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Andrue Amarr	Posted - 2007.12.06 07:56:00 - [91] Edited by: Andrue on 06/12/2007 07:59:06 Hmmm. I wonder if my machine will be affected. I run as a limited user so it's a possibility that I might be protected. OTOH the upgrade did require me to run it as an admin account so probably not. Shouldn't be too hard to fix but seriously CCP - wtf? How in hell does upgrading a game client end up trashing boot.ini? -- (Battle hardened industrialist) [Brackley, UK] My budgie can say "ploppy bottom". You have been warned.
kaufmann Amarr	Posted - 2007.12.06 07:56:00 - [92] well, when will people learn that an imagefile of the system partition is essential, every little program or installation can screw your system. Murphy bites you someday, you cannot hide. but nevertheless i would say, that this should cost ccp at least one free t2 bpo for all
ArchenTheGreat Caldari D00M. Triumvirate.	Posted - 2007.12.06 07:57:00 - [93] Originally by: Galvatr0n Originally by: akakjs Originally by: Prince Sallerus This is the kind of mistake that makes a company CEO ask, very seriously, "who let this happen?" I'd like to add "Why is the installer even touching my system files!?!" as well... akakjs I second that motion. Why is CCP touching my system files? Because they made a mistake. They had boot.ini in their old EVE code but not in the new one. So patch deleted this file. The only problem is someone forgot to put proper path to this file and instead of deleting it from EVE folder it removes it from current directory. Unfortunately most of the time there is system file boot.ini there.
Dai Harde	Posted - 2007.12.06 07:58:00 - [94] Originally by: Red Panda For Dell users with a hidden restore partition You may use this boot.ini : [boot loader] timeout=30 default=multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(2)\WINDOWS [operating systems] multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(2)\WINDOWS="Microsoft Windows XP Professional" /fastdetect /NoExecute=OptIn I have a Dell laptop and I've been trying to get mine to check clear from msconfig boot.ini screen but it would keep saying the last line was bad. Then I seen you post and bam it checks fine now. Yep, duh, Dell has that hidden diag partition on it so its the number one partition and windows is on the second. Awesome thanks Red Panda So CCP you sending us all a case of some FINE ICELAND beer for the trouble right....or isk :P
Odeweaver Gallente	Posted - 2007.12.06 07:58:00 - [95] Originally by: kaufmann well, when will people learn that an imagefile of the system partition is essential, every little program or installation can screw your system. Murphy bites you someday, you cannot hide. but nevertheless i would say, that this should cost ccp at least one free t2 bpo for all I'd be happy with a hyperion -------- Pie mmmm pie - Immy DSFARGEG
Lazarann Ideal Machine	Posted - 2007.12.06 07:59:00 - [96] Originally by: Kittamaru I would like to state, for the record. XP Service Pack 2 should be immune to this... the boot.ini does not appear, but windows should load from the backup. I have re-tested it TWICE now, and can confirm it. Either my PC has self evolved and is able to heal itself, or it works. Period. Considering I tried it on a second PC, and my corpmates have tried this, I can safely give this a 100% YES SP2 fixes this problem. And yes, it was a simple typo... how I don't know. This didn't happen on SiSi... My laptop booted from the backup I'm assuming, since there's no boot.ini but it worked fine. My PC didn't HAVE a backup, so instead of taking the chance, I made a new boot.ini and it's currently booting up fine.
Bentula	Posted - 2007.12.06 07:59:00 - [97] Originally by: Neal Cassady Originally by: TheDevilsJury Edited by: TheDevilsJury on 06/12/2007 07:27:13 Originally by: Neal Cassady Originally by: Lazarann Originally by: Neal Cassady so if i already rebooted my machine am i screwed? Don't think so. I'm on my laptop right now, which has no boot.ini, and has been rebooted, so as long as you can get in Windows, you should be ok. um i can't im on a different computer. this is really making me want to quit this damn game. and before you ask for my stuff im putting it in a bunch of unlocked cans in amamake 3-1. Since it did not reboot sucessfully, you need to use your windows disk to restore your boot.ini file. There are instructions in an announcement in the Player News Center item. The instructions for those who rebooted are at the bottom, after clicking "Read more". yeah i lost my xp disk ages ago. any other options? Yes, for those of you without a WinXP bootdisk there is another option. There is the possibility of getting ntfs write support in linux bootdisks, which would allow you to access your c:\ drive and follow the create a new boot.ini following the instructions. I would advice someone making a new post in the windows troubleshooting section of these forums.
