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Avila Cracko
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
225
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Posted - 2012.03.27 18:39:00 -
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One opinion: what do you think how much influence, with CCP, Mittani will have after all of this??? (if he stays where he is)
NONE! |

RougeOperator
Autocannons Anonymous Late Night Alliance
272
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Posted - 2012.03.27 18:39:00 -
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Devil's Call wrote:It's funny how people take advantage of this mistake he made, and now do everything to see him hang. Just like real politics, right? I really hope he doesn't resign, that would be redicilous.
Yeah cause getting behind someone that calls for someones death in real life is so cool?
Get your compass checked mate.
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Kill Rockstar
Perkone Caldari State
5
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Posted - 2012.03.27 18:39:00 -
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KanashiiKami wrote: actually he did change the game, he ordered the ice gankings, this move as seen by pirates being a "nice" trends blows into numerous other miner gankings. he did change the entire eve economics. on a whim? i do not know ... but if 1 player can do that, what am i paying to play this game for? a system of game mechanics that can be changed by 1 player? so overnight i can find i can no longer feed my POS due to the tyranny of 1 player and his followers?
i sound too carebearish? maybe ... so what happens to the game if all 4 empires are miner ganked on his command? CCp cant do anything, so does it mean he have power over CCP as well and "destroy" the game experience for thousands of other players?
I have to avoid dying in 0.0 and wh's on a daily basis. Your inability to stay alive in High Sec is irrelevant. He doesn't change Game Mechanics and he certainly does not do anything other than his virtual claim to fame as a single entity (not that it required any sort of skill). Being able to manipulate the market through ganking miners and haulers are what makes this game so fantastic, why are you miners not forming up a massive alliance with RR mining fleets to protect your self? Unite and fight miners vs goons gogogogo viva le revolution!!!
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Xen Solarus
Inner 5phere
72
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Posted - 2012.03.27 18:40:00 -
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Still waiting for step 2! |

Prince Kobol
387
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Posted - 2012.03.27 18:41:00 -
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Devil's Call wrote:It's funny how people take advantage of this mistake he made, and now do everything to see him hang. Just like real politics, right? I really hope he doesn't resign, that would be redicilous.
You mean when the goons do it its called "metagaming" and its cool, but when others do it "its all bad and evil"
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Kallynda Nai
Tightpants Inc
11
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Posted - 2012.03.27 18:41:00 -
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RougeOperator wrote:Meissa Anunthiel wrote:RougeOperator wrote:Meissa Anunthiel wrote:First off, it's not something I'd ever say personally and find objectionable because that's not what I do, but I'm not the goonest of the goons either so I also believe one has to keep a sense of proportion and perspective.
The Mittani, CEO of goonswarm and notorious ahole did a presentation, he did so in that quality. While he does also have a seat on the CSM, he didn't act in that capacity anymore than he did act as a lawyer, as an american or as a male. Saying it's the same thing would be akin to saying "American incite others to harass blokes, death to all americans".
Circumstances play a role, it's fanfest where goons spend days pretending to be idiots or griefers. There was also booze involved.
It's blown out of proportion, people would do well to get out of the lynch mentality and analyze the actual damage/impact for a moment before calling for blood, or are we requesting that CCP ban all those who "hoped" CCP Soundwave would die in a fire for InCarna? The Mittani/Alex was the one calling for a lynch mob to go after someone to the point of death. Murder by proxies. Being drunk is not an excuse. He needs to man up and step down from the CSM at minimum. He shouldn't have to discuss anything, he should have already done so. The scarier thing is the Goons that are basically defending driving someone to their death. Its not about the specific person anymore its about the Goon culture. If they get away with it here there is now a green light to do it again down the road. Goons clamoring to defend this heinous bull is disturbing even for them. Just to defend their cult leader. I'm certainly not going to defend the words he said, I'm just calling for a little sense of perspective. The goons didn't harass the guy to death. As a matter of fact when Wis was contacted he didn't even know about the whole afair. By that time (or near enough as makes no difference), mittens had apologized and called off the mob. No damage done. It shouldn't be condoned, but an apology and retraction is good enough for me if there was no damage. So was it tasteless, sure... but look at the damage that was actually done: none. Only because they didnt have a chance too cause people got on top of the issue FAST. Its not about what did happen but what might have happened. Or might happen again if not dealt with. He called for someones death. When will this sink in. Even if it was a joke, many might have taken it to the logical conclusion if we didnt notice what he did. Heck people might still go after the person in question. I dont use the persons name on purpose and i would think others would do the same. The goons are the ones spreading the person name left and right even now. Even worse you are using the persons character name in your posts. Have some sense please. I have counter points to your he is not upset that i wont repost because I dont want him brought into it. Its not just about him its about the next player this might happen too. And the precedent that must be set by CCP.
Minority Report ITT |

