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Haniblecter Teg
F.R.E.E. Explorer Elitist Cowards
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Posted - 2008.08.09 07:04:00 -
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This is really a valid tactic? One that ccp endorses?
Cloak, then afk in your enemies ratting system for 22.5 hours a day, 7 days a week.
For the remaining half an hour--the time when you're not tooling around with your alt--you uncloak, scan out a ratter, and gank them.
We have a guy like this named Ghostthor. He's a raging **** for this.
CCP do something about this pure ********* ----------------- Friends Forever |
Tobias Sjodin
Ore Mongers Black Hand.
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Posted - 2008.08.09 07:05:00 -
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For the single reason that you're whining about one guy in local threatening your space, it's a valid (and good) game-mechanic.
Black Hand.
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Sweet Laylah
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Posted - 2008.08.09 07:09:00 -
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Alliance name says it all tbh
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Ioci
Gallente Ioci Exploration
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Posted - 2008.08.09 07:13:00 -
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I see this too. 1 guy can't gank me. 2 can give me trouble. 3 means you fleet up to get rid of them. I don't know. Cloakers don't bother me. There are always people on who would rather be PvPing and are more than happy to sentry the system, waiting for someone to flag a belt. Often with 1 and 2 reds, I will go to a belt and bait rat. Have fun with it. If you are that tight for ISK, go to another system. I just think you are misreading the problem. Fly safe! |
Alekseyev Karrde
Noir. Trinity Nova Alliance
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Posted - 2008.08.09 07:21:00 -
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Tobias and Ioci make excellent counter points.
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Astorothe
Aperture Science Industries
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Posted - 2008.08.09 07:31:00 -
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What do you want CCP to do for you?
Would you like your own secure piece of 0.0 space that only you and your buddies have access too? Do you want CCP to log people out of the game if they sit in space cloaked? Do you want any sort of competition and risk in this game?
Honestly - what do you want? What do you think the answer is?
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InDa Hood
Forum Trolls Inc.
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Posted - 2008.08.09 07:36:00 -
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Edited by: InDa Hood on 09/08/2008 07:35:55 AFK Cloaking is one of the most ridiculous problems to plaque EVE. Who knows what they could be doing, afk cloaked....
Eating a sammich? Washing their hands? bio break?
NOT PLAYING EVE!?!?!?
Coincidence?
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Haniblecter Teg
F.R.E.E. Explorer Elitist Cowards
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Posted - 2008.08.09 07:40:00 -
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Originally by: Ioci I see this too. 1 guy can't gank me. 2 can give me trouble. 3 means you fleet up to get rid of them. I don't know. Cloakers don't bother me. There are always people on who would rather be PvPing and are more than happy to sentry the system, waiting for someone to flag a belt. Often with 1 and 2 reds, I will go to a belt and bait rat. Have fun with it. If you are that tight for ISK, go to another system. I just think you are misreading the problem. Fly safe!
Why should I have to go to another system (they always choose the best) to accommodate for his 'valid' game mechanics....game mechanics that allow a person to afk for most of the day until they decide they want to actually want to 'play'.
Game mechanics that prevents you from doing anything to correct the problem.
Taken to the extreme, you can have everyone in an alliance afk cloak their alts in an enemy system/s. What are you going to do there? Is that a truly valid tactic? Or is it more akin to griefing?
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Haniblecter Teg
F.R.E.E. Explorer Elitist Cowards
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Posted - 2008.08.09 07:42:00 -
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Edited by: Haniblecter Teg on 09/08/2008 07:42:42
Originally by: InDa Hood Edited by: InDa Hood on 09/08/2008 07:35:55 AFK Cloaking is one of the most ridiculous problems to plaque EVE. Who knows what they could be doing, afk cloaked....
Eating a sammich? Washing their hands? bio break?
NOT PLAYING EVE!?!?!?
Coincidence?
How about giong to work for 10 hours like the guy I mentioned.
****.
And if you're playing eve and need to get a sammich all of the sudden....LOG OUT! Dont stay safe and secure in your silly recon. ----------------- Friends Forever |
InDa Hood
Forum Trolls Inc.
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Posted - 2008.08.09 07:50:00 -
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Edited by: InDa Hood on 09/08/2008 07:51:09 Edited by: InDa Hood on 09/08/2008 07:50:51
Originally by: Haniblecter Teg
How about giong to work for 10 hours like the guy I mentioned.
Everyone forgets things, like logging.
Originally by: Haniblecter Teg
And if you're playing eve and need to get a sammich all of the sudden....LOG OUT! Dont stay safe and secure in your silly recon.
But then whining carebears who can't fit PvP ships to fight through ganks wouldn't come to the forums crying...
What then?
