ] Fletcher Vardy > u? [ 2007.11.10 23:06:04 ] Bobby Atlas > pretty good [ 2007.11.10 23:06:09 ] Bobby Atlas > dmc has a large tower up in b-7L [ 2007.11.10 23:06:20 ] Bobby Atlas > we would like it removed today please if possible [ 2007.11.10 23:06:24 ] Fletcher Vardy > yes [ 2007.11.10 23:06:34 ] Bobby Atlas > alright just wanted to make sure [ 2007.11.10 23:06:35 ] Bobby Atlas > :) [ 2007.11.10 23:06:45 ] Fletcher Vardy > its almost out of fuel atm [ 2007.11.10 23:06:57 ] Fletcher Vardy > but now that all is clear in system [ 2007.11.10 23:07:04 ] Fletcher Vardy > i will come over and remove [ 2007.11.10 23:07:10 ] Bobby Atlas > thanks mate [ 2007.11.10 23:07:19 ] Fletcher Vardy > np m8 [ 2007.11.10 23:07:47 ] Fletcher Vardy > ok fly nasty 07 [ 2007.11.10 23:07:56 ] Bobby Atlas > o/ [ 2007.11.11 01:09:40 ] Fletcher Vardy > o/ [ 2007.11.11 01:10:06 ] Fletcher Vardy > u need me there now m8 [ 2007.11.11 01:10:08 ] Bobby Atlas > what type of tower is that again? [ 2007.11.11 01:10:13 ] Fletcher Vardy > amarr [ 2007.11.11 01:10:16 ] Fletcher Vardy > faction [ 2007.11.11 01:10:16 ] Bobby Atlas > ya we got someone waiting to anchor stuff [ 2007.11.11 01:10:28 ] Fletcher Vardy > ok rgr omw [ 2007.11.11 01:10:35 ] Bobby Atlas > ty mate appreciate it [ 2007.11.11 01:10:52 ] Fletcher Vardy > np i understand .11 03:30:33 ] Fletcher Vardy > that was a low blow [ 2007.11.11 03:30:47 ] Fletcher Vardy > attacking tower before it is unachored [ 2007.11.11 03:30:58 ] Bobby Atlas > we didnt attack it [ 2007.11.11 03:31:00 ] Bobby Atlas > we scooped it [ 2007.11.11 03:31:06 ] Fletcher Vardy > u are as we speak [ 2007.11.11 03:31:24 ] Fletcher Vardy > it has 7 min [ 2007.11.11 03:31:31 ] Bobby Atlas > your mistaken [ 2007.11.11 03:31:32 ] Fletcher Vardy > till its unachored [ 2007.11.11 03:31:34 ] Bobby Atlas > that a new tower anchoring [ 2007.11.11 03:31:42 ] Bobby Atlas > your tower is in my hangar [ 2007.11.11 03:31:42 ] Fletcher Vardy > so wheres our tower [ 2007.11.11 03:32:17 ] Fletcher Vardy > well i would expect that that tower should be returned [ 2007.11.11 03:32:32 ] Bobby Atlas > i would expect you to wash my ass
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Banlish
Di-Tron Heavy Industries Atlas Alliance
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Posted - 2007.11.11 11:50:00 -
[415]
I quoted the above to make sure no one could 'edit' their post.
If it was the ENTIRE log, there wouldn't be a missing bit there (an hour in the log has passed)
So something went wrong, and your not posting the entire log.
Sorry, but I made sure to put these posts up and will NOT edit them to make sure the evidence is there.
-Ban
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Kerdrak
3B Legio IX Atlas Alliance
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Posted - 2007.11.11 14:22:00 -
[416]
Posting private convos in public forums is bad. Modifying them for trolling is worst. Talking about "honour" while doing all this is hilarious  ________________________________________
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Seblis Hyperion
54th Knights Templar Dark Matter Coalition
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Posted - 2007.11.11 16:05:00 -
[417]
still didn't edit it that one line got cut off from cut n paste but belive what you will no use arguing with people who don't want to belive or more likly don't care.
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RaV1N
Caldari The Older Gamers R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2007.11.11 16:17:00 -
[418]
I dont think it is so much the cut of part as it is the time stamp. I wasn't there so I can't really comment but it does look suspicious.
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dastommy79
Di-Tron Heavy Industries Atlas Alliance
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Posted - 2007.11.11 16:26:00 -
[419]
Wow what do i miss when i go to sleep. I told ya drone politics is confusing.
I need to get in game stat.
I driks lot *signature removed - please do not bypass the profanity filter in your signature graphic - Jacques([email protected])*
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Nhoj Sllew
Amarr Interstellar eXodus R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2007.11.11 17:02:00 -
[420]
ok this thread is funny again -- Peanut Swsh > is peoke really a small african child with an extremely poor grasp on the english language?
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