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Nizomi
Caldari Technopolis Ventures
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Posted - 2007.12.09 15:30:00 -
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I hope this also includes the bug where alot of posses got their forcefields stripped down no matter if they had a password set or not
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Nyphur
Pillowsoft Total Comfort
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Posted - 2007.12.09 15:30:00 -
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What exactly were the issues that caused them to put the stop on? Was it the new feature (which incidentally is in the patch notes) about POS without passwords not having a force field any more or was it something about guns not shooting back? I've heard both from different sources.
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Mickey Knox
Caldari Interstellar eXodus R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2007.12.09 15:31:00 -
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here is what you could do, as nobody can really continue on with any campaigns or anything really.
Take a backup of tramnquility with player states ad everything, then make all outr characters uber, all items 1isk and declare armageddon zone for the entire universe. once u got it figured out and the new Q&A department has gotten a handle on things you roll back to the backup and continue on.
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Spoon Thumb
Paladin Imperium
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Posted - 2007.12.09 15:32:00 -
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Originally by: Splagada could you lock down fuel burn while this is in effect?
its pretty awesome quality&testers you got there lol
Moon mining / reacting seems to be unaffected, so this would adversely favour ppl using their POS to do that
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Snakester
Caldari Blood and Money Sev3rance
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Posted - 2007.12.09 15:32:00 -
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Originally by: Vardemis Boo Hoo Hoo
If thats the case can we get stations removed please. [url=www.sev3rance.com/kb/?a=pilot_detail&plt_id=22] [/url] |
L0max
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Posted - 2007.12.09 15:33:00 -
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Originally by: Meeko Gloom Dear Players Due to current issues with Player Owned Structures in general and in particular the pwnage being dealt to our pets, BOB, we are now forbidding all warfare against or with them.
Wow narrow minded, much ?
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Ephemeral Waves
The Nine Gates
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Posted - 2007.12.09 15:34:00 -
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Originally by: NATMav What does CCP plan to do about cap ships logged off in broken cyno-jammed systems for when they start working again?
QFT
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Admiral Nova
Strike Team Nova
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Posted - 2007.12.09 15:34:00 -
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Originally by: Spoon Thumb
At least now we know it isn't a design feature.
And it is the player base's fault for no one finding this out on sisi. How many ppl own POS?
And tbh how many ppl are going to bother checking their POS on sisi or even refuelling them when there are no changes to them from previous patch
When Sisi is mirrored all POS are removed, also, gaining sov takes just as long on the test server as on TQ, and as far as I'm aware the last mirror + changes that cause this, were not left on the test server long enough before Trinity was released, so no one could have tested it. It's simply not good enough to release this sort of thing without getting people to test it. And because it takes 5 weeks for sov 3 on sisi as well, you had better be telling people to make sure they test it.. AND waiting 5 weeks before releasing a patch post-mirror.
There needs to be a way to test this quicker on Sisi, or no one will test it if they're not being paid to, and obviously not enough are.
Also, we all make mistakes, but the length of time it takes CCP to admit them seems to be unreasonably long. Lots of POS's were destroyed but I bet it took some large alliance to all petition about what was clearly an exploit before action was taken. For some GMs to have ruled clear exploits as valid raises eyebrows indeed.
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Admiral Nova
Strike Team Nova
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Posted - 2007.12.09 15:36:00 -
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Originally by: Spoon Thumb
Originally by: Splagada could you lock down fuel burn while this is in effect?
its pretty awesome quality&testers you got there lol
Moon mining / reacting seems to be unaffected, so this would adversely favour ppl using their POS to do that
Obviously the same lockdown would stop that (pos's wouldn't cycle) of course then prices would skyrocked of stockpiles of the stuff needed for the new ships.
Anyway, any POS with an online cynojammer / cyno generator is currently 'disabled' for moon mining. 2.5 days I've been waiting on a petition for that. And I can't turn them off either.
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Dragon Greg
Amarr IVC Consortium Imperial Republic Of the North
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Posted - 2007.12.09 15:37:00 -
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Originally by: Spoon Thumb
Originally by: Splagada could you lock down fuel burn while this is in effect?
its pretty awesome quality&testers you got there lol
Moon mining / reacting seems to be unaffected, so this would adversely favour ppl using their POS to do that
Moon mining is just as affected, with bugged modules, arrays emptying themselves, silos unanchoring, etc.