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Haniblecter Teg
F.R.E.E. Explorer Elitist Cowards
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Posted - 2008.08.09 08:06:00 -
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Edited by: Haniblecter Teg on 09/08/2008 08:08:46
Originally by: InDa Hood Edited by: InDa Hood on 09/08/2008 07:51:09 Edited by: InDa Hood on 09/08/2008 07:50:51
Originally by: Haniblecter Teg
How about giong to work for 10 hours like the guy I mentioned.
Everyone forgets things, like logging.
Originally by: Haniblecter Teg
And if you're playing eve and need to get a sammich all of the sudden....LOG OUT! Dont stay safe and secure in your silly recon.
But then whining carebears who can't fit PvP ships to fight through ganks wouldn't come to the forums crying...
What then?
Oh yea, cause the problem is Im just not fighting him. That all I have to do is hop in a nano of my own and take him down.
Oh wait, he's cloaked.
And carebear? Watch your tongue little boy, even bears eat berries.
And fight through ganks? What? Have you even read the thread? Cloakers dont gate camp, so there's nothing to 'fight through'. ----------------- Friends Forever |
Arvald
Caldari Ninjas N Pirates Pirate Coalition
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Posted - 2008.08.09 08:09:00 -
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Originally by: InDa Hood Edited by: InDa Hood on 09/08/2008 07:35:55 AFK Cloaking is one of the most ridiculous problems to plaque EVE. Who knows what they could be doing, afk cloaked....
Eating a sammich? Washing their hands? bio break?
NOT PLAYING EVE!?!?!?
Coincidence?
or god forbit looking up ****.......not that id ever do such a thing >_>
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Haniblecter Teg
F.R.E.E. Explorer Elitist Cowards
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Posted - 2008.08.09 08:16:00 -
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Edited by: Haniblecter Teg on 09/08/2008 08:16:28
Originally by: Arvald
Originally by: InDa Hood Edited by: InDa Hood on 09/08/2008 07:35:55 AFK Cloaking is one of the most ridiculous problems to plaque EVE. Who knows what they could be doing, afk cloaked....
Eating a sammich? Washing their hands? bio break?
NOT PLAYING EVE!?!?!?
Coincidence?
or god forbit looking up ****.......not that id ever do such a thing >_>
You're afk cloaked in a system for 23/7: Wake up. Log on to main after dt. You go to work. You take the kids to soccer practice, you pork the misses. You do two missions with your alt in empire. You pick up the kids from practice. You check your afk cloaker in the system. You eat dinner. You go to bed.
Valid Game Mechanic or Grief? ----------------- Friends Forever |
Aerieva
Sky Net Industries Pure.
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Posted - 2008.08.09 08:16:00 -
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Rat in pairs or use the system next door, leet afk cloaking tactic overcome.
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Haniblecter Teg
F.R.E.E. Explorer Elitist Cowards
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Posted - 2008.08.09 08:18:00 -
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Originally by: Aerieva Rat in pairs or use the system next door, leet afk cloaking tactic overcome.
Station system? Only a handful of good ratting systems? Why should regular players put up with griefing?
Any responses? ----------------- Friends Forever |
Haniblecter Teg
F.R.E.E. Explorer Elitist Cowards
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Posted - 2008.08.09 08:29:00 -
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In addition:
Is there any other like corollary to cloaking in general? Something where you're 'playing' but completely unfindable and therefore invincible.
Besides being in a station, no. Any other instance, people are able to get at you.
So in the very least, cloaking is easily the most ***** module in the game. People who use cloaks (with the exception of stealths, we need scouts) like to get as risk free as they can.
You want to defend that? Be my guest. But dont call this stand-up-and-fight mofo a *****.
Further, if you want to annoy an enemy, if you want to be in their ratting system causing havoc on your own, go for it. I'm all for it. But do it with 10 safe spots and buzzing around. Or logging on to kill stuff. Dont do it by afk'ing for half a day to, Im guessing, lull the enemy into expecting your away. That strikes me as griefing. ----------------- Friends Forever |
Feilamya
Minmatar Pelennor Swarm Souls of Vengeance
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Posted - 2008.08.09 08:30:00 -
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Here's an idea how to fix AFK cloaking:
Make cloakers invisible in local.
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Angry Cyno
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Posted - 2008.08.09 08:32:00 -
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By posting this EMO post you FAIL!
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Kurt Ambrose
Caldari Digital assassins
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Posted - 2008.08.09 08:36:00 -
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Originally by: Feilamya Here's an idea how to fix AFK cloaking:
Make cloakers invisible in local.
This
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Atrei Capital
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Posted - 2008.08.09 08:40:00 -
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Originally by: Angry Cyno By posting this EMO post you FAIL!
Wheres the emo?
Also: AFK cloaking is a cheesy tactic. The problem with a cloak is that it's an entirely passive module, requiring no thought or input, that makes you entirely invulnerable as long as you safe up.
There is no viable method for decloaking a safespotted cloaker. Your options are to either have PVPers camp the system for hours.. (Oh, yes, lots of fun, sitting around waiting for someone to uncloak ), or to go back to what your doing.. and let someone get ganked. After 12 hours, they uncloak, kill a miner, then recloak to afk again before anyone comes.
