Is the bible the real life EULA of which you speak?

I'm kinda playing devil's advocate here, but if we go down this path would't that mean any miner with a ship name of "I"m suicidal" couldn't be ganked then? Or if an alliance leader made a blog post saying how depressed they where, and how the alliance was the only thing that kept them alive, would't that mean no one who read that could war dec them (a war dec is just calling on thousands of people to harass someone right)? I mean it is EVE, people would do that.

I think the problem is we are in a really grey area here and what I don't like seeing is all the spin to make this out as the worst case scenario of bullying for political gain which in the long run may hurt the cold harsh universe of EVE most of us love.

Is the bible the real life EULA of which you speak?

Just to nitpick I don't believe any game EULA has ever been tried in court.

id like to know what iceladic law says about cyber bullying tbh...

Just to nitpick I don't believe any game EULA has ever been tried in court.

No one believes that except, well, I was going to say "you and the NPC sockpuppets", but they don't really believe that either.

When someone in game tells me to commit self harm, consume fecal matter and expire, or perform oral sex on a large domesticated farm animal, they are obviously not actually intending me to do so -- it's smack talk, trash talk, and general e-peen wiggling.

Alex, while drunk, forgot himself and brought this attitude out of his in game persona into his public persona. He was ashamed and apologized. Would he still say to harass someone in game as "The Mittani"? Probably. Would he do so with the intent to actually cause someone to kill themselves in real life? Hell no. Despite the foolish mewlings of a bunch of 13 year olds, Goons-the-Players aren't actually evil. We're just assholes.

By intentionally acting disingenuous you are actively attempting to inflate this scandal in such a way to further an agenda. Anyone can tell this by simply watching the thread and your repeated, asinine posts.

With that in mind, and with my aforementioned disclaimer about the difference between in game persona and public persona: I hope you commit a large amount of self harm, consume fecal matter and expire, or perhaps asphyxiate on a large amount of donkey excretions, you ignorant player of low skill, abysmal intellect, and dismal hygiene.

You may not abuse, harass or threaten another player or authorized representative of CCP, including customer service personnel and volunteers. This includes, but is not limited to: petitioning with false information in an attempt to gain from it or have someone else suffer from it; sending excessive e-mails, EVE-mails or petitions; obstructing CCP Employees from doing their jobs; refusal to follow the instructions of a CCP Employee; or implying favoritism by a CCP Employee.


allready posted this once before come on guys read the EULA before you ask something

Is the bible the real life EULA of which you speak?

Strange, I looked at the EULA http://community.eveonline.com/pnp/eula.asp , but didn't find the part you're quoting.

Strange, I looked at the EULA http://community.eveonline.com/pnp/eula.asp , but didn't find the part you're quoting.

CCP stance

"I want to reassure you that CCP in no way condones the harassment of players, especially those who suffer from depression or suicidal thoughts, as we understand the possible consequences of such abhorrent behaviour," CCP public relations and social media specialist Ned Coker said.

"Our Terms of Service (TOS), which can be found here, mirror our company's stance on this matter.

"While the content of online interactions between players cannot realistically be gated within our game worlds, we do take very seriously accusations of such behaviour between our players.

"Furthermore, we have a suicide hotline protocol which has, in specific cases, made a difference for several unfortunately troubled players. We appreciate you voicing your concerns on this level, and CCP will be very vigilant in monitoring any behaviour directed towards the individual named in the presentation.

"We are undertaking a full internal review of this panel as well as the process used for vetting the panel's materials. Even though this panel was billed as unfiltered by CCP, we expect public presentations to be courteous and professional towards others."

In other words
"We are commanding the Mitinni to post a public apology on the forums and then shut up for a few days while we hope this all blows over."

Yeah it is a very grey area. As for the miner, I suppose the offense would occur when one has knowledge of the potential victim's situation on a more personal level than say just a ship name. As for the alliance leader, I'm not sure the same argument can be made since the operative word is "them" not "him".

Mitanni, supposedly, specifically singled out a player focusing that attention like a magnifying glass in the hands of a child onto a ant while supposedly rebuking any concern for the individuals mentioned state while supposedly being informed of his mental state. So, IDK, there's a difference, isn't there?

In other words
"We are commanding the Mitinni to post a public apology on the forums and then shut up for a few days while we hope this all blows over."

This reminds me of the time my wife made me to go some party with all her intolerable mouthed butt lard spinster friends from college. I did the only reasonable thing and got voraciously drunk so much so that even these horrible pizza dumpsters started to look attractive and I started suggesting threesomes. I came too with a furious wife and all her jealous perma-single friends jumping the bandwagon to have me resign from the relationship. I maintained that if she didn't want me to get shattered drunk and say rude stuff to her worthless friends she shouldn't have invited me in the first place, but alas the jury ran away with the case and divorced us before the judge had even entered the court.

It all worked out in the end. I found a new girl whose into threesomes with other games and the ex...well she's stuck sitting around with all her titan sized friends floating from bar to bar forever lonely.

its in the EULA by reference in this paragraph:

C. Compliance with Rules of Conduct
You agree to observe and abide by the Rules of Conduct as may be amended by CCP from time to time. The current version of the Rules of Conduct may be viewed at http://www.eveonline.com/pnp/terms.asp, and are incorporated in the EULA by reference.

One opinion
what do you think how much influence, with CCP, Mittani will have after all of this??? (if he stays where he is

NONE!