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ArmyOfMe Exotic Dancers Club Nocturnal Legion	Posted - 2007.12.09 16:44:00 - [121] this should have been stated as soon as the bug was noticed imo. way to slow reaction
Traxio Nacho Sharks With Frickin' Laser Beams Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2007.12.09 16:46:00 - [122] Originally by: John McCreedy Sorry if this has been asked for and/or given but I need clarification. Is this only POS Seiging with a Dread or does it extend to BS as well? I heard the problem was due to Dreads so if you could clarify this, that'd be great. Thanks. Quote: This means that no attacks are allowed on starbase control towers, their attached structures or outposts. I think that answers that, its not just that some dreads get bugged but the fact POS's are bugged as well IE not firing at people and not allowing people to control guns without bugging. Also I believe fred0 of CEI posted on SHC that a GM had confirmed any assaults on POS be it BS/dread/frigs was not allowed.
gordon cain Minmatar x13	Posted - 2007.12.09 16:54:00 - [123] Originally by: HotSeat So what, Bob wanted time off to shop for the holidays? Attacking there POS's is the only way to get them to fight Hope fix is ASAP Grimmi Are you stupid or something. POS warfare is broken... Not only BoB's but everyones. Gordon Never argue with idiots, they will just drag you down to their level, and beat you with experience.
Fred0 Cutting Edge Incorporated RAZOR Alliance	Posted - 2007.12.09 16:56:00 - [124] Edited by: Fred0 on 09/12/2007 16:56:47 Edited by: Fred0 on 09/12/2007 16:56:30 Originally by: John McCreedy Sorry if this has been asked for and/or given but I need clarification. Is this only POS Seiging with a Dread or does it extend to BS as well? I heard the problem was due to Dreads so if you could clarify this, that'd be great. Thanks. It's all ships attacking a pos according to GM Nova. and then Grimmi is talking about pos warfare as a whole which could mean anything really. My guess is they are playing catch up trying to figure it out themselves what should be doable and not doable. We don't know if planting pos is allowed. Hiding from an attacking force inside pos ff?. Jumping in capitals to a system that should be cynojammed etc. CCP should make a long list but they are probably reluctant due to their own incompetence and fear of loopholes so they throw out blanket statements that only confuse us. --- "Cutting Edge 4 Life"
Wrayeth Shiva Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2007.12.09 16:59:00 - [125] On the plus side, this means you don't have to deal with POS warfare for a while. This is a good thing because POS warfare sucks. -Wrayeth n00b Extraordinaire "Look, pa! I just contributed absolutely nothing to this thread!"
Admiral Nova Strike Team Nova	Posted - 2007.12.09 17:00:00 - [126] Originally by: Fred0 We don't know if planting pos is allowed. Hiding from an attacking force inside pos ff?. Jumping in capitals to a system that should be cynojammed etc. Quote: This also means that no control towers may be set up where a different alliance holds sovereignty
Sean Dillon Caldari Caldari Provisions	Posted - 2007.12.09 17:05:00 - [127] I hope they never fix it, would make this game so much bettter.
Admiral Nova Strike Team Nova	Posted - 2007.12.09 17:05:00 - [128] It would only make sense that no capital ships can enter systems with cyno jammers active, online, but non-functional.. That's textbook exploit. Though on the other hand, the alliances that own those should not be able to either. (although typically they'd use the now non-functional bridges :o )
Lucky 8 Minmatar Pator Tech School	Posted - 2007.12.09 17:06:00 - [129] It's a real shame that billions and billions have already been lost with no accountability or recompense to those that have lost.. and no punishment to those that have gained. -- Originally by: Nicho Void This thread is like a chum slick for forum alt trolls.
Fred0 Cutting Edge Incorporated RAZOR Alliance	Posted - 2007.12.09 17:07:00 - [130] Originally by: Admiral Nova Originally by: Fred0 We don't know if planting pos is allowed. Hiding from an attacking force inside pos ff?. Jumping in capitals to a system that should be cynojammed etc. Quote: This also means that no control towers may be set up where a different alliance holds sovereignty Thanks. One Question answered. 50 more specific cases to go :D --- "Cutting Edge 4 Life"
MadDoc Brown	Posted - 2007.12.09 17:12:00 - [131] Originally by: GM Grimmi EDIT: Clarification: Abusing the current POS warfare mechanics after the posting of the news item is considered an exploit. Those that participated in POS warfare prior to the news item will have nothing to fear. GM Posts in this thread: Linkage I hope this doesnt apply to those who still abused broken mechanicals that were publically discussed on the forums since the 6th December.
