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orphenshadow
Easy Co. Fatal Ascension
14
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Posted - 2012.03.27 07:20:00 -
[2041] - Quote
de4deye wrote:Mittani = Kevorkian. Resign.
And what would his resignation solve?
Not a god damned thing.
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Headerman
Quovis CORE Alliance
762
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Posted - 2012.03.27 07:21:00 -
[2042] - Quote
orphenshadow wrote:de4deye wrote:Mittani = Kevorkian. Resign. And what would his resignation solve? Not a god damned thing.
If by nothing you mean everything, then yes, his resignation would solve everything. The Apostle : I want a kangeroo Captain Kirk : Silly Austrians Sarmatiko : Let me guess: you're from US? Captain Kirk : Yeah Riverside IA - why? |

Taiwanistan
Wildly Inappropriate Goonswarm Federation
231
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Posted - 2012.03.27 07:23:00 -
[2043] - Quote
titans still nerfed lololol wis shall not be a cesspool of all-you-can-eat social /dance o7m8 dressup, unrestrained do ask do tell out and proud at the space bar dollhouse, bunch of dudes emoting each other, devoid of gameplay and consequnces. |

Xoana Antia
Junk In A Box
11
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Posted - 2012.03.27 07:25:00 -
[2044] - Quote
de4deye wrote:Mittani = Kevorkian. Resign.
Maybe he lives in Washington, you ever think about that? |

Dhakgar
Next Gen Technology Next Generation Alliance
5
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Posted - 2012.03.27 07:41:00 -
[2045] - Quote
i think the mittani should resign not becaues of this (the guy had it coming, i mean really, he got married in the first place... jk)
but because Two Step (even if he doesnt want to) would make a great chairman |

TheBlueMonkey
Natural Progression
102
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Posted - 2012.03.27 07:44:00 -
[2046] - Quote
Arcathra wrote:TheBlueMonkey wrote:The Mittani has built himself a brand (same as any other celebrity figure), his is that of a brash, offensive super douche but it gets attention inside and outside of eve.
So what more did you expect?
Personally, I see stuff like this and just think "I see what you did there".
God I hate being in a marketing company some times :P
Anyway, If someone can be pushed to suicide by means of mails from the fanbase of a computer game, maybe humanity would be better off without them. Not saying I think that, just posing it as a point for debate. I understand your point I I accept the "Mittani and Goonswarm brand". I have no problem with that. What I expect, especially from someone who represents a part of the community (no matter what part) knows were the limits are and sees when their jokes go to far. Nothing against jokes of that kind in general (some of the other mocks like that were really funny), but as I said, there is a limit. Mittani and Goonsworm crossed that line and I'm sure not out of pure evilness or something but because they lost their touch to reality to some extent. Not everything is a game. Of course it's not that easy when reality and game cross each other like in EvE. You should understand that there are very sensitive people out there. Maybe that mail wasn't real. Maybe you think that humanity would be better without them if they are that unstable. But that is an highly ethical debatte that this platform has really no place for. Things like this can happen, even to a stable person.
You should go watch some marilyn manson interviews.
Same kinda thing but different, it really doesn't matter if you agree with any ethics around what he says or not, the people buying into him do.
Back to Mittani, this thread only goes to show how much more publicity he can get from a couple of glib comments. I'll wager that his backers are all "wooooo mittani", his opersition are all "booooo mittani" and those that hadn't heard of him untill now, well, there's potential new voters. |

Garnoo
Eternity INC. Goonswarm Federation
12
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Posted - 2012.03.27 07:57:00 -
[2047] - Quote
Ladie Harlot wrote:Arkady Vachon wrote:Besides, if CCP boots Mittani, just how many players are going to leave with him? I would expect that if CCP does boot Mittens even though he's not guilty of anything other than making pubbies mad that a lot of people would find another game to call home. If you look at who is complaining about him it's the same small handful of nutters who don't like Goons in general and they have all latched onto this as their latest attempt to accomplish what they are unable to in-game. Guild Wars 2 coming soon  People are going to try to ruin your day. Get together with others, ruin their day back - this is EvE |

Orkasm
Wildly Inappropriate Goonswarm Federation
88
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Posted - 2012.03.27 07:58:00 -
[2048] - Quote
Not worth 50mil :( |

