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hammyhamm
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.05.22 16:14:00 -
[1]
We have positive placement, I think we need neutral and negative also.
Now to ironically give my thumbs-down topic a thumbs-up 
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Tolis Irithel
Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2008.05.22 16:15:00 -
[2]
Obvious /signing.
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Gorobom
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Posted - 2008.05.22 16:16:00 -
[3]
Edited by: Gorobom on 22/05/2008 16:20:43 Welp, I'm neutral. While it makes sense, that can create petty conflicts between threads and groups.
Edit: After some thinking, I decided to support.
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Shenko Minara
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Posted - 2008.05.22 16:18:00 -
[4]
I already said this somewhere else in this forum, so uh, yeah supporting this. -- 99% of Eve-o posters should stop posting. This probably includes me, but definitely includes you. |

Erotic Irony
0bsession
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Posted - 2008.05.22 16:19:00 -
[5]
Edited by: Erotic Irony on 22/05/2008 16:18:40 We need a sticky too so people don't just :frogbon: but leave the support box unchecked. ___ Eve Players are not very smart. Support Killmail Overhaul
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LASER WATCHER
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.05.22 16:19:00 -
[6]
HAM
ME
HAMMMMMM _____
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Heartstone
Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2008.05.22 16:19:00 -
[7]
Very defintly. The option to only agree to something is a terrible one.
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Davina Atarra
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Posted - 2008.05.22 16:20:00 -
[8]
Edited by: Davina Atarra on 22/05/2008 16:20:12 That's an idiot idea anyone with a brain can see this forum needs the ability to give a score out of 5 stars. Get a brain.
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Phrixus Zephyr
Prospero Incorperated
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Posted - 2008.05.22 16:23:00 -
[9]
Representing.
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Von Druid
Black Omega Security Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2008.05.22 16:25:00 -
[10]
Nothing else to say really.
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Jade Constantine
Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2008.05.22 16:26:00 -
[11]
Edited by: Jade Constantine on 22/05/2008 16:26:22 Agreed, we also need a polling statistic thingy at the top of the thread that lets people register support/opposition/bleh without actually having to post.
CSM Manifesto 2008 | Destroy Outposts! |

Zapatero
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Posted - 2008.05.22 16:43:00 -
[12]
Interesting that I wasn't allowed to vote, but can support issues. :)
- Z EON | blog |

Treelox
Market Jihadist Revolutionary Party
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Posted - 2008.05.22 16:49:00 -
[13]
indeed there should be a no and abstain option as well as a yes option that is already included. --
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Saju Somtaaw
Amarrian Religious Reformation Society Exalted
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Posted - 2008.05.22 16:50:00 -
[14]
I support this, as well as Jades suggestion for a quick and easy method of showing support without posting. ---- --- --- My views don't represent those of my corporation or alliance. |

Serenity Steele
Dynamic Data Distribution Ministry of Information
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Posted - 2008.05.22 16:51:00 -
[15]
Edited by: Serenity Steele on 22/05/2008 17:02:33 If the meaning of a thumbs up is simply support for the topic, for the purpose of gaining the 5% rule, then does this suggest that: 1) The character based thumbs up/down enables people to post 3 times per account. 2) There is no need for a thumbs-down because a thread because no thumbs = no support to force the vote through. 3) A thumb up down mechanism on a OP isn't sufficient, as the OP will just the topic, but doesn't address all the pros and cons listed by people replying.
A more advanced (and useful to the CSM) would be support for the views expressed in the posts. So the addition of a thumbs/down option on each post, or a rating system on the thread for useful posts.
 ≡v≡ Strategic Maps now in Eve-Online Store |

Herschel Yamamoto
Bloodmoney Incorporated
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Posted - 2008.05.22 16:59:00 -
[16]
Originally by: Jade Constantine Edited by: Jade Constantine on 22/05/2008 16:26:22 Agreed, we also need a polling statistic thingy at the top of the thread that lets people register support/opposition/bleh without actually having to post.
Agreed, both with OP and quoted. ------------------ Fix the forums! |

Piitaq
19th Star Logistics
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Posted - 2008.05.22 17:07:00 -
[17]
Good call
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Cailais
VITOC
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Posted - 2008.05.22 17:15:00 -
[18]
I second the motion. Or is it 96th the motion? Anyway - I agree.
C.
VITOC - Amarr Corp for Faction Warfare! |

