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Phaige
Minmatar Reaver Construction Services
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Posted - 2008.08.29 16:32:00 -
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Originally by: Arilanus Doshenko Dear people-who-want-to-do-people-with-same-genitals,
I'm officially recinding your rights to the usage of the word 'gay' and 'lesbian', so they can be used for other purposes.
Us "breeders" have to stick with "heterosexual" and "straight". We don't get fancy gender-specific terms. This is unfair, and tantamount to discrimination. You'll have to decide between you on the moniker of the future.
So, as a counterpoint to 'straight', I offer the following alternatives: Circular, Fractal, Rhomboid or Narrow. "Wiggly" can be made available upon request. Bisexuals will henceforth be known as 'parallelograms'.
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Feilamya
Minmatar Sebiestor tribe
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Posted - 2008.08.30 15:40:00 -
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Don't know if it has been posted yet, but ...
You should know the difference
And anything else that had to be said was already said by Eris Discordia on one of the first pages.
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jason hill
Caldari Clan Shadow Wolf Sylph Alliance
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Posted - 2008.08.30 17:31:00 -
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i for 1 welcome our new lesbians in action !..has anyone got a dvd of them on the job
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Davthalas
Gallente North Eastern Swat
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Posted - 2008.08.31 00:52:00 -
[154]
Originally by: Catherine Frasier
Originally by: CCP Eris Discordia Yeah, I don¦t see why people get offended if they are called gay, a lesbian or whatever. A better response in my opinion would be ¦so what of it?¦
That's not the issue. It's the use of the word "gay" as a synonym for "stupid". Surely you understand why, to someone who is gay, that's pretty damned offensive.
So call me gay and I will say 'What about it?".
Say that because I am gay I am therefore stupid or inferior and that's a whole different issue.
That's the issue that Laura Vess is discussing. Not name-calling, just good old fashioned gay bashing.
I'll admit that sometimes gay people **** me off, they always whine about how bad they have it once someone that isn't gay says the word 'gay'.
Fact is gay isn't your damn word. It was originally used as an alternative to the word happy, also meaning fancy-free. If you don't want people to say it invent your own word then try to stop it from entering into vernacular use.
Thanks.
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Maestro Ulv
Phaze-9 Apotheosis of Virtue
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Posted - 2008.08.31 03:24:00 -
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Originally by: Davthalas
Fact is gay isn't your damn word. It was originally used as an alternative to the word happy, also meaning fancy-free. If you don't want people to say it invent your own word then try to stop it from entering into vernacular use.
Thanks.
This.
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ceaon
Gallente Porandor
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Posted - 2008.09.13 00:00:00 -
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part 2 http://www.lesbianation.com/article.cfm?ArticlePage=1&Section=67&id=20298 Signature is inappropriate and has been removed. Navigator |
Wendat Huron
Stellar Solutions
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Posted - 2008.09.13 00:11:00 -
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Calling a Drake a ***drake isn't necessarily putting it down, it can take a good pounding.
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Kalahari Wayrest
Re-Awakened Technologies Inc
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Posted - 2008.09.13 00:42:00 -
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Quote: http://www.lesbianation.com/article.cfm?ArticlePage=1&Section=67&id=20298
hum, wonder what the backlash'll be to that one
actually, that was a pretty interesting read. Particularly the bit about Valerie Massey requesting 'gay' to be a filtered word. That had always confused and annoyed me, and been the absolute worst thing they could have done in my opinion. It's not only assuming that the negative connotation is the only way the word could be used, but it's reinforcing it by implying it's unacceptable/needs to be filtered out (and yes it's their forums, they can filter what they like, etc) - it's over analysing, but it wouldn't have been a stretch to assume that was how CCP felt about gay people, which is presumably the exact opposite of the intention.
