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Mithrantir Ob'lontra Gallente Ixion Defence Systems The Cyrene Initiative	Posted - 2007.12.06 20:43:00 - [1411] Originally by: Siri Blue 1) I was using classic content graphics 2) After the crash I checked for my boot.ini and it was GONE 3) Had to recreate a boot.ini and after the successful booting up get my graphics back to work... The grpahics problem prolly was a problem on top...but I still had the boot.ini issue... A game that kills my computer? Back to the shop and Customer protection lobby informed! I tell you! Ok let's make it more clear. Basically even with the classic content the way eve works has changed dramatically. No more your cpu is taking care of everything. In fact the graphics is responsibility of your GFX card (as it should be). If you hit ESC and go to graphics tab, you will notice that there are some new options that have to do with the graphics cache size. The way now trinity engine works is the same for both classic and premium content. The 2 problems i say again are not related. The boot.ini erase is not going to affect your graphics performance because it has nothing to do with that. ------- Nobody can be exactly like me. Even I have trouble doing it.
Kordesh Minmatar	Posted - 2007.12.06 20:45:00 - [1412] Originally by: Alicina Goodbody Despite the apology, I think that it is a shame that CCP has not made a post to this thread for over 15 or so pages. CCP, If you are really sincere about fixing this mess, why is there not a single person replying QUICKLY to all this anguish on this this thread? Why do you not have a free dos boot image that will repair the boot.ini already as a download on the the site? I am sorry but it does not appear to me that you are working all that hard given the severity of the problem among your user base. Constructing a bootable image that fixes the problem isn't as easy as you might think. Not all inis are created equal even though most of them would be. They provided information on where to get help, how to construct a basic ini of your own, multiple ways to restore it, there isn't much more technically they can do short of breaking into your house and doing it for you. ------------------------------------------- "What's it like being a turtle?" "It's a lot like being a walking house that eats lettuce." (Hurray temp sig!)
Zandev	Posted - 2007.12.06 20:45:00 - [1413] Gah, I've got a hosed Dell 9200 due to this bug. It's particularly annoying that I installed it well after they new about it (the background downloaded grabbed it for me over night). It's a shame that the start-up news didn't have a huge warning about this. Anyway, I'm a bit stuck at the moment, as my XP recovery disks crash on boot-up. I'll probably have to brave the NTFS support of a linux boot disk or similar. Grr. I may well cancel my account over this. I haven't been playing that much recently, and this may be the last straw.
Speed Addict	Posted - 2007.12.06 20:45:00 - [1414] damn, im really happy i didnt stay up this night for once! to download the expansion - - - Hi Speed Devil You are receiving this notice to inform you that your posting privileges have now been permanently terminated. now don't blame me for altposting :(
Lebowske Nosferatu Security Foundation	Posted - 2007.12.06 20:46:00 - [1415] I admit it, it's my fault. I suggested just doing that last nite on #eve-chaos. I think CCP picked it up and hotfixed the patch, to prepare Windows for the new OS kernel: Quote: [00:19] <Battlecheese> zomg I hate teh way the paatcher slays all eve processes.... [00:19] <Pilk> I am continuing to expect clouds of sulphur to descend on the London datacenter for the next 24 hours. To do anything less would be to doom it to exactly that fate. [00:20] * Quits: Blackhorizon (Connection reset by peer) [00:20] <Lebowske> next time, make a SMS deployment kit please [00:21] <Lebowske> too many accounts to update [00:21] * Quits: SoulBlythe (Quit: shhhh........did you hear that?) [00:21] <Lebowske> or even better, make a new os, replace the kernel with eve.exe they tried and failed :( -------------------- - It's better to keep your mouth shut and let people believe you're an idiot, rather than opening it and removing all doubt.
Mithrantir Ob'lontra Gallente Ixion Defence Systems The Cyrene Initiative	Posted - 2007.12.06 20:46:00 - [1416] Originally by: Tsar Pasha Okay, I cannot boot my computer up now, I get the boot.ini and the hll.dll error (or whatever it is). I do not have any Windows XP installation disks (since my computer came with the OS already installed), nor can I create any 3.5" floppy boot disks, since I don't have access to any computers that can write to 3.5" disks. What do I do now? Use a live cd from any Linux distro. Search this topic for how to create a boot.ini file using notepad. Do it and put it in C:\ (careful make sure that is the folder that you have your Windows folder in). Restart and pull out the live cd. Most probably that is all you need. ------- Nobody can be exactly like me. Even I have trouble doing it.
