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![Sarin Adler Sarin Adler](https://images.evetech.net/characters/533275486/portrait?size=64)
Sarin Adler
Caldari
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Posted - 2008.09.10 15:39:00 -
[181]
Thanks for the tip, gotta dow2nload the newest drivers now then. ---
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![Lyria Skydancer Lyria Skydancer](https://images.evetech.net/characters/113476832/portrait?size=64)
Lyria Skydancer
Amarr Eve Defence Force
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Posted - 2008.09.11 18:55:00 -
[182]
the 8-8 has been out since 20th august. I tried it already on the 22nd august with no luck. Still same problem. ----------------------------------------- [Video] Support Barrage |
![VicturusTeSaluto VicturusTeSaluto](https://images.evetech.net/characters/821718572/portrait?size=64)
VicturusTeSaluto
Metafarmers
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Posted - 2008.09.15 23:38:00 -
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Edited by: VicturusTeSaluto on 15/09/2008 23:39:05 So I bit the bullet and got a really good deal on an upgrade, decided to get new mobo/cpu/memory and hope everything works out. It's been a few days and so far, so good...
I got:
Phenom 9850 BE Gigabyte GA-MA78GM-S2H 2x2GB DDR2 Kingston HyperX
The rest of my hardware is the same, including videocard. Now while I can't say I've had enough playtime to confirm that I'm no longer having the issue- I haven't had it yet. So hopefully(for me) and possibly this is only occurring with certain chipsets or such? Or is anyone with issues using a mobo with PCI-E 2.0?
It's too bad that only such a small amount of the players will ever read this thread. If there were people with hardware that worked out with this card, we wouldn't ever hear about it.
I'm keeping my fingers crossed, would like to be able to use some nice stuff without near complete certainty of losing it to a technical issue.
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![Sarin Adler Sarin Adler](https://images.evetech.net/characters/533275486/portrait?size=64)
Sarin Adler
Caldari
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Posted - 2008.09.18 16:41:00 -
[184]
Originally by: VicturusTeSaluOr is anyone with issues using a mobo with PCI-E 2.0?[/quote
Well, I still have problems and I'm usign a mobo with pce-e 2.0, a shame really, I can't pew pew at all, I've to fly zoomed in and it sucks getting aware of the situation really at gates.
Please, fix this damnit.
P.S: CCP wins maybe, I'm considering buying a new graphic card I'm getting tired of this annoying bug. ---
Alts, the root of all evil.
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![Raabe Raabe](https://images.evetech.net/characters/1247208690/portrait?size=64)
Raabe
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Posted - 2008.09.23 12:22:00 -
[185]
hi there, i get these gate freezes too. exact the same problem.
my pc: athlon64 dual core 4200+ 2gb ram windows xp pro, sp2 geforce 7300, 512mb
and i play classic eve content.
all drivers are up to date. turn off/on sound, changing resolution, grafik setting,... nothing works. get still gate freezes.
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![Lyria Skydancer Lyria Skydancer](https://images.evetech.net/characters/113476832/portrait?size=64)
Lyria Skydancer
Amarr Developmental Neogenics Amalgamated
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Posted - 2008.09.24 20:01:00 -
[186]
Still not fixed. Ive done everything theyve told me. Cleared cache etc, reinstalled everything. Now, no answer for days in bugreport. I wish they would atleast tell me they are looking into it if they are and not just throwing me basic fixes that have nothing to do with the issue that dont even work. ----------------------------------------- [Video] Support Barrage |
![Leelo Atriedes Leelo Atriedes](https://images.evetech.net/characters/1426014821/portrait?size=64)
Leelo Atriedes
Amarr Viziam
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Posted - 2008.09.25 11:36:00 -
[187]
Edited by: Leelo Atriedes on 25/09/2008 13:14:16 This may, or may not, be part of this issue:
Faulty Radeon 3800-series cards shipped
"All cards lack power management features; the 3850s were identified to have quality issues with poor soldering and integrated memory problems while the 3870s were delivered with a wrong resistor value, which can result in computers not starting up and system crashes."