so that explains that it was coming from the right place, just (in my opinion) handled in the wrong way. from recollection actually, one of the arguments for it being filtered was that it's a teen forum, and therefore isn't appropriate for discussions about sexuality. that's debateable, particularly as adolescence is when the major questions about identity seem to occur, but probably a better tack to take. ('lesbian' was also filtered iirc, which is less likely to be used as an insult/slang - that would be lezza or ***** or something more derrogatory)
I think it's positive that they listened to a player about that particular policy - and a subsequent reversal of that policy - though I'm curious how many years that took five if I read the article correctly (the word suggested for filtering in 2002, someone complaining a year ago) though maybe no one had approached them directly about it before - I spose complainin' on the forums doesn't really count
my personal view is that absolutely concerns should be followed up and dealt with if people are feeling harassed on an individual basis, but preemptive things like filtering words to 'protect' a group of people who presumably weren't asked if they wanted that kind of babying seems like, with the best of intentions, it's jumping the gun a bit - but that might just be the anti-censor in me talking.
(another censoring issue that confused me was why '****' was filtered, but the less innocuous 'crap' is allowed but that's a completely separate issue was 'breasts' also censored at one point or am I making shit up now? A list would be handy )
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Rialtor
Amarr Yarrrateers
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Posted - 2008.09.13 02:05:00 -
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Originally by: Caedicus
I can somewhat understand why people think it's offensive because I think if everyone said "That's American" or "Using alts to spy is such an American Tactic" to describe things that are sucky, it might get on my nerves as an American.
Dude I'm sorry to break it to you. But the rest of the world refers to America in just those terms. That's the perception of Americans. We're fat, stupid, religious, rude, and crazed trigger happy gun owners. I'm sorry but someone had to break it to you.
Quote: "Using alts to spy is such an American Tactic"
and that's a korean and/or chinese move
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Markessa Hrethnor
Pator Tech School
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Posted - 2008.09.13 04:08:00 -
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people that get offended easily by words, normally have much larger problems.
especially in an online game in TYPED chat, not even verbal chat.
perhaps she wants an award for being a lesbian? or, perhaps he/she really does have much much larger problems than being offended by some folks saying "that's gay", to the point that he/she has to go "hey i'm gay"... i've seen lots of people say "hey i'm gay" in those instances JUST to bait the people say "that's gay", in order to see if they'd apologize or go crazy with it. either way, the folks doing the baiting/trolling would laugh quite heartily at the reactions of the "gay bashers".
i agree with another poster (several actually), but the one that mentioned that not all minorities have such a superiority complex as to demand special treatment and/or attention.
bleh.
if i get offended by the word 'cracker', can it get added to the filter? and if ghosts get offended by the word 'spook', can it also be filtered?
and 'phat' is actually pronounced "fat"... so if obese people are offended, can that word, and words like large, big, huge, plump, hefty, etc also be banned?
the word blind is probably offensive to people that can't see and they'd preferred to be call "sight-challenged"... i kid i kid, they'd prefer to be treated NORMAL.
crazy huh? that SHOULD BE the normal, non-crazy-person reaction -- that they simply be treated as a typical member of society, or their group.
bleh, whatever.
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Nibra Rei
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Posted - 2008.09.13 05:14:00 -
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Edited by: Nibra Rei on 13/09/2008 05:15:17 I couldn't even get through this entire thread its full of so much bullcrap.
Let me say this: If I ever hear someone in my corp or alliance spew words like that at me, I will be off with every unit of isk and asset I can get my grubby little hands on. They will regret the day they turn their ignorance on me.
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Siigari Kitawa
Gallente The Aduro Protocol
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Posted - 2008.09.13 08:36:00 -
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Is Kaikka really gay?
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Emeline Cabernet
Amarr Amarr Border Defense Consortium Curatores Veritatis Alliance
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Posted - 2008.09.13 10:32:00 -
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Originally by: N1fty I found this BBC article very interesting.
interesting? its a riot lol
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CynoCyno1
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Posted - 2008.09.13 16:50:00 -
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Originally by: Phaige
Originally by: Arilanus Doshenko Dear people-who-want-to-do-people-with-same-genitals,
I'm officially recinding your rights to the usage of the word 'gay' and 'lesbian', so they can be used for other purposes.
