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Isiskhan
Gnostic Misanthropy
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Posted - 2008.07.31 21:39:00 -
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Originally by: Dantes Revenge Yup, sounds like pretty much every woman I've ever dated. There are various stages they often try to get their way.
Moody Offering you a good time Crying Implying that you are the selfish one Temper tantrums Threatening to leave you
While many women will try to pull off these sort things, there are effective ways to handle and neutralize them. Basically, once your partner realizes that this sort of emotional blackmail is useless - or even counter-productive - on yourself, you'll see a whole lot less of it.
It's like with the trolling on online forums: the way to minimize it is to simply not nourish that sort of attitude. |

Spaztick
Canadian Imperial Armaments EVESpace
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Posted - 2008.07.31 21:46:00 -
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And now we end the thread with an appropriate motivational poster for the OP to hang on his wall:
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ivar R'dhak
STK Scientific
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Posted - 2008.08.01 02:47:00 -
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Followed by the appropriate link:
http://www.menarebetterthanwomen.com/ _ Mal-`Appears we got here just in a nick of time. What does that make us?¦ Zoe-¦Big damn heroes sir.¦ Mal-¦Aint we just.¦ |

Victor Valka
Caldari Kissaki Corporation
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Posted - 2008.08.01 03:44:00 -
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Originally by: Isiskhan
Originally by: Dantes Revenge Yup, sounds like pretty much every woman I've ever dated. There are various stages they often try to get their way.
Moody Offering you a good time Crying Implying that you are the selfish one Temper tantrums Threatening to leave you
While many women will try to pull off these sort things, there are effective ways to handle and neutralize them. Basically, once your partner realizes that this sort of emotional blackmail is useless - or even counter-productive - on yourself, you'll see a whole lot less of it.
Honestly, a woman trying to pull any of the above is a valid reason to terminate a relationship. You can't change a person.
Originally by: Spaztick You are not outnumbered, you are in a target-rich environment.
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Amandin Adouin
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Posted - 2008.08.01 03:52:00 -
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I think its funny how the OP never once responded back to this thread, but his comments spawned all of this discussion about what kind of behavior is acceptable from women and how to handle it... it appears to be quite the hot topic. I'm just wondering if he really even cared what the answer was... or if he just wanted to vent.
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Victor Valka
Caldari Kissaki Corporation
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Posted - 2008.08.01 03:57:00 -
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Originally by: Amandin Adouin I think its funny how the OP never once responded back to this thread, but his comments spawned all of this discussion about what kind of behavior is acceptable from women and how to handle it... it appears to be quite the hot topic. I'm just wondering if he really even cared what the answer was... or if he just wanted to vent.
Or maybe the that gal got to him before he could read our advice!
We will never know...
Originally by: Spaztick You are not outnumbered, you are in a target-rich environment.
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Isiskhan
Gnostic Misanthropy
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Posted - 2008.08.01 04:23:00 -
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Originally by: Victor Valka Honestly, a woman trying to pull any of the above is a valid reason to terminate a relationship. You can't change a person.
That may be your experience - certainly not mine.
And it's not just with women: no one is going to learn to respect you as long as you don't respect yourself. If they manage to walk all over you, is because you're letting them to. The way people will act towards you is greatly influenced by how you act towards them, it's simple as that.
While there are of course many valid reasons to terminate a relationship - hell, I broke up with my last girlfriend because she claimed I would have to get rid of my Death Metal collection if we were to have children (that's of course an over-simplification) - if you can't properly handle your partner's shit, then perhaps you're not ready for relationships. Because in the end, that's one of the things that matter: the ability and willingness to properly handle each other's particular brand of shit.
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Victor Valka
Caldari Kissaki Corporation
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Posted - 2008.08.01 06:31:00 -
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Originally by: Isiskhan That may be your experience - certainly not mine.
And it's not just with women: no one is going to learn to respect you as long as you don't respect yourself. If they manage to walk all over you, is because you're letting them to. The way people will act towards you is greatly influenced by how you act towards them, it's simple as that.
