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Janu Hull Caldari Terra Incognita Dark Matter Coalition	Posted - 2008.01.16 13:01:00 - [601] Originally by: Bilaz Originally by: Minnow maught Originally by: Komolov But we have to ensure our safety and safety of our allies. So if we see we can remove potential threat easily - we'll do this. My condolences to collateral victims. PS - We're peaceful people. Carebears in heart. So by not peacefully negotiating an agreeable price for the Titans, you decide to try and take them by force. Surely this just increases the risk that DMC will sell them to your enemies and is actually counterproductive to what you 'say' you are trying to achieve ? Perhaps if you could not have agreed a price between RA and DMC, you could have arranged for it to be sold to another of your allies whom may have found the price agreeable. Or perhaps you view your allies as potential threats? TBH, it just looks like you were blinded with greed and wanted Titans for free. Protecting ourselves and our allies from the mighty DMC sounds more like an excuse. You dont get it. the way i see it: DMC - You expect us to give titans for free? RA - no, we expect you to die as for "why?" dmc came path from partner to possible threat in less than month and now they face consequences. p.s to clarify - dmc is not threat, but selling titans to wrong people is. Well, if your alliance amounts to the "wrong" people, guess who's next on the block should you ever aquire one.
Furian Raven Amarr Redemption EnterpriseS Dark Matter Coalition	Posted - 2008.01.16 13:32:00 - [602] Originally by: Bilaz as for "why?" dmc came path from partner to possible threat in less than month and now they face consequences.p.s to clarify - dmc is not threat, but selling titans to wrong people is. let me get this right.first you've said that we've joined forces with atlas/ci to attack ka-pet and that was the reson that you have shown your red as* in our space. now you are saying that we are not a threat but we wanted to sell our titans to the wrong people ? well yeah you are right.we wanted to sell our titans to the wrong people that are you&co.
xRazoRx The xDEATHx Squadron Legion of xXDEATHXx	Posted - 2008.01.16 13:36:00 - [603] Originally by: Furian Raven well yeah you are right.we wanted to sell our titans to the wrong people that are you&co. Highest bidder isn't RED&co.
Bilaz Minmatar Legion of xXDEATHXx	Posted - 2008.01.16 14:27:00 - [604] Edited by: Bilaz on 16/01/2008 14:34:50 Originally by: Furian Raven let me get this right.first you've said that we've joined forces with atlas/ci to attack ka-pet and that was the reson that you have shown your red as* in our space. now you are saying that we are not a threat but we wanted to sell our titans to the wrong people ? well yeah you are right.we wanted to sell our titans to the wrong people that are you&co. Thats the way i see it. I may be wrong. not being part of diplo process one can only guess. maybe some Dmc guy said something funny about UaxDeath or nync in local or convo? you will never know. Originally by: Janu Hull Well, if your alliance amounts to the "wrong" people, guess who's next on the block should you ever aquire one. If Ra turns on us, you wont see us crying on this forum. the worst thing in this situation is that we'll have to find a new killboard and i'm kind of like Ra's .