Terminal Insanity
The Filthy Ones
460
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Posted - 2012.03.27 08:04:00 -
[2049] - Quote
Garnoo wrote:Guild Wars 2 coming soon  GW is a scam. They claim its free2play but they force you to buy every expansion, and if you miss one single expansion you are unable to participate in the PvP content. Every expansion they release a new skill with +1 hp per round extra regen, and none of the PvP groups will accept you without the latest (nearly identical) skill.
I have the collectors edition of every expansion, except im missing Eye of the North... and im not able to participate in the game until i purchase it. No thanks.
And the single player content? If you try to play it today you have no choice but to play with a bunch of NPC henchmen. Most of the missions are virtually empty. "War declarations are never officially considered griefing and are not a bannable offense, and it has been repeatedly stated by the developers that the possibility for non-consensual PvP is an intended feature." - CCP |

Zagdul
Clan Shadow Wolf Fatal Ascension
465
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Posted - 2012.03.27 08:07:00 -
[2050] - Quote
MindRanger wrote:Nerfing Titans is fair enough. But nothing beats nerfing Mittens ;)
The truth comes out.
It's not Rocket Surgery |

Blatant Forum Alt
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
81
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Posted - 2012.03.27 08:09:00 -
[2051] - Quote
Hey! Guys on the bandwagon! Dont leave me behind! |

Rico Minali
Sons Of 0din Fatal Ascension
406
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Posted - 2012.03.27 08:09:00 -
[2052] - Quote
Zagdul wrote:MindRanger wrote:Nerfing Titans is fair enough. But nothing beats nerfing Mittens ;)
The truth comes out.
This is basically all that these threads are calling for. Why doesnt matter, it is a call to nerf The Mittani. Trust me, I almost know what I'm doing. |

Heimatar Auctioneer
Republic University Minmatar Republic
460
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Posted - 2012.03.27 08:12:00 -
[2053] - Quote
If Mittani the Great was sincere in his apologies, he would have understood the gravity of his mistake and have apologized when someone questioned his misconduct after the Fanfest.
His nonchalant and rude replies are already solid proof that he had no willingness to apologize.
Only when his chairmanship was threatened and various media coverage brought spotlight to his misconduct, then he decided to write a half-hearted letter of apologies to the community.
Does Mittani the Great thinks we are that dumb to fall for his pathetic attempt to sway the crowd?
He already caused irreparable damage to EVE Online. Keeping him as part of CSM not only tarnish the reputation of CSM and CCP, but sets a horrible horrible precedent for the future fo the game.
Mittani the Great, please do us a favor and resign. |

Orkasm
Wildly Inappropriate Goonswarm Federation
88
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Posted - 2012.03.27 08:13:00 -
[2054] - Quote
Heimatar Auctioneer wrote:If Mittani the Great was sincere in his apologies, he would have understood the gravity of his mistake and have apologized when someone questioned his misconduct after the Fanfest.
His nonchalant and rude replies are already solid proof that he had no willingness to apologize.
Only when his chairmanship was threatened and various media coverage brought spotlight to his misconduct, then he decided to write a half-hearted letter of apologies to the community.
Does Mittani the Great thinks we are that dumb to fall for his pathetic attempt to sway the crowd?
He already caused irreparable damage to EVE Online. Keeping him as part of CSM not only tarnish the reputation of CSM and CCP, but sets a horrible horrible precedent for the future fo the game.
Mittani the Great, please do us a favor and resign.
Do us all a favour and stop posting. |

