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NL Nataku
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Posted - 2007.12.06 10:42:00 -
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I installed the update last night and read about the boot.ini bug right before i went to bed. The thing is it was still there.
And yes i am running XP (Pro version though maybe its just home edition effected i dunno dont blame me for not reading the entire topic) with SP2 but my boot.ini is still were its suppose to be.
Gonna update my eve client on my other pc in a minute see if it happens there.
Greetz Nata
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Vikarion
United Heavens
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Posted - 2007.12.06 10:42:00 -
[272]
 Originally by: Sylfamas
thx ccp. You could've announced this through an alert in-game. Well i'll have to reinstall windows apparently. Again thank you, ccp. Btw: i have windows xp sp2, so it affects all versions of windows
Don't uninstall Windows. You don't need to. Just fix it with the fixes posted at the top of the thread.
And they did alert people in game. I know, because I was alerted.
And it only affects Windows XP, if it's on the same hard drive as EvE.
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EvilSpork
Blackguard Brigade
Aftermath Alliance
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Posted - 2007.12.06 10:42:00 -
[273]
Originally by: Vikarion
I think I can help this.
If you downloaded the premium content patch, and you have windows XP, and EvE is on the same hard drive that Windows is on, do not turn off your computer. It will not start again. Instead, follow the directions in the first post. Period. Whining will make your computer burst into flames.
Think that will help?
also note that it only applies if you downloaded the patch within the first ~2 hours of its release. after that it was fixed.
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Vikarion
United Heavens
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Posted - 2007.12.06 10:44:00 -
[274]
Gah, Evilspork, you found me making a mistake.  First time ever.
BTW, love the name.
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NL Nataku
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Posted - 2007.12.06 10:45:00 -
[275]
Originally by: Vikarion
I think I can help this.
If you downloaded the premium content patch, and you have windows XP, and EvE is on the same hard drive that Windows is on, do not turn off your computer. It will not start again. Instead, follow the directions in the first post. Period. Whining will make your computer burst into flames.
Think that will help?
O that explains alot since none of my games are on my C drive it only hold my program files and windows.
Greetz Nata
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Marco Tilnar
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Posted - 2007.12.06 10:47:00 -
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Thanks for the warning 8h after my windows install crashed... You just wasted my windows install (well at least my option to boot it) until I get back home where my install is - in a few months. Maybe I can solve this with MacFuse but I havent figured it out yet.
1) Why are you even touching my boot.ini? I cant think of when I agreed to that.
2) I expect some sort of compensation for this. I'm now stuck in os x with the crappy os x client if I want to play and that's kinda not all I do as I use windows and os x on a daily work basis.
Feel free to come by and fix this or snailmail me another windows install. You have my email and expect you to contact me to resolve this issue.
Best regards,
a _very_ unhappy customer
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proclaimed HERETIC
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Posted - 2007.12.06 10:47:00 -
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I really wonder how long it will take everyone to figure out they are posting the same boot.ini file regardless of XP type.
Only difference is the prompt label between all of them.... geeeeeezzzzzzzzz.
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Lew Djarum
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Posted - 2007.12.06 10:49:00 -
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I'm running XP SP2. I upon upgrading to the premium pack had some graphics issues so I rebooted. Much to my surprise I received the error "hal.dll missing or corrupt from c:/windows/system32" I booted from CD and could see from DOS that the file was still there. I checked the forums from another computer and there was no sign that anyone else was having any issues. I called a friend who said that he had not upgraded yet, but also did not see anything on the forums about my issue. Figuring that I was either an isolated case or that some weird coincidence was happening, I tried to copy a duplicate hal.dll into my system32 directory. Needless to say it didn't work, and I spent 5+ hours doing a clean install, blaming Windows the entire time.
I'm just completely dumbfounded. How CCP doesn't stumble across the WHOOPSIE our patch erases important system files on the most abundant operating system in the world, when people upgrade the most logical way. Perhaps instead of wasting resources making videos touting their ability to make a station out of 8 billion polygons, they could have actually tested the upgrade on the operating system that a large percentage of their paying customers use.