Siona Windweaver
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Posted - 2008.05.22 17:22:00 -
[19]
I agree.
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Tadashi Nishimoto
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Posted - 2008.05.22 17:25:00 -
[20]
Yes.
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Kelsin
Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2008.05.22 17:26:00 -
[21]
Originally by: Serenity Steele Edited by: Serenity Steele on 22/05/2008 17:02:33 If the meaning of a thumbs up is simply support for the topic, for the purpose of gaining the 5% rule, then does this suggest that: 1) The character based thumbs up/down enables people to post 3 times per account. 2) There is no need for a thumbs-down because a thread because no thumbs = no support to force the vote through. 3) A thumb up down mechanism on a OP isn't sufficient, as the OP will just the topic, but doesn't address all the pros and cons listed by people replying.
Serenity I think the mechanism for forcing a vote may need looking at - if a thumbs down option were available a certain percentage of thumbs up vs. thumbs down could be required, once the vote reaches a certain threshhold.
That said, I think this thread topic serves as a general "issue" on the nature of this thumbs up thing, and so I support it as something the CSM should address.
Procedural matters like these are things this inaugural CSM could get squared away to make the whole concept of the CSM more meaningful and powerful for the future.
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Revan Neferis
Bloodveil BLOOD EMPIRE
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Posted - 2008.05.22 17:32:00 -
[22]
support the issue.
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Hrin
Merch Industrial GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.05.22 17:33:00 -
[23]
posting in support of irony.
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Seiver D'amross
Subach-Tech Warp to Desktop
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Posted - 2008.05.22 17:53:00 -
[24]
/sign _____________________________________________________ I shal stand tall and shake the heavens with my power |

Nyphur
Pillowsoft
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Posted - 2008.05.22 17:54:00 -
[25]
I like how the thumbs make us think our opinions matter in here at all :D
Eve-Tanking.com - We're sorry, something happened. |

Siigari Kitawa
The Aduro Protocol
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Posted - 2008.05.22 17:55:00 -
[26]
Originally by: Nyphur I like how the thumbs make us think our opinions matter in here at all :D
the :D at the end had me lolling in knots lmao
Supporting because I like to click the butan
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Walumachoncha SA
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.05.22 17:56:00 -
[27]
Yes, it is quite silly to only have a thumbs up if you can't give a thumbs down.
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shuckstar
Hauling hogs CryoGenesis Mining Syndicate
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Posted - 2008.05.22 17:57:00 -
[28]
Originally by: hammyhamm We have positive placement, I think we need neutral and negative also.
Now to ironically give my thumbs-down topic a thumbs-up 
Supportin this
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Waterfowl Democracy
The Ministry of Indigenous Affairs GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.05.22 17:58:00 -
[29]
I don't wish to support this idea. However, I have no way of NOT supporting this idea.
If only there was a way of thumbs downing an idea. 
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Why'dyou HitMe
Privateers Privateer Alliance
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Posted - 2008.05.22 18:50:00 -
[30]
SUPPORT
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Haakelen
United Forces
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Posted - 2008.05.22 18:51:00 -
[31]
Yeah
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Djuma Nihilist
Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2008.05.22 18:57:00 -
[32]
Signed
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Sunwillow Auryn
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Posted - 2008.05.22 18:57:00 -
[33]
/signed
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Voculus
E X O D U S Imperial Republic Of the North
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Posted - 2008.05.22 19:43:00 -
[34]
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Jalmari Huitsikko
Karjala Inc.
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Posted - 2008.05.22 19:44:00 -
[35]
more thumbs
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Akita T
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
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Posted - 2008.05.22 19:56:00 -
[36]
Originally by: hammyhamm We have positive placement, I think we need neutral and negative also.
Like I see it now, it seems that every post with "support" selected is +1 support, and every post without it selected is -1 support... no idea what goes on when people make a second/third post and so on, but it's creepy.
The "support / neutral / against" option should be a per-character and per-thread option, WITHOUT requiring a post at all, and should be able to be changed at any given time.
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Kazuo Ishiguro
House of Marbles Zzz
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Posted - 2008.05.22 20:10:00 -
[37]
Edited by: Kazuo Ishiguro on 22/05/2008 20:10:56 Edited by: Kazuo Ishiguro on 22/05/2008 20:10:06 I'm not sure about that - the can flipping thread has lots of people without 'thumbs up' icons next to their avatars, but it only has a score of -1 for some reason.
Also, changing my support for this thread took it from 30 to 31, so I'd say it's bugged. My research services Spreadsheets: Top speed calculation - Halo Implant stats |