Sentinel Eeex
Thunderwaffe Goonswarm Federation
84
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Posted - 2012.03.27 08:18:00 -
[2055] - Quote
Rukia Taika wrote:Karadion wrote:Sasha Azala wrote:Karadion wrote:[If I stole a bunch of **** from someone ingame and they kill themselves as a result of my action, it's not my damn problem. They make the choices themselves, I in no way am responsible for their actions. You've chosen a poor example. In your example above, you are just playing the game and therefore there is nothing you could have done other than not play the game. I don't care. What part of that do you not get? My moral code is far different from your moral code. You are not allowed to define what my moral code is and that's a fact of life. Morality has always been subjective to interpretation and how we define things to be good and bad on a case by case basis. For me, if my actions caused another person to threaten to kill themselves, why am I responsible? They make the choices themselves and I will never ever care. It has nothing to do with being a sociopath. It has to do with poor decisions that people make every day. "I'm going to kill myself." "Okay. And?" you know that you are only making yourself look stupid here the further this goes. but wishing harm on another human being is just wrong. moral fiber is something insubstantial but how we are raised in respecting one another but it comes down to this is a game. Mittens is a CSM and has violated several rules that can get him removed as a CSM. Being a lawyer he should have realized the implications of what would happen before he opened moth and shoved his **** stained foot in/ and the Goons show their support for mittens it only truely shows the people who you truely are. Karma comes an goes good an bad all will get their just rewards in the end
I will kill myself if anyone posts ANYTHING else in this thread, after this post.
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Heimatar Auctioneer
Republic University Minmatar Republic
462
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Posted - 2012.03.27 08:18:00 -
[2056] - Quote
Orkasm wrote:Heimatar Auctioneer wrote:If Mittani the Great was sincere in his apologies, he would have understood the gravity of his mistake and have apologized when someone questioned his misconduct after the Fanfest.
His nonchalant and rude replies are already solid proof that he had no willingness to apologize.
Only when his chairmanship was threatened and various media coverage brought spotlight to his misconduct, then he decided to write a half-hearted letter of apologies to the community.
Does Mittani the Great thinks we are that dumb to fall for his pathetic attempt to sway the crowd?
He already caused irreparable damage to EVE Online. Keeping him as part of CSM not only tarnish the reputation of CSM and CCP, but sets a horrible horrible precedent for the future fo the game.
Mittani the Great, please do us a favor and resign. Do us all a favour and stop posting.
Human with some moral decency disagrees with you. If you support Mittani, it pretty much explains that you also support encouraging people with suicidal tendency to commit suicide. |

Sentinel Eeex
Thunderwaffe Goonswarm Federation
84
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Posted - 2012.03.27 08:22:00 -
[2057] - Quote
Heimatar Auctioneer wrote:Orkasm wrote:Heimatar Auctioneer wrote:If Mittani the Great was sincere in his apologies, he would have understood the gravity of his mistake and have apologized when someone questioned his misconduct after the Fanfest.
His nonchalant and rude replies are already solid proof that he had no willingness to apologize.
Only when his chairmanship was threatened and various media coverage brought spotlight to his misconduct, then he decided to write a half-hearted letter of apologies to the community.
Does Mittani the Great thinks we are that dumb to fall for his pathetic attempt to sway the crowd?
He already caused irreparable damage to EVE Online. Keeping him as part of CSM not only tarnish the reputation of CSM and CCP, but sets a horrible horrible precedent for the future fo the game.
Mittani the Great, please do us a favor and resign. Do us all a favour and stop posting. Human with some moral decency disagrees with you. If you support Mittani, it pretty much explains that you also support encouraging people with suicidal tendency to commit suicide.
Well, you've just killed someone.
Hope you can live with it for the rest of your life.
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Freya Dimaloun
Hedion University Amarr Empire
0
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Posted - 2012.03.27 08:22:00 -
[2058] - Quote
Wow the internet is not magical faerie land of happiness and gumdrops. eve is ruthless and speech should not be censored in any way. and why the **** would you say your gunna commit suicide to someone you don't know all that well? to me it seems like this guy was not being serious. i don't know all the facts but if i was scamming someone and they said they were going to kill themselves. i probably would be like whatever have fun. |

Sentinel Eeex
Thunderwaffe Goonswarm Federation
84
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Posted - 2012.03.27 08:23:00 -
[2059] - Quote
Sasha Azala wrote:Karadion wrote: I did not pick the outcome or their threat therefore I am not responsible. These people make those choices out of their own doing.
You can influence the outcome of a threat and if you do that you're partially responsible.
Ok then.
If you post anything else, ever again, I will kill myself.
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Anya Klibor
Error-404
19
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Posted - 2012.03.27 08:24:00 -
[2060] - Quote
Freya Dimaloun wrote:Wow the internet is not magical faerie land of happiness and gumdrops. eve is ruthless and speech should not be censored in any way. and why the **** would you say your gunna commit suicide to someone you don't know all that well? to me it seems like this guy was not being serious. i don't know all the facts but if i was scamming someone and they said they were going to i probably would be like whatever have fun.
I'm sorry, but according to MIttens, the following applies to you:
Quote:You're not a valid subscriber, you're a NPC alt. The opinions of NPC alts don't count for anything. |

Bella Rugente
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
17
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Posted - 2012.03.27 08:24:00 -
[2061] - Quote
We will miss you Sentinel. |

