Saying something is useless isn't going to help your case. The devs included it in game and I think they know precisely how effective or ineffective it is. It's there and it works as intended. If ECCM gives you the impression it's wasting a slot then don't use it.

In the same way shield and armor resistances can not fully protect from damage only mitigate it so follows ecm and eccm. Adapt.

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1. No tank... it won't survive an encounter with any hostile whatsoever. What do you do if you undock and there's a hostile thrasher outside the station? Damn. Your overpowered killship sure lasted long. Or what do you do if SOMEONE WARPS ON TOP OF YOU AND FIRES FOF MISSILES? Maybe the reason FOF missiles suck is because ECM boat EHP sucks.

2. No highs? How do you defend against drones?

P.S. Under 20k ehp for a cruiser is weak tank. Under 1500 m/s for a cruiser is slow speed. Under 200 dps for a cruiser is low dps.

Also I notice you've not made a single valid argument as to why the OP is a bad idea. ECM stays powerful, but slightly more specialised - keeping the role it has in larger fights while no longer being stupidly overpowered in small gangs.

Still not so much as an attempt at evidence/argument.

Look, I know you think that just because something has the longest range, it automatically wins, but it doesn't always work like that. If it did, then everyone would be flying sniper rokhs and nothing else.

P.S. The way I rigged it was to make fun of you for your insistence that blackbirds must have a 100km+ range.

I love how people keep saying ECM ships are fine because they have low tanks, apparently not realising that they're jamming at anything from 70-150+km. You'd be surprised how small an issue lack of tank is when you're that far out.

Also most proper ECM ships will still carry some buffer, my Falcon has something like 20k EHP which, while not award winning, is a long way from the "look at them funny and they explode" description people keep giving them.

You still do not get it there are already ships and modules out there that can counter the so called overpowered ECM crusiers.

Now yes i know you hate ECM and want nothing to do with it, but like i said earlier this idea will not be brought in due to the fact that it may make a small gang have a fighting chance against ECM, but as every ship in a gang will carry it it will make ECM useless in a large fleetp

I love watching stupid people argue with Duchess.

Sometimes you guys make it too easy for him.....but its always entertaining.

Please carry on.

ECM was nerfed, and atm needs no tweaking IMO

Gallente are the best Drone users whatsoever, making them actually pretty good against ecm in small gangs

And guess what, Caldaris specialisation is EWAR, and thus their ships have the most CPU and the best EWAR class

If you want to counter ecm, take a sensor boosting sensor dampener specialist with you

Well, if you want a reliable ecm counter, make a counter-ECM ECM fit, sensor booster for better si radius, caldari soecific jammers, and maybe use the kitsune to be a good and fast falcon or rook counter

however, the thing you want to do is make the ecm ships that are allready first target even more easy to kill though they atm have very little defense except their ecm, which after your kind of nerf will be totally useless as a defense and then suddenly the only EWAR completely useless solo

and about sensor dampening having too little range: 30km range and 60km falloff is not actually a bad range, and you can easily damp the targeting range of any ship to less then half its base targeting range with only two modules, and you dont need much time for your buddys to then get the drones attack the ecm ship

edit: and the best about sensor dampa is actually that they ARE reliable, they arent chance based at any way

This is a monumentally bad idea.

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ECM is easy to kill? That's news to me. Maybe I've just not seen enough brainless/unlucky ECM pilots. Their defence is range and to a lesser extent highslot point-defences and buffer. (And in the case of the Falcon, the cloak is a huge advantage).

Wouldn't this make every ship fit an ECM to jam their own logi? The logi would still be able to target what is jamming it, right? Actualiy, that is a good thing! Would buff the pilgrim/curse for fleet engagements.

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I love all the falcon tears here!
Buhuhu! Your falcon is no longer an invicible I-win button!

I look forward to flying an interceptor to point falcons in the future.

i did not say ecm was easy to kill, but if the fleet can get a lock on it, it IS first target and they will APPROACH you

and again: with your "fix" ecm ships wont have a value in solo fights

how are you planning to take out even support ships if the rest of the fleet kills you once they lock you?

and dont say 150km range will help against every threat there is, that is IF you are at 150km range, and not if you jump through a gate and are suddenly in an enemy fleet at 5 km range, dont state situations that are highly unlikely as a given

also, if you fit only fightability (buffer, speed) and no ecm power (ecm upgrades in lows, meds full of ecm modules) on a falcon, you are pretty useless for your fleet, because then you can only jam about 1-3 targets the whole time

In RL ECM is usual is done by blinding sensors by large amount of noise. While this prevents locking of normal targets it actually makes it easier to track jammer that is source of noise, so a typical modern anti air and anti ship active guided missiles are programmed to switch to passive mode if jammed and guide to source of jamming noise.

As an analogy I would suggest that ships targeted by ECM be allowed to lock on ships or drones that are attempting to use ECM on them, even if they are unable to lock any other target. Maybe even ECM targeted ships should get sensor range and resolution bonus against ships using ECM on them.

This would make ECM useless in solo ships but still useful in fleets to either take out enemy logistic ships or DPS ships that have gunn/missile range smeller then ECM range. In that way ECM would become equal to other EVE e-war methods in that it is useful only is specific situations and and against specific ships instead of instant overwhelming force multiplier that can be used against any ship (except supper capitals and titians).