Us "breeders" have to stick with "heterosexual" and "straight". We don't get fancy gender-specific terms. This is unfair, and tantamount to discrimination. You'll have to decide between you on the moniker of the future.
So, as a counterpoint to 'straight', I offer the following alternatives: Circular, Fractal, Rhomboid or Narrow. "Wiggly" can be made available upon request. Bisexuals will henceforth be known as 'parallelograms'.
This is so funny - thats the only good thing to come out of EVE - online is that it brings very clever people to the forums to write such witty comments :)
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goodby4u
Valor Inc.
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Posted - 2008.09.13 19:53:00 -
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Upfront im part jewish, and ive heard the comment"stop being jewish"or"you joobeg"said to other people and myself many times with the intent to joke about it.... And this affects me a grand total of 0.
Saying something is gay in a mean manner is just a playfull thing(most of the time)and people that take such acts seriously should really stop playing eve, because it can get sooo much worse.
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Multras
Caldari D00M. Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2008.09.13 23:30:00 -
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Originally by: Kage Getsu Totally not surprised that a company from a country with an official state church blows off something like that.
How dare someone say ANYTHING negative about religion!
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Keta Min
Pre-nerfed Tactics
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Posted - 2008.09.14 00:29:00 -
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Originally by: Multras
Originally by: Kage Getsu Totally not surprised that a company from a country with an official state church blows off something like that.
How dare someone say ANYTHING negative about religion!
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Multras
Caldari D00M. Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2008.09.14 09:39:00 -
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Originally by: Keta Min
Originally by: Multras
Originally by: Kage Getsu Totally not surprised that a company from a country with an official state church blows off something like that.
How dare someone say ANYTHING negative about religion!
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My comment was sarcasm making fun of you, that's ok if you didnt get it though; it's ok to hate a group as long as it isnt of your own right? You are so gay.
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Orange Species
Minmatar Destructive Influence Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.09.14 17:12:00 -
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Interesting article, seems to me that she takes what people say far too seriously. -------------
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Ji Sama
Caldari Department of Defence
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Posted - 2008.09.14 22:31:00 -
[170]
Hello all i am a moron and a tard, and i would like everyone NOT to use these words because it hurts my epeen, i mean feelings... "the majority of men has been dealt cards to a game they do not know how to play" |
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rValdez5987
Amarr 32nd Amarrian Imperial Navy Regiment.
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Posted - 2008.09.15 01:51:00 -
[171]
leave it to the gays to get all butt hurt over words.
Its words. Are they really that low with their self esteem, or that ashamed that they have to behave like this?
People need to grow a spine and realize that they can be whatever they want. **** anyone that tells them different.
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Chainsaw Plankton
IDLE GUNS IDLE EMPIRE
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Posted - 2008.09.15 03:40:00 -
[172]
that website is sooooo gay
ba dum chaa!
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Spaztick
Canadian Imperial Armaments EVESpace
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Posted - 2008.09.15 06:05:00 -
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Originally by: rValdez5987 leave it to the gays to get all butt hurt over words.
I see what you did there! But seriously, more people should have some type of spacer in their sigs to show it's not part of the post.
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KingsGambit
Caldari Knights
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Posted - 2008.09.15 10:11:00 -
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These things start when people ascribe negative conotations to an otherwise normal/neutral word. The problem isn't necessarily the language in itself but the fact that we bandy about using these terms and phrases to mean negative things is what causes offense. I can see why some might take offense with these sorts of phrases being used, inadvertantly, like 'that's so gay' or 'you drive like a woman', etc. Although I do think political correctness is getting a little much and all of us ultimately should realise that it's part of the nature of language, and not necessarily meant to offend.
Someone coined the the term the 'Euphamism Treadmill' which I think is quite relevant, describing just this sort of process whereby words that begin life with one meaning, over time become pejoratives, only to be replaced and have the cycle continue. We just happen to be much more sensitive to these things now with laws on equal rights, discrimination and so on, and an emerging 'litigation' culture. -------------
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Crumplecorn
Gallente Eve Cluster Explorations
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Posted - 2008.09.15 11:19:00 -
[175]
Second article pulls back even further towards the realms of sanity, but still leaves with the example of not wanting a relative to play the game and see "ur so gay" everywhere, because as soon as you associate gay=bad you will start beating up gay people or something.
