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Smacktalking Alt
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Posted - 2007.12.24 15:59:00 -
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Originally by: Sopha Serpentia Your gonna get wardecced
It's a good thing you're here to point out the unforeseen consequences of this operation. 
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Pitt Bull
Caldari Naval Reserve
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Posted - 2007.12.24 16:33:00 -
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Originally by: Smacktalking Alt
Originally by: Sopha Serpentia Your gonna get wardecced
It's a good thing you're here to point out the unforeseen consequences of this operation. 
LOL Sopha. You just don't "get" iMune Alliance, do you?
Bloody brilliant!
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Zirconium Blade
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Posted - 2007.12.24 16:49:00 -
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Sounds like alot of fun.
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Jogvan
coracao ardente Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2007.12.24 18:52:00 -
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Edited by: Jogvan on 24/12/2007 18:52:26
Originally by: Ponderous Thunderstroke Brilliant idea. Excellent use of the game mechanics. Great plan. I approve a ton. In fact, I'm thinking of spinning off an alt corp to put my combat alt into, so I can shack up with you guys for some free empire pewpew.
Was thinking exactly the same 
Only problem I see with this is if corp A war decs B, and corp A really want them to suffer. If corp B then keeps dodging this war dec it should be petitionable imo. If corp A war decs B just for fun pew pew, then they should be happy if corp B joins this alliance.
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voogru
Gallente Massive Damage
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Posted - 2007.12.24 19:19:00 -
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This is probably an exploit.
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Vikarion
United Heavens
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Posted - 2007.12.24 19:31:00 -
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If I recall correctly, Nexa of TRAPS already checked out things like this...jumping corps/alliances is apparently NEVER an exploit.
Although I can see the point of those who are upset about iMune, I think that it's a pretty clever idea...although I personally think they should charge for it. Nothing should be free, right? 
Also, remember that there are two excellent ways to remedy your dissatisfaction with this situation:
1) Pod iMune members 2) Get really good at killing ships/pods in 24 hours.
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Nexa Necis
The Really Awesome Players
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Posted - 2007.12.24 19:58:00 -
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True, this is not likely an exploit, but I think just as all the carebears who whined about Privateers doing their 100+ war decs a week, you will have the war dec people complain this is too easy an out for someone.
It could possibly bring about a game change or nerf as some might call it. Just like the war dec fees got placed stunt the growing list of corps under Privateer's fire, there should be something to offset the carebear escape plan you're putting into place.
My idea was to put a 7 day limit on people who join/leave a corp/alliance. I mean, if we're paying to dec a corp for a week, they shouldn't be allowed to stay in that same corp and use the revolving door of the alliance to escape a war.
You might be setting a precedent, much like Privateers did.
Personally, I don't think your idea will do much for most of the people. If one of our targets joins/quits your alliance, we will redec them over and over and follow them from corp to corp for a good while.
Good luck with it though. It should make things a bit more interesting I am sure.
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Ivan Sable
The One Upsmanship Club iMune Empire
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Posted - 2007.12.24 20:50:00 -
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Originally by: Vikarion 2) Get really good at killing ships/pods in 24 hours.
LOL @ shoot faster.
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sandan321
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Posted - 2007.12.24 23:31:00 -
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I LIKE IT
SANDAN321 ;~}nullnull 
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Gajin Blaze
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Posted - 2007.12.24 23:36:00 -
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Originally by: Pitt Bull Edited by: Pitt Bull on 24/12/2007 16:37:32
Originally by: Smacktalking Alt
Originally by: Sopha Serpentia Your gonna get wardecced
i think you guys missing the point they are welcoming the wars of others, so why would they caree if they get war decced?......lol think about it for a minute you'll get what i am saying
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Ki An
Gallente Filiolus Of Bellum The Church.
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Posted - 2007.12.25 00:04:00 -
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Think it's a brilliant idea... for you guys anyway. I am a bit confused how this is helping the carebears though. Let's say corp A decs corp B. Corp B joins iMune. Corp A is now at war with iMune, as well as any and all carebear corps that join and leave iMune during the following week, at least for 24 hours. Corp B now leaves iMune, is at war with corp A for 24 hours. Corp A passes a new vote, meaning corp B will have a total of 24 hours without war. Now corp B is only left with the options they had before iMune, as joining the alliance again is pointless, at least for another week, provided corp A removes the wardec despite getting a bunch of carebear targets all over Empire.
tl;dr - This idea will get iMune a lot of free wardecs. Good for them. It won't help carebears tho.
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Dapanman1
Amarr Beets and Gravy Syndicate
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Posted - 2007.12.25 00:12:00 -
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I can verify that I'd does help the carebears. Carebear corp just got our war retracted by joining and instantly leaving iMune. Smells 'sploity, but I wont complain too much, we did get a 5b isk Vindi kill from them before they got rid of the dec. Should still make those carebears pay for it.  Beets, you're among friends. |

