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Ghaylente 7864
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Posted - 2008.07.29 18:12:00 -
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Me and my GF have been out like 6 months. We both live with our parents and have seen eachother daily for the past 7 months. We also live 5minutes walk from eachother, go to the same school and attend the Air training Corps.
Recently we have had alot of time together. But ive had alot of work commitments working 40/50 hours a week. The days ive had off ive come rather lazy. Whenever i cant be assed to go to the ATC or go do somthing she wants to do aomthing together she goes in a massive mood with me for the next few hrs... =[
Is it just me acting like we arnt in an relationship or ... ?
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Micheal Dietrich
Caldari Terradyne Networks
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Posted - 2008.07.29 18:18:00 -
[2]
This
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brakespear
Minmatar Heaven Up Here
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Posted - 2008.07.29 21:48:00 -
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Originally by: Ghaylente 7864 Me and my GF have been out like 6 months. We both live with our parents and have seen eachother daily for the past 7 months. We also live 5minutes walk from eachother, go to the same school and attend the Air training Corps.
Recently we have had alot of time together. But ive had alot of work commitments working 40/50 hours a week. The days ive had off ive come rather lazy. Whenever i cant be assed to go to the ATC or go do somthing she wants to do aomthing together she goes in a massive mood with me for the next few hrs... =[
Is it just me acting like we arnt in an relationship or ... ?
welcome to the rest of your life  -------------------------------------------------- 'people will always be tempted to wipe their feet on anything with 'welcome' written on it.' |

Patch86
Di-Tron Heavy Industries Atlas Alliance
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Posted - 2008.07.29 21:55:00 -
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Edited by: Patch86 on 29/07/2008 21:55:18 Are you happy: Yes/No
If No, get out now. If Yes, quit complaining.
'Tis life for you. ------
Originally by: Micheal Dietrich You can even get a midget with a camera to sit on the floorboard.
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Xtreem
Gallente Knockaround Guys Inc. Exxxotic
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Posted - 2008.07.29 21:55:00 -
[5]
yeah dude sorry to say, its only gonna at best, stay the same.
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Imran
Matari Akbar
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Posted - 2008.07.29 22:02:00 -
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put it in her butt. __________________________________________ EwokPoacher: Why hate Gallente? Blackest Sheep: Because we are beautiful.
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Istvaan Shogaatsu
Caldari Guiding Hand Social Club
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Posted - 2008.07.29 22:06:00 -
[7]
Beat her terribly with a burlap sack full of oranges.
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Spaztick
Canadian Imperial Armaments EVESpace
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Posted - 2008.07.29 22:07:00 -
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Sounds like she's being selfish. Make it clear you need some time to yourself as well as time with her. But seriously, more people should have some type of spacer in their sigs to show it's not part of the post. |

Tarminic
24th Imperial Crusade
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Posted - 2008.07.29 22:23:00 -
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Edited by: Tarminic on 29/07/2008 22:23:21
Originally by: Spaztick Sounds like she's being selfish. Make it clear you need some time to yourself as well as time with her.
This.
Communication is the foundation of a good relationship, if you're going out with her you need to be prepared to say things that she might not want to hear. Tell her what you just told us - that you need to have time to yourself and your friends too and that by not respecting that she's pushing you away. If she acts mature about it (may or may not happen), then problem solved and you can constructively come up with some rules about time to yourself or with your friends.
If not, then you need to re-evaluate your relationship and ask yourself if you're really happy like this. If you are, then no harm done. If you aren't, then it's time to find yourself a new girlfriend. ---------------- Play EVE: Downtime Madness v0.83 (Updated 7/3) |

Slade Trillgon
Siorai Iontach Brotherhood of the Spider
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Posted - 2008.07.29 22:28:00 -
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If you feel like you are being nagged then you are. You have to communicate to her your feelings. If she is not receptable to those then things will not change so get yourself out. That being said if you open up the discussion you have to be receptable to her thoughts also. Communication is the root to all types of relationships especially intimate relationships.
Slade
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Kaeten
Hybrid Syndicate
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Posted - 2008.07.30 00:04:00 -
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oh man my ex then... sounds the same when we hit 6 months, however jsut got worse and worse, eventully she kinda punched me once in an argument with fists @ my face.
was a year ago we broke up, last month we had an argument of somekind she broke out her fists again, was bleeding from my lip and had a mark round my neck..
do like the other guys say tell her you need space, if she gets in a hassle/mood about that get out if your sad/unhappy..
don't do what I did and stay it out, I regret it.. ________________________ I'M POOR
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Tarminic
24th Imperial Crusade
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Posted - 2008.07.30 00:08:00 -
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Originally by: Kaeten oh man my ex then... sounds the same when we hit 6 months, however jsut got worse and worse, eventully she kinda punched me once in an argument with fists @ my face.
was a year ago we broke up, last month we had an argument of somekind she broke out her fists again, was bleeding from my lip and had a mark round my neck.
Dude...if your GF actually hits you, run away!  ---------------- Play EVE: Downtime Madness v0.83 (Updated 7/3) |

Spaztick
Canadian Imperial Armaments EVESpace
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Posted - 2008.07.30 00:23:00 -
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Originally by: Tarminic Dude...if your GF actually hits you, smack her back! 
fix'd But seriously, more people should have some type of spacer in their sigs to show it's not part of the post. |

The TX
Gallente Earth Inc.
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Posted - 2008.07.30 00:34:00 -
[14]
Originally by: Imran put it in her butt.
LOL
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Tarminic
24th Imperial Crusade
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Posted - 2008.07.30 00:44:00 -
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Originally by: Spaztick
Originally by: Tarminic Dude...if your GF actually hits you, smack her back! 
fix'd
My solution ends with being single. Your solution ends with you and your GF sitting in the back of a cop car.  ---------------- Play EVE: Downtime Madness v0.83 (Updated 7/3) |

Jago Kain
Amarr Pan Galactic Traders
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Posted - 2008.07.30 00:49:00 -
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Edited by: Jago Kain on 30/07/2008 00:52:13 Yet more reams of good advice on relationships from unhappy blokes pretending to be brave warriors from beyond the stars and completely unable to pull anything other than a calf muscle when they leave the chair in front of the computer for their once-monthly toilet break.
I'd say take any advice given here with a pinch of salt, but if the pinch is inversely proportionate to the quality of advice given, then you'd be needing the IRL equivalent of an Iteron V (with expanders) to haul that much sodium chloride and several legions of catapult equipped troops working shifts around the clock for weeks to throw it over your shoulder.
You'd be better seeking advice on how to deal with relationships from Charles Manson than the EVE community....
....but seeing as you asked, I'd say the best solution is to knock her on the head with a rubber mallet, tie some large weights to her ankles and drop her into the nearest reasonably deep river, not forgetting to check her pockets for small change first (every little helps).
Don't thank me, it's just what I do.
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Spaztick
Canadian Imperial Armaments EVESpace
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Posted - 2008.07.30 00:55:00 -
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Originally by: Jago Kain Edited by: Jago Kain on 30/07/2008 00:52:13 Yet more reams of good advice on relationships from unhappy blokes pretending to be brave warriors from beyond the stars and completely unable to pull anything other than a calf muscle when they leave the chair in front of the computer for their once-monthly toilet break.
I'd say take any advice given here with a pinch of salt, but if the pinch is inversely proportionate to the quality of advice given, then you'd be needing the IRL equivalent of an Iteron V (with expanders) to haul that much sodium chloride and several legions of catapult equipped troops working shifts around the clock for weeks to throw it over your shoulder.
You'd be better seeking advice on how to deal with relationships from Charles Manson than the EVE community....
....but seeing as you asked, I'd say the best solution is to knock her on the head with a rubber mallet, tie some large weights to her ankles and drop her into the nearest reasonably deep river, not forgetting to check her pockets for small change first (every little helps).
Don't thank me, it's just what I do.
You just used an EVE reference to give advice on taking advice on the EVE forums. But seriously, more people should have some type of spacer in their sigs to show it's not part of the post. |

Eternal Error
Exitus Acta Probant
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Posted - 2008.07.30 01:00:00 -
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Edited by: Eternal Error on 30/07/2008 01:00:12
Originally by: Jago Kain
You'd be better seeking advice on how to deal with relationships from Charles Manson than the EVE community....
LOL 
EDIT: seriously this is ****ing me off, why do some of my posts get italicized without me hitting the key?
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Micheal Dietrich
Caldari Terradyne Networks
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Posted - 2008.07.30 02:22:00 -
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Originally by: Jago Kain Edited by: Jago Kain on 30/07/2008 00:52:13 Yet more reams of good advice on relationships from unhappy blokes pretending to be brave warriors from beyond the stars and completely unable to pull anything other than a calf muscle when they leave the chair in front of the computer for their once-monthly toilet break.
HEY, I'll have you know I just picked me up a total gym the other day for a great deal. In a few months I'll be as cool as Chuck Norris cause he says so!
I'll be getting a freestand for the punching bag on thursday.
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Amandin Adouin
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Posted - 2008.07.30 02:46:00 -
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Edited by: Amandin Adouin on 30/07/2008 02:46:24
Originally by: Spaztick Sounds like she's being selfish. Make it clear you need some time to yourself as well as time with her.
Oh come on... the sensitive guy.
I say if she gives you any lip you just get all Ike Turner on her ass - that'll shut her up real quick.
Seriously, OP, you're asking for advice from people who say 'stick it in her butt'.
I agree with Jago - this is the last place you should be asking for dating advice. Yeah if you want advice about pew pewing in space ships, ask away. Dating? No, I don't think so.
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Xonkra
Gallente
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Posted - 2008.07.30 08:22:00 -
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dude... your name...
... would explain alot  --------- Founder of the Hug-a-troll initiative Hug a forum troll because they can probably use it ! |