Mr Kidd
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
451
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Posted - 2012.03.27 18:41:00 -
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Xen Solarus wrote:Still waiting for step 2!
I think he really meant Two Step. Not step 2. So maybe he's going to have Two Step resign, kinda like a whipping boy? We want breast augmentations and sluttier clothing in the NeX! |

Kallynda Nai
Tightpants Inc
11
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Posted - 2012.03.27 18:42:00 -
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RougeOperator wrote:Most everyone believes with good cause the goons and maybe other more malicious people would have followed through on it if not for the people calling for an investigation. Putting a full stop to what might have happened.
Think about that, most think you would have happily murdered someone. Then laughed about it.
Proud of being a goon still?
Name these people. Cite your sources. Go on, I'll wait. |

Giuliano Verti
State War Academy Caldari State
15
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Posted - 2012.03.27 18:44:00 -
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Meissa Anunthiel wrote:First off, it's not something I'd ever say personally and find objectionable because that's not what I do, but I'm not the goonest of the goons either so I also believe one has to keep a sense of proportion and perspective.
The Mittani, CEO of goonswarm and notorious ahole did a presentation, he did so in that quality. While he does also have a seat on the CSM, he didn't act in that capacity anymore than he did act as a lawyer, as an american or as a male. Saying it's the same thing would be akin to saying "American incite others to harass blokes, death to all americans".
Circumstances play a role, it's fanfest where goons spend days pretending to be idiots or griefers. There was also booze involved.
It's blown out of proportion, people would do well to get out of the lynch mentality and analyze the actual damage/impact for a moment before calling for blood, or are we requesting that CCP ban all those who "hoped" CCP Soundwave would die in a fire for InCarna?
So.... if I shoot at someone and fail... is ok... because look... no damage!
Come on!
He need to resign, is the right thing to do, he need to be a man and learn for hes mistakes.
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Devil's Call
Perkone Caldari State
744
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Posted - 2012.03.27 18:45:00 -
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RougeOperator wrote:Devil's Call wrote:It's funny how people take advantage of this mistake he made, and now do everything to see him hang. Just like real politics, right? I really hope he doesn't resign, that would be redicilous. Yeah cause getting behind someone that calls for someones death in real life is so cool? Get your compass checked mate.
It sure isn't cool, and he's fully aware of that. Let him live in shame instead of getting him resigned. |

KanashiiKami
18
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Posted - 2012.03.27 18:46:00 -
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Kill Rockstar wrote:KanashiiKami wrote: actually he did change the game, he ordered the ice gankings, this move as seen by pirates being a "nice" trends blows into numerous other miner gankings. he did change the entire eve economics. on a whim? i do not know ... but if 1 player can do that, what am i paying to play this game for? a system of game mechanics that can be changed by 1 player? so overnight i can find i can no longer feed my POS due to the tyranny of 1 player and his followers?
i sound too carebearish? maybe ... so what happens to the game if all 4 empires are miner ganked on his command? CCp cant do anything, so does it mean he have power over CCP as well and "destroy" the game experience for thousands of other players? I have to avoid dying in 0.0 and wh's on a daily basis. Your inability to stay alive in High Sec is irrelevant. He doesn't change Game Mechanics and he certainly does not do anything other than his virtual claim to fame as a single entity (not that it required any sort of skill). Being able to manipulate the market through ganking miners and haulers are what makes this game so fantastic, why are you miners not forming up a massive alliance with RR mining fleets to protect your self? Unite and fight miners vs goons gogogogo viva le revolution!!!
errr because to create a new toon just to eliminate a ganker .... in a ganker style ... is not what most miners do?
true ... doesnt change mechanics ... but i like a revolution ... BAN him ! WUT ??? |