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![VicturusTeSaluto VicturusTeSaluto](https://images.evetech.net/characters/821718572/portrait?size=64)
VicturusTeSaluto
Metafarmers
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Posted - 2008.09.25 21:52:00 -
[188]
Do you have any reasoning behind this leap?
All I see in this article is shitty card makers making shitty cards. No surprise there. Every Sapphire card I've ever had has failed prematurely and I doubt the other mentioned brand is any better. Also, never buy Sapphire- their customer service is ran in china and they will most likely NOT let you RMA the card even when it fails under "warranty"
You posted an article about broad failures with specific brands of card. Not all 38xx cards.
The cards aren't defective. They work under far more demanding conditions. They work with everything but EVE. They work fine in EVE except around gates. It is the code.
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![Leelo Atriedes Leelo Atriedes](https://images.evetech.net/characters/1426014821/portrait?size=64)
Leelo Atriedes
Amarr Viziam
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Posted - 2008.09.25 22:30:00 -
[189]
Originally by: VicturusTeSaluto Do you have any reasoning behind this leap?
Originally by: Leelo Atriedes
This may, or may not, be part of this issue:
Elementary Sherlock, that's why I put the above sentence first.
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![VicturusTeSaluto VicturusTeSaluto](https://images.evetech.net/characters/821718572/portrait?size=64)
VicturusTeSaluto
Metafarmers
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Posted - 2008.09.25 22:41:00 -
[190]
so you can put that disclaimer first and then try to make any kind of argument afterwords? ![Rolling Eyes](/images/icon_rolleyes.gif)
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![Leelo Atriedes Leelo Atriedes](https://images.evetech.net/characters/1426014821/portrait?size=64)
Leelo Atriedes
Amarr Viziam
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Posted - 2008.09.25 22:51:00 -
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Originally by: VicturusTeSaluto so you can put that disclaimer first and then try to make any kind of argument afterwords? ![Rolling Eyes](/images/icon_rolleyes.gif)
You choose to see it that way. I made the response with the intention that it may help at least somebody with the issues in this and similar threads.
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![Zasta Krockett Zasta Krockett](https://images.evetech.net/characters/663110553/portrait?size=64)
Zasta Krockett
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Posted - 2008.09.26 00:11:00 -
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got a little bit help - maybe - or i imagine that :) i have turned all effects off (turret, missile, ...) and set cache size to "off". now i can travel distances about 5-7 jumps without gate freezes. but then it freezes again. but better then freeze at every or every secound gate. BUT this is not the final solution!
eve is almost unplayable for a lot of PAYING customers! - not only this bug. island people up your buttoms. don't use our money for useless things like fanfests or empyrian-faction-warfare-grap-contant-updates. simply get the game running! please fix this, or can with have our money back? :) it's like i am going to the fuel station, and only water came out of the pump! or maybe unsatisfied ccp custumers should do a really big lament. maybe at a american court? million dollars for every not done but payed work... just joking, or? welcome to the service desert mmorpg! fix it please.
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![Lyria Skydancer Lyria Skydancer](https://images.evetech.net/characters/113476832/portrait?size=64)
Lyria Skydancer
Amarr Developmental Neogenics Amalgamated
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Posted - 2008.09.26 09:33:00 -
[193]
Edited by: Lyria Skydancer on 26/09/2008 09:35:07 Edited by: Lyria Skydancer on 26/09/2008 09:34:29
Originally by: Leelo Atriedes Edited by: Leelo Atriedes on 25/09/2008 13:14:16 This may, or may not, be part of this issue:
Faulty Radeon 3800-series cards shipped
"All cards lack power management features; the 3850s were identified to have quality issues with poor soldering and integrated memory problems while the 3870s were delivered with a wrong resistor value, which can result in computers not starting up and system crashes."
Honestly, are you working for ccp?
How do you explain that BOTH my HD3870 cards are not working with eve but with ALL, let me repeat ALL, other games on max settings. How the heck do you explain that a game mechanic in eve triggers this. Have you any knowlege of computers? EVERYTHING points to eve code making these cards crash. Oh and if you read closer there are people that dont have 38 series that are also experiencing the SAME problem. You cant shove this away. Stop posting nonsense that doesnt help.