Ki An
Gallente Filiolus Of Bellum The Church.
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Posted - 2007.12.25 00:19:00 -
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Originally by: Dapanman1 I can verify that I'd does help the carebears. Carebear corp just got our war retracted by joining and instantly leaving iMune. Smells 'sploity, but I wont complain too much, we did get a 5b isk Vindi kill from them before they got rid of the dec. Should still make those carebears pay for it. 
Dec them again.
Look on the bright side. Now you get a free alliance war for a Christmas present.
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Dapanman1
Amarr Beets and Gravy Syndicate
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Posted - 2007.12.25 01:05:00 -
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We will definitly dec them again, its just more of an inconvience that an 'iMuneity.' (see what i did thar?)
As for the alliance war, its only 4 people  Beets, you're among friends. |

Wynona
Mesopotamia iMune Empire
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Posted - 2007.12.25 04:42:00 -
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War-removal applications in-queue and what time they go active are confidential information. In a moments notice, the tables can turn on our customers enemy. This whole idea of ours is very dynamic if you think about it, both sides of the coin have corporations in motion (in relation to the "fight" timer) But, no matter how you look at it, the timer is always in our customers favor.
5 wars on-deck, 3 active atm, things are starting to get warmed up here. I imagine once it gets a bit warmer, we'll be seeing some resident pvp'ers coming aboard.
Happy Holidays from iMune Empire  Click here for Free War Removal Service
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tai shang
Dominus Imperium
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Posted - 2007.12.26 08:42:00 -
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ok. how about THIS scenario:
Corp A wardecs Corp B. And C. And D. And so on. Just for the sake of wardecing and fighting. One of the others (either B, C, or D) gets tired of dealing with Corp A, and calls in Corp E, a merc corp, to teach them a lesson. Corp E wardecs Corp A, and absolutely pwns them on the first day, so badly in fact, that Corp E, a 12 man corp, has caused 6 of Corp A's (54 man corp) members to quit after the first day. More losses follow the next day. Corp E is doing the job it was hired to do, and doing it well. Corp A joins imune. Corp A quits imune. Corp E now has an entire alliance of targets to worry about, because a bunch of complete noobs have suddenly discovered that they want to mine, and not pew pew anymore.
Can anyone HONESTLY, HONEST TO GOD, tell me that this is not an exploit of the game mechanics?
Don't get me wrong. I see what you are trying to do here. But its like launching a nuke to destroy one little enemy tank, instead of using a bazooka.
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Detective McGarnacle
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Posted - 2007.12.26 15:46:00 -
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Sure, this may not be an exploit, but it reeks of nerf anyway. Privateers werent exploiting either after all.
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Zedrik Cayne
Gallente Session9 Rising Sun Alliance
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Posted - 2007.12.26 16:31:00 -
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Unfortunately this has a really easy nerf that would probably be trivial to implement. Do not allow a corp to join an alliance if it has been dec'd. It will probably be the nerf of choice unfortunately. I do rather enjoy this idea and would like to endorse the geniuses who came up with it as <homer simpson>SMRT</homer simpson> --
Remember: Carebears aren't people. They are giant flying piħatas.
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Ovek
Gallente Cosmic Fusion
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Posted - 2007.12.27 10:13:00 -
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tbh if people start joining leaving a lot, this is going to be a good way of getting loads of targets for free. Make a corp with an alt have corp mates join with a few alts, war dec corp, join alliance. Free targets, along with people joining and leaving, allowing at least 24 hours of vulnerability. In my opinion it's just another stupid way to avoid a war dec and it WILL NOT work like you would like it too.
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Pattern Clarc
Infinitus Odium The Church.
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Posted - 2007.12.27 13:17:00 -
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what happens if your alliance gets war deced? "Now follow this link to enlightenment" |

Oregon sinful
The Ankou The Reckoning.
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Posted - 2007.12.27 15:27:00 -
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Originally by: Pattern Clarc what happens if your alliance gets war deced?
UMMMM....
Didn't I ask that... on like... page 1?