Heimatar Auctioneer
Republic University Minmatar Republic
467
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Posted - 2012.03.27 08:27:00 -
[2062] - Quote
Freya Dimaloun wrote:Wow the internet is not magical faerie land of happiness and gumdrops. eve is ruthless and speech should not be censored in any way. and why the **** would you say your gunna commit suicide to someone you don't know all that well? to me it seems like this guy was not being serious. i don't know all the facts but if i was scamming someone and they said they were going to i probably would be like whatever have fun.
You are absolutely right. We don't care if people scam. It was COMPLETELY OK for Mittani to harras that unfortunate miner ingame. What became a big problem is that he, in front of thousands of audiences (both live and stream attendees), exhibited the best of EVE Online behavior by knowingly encouraging thousands of others to provoke a person with known suicidal tendency, to actually commit suicide.
By keeping Mittani as CSM, we are basically telling the world that it is completely ok to harras and drive others to commit suicide, and that CCP COMPLETELY SUPPORTS it! |

Fenrir Cesaille
Mercs of Vengeance The Methodical Alliance
1
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Posted - 2012.03.27 08:28:00 -
[2063] - Quote
Anya Klibor wrote:Freya Dimaloun wrote:Wow the internet is not magical faerie land of happiness and gumdrops. eve is ruthless and speech should not be censored in any way. and why the **** would you say your gunna commit suicide to someone you don't know all that well? to me it seems like this guy was not being serious. i don't know all the facts but if i was scamming someone and they said they were going to i probably would be like whatever have fun. I'm sorry, but according to MIttens, the following applies to you: Quote:You're not a valid subscriber, you're a NPC alt. The opinions of NPC alts don't count for anything. there that better... i got bored and made this =D EVE is ruthless |

Snow Axe
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
147
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Posted - 2012.03.27 08:29:00 -
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"Scamming and griefing is fine so long as it's not the criteria we're trying to use to get The Mittani banned, but if it fits the criteria we're using to get The Mittani banned, then THE MITTANI NEEDS TO BE BANNED!" |

James Amril-Kesh
Viziam Amarr Empire
135
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Posted - 2012.03.27 08:32:00 -
[2065] - Quote
Notice who's giving rational arguments in this thread? I do. Support showing T2 and faction frequency crystal damage in the info window! |

Fenrir Cesaille
Mercs of Vengeance The Methodical Alliance
1
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Posted - 2012.03.27 08:32:00 -
[2066] - Quote
Heimatar Auctioneer wrote:Freya Dimaloun wrote:Wow the internet is not magical faerie land of happiness and gumdrops. eve is ruthless and speech should not be censored in any way. and why the **** would you say your gunna commit suicide to someone you don't know all that well? to me it seems like this guy was not being serious. i don't know all the facts but if i was scamming someone and they said they were going to i probably would be like whatever have fun. You are absolutely right. We don't care if people scam. It was COMPLETELY OK for Mittani to harras that unfortunate miner ingame. What became a big problem is that he, in front of thousands of audiences (both live and stream attendees), exhibited the best of EVE Online behavior by knowingly encouraging thousands of others to provoke a person with known suicidal tendency, to actually commit suicide. By keeping Mittani as CSM, we are basically telling the world that it is completely ok to harras and drive others to commit suicide, and that CCP COMPLETELY SUPPORTS it!
uhh thats shooting pretty far...how about i dress up in womans clothes and post it on the forums. would it then be wrong to ridicule me? no because im putting it out there. that guy put his feelings out there so there free game free game. |

Highauger's animated corpse
Stargate SG-1 Fatal Ascension
9
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Posted - 2012.03.27 08:32:00 -
[2067] - Quote
Enuen Ravenseye wrote:Valerius Anthar wrote: I'd like to chime in on this.
I suffer from clinical depression. It varies in severity based on circumstances and the given day, and will pretty much be with me for the rest of my days. I don't keep it under control by bitching and whining about it online, I do it through a mixture of happy pills, exercise, willpower, a good diet, work and routine. I have to agree with Simi that the casual use of suicide as an attention seeker or threat, especially online, only reinforces the stigma about depression not being a disease but a character "defect". People who do this trivialize what isn't trivial, and he/she deserves the abuse they received.
Ultimately, when I was at my zenith, only I could pull myself out. Only I can beat back what Churchill called "the black dog." I will graciously accept the help of family and friends but in the end it's my responsibility to manage my depression and keep buggering on. What I will not do is attempt to guilt trip others, especially strangers, into feeling sorry for me. That is simply pathetic.
Damn your perspective and logic! I'll just add that I went through a period of severe depression myself years ago (bad breakup and consequences). It was not a good time in my life. The hardest part was bringing my family together and letting them know what was happening. But you know what? If, at any point, I had told my family that I was considering killing myself over a ******* video game, my father would have handed me his gun and said "Don't make a mess in the house". There's a huge difference between "cry for help" and "whining drama queen". People need to get some perspective in their lives.
This |