Rhaegor Stormborn Volition Cult The Volition Cult	Posted - 2008.01.16 14:40:00 - [605] Originally by: Komolov It was like 6 of us camping station in bq and 20 of you accidentally undocking from it at once. Lol. My tank hold for two minutes before i got blown up. If not katet large bubble on gate in 3-j, our bs could save me in time. Point taken - i added more tank on my phobos. [IMAGE REMOVED] Reminds me of RIT-A7. [IMAGE REMOVED] Rhaegor Stormborn Fleet Admiral - The Volition Cult
Virgil Aquilis GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.01.16 15:07:00 - [606] Originally by: Rhaegor Stormborn Originally by: Komolov It was like 6 of us camping station in bq and 20 of you accidentally undocking from it at once. Lol. My tank hold for two minutes before i got blown up. If not katet large bubble on gate in 3-j, our bs could save me in time. Point taken - i added more tank on my phobos. [IMAGE REMOVED] Reminds me of RIT-A7. [IMAGE REMOVED] Except that in RIT the RISE pilots still would have all died XD (because they're rise (and rise was the worst alliance in EVE (except maybe for D-L))) [IMAGE REMOVED] Please resize image to a maximum of 400 x 120, not exceeding 24000 bytes, ty. If you would like further details please mail [email protected] - Cortes
Alahar Horizon.Inc Dark Matter Coalition	Posted - 2008.01.16 15:17:00 - [607] Originally by: Bilaz Edited by: Bilaz on 16/01/2008 14:34:50 Originally by: Furian Raven let me get this right.first you've said that we've joined forces with atlas/ci to attack ka-pet and that was the reson that you have shown your red as* in our space. now you are saying that we are not a threat but we wanted to sell our titans to the wrong people ? well yeah you are right.we wanted to sell our titans to the wrong people that are you&co. Thats the way i see it. I may be wrong. not being part of diplo process one can only guess. maybe some Dmc guy said something funny about UaxDeath or nync in local or convo? you will never know. Originally by: Janu Hull Well, if your alliance amounts to the "wrong" people, guess who's next on the block should you ever aquire one. If Ra turns on us, you wont see us crying on this forum. the worst thing in this situation is that we'll have to find a new killboard and i'm kind of like Ra's . Hm, who did start this thread with a lie?
Westly Synpa GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.01.16 15:32:00 - [608] Originally by: Virgil Aquilis Originally by: Rhaegor Stormborn Originally by: Komolov It was like 6 of us camping station in bq and 20 of you accidentally undocking from it at once. Lol. My tank hold for two minutes before i got blown up. If not katet large bubble on gate in 3-j, our bs could save me in time. Point taken - i added more tank on my phobos. Reminds me of RIT-A7. Except that in RIT the RISE pilots still would have all died XD (because they're rise (and rise was the worst alliance in EVE (except maybe for D-L))) D-L were the best people to fight in the wrold they would un-dock a carrier on almost anything and lose it was a great week long campaign.
KOVAD OEG Red Alliance	Posted - 2008.01.16 17:20:00 - [609] Originally by: Ayato kun This war brought me something wonderful : I found some very old russian friends from Freelancer there, they are from the OEG corp, and i use this topic to say them privet vsem ! Special kisses to Kovad and Hans <--Kikicorky from the FS clan Try to have fun in this war everyone ! Salut Kiki! glad to see u in space again=)) Remets la salutation de OEG a nos vieux amis - Katalog, Pulsar, Lava =)))
Minnow maught Art of War	Posted - 2008.01.16 18:08:00 - [610] Originally by: Bilaz Originally by: Minnow maught Originally by: Komolov But we have to ensure our safety and safety of our allies. So if we see we can remove potential threat easily - we'll do this. My condolences to collateral victims. PS - We're peaceful people. Carebears in heart. So by not peacefully negotiating an agreeable price for the Titans, you decide to try and take them by force. Surely this just increases the risk that DMC will sell them to your enemies and is actually counterproductive to what you 'say' you are trying to achieve ? Perhaps if you could not have agreed a price between RA and DMC, you could have arranged for it to be sold to another of your allies whom may have found the price agreeable. Or perhaps you view your allies as potential threats? TBH, it just looks like you were blinded with greed and wanted Titans for free. Protecting ourselves and our allies from the mighty DMC sounds more like an excuse. You dont get it. the way i see it: DMC - You expect us to give titans for free? RA - no, we expect you to die as for "why?" dmc came path from partner to possible threat in less than month and now they face consequences. p.s to clarify - dmc is not threat, but selling titans to wrong people is. p.s to clarify - dmc is not threat, but selling titans to wrong people is. That is exactly my point !!! By attacking them, do you think this increases or decreases the possibility of those titans being sold to your enemies ? I can't wait for the announcement that DMC have sold their titans to BoB but I guess 'you didn't want those titans anyway'