Bad Harlequin
Chiroptera Factor
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Posted - 2008.05.22 20:20:00 -
[38]
Originally by: Zapatero Interesting that I wasn't allowed to vote, but can support issues. :)
- Z
I would hope so! Cutting out your opinion would be counterproductive.
I thought at first that "neutral" already has an option, called "not posting."  But i think a quick headcount of thumbs-down would be a good idea, if they're going to poll or track thumbs-up.
Originally by: Spider Jerusalem Show me your thumbs! *violence*
Zleip > very, and this is more or less a post of humor that seriousness =)
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Dani Leone
A Dark Cloud Unaffiliated
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Posted - 2008.05.22 20:36:00 -
[39]
/signed
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Pezzle
Imperial Dreams Curatores Veritatis Alliance
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Posted - 2008.05.22 20:45:00 -
[40]
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Damion Zyne
Des Esseintes Social Club
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Posted - 2008.05.22 20:53:00 -
[41]
Not signed.
Thumbs ups are for the 5% support rule.
We dont need a public poll on every issue brought up. |

Kirgan
Pyrognome
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Posted - 2008.05.22 20:56:00 -
[42]
I agree with the OP, a nay and neutral choice are also needed.
AlsoàMaking the choices in a poll format as opposed to with each post made every time you post in the same thread would be a more accurate way to gage the opinions.
Quote: A billion seconds ago it was 1959.
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Stellar Reaper
Viziam
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Posted - 2008.05.22 21:00:00 -
[43]
Absolutely! Some ideas can be really bad!! 
--------- Will work for your forzen corpses! |

Ishina Fel
Synergy. Imperial Republic Of the North
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Posted - 2008.05.22 21:07:00 -
[44]
Bad ideas should simply be left unsupported.
No reason in allowing trolls to damage the support numbers on good ideas.
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Scoop de'Woop
X Bane X
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Posted - 2008.05.22 22:30:00 -
[45]
Seems like something they actively had to think about not doing to me.
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Tareen Kashaar
Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2008.05.22 22:42:00 -
[46]
I am in complete agreement with the issue raised in the OP. ____________
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Ephemeral Waves
Federation of Freedom Fighters
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Posted - 2008.05.22 23:21:00 -
[47]
obvious
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Stakhanov
Metafarmers
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Posted - 2008.05.22 23:28:00 -
[48]
Pretty much.
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Bad Harlequin
Chiroptera Factor
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Posted - 2008.05.23 01:07:00 -
[49]
Originally by: Ishina Fel Bad ideas should simply be left unsupported.
No reason in allowing trolls to damage the support numbers on good ideas.
in the current mechanism can't they do that by making 34534 posts in thread, thumbless? Or no?
Zleip > very, and this is more or less a post of humor that seriousness =)
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Suitonia
interimo
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Posted - 2008.05.23 02:20:00 -
[50]
Supporting :) --- I've always wondered about those Vagabond pilots... |
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Sakura Nihil
Stimulus
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Posted - 2008.05.23 03:08:00 -
[51]
Fair enough, really.
Goal Line Blitz, an American Football MMO |

Teclis van'Dreike
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.05.23 05:58:00 -
[52]

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Locin WeEda
Red Frog Investments Blue Sky Consortium
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Posted - 2008.05.23 06:04:00 -
[53]
I support this. Red Frog Freight Service
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Reven Zero
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Posted - 2008.05.23 06:55:00 -
[54]
/signed
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Scagga Laebetrovo
Delictum 23216 San Matari.
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Posted - 2008.05.23 07:28:00 -
[55]
Oooh    I wonder what'll happen if it's granted!
San Matari Official forums |