Heimatar Auctioneer
Republic University Minmatar Republic
467
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Posted - 2012.03.27 08:34:00 -
[2068] - Quote
Fenrir Cesaille wrote:Heimatar Auctioneer wrote:Freya Dimaloun wrote:Wow the internet is not magical faerie land of happiness and gumdrops. eve is ruthless and speech should not be censored in any way. and why the **** would you say your gunna commit suicide to someone you don't know all that well? to me it seems like this guy was not being serious. i don't know all the facts but if i was scamming someone and they said they were going to i probably would be like whatever have fun. You are absolutely right. We don't care if people scam. It was COMPLETELY OK for Mittani to harras that unfortunate miner ingame. What became a big problem is that he, in front of thousands of audiences (both live and stream attendees), exhibited the best of EVE Online behavior by knowingly encouraging thousands of others to provoke a person with known suicidal tendency, to actually commit suicide. By keeping Mittani as CSM, we are basically telling the world that it is completely ok to harras and drive others to commit suicide, and that CCP COMPLETELY SUPPORTS it! uhh thats shooting pretty far...how about i dress up in womans clothes and post it on the forums. would it then be wrong to ridicule me? no because im putting it out there. that guy put his feelings out there so there free game free game.
Umm...... no. |

Fenrir Cesaille
Mercs of Vengeance The Methodical Alliance
1
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Posted - 2012.03.27 08:35:00 -
[2069] - Quote
Highauger's animated corpse wrote:Enuen Ravenseye wrote:Valerius Anthar wrote: I'd like to chime in on this.
I suffer from clinical depression. It varies in severity based on circumstances and the given day, and will pretty much be with me for the rest of my days. I don't keep it under control by bitching and whining about it online, I do it through a mixture of happy pills, exercise, willpower, a good diet, work and routine. I have to agree with Simi that the casual use of suicide as an attention seeker or threat, especially online, only reinforces the stigma about depression not being a disease but a character "defect". People who do this trivialize what isn't trivial, and he/she deserves the abuse they received.
Ultimately, when I was at my zenith, only I could pull myself out. Only I can beat back what Churchill called "the black dog." I will graciously accept the help of family and friends but in the end it's my responsibility to manage my depression and keep buggering on. What I will not do is attempt to guilt trip others, especially strangers, into feeling sorry for me. That is simply pathetic.
Damn your perspective and logic! I'll just add that I went through a period of severe depression myself years ago (bad breakup and consequences). It was not a good time in my life. The hardest part was bringing my family together and letting them know what was happening. But you know what? If, at any point, I had told my family that I was considering killing myself over a ******* video game, my father would have handed me his gun and said "Don't make a mess in the house". There's a huge difference between "cry for help" and "whining drama queen". People need to get some perspective in their lives. This *i applaud you sirs*
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Rukia Taika
Allied Operations Jokers Wild.
6
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Posted - 2012.03.27 08:40:00 -
[2070] - Quote
Destru Kaneda wrote:**** this PC bullshit. It was a joke in poor taste, last time I checked that's not a crime. And to be frank, if someone actually kills themselves over this then good riddance.
It may not be crime but you have to look at this way. SCUMBAG Mittan is a CSM member the chairman nonetheless this is a position even how much of a scum bag he is should have showed better control over his mouth but spent time talking as he pulled **** out of his ass or was it his mouth. either way asking a community to email bomb this guy was in poor taste and he should step down but something tells me with all his alts he has been using to post on here to derail everyone from the scene will never happen.
Maybe he will be reminded if he is a lawyer like he says his conduct in the community could possibly be brought to the attention of his peers lose his job or possibly losing his pretty piece of paper that allows him to practice law.
Karma is a wonderful person she is kind and harsh at the same time. |
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