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The Hooch
Minmatar Privateers Privateer Alliance
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Posted - 2007.12.27 23:33:00 -
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and they say what we did was an exploit?
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The Hooch
Minmatar Privateers Privateer Alliance
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Posted - 2007.12.27 23:35:00 -
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Originally by: techzer0 Someone found a way to get mass war-decs like privateers? o.0
I'm raising my sec status temporarily anyhow... hmm 
Nope, we dec alliances, not corps. This does not effect us one little bit. Try again.
Concord punishes people, it does not protect them |

The Hooch
Minmatar Privateers Privateer Alliance
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Posted - 2007.12.27 23:37:00 -
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Originally by: Stakhanov I hope you double check who will be joining your alliance. If farmer corps ever take advantage of it...
Me thinks that I have a new war dec brewing here.
Concord punishes people, it does not protect them |

Calypso's Wrath
Caldari Black Watch Legionnaires
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Posted - 2007.12.27 23:46:00 -
[94]
How many active wars do you have atm?? are there lots of targets??
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Wynona
Mesopotamia iMune Empire
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Posted - 2007.12.28 00:04:00 -
[95]
Calypso, search iMune Empire in the other wars section of corp interface, the list is constantly changing.
Hey Hooch, I can see you're all excited about posting 'n stuff. So that sniffy "try again" comment... hows that relate to what you quoted?
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Flinx Evenstar
Minmatar Omniscient Order
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Posted - 2007.12.28 01:21:00 -
[96]
Originally by: Wynona Calypso, search iMune Empire in the other wars section of corp interface, the list is constantly changing.
Hey Hooch, I can see you're all excited about posting 'n stuff. So that sniffy "try again" comment... hows that relate to what you quoted?
Still waiting for that link to ANY ship you have killed under the alliance Imune
5 war decs active must have included some pew pew....
Or are you guys just avoiding pvp as most have realised by now 
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Boran Tisk
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Posted - 2007.12.28 01:25:00 -
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Originally by: Flinx Evenstar
Originally by: Wynona Calypso, search iMune Empire in the other wars section of corp interface, the list is constantly changing.
Hey Hooch, I can see you're all excited about posting 'n stuff. So that sniffy "try again" comment... hows that relate to what you quoted?
Still waiting for that link to ANY ship you have killed under the alliance Imune
5 war decs active must have included some pew pew....
Or are you guys just avoiding pvp as most have realised by now 

It hurts doesnt it
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Flinx Evenstar
Minmatar Omniscient Order
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Posted - 2007.12.28 01:30:00 -
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Originally by: Boran Tisk
It hurts doesnt it
Not really I am in a merc corp getting paid by a large alliance to blow things up.
Am just playing devils advocate, Imune does not seem interested in fighting anyone, its just a loophole in war decs that they are exploiting.
If I see some actual kills or losses under the Imune banner that they purchased, then maybe it will seem "genuine"
Until then, it is is just a way to avoid pvp, in a game that is based around it. Clever, but sad.
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Ansuru Starlancer
The Phoenix Rising FreeFall Securities
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Posted - 2007.12.28 01:38:00 -
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This is brilliant...it's like Reverse Privateering. Only you get to fight people who want to fight, instead of ganking haulers all the time, and you get to gank them when they thought they were going to raep noobs...
This is truly a thing of great beauty. :D
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Ansuru Starlancer
The Phoenix Rising FreeFall Securities
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Posted - 2007.12.28 01:51:00 -
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Originally by: Cain Bloodlust
Originally by: Tzar'rim That's rather smart. Win-win for both parties, no more war for those who don't want it and free targets for those who do.
Excelent, and so very much in the spirit of EVE :)
EVE features non-consentual PVP, so no, this is not in the "spirit of EVE". Don't get me wrong, I still think this is clever and very cool.
Oh, but this is non-consensual. The griefers don't consent to fighting an alliance potentially full of hardened pvp corps...but they wind up getting a taste of their own medicine.
It's so Eve-spirit-esque that it's poetic.
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Laythun
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Posted - 2007.12.28 02:16:00 -
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Smart idea.
But tbh, if a war target did this to me to avoid a war. i would keep dec'ing them over and over again. You'll just force corps to be more vindictive. which isnt a bad thing 
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Kal Shakai
Dominus Imperium
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Posted - 2007.12.28 02:57:00 -
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Originally by: Laythun Smart idea.
But tbh, if a war target did this to me to avoid a war. i would keep dec'ing them over and over again. You'll just force corps to be more vindictive. which isnt a bad thing 
The vindictive thing is right on the money. I have been making it my personal vendetta to punish any corp using this lame tactic for as long as our free war lasts.
