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Tumahub
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
2339
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Posted - 2013.07.05 19:52:00 -
[45211] - Quote
Yep the theme is "oh lawdy, lookit the disastah! I'm gunnah DIE!"
*trumpets* A light shines in the western sky *drums*
"Oh mah gawd it's the GUBMINT come to save my poor pitiful ignorant civilian arse!"
*homage to the flag and/or some religious figure*
*lots of shots of people in uniform doing things*
:credits: |

Bendonni Narri
Red Federation RvB - RED Federation
1755
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Posted - 2013.07.05 19:58:00 -
[45212] - Quote
Tumahub wrote:Yep the theme is "oh lawdy, lookit the disastah! I'm gunnah DIE!"
*trumpets* A light shines in the western sky *drums*
"Oh mah gawd it's the GUBMINT come to save my poor pitiful ignorant civilian arse!"
*homage to the flag and/or some religious figure*
*lots of shots of people in uniform doing things*
:credits:
What did I just read? S+ásŬµÿ»µ¦¬F¦¦S¦å20tºÆt++F»æpÇé
Remember Saede.
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Tumahub
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
2342
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Posted - 2013.07.05 20:00:00 -
[45213] - Quote
Bendonni Narri wrote:Tumahub wrote:Yep the theme is "oh lawdy, lookit the disastah! I'm gunnah DIE!"
*trumpets* A light shines in the western sky *drums*
"Oh mah gawd it's the GUBMINT come to save my poor pitiful ignorant civilian arse!"
*homage to the flag and/or some religious figure*
*lots of shots of people in uniform doing things*
:credits: What did I just read?
The narrative of every Hollywood blockbuster since the late 80's.
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Kirjava
Lothian Enterprises
23748
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Posted - 2013.07.05 20:01:00 -
[45214] - Quote
I just want Wall Street 3.
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Bendonni Narri
Red Federation RvB - RED Federation
1757
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Posted - 2013.07.05 20:05:00 -
[45215] - Quote
Tumahub wrote:Bendonni Narri wrote:Tumahub wrote:Yep the theme is "oh lawdy, lookit the disastah! I'm gunnah DIE!"
*trumpets* A light shines in the western sky *drums*
"Oh mah gawd it's the GUBMINT come to save my poor pitiful ignorant civilian arse!"
*homage to the flag and/or some religious figure*
*lots of shots of people in uniform doing things*
:credits: What did I just read? The narrative of every Hollywood blockbuster since the late 80's.
Come now, there's been a lot of cliche plots from hollywood since the 80's, but surely ALL of them aren't like that. S+ásŬµÿ»µ¦¬F¦¦S¦å20tºÆt++F»æpÇé
Remember Saede.
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Kirjava
Lothian Enterprises
23749
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Posted - 2013.07.05 20:09:00 -
[45216] - Quote
Bendonni Narri wrote:
Come now, there's been a lot of cliche plots from hollywood since the 80's, but surely ALL of them aren't like that.
Scientific method, disprove it to prove your arguerment.
Racking my head and I can't think of any...
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Tumahub
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
2343
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Posted - 2013.07.05 20:12:00 -
[45217] - Quote
Bendonni Narri wrote:Tumahub wrote:Bendonni Narri wrote:Tumahub wrote:Yep the theme is "oh lawdy, lookit the disastah! I'm gunnah DIE!"
*trumpets* A light shines in the western sky *drums*
"Oh mah gawd it's the GUBMINT come to save my poor pitiful ignorant civilian arse!"
*homage to the flag and/or some religious figure*
*lots of shots of people in uniform doing things*
:credits: What did I just read? The narrative of every Hollywood blockbuster since the late 80's. Come now, there's been a lot of cliche plots from hollywood since the 80's, but surely ALL of them aren't like that.
Well, some are worse than others. |

Jayem See
Biohazard.
417
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Posted - 2013.07.05 20:26:00 -
[45218] - Quote
Give me Happy Feet 1 every time. That is film mastery.
Edit: I love penguins. It's just a thing I have. Noses, penguins, redheads, crap jokes. No order particularly. Aaaaaaand relax. |