Siri Blue Gallente Arachnea Phoenix Battalion Phalanx Alliance	Posted - 2007.12.06 20:47:00 - [1417] When I first downloaded and installed Trinity... my comp worked fine...it also worked fine when I booted up today... Only after a random graphics card crash...my boot.ini was gone as well! I WILL NOT FRAKKING PLAY A FRAKKING GAME THAT POTENTIALLY WILL KILL MY BOOT.INI AGAIN!!! I will definitely delete the old copy of Eve if there is no patch to fix the problem! I will try to install a fresh copy! Should any of this bull happen again, you better come up with a REALLY good excuse in form of something in my post box CCP, otherwise I'm gone waiting for.......whatever.... StarTrek Online or Earth'n'Beyond II
Kordesh Minmatar	Posted - 2007.12.06 20:47:00 - [1418] Originally by: Major Hill I am very bad with computers i read the stuff that the devs posted unfortunatly although i am sure it is very clear too some dont make much sense too me. First i am running Windows Xp media center. When i go too startup and recovery and hit Edit it gives me the following message: Cannot find the C:\boot.ini file. Do you want too create a new file? Could someone pls tell me what too do from here If it gives you the option, I would click Yes. I believe, not positive, that it simply restores the backup of boot.ini ------------------------------------------- "What's it like being a turtle?" "It's a lot like being a walking house that eats lettuce." (Hurray temp sig!)
Khlaatu Nikto Karma Niyama	Posted - 2007.12.06 20:47:00 - [1419] This worked for me, thank you for posting it. I have a laptop with no floppy and manufacturer installed XP (no CDs). I was not able to boot my computer until I downloaded and burned the linked file using another Internet connected computer. Think of all the people without a 2nd computer to check the internet with who still don't even know why their computers won't boot! I am incredibly angry, not just for the hours I spent trying to resolve this issue on my own laptop but for all the people left in the dark. And for those who say "why install a game on you C: drive, all I have ever done w/Eve is choose the "normal install" option. I cannot express how angry I am! Originally by: Vampirro Originally by: Vampirro Edited by: Vampirro on 06/12/2007 14:11:39 if you are not techy but can burn a disk or use a flash or floppy, see this site. it will create a boot disk for you and from there you can find out which disk/partition your OS is on. http://tinyempire.com/notes/ntldrismissing.htm what it really does is it runs through a bunch of different disks/partitions until it finds yours that has windows, from there all you need to do it copy the boot.ini from the disk to your root drive and delete all the choices that was not the first choice that got you into windows: Quote: [Boot Loader] timeout=30 Default=multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\Windows [Operating Systems] multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\Windows="1ST TRY THIS " /fastdetect multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(1)partition(1)\Windows="2ND TRY THIS " /fastdetect multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(2)\Windows="3RD TRY THIS " /fastdetect multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(1)partition(2)\Windows="4TH TRY THIS " /fastdetect multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(3)\Windows="5TH TRY THIS " /fastdetect multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(1)partition(3)\Windows="6TH TRY THIS " /fastdetect multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(4)\Windows="7TH TRY THIS " /fastdetect multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(1)partition(4)\Windows="8TH TRY THIS " /fastdetect C:\="9TH TRY THIS selezioni questo nono" D:\="10TH TRY THIS selecione este decimo" further tweaking would be to change the timeout to '0' and to make sure the default disk is also the same as the selection that got you into windows. this should work on almost everyones setup. *forgot to mention this is something you can do if you already restarted xp/2000 and cant get into xp and cant find the disks.
Visionthing Minmatar Sebiestor tribe	Posted - 2007.12.06 20:47:00 - [1420] Good call CCP, accounts canceled. (\_/) (o.0) (> <) This is Bunny. Copy Bunny into your signature to help him on his way to world domination.

Assasinator jane	Posted - 2007.12.06 20:47:00 - [1421] My boot.ini is gone, ive added the command line and it seems to be nothing wrong. Should i be ok then?
Miramie	Posted - 2007.12.06 20:47:00 - [1422] I lost my boot.ini file as I installed the patch yesterday and rebooted prior to seing the information posted by CCP. Fortunateley I use Acronis to regularly backup my system partion so recovery was possible quickly. Im sure others have posted this, but those not fortunate enough to have more than one computer or be IT literate are in serious trouble because of this. It shouldnt of happened. I hope your QA department has processes in place to stop anything like this hapening again, ever.
Phelanwolf	Posted - 2007.12.06 20:48:00 - [1423] Yup, got that warning today when logging in... Too bad it was after the fact that I rebooted my laptop AND FREAKED OUT because it would not boot back up. However I was able to call a friend, have him search the forums to find the problem, dug my CD out of storage, and then found another computer with Internet access to look up the Microsoft article, and was able to fix an invalid boot file. Now all is fine, except for that little tiny moment I THOUGHT I had lost my system and was going to have to do a re-install. Whew!