Rawr Cristina
Naqam Project Alice.
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Posted - 2008.05.23 07:30:00 -
[56]
totally /signed ...
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Arshes Nei
Omega Fleet Enterprises Executive Outcomes
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Posted - 2008.05.23 07:31:00 -
[57]
Edited by: Arshes Nei on 23/05/2008 07:32:19 This and the no post needed to support idea.
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Joshua Foiritain
Reikoku Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.05.23 08:01:00 -
[58]
/signed
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J'Mkarr Soban
Proxenetae Invicti
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Posted - 2008.05.23 08:31:00 -
[59]
-- These are my personal views and in no way represent the views of Proxenetae Invicti, which maintains a neutral stance stemming from the strong ethics demanded of its work. |

Max Teranous
Teranous Productions
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Posted - 2008.05.23 09:10:00 -
[60]
I was just thinking this after looking at some of the stupid issues people have already brought up.
Max 
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Poreuomai
Mirkur Draug'Tyr
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Posted - 2008.05.23 11:14:00 -
[61]
yep - need a NO option.
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The PitBoss
Interstellar Brotherhood of Gravediggers Privateer Alliance
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Posted - 2008.05.23 11:47:00 -
[62]
signed
Thanks,
PB
Siggys and Banners by: Kalen Vox |

Shade Millith
Knights Of the Black Sun Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2008.05.23 12:07:00 -
[63]
/signed
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Hamish Grayson
Caldari Independent Navy Reserve The Fourth District
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Posted - 2008.05.23 13:00:00 -
[64]
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It is said the warrior's is the twofold way of pen and sword |

Tarminic
Black Flame Industries
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Posted - 2008.05.23 13:24:00 -
[65]
Agreed. ---------------- Play EVE: Downtime Madness v0.81 (Updated 4/8) |

Dav Varan
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Posted - 2008.05.23 13:27:00 -
[66]
thumbs down required to show disagreement please |

Helison
Times of Ancar Pure.
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Posted - 2008.05.23 13:31:00 -
[67]
This is needed for sure, this way the CSM will get a better picture of the scope of an issue. And if one playergroup really thinks to vote against one topic, the CSM still sees the thumbs-up and can decide themself. |

Pliauga
Militek Industries
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Posted - 2008.05.24 09:38:00 -
[68]
I don't really understand why would we need neutral. If you are neutral just don't reply. The negative makes lots of sense though.
---------- DRONE love rulez!! 'mkay?! LONG range/"OUT OF SYSTEM" artillery |

White Ronin
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Posted - 2008.05.24 09:40:00 -
[69]
yes
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Ethaet
Aliastra
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Posted - 2008.05.24 13:05:00 -
[70]
/signed -------------------------------------------------------------- Seriously, we need some kind of separation between the post and signature. There you go. Now that wasn't so hard  |
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Xanja
2H Industries
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Posted - 2008.05.24 13:13:00 -
[71]
yep ----------------- |

Master Akira
Eve University Ivy League
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Posted - 2008.05.24 14:39:00 -
[72]
Agreed
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Zaepho
Advanced Logistics Empire
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Posted - 2008.05.24 16:52:00 -
[73]
Want to make a difference in the economy? Join the Party! eve-politico.net |

Garr Anders
Eve University Ivy League
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Posted - 2008.05.24 18:12:00 -
[74]
In addition to a neutral and thumbs down, a summary of the total "votes" thumb up/down and neutral vs the total post count would be good. That way you can see also how much is discussion vs votes only. ----- Garr Anders
"The only winning move is not to play" is about the best damn advice anyone can get regarding arguing over the internet. - referring to the Movie WarGames 1983
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jade ronin
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Posted - 2008.05.24 18:16:00 -
[75]
agreed
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Alphrenel
The Black Rabbits
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Posted - 2008.05.24 23:55:00 -
[76]
/signed and agreed ___________________________________ Best regards, ALPR CEO Alphrenel
Alphrenel Productions - making nice videos for everyone! |