Ciphero Murder-Death-Kill	Posted - 2007.12.09 17:12:00 - [132] That's pretty incredible. Pretty much the entire basis of 0.0 (i.e. space-claiming) just switched off. Astounding.
WrathOfOprah Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.12.09 17:16:00 - [133] Originally by: Ciphero That's pretty incredible. Pretty much the entire basis of 0.0 (i.e. space-claiming) just switched off. Astounding. Pretty much. Jump bridges are whacked. Boot.ini. Now no pos warfare. I don't know how we AREN'T getting a free month for this crap.
Kjetilen	Posted - 2007.12.09 17:20:00 - [134] Edited by: Kjetilen on 09/12/2007 17:20:15 Originally by: WrathOfOprah Originally by: Ciphero That's pretty incredible. Pretty much the entire basis of 0.0 (i.e. space-claiming) just switched off. Astounding. Pretty much. Jump bridges are whacked. Boot.ini. Now no pos warfare. I don't know how we AREN'T getting a free month for this crap. beta versions of games shuld be free
Admiral Nova Strike Team Nova	Posted - 2007.12.09 17:20:00 - [135] Originally by: Ciphero That's pretty incredible. Pretty much the entire basis of 0.0 (i.e. space-claiming) just switched off. Astounding. The patch switched them off, this just slows its decline to from off to distant memory. Hopefully this gets fixed in short order and we can return to normal levels of pew pew. It really needed to be banned from Dec 6th until they fixed it, which would have hopefully have been already if it was acknowledged as quickly as it should have been. I mean, working dec 5th, not dec 6th.. hint: it was related to something that changed ! In the future I think new content and balancing changes etc need to be seperate QA tested patches. I think all the shiny toys distracted from the real testing that needed to be done.
Bur Banhammer	Posted - 2007.12.09 17:22:00 - [136] So what I don't understand is that if you have a war dec on, and you are attacking a POS "As of last night", now they have time to reinforce everything you destroyed, regain shields, and fix the POS armor. Or does this not include war dec's? I don't think ALL of the POS attacks are and exploit.
Admiral Nova Strike Team Nova	Posted - 2007.12.09 17:22:00 - [137] I don't want free game time, I wan't the game back ASAP. Who cares about a few bucks, I care about the game working at least half as well as it did a week ago. And I DON'T want to see this happen again. Halve the new features and balancing, get the testing right. I'd trade every new feature for what we had a week ago in an instant.
Admiral Nova Strike Team Nova	Posted - 2007.12.09 17:24:00 - [138] Originally by: Bur Banhammer So what I don't understand is that if you have a war dec on, and you are attacking a POS "As of last night", now they have time to reinforce everything you destroyed, regain shields, and fix the POS armor. Or does this not include war dec's? I don't think ALL of the POS attacks are and exploit. It's all POS's, because if they had their POS's working right, they might have not had it go into reinforced in the first place... It might have been saved etc. It means that when POS's were buggy you should have saved your efforts and not shot any at all, now you have the pay the price just as the many that lost POS's due to bugs have to. Yep, attackers and defenders are equally annoyed that it's taken days to announce this.
MisEllaneous Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.12.09 17:28:00 - [139] Originally by: HotSeat So what, Bob wanted time off to shop for the holidays? Attacking there POS's is the only way to get them to fight Hope fix is ASAP Grimmi How's that no smacking policy in BOS working out?
Metal Dude Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.12.09 17:38:00 - [140] Originally by: HotSeat So what, Bob wanted time off to shop for the holidays? Attacking there POS's is the only way to get them to fight Hope fix is ASAP Grimmi Oh yes, because PL siege so many POSes in BoB space you would know. And your cloaked fitted nano ships sure are set up for fights, so thatÆs why you get so many. The truth will set you free
Aliosis II Black Avatar	Posted - 2007.12.09 17:40:00 - [141] Edited by: Aliosis II on 09/12/2007 17:41:26 Originally by: Nyphur Reinforced timers are ticking, people can repair their POS without the attackers being able to stop them This isnt 100% true, there is nothing saying you can sit outside a POS shield and shoot the reppers... Your just not allowed to shoot the POS or its modules, players are fine.. Your still screwed with the passive recharge tho
Dilligaf Really	Posted - 2007.12.09 17:41:00 - [142] How is 0.0 territory gain gonna work now? are all terratories static till they fix this? that sucks cause the longer this goes on the more like WoW in space this is gonna be....