I just racked up seven solo kill mails in 29 minutes from a poor little corp that thought they were getting a "service". Where was Ashley "station cowgirl" Sky? I'll give you three guesses and the first two don't count.
I normally wouldn't bother with such a mismatch but this tactic really irritates me.
I guess the bright side is that every time a corp uses iMune I get fresh targets for 24 hours.
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Wesley Baird
Murder-Death-Kill
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Posted - 2007.12.28 05:53:00 -
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Originally by: Kal Shakai
Originally by: Laythun Smart idea.
But tbh, if a war target did this to me to avoid a war. i would keep dec'ing them over and over again. You'll just force corps to be more vindictive. which isnt a bad thing 
The vindictive thing is right on the money. I have been making it my personal vendetta to punish any corp using this lame tactic for as long as our free war lasts.
I just racked up seven solo kill mails in 29 minutes from a poor little corp that thought they were getting a "service". Where was Ashley "station cowgirl" Sky? I'll give you three guesses and the first two don't count.
I normally wouldn't bother with such a mismatch but this tactic really irritates me.
I guess the bright side is that every time a corp uses iMune I get fresh targets for 24 hours.
Someone finally gets the point I was making earlier...
o/
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Ashley Sky
Mesopotamia iMune Empire
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Posted - 2007.12.28 06:40:00 -
[104]
Originally by: Kal Shakai
I just racked up seven solo kill mails in 29 minutes from a poor little corp that thought they were getting a "service". Where was Ashley "station cowgirl" Sky? I'll give you three guesses and the first two don't count.
I don't understand why everyone complains so much about our free services when they have so much entertainment potential for all. :)
You know up until a few minutes ago you were at war with an alliance with only 2 actual members. :)
Not for long though. If you build it, they will come. Now recruiting PvP pilots of all kinds. Time to float the ark.
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Gaia Thorn
Villains
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Posted - 2007.12.28 07:38:00 -
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Edited by: Gaia Thorn on 28/12/2007 07:39:48 Tbh i think this is rather clever, since this "alliance" is probably governed by privateers or any other pirate corp.
They lure the carebears into joining and leaving the alliance and there getting a freewar against the carebear corp. Sure it's only 24 hours but enough corps joining and leaving will give them total anonymity and a hell of alot of wars.
And all they pay is a corp wardec fee since they can create a new corp with one guybin it and keep war deccing it and then join their own alliance with it.
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techzer0
IDLE GUNS
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Posted - 2007.12.28 10:47:00 -
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Originally by: Wynona Calypso, search iMune Empire in the other wars section of corp interface, the list is constantly changing.
Hey Hooch, I can see you're all excited about posting 'n stuff. So that sniffy "try again" comment... hows that relate to what you quoted?
Beat me to asking how it applied to what I said... I didn't say mass war decs against corps, only "mass war decs"
Reading comprehension ftw  ____________________ Hi. I'm not an alt :) |

Damares
Maximum Yarrage
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Posted - 2007.12.28 13:08:00 -
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i dont like this idea tbh, atleast the corp that used this to war evade us we didnt particularly want to fight and the war was pretty much resolved, i just hope the corp we're now at war with doesnt know about these guys ahhhwell, free war targets for a while anyways
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Kal Shakai
Dominus Imperium
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Posted - 2007.12.28 13:49:00 -
[108]
Originally by: Ashley Sky
Originally by: Kal Shakai
I just racked up seven solo kill mails in 29 minutes from a poor little corp that thought they were getting a "service". Where was Ashley "station cowgirl" Sky? I'll give you three guesses and the first two don't count.
I don't understand why everyone complains so much about our free services when they have so much entertainment potential for all. :)
You know up until a few minutes ago you were at war with an alliance with only 2 actual members. :)
Not for long though. If you build it, they will come. Now recruiting PvP pilots of all kinds. Time to float the ark.
I completely understand your point about the entertainment value of this idea. Unfortunately, I am on the wrong side of the equation. As it stands right now I am having to do the equivalent of club baby seals. The corps using your service aren't much of a challenge. This is to be expected I guess.
I must admit I am torn over the desire to be the "anit-iMune fighter of principal" by punishing those who use your service or being part of a potentially great mercenary movement to absorb war declarations and get some good fights with some quality oppponents.
At the moment it comes down to how your presenting this and the fact that you treat everyone the same. If you were charging for the service and being responsible (not protecting the bullies who got more than they could handle) I could see the value to the community and possibly to my fun factor.
Now where did those baby seals go...?