Congratulations to your quality control team. They handled this with all the competence of an Aboriginal tribe constructing a Ferris wheel out of cheese.
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proclaimed HERETIC
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Posted - 2007.12.06 10:50:00 -
[279]
chk the left nav bar for "EVE Client"... that's the full DL.
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Takumi Vetinari
Amarr
Odessa Operations
Sylph Alliance
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Posted - 2007.12.06 10:51:00 -
[280]
Originally by: N1fty
I love how this mostly affects people who don't know much about computers; most savvy people will have put EVE on a different partition or drive to their OS.
Pardon me, but why? I don't find that programs on the boot partition have a significant, detrimental affect on system performance, so, pray tell, why would savvy people put EVE elsewhere?
A slightly trite, sweeping generalisation, to my mind.
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Krima Sumyungi
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Posted - 2007.12.06 10:51:00 -
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Nice first impression for those who waited for Trinity to hit before giving the game a try. I'm sure alot of first time trial accounts have decided not to subscribe because of this fiasco, especially if their comps were affected.
GG CCP.
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proclaimed HERETIC
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Posted - 2007.12.06 10:53:00 -
[282]
Originally by: Lew Djarum
I'm just completely dumbfounded. How CCP doesn't stumble across the WHOOPSIE our patch erases important system files on the most abundant operating system in the world, when people upgrade the most logical way. Perhaps instead of wasting resources making videos touting their ability to make a station out of 8 billion polygons, they could have actually tested the upgrade on the operating system that a large percentage of their paying customers use.
Congratulations to your quality control team. They handled this with all the competence of an Aboriginal tribe constructing a Ferris wheel out of cheese.
Thank you Captain Obvious for that tid bit of knowledge that was never shared before. Your being part of the problem, not the solution.
Is anyone still down?
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Alitha Maru
Minmatar
Hidden Agenda
Deep Space Engineering
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Posted - 2007.12.06 10:54:00 -
[283]
Pretty please, with sugar on top, can anyone give me a response on my post here?
No one has even mentioned dual-boot systems.
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Vikarion
United Heavens
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Posted - 2007.12.06 10:55:00 -
[284]
Originally by: Krima Sumyungi
Nice first impression for those who waited for Trinity to hit before giving the game a try. I'm sure alot of first time trial accounts have decided not to subscribe because of this fiasco, especially if their comps were affected.
GG CCP.
Um, no one who downloaded the new client was affected. Only those who upgraded.
::bites tongue::
And for the other poster, many people put EvE and other HD intensive games on a separate HD to A. speed up access times, and B. ease of use. I sure like that set-up.
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proclaimed HERETIC
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Posted - 2007.12.06 10:56:00 -
[285]
Originally by: Krima Sumyungi
Nice first impression for those who waited for Trinity to hit before giving the game a try. I'm sure alot of first time trial accounts have decided not to subscribe because of this fiasco, especially if their comps were affected.
GG CCP.
They can try their hands at World of Warcraft, and we'll be seeing them back next Tuesday.
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Vikarion
United Heavens
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Posted - 2007.12.06 10:57:00 -
[286]
Originally by: Alitha Maru
Pretty please, with sugar on top, can anyone give me a response on my post here?
No one has even mentioned dual-boot systems.
Alitha, I don't have experience with dual-boots, but you are almost certainly fine. Boot up in Vista and check the XP partition for boot.ini if you're worried, but it'll be pretty easy to fix even if it got deleted, since you can just boot in Vista.
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Alitha Maru
Minmatar
Hidden Agenda
Deep Space Engineering
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Posted - 2007.12.06 10:58:00 -
[287]
Originally by: Vikarion
Originally by: Alitha Maru
Pretty please, with sugar on top, can anyone give me a response on my post here?
No one has even mentioned dual-boot systems.
Alitha, I don't have experience with dual-boots, but you are almost certainly fine. Boot up in Vista and check the XP partition for boot.ini if you're worried, but it'll be pretty easy to fix even if it got deleted, since you can just boot in Vista.