Cheers
Dragon Greg |
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Kurt Armstrong
Rionnag Alba Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2007.12.09 15:39:00 -
[71]
Well thats bloody brilliant isn't it.
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Bacon Eater
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Posted - 2007.12.09 15:40:00 -
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Originally by: Splagada
its pretty awesome quality&testers you got there lol
You can't blame them, they were too busy playing in the FFA areas with officer fitted nightmares to test such a small issue.
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Edmund Khan
Destructive Influence Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.12.09 15:41:00 -
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Enjoy EVE as it should be, without POS warfare.
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Spoon Thumb
Paladin Imperium
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Posted - 2007.12.09 15:41:00 -
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Edited by: Spoon Thumb on 09/12/2007 15:43:45 So is this the list of stuff that is broken with POS:
Guns won't fire back Problems with controlling POS guns Cyno Damps don't work Jump bridge modules offline every DT Re-Onlined JB's only work for corp who own the towers, not alliance nor anyone else who may have standings to use them (as was possible before)
or is there anyhting more to add
(p.s: Please make your XSLT thingie parse nested [*.][/*.] blocks?)
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ddr800
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Posted - 2007.12.09 15:41:00 -
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Quote: Merc corp sieges tower in high-sec/low-sec. Tower is due to come out of reinforced soon. Attacking corp cannot attack it or they will get banned. Defending corp is free to take down the mods and repp it.
So what will YOU do then CCP ?
Please Refuse to listen to authority take the pos down and then watch a dm put it back up and your corp gets banned. Those really are your options. I hope you do take it down one less greedy merc corp. in eve hell verse is a good thing. The fact you would stand up to the gms and not listen to them tells me you are a problem for eve and should move on.
When the owners of the game have a problem we should heed there call, how would you like it if I owned your pos illegally? Would you be cool if I took it down or would you cry foul like a 2 year old exactly put yourself in the other guyÆs shoes, because everyone in eve eventually is the center of the joke even you will be one day.
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Zigg Omelo
eXceed Inc.
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Posted - 2007.12.09 15:42:00 -
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petition to make this change permanent!!!
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Admiral Nova
Strike Team Nova
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Posted - 2007.12.09 15:42:00 -
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Originally by: Spoon Thumb or is there anyhting more to add
Any tower with a sov module online cannot use any moon miners / reactors / silos etc.
Some were saying they were not going into reinforced or sending mails when attacked.
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NATMav
F.R.E.E. Explorer Atrum Tempestas Foedus
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Posted - 2007.12.09 15:43:00 -
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The best part is the countless hours players will have to spend offlining/online mods to fix their POSes even after its "fixed" by CCP.
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MAX MEXX
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Posted - 2007.12.09 15:43:00 -
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Towers settup BEFORE the patch is missin a forcefield if they dont had a PW sett. The Patch said "A NEWpos wil not have a forcefiled before you enter a pw"
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Pesadel0
Vagabundos
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Posted - 2007.12.09 15:44:00 -
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Originally by: Fantome Thx, at least now every body know it.
Cheer.
Yeah, i mean 0 rof on dreads when shooting a POS is hard to tell .
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John McCreedy
Caldari Eve Defence Force Insurgency
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Posted - 2007.12.09 15:44:00 -
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Finally a bug everyone likes! No POS Seiges allowed. I don't suppose you fancy forgetting to fix this one do you?