Yes Im angry because my bugreport is now being ignored for days and weeks after they went through all the stupid stuff like "clear cache and update drivers". Im angry because I cant play the fully eventhough Im paying for it and ccp does not have the courtesy to say "we are looking into it and not just giving you stupid suggestions on what to do we know dont work". I want them to ****ing admit this is their fault and that they are TRYING to do something about it. ----------------------------------------- [Video] Support Barrage |
![Leelo Atriedes Leelo Atriedes](https://images.evetech.net/characters/1426014821/portrait?size=64)
Leelo Atriedes
Amarr Viziam
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Posted - 2008.09.26 12:50:00 -
[194]
Originally by: Lyria Skydancer
Honestly, are you working for ccp?
How do you explain that BOTH my HD3870 cards are not working with eve but with ALL, let me repeat ALL, other games on max settings. How the heck do you explain that a game mechanic in eve triggers this. Have you any knowlege of computers? EVERYTHING points to eve code making these cards crash. Oh and if you read closer there are people that dont have 38 series that are also experiencing the SAME problem. You cant shove this away. Stop posting nonsense that doesnt help.
Yes Im angry because my bugreport is now being ignored for days and weeks after they went through all the stupid stuff like "clear cache and update drivers". Im angry because I cant play the fully eventhough Im paying for it and ccp does not have the courtesy to say "we are looking into it and not just giving you stupid suggestions on what to do we know dont work". I want them to ****ing admit this is their fault and that they are TRYING to do something about it.
Oh btw I DO NOT HAVE DIAMOND.
I think you've asked that before. No, I don't.
Other than that, Linkage
Judging by the rare instances of any CCP responses here, I'd say you be better of pursuing your bug reports - this forum doesn't bring your case forward the slightest.
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![Lyria Skydancer Lyria Skydancer](https://images.evetech.net/characters/113476832/portrait?size=64)
Lyria Skydancer
Amarr Developmental Neogenics Amalgamated
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Posted - 2008.09.26 21:05:00 -
[195]
Originally by: Leelo Atriedes
Judging by the rare instances of any CCP responses here, I'd say you be better of pursuing your bug reports - this forum doesn't bring your case forward the slightest.
When my bugreport is getting ignored for days and weeks you suggest me going where, if not here? Seriously. ----------------------------------------- [Video] Support Barrage |
![Leelo Atriedes Leelo Atriedes](https://images.evetech.net/characters/1426014821/portrait?size=64)
Leelo Atriedes
Amarr Viziam
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Posted - 2008.09.26 21:58:00 -
[196]
Originally by: Lyria Skydancer
Originally by: Leelo Atriedes
Judging by the rare instances of any CCP responses here, I'd say you be better of pursuing your bug reports - this forum doesn't bring your case forward the slightest.
When my bugreport is getting ignored for days and weeks you suggest me going where, if not here? Seriously.
As this is not the proper channel to handle petitions and bug reports, no.
But as a last resort, yes.
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![Lyria Skydancer Lyria Skydancer](https://images.evetech.net/characters/113476832/portrait?size=64)
Lyria Skydancer
Amarr Developmental Neogenics Amalgamated
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Posted - 2008.09.30 11:17:00 -
[197]
Edited by: Lyria Skydancer on 30/09/2008 11:17:31 Latest news: Finally an answer came from the bureporting team. They say they are aware of this problem and the bugreport is now "attached to a defect" status and is being tracked in their defect tracking system. Now we can hope they find the solution. |
![Leelo Atriedes Leelo Atriedes](https://images.evetech.net/characters/1426014821/portrait?size=64)
Leelo Atriedes
Amarr Viziam
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Posted - 2008.09.30 13:49:00 -
[198]
Originally by: Lyria Skydancer Edited by: Lyria Skydancer on 30/09/2008 11:17:31 Latest news: Finally an answer came from the bureporting team. They say they are aware of this problem and the bugreport is now "attached to a defect" status and is being tracked in their defect tracking system. Now we can hope they find the solution.