Yokan Daifuku Gallente The Flaming Sideburn's Hedonistic Imperative	Posted - 2007.12.06 08:00:00 - [98] Edited by: Yokan Daifuku on 06/12/2007 08:01:29 Here my two cents to verify your boot.ini file is there. Open a Command Prompt: Start > Run Enter "cmd" (no quotes) Click OK Enter: "dir C:\ /A:H" No quotes this will list the hidden files at C:\. Look for boot.ini. if it is missing or has a value of 0 next to it you have a problem. If it is not 0 use the command "type C:\boot.ini" No quotes. This will type the file into the command prompt, if it looks like the boot.ini examples posted in this thread it should be OK (no guarantees). Edit: Improved clarity. ---- Yo-con Die-foo-koo

CCP Mindstar	Posted - 2007.12.06 08:01:00 - [99] Another option we have put together which should be quite simple for users who find their boot.ini to be missing (and have not yet rebooted) is the following: Download: Windows XP (http://ccp.vo.llnwd.net/o2/boot/winxpboot.ini)( also windows 2000 installed in a folder named "Windows" ) OR Windows 2000 (http://ccp.vo.llnwd.net/o2/boot/win2kboot.ini) + Copy it into the root directory of your Windows drive (eg. C:\) + Rename it to "boot.ini" + Go to start, then Run and type in "msconfig" + Click on the "boot.ini" tab, and select "Check all boot paths" + There will be a series of popups for the invalid installation paths in the above files (14 if all goes to plan), and the correct settings will be placed in your boot.ini. Most likely, this file will contain the correct path to your windows installation somewhere there, and will be found by checking it using the msconfig tool. -- The cake is a lie!

wolfgarrr Caldari Venom Warriors	Posted - 2007.12.06 08:01:00 - [100] Edited by: wolfgarrr on 06/12/2007 08:04:29 Ok A lot of this is really good info guys BUT It is totally useless to the person who 1. Already shutdown their computer 2. Doesn't read the forums (See #1) 3. Is a average computer user (See #1-2) ^^ these 3 reasons will cause many many people to wake up tomorrow boot up their computers and not be able to. They will then go WTF?? And some will have family/friends who are computer savvy who will come fix their computers for them There is also a large group who will take their computers down to a shop to have it fixed. How this was allowed to happen is beyond me, While i am not advocating CCP Do a mass reimbursement , Explanations and apologies for this huge screwup is something they better do. Chalk up another black mark CCP .. Edit.. BTW.. How is a noob suposed to fix their computer etc if they cant even boot their system :P (Basicaly my point of this post) Originally by: CCP Wrangler Originally by: Thicky McThick Has anyone asked the hamsters yet? Don't be silly, the hamsters are animals, they can't speak.
Pilk Axiom Empire	Posted - 2007.12.06 08:02:00 - [101] Originally by: Kittamaru Originally by: Pepperami Originally by: Kittamaru JUST AN UPDATE: Windows XP Service Pack 2 is apparently IMMUNE to this bug... I have tested this, so have my corpmates. If you have Win XP SP 2 (and you SHOULD) you should be just fine! I have sp2 and it effected me, are you sure you weren't installing the full client or something? I'm 100% sure... I deliberately tried this on a separate machine (we have over a half dozen working Pc's in my household... go figure right?) and it worked fine. XP SP 2 does NOT allow the deletion of the boot.ini file. And even if it is deleted, it stores a backup that it will load instead. Either that or my PC has self evolved somehow... :P It's true that if your boot drive is 0:0/0, Windows will automatically attempt to boot it, even if no boot.ini is present. Perhaps that's what you're thinking of? Alternately, if you're installing Eve as a non-Administrator user, obviously, you won't be able to mess about with the boot.ini file. Lastly, one might easily imagine that other software (antivirus, performance-tuner apps, etc.) might monitor boot.ini or replace it should it become damaged. However, I'm on XP SP2, all the latest patches, and I definitely got hit with this. So, even if your computer is magically more awesome than everyone else's, please stop spreading information that, by and large, even if not in your particular case, is incorrect. --P Kosh: The avalanche has already started. It is too late for the pebbles to vote.