Kuranta
Pator Tech School
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Posted - 2008.05.25 00:15:00 -
[77]
Originally by: Serenity Steele Edited by: Serenity Steele on 22/05/2008 17:02:33 If the meaning of a thumbs up is simply support for the topic, for the purpose of gaining the 5% rule, then does this suggest that: 1) The character based thumbs up/down enables people to post 3 times per account. 2) There is no need for a thumbs-down because a thread because no thumbs = no support to force the vote through. 3) A thumb up down mechanism on a OP isn't sufficient, as the OP will just the topic, but doesn't address all the pros and cons listed by people replying.
A more advanced (and useful to the CSM) would be support for the views expressed in the posts. So the addition of a thumbs/down option on each post, or a rating system on the thread for useful posts.
This tbh.
A thumbs down negate thumbs up would lead to alt poster "thumb-wars". (yes, thumb wrestling can also be called thumb war)
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Judas Jones
Black Company
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Posted - 2008.05.25 00:39:00 -
[78]
Can only get people into the swing ot it
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Soleil Fournier
AWE Corporation Intrepid Crossing
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Posted - 2008.05.25 01:17:00 -
[79]
agree w/ OP
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Gwendion
No Quarter. Imperial Republic Of the North
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Posted - 2008.05.25 02:15:00 -
[80]
Support. -----------------------------------
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Ameliorate
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Posted - 2008.05.25 02:25:00 -
[81]
Good idea but this would have to be implemented carefully to prevent large corps from nuking any issue they don't agree with.
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BlondieBC
7th Tribal Legion
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Posted - 2008.05.25 03:01:00 -
[82]
yep, tis needed
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Fadu Varon
Eve University Ivy League
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Posted - 2008.05.25 03:15:00 -
[83]
Here's a yes for the 'no' checkbox. |

Kuga Kita
Veto Corp
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Posted - 2008.05.25 03:42:00 -
[84]
Originally by: Jade Constantine Edited by: Jade Constantine on 22/05/2008 16:26:22 Agreed, we also need a polling statistic thingy at the top of the thread that lets people register support/opposition/bleh without actually having to post.
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MrClock
Ars ex Discordia GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.05.25 03:58:00 -
[85]
I was going to post this thread 
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Slickdrac
JET FORCE Ka-Tet
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Posted - 2008.05.25 07:09:00 -
[86]
Obviously, with the thumbs up implementation only, CCP has shown us this is all a PR stunt. They just want a bunch of yes men, no disagreement allowed 
Obviously I jest, and I support this completely I suck at forums |

Ren Tales
Crimson Flag
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Posted - 2008.05.25 09:49:00 -
[87]
---- Want to learn how to yar? Want to teach young pirates? Crimson Flag is Recruiting
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Che Biko
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Posted - 2008.05.25 11:50:00 -
[88]
Although I wouldn't give a thumbs down here.... Thumbs up!
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Xofii
Hedion University
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Posted - 2008.05.25 19:59:00 -
[89]
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Tenebrion Darkness
Viziam
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Posted - 2008.05.25 23:38:00 -
[90]
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Cpt Branko
Surge. NIght's Dawn
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Posted - 2008.05.26 00:59:00 -
[91]
/signed Sig removed, inappropriate link. If you would like further details please mail [email protected] ~Saint |

AtomizerX
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Posted - 2008.05.26 01:57:00 -
[92]
You'd think they would have had these options in the first place; it's a major oversight. Thumbs up!
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M4g3ll4n
Circle of Shadows
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Posted - 2008.05.26 10:50:00 -
[93]
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KillerOfMen
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Posted - 2008.05.26 11:15:00 -
[94]
This should have been clear from the beginning.
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Brigitte Helm
Flying Fox Industries
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Posted - 2008.05.26 12:23:00 -
[95]
signed Hug a Carebear, Kill a pirate, squish a Rat, and tickle a dev.
Make Eve fun.... |

Katrina Bekers
Sudo Magodo Corp
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Posted - 2008.05.26 13:47:00 -
[96]
Edited by: Katrina Bekers on 26/05/2008 13:47:19 My support for the unsupport feature. Let the referendum votes work as a referendum. -- Kate :: Dept. Foreign Relations :: Sudo Magodo Corp. |