Make a Difference
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Dragon Greg
Amarr IVC Consortium Imperial Republic Of the North
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Posted - 2007.12.09 15:44:00 -
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Originally by: Spoon Thumb So is this the list of stuff that is broken with POS:
Guns won't fire back Problems with controlling POS guns Sovriegnty Requiring Modules doen't work: Cyno Damps don't work Jump bridge modules offline every DT Re-Onlined JB's only work for corp who own the towers, not alliance nor anyone else who may have standings to use them (as was possible before)
or is there anyhting more to add
Password resets Arrays emptying after they offline themselves Silo's not accepting input Refinery structures swallowing input
Cheers
Dragon Greg |
Nyphur
Pillowsoft Total Comfort
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Posted - 2007.12.09 15:45:00 -
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Originally by: Spoon Thumb So is this the list of stuff that is broken with POS:
Guns won't fire back Problems with controlling POS guns Sovriegnty Requiring Modules doen't work: Cyno Damps don't work Jump bridge modules offline every DT Re-Onlined JB's only work for corp who own the towers, not alliance nor anyone else who may have standings to use them (as was possible before)
or is there anyhting more to add
- Some reactor/silo links just turned off for no reason. - POS with no password have no shield bubble. This is a feature but clearly the devs didn't consider that people could lock POS modules of online POS during wars. - Mobile labs apparently have about as much HP as a cargo container and can be suicide ganked with a frig.
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Jacque Custeau
Knights of the Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2007.12.09 15:45:00 -
[84]
I apologize if this is a departure from the usual "CCP=fail" type post, but I have a simple question. Can I anchor additional defense structures at existing non-sov POS's or is this temporarily prohibited as well? -------------------
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Dragon Greg
Amarr IVC Consortium Imperial Republic Of the North
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Posted - 2007.12.09 15:45:00 -
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Originally by: Admiral Nova
Originally by: Spoon Thumb or is there anyhting more to add
Any tower with a sov module online cannot use any moon miners / reactors / silos etc.
Some were saying they were not going into reinforced or sending mails when attacked.
You don't need a tower with "special" structures for that to happen (bridges, jammers, etc), it happens for towers without all that stuff as well, it's extremely random.
Cheers
Dragon Greg |
Admiral Nova
Strike Team Nova
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Posted - 2007.12.09 15:47:00 -
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Originally by: Nyphur - POS with no password have no shield bubble. This is a feature but clearly the devs didn't consider that people could lock POS modules of online POS during wars.
This has always been the case (if you didn't set a password it said (inactive), and I have flown into many-a hostile POS and shot stuff etc for months, when they didn't have it set. Now though, the display bug is fixed, and you can actually see that they don't have a shield. Good when setting up a POS (no more false comfort), bad in that some pos's that have been unprotected for a while are now visibly so.
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Admiral Nova
Strike Team Nova
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Posted - 2007.12.09 15:49:00 -
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Originally by: Dragon Greg You don't need a tower with "special" structures for that to happen (bridges, jammers, etc), it happens for towers without all that stuff as well, it's extremely random.
Wierd, I'm running 20 ish towers, two have sov structures, those two have bridges (offline and were pre-patch), and one has a cyno generator. Of them, the only one that is broken for moon mining, is the one that had the cyno generator array online (and it cannot be turned off).
The others all still work fine (for mining/reacting).
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Nyphur
Pillowsoft Total Comfort
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Posted - 2007.12.09 15:49:00 -
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Originally by: Admiral Nova
Originally by: Nyphur - POS with no password have no shield bubble. This is a feature but clearly the devs didn't consider that people could lock POS modules of online POS during wars.
This has always been the case (if you didn't set a password it said (inactive), and I have flown into many-a hostile POS and shot stuff etc for months, when they didn't have it set. Now though, the display bug is fixed, and you can actually see that they don't have a shield. Good when setting up a POS (no more false comfort), bad in that some pos's that have been unprotected for a while are now visibly so.
That's technically incorrect. The shield at least partially worked pre-patch without a password. With no password, someone could fly inside your shield and steal ships and stuff inside there but they couldn't attack POS mods because the field still prevented locking. Smartbombs also didn't work (and hopefully still don't) because the control tower absorbs the damage while online or the modules are immune to smartbombs or soemthing.
Right now, people can actually lock and shoot the modules while pre-patch this was not possible.
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princess katie
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Posted - 2007.12.09 15:50:00 -
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I told you there would be more to follow in the next few days .
Wait untill the news really hits about those phone numbers to the support people.
and theres still no new Marauders or Black ops or jump freighters or covert potals! BUT hey theres a great Market on POS wrecks.
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elohllird
Destructive Influence Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.12.09 15:57:00 -
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Originally by: Meeko Gloom Dear Players Due to current issues with Player Owned Structures in general and in particular the pwnage being dealt to our pets, BOB, we are now forbidding all warfare against or with them.
haha
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