Buff Plankchest
Minmatar
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Posted - 2008.07.30 08:34:00 -
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Originally by: brakespear
welcome to the rest of your life 
quoted for truth 
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Taradis
Amarr The Imperial Assassins Ethereal Dawn
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Posted - 2008.07.30 08:47:00 -
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Originally by: Kaeten oh man my ex then... sounds the same when we hit 6 months, however jsut got worse and worse, eventully she kinda punched me once in an argument with fists @ my face.
was a year ago we broke up, last month we had an argument of somekind she broke out her fists again, was bleeding from my lip and had a mark round my neck..
do like the other guys say tell her you need space, if she gets in a hassle/mood about that get out if your sad/unhappy..
don't do what I did and stay it out, I regret it..
Ouch yea my Dad told me to never hit a lady but their are some exceptions to this. When my g/f n I get into it most of the time cuz she's drunk and she's a mean drunk I just pick her up throw her over my shoulders slam her ass on the bed and tell her if she comes out imma bust her in the lip and not to talk to me until she sobers up... works to an extent never hit her tho which I am glad cuz i have a bad temper and i don't need the title of g/f beater added to me plus no matter what I would never hit a women closed fisted or at all for that matter cuz its just weak maybe I was raised right who knows
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Akita T
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
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Posted - 2008.07.30 09:46:00 -
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Edited by: Akita T on 30/07/2008 09:51:30
Originally by: Eternal Error EDIT: seriously this is ****ing me off, why do some of my posts get italicized without me hitting the key?
You have an open "edit" tag with no closing one. You manually removed the closing one and forgot to delete the opening one.
As to the OP : yeah, communication and all that crap. Short and painful version (as in, screaming, shouting and possible occasional pummeling by her on your hide if you don't hurry and blurt it all out from a safe distance):
"I know you love to spend a lot of time together, but I need some personal time too. Don't get it the wrong way I still [love||like||adore||whatever] you, but I feel suffocated if I can't ever hope to do anything by myself, because we're together every waking minute when we're not working or studying. I need a night with the boys, I need a couple of hours of solo relaxation, I need to sleep late in the weekend every now and then."
Stuff like that. Best uttered while running away  [/joke]
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Bilbo Bubbinz
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Posted - 2008.07.30 12:08:00 -
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Originally by: Ghaylente 7864 Me and my GF have been out like 6 months. We both live with our parents and have seen eachother daily for the past 7 months. We also live 5minutes walk from eachother, go to the same school and attend the Air training Corps.
Recently we have had alot of time together. But ive had alot of work commitments working 40/50 hours a week. The days ive had off ive come rather lazy. Whenever i cant be assed to go to the ATC or go do somthing she wants to do aomthing together she goes in a massive mood with me for the next few hrs... =[
Is it just me acting like we arnt in an relationship or ... ?
Just an observation, and some assumptions. But you are in full time education, and working 40/50 hours per week? Little wonder you dont want to do much, you're burning the candle at both ends (or throwing the damn thing into a furnace, as I like to say)
Where you say you've become lazy, you've got yourself into a rut, and you are aware of it. (I know exactly how you feel here, I've been working 60+ hrs average lately, and been staying up till the likes of 3-4am just to be able to hang with my partner, as she works nights) In all honesty, something in your personal life needs to give a little, wether it be your job, or your education. Personally, I'd suggest your job, education is always far more important these days.
As for some of the replies, the genuine ones at least, the key here really is communication. You haven't said how much you've talked about your feelings, but I get the impression that you've not really said too much about yours, and she thinks that you're being inconsiderate. Talk to her, let her know that you're exhausted and just want to unwind, maybe even suggest that instead of going to the atc, the two of you just veg out in front of the tv or something now and again instead.
As for your last sentence; No, it doesn't sound like you are not in a relationship any longer. Clearly, you are by any standard. The fact that she wants to spend time with you is evidence of this. If the two of you genuinely care for each other, than you both will find a suitable compromise here.
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quave
Caldari Perkone
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Posted - 2008.07.30 12:13:00 -
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Take some advice from this guy
advice
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Kaeten
Hybrid Syndicate
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Posted - 2008.07.30 13:08:00 -
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Originally by: Taradis
Originally by: Kaeten oh man my ex then... sounds the same when we hit 6 months, however jsut got worse and worse, eventully she kinda punched me once in an argument with fists @ my face.
was a year ago we broke up, last month we had an argument of somekind she broke out her fists again, was bleeding from my lip and had a mark round my neck..
do like the other guys say tell her you need space, if she gets in a hassle/mood about that get out if your sad/unhappy..
don't do what I did and stay it out, I regret it..
Ouch yea my Dad told me to never hit a lady but their are some exceptions to this. When my g/f n I get into it most of the time cuz she's drunk and she's a mean drunk I just pick her up throw her over my shoulders slam her ass on the bed and tell her if she comes out imma bust her in the lip and not to talk to me until she sobers up... works to an extent never hit her tho which I am glad cuz i have a bad temper and i don't need the title of g/f beater added to me plus no matter what I would never hit a women closed fisted or at all for that matter cuz its just weak maybe I was raised right who knows
I was raised the same way, I never hit back at her, worst I've done is take by both arms and shout at her to calm down and stop. She was also a violent drunk however she could get violent sober too...
Never again lol ________________________ I'M POOR
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Wil Smithx
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Posted - 2008.07.30 13:18:00 -
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See seems violent, whatever you do don't dump her; I met a bloke once who tried to dump a girl cos she was mental...
She chased him down the road with a kitchen knife and stabbed him in the arm!
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Tarminic
24th Imperial Crusade
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Posted - 2008.07.30 13:34:00 -
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Originally by: Akita T Stuff like that. Best uttered while running away  [/joke]
Fool! She can still chase you down and/or throw things at you while running away. Follow up your statement with a smokebomb and ninja-like exit. ---------------- Play EVE: Downtime Madness v0.83 (Updated 7/3) |

Xen Gin
Universal Mining Inc Forged Dominion
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Posted - 2008.07.30 14:08:00 -
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Edited by: Xen Gin on 30/07/2008 14:08:40
Originally by: Kaeten
Originally by: Taradis
Originally by: Kaeten oh man my ex then... sounds the same when we hit 6 months, however jsut got worse and worse, eventully she kinda punched me once in an argument with fists @ my face.
was a year ago we broke up, last month we had an argument of somekind she broke out her fists again, was bleeding from my lip and had a mark round my neck..
do like the other guys say tell her you need space, if she gets in a hassle/mood about that get out if your sad/unhappy..
don't do what I did and stay it out, I regret it..
Ouch yea my Dad told me to never hit a lady but their are some exceptions to this. When my g/f n I get into it most of the time cuz she's drunk and she's a mean drunk I just pick her up throw her over my shoulders slam her ass on the bed and tell her if she comes out imma bust her in the lip and not to talk to me until she sobers up... works to an extent never hit her tho which I am glad cuz i have a bad temper and i don't need the title of g/f beater added to me plus no matter what I would never hit a women closed fisted or at all for that matter cuz its just weak maybe I was raised right who knows
I was raised the same way, I never hit back at her, worst I've done is take by both arms and shout at her to calm down and stop. She was also a violent drunk however she could get violent sober too...
Never again lol
My uncle was like that, never hit a woman, right down to even when his ex-wife stabbed him in the heart with a kitchen knife.
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Jastra
Gallente Black Thorne Corporation
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Posted - 2008.07.30 14:13:00 -
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Originally by: brakespear
Originally by: Ghaylente 7864 Me and my GF have been out like 6 months. We both live with our parents and have seen eachother daily for the past 7 months. We also live 5minutes walk from eachother, go to the same school and attend the Air training Corps.
Recently we have had alot of time together. But ive had alot of work commitments working 40/50 hours a week. The days ive had off ive come rather lazy. Whenever i cant be assed to go to the ATC or go do somthing she wants to do aomthing together she goes in a massive mood with me for the next few hrs... =[
Is it just me acting like we arnt in an relationship or ... ?
welcome to the rest of your life 
ROFL, yeah, this probably, a negotiation about what you do on your days off is probably in order
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Wil Smithx
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Posted - 2008.07.30 14:15:00 -
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Originally by: MotherMoon
Originally by: Imran put it in her butt.
what what?
ROFL - I hope this can become the new rickroll
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Wil Smithx
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Posted - 2008.07.30 14:18:00 -
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Originally by: Kaeten
Originally by: Taradis
Originally by: Kaeten oh man my ex then... sounds the same when we hit 6 months, however jsut got worse and worse, eventully she kinda punched me once in an argument with fists @ my face.
was a year ago we broke up, last month we had an argument of somekind she broke out her fists again, was bleeding from my lip and had a mark round my neck..
do like the other guys say tell her you need space, if she gets in a hassle/mood about that get out if your sad/unhappy..
don't do what I did and stay it out, I regret it..
Ouch yea my Dad told me to never hit a lady but their are some exceptions to this. When my g/f n I get into it most of the time cuz she's drunk and she's a mean drunk I just pick her up throw her over my shoulders slam her ass on the bed and tell her if she comes out imma bust her in the lip and not to talk to me until she sobers up... works to an extent never hit her tho which I am glad cuz i have a bad temper and i don't need the title of g/f beater added to me plus no matter what I would never hit a women closed fisted or at all for that matter cuz its just weak maybe I was raised right who knows
I was raised the same way, I never hit back at her, worst I've done is take by both arms and shout at her to calm down and stop. She was also a violent drunk however she could get violent sober too...
Never again lol
Damned straight, shake the shit out of that *****, then make her do the washing up!
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Isiskhan
Gnostic Misanthropy
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Posted - 2008.07.30 14:32:00 -
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Originally by: Ghaylente 7864 ... Is it just me ... ?
Buddy, you're screwed.
Can't wait to read the threads you'll make once you two move in together.
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Gungankllr
Caldari Isonami Syndicate
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Posted - 2008.07.30 14:32:00 -
[35]
Really depends on if you're still into her or not.
Only you know the answer to that.
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Viqtoria
Caldari Groping Hand Social Club
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Posted - 2008.07.30 14:44:00 -
[36]
dump her. seriously.
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Wil Smithx
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Posted - 2008.07.30 15:01:00 -
[37]
Originally by: Viqtoria dump her. seriously.
Yea you already have eve for a mistress, and they don't come much better, eve goes down for an hour a day without fail...
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Tarminic
24th Imperial Crusade
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Posted - 2008.07.30 15:27:00 -
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Originally by: Xen Gin My uncle was like that, never hit a woman, right down to even when his ex-wife stabbed him in the heart with a kitchen knife.
There's is a difference between "hitting" and "keeping them from stabbing you," you know.  ---------------- Play EVE: Downtime Madness v0.83 (Updated 7/3) |