Great, at least some sign of progress. Let's all hope the solution ain't too far away... |
![Lyria Skydancer Lyria Skydancer](https://images.evetech.net/characters/113476832/portrait?size=64)
Lyria Skydancer
Amarr Developmental Neogenics Amalgamated
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Posted - 2008.10.06 03:55:00 -
[199]
Still not fixed... ----------------------------------------- [Video] Support Barrage |
![VicturusTeSaluto VicturusTeSaluto](https://images.evetech.net/characters/821718572/portrait?size=64)
VicturusTeSaluto
Metafarmers
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Posted - 2008.10.07 08:29:00 -
[200]
the bug report system is useless and the bug hunters don't speak for ccp. They told me it was attached to a defect many months ago. They are just ignoring you. I'd advise you to either stop paying ccp or get some new hardware, sell or trade your current gear if you can.
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![Lyria Skydancer Lyria Skydancer](https://images.evetech.net/characters/113476832/portrait?size=64)
Lyria Skydancer
Amarr Developmental Neogenics Amalgamated
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Posted - 2008.10.07 12:28:00 -
[201]
Originally by: VicturusTeSaluto the bug report system is useless and the bug hunters don't speak for ccp. They told me it was attached to a defect many months ago. They are just ignoring you. I'd advise you to either stop paying ccp or get some new hardware, sell or trade your current gear if you can.
Wow, that is [insert long ugly word]. ----------------------------------------- [Video] Support Barrage |
![Jug McKenzie Jug McKenzie](https://images.evetech.net/characters/258299704/portrait?size=64)
Jug McKenzie
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Posted - 2008.10.09 23:27:00 -
[202]
I'm having the same issue and am somewhat relieved to find its not an isolated problem! I've had intermittent issues ever since having my HD 3870 x2. I've tried multiple cards with and without crossfire enabled and still have the same problems with eve (and not with any other application/game).
I can't say my experience is linked specifically to gate fire events but can't rule that out (I just haven't associated the two). What I have noticed is that as I have upgraded drivers from the set that was shipped to the current Catalysy 8.9 version, is that the behaviour of the defect is different:
Originally the display driver seemed to fail, with the screen going black and the card fans going to 100%. Windows (Vista 32) would still run fine and I could talk on TS, but had to reboot for the display to recover.
Subsequently (after a few driver updates), the problem was more that the driver would fail for up to 2-3 minutes with the screen going white/black before "recovering from a serious error". I could still alt+tab to other applications in the background, while eve was waiting to recover. Occasionally the screen would go black and the fans up to full duty, but much less frequently than before.
Now with 8.9, I still have the occasional crash to black with fans going mental, but the main symptom is the game locks up completely and I lose all control in windows, needing to reboot the machine to recover. The fault seems completely non-deterministic though, sometimes I can run eve for 4-5 hours without a single issue (even with 3 instances of eve running on the same machine), and other times I can have 5-6 crashes in one hour with 1 client running. In all cases the only applications running are eve and TS.
Does this sound similar to anyone else experience?
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![Lyria Skydancer Lyria Skydancer](https://images.evetech.net/characters/113476832/portrait?size=64)
Lyria Skydancer
Amarr Developmental Neogenics Amalgamated
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Posted - 2008.10.09 23:51:00 -
[203]
Originally by: Jug McKenzie I'm having the same issue and am somewhat relieved to find its not an isolated problem! I've had intermittent issues ever since having my HD 3870 x2. I've tried multiple cards with and without crossfire enabled and still have the same problems with eve (and not with any other application/game).
I can't say my experience is linked specifically to gate fire events but can't rule that out (I just haven't associated the two). What I have noticed is that as I have upgraded drivers from the set that was shipped to the current Catalysy 8.9 version, is that the behaviour of the defect is different:
Originally the display driver seemed to fail, with the screen going black and the card fans going to 100%. Windows (Vista 32) would still run fine and I could talk on TS, but had to reboot for the display to recover.
Subsequently (after a few driver updates), the problem was more that the driver would fail for up to 2-3 minutes with the screen going white/black before "recovering from a serious error". I could still alt+tab to other applications in the background, while eve was waiting to recover. Occasionally the screen would go black and the fans up to full duty, but much less frequently than before.