RDLxVulture Minmatar The xDEATHx Squadron Legion of xXDEATHXx	Posted - 2008.01.16 18:11:00 - [611] I guess it would be much cheaper for BOBs to build titans themselve ---------------------
Tayler Derden Solar Dragons Red Alliance	Posted - 2008.01.16 18:16:00 - [612] Originally by: Zorland Am I right when I say you Russians never shoot other Russians? lie
Officer Seller	Posted - 2008.01.16 18:22:00 - [613] yes give 4 ms to russian, than they continue attack you for the 2 titan omfg dmc coalition member/leader are the most incompetent i ever seen on eve
Mc Leech The xDEATHx Squadron Legion of xXDEATHXx	Posted - 2008.01.16 18:23:00 - [614] Originally by: Cruel Fox Edited by: Cruel Fox on 16/01/2008 12:01:52 To give few anwswers: -DMC wont loos 2 titans and we do have pilots -DMC didnt and had NO intention to sell titans to any of RA hostiles! Remember they were offered to RA at first, and we tried to actually sell them to XIX and nearlly got scamed (but if there is need we prolly can do it now) -someone asked was it worth it; DAMND right it was! It was worht it. Seling under mineral cost would make us without sence/honor/pride/respect/freedom and we decided that those worth more! Therefore again RA can take ower our claimed space - but eve comunity got clear msg and picture who u have to deal with! Yes for that it was worth it! Even in worse case scenario lets do the math: 4 mses = 80 bil 4 outposts = 80 bil ergo we r loosing 160 bil! We r loosing what we offered them; we offered RA our space and we gave RA 4 MSes; but we keep 2 titans! We keep freedom, we keep pride. So yea - would do it again - with skiping the part ever tried to belive RA will protect us! There goes mine baner again! Thats funny cause the way I see it DMC lost or going to loose: 4 Stations Several douzens of large towers with fitting (mostly faction) Hundreds of ships and god knows how much fitting And most importantly a full region of 0.0 space Total looses: Hundreds of billions. What DMC gains: NOTHING. Average member can care less about 2 titans they belong to you not to DMC so YOU get to keep them at cost of destroying your alliance. Actually you dont even want to keep them, but sell them to highest bidder so basically your alliance dies so you can make some profit. Lets not pretend that you build those 2 titans for the greater good of your alliance. You just got greedy, tried to make some cash from selling most powerfull weapon in eve to highest bidder and your alliance payed the price.
Zorland Minmatar Detinus Republic	Posted - 2008.01.16 18:30:00 - [615] Originally by: Mc Leech Thats funny cause the way I see it DMC lost or going to loose: 4 Stations Several douzens of large towers with fitting (mostly faction) Hundreds of ships and god knows how much fitting And most importantly a full region of 0.0 space Total looses: Hundreds of billions. What DMC gains: NOTHING. Average member can care less about 2 titans they belong to you not to DMC so YOU get to keep them at cost of destroying your alliance. Actually you dont even want to keep them, but sell them to highest bidder so basically your alliance dies so you can make some profit. Lets not pretend that you build those 2 titans for the greater good of your alliance. You just got greedy, tried to make some cash from selling most powerfull weapon in eve to highest bidder and your alliance payed the price. What they didn't lose is spine. But, I don't think you understand it, so let me try and explain. When you log off after jumping the gate and there is a gate camp on the other side, you save your ship alright. But then, everyone in EVE starts calling you logoffsky *****. To some people it's more important to save the face and lose the ship, but then there is the other kind that don't care about the face and will get to keep the ship...
Shaemell Buttleson Darwin With Attitude oooh Shiny	Posted - 2008.01.16 18:51:00 - [616] We had a temp NAP with DMC and their friends for 1 particular engagement. They are OK guys as far as I can see but I know jack about the politics, care even less for the reasons why this has happened. I just wish the mud slinging wouuld stop and that all the entities involved would get on and have fun blowing the crap out of each other.