Verone
Gallente Veto Corp
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Posted - 2008.07.30 15:40:00 -
[39]
Originally by: Tarminic
Originally by: Spaztick
Originally by: Tarminic Dude...if your GF actually hits you, smack her back! 
fix'd
My solution ends with being single. Your solution ends with you and your GF sitting in the back of a cop car. 
His solution also ends with him being branded a woman beating moron.
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Wil Smithx
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Posted - 2008.07.30 15:49:00 -
[40]
Originally by: Tarminic
Originally by: Xen Gin My uncle was like that, never hit a woman, right down to even when his ex-wife stabbed him in the heart with a kitchen knife.
There's is a difference between "hitting" and "keeping them from stabbing you," you know. 
Oh wow am I putting a knife in her hand and taking pictures after next time...
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CCP Eris Discordia

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Posted - 2008.07.30 16:38:00 -
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Edited by: CCP Eris Discordia on 30/07/2008 16:38:42 following is here to protect the somewhat innocent If she is hitting you, well I guess the next question is whether you are in to that. If you are I think you should tell her that there is a time and a place for that, it comes with props and safewords.
If she is being an immature ***** who cannot express her frustration in any other way then I think you might want to sit her down and tell her to stop the hissy fitting violence and learn how to deal with life in a more responsible way.
If it doesn't help, leave her.
Honestly, the reason why girls and even some women can act like this is because they can get away with it. Don't put up with it because it might get worse. |
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Micheal Dietrich
Caldari Terradyne Networks
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Posted - 2008.07.30 16:56:00 -
[42]
/stands in shock, envy, and awe of the mighty roar Eris post 
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Spaztick
Canadian Imperial Armaments EVESpace
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Posted - 2008.07.30 17:36:00 -
[43]
omg u siad bad word!1 But seriously, more people should have some type of spacer in their sigs to show it's not part of the post. |

Neth'Rae
Gallente Decorum Inc Tygris Alliance
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Posted - 2008.07.30 17:37:00 -
[44]
Edited by: Neth''Rae on 30/07/2008 17:37:50
Originally by: Verone
Originally by: Tarminic
Originally by: Spaztick
Originally by: Tarminic Dude...if your GF actually hits you, smack her back! 
fix'd
My solution ends with being single. Your solution ends with you and your GF sitting in the back of a cop car. 
His solution also ends with him being branded a woman beating moron.
A woman-beating-man beating a man-beating-moron-woman rather? 
edit: actually they would both be morons :P
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Hieronimus Rex
Minmatar Infinitus Sapientia New Eden Research
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Posted - 2008.07.30 17:39:00 -
[45]
Originally by: Imran put it in her butt.
This. She wants it in the ****er.
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Victor Valka
Caldari Kissaki Corporation
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Posted - 2008.07.30 17:43:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Eris Discordia Honestly, the reason why girls and even some women can act like this is because they can get away with it. Don't put up with it because it might get worse.
That is the most sensible thing I have _ever_ heard a woman say (write). (That's a compliment, if there were any doubts.)
@OP: Emotional abuse is just as bad as physical. If not worse. Don't let anyone abuse you - I understand that you're young and believe the myth of Awesome Pussy. Awesome Pussy is supposed to be all important (according to media, at least ) and if you ain't getting it daily you might as well expire there and then (again, according to media). Don't believe that. If you don't feel comfortable in a relationship - leave. Now!
No matter what you try, you can't change people - only people can change themselves. You're relationship will not get better, regardless of if you do X, Y or Z. Ergo, my advice - leave.
The bottom line, if only oh so cynical, is - plenty of fish in the sea.
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Akita T
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
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Posted - 2008.07.30 17:47:00 -
[47]
Originally by: Tarminic
Originally by: Akita T Short and painful version (as in, screaming, shouting and possible occasional pummeling by her on your hide if you don't hurry and blurt it all out from a safe distance): [thestuff] Stuff like that. Best uttered while running away  [/joke]
Fool! She can still chase you down and/or throw things at you while running away. Follow up your statement with a smokebomb and ninja-like exit.
Poor planning. You can't possibly hope to tell her ALL of that before you use the smokebomb ! You have to start saying that, then when she starts to come closer, THEN you start wunning, and you throw the smokebomb and make the ninja exit AFTER you finished saying it all ! Using the phone is not a good idea, she can just hang up then come to your home and pummel you when you least expect it, because she knew what you were going to say (but you don't know that for sure). Well, you could ninja-hide somewhere close and use ventriloquism to project your voice from somehwere else. Or wear her out, then implant a small speaker close to her ear, and deliver the speech remotely.

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Radix Salvilines
dearg doom
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Posted - 2008.07.30 18:00:00 -
[48]
when in bed and doing dirty things say "oh EVE" :P :P :P ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ ♥-☻BPINC☺-♥ ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ |

Slanty McGarglefist
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Posted - 2008.07.30 18:02:00 -
[49]
Tell her that you'll always be there for her, but then leave the country. __________________________________________________
Originally by: CCP Wrangler No
Doh! |

Lord Zoran
House of Tempers
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Posted - 2008.07.30 18:45:00 -
[50]
Originally by: Imran put it in her butt.
lmao
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Kalahari Wayrest
Re-Awakened Technologies Inc
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Posted - 2008.07.30 19:11:00 -
[51]
Edited by: Kalahari Wayrest on 30/07/2008 19:11:54 Uhm. I think everyones coming from a good place, i.e being supportive, but I think some are overreacting.
From what you said, it seems like she's gotten used to seeing you daily over the last 6 months and then maybe it feels to her that you suddenly don't want to spend time with her. I mean, if you've explained that you've worked hard and want days off/to be with yourself but it isn't her, and you want time to yourself as well as time with her, rather than instead of, then fair enough she's being completely unjustified in being moody. (and to be honest, seems a little high maintenance)
However, if you haven't explained things to her properly and just blown her off then she's fairly entitled to feel unwanted and neglected (hence moody) as she won't know what's going on with you. __________________________ Indulge Me Consider Yourself Indulged - Immy ♥ Wow immy scored - Xorus
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Victor Valka
Caldari Kissaki Corporation
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Posted - 2008.07.30 19:29:00 -
[52]
Quote: put it in her butt.
Originally by: Kalahari Wayrest Edited by: Kalahari Wayrest on 30/07/2008 19:11:54 Uhm. I think everyones coming from a good place, i.e being supportive[...]
Does not compute! 
(Sorry. I'll go sit in the corner now. )
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Grandeur
Gallente Eternity INC. Project Alice.
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Posted - 2008.07.30 19:39:00 -
[53]
Originally by: Gungankllr Really depends on if you're still into her or not.
Only you know the answer to that.
Quotin' Gungan because he's right.
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Slanty McGarglefist
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Posted - 2008.07.30 19:41:00 -
[54]
The lack of update from the OP probably means he decided to try out our advice and his GF killed him.
Should we flee the country? __________________________________________________
Originally by: CCP Wrangler No
Doh! |

Tarminic
24th Imperial Crusade
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Posted - 2008.07.30 19:42:00 -
[55]
Originally by: Victor Valka
Quote: put it in her butt.
Originally by: Kalahari Wayrest Edited by: Kalahari Wayrest on 30/07/2008 19:11:54 Uhm. I think everyones coming from a good place, i.e being supportive[...]
Does not compute! 
(Sorry. I'll go sit in the corner now. )
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Akita T
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
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Posted - 2008.07.30 19:45:00 -
[56]
Originally by: Slanty McGarglefist The lack of update from the OP probably means he decided to try out our advice and his GF killed him. Should we flee the country?
Your sig gives the answer 
Originally by: Your SIG
Originally by: CCP Wrangler No
Doh!