While there are of course many valid reasons to terminate a relationship - hell, I broke up with my last girlfriend because she claimed I would have to get rid of my Death Metal collection if we were to have children (that's of course an over-simplification) - if you can't properly handle your partner's shit, then perhaps you're not ready for relationships. Because in the end, that's one of the things that matter: the ability and willingness to properly handle each other's particular brand of shit.
Let me make this very clear: I do respect myself. And, yes, I have my own oddities, hobbies and interests (I play an Internet spaceship game, for crying out loud! ) that I expect my partner to understand and deal with in a mature fashion. In turn, I am more then willing to deal with theirs, or I would not be in the relationship to start with!
However, since we already determined that I respect myself, I'm not going to deal with no-body's 'shit'. 'Shit' being 'unreasonable and/or abusive behavior'. If I get 'shit', of which common examples were listed in the post above, I will terminate the relationship.
Example of a reasonable behavior: Suggesting that we spend more time together, engaging in activities we both enjoy, instead of me playing with Internet spaceship.
Example of 'shit': Demending, in a fit of girly rage, that I stop playing with my Internet spaceships or else...
The difference is quite explicit.
In the former case, I will oblige - spending time together, doing things both partners enjoy, is one of the joys of a relationship - I would not be in a one if I didn't want that. In the later case - NEXT!
Bottom line - I'm going to look for what's best and what I want in a relationship, you know, because I'm so unreasonably selfish. If I don't find it - the relationship is terminated.
(And before you start making assumptions about what I want in a relationship - forget it. You have no clue.)
Originally by: Spaztick You are not outnumbered, you are in a target-rich environment.
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Taradis
Amarr The Imperial Assassins Ethereal Dawn
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Posted - 2008.08.01 07:45:00 -
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Originally by: MotherMoon
Originally by: Imran put it in her butt.
what what?
Theirs nuffin wrong with a lil butt sex I can't get my g/f to let me try it and the one time I did I got backhanded WOOPS!!!!!! sorry baby cakes /me gets back handed 
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Taradis
Amarr The Imperial Assassins Ethereal Dawn
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Posted - 2008.08.01 07:45:00 -
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Originally by: Wil Smithx
Originally by: MotherMoon
Originally by: Imran put it in her butt.
what what?
ROFL - I hope this can become the new rickroll
I have gotten rick rolled 3 times on friggin youtube lmao!!!
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Taradis
Amarr The Imperial Assassins Ethereal Dawn
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Posted - 2008.08.01 07:46:00 -
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Originally by: Wil Smithx
Originally by: Kaeten
Originally by: Taradis
Originally by: Kaeten oh man my ex then... sounds the same when we hit 6 months, however jsut got worse and worse, eventully she kinda punched me once in an argument with fists @ my face.
was a year ago we broke up, last month we had an argument of somekind she broke out her fists again, was bleeding from my lip and had a mark round my neck..
do like the other guys say tell her you need space, if she gets in a hassle/mood about that get out if your sad/unhappy..
don't do what I did and stay it out, I regret it..
Ouch yea my Dad told me to never hit a lady but their are some exceptions to this. When my g/f n I get into it most of the time cuz she's drunk and she's a mean drunk I just pick her up throw her over my shoulders slam her ass on the bed and tell her if she comes out imma bust her in the lip and not to talk to me until she sobers up... works to an extent never hit her tho which I am glad cuz i have a bad temper and i don't need the title of g/f beater added to me plus no matter what I would never hit a women closed fisted or at all for that matter cuz its just weak maybe I was raised right who knows
I was raised the same way, I never hit back at her, worst I've done is take by both arms and shout at her to calm down and stop. She was also a violent drunk however she could get violent sober too...
Never again lol
Damned straight, shake the shit out of that *****, then make her do the washing up!
***** get in the kitchen and make some pie!!!!!!!!! 
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Taradis
Amarr The Imperial Assassins Ethereal Dawn
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Posted - 2008.08.01 07:48:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Eris Discordia Edited by: CCP Eris Discordia on 30/07/2008 16:38:42 following is here to protect the somewhat innocent If she is hitting you, well I guess the next question is whether you are in to that. If you are I think you should tell her that there is a time and a place for that, it comes with props and safewords.
