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Ethen Bejorn Pestilent Industries Amalgamated	Posted - 2008.01.16 22:11:00 - [631] Originally by: Mc Leech Thats funny cause the way I see it DMC lost or going to loose: 4 Stations Several douzens of large towers with fitting (mostly faction) Hundreds of ships and god knows how much fitting And most importantly a full region of 0.0 space Total looses: Hundreds of billions. What DMC gains: NOTHING. Average member can care less about 2 titans they belong to you not to DMC so YOU get to keep them at cost of destroying your alliance. Actually you dont even want to keep them, but sell them to highest bidder so basically your alliance dies so you can make some profit. Lets not pretend that you build those 2 titans for the greater good of your alliance. You just got greedy, tried to make some cash from selling most powerfull weapon in eve to highest bidder and your alliance payed the price. They did not lose the community's respect. They also have helped remind the community why we hate the Russians. Once BoB is dead, RA is next.
Virgil Aquilis GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.01.16 22:16:00 - [632] Originally by: Ethen Bejorn They did not lose the community's respect. They also have helped remind the community why we hate the Russians. Once BoB is dead, RA is next. I think I'm nominating you for the most adorable new CAOD alt poster. Please resize image to a maximum of 400 x 120, not exceeding 24000 bytes, ty. If you would like further details please mail [email protected] - Cortes
dastommy79 Di-Tron Heavy Industries Atlas Alliance	Posted - 2008.01.16 23:03:00 - [633] Originally by: xRazoRx Edited by: xRazoRx on 16/01/2008 21:19:32 Originally by: dastommy79 Originally by: xRazoRx Edited by: xRazoRx on 16/01/2008 20:08:33 Originally by: Dyanosis2 Originally by: xRazoRx Originally by: Dyanosis2 Edited by: Dyanosis2 on 16/01/2008 20:03:23 What i don't think you guys understand is ... DMC as an alliance does not build Titans. A corp in DMC builds Titans. It isn't an alliance op to build Titans so we have no control over who they go to. And the titan building corp is in the alliance. Yes but the titan builder did it on his own. the alliance had nothing to do with it We'd kick the whole corp from the alliance tbqfh. You would first have to claim your own space Just as you have to learn ass kicking lvl 1 Also, wut? my bad. Just assumed you couldnt manage a pos I <3 xrazorx I driks lot Originally by: Peoke this is nothing to do with dmc this is 1 of the 4 alliance under attack by red. the 4 weve sworn our lives to. SMASHKILL ATLAS CHAOS. SIMPLE
Scatim Helicon GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.01.16 23:22:00 - [634] Originally by: Ethen Bejorn Once BoB is dead, RA is next. I'm sure that having spent the last year in a slow grinding POS war across half the galaxy to eliminate one major 0.0 power, the first thing everybody will want to do is start up another one.
Maitre Yoda Viking Clan Absolute Guardians Syndicate	Posted - 2008.01.16 23:36:00 - [635] Edited by: Maitre Yoda on 16/01/2008 23:38:50 Originally by: Ethen Bejorn Originally by: Mc Leech ... They did not lose the community's respect. They also have helped remind the community why we hate the Russians. Once BoB is dead, RA is next. RA is next to die? giggles By you and what army? BoB are not only losing ground, but also their touch with the reality... _________________ Don't Panic!
Wesley Baird Murder-Death-Kill	Posted - 2008.01.16 23:54:00 - [636] Edited by: Wesley Baird on 16/01/2008 23:54:17 Originally by: Ethen Bejorn They did not lose the community's respect. They also have helped remind the community why we hate the Russians. Once BoB is dead, RA is next. Perhaps the worst post in CAOD history...you don't speak for the community, you can keep this vile rhetoric to yourself...