maya ibuki2 54th Knights Templar Dark Matter Coalition	Posted - 2008.01.16 19:36:00 - [617] Edited by: maya ibuki2 on 16/01/2008 19:40:19 Edited by: maya ibuki2 on 16/01/2008 19:37:35 Originally by: Shaemell Buttleson I just wish the mud slinging wouuld stop and that all the entities involved would get on and have fun blowing the crap out of each other. you know hes got a point. maya ibuki2-currently dmc pvper, proud member of the 54th knights templar and genral shooty type
Cruel Fox Singulerity Dark Matter Coalition	Posted - 2008.01.16 19:38:00 - [618] Originally by: RDLxVulture I guess it would be much cheaper for BOBs to build titans themselve I will try just ONCE MORE and then i call it - u r just mentally XXXX; Titans was offered to RA; DMC was trying to sell em to RA, RA tried to scame them away! So wtf r u on about? but makes sence - DMC makes titans for BOB, thats why we offer them to RA, ect ect and on the end we sell it to BOB for who we originally buld anyway! How dumb could i be! I just owned this logic throught this! From now on i am smarter! Thx! SOOOOOOO much - i LOVE u! _________________________________________ Russian true speach about themselves: U do have to understand we are russians and we do have our own honor and reputation
Graalum Foundation R0ADKILL	Posted - 2008.01.16 19:44:00 - [619] Originally by: CkoBoPodKuH Edited by: CkoBoPodKuH on 16/01/2008 05:27:32 Originally by: Graalum so when was it again that they were going to sell to ra's enemies? oh and agreed with the second part. Was'nt that new MC's ragnarok bought from DMC ? afaik it was built from the dice bpo. Your signature graphic must reflect your ingame persona as per The Forum rules - Kreul Intentions ([email protected])
Dyanosis2 Royal Amarr Tactical Squad	Posted - 2008.01.16 20:00:00 - [620] Edited by: Dyanosis2 on 16/01/2008 20:03:23 What i don't think you guys understand is ... DMC as an alliance does not build Titans. A corp in DMC builds Titans. It isn't an alliance op to build Titans so we have no control over who they go to.
xRazoRx The xDEATHx Squadron Legion of xXDEATHXx	Posted - 2008.01.16 20:05:00 - [621] Edited by: xRazoRx on 16/01/2008 20:07:15 Originally by: Dyanosis2 Edited by: Dyanosis2 on 16/01/2008 20:03:23 What i don't think you guys understand is ... DMC as an alliance does not build Titans. A corp in DMC builds Titans. It isn't an alliance op to build Titans so we have no control over who they go to. Oh, i see. So, not only you regular members dont know s**t but even CEOs dont cooperate, right?
Dyanosis2 Royal Amarr Tactical Squad	Posted - 2008.01.16 20:06:00 - [622] Originally by: xRazoRx Originally by: Dyanosis2 Edited by: Dyanosis2 on 16/01/2008 20:03:23 What i don't think you guys understand is ... DMC as an alliance does not build Titans. A corp in DMC builds Titans. It isn't an alliance op to build Titans so we have no control over who they go to. And the titan building corp is in the alliance. Yes but the titan builder did it on his own. the alliance had nothing to do with it
xRazoRx The xDEATHx Squadron Legion of xXDEATHXx	Posted - 2008.01.16 20:08:00 - [623] Edited by: xRazoRx on 16/01/2008 20:08:33 Originally by: Dyanosis2 Originally by: xRazoRx Originally by: Dyanosis2 Edited by: Dyanosis2 on 16/01/2008 20:03:23 What i don't think you guys understand is ... DMC as an alliance does not build Titans. A corp in DMC builds Titans. It isn't an alliance op to build Titans so we have no control over who they go to. And the titan building corp is in the alliance. Yes but the titan builder did it on his own. the alliance had nothing to do with it We'd kick the whole corp from the alliance tbqfh.