Thank you for your reply, I can rest easier now 
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Johncrab
Minmatar
Typo Corp
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Posted - 2007.12.06 10:58:00 -
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Oh boy... I'm at work and having a slight panic attack here 
I updated from classic to premium just before coming to work. Then I shut down my PC eager to try the new graphics when I return home later. And now I'm reading that, most likelly, I won't be able to even turn my PC on. Not to mention my work and all the files I have there...
This time your screw up is just of the scale CCP. Never expected such irresponsible behavior... |
b1zz
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Posted - 2007.12.06 10:59:00 -
[289]
Can I remove my current installed version of Eve and not lose anything? Is anything of importance stored locally?
And why haven't they removed the option to update Eve if it's such a huge problem?
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Derelicht
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Posted - 2007.12.06 11:00:00 -
[290]
1. My XP Pro SP2 was fine. Game's installed on the windows, and another HD. No issues, thank ****.
2. GJ to the coder that though it was amusing to write del boot.ini in the patch. Look at you, you and your brilliant ideas.
3. /me wonders how many new people were driven away by the incompetence associated with this. I wonder how many people are sitting at home this sec with a fuxozerd PC trying to get it working, and can't. wtg. wtfg.
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Darcha
Republic University
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Posted - 2007.12.06 11:00:00 -
[291]
well, my windows should have died but I guess it didn't. I have xp sp2 and eve is installed on c:\ and I lost my boot.ini from my root but it booted like it always has. remade the file and it's all fine.
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"There are NO bugs in EVE, just oversights"
----- Oveur and TomB, EvE fanfest 2006 |
Meiyang Lee
Gallente
Azteca Transportation Unlimited
Gunboat Diplomacy
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Posted - 2007.12.06 11:00:00 -
[292]
Edited by: Meiyang Lee on 06/12/2007 11:02:04
Originally by: b1zz
Can I remove the old Eve client and not lose my character?
Is there a link to the full Trinity download so I can load the game from scratch?
Chars are stored on the server, not locally i believe. And installing a full build on top of your current one won't overwrite your cache anyway, just the main EVE directory.
On the top-left of the screen, click "EVE Client", then select your OS and then "Premium Graphics Content" and download. That's the full client with the new graphics. Install over your current build and all will be fine. If you're on the classic one, don't patch it with the new graphics until CCP confirms its alright.
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Vikarion
United Heavens
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Posted - 2007.12.06 11:01:00 -
[293]
Originally by: b1zz
Can I remove my current installed version of Eve and not lose anything? Is anything of importance stored locally?
And why haven't they removed the option to update Eve if it's such a huge problem?
Why delete it? It won't hurt anything. And they already removed the offending patch. It was the premium content, not the regular game or the trinity regular patch.
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Saru Kada
World Order
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Posted - 2007.12.06 11:01:00 -
[294]
Originally by: Sylfamas
thx ccp. You could've announced this through an alert in-game. Well i'll have to reinstall windows apparently. Again thank you, ccp. Btw: i have windows xp sp2, so it affects all versions of windows
if you've already restarted your computer and don't have access to a windows xp disk, a floppy boot disk can get you into DOS (assuming you have a floppy drive). rough outline of steps:
step 1: make a windows xp boot disk. you can use a friend's/coworker's/etc computer for this, as long as it's running windows xp. for instructions on how, look here under Create MS-DOS bootable diskette.
step 2: make a boot.ini file as according to step 3 here and copy it onto a second floppy disk. noet that where it says <<<see note below>>>, if you don't know what operating system you're running, simply substitute in anything you want (a simple "Microsoft Windows XP" will suffice). this line is actually purely descriptive and only for use in the BIOS display on dual/multiboot systems. just write something indicative of what OS you actually have (presumably XP in this case). make sure you label this disk in order to not get it mixed up with the boot disk you made in step 1.