If she is being an immature ***** who cannot express her frustration in any other way then I think you might want to sit her down and tell her to stop the hissy fitting violence and learn how to deal with life in a more responsible way.
If it doesn't help, leave her.
Honestly, the reason why girls and even some women can act like this is because they can get away with it. Don't put up with it because it might get worse.
I second that notion 
Wow Eris heh heh ya i agree all it is, is atention theirs positive attention and negative attention and if youv'e tried everythin else. Call Dr. Phil and have him str8en the ***** out..
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Taradis
Amarr The Imperial Assassins Ethereal Dawn
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Posted - 2008.08.01 07:50:00 -
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Originally by: Akita T
Originally by: Tarminic
Originally by: Akita T Short and painful version (as in, screaming, shouting and possible occasional pummeling by her on your hide if you don't hurry and blurt it all out from a safe distance): [thestuff] Stuff like that. Best uttered while running away  [/joke]
Fool! She can still chase you down and/or throw things at you while running away. Follow up your statement with a smokebomb and ninja-like exit.
Poor planning. You can't possibly hope to tell her ALL of that before you use the smokebomb ! You have to start saying that, then when she starts to come closer, THEN you start wunning, and you throw the smokebomb and make the ninja exit AFTER you finished saying it all ! Using the phone is not a good idea, she can just hang up then come to your home and pummel you when you least expect it, because she knew what you were going to say (but you don't know that for sure). Well, you could ninja-hide somewhere close and use ventriloquism to project your voice from somehwere else. Or wear her out, then implant a small speaker close to her ear, and deliver the speech remotely.

LMAO!!!! now ya c me now ya don't or you could pull james bond
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Taradis
Amarr The Imperial Assassins Ethereal Dawn
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Posted - 2008.08.01 07:51:00 -
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Originally by: Tarminic
Originally by: Yoshimako if someone really goes for you, then you go back, with equal force. Man or woman. If a woman really goes for, and i mean really goes for you not slapping, then I can't see how anyone can brand you a woman beating moron.
Women are all after equal rights surely this is all part and parcel? 
Except men, on average, hit a lot harder than women. Equal force, when it comes to dealing with a woman attacking you, means that you restrain her without actually beating the crap out of her.
But if a woman comes at you and she's as strong as you are, then I'd say hitting is justifiable. 
Do a Jackie Chan over the counter hi YA!!
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Taradis
Amarr The Imperial Assassins Ethereal Dawn
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Posted - 2008.08.01 07:52:00 -
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Originally by: Highwind Cid
Originally by: Istvaan Shogaatsu Beat her terribly with a burlap sack full of oranges.
I thought a pillowcase full of doorknobs would do the trick. But yours sounds tastier.
U also get vitamin C 
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The Socialworker
Minmatar The Socialworkers
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Posted - 2008.08.01 12:14:00 -
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Originally by: ivar R'dhak Domestic abuse isn¦t wieghed towards one gender. Man and woman abuse each other equally. It¦s just the men who don¦t report it.[/quote
And I imagine just how seriously the average copper would take it if they did. In my experience (London) police are about as sexist as men come. A friend of mines' girlfriend used to lay into him when he came home late, then call the police and get him arrested, a night in the cells, and a 50/100 pound fine for disturbing the peace. Happened several times, and I saw it first hand once.
Or the sh*t my exGF used to get away with riding a bit crazy, on her illegal bikes, just by fluttering her eyes at the copper and playing dumb.
Or the poor b**tard friend who's ex made all sorts of allegations in revenge, after finding out he had been seeing another woman as well as her for years, so that he only got to see his son twice a month for half an hour each time of supervised visits. etc etc.
If a woman is a bit evil minded, she can use the police like her own personal sledgehammer against her boyfriend/husband.