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Kehmor
Caldari PAK
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Posted - 2007.12.27 16:15:00 -
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Originally by: Zedrik Cayne Unfortunately this has a really easy nerf that would probably be trivial to implement. Do not allow a corp to join an alliance if it has been dec'd. It will probably be the nerf of choice unfortunately. I do rather enjoy this idea and would like to endorse the geniuses who came up with it as <homer simpson>SMRT</homer simpson>
I doubt it as if they implemented that it would be exploited to hell and back. 1 man alt corps deccing big corps who are in between alliances and then ransoming them in exchange for dropping the dec. etc.
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Sslinger
Privateers Privateer Alliance
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Posted - 2007.12.27 18:03:00 -
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As most know, The suppossed nerf that was to hamper the mass war dec method has not worked as intended. Privateers continues to war dec alliances/corps a dozen at a time. Many of the large alliances are set on perma ban.
The success of Imune would be short lived as it will go up on the list of those targets...whats an extra 50 million when you continue to donate your loot to the cause..lol.
New applicants would hesitate to join an alliance that is already at war if thier purpose is to avoid war to start with.
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Zedrik Cayne
Gallente Session9 Rising Sun Alliance
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Posted - 2007.12.27 18:29:00 -
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Originally by: Sslinger
As most know, The suppossed nerf that was to hamper the mass war dec method has not worked as intended. Privateers continues to war dec alliances/corps a dozen at a time. Many of the large alliances are set on perma ban.
The success of Imune would be short lived as it will go up on the list of those targets...whats an extra 50 million when you continue to donate your loot to the cause..lol.
New applicants would hesitate to join an alliance that is already at war if thier purpose is to avoid war to start with.
I don't know, there would be something appealing about only having to dock for 24 hours instead of a week (or more) for a lot of empire corps without much PVP support. --
Remember: Carebears aren't people. They are giant flying piħatas.
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Wesley Baird
Murder-Death-Kill
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Posted - 2007.12.27 18:35:00 -
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Many of you seem to miss the brilliant point of this operation...which is not to help anyone avoid a war-dec its to give some pretty clever players lots of free targets of differing flavors....
I say bravo to the mains who's alts created iMune Empire for their entertainment purposes!! Great idea, hope you get hundreds of kills for the trouble...
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Cain Bloodlust
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Posted - 2007.12.27 19:25:00 -
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Originally by: Tzar'rim That's rather smart. Win-win for both parties, no more war for those who don't want it and free targets for those who do.
Excelent, and so very much in the spirit of EVE :)
EVE features non-consentual PVP, so no, this is not in the "spirit of EVE". Don't get me wrong, I still think this is clever and very cool.
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Iva Soreass
Personal Vendetta
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Posted - 2007.12.27 20:01:00 -
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Excellent stuff guys, bloody love it.
May just make a corp myself and join for free targets!
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Exlegion
Caldari New Light Hydra Alliance
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Posted - 2007.12.27 20:44:00 -
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Clever way of griefing the griefer. And even if it gets nerfed, it's not a bad idea to create an alliance for the sole purpose of increasing the war bill on griefing high sec corps.
Corp A war decs defenseless corp B for cheap giggles. Corp B joins Imune Empire to up the war cost. Cheap gigles is now expensive giggles.
Corp B would only need to remain low-key while Corp A drains its resources on the war. There wouldn't be much of a need to immediately drop the alliance.
Anyway, just thinking out loud. Good luck, Imune o/.
One of us equals many of us. Disrespect one of us, you'll see plenty of us. - Guru |

Karunel
Princeps Corp T e r c i o s
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Posted - 2007.12.27 21:38:00 -
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Brilliant, tbh. ____
Originally by: elbenito The problem with large fleet engagements is that the hamsters stop to watch.
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Duke Val'Doom
The Watchers Society
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Posted - 2007.12.27 22:23:00 -
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Originally by: Cain Bloodlust
EVE features non-consentual PVP, so no, this is not in the "spirit of EVE". Don't get me wrong, I still think this is clever and very cool.
This is another form of non-consentual PVP, you have to fight someone you didn't want to right? So I think it is in the spirit of EVE :-)
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