Bendonni Narri
Red Federation RvB - RED Federation
1767
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Posted - 2013.07.05 20:28:00 -
[45219] - Quote
Tumahub wrote:Bendonni Narri wrote:Tumahub wrote:Bendonni Narri wrote:Tumahub wrote:Yep the theme is "oh lawdy, lookit the disastah! I'm gunnah DIE!"
*trumpets* A light shines in the western sky *drums*
"Oh mah gawd it's the GUBMINT come to save my poor pitiful ignorant civilian arse!"
*homage to the flag and/or some religious figure*
*lots of shots of people in uniform doing things*
:credits: What did I just read? The narrative of every Hollywood blockbuster since the late 80's. Come now, there's been a lot of cliche plots from hollywood since the 80's, but surely ALL of them aren't like that. Well, some are worse than others. Come to think of it this has been the narrative since long before the 80's, but I can't personally attest to many blockbuster films prior to the early 80's.
There was kind of a lull during the 70's. (Well, aside from Star wars and Alien, that is.)
S+ásŬµÿ»µ¦¬F¦¦S¦å20tºÆt++F»æpÇé
Remember Saede.
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Random McNally
Red Federation RvB - RED Federation
19969
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Posted - 2013.07.05 20:30:00 -
[45220] - Quote
Graygor-still on holidays.
Busy though. Cleaning the house while the wife is away. Red Fed Grunt.-á Co-Host of the High Drag Podcast. http://highdrag.wordpress.com/ UNBAN SAEDE!-á ALICE SAKI FOR OOPE MODERATOR!-á Make it so! |

Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
18714
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Posted - 2013.07.05 20:36:00 -
[45221] - Quote
Kirjava wrote:I just want Wall Street 3.
Seriously. It would mean another collaboration of David Byrne and Brian Eno, to be usurped as the soundtrack yet again. |

Tumahub
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
2361
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Posted - 2013.07.05 20:36:00 -
[45222] - Quote
Bendonni Narri wrote: There was kind of a lull during the 70's. (Well, aside from Star wars and Alien, that is.)
Yeah I'd say during the late 60's and early 70's there were probably some popular hits that broke the mold. Popular opinion at that time was really against the ongoing war and all the wacky political disasters (bay of pigs, watergate, etc.). Still, if you look at the most popular genre of that era (westerns) the films which championed the dissident or the general populace rather than the state agency of the Sheriff, Pinkerton, etc. were few and far between.
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Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
18715
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Posted - 2013.07.05 20:38:00 -
[45223] - Quote
Bendonni Narri wrote:Tumahub wrote:Bendonni Narri wrote:Tumahub wrote:Yep the theme is "oh lawdy, lookit the disastah! I'm gunnah DIE!"
*trumpets* A light shines in the western sky *drums*
"Oh mah gawd it's the GUBMINT come to save my poor pitiful ignorant civilian arse!"
*homage to the flag and/or some religious figure*
*lots of shots of people in uniform doing things*
:credits: What did I just read? The narrative of every Hollywood blockbuster since the late 80's. Come now, there's been a lot of cliche plots from hollywood since the 80's, but surely ALL of them aren't like that.
Agreed. I can make a sarcastic list of them too, but it would be totally different. This just sounds like a description of "Red Dawn" anyway....and that was early 80s.
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Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
18715
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Posted - 2013.07.05 20:40:00 -
[45224] - Quote
Tumahub wrote:Bendonni Narri wrote: There was kind of a lull during the 70's. (Well, aside from Star wars and Alien, that is.)
Yeah I'd say during the late 60's and early 70's there were probably some popular hits that broke the mold. Popular opinion at that time was really against the ongoing war and all the wacky political disasters (bay of pigs, watergate, etc.). Still, if you look at the most popular genre of that era (westerns) the films which championed the dissident or the general populace rather than the state agency of the Sheriff, Pinkerton, etc. were few and far between.
Bay of Pigs was 12 years before Watergate. Not even in the same 'era'.
Edit: Westerns were popular until the late 1950's...........even earlier. It was dead by 1962 and moved to mainly television (Bonanza, Gunsmoke) where it had always been a staple. |

Tumahub
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
2361
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Posted - 2013.07.05 20:43:00 -
[45225] - Quote
It really applies to every action, adventure, or sci-fi genre film. Not to mention more than a few comedies and dramas. |

Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
18715
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Posted - 2013.07.05 20:44:00 -
[45226] - Quote
Tumahub wrote:It really applies to every action, adventure, or sci-fi genre film. Not to mention more than a few comedies and dramas.
Oh yeah. I see TONS of your description in "Avatar". NOT.
Didn't they even make the guys in uniform leave ? |

DeMichael Crimson
Republic University Minmatar Republic
8944
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Posted - 2013.07.05 20:47:00 -
[45227] - Quote
OK, a new page with some selective LIKES distributed.
Going with old skool rules now. No more mass Likes per page. Gotta give to receive.