Graalum Foundation R0ADKILL	Posted - 2008.01.16 23:59:00 - [637] Originally by: Ethen Bejorn Originally by: Mc Leech Thats funny cause the way I see it DMC lost or going to loose: 4 Stations Several douzens of large towers with fitting (mostly faction) Hundreds of ships and god knows how much fitting And most importantly a full region of 0.0 space Total looses: Hundreds of billions. What DMC gains: NOTHING. Average member can care less about 2 titans they belong to you not to DMC so YOU get to keep them at cost of destroying your alliance. Actually you dont even want to keep them, but sell them to highest bidder so basically your alliance dies so you can make some profit. Lets not pretend that you build those 2 titans for the greater good of your alliance. You just got greedy, tried to make some cash from selling most powerfull weapon in eve to highest bidder and your alliance payed the price. They did not lose the community's respect. They also have helped remind the community why we hate the Russians. Once BoB is dead, RA is next. My ceo is russia, please don't slander her like that. Whatever sympathy there might be toward killing RA like what is happening to bob (and as others have pointed out apathy would probably win out for at least several months), something you are clearly in favor of, posting **** really doesn't get you too far. Your signature graphic must reflect your ingame persona as per The Forum rules - Kreul Intentions ([email protected])
Mutant UA Industry Red Alliance	Posted - 2008.01.17 01:55:00 - [638] Originally by: Ethen Bejorn They did not lose the community's respect. They also have helped remind the community why we hate the Russians. Once BoB is dead, RA is next. Victim of cold war or simply idiot...
Dante Barsavi Red Branch Inc	Posted - 2008.01.17 03:58:00 - [639] From what i hear the DMC grunts are evacuating their space in droves (empire maybe). Very few logged in and of those most are sitting in stations. Ka-Tet/ED/IRC and some others are Pos bowling at will. Could anybody in DMC confirm on whether or not the alliance is relocating or even if some of the corps (maybe the ones with the titan BPO) are folding into other alliances nearby. TY
Vemille Kechov OrdoDraconis Dark Matter Coalition	Posted - 2008.01.17 05:40:00 - [640] Originally by: Dante Barsavi From what i hear the DMC grunts are evacuating their space in droves (empire maybe). Very few logged in and of those most are sitting in stations. Ka-Tet/ED/IRC and some others are Pos bowling at will. Could anybody in DMC confirm on whether or not the alliance is relocating or even if some of the corps (maybe the ones with the titan BPO) are folding into other alliances nearby. TY I can confirm that people are leaving corporations, though I'm not sure on plans for the future. Leadership, um... well, we haven't received much word from them on, well, anything. The few of us trying to fight are having a hard time of it; we're severely outnumbered, and reds have the systems locked down hard. There have been several small skirmishes in our capital system, but we have to bail after a short time - local quickly jumps by at least fifty players once we engage. Most of the people leaving now have proven that they were dead weight in the first place. Good to see the fat get trimmed away; it will help us greatly in the future. What you see, is your death... OrdoDraconis.
Komolov Gallente REUNI0N Red Alliance	Posted - 2008.01.17 07:56:00 - [641] Originally by: Vemille Kechov I can confirm that people are leaving corporations, though I'm not sure on plans for the future. Leadership, um... well, we haven't received much word from them on, well, anything. The few of us trying to fight are having a hard time of it; we're severely outnumbered, and reds have the systems locked down hard. There have been several small skirmishes in our capital system, but we have to bail after a short time - local quickly jumps by at least fifty players once we engage. Most of the people leaving now have proven that they were dead weight in the first place. Good to see the fat get trimmed away; it will help us greatly in the future. You know, i think for you it's better to join other alliance more suitable for you rather then desperately try to convince carebears to fight. In the absence of strong military leadership and iron discipline it is impossible. --------------------
Erik Amirault Gallente GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.01.17 08:16:00 - [642] Edited by: Erik Amirault on 17/01/2008 08:17:13 Originally by: Vemille Kechov Most of the people leaving now have proven that they were dead weight in the first place. Good to see the fat get trimmed away; it will help us greatly in the future. I hate seeing people say this. No, it's not going to help you. At the very least those people provided you with some income. Either way now you're going to get smashed, just like RISE and ISS and all those other fools did who said "Oh we're trimming the fat."