Jelek Coro
Art of War Cruel Intentions
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Posted - 2008.05.26 14:31:00 -
[97]
definately need a thumbs down option!!!
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Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises Otherworld Empire
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Posted - 2008.05.26 15:29:00 -
[98]
I support that.
Secure 3rd party service ■ Do you Veldspar? |
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Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises Otherworld Empire
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Posted - 2008.05.26 15:30:00 -
[99]
Edited by: Chribba on 26/05/2008 15:30:42
Secure 3rd party service ■ Do you Veldspar? |
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Eirikk
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Posted - 2008.05.29 14:13:00 -
[100]
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Kalinda Veldrin
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Posted - 2008.05.29 15:55:00 -
[101]
I fully support this issue.
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Grarr Dexx
Naval Protection Corp Carpe Universitas
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Posted - 2008.05.29 23:29:00 -
[102]
Vote yes, deny the Assembly Hall to become a breeding ground for the vocal minority!
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Cergorach
The Helix Foundation
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Posted - 2008.05.29 23:49:00 -
[103]
Agreed, I like to disagree just as much as I like to agree...
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Czanthria
Ad Astra Vexillum
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Posted - 2008.05.30 04:52:00 -
[104]
Edited by: Czanthria on 30/05/2008 04:52:33 Hmm... how would people disagree with this topic? Paradox... -- Knowledge is Power! |

Shnergin
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Posted - 2008.06.01 23:04:00 -
[105]
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xOm3gAx
Stain of Mind
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Posted - 2008.06.01 23:16:00 -
[106]

Originally by: CCP Abraxas Her boyfriend's way hot, too; tall and tanned. And I say this as a very hetero male who doesn't ever dream of the man on cold, dark nights.
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Buck Starchaser
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Posted - 2008.06.02 07:46:00 -
[107]
This is an oversight that needs to be corrected ASAP. I should be able to show my disgust with an idea without relying on someone to actually read my post out of the pages of other ones that are generally shorter than mine and therefore easier to barely read and then dissreguard.
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Theramin Dogon
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.06.06 00:59:00 -
[108]
hammyhammyhammyhammyhammyhammyhammyhammyhammyhammyhammyhammyhammyhammyhammyhammyhammyhammyhammyhammyhammyhammyhammyhammyhammyhammyhammyhammyhammyhamm |

Forkrul
Ministry of War
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Posted - 2008.06.06 04:41:00 -
[109]
Originally by: Ameliorate Good idea but this would have to be implemented carefully to prevent large corps from nuking any issue they don't agree with.
This is the most important post in this thread. Just thought quoting would put emphasis on this.
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SocialPolice
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Posted - 2008.06.06 06:35:00 -
[110]
Originally by: hammyhamm We have positive placement, I think we need neutral and negative also.
Now to ironically give my thumbs-down topic a thumbs-up 
Shut up Goon.
No one but your lot cares about grading forum postings.
Does this really need 100 threads?
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Elsebeth Rhiannon
Gradient Electus Matari
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Posted - 2008.06.06 11:32:00 -
[111]
Yea, definitely.
-- Help us defend the Republic; join Gradient today.
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Savesti Kyrsst
White-Noise
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Posted - 2008.06.06 19:09:00 -
[112]
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Aralis
Imperial Dreams Curatores Veritatis Alliance
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Posted - 2008.06.07 16:32:00 -
[113]
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Phantom Slave
Mozzaki United
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Posted - 2008.06.07 18:21:00 -
[114]
Support. ____________________
Trinity is beautiful! I love you CCP!!! |