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THE APPRENTICE || mineral balance || nanofix
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EnslaverOfMinmatar
Yarsk Hunters DeaDSpace Coalition
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Posted - 2008.07.30 19:49:00 -
[57]
If she's going to hit you in the face, quickly put on a helmet.
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Yoshimako
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Posted - 2008.07.30 21:58:00 -
[58]
Edited by: Yoshimako on 30/07/2008 21:58:54 I'll always try to get out of a situation with out fighting, talking them round or even walking away. My experiences as a child and teenager taught me this, i don't do losing and it normally end with the other person getting badly hurt and that just isnt worth the hassle.
However, if someone really goes for you, then you go back, with equal force. Man or woman. If a woman really goes for, and i mean really goes for you not slapping, then I can't see how anyone can brand you a woman beating moron.
Women are all after equal rights surely this is all part and parcel? 
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Tarminic
24th Imperial Crusade
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Posted - 2008.07.30 22:05:00 -
[59]
Originally by: Yoshimako if someone really goes for you, then you go back, with equal force. Man or woman. If a woman really goes for, and i mean really goes for you not slapping, then I can't see how anyone can brand you a woman beating moron.
Women are all after equal rights surely this is all part and parcel? 
Except men, on average, hit a lot harder than women. Equal force, when it comes to dealing with a woman attacking you, means that you restrain her without actually beating the crap out of her.
But if a woman comes at you and she's as strong as you are, then I'd say hitting is justifiable.  ---------------- Play EVE: Downtime Madness v0.83 (Updated 7/3) |

Yoshimako
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Posted - 2008.07.30 22:18:00 -
[60]
thats why i said equal force. But bear in mind it doesnt take alot of pressure if someone hits you in the throat or many other weak points of the human body, its better to be safe then sorry.
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Neth'Rae
Gallente Decorum Inc Tygris Alliance
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Posted - 2008.07.30 22:22:00 -
[61]
Edited by: Neth''Rae on 30/07/2008 22:25:03
Originally by: Tarminic But if a woman comes at you and she's as strong as you are, then I'd say hitting is justifiable. 
Should be np then since we're all skinny geeks with glasses rite? :D
Actually, put on a pair of glasses and everything will be solved, men can't hit woman, but no one can hit people with glasses on so it will be like a mexican standoff.. 
Hm, women with glasses, their like immune to any form of damage, nerf! 
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Spaztick
Canadian Imperial Armaments EVESpace
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Posted - 2008.07.30 23:24:00 -
[62]
Thread hijack.
Why is it that abortion is legal but killing a pregnant woman is double homicide? Is it a baby or not? But seriously, more people should have some type of spacer in their sigs to show it's not part of the post. |

Highwind Cid
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Posted - 2008.07.30 23:24:00 -
[63]
Originally by: Istvaan Shogaatsu Beat her terribly with a burlap sack full of oranges.
I thought a pillowcase full of doorknobs would do the trick. But yours sounds tastier.
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Kaeten
Hybrid Syndicate
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Posted - 2008.07.30 23:41:00 -
[64]
Originally by: Neth'Rae Edited by: Neth''Rae on 30/07/2008 17:37:50
Originally by: Verone
Originally by: Tarminic
Originally by: Spaztick
Originally by: Tarminic Dude...if your GF actually hits you, smack her back! 
fix'd
My solution ends with being single. Your solution ends with you and your GF sitting in the back of a cop car. 
His solution also ends with him being branded a woman beating moron.
A woman-beating-man beating a man-beating-moron-woman rather? 
edit: actually they would both be morons :P
and who would the police belive..
I know, I'm an ex-military police... Always the girls that get the sympathy.. ________________________ I'M POOR
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Kalahari Wayrest
Re-Awakened Technologies Inc
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Posted - 2008.07.31 00:53:00 -
[65]
Edited by: Kalahari Wayrest on 31/07/2008 00:53:36 Don't think I'm going to get into the moral and political mine field of spousal abuse and violence/reciprocal violence (which is a seperate issue from the OP)
Quote: Originally by: Victor Valka
Quote:put it in her butt.
Originally by: Kalahari WayrestEdited by: Kalahari Wayrest on 30/07/2008 19:11:54 Uhm. I think everyones coming from a good place, i.e being supportive[...]
Does not compute! Laughing
(Sorry. I'll go sit in the corner now. Embarassed )
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yeah I was kind of excluding the "put it in her butt", "beat her with oranges" and other posts and meant the vaguely serious replies Ignoring those kind of comments is like...forum 101 survival guide for me so I just took that for granted 
(I think in general there is a whole kind of macho bros before hos, male camaraderie vibe to this thread to make the OP feel better, which in some ways is actually quite sweet if not particularly balanced)
__________________________ Indulge Me Consider Yourself Indulged - Immy ♥ Wow immy scored - Xorus
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ivar R'dhak
STK Scientific
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Posted - 2008.07.31 01:26:00 -
[66]
I say anybody with the name Ghaylente deserves what fate has in store for him.
So yeah, treat her like a princess and apologize profusely to her whenever she accuses you of imagined or actual(very rare) wrongdoings. Under no circumstance dare to raise your voice at her when she starts yelling. And for the sake of everything holy don¦t ever stop saying Yes Dear after every whimsical wish she states.
This way you¦ll experience womanity at it¦s best.  _ Mal-`Appears we got here just in a nick of time. What does that make us?¦ Zoe-¦Big damn heroes sir.¦ Mal-¦Aint we just.¦ |

Neeros
Caldari NailorTech Industries Ethereal Dawn
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Posted - 2008.07.31 02:27:00 -
[67]
Originally by: Tarminic
Originally by: Yoshimako if someone really goes for you, then you go back, with equal force. Man or woman. If a woman really goes for, and i mean really goes for you not slapping, then I can't see how anyone can brand you a woman beating moron.
Women are all after equal rights surely this is all part and parcel? 
Except men, on average, hit a lot harder than women. Equal force, when it comes to dealing with a woman attacking you, means that you restrain her without actually beating the crap out of her.
But if a woman comes at you and she's as strong as you are, then I'd say hitting is justifiable. 
LOL Oh man, I personally know three women who are all of petite size that really and i mean really know how to fight, if one of them came me seriously trying to hurt me I would have no problem whatsoever throwing full punches myself (or risk getting my head knocked off )
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ivar R'dhak
STK Scientific
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Posted - 2008.07.31 02:34:00 -
[68]
Plus the ALWAYS fight as dirty as possible. Your balls are permanent primaries. _ Mal-`Appears we got here just in a nick of time. What does that make us?¦ Zoe-¦Big damn heroes sir.¦ Mal-¦Aint we just.¦ |

Felix Drago
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Posted - 2008.07.31 10:09:00 -
[69]
Originally by: Kaeten
Originally by: Neth'Rae Edited by: Neth''Rae on 30/07/2008 17:37:50
Originally by: Verone
His solution also ends with him being branded a woman beating moron.
A woman-beating-man beating a man-beating-moron-woman rather? 
edit: actually they would both be morons :P
and who would the police belive..
I know, I'm an ex-military police... Always the girls that get the sympathy..
The UK gov't is planning on passing a law that will pretty much mean it's ok for a woman to kill her partner if he is abusive. Telegraph link. When you have the head of the women's refuge in the UK on the news saying it's a bad idea, you know something's gotta be wrong.
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Wil Smithx
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Posted - 2008.07.31 10:42:00 -
[70]
Originally by: Neth'Rae Edited by: Neth''Rae on 30/07/2008 22:25:03
Originally by: Tarminic But if a woman comes at you and she's as strong as you are, then I'd say hitting is justifiable. 
Should be np then since we're all skinny geeks with glasses rite? :D
Actually, put on a pair of glasses and everything will be solved, men can't hit woman, but no one can hit people with glasses on so it will be like a mexican standoff.. 
Hm, women with glasses, their like immune to any form of damage, nerf! 
When I was back in school my friend took a kids glasses off before he punched him...
It was the funiest thing to see.
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YouGotRipped
Ewigkeit
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Posted - 2008.07.31 10:44:00 -
[71]
Originally by: Wil Smithx
Originally by: Neth'Rae Edited by: Neth''Rae on 30/07/2008 22:25:03
Originally by: Tarminic But if a woman comes at you and she's as strong as you are, then I'd say hitting is justifiable. 
Should be np then since we're all skinny geeks with glasses rite? :D
Actually, put on a pair of glasses and everything will be solved, men can't hit woman, but no one can hit people with glasses on so it will be like a mexican standoff.. 
Hm, women with glasses, their like immune to any form of damage, nerf! 
When I was back in school my friend took a kids glasses off before he punched him...
It was the funiest thing to see.
What you don't know is that later the teacher took your friend's pants off before slapping him.
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Wil Smithx
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Posted - 2008.07.31 10:45:00 -
[72]
Originally by: Felix Drago
Originally by: Kaeten
Originally by: Neth'Rae Edited by: Neth''Rae on 30/07/2008 17:37:50
Originally by: Verone
His solution also ends with him being branded a woman beating moron.
A woman-beating-man beating a man-beating-moron-woman rather? 
edit: actually they would both be morons :P
and who would the police belive..
I know, I'm an ex-military police... Always the girls that get the sympathy..
The UK gov't is planning on passing a law that will pretty much mean it's ok for a woman to kill her partner if he is abusive. Telegraph link. When you have the head of the women's refuge in the UK on the news saying it's a bad idea, you know something's gotta be wrong.
NOOO don't nerf men abusing woman! Women will be OP!
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Antodias
North Eastern Swat Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2008.07.31 11:24:00 -
[73]
Originally by: Kaeten and who would the police belive..
I know, I'm an ex-military police... Always the girls that get the sympathy..
This. If a women hits you, and you hit her back, saying "Well she hit me first" will generally not go down well if the police get involved.
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Neth'Rae
Gallente Decorum Inc Tygris Alliance
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Posted - 2008.07.31 11:53:00 -
[74]
Originally by: Antodias
Originally by: Kaeten and who would the police belive..
I know, I'm an ex-military police... Always the girls that get the sympathy..
This. If a women hits you, and you hit her back, saying "Well she hit me first" will generally not go down well if the police get involved.
Depends on who gets the black eye 
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Tarminic
24th Imperial Crusade
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Posted - 2008.07.31 13:46:00 -
[75]
Originally by: ivar R'dhak I say anybody with the name Ghaylente deserves what fate has in store for him.
So yeah, treat her like a princess and apologize profusely to her whenever she accuses you of imagined or actual(very rare) wrongdoings. Under no circumstance dare to raise your voice at her when she starts yelling. And for the sake of everything holy don¦t ever stop saying Yes Dear after every whimsical wish she states.
This way you¦ll experience womanity at it¦s best. 
In case anyone doesn't know, this is actually a terrible idea. ---------------- Play EVE: Downtime Madness v0.83 (Updated 7/3) |

