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baltec1
858
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Posted - 2012.03.24 23:53:00 -
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Zircon Dasher wrote:Ladie Harlot wrote: Tell us how risky high sec is. Jita is where the largest amount of BOOM happens according to Econ Presentation. Just sayin'
I have lost one ship in jita in 6 years. |

Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
3390
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Posted - 2012.03.25 01:18:00 -
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DarthNefarius wrote:Vimsy Vortis wrote:The only legitimate risk in EVE is provided by players. PVE isn't risky unless players able to kill you while you are doing it. lol legitmate risk lol illegimate risk is whatever u call it lol... lets all start defining risk as whatever the next troll calls it or the 2 preivous troll posts
Tell me more about how high-sec incursions are super high risk and you're LIVING ON THE EDGE "WeGÇÖre a professional Merc Alliance, like PL" ~ snot shot, 2012 |

DarthNefarius
94
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Posted - 2012.03.25 01:22:00 -
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baltec1 wrote:Zircon Dasher wrote:Ladie Harlot wrote: Tell us how risky high sec is. Jita is where the largest amount of BOOM happens according to Econ Presentation. Just sayin' I have lost one ship in jita in 6 years. You've never suicide ganked any one with an alt in Jita losing a ship? You wimp. Or was the 1 ship a gank?   To the whiners : CCP Soundwave "Incursions are not a big issue in terms of isk globally"
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DarthNefarius
94
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Posted - 2012.03.25 01:26:00 -
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Ladie Harlot wrote:Zircon Dasher wrote:Ladie Harlot wrote: Tell us how risky high sec is. Jita is where the largest amount of BOOM happens according to Econ Presentation. Just sayin' How many incursions have spawned in Jita?
There was an Incursion in Jita last night...
It lasted 5 minutes
Then Sansha went bankrupt & it despawned
Seems Sansha lost the revenant MOM ship to some scammers for 1 trit To the whiners : CCP Soundwave "Incursions are not a big issue in terms of isk globally"
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Ladie Harlot
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2114
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Posted - 2012.03.25 01:58:00 -
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Kendra Wilkinson wrote:cauz really your 0.0 are risky when you farming like pigz? with cyno jam, the 20 large bbl T2 n each gate, the afk cloak?
How would you know? You've never been to 0.0 The artist formerly known as Ladie Scarlet. |

Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
3390
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Posted - 2012.03.25 03:08:00 -
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Kendra Wilkinson wrote:cauz really your 0.0 are risky when you farming like pigz? with cyno jam, the 20 large bbl T2 n each gate, the afk cloak?
you are just mad to not be able to gank ppl without risk like you do with miners.
so shut up and return in your cave
lol you think people actually do that
so, so dumb "WeGÇÖre a professional Merc Alliance, like PL" ~ snot shot, 2012 |

Tanya Powers
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
907
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Posted - 2012.03.25 03:34:00 -
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I predict a lot of high sec players tears, because they're not that safe as they wished or as the "high sec" title should mean-CCP would fail once again? -argh
I predict a lot of high sec pussies tears: wait, pvp in high sec doesn't mean any more that you are completely safe of loosing whatever? -******* infidels !!
I predict a lot of players stop their account for a max of 6 mths because of reasonable reasons:
-weather is hotter: they want to get brown skin attract chicks etc, yeah I'm bad I know, but they'll stop playing and it's a fact.
-techno musics somehow better somewhere else than fanfest, well actually better is not really possible because those were very good in their own style. Different (if only people could get this about ethnic differences)
Spring shown up, living in france as all stupid french I'm gonna sleep 1h less so i'm out. |

Selinate
696
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Posted - 2012.03.25 03:39:00 -
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I'd be willing to guess that a lot of the PvP in Jita comes from high sec war decs.... something that you're pretty much safe from unless you **** someone off, or attract unwanted attention...
I'm taking this from experience of seeing people shooting at each other outside of 4-4 all the time without flashing red or having Concord step in... |

Tetragammatron Prime
Pink Sockers
28
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Posted - 2012.03.25 03:43:00 -
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Andski wrote:Kendra Wilkinson wrote:cauz really your 0.0 are risky when you farming like pigz? with cyno jam, the 20 large bbl T2 n each gate, the afk cloak?
you are just mad to not be able to gank ppl without risk like you do with miners.
so shut up and return in your cave lol you think people actually do that so, so dumb
haven't visited deklein for a while but I know last time I was there the high npc kill system for both goons and TNT were like that..same with fcon and FA systems in pb and cr
so, you are dumbbb |

Vertisce Soritenshi
Varion Galactic Tragedy.
1324
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Posted - 2012.03.25 03:48:00 -
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Tetragammatron Prime wrote:Andski wrote:Kendra Wilkinson wrote:cauz really your 0.0 are risky when you farming like pigz? with cyno jam, the 20 large bbl T2 n each gate, the afk cloak?
you are just mad to not be able to gank ppl without risk like you do with miners.
so shut up and return in your cave lol you think people actually do that so, so dumb haven't visited deklein for a while but I know last time I was there the high npc kill system for both goons and TNT were like that..same with fcon and FA systems in pb and cr so, you are dumbbb I think people do that. I've seen them do it all the time. Nothing new. It's the same "risk free" isk as incursions. EvE is not about PvP.-á EvE is about the SANDBOX! - CCP!-á Open the door!!! |