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Plumpy McPudding
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Posted - 2008.08.01 12:18:00 -
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As the T-1000 said in Terminator 2, "GET OUT!" __________________________
Fear me for I have an insatiable appetite! Proprietor and inventor of Chocolate Chip Chocolate Donut flavored Ice Cream. |

Slanty McGarglefist
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Posted - 2008.08.01 12:19:00 -
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Originally by: Plumpy McPudding As the T-1000 said in Terminator 2, "GET OUT!"
GET TO DA CHOPPA!!! __________________________________________________
Originally by: CCP Wrangler No
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Isiskhan
Gnostic Misanthropy
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Posted - 2008.08.01 13:30:00 -
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Originally by: Victor Valka 'Shit' being 'unreasonable and/or abusive behavior'. If I get 'shit', of which common examples were listed in the post above, I will terminate the relationship.
You think a woman being "moody", "crying" or having "temper tantrums" is "abusive behaviour" and cause for terminating a relationship?
Good luck finding a woman who doesn't do that at one point or another, they are genetically programed to act that way - particularly every 28 days
The question is how you're able to handle those, and thinking they are abusing you somehow everytime they cry or sulk is victimizing yourself.
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Shirley Serious
Imperial Academy
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Posted - 2008.08.01 13:51:00 -
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If you see each other every day, go to the same school and stuff, then you're possibly too close to each other. This is not good, as you feel like you're being shadowed, spied on, etc. and you notice every little fault that each other has, and then the nagging starts.
You're stuck for things to idly talk about as well.
What do you do when you're together anyway? anything in particular?
Try saying something like "if we're always together, then spending time together isn't special"
Men need time on their own to do man stuff, women need time on their own to do woman stuff, and the world would be a better place if more people realised this.
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Victor Valka
Caldari Kissaki Corporation
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Posted - 2008.08.01 14:49:00 -
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Originally by: Isiskhan You think a woman being "moody", "crying" or having "temper tantrums" is "abusive behavior" and cause for terminating a relationship?
No. But they are all too often used as an excuse for. Poor wording on my part in the previous post.
It's OK to feel 'bad' or 'down' - people who care about you will do their best to comfort you. It's not, however, OK to extend your negative feelings to others on purpose - that is, in my book, psychological abuse. My parents made this very clear when they raised me - me feeling bad is not a valid excuse to be a bastard to others. Looking back now - a really important lesson.
Originally by: Isiskhan Good luck finding a woman who doesn't do that at one point or another, they are genetically programed to act that way - particularly every 28 days 
They can learn some basic self-control or GTFO. Somehow everyone expect men to control themselves even at the worst of times, but women are given free pass. I'm not a fan of double standards.
Originally by: Spaztick You are not outnumbered, you are in a target-rich environment.
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Ryysa
Paisti Paisti Syndicate
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Posted - 2008.08.01 15:48:00 -
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Originally by: Shirley Serious If you see each other every day, go to the same school and stuff, then you're possibly too close to each other. This is not good, as you feel like you're being shadowed, spied on, etc. and you notice every little fault that each other has, and then the nagging starts.
You're stuck for things to idly talk about as well.
What do you do when you're together anyway? anything in particular?
Try saying something like "if we're always together, then spending time together isn't special"
How do you propose living together in that case? Or going on vacation...
Quote: Men need time on their own to do man stuff, women need time on their own to do woman stuff, and the world would be a better place if more people realised this.
I agree with that, but what stops you from doing just that in the same room? My better half is just fine with me doing something on the computer, she just takes her laptop and reads a book or something interesting in the web in the meanwhile...
I am against relationships where one partner tells the other what to do all the time though, especially if it goes against their interests.
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Shirley Serious
Imperial Academy
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Posted - 2008.08.01 16:32:00 -
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Originally by: Ryysa How do you propose living together in that case? Or going on vacation...
If you both have jobs, or at least both have something that takes you out of the house, then you have plenty of things to talk about, and are apart long enough for time together to feel special. Continuing to go on dates whilst living together is also good.
Holidays can be a bit harder, true. Let me think for a while.
Originally by: Ryysa
I agree with that, but what stops you from doing just that in the same room?
Nothing really, except maybe the feeling that you're being watched. It bugs me if someone else is in the room when I'm looking at shoes on the internet for example.