step 3: on your computer's startup, go into BIOS (by mashing on the delete button in most cases) and change your boot priorities to A: first. it's hard to explain exactly how as this will vary from computer to computer, so grab a computer-savvy buddy over to help on this part (anybody with more than a passing knowledge of BIOS will know how, even over-the-phone tech support).
step 4: put in your boot disk (the one made in step 1) and restart your computer. after a bit of technical gibberish it should end up in DOS, and will say something like "C:\>". at this point, remove your boot disk and insert the second disk (the one you made in step 2). give it a few seconds, then type:
copy "a:\boot.ini" "c:\boot.ini"
and hit enter. after it's finished, it should say something along the lines of "1 file(s) copied." at this point, remove the floppy, and restart your computer. it should work!
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As but a single human being, my heart is moved not by the needs of the world around me but by that which I see in front of me. |
b1zz
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Posted - 2007.12.06 11:03:00 -
[295]
Originally by: Derelicht
3. /me wonders how many new people were driven away by the incompetence associated with this. I wonder how many people are sitting at home this sec with a fuxozerd PC trying to get it working, and can't. wtg. wtfg.
Well if they were new you'd assume they downloaded the full client and so avoided the problem.
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Saru Kada
World Order
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Posted - 2007.12.06 11:03:00 -
[296]
Originally by: proclaimed HERETIC
I really wonder how long it will take everyone to figure out they are posting the same boot.ini file regardless of XP type.
Only difference is the prompt label between all of them.... geeeeeezzzzzzzzz.
shhhhhhh. 
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As but a single human being, my heart is moved not by the needs of the world around me but by that which I see in front of me. |
Darcha
Republic University
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Posted - 2007.12.06 11:04:00 -
[297]
Originally by: b1zz
Can I remove my current installed version of Eve and not lose anything? Is anything of importance stored locally?
And why haven't they removed the option to update Eve if it's such a huge problem?
Use your explorer to browse to
C:\Documents and Settings\<your curent user>\Local Settings\Application Data\CCP\EVE\settings
Assuming c:\ is the drive for your windows install.
save the contents of that folder seperately and then u can reinstall eve.
This shouldn't really be necassery but better to be safe then sorry
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"There are NO bugs in EVE, just oversights"
----- Oveur and TomB, EvE fanfest 2006 |
Krima Sumyungi
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Posted - 2007.12.06 11:06:00 -
[298]
Originally by: Vikarion
Originally by: Krima Sumyungi
Nice first impression for those who waited for Trinity to hit before giving the game a try. I'm sure alot of first time trial accounts have decided not to subscribe because of this fiasco, especially if their comps were affected.
GG CCP.
Um, no one who downloaded the new client was affected. Only those who upgraded.
Yes, this stops them from hearing and seeing the problems created by CCP and thinking they might not wanna see what comes next that might affect them. Like I said, regardless if they were directly affected, it's their first impression of the game and its devs, and how the situation is handled. Such as, any warning or statements on the front page yet? Nope.
Originally by: proclaimed HERETIC
They can try their hands at World of Warcraft, and we'll be seeing them back next Tuesday.
If CCP shares your viewpoint, I'm sure the game will continue to prosper. /sarcasm
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Den enjen
Caldari
Red Dwarf Mining Corporation
space weaponry and trade
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Posted - 2007.12.06 11:06:00 -
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Edited by: Den enjen on 06/12/2007 11:07:01
If your kind of found of your work and other files, you won't save them in the standard directory's of windows. You save them on a separate partition. It's one of the basics of computer use. This in case of a virus or such (or an update)
Sure, CCP should have caught this bug. But still, a lot of solutions are available.
Just don't let the mass hype you up. Stay calm and look for the solution instead of shouting murder death kill without trying to solve this.
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Flashheart
Caldari
Dangermouse Inc.
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Posted - 2007.12.06 11:06:00 -
[300]
Jeez... I can't wait to tell the blokes at work about a commercial patch that deleted c:\boot.ini ...
They will say I'm making it up.
I work for Sophos, maybe I submit it as a critical threat :)
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