Amateratsu Caldari Terra Incognita Dark Matter Coalition	Posted - 2008.01.17 08:45:00 - [643] Originally by: Vemille Kechov I can confirm that people are leaving corporations, though I'm not sure on plans for the future. Leadership, um... well, we haven't received much word from them on, well, anything. The few of us trying to fight are having a hard time of it; we're severely outnumbered, and reds have the systems locked down hard. There have been several small skirmishes in our capital system, but we have to bail after a short time - local quickly jumps by at least fifty players once we engage. Most of the people leaving now have proven that they were dead weight in the first place. Good to see the fat get trimmed away; it will help us greatly in the future. Thats why some corps/players are evacuating.... As you said yourself we are outnumbered, outgunned with little to no information on what the leadership have planned. Those Corps/Players are trying to salvage what they can from this debacle, while there is still time before we get wiped out...
BigWhale Gallente TGB Foo Corp Dark Matter Empire	Posted - 2008.01.17 08:53:00 - [644] We will salvage nothing! We will stay here until we ran out of everything. Then we will go back to Empire and ***** missions until we have enought to get back... ... if there is something left to go back to. If not, we'll have a corp meeting. :D -- R, U & Y are letters, not words...
Prontifex THE INTERNET.	Posted - 2008.01.17 08:58:00 - [645] Originally by: Amateratsu with little to no information on what the leadership have planned. They are evacuating all of their assets :)
Scrouge MacDac	Posted - 2008.01.17 09:26:00 - [646] According to open sources DMC has more ppl in their alliance than RA. But DMC shows no resistance if you look at killboards. DMC leadership can do nothing. They even not try to do anything. I assume they are saving as many their own assets as they can. And they donÆt care about members. Poor DMC members with such leadership you are doomed. As I assume there is still some diplomatic solution available for you. Im sure that you still can save your space, cause how RA stated they donÆt need more space. So there is something you should loose (I presume you should give up on possibility of producing Titans and give\sell existing titans to RA or their allies for the price they will offer). In that case you may gain your space back and possibility to rat, mine produce ships up too ms. But forget about titans and any weight as a political player. You will be just an industrial alliance as you always wanted to be and was. If you leadership will ruin possible diplomatic solution you will loose everything, I even doubt you will stay as an alliance. Maybe your directors and CEOs already found some good place to run, but I donÆt think all of you did it. I hope there is still possibility for you to solve it, but I afraid you leaders good only on pointless talking and saying things witch they cant do. Such as Cruel Fox was saying something about some resistance and big merc contracts. Where is all of it? How I see and know EvE politic this war for RA not for space or for total annihilation its something else and in such case DMC still able to solve this problem. But in the end who knows for sure? Maybe RA will not talk. Maybe you leadership really think they will safe their reputation running and smack talking leaving all of their alliance members to their own. Or maybe they truly believe that this small case will hurt RA image. The last one is really fun. Cause a lot off players hate RA, and a lot of admire them, so this numbers just will not change, Im sure here.
Ebusitanus Segunda Fundacion	Posted - 2008.01.17 09:28:00 - [647] This all gives me OXIDE flashbacks. ------------------------------------------------ "Stop quoting laws, we carry weapons!" Pompey the Great to the defenders of a besieged city who were crying outrage.