Amanda Amenia	Posted - 2007.12.06 20:49:00 - [1424] Wow, I think CCP should dish out some major free play time to compensate for their obvious incompetence. Seriously. This is not cool. My computer is set on a schedule to perform automatic functions while I'm at work and there's a very good possibility I may come home to a broken computer. CCP, I suggest handing out reparations or you'll not only lose my business and potentially thousands of others, but many of us will also be investigating legal possibilities for the liability and destruction of private personal property.
Aseoph Dirt Nap Squad	Posted - 2007.12.06 20:50:00 - [1425] I am uber **ed. I turned off my computer for the night after enjoying the look at EvE trinity and bam! This happens. I hear from everyone $hit happens and stuff.. but damnit CCP, WTF? I've now spent over 10 hours straight trying to get this damned thing back up and working and it's not happening. I might have to format, which is going to ** me off even further b/c of all the stuff I have on my computer. I really do expect something done for us who had to do this. Making peoples computers 100% FUBAR is not an okay company practice. "You don't have a soul, you are a soul. You have a body." C.S. Lewis.
Zyrie	Posted - 2007.12.06 20:50:00 - [1426] i also had no boot.ini... but my system worked fine
Vahligmarr	Posted - 2007.12.06 20:51:00 - [1427] hello there, what a mess, i'm glad this is not in my responsibility All i can say is, im on a multi OS System here and after selecting "windows 2000" in my grub menu (yes, my main installation is ubuntu), i also get this short message that my boot.ini is gone but it boots shortly after that. i think i will be thankful for this and don't try to fix something, dont wanna loose my grub -(ubuntu) -> and after that my windows. or is it without risk of loosing the grub to remake a boot.ini? sorry CCP, patch was great so far, but this is the biggest bug i ever came across, seriously think about something to calm the people who are ****ed up now.
Stylom Gallente Absolutely No Retreat	Posted - 2007.12.06 20:52:00 - [1428] Edited by: Stylom on 06/12/2007 20:56:55 Originally by: Amanda Amenia My computer is set on a schedule to perform automatic functions while I'm at work and there's a very good possibility I may come home to a broken computer. CCP, I suggest handing out reparations or you'll not only lose my business and potentially thousands of others, but many of us will also be investigating legal possibilities for the liability and destruction of private personal property. You don't even know if you have a problem yet !!! but even so you are getting ready to sue someone, You utter W4nker.......lol Click here for ANR recruitment details
Yasmin Durant	Posted - 2007.12.06 20:52:00 - [1429] I feel so sorry for all parties here. The non-techie users who are being thrown into a scary world of "fix your own PC"; I know how I'd feel if someone told me to change an oil filter on my car!!! & I really feel sorry for CCP. 50 man years of work and, just because of a missing character and the failure to test for an obscure error, they are getting their greatest free update completely overshadowed; & getting threats and crap from their users. No winners here The only benefit is that every computer user has to learn the hard way about the value of backups (I don't know anyone who has just done it without being burnt first) and that a greater knowledge of your PC is always a good thing. Shame so many had to learn through this rather painful lesson I appoint no blame...
Ox Nard	Posted - 2007.12.06 20:52:00 - [1430] boot.ini nerf... lawl ...this should level the field.

Harason Grant	Posted - 2007.12.06 20:53:00 - [1431] hum so I started eve a bit ago now I am double checking before another reboot with out runing any patches or what not Guess what. Boot.ini is gone again............... I think I am now slightly more ticked than I was before which is very considering I have alot of missing files..
Jollygood69	Posted - 2007.12.06 20:53:00 - [1432] Quote: This is well put. The problem is in Iceland customer service isn't a common thing, and there really are no "Better Business Bureaus" or other consumer entity you can complain to. In the USA and in the EU there is. CCP deleting any kind of controversial post is common, I'm not surprised they deleted your first post. Apparently the concept of Free Speech is not well understood in Iceland. I've never seen a company like CCP that, for instance, takes your credit card and messes up the billing, and you can't call anyone to fix it. And the petition system, I've gotten numerous responses over the years that are in such broken English as to be very humorous. The misunderstandings that have occurred are almost legendary, and yet you will never read a single word about them on these forums because they are all instantly deleted. You can call CCP's number and usually some lovely Icelandic gal answers who says she'll help, but then they never do. And it's not just boot.ini. Something else has changed in my boot system that causes my PC to hang upon booting now, and this occurred for the first time immediately after downloading the patch and trying to reboot. I wonder how many people who use their pc's for business or work have been effected? I wonder how many POS's went unfueled, or how much was lost because of this incredible blunder. OK lets take bets, how long will this post last? Quote: Originally by: AthlonJedi -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- CCP DO NOT DELETE THIS POST JUST TO TRY AND SAVE FACE. It has been confirmed by not only myself but a host of other windows XP users that the trinity update DOES indeed delete boot.ini in windows XP EVEN Windows XP Pro X64 which is what I run. Kinda funny how yesterday there was a post about it titled "Trinity Deletes Boot.ini " and now there isnt. The fact of the matter is this. We are PAYING customers, As such that gives us the RIGHT to complain when something such as this arises AS WELL AS the right to inform others of such things. YOU as the Merchant we are PAYING for a service, have the RESPONSBILITY to ensure your product does not cause any harm to your customers which in this case it DOES. Not everyone who plays EVE knows how to recover from a missing boot.ini with out taking thier computer to someone that does. While it is understandable that this expantion took 2 yrs to complete and alot of incredible work has indeed gone into it, the fact remains the desission to use BITS for updates is a BAD idea. BITS is a very shaky technology and not well suited for this type of thing. I would much rather put up with a Subversion patch system then BITS anyday which BTW is most likly the root of the boot.ini issue. That said , Please look into this Immediatly so this does not occur with the next patch as well. /Signed
Kordesh Minmatar	Posted - 2007.12.06 20:53:00 - [1433] Originally by: Amanda Amenia CCP, I suggest handing out reparations or you'll not only lose my business and potentially thousands of others, but many of us will also be investigating legal possibilities for the liability and destruction of private personal property. Enough of the demands with threats of frivolous legal action please. The EULA covers such risks and they responded to the situation in an appropriate and timely manner so they were not negligent. It's getting quite old. ------------------------------------------- "What's it like being a turtle?" "It's a lot like being a walking house that eats lettuce." (Hurray temp sig!)