Haclya	Posted - 2007.12.06 08:02:00 - [102] Edited by: Haclya on 06/12/2007 08:06:00 NVM
Tango Sokolov	Posted - 2007.12.06 08:02:00 - [103] Edited by: Tango Sokolov on 06/12/2007 08:04:24 Originally by: Tango Sokolov Here is why restarting your computer even with a nuked boot.ini works: If you have edited nothing after your boot.ini was killed, and you restart, Windows will choke while trying to find the file and call to the backup. It replaces the file on it's own. I AM NOT SAYING GO RESTART YOUR COMPUTER. I however, am on a boot camped MacBook Pro, and am now screwed. Very very screwed. OKAY! I finally fixed the issue without having to go back a few days and delete a bunch of my new Illustrator work in the process. FOR BOOT CAMP USERS: Your boot.ini file should look like this: [boot loader] timeout=30 default=multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(3)\WINDOWS [operating systems] multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(3)\WINDOWS="Microsoft Windows XP Professional" /noexecute=optin /fastdetect Boot Camp makes an odd partition and I haven't figured out it's use, but that means it puts XP on the third partition. It also requires "/noexecute=optin". This has been tested and works fine. Follow the normal instructions to creating a new boot.ini file and place the above text in the file instead. I hope this helps, I'm not sure how many Boot Camp users there are out there. This is also exactly like the Dell boot.ini, but with partition 3 instead of 2.
Erotic Irony 0bsession	Posted - 2007.12.06 08:03:00 - [104] Originally by: Lazarann Originally by: Kittamaru Originally by: Pepperami Originally by: Kittamaru JUST AN UPDATE: Windows XP Service Pack 2 is apparently IMMUNE to this bug... I have tested this, so have my corpmates. If you have Win XP SP 2 (and you SHOULD) you should be just fine! I have sp2 and it effected me, are you sure you weren't installing the full client or something? I'm 100% sure... I deliberately tried this on a separate machine (we have over a half dozen working Pc's in my household... go figure right?) and it worked fine. XP SP 2 does NOT allow the deletion of the boot.ini file. And even if it is deleted, it stores a backup that it will load instead. Either that or my PC has self evolved somehow... :P Service Pack 2 is irrelevant. I have a PC with XP Home and a laptop with XP Pro, both with SP2 and both lost their boot.ini kittamaru's counterproductive suggestions itt ___ Eve Players are not very smart. Support Killmail Overhaul
traderunner	Posted - 2007.12.06 08:04:00 - [105] PLEASE HELP !!!!! ok iv read about 3 pages of this boot.ini mess-up and just wanted to make shore be for i reboot that iv got it right, iv got a file called BOOT.INI and in it is [boot loader] timeout=0 default=multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(2)\WINDOWS [operating systems] multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(2)\WINDOWS="Windows XP Media Center Edition" /fastdetect /NoExecute=OptIn C:\CMDCONS\BOOTSECT.DAT="Microsoft Windows Recovery Console" /cmdcons is this right ?
Eval B'Stard Minmatar Republic Military School	Posted - 2007.12.06 08:05:00 - [106] God am I glad I was at work when the server came back up, at least I found out about this BEFORE i did the update. Major FAIL on CCP's part though. ------------------------------------------- When we gonna see the 40km and 80km tractor beams ?
wolfgarrr Caldari Venom Warriors	Posted - 2007.12.06 08:06:00 - [107] Edited by: wolfgarrr on 06/12/2007 08:05:48 Originally by: traderunner PLEASE HELP !!!!! ok iv read about 3 pages of this boot.ini mess-up and just wanted to make shore be for i reboot that iv got it right, iv got a file called BOOT.INI and in it is [boot loader] timeout=0 default=multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(2)\WINDOWS [operating systems] multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(2)\WINDOWS="Windows XP Media Center Edition" /fastdetect /NoExecute=OptIn C:\CMDCONS\BOOTSECT.DAT="Microsoft Windows Recovery Console" /cmdcons is this right ? you should be fine mate :) Originally by: CCP Wrangler Originally by: Thicky McThick Has anyone asked the hamsters yet? Don't be silly, the hamsters are animals, they can't speak.