Ladie Harlot
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2118
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Posted - 2012.03.25 03:50:00 -
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Tetragammatron Prime wrote:Andski wrote:Kendra Wilkinson wrote:cauz really your 0.0 are risky when you farming like pigz? with cyno jam, the 20 large bbl T2 n each gate, the afk cloak?
you are just mad to not be able to gank ppl without risk like you do with miners.
so shut up and return in your cave lol you think people actually do that so, so dumb haven't visited deklein for a while but I know last time I was there the high npc kill system for both goons and TNT were like that..same with fcon and FA systems in pb and cr so, you are dumbbb
How does a high npc kill rate have anything to do with safety? Are you implying we have some magic system of keeping hostiles out of those systems?
The artist formerly known as Ladie Scarlet. |

Recoil Happens
Debatable Results
38
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Posted - 2012.03.25 03:58:00 -
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You could just ask DariusIII about the billions in lost ships his fleet suffered when he went up against an incursion mom fleet in high sec.
He'd tried it a few times by then and was losing his logi everytime, often more than once per site. |

Ladie Harlot
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2118
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Posted - 2012.03.25 04:00:00 -
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Recoil Happens wrote:You could just ask DariusIII about the billions in lost ships his fleet suffered when he went up against an incursion mom fleet in high sec.
He'd tried it a few times by then and was losing his logi everytime, often more than once per site.
You can also ask him about losing all his space in nullsec twice in one year.
The artist formerly known as Ladie Scarlet. |

Mara Rinn
Cosmic Industrial Complex Cosmic Consortium
1075
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Posted - 2012.03.25 04:01:00 -
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Ladie Harlot wrote:How does a high npc kill rate have anything to do with safety? Are you implying we have some magic system of keeping hostiles out of those systems?
You do have magic ways of not being in space when reds are nearby. Unless you're a doofus and aren't watching intel channels. |

Ladie Harlot
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2118
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Posted - 2012.03.25 04:04:00 -
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Mara Rinn wrote:Ladie Harlot wrote:How does a high npc kill rate have anything to do with safety? Are you implying we have some magic system of keeping hostiles out of those systems?
You do have magic ways of not being in space when reds are nearby. Unless you're a doofus and aren't watching intel channels.
Idiots get killed every day in our space. Just because dotlan shows a bunch of NPC kills doesn't mean people are spending hours at a time completely safe from hostile roamers. The artist formerly known as Ladie Scarlet. |

Ladie Harlot
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2118
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Posted - 2012.03.25 04:04:00 -
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But all this stuff about nullsec is a derail. We're supposed to be talking about how dangerous high sec incursions are. The artist formerly known as Ladie Scarlet. |

Herping yourDerp
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
419
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Posted - 2012.03.25 05:28:00 -
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scouts become more profitable vanguards give less isk and or take longer HQ or w/e the next step up will get reward buff or stay the same mothership drop decent loot even in highsec but not BPCs for the mothership, so maybe faction drones or something. |

DarthNefarius
95
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Posted - 2012.03.25 06:39:00 -
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Ladie Harlot wrote:Mara Rinn wrote:Ladie Harlot wrote:How does a high npc kill rate have anything to do with safety? Are you implying we have some magic system of keeping hostiles out of those systems?
You do have magic ways of not being in space when reds are nearby. Unless you're a doofus and aren't watching intel channels. Idiots get killed every day in our space. Just because dotlan shows a bunch of NPC kills doesn't mean people are spending hours at a time completely safe from hostile roamers.
your bots though sure seem to warp to POS whenever a non goon is in local.. coincidance I guess
I think cloaky AFKshould be allowed in all sec systems & anyone that complains about them are BOT supporters TBH To the whiners : CCP Soundwave "Incursions are not a big issue in terms of isk globally"
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DarthNefarius
95
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Posted - 2012.03.25 06:42:00 -
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Ladie Harlot wrote:But all this stuff about nullsec is a derail. We're supposed to be talking about how dangerous high sec incursions are.
oh? is that the thread title? go create your own thread titles troll To the whiners : CCP Soundwave "Incursions are not a big issue in terms of isk globally"
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DarthNefarius
95
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Posted - 2012.03.25 06:44:00 -
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Mara Rinn wrote:Ladie Harlot wrote:How does a high npc kill rate have anything to do with safety? Are you implying we have some magic system of keeping hostiles out of those systems?
You do have magic ways of not being in space when reds are nearby. Unless you're a doofus and aren't watching intel channels.
BOT magic To the whiners : CCP Soundwave "Incursions are not a big issue in terms of isk globally"
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Ladie Harlot
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2128
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Posted - 2012.03.25 06:47:00 -
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DarthNefarius wrote:Mara Rinn wrote:Ladie Harlot wrote:How does a high npc kill rate have anything to do with safety? Are you implying we have some magic system of keeping hostiles out of those systems?
You do have magic ways of not being in space when reds are nearby. Unless you're a doofus and aren't watching intel channels. BOT magic
And you have proof of all these bots in our space, right? The artist formerly known as Ladie Scarlet. |