rgreat Gallente OEG Red Alliance	Posted - 2008.01.16 20:11:00 - [624] Edited by: rgreat on 16/01/2008 20:13:43 .. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
maya ibuki2 54th Knights Templar Dark Matter Coalition	Posted - 2008.01.16 20:12:00 - [625] Edited by: maya ibuki2 on 16/01/2008 20:14:07 Edited by: maya ibuki2 on 16/01/2008 20:13:44 Edited by: maya ibuki2 on 16/01/2008 20:12:30 Originally by: xRazoRx Edited by: xRazoRx on 16/01/2008 20:07:15 Originally by: Dyanosis2 Edited by: Dyanosis2 on 16/01/2008 20:03:23 What i don't think you guys understand is ... DMC as an alliance does not build Titans. A corp in DMC builds Titans. It isn't an alliance op to build Titans so we have no control over who they go to. Oh, i see. So, not only you regular members dont know s**t but even CEOs dont cooperate, right? we can only know what were told/ find out mate. for example, i found upon returning to eve after xmas we were red to half the east and south, i was told katet and ra are the reason, and then found myself in a loada fights, killing and losing ships all over the show. all i know is that ive had fun. you boys fight a real hard fight, and us pvpers in dmc have given y'all the best we have and then some-so the way i see it we did good. maya ibuki2-currently dmc pvper, proud member of the 54th knights templar and genral shooty type
Magnabyte Rukongai Dark Matter Coalition	Posted - 2008.01.16 20:13:00 - [626] The alliance heads knew about it, but the common member didn't, hell we didn't even know we had a titan till it was unveiled, and we never got anything on the discussions you had had. Personally I think we were to small an alliance to have any Titans, though i suppose one would have helped us help you down in fountain, but 2 really seems a bit much, especially since even getting one put an alliance on both the map and the kill boards. Ah well, I'm sure the head ups had their reasons, and though I think personally it was a mistake, its done now, and all that remains is to kick you out of our space, or failing that make ratting and mining very hard for the new owners
dastommy79 Di-Tron Heavy Industries Atlas Alliance	Posted - 2008.01.16 20:55:00 - [627] Originally by: xRazoRx Edited by: xRazoRx on 16/01/2008 20:08:33 Originally by: Dyanosis2 Originally by: xRazoRx Originally by: Dyanosis2 Edited by: Dyanosis2 on 16/01/2008 20:03:23 What i don't think you guys understand is ... DMC as an alliance does not build Titans. A corp in DMC builds Titans. It isn't an alliance op to build Titans so we have no control over who they go to. And the titan building corp is in the alliance. Yes but the titan builder did it on his own. the alliance had nothing to do with it We'd kick the whole corp from the alliance tbqfh. You would first have to claim your own space I driks lot Originally by: Peoke this is nothing to do with dmc this is 1 of the 4 alliance under attack by red. the 4 weve sworn our lives to. SMASHKILL ATLAS CHAOS. SIMPLE
Vashi Dokumentu The xDEATHx Squadron Legion of xXDEATHXx	Posted - 2008.01.16 21:01:00 - [628] Originally by: dastommy79 Originally by: xRazoRx Edited by: xRazoRx on 16/01/2008 20:08:33 Originally by: Dyanosis2 Originally by: xRazoRx Originally by: Dyanosis2 Edited by: Dyanosis2 on 16/01/2008 20:03:23 What i don't think you guys understand is ... DMC as an alliance does not build Titans. A corp in DMC builds Titans. It isn't an alliance op to build Titans so we have no control over who they go to. And the titan building corp is in the alliance. Yes but the titan builder did it on his own. the alliance had nothing to do with it We'd kick the whole corp from the alliance tbqfh. You would first have to claim your own space i like to be a pet of my master Mittani, sometimes he do awful things to me......but its ok i got use to it, most of the time, he is a good master.
TroNaaR Di-Tron Heavy Industries Atlas Alliance	Posted - 2008.01.16 21:04:00 - [629] Originally by: Vashi Dokumentu i like to be a pet of my master Mittani, sometimes he do awful things to me......but its ok i got use to it, most of the time, he is a good master. ITT: Mittani touches on some special areas... Wherever you go... There you are...
xRazoRx The xDEATHx Squadron Legion of xXDEATHXx	Posted - 2008.01.16 21:19:00 - [630] Edited by: xRazoRx on 16/01/2008 21:19:32 Originally by: dastommy79 Originally by: xRazoRx Edited by: xRazoRx on 16/01/2008 20:08:33 Originally by: Dyanosis2 Originally by: xRazoRx Originally by: Dyanosis2 Edited by: Dyanosis2 on 16/01/2008 20:03:23 What i don't think you guys understand is ... DMC as an alliance does not build Titans. A corp in DMC builds Titans. It isn't an alliance op to build Titans so we have no control over who they go to. And the titan building corp is in the alliance. Yes but the titan builder did it on his own. the alliance had nothing to do with it We'd kick the whole corp from the alliance tbqfh. You would first have to claim your own space Just as you have to learn ass kicking lvl 1 Also, wut?

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