Slanty McGarglefist
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Posted - 2008.07.31 13:50:00 -
[76]
Originally by: Tarminic
Originally by: ivar R'dhak I say anybody with the name Ghaylente deserves what fate has in store for him.
So yeah, treat her like a princess and apologize profusely to her whenever she accuses you of imagined or actual(very rare) wrongdoings. Under no circumstance dare to raise your voice at her when she starts yelling. And for the sake of everything holy don¦t ever stop saying Yes Dear after every whimsical wish she states.
This way you¦ll experience womanity at it¦s best. 
In case anyone doesn't know, this is actually a terrible idea.
The end result of this "strategy" is women who nag their husbands constantly because the men lost or had no balls. __________________________________________________
Originally by: CCP Wrangler No
Doh! |

Tarminic
24th Imperial Crusade
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Posted - 2008.07.31 13:53:00 -
[77]
Originally by: Slanty McGarglefist
Originally by: Tarminic
Originally by: ivar R'dhak I say anybody with the name Ghaylente deserves what fate has in store for him.
So yeah, treat her like a princess and apologize profusely to her whenever she accuses you of imagined or actual(very rare) wrongdoings. Under no circumstance dare to raise your voice at her when she starts yelling. And for the sake of everything holy don¦t ever stop saying Yes Dear after every whimsical wish she states.
This way you¦ll experience womanity at it¦s best. 
In case anyone doesn't know, this is actually a terrible idea.
The end result of this "strategy" is women who nag their husbands constantly because the men lost or had no balls.
That's the best case scenario. Worst case is that she dumps your ass for being an insincere, patronizing pushover. Which you are at that point.  ---------------- Play EVE: Downtime Madness v0.83 (Updated 7/3) |

Dihania
Gallente SniggWaffe
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Posted - 2008.07.31 13:55:00 -
[78]
THIS:
Originally by: Tarminic Edited by: Tarminic on 29/07/2008 22:23:21
Originally by: Spaztick Sounds like she's being selfish. Make it clear you need some time to yourself as well as time with her.
This.
Communication is the foundation of a good relationship, if you're going out with her you need to be prepared to say things that she might not want to hear. Tell her what you just told us - that you need to have time to yourself and your friends too and that by not respecting that she's pushing you away. If she acts mature about it (may or may not happen), then problem solved and you can constructively come up with some rules about time to yourself or with your friends.
If not, then you need to re-evaluate your relationship and ask yourself if you're really happy like this. If you are, then no harm done. If you aren't, then it's time to find yourself a new girlfriend.
AND THIS:
Originally by: Imran put it in her butt.
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ivar R'dhak
STK Scientific
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Posted - 2008.07.31 17:20:00 -
[79]
Originally by: Wil Smithx
Originally by: Felix Drago
Originally by: Kaeten
Originally by: Neth'Rae Edited by: Neth''Rae on 30/07/2008 17:37:50
Originally by: Verone
His solution also ends with him being branded a woman beating moron.
A woman-beating-man beating a man-beating-moron-woman rather? 
edit: actually they would both be morons :P
and who would the police belive..
I know, I'm an ex-military police... Always the girls that get the sympathy..
The UK gov't is planning on passing a law that will pretty much mean it's ok for a woman to kill her partner if he is abusive. Telegraph link. When you have the head of the women's refuge in the UK on the news saying it's a bad idea, you know something's gotta be wrong.
NOOO don't nerf men abusing woman! Women will be OP!
Congratulations for buying into blatant feminist anti-male propaganda. Leave your mancard at the exit plz.
Domestic abuse isn¦t wieghed towards one gender. Man and woman abuse each other equally. It¦s just the men who don¦t report it. _ Mal-`Appears we got here just in a nick of time. What does that make us?¦ Zoe-¦Big damn heroes sir.¦ Mal-¦Aint we just.¦ |

ivar R'dhak
STK Scientific
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Posted - 2008.07.31 17:27:00 -
[80]
Originally by: Tarminic
Originally by: Slanty McGarglefist
Originally by: Tarminic
Originally by: ivar R'dhak I say anybody with the name Ghaylente deserves what fate has in store for him.
So yeah, treat her like a princess and apologize profusely to her whenever she accuses you of imagined or actual(very rare) wrongdoings. Under no circumstance dare to raise your voice at her when she starts yelling. And for the sake of everything holy don¦t ever stop saying Yes Dear after every whimsical wish she states.
This way you¦ll experience womanity at it¦s best. 
In case anyone doesn't know, this is actually a terrible idea.
The end result of this "strategy" is women who nag their husbands constantly because the men lost or had no balls.
That's the best case scenario. Worst case is that she dumps your ass for being an insincere, patronizing pushover. Which you are at that point. 
You actually got it back a$$ward. Her dumping him would return his balls to his rightful place and he hopefully would have learned a lifelesson. A lesson many men don¦t get till their death. _ Mal-`Appears we got here just in a nick of time. What does that make us?¦ Zoe-¦Big damn heroes sir.¦ Mal-¦Aint we just.¦ |
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Tarminic
24th Imperial Crusade
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Posted - 2008.07.31 17:36:00 -
[81]
Originally by: ivar R'dhak You actually got it back a$$ward. Her dumping him would return his balls to his rightful place and he hopefully would have learned a lifelesson. A lesson many men don¦t get till their death.
Or we could tell him the correct method and he won't have to waste his time and effort in a shitty, unhappy relationship until he gets dumped.  ---------------- Play EVE: Downtime Madness v0.83 (Updated 7/3) |

ivar R'dhak
STK Scientific
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Posted - 2008.07.31 17:42:00 -
[82]
Originally by: Tarminic
Originally by: ivar R'dhak You actually got it back a$$ward. Her dumping him would return his balls to his rightful place and he hopefully would have learned a lifelesson. A lesson many men don¦t get till their death.
Or we could tell him the correct method and he won't have to waste his time and effort in a shitty, unhappy relationship until he gets dumped. 
What do you think would be the odds for that actually working? Uhm, his name is Ghaylente, just for a reminder. 
_ Mal-`Appears we got here just in a nick of time. What does that make us?¦ Zoe-¦Big damn heroes sir.¦ Mal-¦Aint we just.¦ |

Tarminic
24th Imperial Crusade
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Posted - 2008.07.31 17:46:00 -
[83]
Originally by: ivar R'dhak
Originally by: Tarminic
Originally by: ivar R'dhak You actually got it back a$$ward. Her dumping him would return his balls to his rightful place and he hopefully would have learned a lifelesson. A lesson many men don¦t get till their death.
Or we could tell him the correct method and he won't have to waste his time and effort in a shitty, unhappy relationship until he gets dumped. 
What do you think would be the odds for that actually working? Uhm, his name is Ghaylente, just for a reminder. 
Well, we could at least have said that we tried. ---------------- Play EVE: Downtime Madness v0.83 (Updated 7/3) |

ivar R'dhak
STK Scientific
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Posted - 2008.07.31 17:50:00 -
[84]
Optimist. _ Mal-`Appears we got here just in a nick of time. What does that make us?¦ Zoe-¦Big damn heroes sir.¦ Mal-¦Aint we just.¦ |