And to those who are pissed off / don't like it or don't like me for that matter, tough ( o )( o ).
DMC |

Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
18722
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Posted - 2013.07.05 20:48:00 -
[45228] - Quote
Tumahub wrote:It really applies to every action, adventure, or sci-fi genre film. Not to mention more than a few comedies and dramas.
[quote=Krixtal Icefluxor]
Westerns were definitely a staple for longer than just that period of time...............
They were not. I WAS THERE. |

Kirjava
Lothian Enterprises
23759
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Posted - 2013.07.05 20:50:00 -
[45229] - Quote
I also liked the Smartest Guys in the Room and Pirates of Silicon Valley.
Knew a lass that had to watch them for a class and hated them, couldn't understand why I loved them. 
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Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
18722
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Posted - 2013.07.05 20:51:00 -
[45230] - Quote
Tumahub wrote: The birth of the modern "progressive," era is widely regarded as beginning in the early 60's and continuing to the mi 70's. So I think it's fair to refer to that as part of the same era of political sentiment in the US. 17 April 1961 was the Bay of Pigs invasion. June 17, 1972 was the night of the break-in that launched watergate.
America in 1961 and America in 1972-74 were 2 completely different countries. There was a completely psychologically devastating war in between those dates utterly changing everything.
The Modern Era is considered having started in the 1920's and extended to 1964, the beginning of the Vietnam War. After that, we are considered the PostModern Era.
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Tumahub
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
2363
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Posted - 2013.07.05 20:52:00 -
[45231] - Quote
Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:Tumahub wrote:It really applies to every action, adventure, or sci-fi genre film. Not to mention more than a few comedies and dramas. Oh yeah. I see TONS of your description in "Avatar". NOT. Didn't they even make the guys in uniform leave ?
Avatar is an inversion of the standard model because it came about during the Bush era when the left was still anti-war. It also more or less labels the state agency there as a market force (by terming the invading colonial forces as a "corporation," which coincidentally, is a state construct).
The protagonists in Avatar are anti-technology and anti-war more than they are anti-state. In the end of the film the state research outpost remains on the planet, but the evil industrialists and mercenaries are forced to leave. Presumably this is a victory for both the state and "nature," over the forces of greed; however, it's not assumed that the state won't return at some point to take control over their colony.
Curiously we haven't seen a film so vehemently anti-war during the current administration because more of the leftist movement has gotten behind the imperial war machine while they are in political control. |

Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
18722
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Posted - 2013.07.05 20:54:00 -
[45232] - Quote
Tumahub wrote:Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:Tumahub wrote:It really applies to every action, adventure, or sci-fi genre film. Not to mention more than a few comedies and dramas. Oh yeah. I see TONS of your description in "Avatar". NOT. Didn't they even make the guys in uniform leave ? Avatar is an inversion of the standard model because it came about during the Bush era when the left was still anti-war.
Dude. Avatar was released in 2009, a year into Obama's Administration.
Edit: Also, the left has always been anti-war. Still is. Probably will always be.
Are you for real ??? |

Tumahub
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
2366
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Posted - 2013.07.05 20:56:00 -
[45233] - Quote
Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:Tumahub wrote: The birth of the modern "progressive," era is widely regarded as beginning in the early 60's and continuing to the mi 70's. So I think it's fair to refer to that as part of the same era of political sentiment in the US. 17 April 1961 was the Bay of Pigs invasion. June 17, 1972 was the night of the break-in that launched watergate.
America in 1961 and America in 1972-74 were 2 completely different countries. There was a completely psychologically devastating war in between those dates utterly changing everything. The Modern Era is considered having started in the 1920's and extended to 1964, the beginning of the Vietnam War. After that, we are considered the PostModern Era.
The vietnam war bridges the gap between those two eras, as does the all-encompassing cold-war. I don't think how you can honestly say the psychology of those eras was dramatically different.
If you want to split hairs over the birth of post-modern relativism, then be my guest, but it doesn't actually critique my observation about popular films spanning the pre and postmodern eras in the US. |