BigWhale Gallente TGB Foo Corp Dark Matter Empire	Posted - 2008.01.17 10:13:00 - [648] Originally by: Scrouge MacDac According to open sources DMC has more ppl in their alliance than RA. But DMC shows no resistance if you look at killboards. DMC leadership can do nothing. They even not try to do anything. I assume they are saving as many their own assets as they can. And they donÆt care about members. Poor DMC members with such leadership you are doomed. Can you name those open sources? They are open afterall, so I can personally spank them. :D DMC/DME right now is showing as much resistance as we can. But you can enlighten us how much resistance can you put when your station is camped and bubbled and as soon as you try to put up some resistance 50 or more ships comes to help? If you have any ideas, please, let us know. ;) A lot of people were already popped back in empire since cloning services are down. Quote: If you leadership will ruin possible diplomatic solution you will loose everything, I even doubt you will stay as an alliance. Maybe your directors and CEOs already found some good place to run, but I donÆt think all of you did it. Oh, conspiracies everywhere. :) Of course this war is simply staged so our leaders and CEOs (I am one of them, too, so it seems) run away with most of the assets and so on and so on... ;) PS: A quick crash-course to help you distinguish between words lose and loose and their meaning; "If you lose your anal virginity, your S-hole will be very loose." ;> -- R, U & Y are letters, not words...
Scrouge MacDac	Posted - 2008.01.17 12:37:00 - [649] Edited by: Scrouge MacDac on 17/01/2008 12:46:47 Here http://www.eve-online.com/alliances/a_227446060.asp http://www.eve-online.com/alliances/a_1214518724.asp BTW nice explanation about "We can do nothing cause 50 ppl blobing staiotn" from an allince with around 1000 ppl. Its just lolls. And you ask me what to do when 50 ppl camping your station? I will not be to rude with a CEO of 6 ppl corp, you may dont know that. But, for you to know. Back in a days, RA have been outnumbered 6 to 1, their station was camped, they had only one station left (aacording to CAOD info), guess what happened. You should ask them what should you do? They have big expirience in such cases. And thank you about lOOse example. Cause how I see now you will exacly get that lOOse, exactly from how you wrote it.
Scrouge MacDac	Posted - 2008.01.17 12:39:00 - [650] Edited by: Scrouge MacDac on 17/01/2008 12:39:47
Olympa Matar	Posted - 2008.01.17 12:53:00 - [651] Could this thread be any more contaminated with alt-baits?
Dante Barsavi Red Branch Inc	Posted - 2008.01.17 13:10:00 - [652] So to summarize. It appears to be all over for DMC. Members admit to having no information or guidance from CEOs or HC. Most of the excess players have abandoned their space and the ones who remain cannot muster enough force to fight relatively small support fleets of 50 or so. I honestly do not see a way back for DMC as the space holding entity it once was. If they somehow resolve the issue with RA and are allowed to keep their space the core players will not tolerate all those who ran or possibly those effective players who remained to fight will leave in disgust.
Pastora Russian SOBR Red Alliance	Posted - 2008.01.17 13:14:00 - [653] Originally by: Scrouge MacDac http://www.eve-online.com/alliances/a_227446060.asp http://www.eve-online.com/alliances/a_1214518724.asp (Yoda's voice) Much better sources there are :) "Outpost alert" was a good one, but seem to be on hold at the moment. But thanks to Aelena Thraant, we now have up to date information at the following address: Current Alliance Ranking _______________________________________________ If ifs and ands were pots and pans, I would grow mushrooms in my pants.
