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Tobias Sjodin
Ore Mongers Black Hand.
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Posted - 2008.08.09 09:32:00 -
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Dez, thanks for being a fresh breath of air on the forums.
Black Hand.
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Lorna Loot
Caldari Nox Eternus
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Posted - 2008.08.09 09:33:00 -
[32]
Sounds like a real cool guy.
1. Its a valid tactic 2. It's CCP endorsed 3. Get the carebears to whine 4. It gets nerfed 5. You can rat in peace in your happy la-la land that is meant to 0.0 6. Suck it up and stop being a raging **** yourself for complaining about it. ----------
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Ulric Denrai
Amarr Glass House
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Posted - 2008.08.09 09:33:00 -
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Simple solution is ,a cloak module needs to use alot cap like MWD, covert ops gets a bonus .
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Surfin's PlunderBunny
Minmatar Holy Church Of Garmonism
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Posted - 2008.08.09 09:35:00 -
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AFK cloaking does no harm... Garmon will forsake the whiners
You're not afraid of the dark, are you? |
Ulric Denrai
Amarr Glass House
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Posted - 2008.08.09 09:36:00 -
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The real grievers are the cloakers ,not that alliance where people put years of time in ,then go to 0.0 .
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Ulric Denrai
Amarr Glass House
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Posted - 2008.08.09 09:38:00 -
[36]
Edited by: Ulric Denrai on 09/08/2008 09:41:05
Originally by: Dez Affinity
Originally by: Ulric Denrai
It`s not about ratting ,i agree you can rat all over the place. But most outpost are in solar systems where you have alot belts,where you have your mining posses your labs your jumpbridge.Share that with 20 30 people cloaked .
And it won`t help to have a gang next door or bait ,or bubble the gates Because you just sit there it`s more boring then any game the internet did invent.And those cloakers have ofc more accounts ,they are doeing missions in empire ,on the second screen they see whats going on where they are cloaked .
And don`t tell me how you counter cloakers ,because you can`t.Did it all saw it all.
So now you are saying the problem is 20 30 afk cloaks? Wat.
In POS shields you are perfect safe. So the mining POSes means nothing. Jump Bridge, well if your jump bridge POS can't kill 1 guy in a cloaking ship before it kills you, get a new POS manager.
When people begin to realise, just because you want to kill somebody doesn't mean you should be able to. You might want to kill everyone whenever you decide, but it's not going to happen there is always going to be a way to prevent yourself from being killed. So once you get over the fact the AFK cloaker isn't going to die soon and you move on where the boogy man can't get you. You will realise it doesn't matter.
Since you are on the griever end you never will understand.
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Dez Affinity
Ore Mongers Black Hand.
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Posted - 2008.08.09 09:41:00 -
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Originally by: Ulric Denrai The real grievers are the cloakers ,not that alliance where people put years of time in ,then go to 0.0 .
Your arguement is someone shouldn't be able to disrupt your play. You further your point by saying they shouldn't be able to do it with no effort. You forget however that this isn't a happy la la everyone is best friends and we all hold hands kinda game, you also forget that if they are indeed AFK they can't TECHNICALLY disrupt you because they aren't there.
Then the real fact appears, if you move, they have to move too. _______________
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Bruja Ry
Caldari Copperhead Arsenal
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Posted - 2008.08.09 09:45:00 -
[38]
Instead of complaininig of afk cloakers, come up with valid non-game breaking ways to fix it. Be it a probe that has the chance to find them or something else entirely.
http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=807663&page=1 |
Ulric Denrai
Amarr Glass House
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Posted - 2008.08.09 09:45:00 -
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O and you my think i`m a carebear ,but i`m not ,i`m allways in alliance to pvp.But i understand a alliance also needs carebears.Otherwise it also will die.
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Khlitouris RegusII
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Posted - 2008.08.09 09:50:00 -
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Originally by: Haniblecter Teg
Originally by: Ioci I see this too. 1 guy can't gank me. 2 can give me trouble. 3 means you fleet up to get rid of them. I don't know. Cloakers don't bother me. There are always people on who would rather be PvPing and are more than happy to sentry the system, waiting for someone to flag a belt. Often with 1 and 2 reds, I will go to a belt and bait rat. Have fun with it. If you are that tight for ISK, go to another system. I just think you are misreading the problem. Fly safe!
Why should I have to go to another system (they always choose the best) to accommodate for his 'valid' game mechanics....game mechanics that allow a person to afk for most of the day until they decide they want to actually want to 'play'.