Ladie Harlot
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2128
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Posted - 2012.03.25 06:49:00 -
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DarthNefarius wrote:I think cloaky AFKshould be allowed in all sec systems & anyone that complains about them are BOT supporters TBH
Go ahead and jump in a cov-ops and pay us a visit. That would mean having to leave high sec, though.
The artist formerly known as Ladie Scarlet. |

Chandaris
Immortalis Inc. Shadow Cartel
66
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Posted - 2012.03.25 06:58:00 -
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Anyone who says highsec incursions are not risky has obviously never run an assault or hq site more than once. Ships are lost all the time in many of those sites as organization has to be near perfect to pull them off.
Dc's or small screwups often lead to ship-loss.
Vanguards need to be nerfed, that's about it. ISK boosts from AS and HQ should be raised given their length. |

General Jung
Asgard Intelligence Services Most Usual Suspects
4
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Posted - 2012.03.25 15:17:00 -
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Hello Forum,
here are my suggestions
- 15 % lowering on VG Payouts - 10 % increase on AS Payouts - more then 20 % increase on HQ Payouts
One problem is that the system currently doesn-¦t reward the effort to form large fleets and keep them running. |

Ladie Harlot
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2152
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Posted - 2012.03.25 17:33:00 -
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Chandaris wrote:Anyone who says highsec incursions are not risky has obviously never run an assault or hq site more than once. Ships are lost all the time in many of those sites as organization has to be near perfect to pull them off.
When people talk about risk in Eve they are talking about risk from other players. Anybody who loses their ship to an NPC is dumb...it has nothing to do with risk.
The artist formerly known as Ladie Scarlet. |

Roime
Shiva Furnace
311
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Posted - 2012.03.25 17:40:00 -
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Kendra Wilkinson wrote:cauz really your 0.0 are risky when you farming like pigz? with cyno jam, the 20 large bbl T2 n each gate, the afk cloak?
you are just mad to not be able to gank ppl without risk like you do with miners.
so shut up and return in your cave
Do you realize there is a difference between working to make a system secure for yourself, and relying on CONCORD to babysit for you?
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Fish Hunter
Blacksteel Mining and Manufacturing Renaissance Federation
7
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Posted - 2012.03.25 18:02:00 -
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Excellent if this is done right this time. I got tired of doing incursions because of the maxers always wanting more isk. Also the overuse of the word shiney. Incursions favor the high end player way too much, when competing for a site the better fleet wins every time, some sort of chance based off of % dps applied would be better instead of the stuck up guys with extra players getting the payout for every site they do. Newbs can't really compete due to the reward mechanic and of course scout sites stink. And also knock it off with the risk analysis. Players provide the risk. If you think highsec is risk free go mine ice afk. The problem is simply that incursions at the moment are paying out too well compared with other activities. |

Maximille Biagge
The Eden Trading International Corporation Curatores Veritatis Alliance
31
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Posted - 2012.03.25 18:07:00 -
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DarthNefarius wrote: I missed hearing ABSOLUTELY ANYTHING being said about Incursions in all of fanfest! What time was this mentioned ????
Maybe Iteration means that there will be a new pirate faction or Sleeper Incursion? Maybe a Jovian Incursion will replace Sansha after a Sansha Titan gets taken down I hopes :)
As if the highsec incursion lords would ever allow a sansha titan to be killed and incursions to end, everybody saw and tasted the tears when brick/kill/skunkworks went round killing the motherships Oo
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Grey Stormshadow
draketrain Confederation of xXPIZZAXx
1067
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Posted - 2012.03.25 18:22:00 -
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- All incursions will move to captain quarters. - Primary goal is survival from bloodthirsty female avatars with fangs. - Each successful run around the couch will reward 100 million isk. - Vampire themed video on flat screen will bring additional fear factor and intense audio experience. - There will be new space ship model on the table right next to ash tray to provide promised refocusing.
Trust me - I know what I am talking about. Vampcursions are going to be awesomely evil and c00l!1
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Simi Kusoni
HelloKittyFanclub
360
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Posted - 2012.03.25 18:27:00 -
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My prediction: CCP keeps track of everyone in this thread who claims high sec incursions are risky and then, on the night of the patch, transports them in their shiny pirate faction battle ships into the heart of syndicate. At the very least such an approach might get them them to re-evaluate their definitions of the word "risk".
(Hint: risk involves losing a ship occasionally) -áhttp://i.imgur.com/aWNfM.jpg |
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