Xanath Zing Rukongai Dark Matter Coalition	Posted - 2008.01.17 13:14:00 - [654] I have already posted saying i would listen to offers of a diplomatic solution.. yeah i might not be a CEO or anything but I'd listen... no offers have come... all this talk about titan producing and such its funny... DMC DOESNT PRODUCE TITANS... that one guy does.. as for numbers of people my corp is made up of ALOT of new players to the game and so.. most are still empire bound.. without the capabilities to pvp yet. so if RA wants to talk please look me up in game, cause as i see they are having too much fun DD'ing industrials undocking :) XANATH ZING
Xanath Zing Rukongai Dark Matter Coalition	Posted - 2008.01.17 13:20:00 - [655] my math might be off but whoever said dmc has more people might want to check that link again.. Red Alliance 1 20 80 1549 9 Ka-Tet 1 7 52 1246 3 Intrepid Crossing 0 3 26 1190 3 Legion of xXDEATHXx 0 0 12 366 3 Ultima Rati0 0 0 35 1489 3 <---- i think ive seen them involved Dark Matter Empire 0 0 5 528 2 Dark Matter Coalition 1 4 52 1399 2 now i might have missed some.... but regardless... please stop talking about how we outnumber them.... im still fighting though thanks Xanath Zing
LeaQue	Posted - 2008.01.17 13:52:00 - [656] Quote: But, for you to know. Back in a days, RA have been outnumbered 6 to 1, their station was camped, they had only one station left (aacording to CAOD info), guess what happened. You should ask them what should you do? They have big expirience in such cases. Did have to lol at this RA survived through wcs,an invunerable pos (ppl shot at it for a week and it still prob there now), oh and the 3000 shuttles that where released by RA at the pos add that with RA sitting in stations and copying bm's the system was unplayable. i know these where not the only exploits that where used i mean come on RA back then and BOB today are totally different, For a start most of RA left when there space came crashing down (didnt you ever wonder where the other russian alliance appeared from?) i dont believe this has happened to bob? I have been enemies to both , been killed by both and killed both and tbh with you the thing they have in common is fact they will use anymeans possible to win (yes even if thats an exploit) apart from that there totally different. Now dont get me wrong the tricks that RA pulled worked the coalition gave up cause they couldnt kill that pos (love game bugs). Only a little while after this (and with majour meat shield)did RA actually do anything.
The fed Minmatar Solar Dragons Academy Ultima Rati0	Posted - 2008.01.17 13:57:00 - [657] Originally by: Ethen Bejorn They did not lose the community's respect. They also have helped remind the community why we hate the Russians. Once BoB is dead, RA is next. fofofo
BigWhale Gallente TGB Foo Corp Dark Matter Empire	Posted - 2008.01.17 14:02:00 - [658] Originally by: Scrouge MacDac Edited by: Scrouge MacDac on 17/01/2008 12:46:47 Here http://www.eve-online.com/alliances/a_227446060.asp http://www.eve-online.com/alliances/a_1214518724.asp BTW nice explanation about "We can do nothing cause 50 ppl blobing staiotn" from an allince with around 1000 ppl. Of course I never said that we can't do nothing. I said that we can't do much. I know what are the numbers in DMC and DME. And of course something can be done about the whole situation, but right now our numbers in that area are quite low. Where are those 1000 people, I have no idea neither why they don't show up to fight. When we started to fight with Ka-Tet our fleets had much more pilots in them. Since cloning facilities are down on the stations, I'd guess that many people has to come back from Empire to our region. Quote: Its just lolls. And you ask me what to do when 50 ppl camping your station? I will not be to rude with a CEO of 6 ppl corp, you may dont know that. But, for you to know. Back in a days, RA have been outnumbered 6 to 1, their station was camped, they had only one station left (aacording to CAOD info), guess what happened. You should ask them what should you do? They have big expirience in such cases. Perhaps most of our players are unskilled in combat and can't really handle the 6-1 situations very well. Hats off to anyone that can easily get out of that kind of situation. I know that we lack serious leadership in fights and experience in this kind of situations, but we are trying and as far as I know those of us that are still there will keep on trying as long as we have to and can. :) -- R, U & Y are letters, not words...
Pastora Russian SOBR Red Alliance	Posted - 2008.01.17 14:09:00 - [659] Originally by: BigWhale Where are those 1000 people, I have no idea neither why they don't show up to fight. Those 1000 people are our alts. Sorry! _______________________________________________ If ifs and ands were pots and pans, I would grow mushrooms in my pants.
BigWhale Gallente TGB Foo Corp Dark Matter Empire	Posted - 2008.01.17 14:31:00 - [660] Originally by: Pastora Originally by: BigWhale Where are those 1000 people, I have no idea neither why they don't show up to fight. Those 1000 people are our alts. Sorry! I always knew that there was something strange about this alliance! ;) Body Snatchers... :D -- R, U & Y are letters, not words...

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