This illustrates that she still can't differentiate between the label as a homosexual and the random slang which coincides with it.
All in all she, like so many people on the web, just needs to STFU. -
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Aodha Khan
Minmatar The Paratwa FOUNDATI0N
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Posted - 2008.09.15 11:21:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Eris Discordia Edited by: CCP Eris Discordia on 27/08/2008 16:56:17 People also get annoyed when they compare ship fights to raping, it¦s offense to people who actually went through it. At some time though you need to realise people don¦t mean it in the way you take offense to it and you are just being overly sensitive to it because they take it so personal.
They are using the term **** in the correct sense. It is not necessarely of a sexual nature.
Do we also ban the word 'kill' because it may upset someone who suffered a death recently?
I know in my country they are banning the term 'blackboard' in schools...
Where does all this idiocy end?
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Slade Trillgon
Siorai Iontach
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Posted - 2008.09.15 11:43:00 -
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Originally by: KingsGambit The problem isn't necessarily the language in itself but the fact that we bandy about using these terms and phrases to mean negative things is what causes offense.
Although, I do think political correctness is getting a little much and all of us ultimately should realise that it's part of the nature of language, and not necessarily meant to offend.
Someone coined the the term the 'Euphamism Treadmill' which I think is quite relevant, describing just this sort of process whereby words that begin life with one meaning, over time become pejoratives, only to be replaced and have the cycle continue. We just happen to be much more sensitive to these things now with laws on equal rights, discrimination and so on, and an emerging 'litigation' culture.
Could not have said it better myself. This needed to be brought back to the top.
Also, there are some real good laughs in this thread.
Slade
Originally by: Crumplecorn NerfBat is now known as the WaveMachine.
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Haradgrim
Tyrell Corp INTERDICTION
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Posted - 2008.09.16 20:06:00 -
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Originally by: Lyvv
Originally by: Angry Lesbian
Then I start ranting and calling people æbreedersÆ and ædamned heterosexualsÆ until I wise up and log off for a while to cool down.
LoL didnt know that "breeders" was an insult?! Wonder how she thought she came onto this earth. ****ing tube-babies for the win.
Anytime someone uses the term "breeders" like that, it makes me think of the Christopher Lambert movie: Fortress, where he and his wife get locked up for just that.
Also, I wonder if anyone in this thread has ever read "The Forever War," interesting read given the subject matter. --
Originally by: CCP Oveur ...every forum whine feels like a baby pony is getting killed
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nahtoh
Caldari StrikerCorp
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Posted - 2008.09.16 21:21:00 -
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Originally by: Haradgrim
Originally by: Lyvv
Originally by: Angry Lesbian
Then I start ranting and calling people æbreedersÆ and ædamned heterosexualsÆ until I wise up and log off for a while to cool down.
LoL didnt know that "breeders" was an insult?! Wonder how she thought she came onto this earth. ****ing tube-babies for the win.
Anytime someone uses the term "breeders" like that, it makes me think of the Christopher Lambert movie: Fortress, where he and his wife get locked up for just that.
Also, I wonder if anyone in this thread has ever read "The Forever War," interesting read given the subject matter.
Yes that was a intresting book. If I am thinking about the same book that is.
Where same sex relationships became the norom and different sex reationships were viewed as peverse yes? ========= "I am not saying there should be capital punishment for stupidity, but why can`t we just take the safety labels off everything and let the problem fix its self |
Mara Devortex
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Posted - 2008.09.18 00:16:00 -
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Hmm reading the article gave me some food for thought..derogatory senseless ignorant remarks are rather normal in the world..but if someone where to directly attack you for being "gay" well thats different...but the appropriate response here is not play victim..beat the f++++ers down! its Eve so you CAN !!!
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