Game mechanics that prevents you from doing anything to correct the problem.
Taken to the extreme, you can have everyone in an alliance afk cloak their alts in an enemy system/s. What are you going to do there? Is that a truly valid tactic? Or is it more akin to griefing?
if he's AFK wtf are you worried about.
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Dez Affinity
Ore Mongers Black Hand.
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Posted - 2008.08.09 09:53:00 -
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I don't care if you are a carebear or the best PvPer in the game but removing things from the game just because it annoys you isn't a step forward. You can't target people while cloaked and you can't uncloak while you are AFK, therefore you cannot do anything while cloaked. It's not the cloak that needs to be nerfed, its you that needs to get over the fact he is there and work around it, go to a different system there are literally hundreds of completly empty 0.0 systems. _______________
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Chainsaw Plankton
IDLE GUNS IDLE EMPIRE
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Posted - 2008.08.09 10:00:00 -
[42]
so just kill his ass or something.
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Rexthor Hammerfists
The Movement
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Posted - 2008.08.09 10:06:00 -
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Fit a wcs, shouldnt be a problem for a ratting ship. -
Any good reason for gateguns shooting drones and thus removing dronebased ships from pirating?
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Rhanna Khurin
Minmatar Tribal Liberation Force
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Posted - 2008.08.09 10:10:00 -
[44]
Module used for specific purpose shocker!
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bluebeyond
MicroFunks
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Posted - 2008.08.09 10:10:00 -
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Originally by: Haniblecter Teg This is really a valid tactic? One that ccp endorses?
Cloak, then afk in your enemies ratting system for 22.5 hours a day, 7 days a week.
For the remaining half an hour--the time when you're not tooling around with your alt--you uncloak, scan out a ratter, and gank them.
We have a guy like this named Ghostthor. He's a raging **** for this.
CCP do something about this pure *********
Shut the fuck up.
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TerrorBaBy
Jolly Rogerers
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Posted - 2008.08.09 10:26:00 -
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Originally by: Haniblecter Teg
Originally by: Ioci I see this too. 1 guy can't gank me. 2 can give me trouble. 3 means you fleet up to get rid of them. I don't know. Cloakers don't bother me. There are always people on who would rather be PvPing and are more than happy to sentry the system, waiting for someone to flag a belt. Often with 1 and 2 reds, I will go to a belt and bait rat. Have fun with it. If you are that tight for ISK, go to another system. I just think you are misreading the problem. Fly safe!
Why should I have to go to another system (they always choose the best) to accommodate for his 'valid' game mechanics....game mechanics that allow a person to afk for most of the day until they decide they want to actually want to 'play'.
Game mechanics that prevents you from doing anything to correct the problem.
Taken to the extreme, you can have everyone in an alliance afk cloak their alts in an enemy system/s. What are you going to do there? Is that a truly valid tactic? Or is it more akin to griefing?
If you actually worked with your corp and alliance mates it wouldn't be a problem. The anti-cloaking argument is always the same:
'WAH, I can't rat in my belt because someone is afk cloaked in local, wah!'
The counter argument is also always the same:
'How do you know he is afk? What can he/she do to you whilst cloaked? Why is a single cloaked ship a threat to you in your own secure (supposedly) space?'
I think you should get some friends to he quite honest, you may find this problem just vanishes magically... _______________
Originally by: Constance Harme It's like willfully getting into a car full of strangers and then being driven out to the woods and being shot.
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Radeberger
Caldari I Care...... Seriously i do
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Posted - 2008.08.09 10:30:00 -
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Originally by: Haniblecter Teg This is really a valid tactic? One that ccp endorses?
Cloak, then afk in your enemies ratting system for 22.5 hours a day, 7 days a week.
For the remaining half an hour--the time when you're not tooling around with your alt--you uncloak, scan out a ratter, and gank them.
We have a guy like this named Ghostthor. He's a raging **** for this.
CCP do something about this pure *********
Ghostthor is a noob
If you want some eXXXtra speshul happytime with him send him 0.1 isk.
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Kazang
Gallente KnightRaven Alliance
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Posted - 2008.08.09 10:38:00 -
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Quote:
And fight through ganks? What? Have you even read the thread? Cloakers dont gate camp, so there's nothing to 'fight through'.
If the guy is afk and not going to fight as you say, wtf are you worried about?
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Ioci
Gallente Ioci Exploration
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Posted - 2008.08.09 10:47:00 -
[49]
CCP is making high sec 'safer'. Gratz, I care?