Now with 8.9, I still have the occasional crash to black with fans going mental, but the main symptom is the game locks up completely and I lose all control in windows, needing to reboot the machine to recover. The fault seems completely non-deterministic though, sometimes I can run eve for 4-5 hours without a single issue (even with 3 instances of eve running on the same machine), and other times I can have 5-6 crashes in one hour with 1 client running. In all cases the only applications running are eve and TS.
Does this sound similar to anyone else experience?
Yes all that sounds familiar to alot of us and its pathetic that a huge bug like this hasnt been confirmed officially as known bugs. |
![Sarin Adler Sarin Adler](https://images.evetech.net/characters/533275486/portrait?size=64)
Sarin Adler
Caldari Dark Shadow Cartel
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Posted - 2008.10.13 23:49:00 -
[204]
bump ---
Alts, the root of all evil. |
![Marlon Shakespeare Marlon Shakespeare](https://images.evetech.net/characters/832224732/portrait?size=64)
Marlon Shakespeare
Vanishing Point. The Initiative.
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Posted - 2008.10.16 08:41:00 -
[205]
Come on CCP, at least give us a statement on this! Anyone want to buy 2 brand new HD3870 X2's?
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![Lyria Skydancer Lyria Skydancer](https://images.evetech.net/characters/113476832/portrait?size=64)
Lyria Skydancer
Amarr Developmental Neogenics Amalgamated
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Posted - 2008.10.19 00:26:00 -
[206]
Edited by: Lyria Skydancer on 19/10/2008 00:27:25
Originally by: Marlon Shakespeare Come on CCP, at least give us a statement on this! Anyone want to buy 2 brand new HD3870 X2's?
I think this is what they are hoping for; That HD3870s will age and people will forget about this issue. Well I'm not forgetting it. Worthless crap programmers and bug hunting team that does nothing but ignore issues served on a plate. I've given them several pages of info, debug logs, everything. I mean cmon, atleast say if you are ACTUALLY working on it or just say "sorry not enough of the customers are affected by our bug so we are not putting money into fixing it and we hope you'll just get a new card instead". ffs. ----------------------------------------- [Video] Support Barrage |
![Arthello Arthello](https://images.evetech.net/characters/191940536/portrait?size=64)
Arthello
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Posted - 2008.10.20 13:05:00 -
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Originally by: Lyria Skydancer Edited by: Lyria Skydancer on 19/10/2008 00:27:25
Originally by: Marlon Shakespeare Come on CCP, at least give us a statement on this! Anyone want to buy 2 brand new HD3870 X2's?
I think this is what they are hoping for; That HD3870s will age and people will forget about this issue.
Well in that case it might take longer than they intended considering I got the EXACT same problem with my brand new Club3d Radeon 4870 OC Edition.
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![Thimerion Thimerion](https://images.evetech.net/characters/210661763/portrait?size=64)
Thimerion
shadow and flame Arcane Alliance
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Posted - 2008.10.20 15:21:00 -
[208]
Running 4870 X2 and having no problems at all!
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![MMXMMX MMXMMX](https://images.evetech.net/characters/691206609/portrait?size=64)
MMXMMX
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Posted - 2008.10.21 18:23:00 -
[209]
I have no problems with my ATI card MSI 4870 OC Vista home basic 64
But after installing ''K-Lite Codec Pack Full'' i had some strange stuff in eve .
I immedeatly dit a win vista restore point and never had any problems with eve again .
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![Havus Mauth Havus Mauth](https://images.evetech.net/characters/762605799/portrait?size=64)
Havus Mauth
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Posted - 2008.10.22 05:08:00 -
[210]
Edited by: Havus Mauth on 22/10/2008 05:10:24 gate fire and docking are slamming the hell out of my clients. i dont make it more than 3 hours before a lockup. 4870x2. i dont know what to do; eve is not a safe enough game that this is in any way acceptable.
the one thing i'd add is that sometimes its just my client that crashes and i can close it, but if i try to open ie or eve or explorer my system freezes immediately.
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