craphound
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Posted - 2008.06.10 21:55:00 -
[115]
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Spurty
The Pikey Rebellion II
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Posted - 2008.06.10 22:36:00 -
[116]
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Kwint Sommer
Lothian Quay Industries
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Posted - 2008.06.11 09:02:00 -
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Originally by: Zapatero Interesting that I wasn't allowed to vote, but can support issues. :)
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MirrorGod
Heretic Army Heretic Nation
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Posted - 2008.06.11 11:03:00 -
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Supported
Recruitment: [ANTI]
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Dippin Dots
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Posted - 2008.06.11 11:23:00 -
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Edited by: Dippin Dots on 11/06/2008 11:27:39 Instead of the little hand icon, there needs to be a small 3-item bar graph. Bars in red, yellow and green, with one number under the graph to display the entire number of votes cast. Very simple and easy to understand at a glance.
And the current system actually defies the original intent of the document, it is not anonymous.
Originally by: CSM.pdf
To further support the introduction of ideas from society members, a forum mechanism will be introduced which allows topics to be ômarked for resolutionö, ensuring that the matter is brought before the CSMCSM. Using their own judgement, Representatives will have the power to mark topics as they deem necessaryùnamely by gauging which issues voters are generating the most debate about. Once a topic is marked, voters will be able to indicate their support or disproval anonymously1. Just as with the general election, the system will also prevent individuals from voting more than once on the topic.
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Dru McCarty
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Posted - 2008.06.18 22:42:00 -
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Edited by: Dru McCarty on 18/06/2008 22:42:05 I vote "Yes" on option #332, only because it is the only option. ( A "No" option would help employ more bumpersticker manufacturing workers - Am I the only guy going around with a "Vote yes on referrendum #xxxx on their raven?)
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Jinx Barker
GFB Scientific
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Posted - 2008.06.19 02:18:00 -
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Edited by: Jinx Barker on 19/06/2008 02:17:49 Agreeing with the Goonie...the world is coming to an end.... 
Yes, thank you, we need thumbs down.
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Acidictadpole
ADVANCED Combat and Engineering
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Posted - 2008.06.19 05:24:00 -
[122]
ABSTAIN!
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Raoden Choco
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Posted - 2008.06.19 08:03:00 -
[123]
Should have been here since the start
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Tmarte
Explora Empire Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2008.06.19 15:03:00 -
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The reason there is no Thumbs Down option is simple. It's a petition. No it's not a poll or a ballot, or something we are voting on. It's simply to get the CSM to discuss it, and for them to possibly raise the issue with CCP.
When you raise a petition, you usually just need a person who sponsors the idea, and a supporting vote. You don't go around asking for people who are against it.
Also, when people go door to door to have you sign a petition either for a politician to get on the ballot, or for an issue to get on the ballot, you sign your name in support of it. I don't remember there being a line where you sign if you don't support it. It's simple, if you don't agree with the Issue at hand, you simply don't sign the petition.
The issues in this forum are not up for discussion within this forum. No discussion should be taking place. It's very simple, sign the petition and move along. If you don't want to sign the petition don't. It's not a vote, it's not a poll, it's a petition. This thread should be deleted as it's implying the issues at hand are being voted for, and they are not they are simple petitions. Remember that even by getting enough votes for the CSM to discuss, there still is no guarantee that CCP will even adopt it if the CSM decided to bring it up for discussion with CCP.
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Zarlis
The Scope
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Posted - 2008.06.27 01:51:00 -
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Edited by: Zarlis on 27/06/2008 01:52:02 Yes we really need a thumbs down option. There is some crap ideas getting peddled here that need banishing so that ccp don't even contemplate them
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Demtalin le'Mercennaire
The Arrow Project Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2008.06.27 04:11:00 -
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Edited by: Demtalin le''Mercennaire on 27/06/2008 04:12:05 On 2nd thought, I'd like to have the option to post a thumbs down too, but that we still have to post to show support, if you care about the issue, you wont mind if people know what you think on it. -------- Billy Jean is not my lover |

Zaran Darkstar
Brutor tribe
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Posted - 2008.06.27 08:01:00 -
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steejans nix
0beron Construct
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Posted - 2008.06.27 11:59:00 -
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Edited by: steejans nix on 27/06/2008 11:59:49
Originally by: Tmarte When you raise a petition, you usually just need a person who sponsors the idea, and a supporting vote. You don't go around asking for people who are against it.
But if a thumbs down was implemented it may stop the thread being turned into a free for all with people baiting and de-railing the subject which also is not a petition !!
Umm... forgot to support !!
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Neth'Rae
Decorum Inc Tygris Alliance
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Posted - 2008.06.27 18:36:00 -
[129]
Request signatures at EVE-GFX |