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Swamp Ziro
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.12.28 16:12:00 -
[109]
A wardecs B B joins iMune A follows B and joins iMune A blows B the **** up again. B leaves iMune A wardecs B
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Speed Addict
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Posted - 2007.12.28 17:28:00 -
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Originally by: Swamp Ziro A wardecs B B joins iMune A follows B and joins iMune A blows B the **** up again. B leaves iMune A wardecs B
u tard, if u shoot an alliance member in highsec u get concorded - - - Hi Speed Devil You are receiving this notice to inform you that your posting privileges have now been permanently terminated.
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Tigerfish Torpedo
Underworld Protection Agency The Crimson Federation
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Posted - 2007.12.28 17:28:00 -
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A wardecs B, B joins Imune, A follows B into Imune, A fires on B within the alliance, Concord kills A.
Mu huh?
Awesome idea though Imune :) If any of the griefer corps do keep up the war, the prospect of having so many inbound would cost each new hostile corp/alliance several hundred million, if not billions.
I love it, tbh.
Tiger.
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Wynona
Mesopotamia iMune Empire
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Posted - 2007.12.28 18:06:00 -
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This is the big picture here (I like big pictures) 
Freedom 48hrs Can't fight 24hrs Can fight Freedom
That's 100% freedom, followed by 1 day of war, followed by 100% freedom till the next war comes along,
We want your wars, and we welcome PvPers to fight them. Freedom and Chaos all under the same roof, welcome to Eve. 
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Trilori
Caldari GearBox Fleet Svcs
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Posted - 2007.12.28 18:42:00 -
[113]
I approve of this idea, get yourself listed on RESX so we can trade your shares please! :)
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Sslinger
Privateers Privateer Alliance
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Posted - 2007.12.29 11:03:00 -
[114]
I guess I am confused....
why would a corp join iMune if iMune has a war dec against them?
If iMune already has an active war dec and a corp joins them then there is no 24 hour waiting period....there is instant fighting.
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Le Skunk
Low Sec Liberators
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Posted - 2007.12.29 11:45:00 -
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Edited by: Le Skunk on 29/12/2007 11:45:15
Originally by: Sslinger I guess I am confused....
why would a corp join iMune if iMune has a war dec against them?
If iMune already has an active war dec and a corp joins them then there is no 24 hour waiting period....there is instant fighting.
I believe the corp joins i-mune and instantly leave. The wardec stays with i-mune and the corp is free from the dec after 24 hours.
I-mune are not sending out hoards of pilots to protect anyone who gets wardeced, or people would not be up in arms. They simply providing a 1 minute administrative role to avoid the dec.
You can look at a corps 'alliance' history now, and looking at a couple, i can see some have joined Imune multiple times, one has joined and left three times in one week for the sum total of three minutes.
Whilst i applaud the ingenuity of this service, and am much amused by the further highlighting of CCP's cretinous and muddle headed approaches to war decs, I detest the further slide into eve as a PVP flagged game.
SKUNK
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Ponderous Thunderstroke
Republic War Machine Industries
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Posted - 2007.12.29 12:38:00 -
[116]
Originally by: Cain Bloodlust
Originally by: Tzar'rim That's rather smart. Win-win for both parties, no more war for those who don't want it and free targets for those who do.
Excelent, and so very much in the spirit of EVE :)
EVE features non-consentual PVP, so no, this is not in the "spirit of EVE". Don't get me wrong, I still think this is clever and very cool.
I dunno, the people whose creampuff wardecs against Acme Carebears Inc, whose wardecs transfer to IMune, they get a week of non-consensual PVP with IMune! Sounds great to me.     
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Constance Noring
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Posted - 2007.12.29 19:09:00 -
[117]
I give it max 3 months before CCP changes the wardec system so that the wars your brought into an alliance with your corp stick with the corp if they leave.
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steveid
Templar Securities and Holdings
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Posted - 2007.12.29 19:25:00 -
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i'm of the opinion this sucks really badly, but i dont mind it to much as it will force CCP to change war dec mechanics which wil be a good thing.
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Phoebus Athenian
Gallente KIA Corp KIA Alliance
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Posted - 2007.12.29 20:05:00 -
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Cool idea... Expect your alliance to get a whole lot of wardecs though :P ---
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cheese monkey
In terrorem KIA Alliance
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Posted - 2007.12.29 20:54:00 -
[120]
How many whiners already? lol Eve should be all about choice surely?! i mean at the end of the day if someone was in a corp that had been war dec'd they could just leave to an NPC corp for a week(holiday). people going to whine about this too? ive always found an adequate number of targets. This is a good idea, but tbh i doubt many corps will go through all the hassle when if a merc is a decent one they will just war dec again, and if they find themselves with more targets i doubt anyone will complain.
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