Pwett
Minmatar QUANT Corp. QUANT Hegemony
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Posted - 2008.07.31 19:27:00 -
[85]
Originally by: Tarminic Communication is the foundation of a good relationship,
Oh Tarminic, you are such a cad! _______________ Pwett CEO, Founder, & Executor <Q> QUANT Hegemony
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Dantes Revenge
Caldari
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Posted - 2008.07.31 19:47:00 -
[86]
Yup, sounds like pretty much every woman I've ever dated. There are various stages they often try to get their way.
Moody Offering you a good time Crying Implying that you are the selfish one Temper tantrums Threatening to leave you
There's a load more but if you actually want a quiet life where you have the enjoyment of doing what and when you please, stay single. If you want someone who tells you what to do, where to go, when to do it and goes into one when you don't do her bidding, you're on the right path already.
Women, you can't live with them but surprisingly, you can easily live without them.
-- There's a simple difference between kinky and perverted. Kinky is using a feather to get her in the mood. Perverted is using the whole chicken. |

Ryysa
Paisti Paisti Syndicate
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Posted - 2008.07.31 20:39:00 -
[87]
Originally by: Dantes Revenge Yup, sounds like pretty much every woman I've ever dated. There are various stages they often try to get their way.
Moody Offering you a good time Crying Implying that you are the selfish one Temper tantrums Threatening to leave you
There's a load more but if you actually want a quiet life where you have the enjoyment of doing what and when you please, stay single. If you want someone who tells you what to do, where to go, when to do it and goes into one when you don't do her bidding, you're on the right path already.
Women, you can't live with them but surprisingly, you can easily live without them.
There is a simple cure for that. Get a girl who has grown up mostly around guys (and I mean from an early age) and you will have a lot less of the typical female problems.
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Tarminic
24th Imperial Crusade
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Posted - 2008.07.31 21:01:00 -
[88]
Edited by: Tarminic on 31/07/2008 21:01:16
Originally by: Ryysa There is a simple cure for that. Get a girl who has grown up
Fixed.  ---------------- Play EVE: Downtime Madness v0.83 (Updated 7/3) |

Tarminic
24th Imperial Crusade
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Posted - 2008.07.31 21:02:00 -
[89]
Originally by: Pwett
Originally by: Tarminic Communication is the foundation of a good relationship,
Oh Tarminic, you are such a cad!
Say what you want, but it's true.  ---------------- Play EVE: Downtime Madness v0.83 (Updated 7/3) |

Ryysa
Paisti Paisti Syndicate
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Posted - 2008.07.31 21:08:00 -
[90]
Originally by: Tarminic Edited by: Tarminic on 31/07/2008 21:01:16
Originally by: Ryysa There is a simple cure for that. Get a girl who has grown up
Fixed. 
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Isiskhan
Gnostic Misanthropy
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Posted - 2008.07.31 21:39:00 -
[91]
Originally by: Dantes Revenge Yup, sounds like pretty much every woman I've ever dated. There are various stages they often try to get their way.
Moody Offering you a good time Crying Implying that you are the selfish one Temper tantrums Threatening to leave you
While many women will try to pull off these sort things, there are effective ways to handle and neutralize them. Basically, once your partner realizes that this sort of emotional blackmail is useless - or even counter-productive - on yourself, you'll see a whole lot less of it.
It's like with the trolling on online forums: the way to minimize it is to simply not nourish that sort of attitude. |

Spaztick
Canadian Imperial Armaments EVESpace
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Posted - 2008.07.31 21:46:00 -
[92]
And now we end the thread with an appropriate motivational poster for the OP to hang on his wall:
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ivar R'dhak
STK Scientific
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Posted - 2008.08.01 02:47:00 -
[93]
Followed by the appropriate link:
http://www.menarebetterthanwomen.com/ _ Mal-`Appears we got here just in a nick of time. What does that make us?¦ Zoe-¦Big damn heroes sir.¦ Mal-¦Aint we just.¦ |

Victor Valka
Caldari Kissaki Corporation
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Posted - 2008.08.01 03:44:00 -
[94]
Originally by: Isiskhan
Originally by: Dantes Revenge Yup, sounds like pretty much every woman I've ever dated. There are various stages they often try to get their way.
Moody Offering you a good time Crying Implying that you are the selfish one Temper tantrums Threatening to leave you
While many women will try to pull off these sort things, there are effective ways to handle and neutralize them. Basically, once your partner realizes that this sort of emotional blackmail is useless - or even counter-productive - on yourself, you'll see a whole lot less of it.
Honestly, a woman trying to pull any of the above is a valid reason to terminate a relationship. You can't change a person.
Originally by: Spaztick You are not outnumbered, you are in a target-rich environment.
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Amandin Adouin
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Posted - 2008.08.01 03:52:00 -
[95]
I think its funny how the OP never once responded back to this thread, but his comments spawned all of this discussion about what kind of behavior is acceptable from women and how to handle it... it appears to be quite the hot topic. I'm just wondering if he really even cared what the answer was... or if he just wanted to vent.
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Victor Valka
Caldari Kissaki Corporation
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Posted - 2008.08.01 03:57:00 -
[96]
Originally by: Amandin Adouin I think its funny how the OP never once responded back to this thread, but his comments spawned all of this discussion about what kind of behavior is acceptable from women and how to handle it... it appears to be quite the hot topic. I'm just wondering if he really even cared what the answer was... or if he just wanted to vent.
Or maybe the that gal got to him before he could read our advice!
We will never know...
Originally by: Spaztick You are not outnumbered, you are in a target-rich environment.
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Isiskhan
Gnostic Misanthropy
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Posted - 2008.08.01 04:23:00 -
[97]
Originally by: Victor Valka Honestly, a woman trying to pull any of the above is a valid reason to terminate a relationship. You can't change a person.
That may be your experience - certainly not mine.
And it's not just with women: no one is going to learn to respect you as long as you don't respect yourself. If they manage to walk all over you, is because you're letting them to. The way people will act towards you is greatly influenced by how you act towards them, it's simple as that.
While there are of course many valid reasons to terminate a relationship - hell, I broke up with my last girlfriend because she claimed I would have to get rid of my Death Metal collection if we were to have children (that's of course an over-simplification) - if you can't properly handle your partner's shit, then perhaps you're not ready for relationships. Because in the end, that's one of the things that matter: the ability and willingness to properly handle each other's particular brand of shit.
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Victor Valka
Caldari Kissaki Corporation
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Posted - 2008.08.01 06:31:00 -
[98]
Originally by: Isiskhan That may be your experience - certainly not mine.
And it's not just with women: no one is going to learn to respect you as long as you don't respect yourself. If they manage to walk all over you, is because you're letting them to. The way people will act towards you is greatly influenced by how you act towards them, it's simple as that.
While there are of course many valid reasons to terminate a relationship - hell, I broke up with my last girlfriend because she claimed I would have to get rid of my Death Metal collection if we were to have children (that's of course an over-simplification) - if you can't properly handle your partner's shit, then perhaps you're not ready for relationships. Because in the end, that's one of the things that matter: the ability and willingness to properly handle each other's particular brand of shit.
Let me make this very clear: I do respect myself. And, yes, I have my own oddities, hobbies and interests (I play an Internet spaceship game, for crying out loud! ) that I expect my partner to understand and deal with in a mature fashion. In turn, I am more then willing to deal with theirs, or I would not be in the relationship to start with!
However, since we already determined that I respect myself, I'm not going to deal with no-body's 'shit'. 'Shit' being 'unreasonable and/or abusive behavior'. If I get 'shit', of which common examples were listed in the post above, I will terminate the relationship.
Example of a reasonable behavior: Suggesting that we spend more time together, engaging in activities we both enjoy, instead of me playing with Internet spaceship.
Example of 'shit': Demending, in a fit of girly rage, that I stop playing with my Internet spaceships or else...
The difference is quite explicit.
In the former case, I will oblige - spending time together, doing things both partners enjoy, is one of the joys of a relationship - I would not be in a one if I didn't want that. In the later case - NEXT!
Bottom line - I'm going to look for what's best and what I want in a relationship, you know, because I'm so unreasonably selfish. If I don't find it - the relationship is terminated.
(And before you start making assumptions about what I want in a relationship - forget it. You have no clue.)
Originally by: Spaztick You are not outnumbered, you are in a target-rich environment.
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Taradis
Amarr The Imperial Assassins Ethereal Dawn
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Posted - 2008.08.01 07:45:00 -
[99]
Originally by: MotherMoon
Originally by: Imran put it in her butt.
what what?
Theirs nuffin wrong with a lil butt sex I can't get my g/f to let me try it and the one time I did I got backhanded WOOPS!!!!!! sorry baby cakes /me gets back handed 
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Taradis
Amarr The Imperial Assassins Ethereal Dawn
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Posted - 2008.08.01 07:45:00 -
[100]
Originally by: Wil Smithx
Originally by: MotherMoon
Originally by: Imran put it in her butt.
what what?
ROFL - I hope this can become the new rickroll
I have gotten rick rolled 3 times on friggin youtube lmao!!!
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Taradis
Amarr The Imperial Assassins Ethereal Dawn
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Posted - 2008.08.01 07:46:00 -
[101]
Originally by: Wil Smithx
Originally by: Kaeten
Originally by: Taradis
Originally by: Kaeten oh man my ex then... sounds the same when we hit 6 months, however jsut got worse and worse, eventully she kinda punched me once in an argument with fists @ my face.
was a year ago we broke up, last month we had an argument of somekind she broke out her fists again, was bleeding from my lip and had a mark round my neck..
do like the other guys say tell her you need space, if she gets in a hassle/mood about that get out if your sad/unhappy..
don't do what I did and stay it out, I regret it..
Ouch yea my Dad told me to never hit a lady but their are some exceptions to this. When my g/f n I get into it most of the time cuz she's drunk and she's a mean drunk I just pick her up throw her over my shoulders slam her ass on the bed and tell her if she comes out imma bust her in the lip and not to talk to me until she sobers up... works to an extent never hit her tho which I am glad cuz i have a bad temper and i don't need the title of g/f beater added to me plus no matter what I would never hit a women closed fisted or at all for that matter cuz its just weak maybe I was raised right who knows
I was raised the same way, I never hit back at her, worst I've done is take by both arms and shout at her to calm down and stop. She was also a violent drunk however she could get violent sober too...
Never again lol
Damned straight, shake the shit out of that *****, then make her do the washing up!
***** get in the kitchen and make some pie!!!!!!!!! 
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Taradis
Amarr The Imperial Assassins Ethereal Dawn
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Posted - 2008.08.01 07:48:00 -
[102]
Originally by: CCP Eris Discordia Edited by: CCP Eris Discordia on 30/07/2008 16:38:42 following is here to protect the somewhat innocent If she is hitting you, well I guess the next question is whether you are in to that. If you are I think you should tell her that there is a time and a place for that, it comes with props and safewords.
If she is being an immature ***** who cannot express her frustration in any other way then I think you might want to sit her down and tell her to stop the hissy fitting violence and learn how to deal with life in a more responsible way.
If it doesn't help, leave her.
Honestly, the reason why girls and even some women can act like this is because they can get away with it. Don't put up with it because it might get worse.
I second that notion 
Wow Eris heh heh ya i agree all it is, is atention theirs positive attention and negative attention and if youv'e tried everythin else. Call Dr. Phil and have him str8en the ***** out..
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Taradis
Amarr The Imperial Assassins Ethereal Dawn
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Posted - 2008.08.01 07:50:00 -
[103]
Originally by: Akita T
Originally by: Tarminic
Originally by: Akita T Short and painful version (as in, screaming, shouting and possible occasional pummeling by her on your hide if you don't hurry and blurt it all out from a safe distance): [thestuff] Stuff like that. Best uttered while running away  [/joke]
Fool! She can still chase you down and/or throw things at you while running away. Follow up your statement with a smokebomb and ninja-like exit.
Poor planning. You can't possibly hope to tell her ALL of that before you use the smokebomb ! You have to start saying that, then when she starts to come closer, THEN you start wunning, and you throw the smokebomb and make the ninja exit AFTER you finished saying it all ! Using the phone is not a good idea, she can just hang up then come to your home and pummel you when you least expect it, because she knew what you were going to say (but you don't know that for sure). Well, you could ninja-hide somewhere close and use ventriloquism to project your voice from somehwere else. Or wear her out, then implant a small speaker close to her ear, and deliver the speech remotely.