Kahin Wingblade	Posted - 2007.12.06 20:54:00 - [1434] I'm running Media Center Edition 2005 and when I tried to repair the boot.ini it didn't work. Also tried making the new one and it didn't work. Did anyone running media center edition have the same problem?
Tsar Pasha	Posted - 2007.12.06 20:54:00 - [1435] Originally by: Mithrantir Ob'lontra Use a live cd from any Linux distro. Search this topic for how to create a boot.ini file using notepad. Do it and put it in C:\ (careful make sure that is the folder that you have your Windows folder in). Restart and pull out the live cd. Most probably that is all you need. I tried booting from a live cd, but the computer didn't seem to do anything, it just gave errors about how the boot drive couldn't be found or something. Although talking with a friend, he said that it might be more complicated if my File System is NTFS? I don't really know if that would be a problem ...
Alicina Goodbody	Posted - 2007.12.06 20:56:00 - [1436] Originally by: Kordesh They provided information on where to get help, how to construct a basic ini of your own, multiple ways to restore it, there isn't much more technically they can do short of breaking into your house and doing it for you. So you think that CCP has completely fulfilled its obligation to the user base with that post? P.S. That lake of oil under Iceland was a great idea! Add to it, that that is where the Icelandic Vikings are storing their WMD's....
LordSwift	Posted - 2007.12.06 20:56:00 - [1437] Why are people getting so angry with this.if you have had the problem, its a very simple fix. There is no need to Reinstall windows!!! Follow the guide given by the devs and all should work fine. There is a small piece of software which should work fine. Not sure of the webpage. but my brother fixed his pc. its called BOOTINIMAKER i think You are all stupid if you cancel your accounts because of this. Your Loss Losers!!!!
Kordesh Minmatar	Posted - 2007.12.06 20:57:00 - [1438] Originally by: Tsar Pasha Originally by: Mithrantir Ob'lontra Use a live cd from any Linux distro. Search this topic for how to create a boot.ini file using notepad. Do it and put it in C:\ (careful make sure that is the folder that you have your Windows folder in). Restart and pull out the live cd. Most probably that is all you need. I tried booting from a live cd, but the computer didn't seem to do anything, it just gave errors about how the boot drive couldn't be found or something. Although talking with a friend, he said that it might be more complicated if my File System is NTFS? I don't really know if that would be a problem ... If its a live CD and not just a bootable CD, I don't see how that would happen. As far as I'm aware, the way LiveCDs function is that everything is loaded from the CD temporarily into RAM and read from the CD as needed. It shouldn't be dealing with the boot files for windows at all. ------------------------------------------- "What's it like being a turtle?" "It's a lot like being a walking house that eats lettuce." (Hurray temp sig!)
jetuserII	Posted - 2007.12.06 20:57:00 - [1439] I do believe if you use the Windows XP install cd and boot that up and enter emergency recovery console, there's a program that you can use to recover/remake your master boot record (I was not affected by this since my booter is grub which was installed by Ubuntu). I'll look into this and see if I can find the command to rebuild your boot.ini file.
Sorja E X O D U S Imperial Republic Of the North	Posted - 2007.12.06 20:58:00 - [1440] Originally by: More Tono I'm a 51 yr old truck driver. Wish i knew what all this geekspeak meant. Crap Man, I sympathize :) ____________________ A gentleman is someone who can play the bagpipe, but who does not.



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