speedo	Posted - 2007.12.06 08:06:00 - [108] Hi, I have let the client do the auto patch (classic) for my OS which is Windows XP Pro 64bit Does it affect this OS? My boot ini is as follows after the patch.. [boot loader] timeout=30 default=multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINDOWS [operating systems] multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINDOWS="Windows XP Professional x64 Edition" /noexecute=optin /fastdetect /usepmtimer

CCP Lingorm	Posted - 2007.12.06 08:06:00 - [109] Traderunner. Yes! That looks right. CCP Lingorm CCP Quality Assurance QA Engineering Team Leader


CCP Lingorm	Posted - 2007.12.06 08:08:00 - [110] speedo > You are not effected if you only did the autopatch. If you downloaded and applied the Premium content then you could be effected. CCP Lingorm CCP Quality Assurance QA Engineering Team Leader

Viper's Venom	Posted - 2007.12.06 08:08:00 - [111] Originally by: CCP Lingorm Traderunner. Yes! That looks right. ok wish me luck in going for a reboot
Kendar Zek Gallente Interstellar Aid Society	Posted - 2007.12.06 08:12:00 - [112] Originally by: Apertotes tbh, boot.ini was overpowered and needed a nerf I nearly fell out of my chair laughing. -- Owner, Venture Racing Team
Odeweaver Gallente	Posted - 2007.12.06 08:14:00 - [113] Originally by: Abbala Brutori ...CCP. I hate you. I don't care if this is contructive or not. I have my Final paper due tomorrow. and guess what. MY computer restarted. and Now I can't get a number of very important file that I have to have in the next few days. I can only pray. that my professors have compassion on me. Because if not. YOu have just successfully caused me to Fail my English class. Thank you so very much. Had that happen last semester with my laptop, use a linux distro to pull the file off the disk then fix it, I recommend using Damn Small Linux in situations like this -------- Pie mmmm pie - Immy
Erotic Irony 0bsession	Posted - 2007.12.06 08:17:00 - [114] Edited by: Erotic Irony on 06/12/2007 08:18:04 Quote: We have taken down the ability to download the Classic to Premium upgrade patch until we have determined where the issue lies and how we can resolve this. Full install clients have not exhibited this issue and are safe to download. Just wanted some clarification: Is the 584mb patch here supposed to be disabled or has it already disappeared off the available patches page? The former is still downloadable. ___ Eve Players are not very smart. Support Killmail Overhaul
El'essar Viocragh Minmatar FSK23	Posted - 2007.12.06 08:17:00 - [115] There comes a time in one's life where one learns why using relative paths in scripts is bad. Sometimes you delete half your harddrive, sometimes other peoples boot.ini. Your installer asks for the installation directory. Save that as $BASEPATH Do not cd into $BASEPATH and work with relative paths from there. Bad things happen along that road. Prefix all you relative paths with $BASEPATH. BAD! cd C:\Games\Eve del \boot.ini del otherfile.txt ... GOOD! del C:\Games\Eve\\boot.ini del C:\Games\Eve\otherfile.txt ... Safe-guards for those typos were put into realpath libraries long ago. Use them. -- [17:47] <Mephysto> its dead, jim
Lazarann Ideal Machine	Posted - 2007.12.06 08:17:00 - [116] Considering the patch was ready 4 hours early and everything ran so smoothly, why's anyone surprised?
More Tono Gallente Ninmu Seijaku Legionnaire Services Ltd.	Posted - 2007.12.06 08:18:00 - [117] I'm a 51 yr old truck driver. Wish i knew what all this geekspeak meant. Crap
speedo	Posted - 2007.12.06 08:18:00 - [118] I wonder if this will work... Open your orginal boot.ini b4 patch save as boot.ini.bak or just copy the contents to clipboard. Download the premium content, update then either restore the original boot.ini, or open the original boot.ini, delte the contents, paste your copied version and save. Would that resolve the issue? or is it to simple?
Yokan Daifuku Gallente The Flaming Sideburn's Hedonistic Imperative	Posted - 2007.12.06 08:18:00 - [119] Edited by: Yokan Daifuku on 06/12/2007 08:19:07 Originally by: Abbala Brutori ...CCP. I hate you. I don't care if this is contructive or not. I have my Final paper due tomorrow. and guess what. MY computer restarted. and Now I can't get a number of very important file that I have to have in the next few days. I can only pray. that my professors have compassion on me. Because if not. YOu have just successfully caused me to Fail my English class. Thank you so very much. Use "fixboot" command (no quotes) with a windows recovery CD. Or boot in linux with a live CD that supports NTFS. ---- Yo-con Die-foo-koo
Kittamaru Gallente Ceptacemia Fallout Project	Posted - 2007.12.06 08:19:00 - [120] Originally by: CCP Lingorm Kittamaru < That may be for you but I have now reproduced this on 2 Windows XP SP2 machines. Please see my post as there may be other reasons you wher enot effected. This issue CAN AND DOES effect Windows XP SP2. I only have a C: drive I am running Windows XP Pro SP2 I installed from the patch upgrade I meet all the criteria... why is my PC acting special?

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