LMAO!!!! now ya c me now ya don't or you could pull james bond
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Taradis
Amarr The Imperial Assassins Ethereal Dawn
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Posted - 2008.08.01 07:51:00 -
[104]
Originally by: Tarminic
Originally by: Yoshimako if someone really goes for you, then you go back, with equal force. Man or woman. If a woman really goes for, and i mean really goes for you not slapping, then I can't see how anyone can brand you a woman beating moron.
Women are all after equal rights surely this is all part and parcel? 
Except men, on average, hit a lot harder than women. Equal force, when it comes to dealing with a woman attacking you, means that you restrain her without actually beating the crap out of her.
But if a woman comes at you and she's as strong as you are, then I'd say hitting is justifiable. 
Do a Jackie Chan over the counter hi YA!!
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Taradis
Amarr The Imperial Assassins Ethereal Dawn
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Posted - 2008.08.01 07:52:00 -
[105]
Originally by: Highwind Cid
Originally by: Istvaan Shogaatsu Beat her terribly with a burlap sack full of oranges.
I thought a pillowcase full of doorknobs would do the trick. But yours sounds tastier.
U also get vitamin C 
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The Socialworker
Minmatar The Socialworkers
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Posted - 2008.08.01 12:14:00 -
[106]
Originally by: ivar R'dhak Domestic abuse isn¦t wieghed towards one gender. Man and woman abuse each other equally. It¦s just the men who don¦t report it.[/quote
And I imagine just how seriously the average copper would take it if they did. In my experience (London) police are about as sexist as men come. A friend of mines' girlfriend used to lay into him when he came home late, then call the police and get him arrested, a night in the cells, and a 50/100 pound fine for disturbing the peace. Happened several times, and I saw it first hand once.
Or the sh*t my exGF used to get away with riding a bit crazy, on her illegal bikes, just by fluttering her eyes at the copper and playing dumb.
Or the poor b**tard friend who's ex made all sorts of allegations in revenge, after finding out he had been seeing another woman as well as her for years, so that he only got to see his son twice a month for half an hour each time of supervised visits. etc etc.
If a woman is a bit evil minded, she can use the police like her own personal sledgehammer against her boyfriend/husband.
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Plumpy McPudding
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Posted - 2008.08.01 12:18:00 -
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As the T-1000 said in Terminator 2, "GET OUT!" __________________________
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Slanty McGarglefist
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Posted - 2008.08.01 12:19:00 -
[108]
Originally by: Plumpy McPudding As the T-1000 said in Terminator 2, "GET OUT!"
GET TO DA CHOPPA!!! __________________________________________________
Originally by: CCP Wrangler No
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Isiskhan
Gnostic Misanthropy
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Posted - 2008.08.01 13:30:00 -
[109]
Originally by: Victor Valka 'Shit' being 'unreasonable and/or abusive behavior'. If I get 'shit', of which common examples were listed in the post above, I will terminate the relationship.
You think a woman being "moody", "crying" or having "temper tantrums" is "abusive behaviour" and cause for terminating a relationship?
Good luck finding a woman who doesn't do that at one point or another, they are genetically programed to act that way - particularly every 28 days
The question is how you're able to handle those, and thinking they are abusing you somehow everytime they cry or sulk is victimizing yourself.
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Shirley Serious
Imperial Academy
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Posted - 2008.08.01 13:51:00 -
[110]
If you see each other every day, go to the same school and stuff, then you're possibly too close to each other. This is not good, as you feel like you're being shadowed, spied on, etc. and you notice every little fault that each other has, and then the nagging starts.
You're stuck for things to idly talk about as well.
What do you do when you're together anyway? anything in particular?
Try saying something like "if we're always together, then spending time together isn't special"
Men need time on their own to do man stuff, women need time on their own to do woman stuff, and the world would be a better place if more people realised this.
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Victor Valka
Caldari Kissaki Corporation
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Posted - 2008.08.01 14:49:00 -
[111]
Originally by: Isiskhan You think a woman being "moody", "crying" or having "temper tantrums" is "abusive behavior" and cause for terminating a relationship?
No. But they are all too often used as an excuse for. Poor wording on my part in the previous post.
It's OK to feel 'bad' or 'down' - people who care about you will do their best to comfort you. It's not, however, OK to extend your negative feelings to others on purpose - that is, in my book, psychological abuse. My parents made this very clear when they raised me - me feeling bad is not a valid excuse to be a bastard to others. Looking back now - a really important lesson.
Originally by: Isiskhan Good luck finding a woman who doesn't do that at one point or another, they are genetically programed to act that way - particularly every 28 days 
They can learn some basic self-control or GTFO. Somehow everyone expect men to control themselves even at the worst of times, but women are given free pass. I'm not a fan of double standards.
Originally by: Spaztick You are not outnumbered, you are in a target-rich environment.
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Ryysa
Paisti Paisti Syndicate
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Posted - 2008.08.01 15:48:00 -
[112]
Originally by: Shirley Serious If you see each other every day, go to the same school and stuff, then you're possibly too close to each other. This is not good, as you feel like you're being shadowed, spied on, etc. and you notice every little fault that each other has, and then the nagging starts.
You're stuck for things to idly talk about as well.
What do you do when you're together anyway? anything in particular?
Try saying something like "if we're always together, then spending time together isn't special"
How do you propose living together in that case? Or going on vacation...
Quote: Men need time on their own to do man stuff, women need time on their own to do woman stuff, and the world would be a better place if more people realised this.
I agree with that, but what stops you from doing just that in the same room? My better half is just fine with me doing something on the computer, she just takes her laptop and reads a book or something interesting in the web in the meanwhile...
I am against relationships where one partner tells the other what to do all the time though, especially if it goes against their interests.
EW Guide - KB Tool - My Music |