Tumahub
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
2366
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Posted - 2013.07.05 20:58:00 -
[45234] - Quote
Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:Tumahub wrote:Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:Tumahub wrote:It really applies to every action, adventure, or sci-fi genre film. Not to mention more than a few comedies and dramas. Oh yeah. I see TONS of your description in "Avatar". NOT. Didn't they even make the guys in uniform leave ? Avatar is an inversion of the standard model because it came about during the Bush era when the left was still anti-war. Dude. Avatar was released in 2009, a year into Obama's Administration. Edit: Also, the left has always been anti-war. Still is. Probably will always be. Are you for real ???
It was filmed and produced years before he took office, obviously.
The left is no longer protesting nearly as much as they were. To claim otherwise is completely ridiculous. |

Kirjava
Lothian Enterprises
23766
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Posted - 2013.07.05 21:01:00 -
[45235] - Quote
And right now the EU is arguing over what they are going to take Obama to hand over the NSA spying. It's almost as if Europes looking at the USA and wondering about its intentions given the talk about how its worse than what the USSR did and all....
Methinks we are in a distinctly different to the Post 9/11 era, there's a dissonance across the Atlantic and China is coming on to the scene. Also the Arab Spring happened and I get the distinct feeling at every level of government noone knows who's who's ally right now and whats going on as its all up in the air.
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Tumahub
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
2375
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Posted - 2013.07.05 21:04:00 -
[45236] - Quote
Kirjava wrote:And right now the EU is arguing over what they are going to take Obama to hand over the NSA spying. It's almost as if Europes looking at the USA and wondering about its intentions given the talk about how its worse than what the USSR did and all....
Don't hold your breath. The French, Spanish, Portuguese, and Austrians complied with the US to bring down the Bolivian President's private jet in order to search for Snowden (whom they totally don't care about anymore, honest). They're talking about being critical of the administration, but it's all hurf as far as I can see. |

Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
18736
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Posted - 2013.07.05 21:06:00 -
[45237] - Quote
Tumahub wrote: The vietnam war bridges the gap between those two eras, as does the all-encompassing cold-war. I don't think how you can honestly say the psychology of those eras was dramatically different.
Utterly different. Besides no Vietnam yet during the earlier period, the Civil Rights Act had not even been enacted.
Look. I was there. You were not. Stop trying to be 'right'. You have enough errors in your movie 'information', much less history of politics and popular culture. You aren't gaining much respect here, at all.
So just stop now before you make one of the fine posters in this thread, as they mostly are, angry. |

Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
18736
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Posted - 2013.07.05 21:08:00 -
[45238] - Quote
Just because one is not out on the street does not mean one does not have the sentiment. What idiotic reasoning. Seriously idiotic.
Besides, no new 'wars' have started up in almost 10 years to protest. We exhausted ourselves in 2003 on the streets but there has been nothing to do since then. I know. I marched. In San Francisco. I WAS THERE.
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Bendonni Narri
Red Federation RvB - RED Federation
1774
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Posted - 2013.07.05 21:08:00 -
[45239] - Quote
Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:Tumahub wrote: The vietnam war bridges the gap between those two eras, as does the all-encompassing cold-war. I don't think how you can honestly say the psychology of those eras was dramatically different.
Utterly different. Besides no Vietnam yet during the earlier period, the Civil Rights Act had not even been enacted. Look. I was there. You were not. Stop trying to be 'right'. You have enough errors in your movie 'information', much less history of politics and popular culture. You aren't gaining much respect here, at all. So just stop now before you make one of the fine posters in this thread, as they mostly are, angry.
Can we just move on? S+ásŬµÿ»µ¦¬F¦¦S¦å20tºÆt++F»æpÇé
Remember Saede.
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Kirjava
Lothian Enterprises
23766
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Posted - 2013.07.05 21:08:00 -
[45240] - Quote
Tumahub wrote:Kirjava wrote:And right now the EU is arguing over what they are going to take Obama to hand over the NSA spying. It's almost as if Europes looking at the USA and wondering about its intentions given the talk about how its worse than what the USSR did and all.... Don't hold your breath. The French, Spanish, Portuguese, and Austrians complied with the US to bring down the Bolivian President's private jet in order to search for Snowden (whom they totally don't care about anymore, honest). They're talking about being critical of the administration, but it's all hurf as far as I can see. My thoughts too, though its intriguing to watch as we scratch to see how deep the rabbit hole goes. I honestly didn't see them grounding a third party transport to search for him, yet alone a presidential one. Something definately spooked them and I would be very curious to know what Obama threatened them with.
I'm keeping an eye on how Russias watching the EU, be interesting if they start getting palsy and focusing on a CIS/EU partnership instead of the EU/NAFTA talks.
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