ErrhuhBlaman
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Posted - 2008.06.27 19:38:00 -
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/signed
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Tmarte
Caldari Explora Empire Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2008.06.28 08:34:00 -
[131]
Originally by: steejans nix Edited by: steejans nix on 27/06/2008 11:59:49
Originally by: Tmarte When you raise a petition, you usually just need a person who sponsors the idea, and a supporting vote. You don't go around asking for people who are against it.
But if a thumbs down was implemented it may stop the thread being turned into a free for all with people baiting and de-railing the subject which also is not a petition !!
Umm... forgot to support !!
People shouldn't be using these threads to discuss the issues in the first place......... if you don't support an idea then don't post/derail/bait the thread. Simple as that.
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Soulita
Inner Core
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Posted - 2008.06.30 02:55:00 -
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Edited by: Soulita on 30/06/2008 02:55:06 Yup.
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Aloriana Jacques
Royal Amarr Institute
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Posted - 2008.06.30 08:04:00 -
[133]
Just institute a proper poll system with 3 options of Yay/Obstain/Nay that appears at the start of the thread(over the first post) and outside of it.
But overall, I support this idea. |

Bazzat
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Posted - 2008.06.30 11:49:00 -
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Originally by: Serenity Steele Edited by: Serenity Steele on 22/05/2008 17:02:33 If the meaning of a thumbs up is simply support for the topic, for the purpose of gaining the 5% rule, then does this suggest that: 1) The character based thumbs up/down enables people to post 3 times per account. 2) There is no need for a thumbs-down because a thread because no thumbs = no support to force the vote through. 3) A thumb up down mechanism on a OP isn't sufficient, as the OP will just the topic, but doesn't address all the pros and cons listed by people replying.
A more advanced (and useful to the CSM) would be support for the views expressed in the posts. So the addition of a thumbs/down option on each post, or a rating system on the thread for useful posts.
Sound like sensible suggestions - at the very least you need more than the single 'yes' vote we can have now |

Nilder Shadowfiyah
3rd Millennium Group
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Posted - 2008.07.07 12:40:00 -
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Thumbs down - AYE Neutral - No way if you are a neut then abstinence is best!
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Rodj Blake
PIE Inc.
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Posted - 2008.07.07 13:23:00 -
[136]
Thumbs up for the thumbs down.
Dulce et decorum est pro imperium mori.
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Dianabolic
Reikoku Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.07.07 13:37:00 -
[137]
It is awful by its omission.
Signed. Reikoku Diplomatic Forums
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Tzujeih
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.07.07 18:51:00 -
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Marcus Gideon
Excessive Force
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Posted - 2008.07.23 12:10:00 -
[139]
bump ---
Don't take my rantings personally. I may just be arguing the topic... unless you're saying something stupid, and then I mean every word. |

Gabriel Darkefyre
Crystal Ship
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Posted - 2008.07.23 17:05:00 -
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Edited by: Gabriel Darkefyre on 23/07/2008 17:06:29 Posting to support this idea and also to bring this back to the front for the guys opening new topics about this very issue.
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Captator
Universal Securities
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Posted - 2008.07.23 17:09:00 -
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should be simple to add, every other forum I have ever been on has it 
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Lieutenant Isis
Gristle Industries
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Posted - 2008.07.23 17:31:00 -
[142]
No need. The support is used to determine if the issue should be brought up, negatives would have no bearing.
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Junkie Beverage
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.07.23 18:42:00 -
[143]
d(^_^)b
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Aeo IV
Xomic OmniCorporation
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Posted - 2008.07.23 18:43:00 -
[144]
signed
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Azzma
Viziam
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Posted - 2008.07.24 08:44:00 -
[145]
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Tlar Sanqua
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Posted - 2008.07.24 10:02:00 -
[146]
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Molpadia Devaux
Excessive Intoxication
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Posted - 2008.07.24 12:18:00 -
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I understand this is a form of petition. If the council did opinion polls on a proposal to test the measure of support across the spectrum of players, the system as designed would be good.
However, as implemented, some very bad ideas could meet the requirement for discussion. Many items that have little or no support if the Eve community at large. To help the council get a better idea of the level of support, there should be poll, or a 3 option choice. Yes ( I support ), Abstain/present I have seen the question and have no strong opinions either way, and No, I do not support the idea.
This would allow the council to set priorities in disscussions about a pettition. A 300 positive, 2 abstain and 10 opposed should get higher priority than a question with 300 for, 200 abstain and 299 opposed.
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Dihania
SniggWaffe
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Posted - 2008.07.24 12:23:00 -
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