I would, however, support making the cloak have something like a 30 minute maximum timer.. followed by a 1 minute period where it does not function. To counter this, make cloakers dissapear from local: Give them actual stealth, but don't allow them to sit AFK and lock a system down. Then, they function as intended, not as a mere tool for an alt griefer. |
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Ulric Denrai
Amarr Glass House
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Posted - 2008.08.09 08:42:00 -
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It is problem for years ,when i was in bruce we had about 30 goons cloaked in 7bx (fountain).Thats the tactic they use to bring down a big alliance .And then we had also BURN EDEN cloaked in pinky.And then we had also another farmer corp cloaked in 3we that stole all the 10/10 exploration sites.
Why you think empire is the isk maker for members of a 0.0 alliance .The only guys that profit in 0.0 are the ceo`s and the holding corp.
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Angry Cyno
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Posted - 2008.08.09 08:45:00 -
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Cloaking is a in game mechanic.. use it or dont so guys stop *****ing and if you don't like it play WOW
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Dez Affinity
Ore Mongers Black Hand.
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Posted - 2008.08.09 08:47:00 -
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Don't rat in station systems, don't rat where there's 20 other guys.
If the guy is following you and cloaking, move. He's AFK he can't keep following. He poses no threat while he is AFK, if he was at his computer 23 hours, waiting for you to go to a belt, is that OK? If he was hopping safespots for 23 hours (still uncatchable) is that OK? _______________
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Atrei Capital
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Posted - 2008.08.09 08:52:00 -
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Originally by: Angry Cyno Cloaking is a in game mechanic.. use it or dont so guys stop *****ing and if you don't like it play WOW
You afk cloak, don't you?
Also, a magical "You can't attack me as long as I press this button" mode seems rather WoWlike, no? |
Angry Cyno
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Posted - 2008.08.09 08:54:00 -
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No i don't. i use it on my Raven to pvp :) happy
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Gone'Postal
Minmatar Vengeance 8 Interceptors
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Posted - 2008.08.09 08:55:00 -
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Ah the old AFK Cloaker Chestnut.
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Devaira
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Posted - 2008.08.09 08:58:00 -
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Originally by: InDa Hood Edited by: InDa Hood on 09/08/2008 07:35:55 AFK Cloaking is one of the most ridiculous problems to plaque EVE. Who knows what they could be doing, afk cloaked....
Eating a sammich? Washing their hands? bio break?
NOT PLAYING EVE!?!?!?
Coincidence?
or waiting for the newbie in his brand new ferox to grow tired and finally go rat in a belt only to get utterly pwned the next second ...
who knows, who knows ...
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Dez Affinity
Ore Mongers Black Hand.
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Posted - 2008.08.09 09:00:00 -
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Originally by: Devaira
or waiting for the newbie in his brand new ferox to grow tired and finally go rat in a belt only to get utterly pwned the next second ...
who knows, who knows ...
Ratting with hostiles in local and ratting with a Ferox, he deserves to die. _______________
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Ulric Denrai
Amarr Glass House
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Posted - 2008.08.09 09:13:00 -
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It`s not about ratting ,i agree you can rat all over the place. But most outpost are in solar systems where you have alot belts,where you have your mining posses your labs your jumpbridge.Share that with 20 30 people cloaked .
And it won`t help to have a gang next door or bait ,or bubble the gates Because you just sit there it`s more boring then any game the internet did invent.And those cloakers have ofc more accounts ,they are doeing missions in empire ,on the second screen they see whats going on where they are cloaked .
And don`t tell me how you counter cloakers ,because you can`t.Did it all saw it all.
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Dez Affinity
Ore Mongers Black Hand.
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Posted - 2008.08.09 09:30:00 -
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Originally by: Ulric Denrai
It`s not about ratting ,i agree you can rat all over the place. But most outpost are in solar systems where you have alot belts,where you have your mining posses your labs your jumpbridge.Share that with 20 30 people cloaked .
And it won`t help to have a gang next door or bait ,or bubble the gates Because you just sit there it`s more boring then any game the internet did invent.And those cloakers have ofc more accounts ,they are doeing missions in empire ,on the second screen they see whats going on where they are cloaked .
And don`t tell me how you counter cloakers ,because you can`t.Did it all saw it all.
So now you are saying the problem is 20 30 afk cloaks? Wat.
In POS shields you are perfect safe. So the mining POSes means nothing. Jump Bridge, well if your jump bridge POS can't kill 1 guy in a cloaking ship before it kills you, get a new POS manager.
When people begin to realise, just because you want to kill somebody doesn't mean you should be able to. You might want to kill everyone whenever you decide, but it's not going to happen there is always going to be a way to prevent yourself from being killed. So once you get over the fact the AFK cloaker isn't going to die soon and you move on where the boogy man can't get you. You will realise it doesn't matter. _______________
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