Jita TradeAlt	Posted - 2007.12.09 17:41:00 - [143] Originally by: Metal Dude Originally by: HotSeat So what, Bob wanted time off to shop for the holidays? Attacking there POS's is the only way to get them to fight Hope fix is ASAP Grimmi Oh yes, because PL siege so many POSes in BoB space you would know. From reading the bob forums I know people are pretty tightlipped about failures, but lets just say pandemic has killed more bob pos in delve than bob has killed coalition POS in the south the last six months(yes, that number is above 0, really. I think.). Even if it was mostly moon mining pos.
Oam Mkoll Caldari HUSARIA Curatores Veritatis Alliance	Posted - 2007.12.09 17:45:00 - [144] Edited by: Oam Mkoll on 09/12/2007 17:47:31 CCP should ban(g) itself on the head with a heavy object. If they aren't going to punish entire alliances and corps that started looting and destroying hostile POSes after the patch it'll be the worst injustice to players in an MMO ever. SWG Jedi patch included. Whoever failed to issue this exploit announcement immediately after the patch, is guilty of a much worse oversight than a person that brought the Bootini comet upon us. edit: BTW people in this thread who are already trying to find ways to circumvent this rule disgust me. It should be obvious to anyone but a complete baboon that shooting ships that should be in a POS shield but aren't because it switched off, are exploiting the bugs as well. --- I am violence boat
SiJira	Posted - 2007.12.09 17:52:00 - [145] Originally by: Sean Dillon I hope they never fix it, would make this game so much bettter. knockout ____ __ ________ _sig below_ devs and gms cant modify my sig if they tried! _lies above_ CCP Morpheus was here Morpheus Fails. You need colors!! -Kaemonn [yellow]Kaem
Nyphur Pillowsoft Total Comfort	Posted - 2007.12.09 17:54:00 - [146] Originally by: Aliosis II Edited by: Aliosis II on 09/12/2007 17:41:26 Originally by: Nyphur Reinforced timers are ticking, people can repair their POS without the attackers being able to stop them This isnt 100% true, there is nothing saying you can sit outside a POS shield and shoot the reppers... Your just not allowed to shoot the POS or its modules, players are fine.. Your still screwed with the passive recharge tho Yes, but who's going to put enough of a force outside a POS to kill carriers and ospreys repairing the shield for several days straight until they're allowed to shoot the tower again? It's not feasible. Eve-Tanking.com - We're sorry, something happened.
Dilligaf Really	Posted - 2007.12.09 17:56:00 - [147] Originally by: SiJira Originally by: Sean Dillon I hope they never fix it, would make this game so much bettter. knockout yeah it sucked but they need to come up with a new way then that will allow ppl to capture space otherwise the map stagnates, and as i said before... wow in space... Yeah theres still a buncha stuff thats different even if the map doesnt change, but, I imagine the 0.0 ppl like gaining territory and not seeing it all stuck perminantly like it is because someone effed it all up.
hmmmmmmmm Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.12.09 17:57:00 - [148] Originally by: HotSeat So what, Bob wanted time off to shop for the holidays? Attacking there POS's is the only way to get them to fight Hope fix is ASAP Grimmi Patetic Legion
Mr Jay Pre-nerfed Tactics SOUL CARTEL	Posted - 2007.12.09 18:02:00 - [149] Originally by: hmmmmmmmm Originally by: HotSeat So what, Bob wanted time off to shop for the holidays? Attacking there POS's is the only way to get them to fight Hope fix is ASAP Grimmi Patetic Legion WTS: Letter 'H'. ----- Sig wanted, apply within.
Duke Grail DarkStar 1 GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.12.09 18:04:00 - [150] Originally by: ccp Hay guyz we borked teh game and are gonna tak a wile to fix it plx dont do anything while you wait for us tho cuz tat wud be bad Sometimes i wonder why i still play this game. Sig removed, lacks Eve-related content. If you would like further details please mail [email protected] - Cortes

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