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Amandin Adouin
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Posted - 2008.08.01 16:42:00 -
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Edited by: Amandin Adouin on 01/08/2008 16:48:19 Edited by: Amandin Adouin on 01/08/2008 16:45:39
Originally by: Shirley Serious
Originally by: Ryysa How do you propose living together in that case? Or going on vacation...
If you both have jobs, or at least both have something that takes you out of the house, then you have plenty of things to talk about, and are apart long enough for time together to feel special. Continuing to go on dates whilst living together is also good.
Holidays can be a bit harder, true. Let me think for a while.
Originally by: Ryysa
I agree with that, but what stops you from doing just that in the same room?
Nothing really, except maybe the feeling that you're being watched. It bugs me if someone else is in the room when I'm looking at shoes on the internet for example.
Shoe fetishist? No surely (and seriously), this is actually a really difficult thing to balance when you're dating someone. I've always played video games so it's even harder to make sure you have time apart. You kind of have to make yourself go out with your girl-friends, even if what you really feel like doing is staying at home and playing Eve. You definately need to have time apart though, just so you're able to always bring something new to the table, and so you don't start taking each other for granted. But you have to balance this with growing together, so you don't grow apart.
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ivar R'dhak
STK Scientific
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Posted - 2008.08.01 16:47:00 -
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Originally by: Victor Valka
Originally by: Isiskhan You think a woman being "moody", "crying" or having "temper tantrums" is "abusive behavior" and cause for terminating a relationship?
No. But they are all too often used as an excuse for. Poor wording on my part in the previous post.
This. PMS has also the magic ability of instantly vanishing when mom or best girlfriend calls up. _ Mal-`Appears we got here just in a nick of time. What does that make us?¦ Zoe-¦Big damn heroes sir.¦ Mal-¦Aint we just.¦ |

Isiskhan
Gnostic Misanthropy
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Posted - 2008.08.01 16:53:00 -
[116]
Originally by: ivar R'dhak
Originally by: Victor Valka
Originally by: Isiskhan You think a woman being "moody", "crying" or having "temper tantrums" is "abusive behavior" and cause for terminating a relationship?
No. But they are all too often used as an excuse for. Poor wording on my part in the previous post.
This. PMS has also the magic ability of instantly vanishing when mom or best girlfriend calls up.
If you are both feeling "psychologically abused" by standard-fare female-*****iness you both need to grow thicker skins. You are only being "abused" because you are allowing them to or making yourself susceptible to it.
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Antodias
North Eastern Swat Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2008.08.01 16:58:00 -
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Originally by: Isiskhan
If you are both feeling "psychologically abused" by standard-fare female-*****iness you both need to grow thicker skins. You are only being "abused" because you are allowing them to or making yourself susceptible to it.
ITT we learn that you have no clue how the human psyche works.
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Victor Valka
Caldari Kissaki Corporation
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Posted - 2008.08.01 18:31:00 -
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Originally by: Isiskhan If you are both feeling "psychologically abused" by standard-fare female-*****iness you both need to grow thicker skins. You are only being "abused" because you are allowing them to or making yourself susceptible to it.
Make up your bloody mind and review your stance and arguments! Right now, you're not making any sense.
(And try to read what I'm saying.)
Or not. Enjoy being a doormat for some skank with a princess syndrome.
Originally by: Spaztick You are not outnumbered, you are in a target-rich environment.
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YouGotRipped
Ewigkeit
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Posted - 2008.08.01 18:38:00 -
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Edited by: YouGotRipped on 01/08/2008 18:39:37
Just dump her and get another one.
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Isiskhan
Gnostic Misanthropy
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Posted - 2008.08.01 19:15:00 -
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Originally by: Victor Valka Make up your bloody mind and review your stance and arguments! Right now, you're not making any sense.
Hey, it's not rocket science.
But then I gather from all your yada-yada about "psychological abuse" that either you're a wuss who cries all the way back to mommy's house whenever your bitch acts up (or makes a thread on some internet forums about it like the OP) instead of properly putting her back in her place, or that you simply don't have much experience with the opposite sex.
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