Don't **** with 0.0
If one AFK cloaker is enough to spook you, you are in for a miserable and nerve wrecking experience. Better go back to high sec now. |
Pazreal
Gallente The Defias Brotherhood
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Posted - 2008.08.09 10:47:00 -
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Quote: Ghostthor is a noob
QFT...but he's a nice fellow. Get to know him when he has his .5 hour of playtime a day?
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Tippia
Caldari School of Applied Knowledge
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Posted - 2008.08.09 10:49:00 -
[51]
So now, cloaking is griefing.
I truely have seen it all now!
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Righteous Fury
Slacker Industries
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Posted - 2008.08.09 10:51:00 -
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Edited by: Righteous Fury on 09/08/2008 10:51:51 your tears sir, they are delicious. you are aware that this thread is EXACTLY the kind of response cloakers seek when they do it?
its so much fun \o/
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Ap0ll0n
Gallente The Defias Brotherhood
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Posted - 2008.08.09 10:59:00 -
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Since you are in 0.0, you should be in an alliance, mkay? An alliance have alot of peeps usually, and intel channels. Use those. Whenever you get jumped by an afk-cloaker, use the intel channels to shout for help. If its a proper alliance, people will rush to help you.
If you were a miner, i could understand you.
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Ioci
Gallente Ioci Exploration
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Posted - 2008.08.09 11:11:00 -
[54]
Originally by: Righteous Fury Edited by: Righteous Fury on 09/08/2008 10:51:51 your tears sir, they are delicious. you are aware that this thread is EXACTLY the kind of response cloakers seek when they do it?
its so much fun \o/
I've done it to Against All Authority, for weeks on end. They ignored me |
Gonada
Gallente R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2008.08.09 12:58:00 -
[55]
omg, please go back to wow you babies.
seriously, all of you whiners need to learn how to play the game or gth out.
Please, jump into traffic
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Janu Hull
Caldari Terra Incognita Vanguard.
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Posted - 2008.08.09 13:22:00 -
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Originally by: Haniblecter Teg Edited by: Haniblecter Teg on 09/08/2008 08:16:28
Originally by: Arvald
Originally by: InDa Hood Edited by: InDa Hood on 09/08/2008 07:35:55 AFK Cloaking is one of the most ridiculous problems to plaque EVE. Who knows what they could be doing, afk cloaked....
Eating a sammich? Washing their hands? bio break?
NOT PLAYING EVE!?!?!?
Coincidence?
or god forbit looking up ****.......not that id ever do such a thing >_>
You're afk cloaked in a system for 23/7: Wake up. Log on to main after dt. You go to work. You take the kids to soccer practice, you pork the misses. You do two missions with your alt in empire. You pick up the kids from practice. You check your afk cloaker in the system. You eat dinner. You go to bed.
Valid Game Mechanic or Grief?
Two reasons its Valid:
1. Reconnaissance (identifying the comings and goings in system to identify off-peak times and operational vulnerabilities)
2. Psy-ops (you demonstrate that this obviously works) In the event of an emergency, my ego may be used as a floatation device.
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Steve Hawkings
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Posted - 2008.08.09 13:35:00 -
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that is incorrect, CCP endorses a game where you might actually have to leave the screen once in a while.
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Crumplecorn
Gallente Eve Cluster Explorations
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Posted - 2008.08.09 13:52:00 -
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Karentaki
Gallente Maximum Yarrage
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Posted - 2008.08.09 14:02:00 -
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Originally by: Haniblecter Teg This is really a valid tactic? One that ccp endorses?
Cloak, then afk in your enemies ratting system for 22.5 hours a day, 7 days a week.
For the remaining half an hour--the time when you're not tooling around with your alt--you uncloak, scan out a ratter, and gank them.
We have a guy like this named Ghostthor. He's a raging **** for this.
CCP do something about this pure *********
I highlighted the important part. This means that you can rat for 22.5 hours a day in perfect safety.
Also, have you ever considered using bait - fit a BS for lots of EHP and tackle, and set up a trap.
1. Bait 2. He uncloaks 3. Kill him 4. ??? 5. PROFIT
============= RE: The suicide nerf
Originally by: agent apple I believe I can safely speak for many of us when I say,
Dear Devs, Go Back to WOW
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Orar Ironfist
Digital assassins
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Posted - 2008.08.09 14:20:00 -
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"Hey look at me i fail so hard that i cant kill this 1 guy in a system. Please CCP change it so he cant be there so i can farm all day with no risk at all! "
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