Shirley Serious
Imperial Academy
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Posted - 2008.08.01 16:32:00 -
[113]
Originally by: Ryysa How do you propose living together in that case? Or going on vacation...
If you both have jobs, or at least both have something that takes you out of the house, then you have plenty of things to talk about, and are apart long enough for time together to feel special. Continuing to go on dates whilst living together is also good.
Holidays can be a bit harder, true. Let me think for a while.
Originally by: Ryysa
I agree with that, but what stops you from doing just that in the same room?
Nothing really, except maybe the feeling that you're being watched. It bugs me if someone else is in the room when I'm looking at shoes on the internet for example.
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Amandin Adouin
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Posted - 2008.08.01 16:42:00 -
[114]
Edited by: Amandin Adouin on 01/08/2008 16:48:19 Edited by: Amandin Adouin on 01/08/2008 16:45:39
Originally by: Shirley Serious
Originally by: Ryysa How do you propose living together in that case? Or going on vacation...
If you both have jobs, or at least both have something that takes you out of the house, then you have plenty of things to talk about, and are apart long enough for time together to feel special. Continuing to go on dates whilst living together is also good.
Holidays can be a bit harder, true. Let me think for a while.
Originally by: Ryysa
I agree with that, but what stops you from doing just that in the same room?
Nothing really, except maybe the feeling that you're being watched. It bugs me if someone else is in the room when I'm looking at shoes on the internet for example.
Shoe fetishist? No surely (and seriously), this is actually a really difficult thing to balance when you're dating someone. I've always played video games so it's even harder to make sure you have time apart. You kind of have to make yourself go out with your girl-friends, even if what you really feel like doing is staying at home and playing Eve. You definately need to have time apart though, just so you're able to always bring something new to the table, and so you don't start taking each other for granted. But you have to balance this with growing together, so you don't grow apart.
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ivar R'dhak
STK Scientific
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Posted - 2008.08.01 16:47:00 -
[115]
Originally by: Victor Valka
Originally by: Isiskhan You think a woman being "moody", "crying" or having "temper tantrums" is "abusive behavior" and cause for terminating a relationship?
No. But they are all too often used as an excuse for. Poor wording on my part in the previous post.
This. PMS has also the magic ability of instantly vanishing when mom or best girlfriend calls up. _ Mal-`Appears we got here just in a nick of time. What does that make us?¦ Zoe-¦Big damn heroes sir.¦ Mal-¦Aint we just.¦ |

Isiskhan
Gnostic Misanthropy
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Posted - 2008.08.01 16:53:00 -
[116]
Originally by: ivar R'dhak
Originally by: Victor Valka
Originally by: Isiskhan You think a woman being "moody", "crying" or having "temper tantrums" is "abusive behavior" and cause for terminating a relationship?
No. But they are all too often used as an excuse for. Poor wording on my part in the previous post.
This. PMS has also the magic ability of instantly vanishing when mom or best girlfriend calls up.
If you are both feeling "psychologically abused" by standard-fare female-*****iness you both need to grow thicker skins. You are only being "abused" because you are allowing them to or making yourself susceptible to it.
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Antodias
North Eastern Swat Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2008.08.01 16:58:00 -
[117]
Originally by: Isiskhan
If you are both feeling "psychologically abused" by standard-fare female-*****iness you both need to grow thicker skins. You are only being "abused" because you are allowing them to or making yourself susceptible to it.
ITT we learn that you have no clue how the human psyche works.
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Victor Valka
Caldari Kissaki Corporation
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Posted - 2008.08.01 18:31:00 -
[118]
Originally by: Isiskhan If you are both feeling "psychologically abused" by standard-fare female-*****iness you both need to grow thicker skins. You are only being "abused" because you are allowing them to or making yourself susceptible to it.
Make up your bloody mind and review your stance and arguments! Right now, you're not making any sense.
(And try to read what I'm saying.)
Or not. Enjoy being a doormat for some skank with a princess syndrome.
Originally by: Spaztick You are not outnumbered, you are in a target-rich environment.
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YouGotRipped
Ewigkeit
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Posted - 2008.08.01 18:38:00 -
[119]
Edited by: YouGotRipped on 01/08/2008 18:39:37
Just dump her and get another one.
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Isiskhan
Gnostic Misanthropy
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Posted - 2008.08.01 19:15:00 -
[120]
Originally by: Victor Valka Make up your bloody mind and review your stance and arguments! Right now, you're not making any sense.
Hey, it's not rocket science.
But then I gather from all your yada-yada about "psychological abuse" that either you're a wuss who cries all the way back to mommy's house whenever your bitch acts up (or makes a thread on some internet forums about it like the OP) instead of properly putting her back in her place, or that you simply don't have much experience with the opposite sex.
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Ryysa
Paisti Paisti Syndicate
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Posted - 2008.08.01 19:20:00 -
[121]
Originally by: Shirley Serious Holidays can be a bit harder, true. Let me think for a while.
It's actually easy, since I doubt you will stay at your home during the holidays all the time...
Quote:
Originally by: Ryysa
I agree with that, but what stops you from doing just that in the same room?
Nothing really, except maybe the feeling that you're being watched. It bugs me if someone else is in the room when I'm looking at shoes on the internet for example.
I don't see why it bugs you? If you have zero trust towards eachother, perhaps. We just kinda don't stick our nose into eachother's computers... like "OH HEY WHAT ARE YOU DOING RIGHT NOW"... I don't see why it is remotely interesting also.
EW Guide - KB Tool - My Music |

Victor Valka
Caldari Kissaki Corporation
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Posted - 2008.08.01 19:23:00 -
[122]
Originally by: Isiskhan
Originally by: Victor Valka Make up your bloody mind and review your stance and arguments! Right now, you're not making any sense.
Hey, it's not rocket science.
But then I gather from all your yada-yada about "psychological abuse" that either you're a wuss who cries all the way back to mommy's house whenever your bitch acts up (or makes a thread on some internet forums about it like the OP) instead of properly putting her back in her place, or that you simply don't have much experience with the opposite sex.
Out with the ad hominem attack. Right.
You keep on believing whatever you will. I'm going my way.
Originally by: Spaztick You are not outnumbered, you are in a target-rich environment.
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Malcanis
We are Legend
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Posted - 2008.08.01 20:17:00 -
[123]
Originally by: Isiskhan
Originally by: Victor Valka Make up your bloody mind and review your stance and arguments! Right now, you're not making any sense.
Hey, it's not rocket science.
But then I gather from all your yada-yada about "psychological abuse" that either you're a wuss who cries all the way back to mommy's house whenever your bitch acts up (or makes a thread on some internet forums about it like the OP) instead of properly putting her back in her place, or that you simply don't have much experience with the opposite sex.
If you don't think there's such thing as psychological abuse then all I can say is that I feel glad for you that you've never been on the receiving end. Because there certainly is.
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Amandin Adouin
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Posted - 2008.08.01 20:26:00 -
[124]
Edited by: Amandin Adouin on 01/08/2008 20:26:45
Originally by: Isiskhan ...you're a wuss who cries all the way back to mommy's house whenever your bitch acts up ... instead of properly putting her back in her place
Wow. Wow. Wow. 
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Shirley Serious
Imperial Academy
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Posted - 2008.08.01 20:50:00 -
[125]
Originally by: Ryysa
I don't see why it bugs you?
I'm probably just a very private person.
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Isiskhan
Gnostic Misanthropy
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Posted - 2008.08.01 21:16:00 -
[126]
Edited by: Isiskhan on 01/08/2008 21:20:34
Originally by: Amandin Adouin Okay sorry for the edits but I just have to say something about this and I have absolutely no idea what to say. I don't know whether to make a joke (something about Ike Turner keeps going through my head) or ... cry 
Pfft... Ike Turner was a professional asshole, an exploiter, and a cheating junkie low-life who did all the wrong drugs.
At least I do the right drugs.
ps: just kidding ;) pps: well, not about the drugs. I do smoke a lot of home-grown prime-grade weed.
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Amandin Adouin
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Posted - 2008.08.01 21:32:00 -
[127]
Edited by: Amandin Adouin on 01/08/2008 21:32:57
Originally by: Isiskhan Edited by: Isiskhan on 01/08/2008 21:20:34
Originally by: Amandin Adouin Okay sorry for the edits but I just have to say something about this and I have absolutely no idea what to say. I don't know whether to make a joke (something about Ike Turner keeps going through my head) or ... cry 
Pfft... Ike Turner was a professional asshole, an exploiter, and a cheating junkie low-life who did all the wrong drugs.
At least I do the right drugs. ps: just kidding ;) pps: well, not about the drugs. I do smoke a lot of home-grown prime-grade weed.

I know you were kidding and that I took it out of context, I just couldn't miss out on commenting on that hilarious statement 
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Dantes Revenge
Caldari
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Posted - 2008.08.03 05:55:00 -
[128]
Originally by: Victor Valka Example of a reasonable behavior: Suggesting that we spend more time together, engaging in activities we both enjoy, instead of me playing with Internet spaceship.
Example of 'shit': Demending, in a fit of girly rage, that I stop playing with my Internet spaceships or else...
The difference is quite explicit.
In the former case, I will oblige - spending time together, doing things both partners enjoy, is one of the joys of a relationship - I would not be in a one if I didn't want that. In the later case - NEXT!
Where does reasonable stop and unreasonable begin though?
Using the example you used above of reasonable behaviour: She suggests you spend more quality time together which ends up being all the time so you have no time for yourselves.
While she may feel comfortable with that, you may find this too demanding and restrictive. Therefore, in your view, this may begin to feel like unreasonable behaviour. But where does the borderline lie? That is for the individual to decide because we all have our own tolerance levels.
I am in a relationship with a Philippino woman, she is far more mature in her attitude than any Western woman I have ever met even though she's only half my age. She recognises that time to yourself is necessary for a good relationship. You can't be in each others pockets all the time or it becomes stifling and restrictive. She also recognises that I have spent a long time on my own and the time I require to myself is probably a good deal more than most men due to having so much time in the past. She is mature enough to realise that if she pushes, I will feel restricted and it could result in me leaving her.
How these demands are worded and they are just as much a demand as an outright order for you to give up Eve, does not necessarily mean that she is being reasonable. What is reasonable is coming to an agreement regarding how much time you spend together and how much time out you both have.
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