RougeOperator
Autocannons Anonymous Late Night Alliance
274
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Posted - 2012.03.27 18:46:00 -
[2352] - Quote
Kallynda Nai wrote:RougeOperator wrote:Most everyone believes with good cause the goons and maybe other more malicious people would have followed through on it if not for the people calling for an investigation. Putting a full stop to what might have happened.
Think about that, most think you would have happily murdered someone. Then laughed about it.
Proud of being a goon still?
Name these people. Cite your sources. Go on, I'll wait.
Scrolls through multiple threads...... Googles CCP investigates Cyberbullying ......
OH you were making a joke. I get it now. |

RougeOperator
Autocannons Anonymous Late Night Alliance
274
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Posted - 2012.03.27 18:47:00 -
[2353] - Quote
Devil's Call wrote:RougeOperator wrote:Devil's Call wrote:It's funny how people take advantage of this mistake he made, and now do everything to see him hang. Just like real politics, right? I really hope he doesn't resign, that would be redicilous. Yeah cause getting behind someone that calls for someones death in real life is so cool? Get your compass checked mate. It sure isn't cool, and he's fully aware of that. Let him live in shame instead of getting him resigned.
No actions matter more. We cant confirm shame. |

Karim alRashid
Aliastra Gallente Federation
133
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Posted - 2012.03.27 18:48:00 -
[2354] - Quote
RougeOperator wrote:Most everyone believes with good cause the goons and maybe other more malicious people would have followed through on it if not for the people calling for an investigation. Putting a full stop to what might have happened.
And the major reason would be that some nasty people beat him in a computer game as opposed to whatever RL factors (society, school, job, etc) led him to such a mental state in the first place?
Perhaps it's YOU who should get his compass checked, because it's apparently pointing in the wrong direction.
What's next? First person shooters cause kids to kill their schoolmates ?
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Mr Celsius
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
0
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Posted - 2012.03.27 18:49:00 -
[2355] - Quote
RougeOperator wrote: Most everyone believes with good cause the goons and maybe other more malicious people would have followed through on it if not for the people calling for an investigation. Putting a full stop to what might have happened.
Think about that, most think you would have happily murdered someone. Then laughed about it.
Proud of being a goon still?
It was actually starting to happen as evidenced in an interview with said person in question here - http://www.evenews24.com/2012/03/27/failing-in-so-many-ways-the-mittani-%E2%80%93-hero/
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[21:19:54] *** *** > Well I am not sure what is going on.. I know I have had some people say I should put a pentition in. Witch I have not. Since I have not seen the video or anything. But that would also explain why the goons are moving into my system now and starting [21:19:57] *** ***> ganking here.
Thankfully for all party's involved he seem's pretty chilled out about it atm, but as said earlier, CCP is keeping a close eye on things to make sure it does not get out of hand. |

Xen Solarus
Inner 5phere
72
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Posted - 2012.03.27 18:51:00 -
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Mr Kidd wrote:Xen Solarus wrote:Still waiting for step 2! I think he really meant Two Step. Not step 2. So maybe he's going to have Two Step resign, kinda like a whipping boy?
Or maybe Two-Step will become the new chairman!! Wow, how awesome would that be!? An chairman that we can actually look up to, and actually fill the role of someone that represents the very best that eve has to offer. Someone that is honorable, fair and treats people with respect and dignity.
Nah, sounds too good to be true to me too. 
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Prince Kobol
390
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Posted - 2012.03.27 18:52:00 -
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Karim alRashid wrote:RougeOperator wrote:Most everyone believes with good cause the goons and maybe other more malicious people would have followed through on it if not for the people calling for an investigation. Putting a full stop to what might have happened.
And the major reason would be that some nasty people beat him in a computer game as opposed to whatever RL factors (society, school, job, etc) led him to such a mental state in the first place? Perhaps it's YOU who should get his compass checked, because it's apparently pointing in the wrong direction. What's next? First person shooters cause kids to kill their schoolmates ?
Your getting it now.
You see in many countries that is exactly what a lot of idiots are saying.
Here in the UK Computer Games have been blamed for people doing horrific things, and I mean truly horrific.
Also you will find that in every instance of where people have gone on a rampage at their local schools or other places, Computer Games have been mentioned.
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Vertisce Soritenshi
Varion Galactic Tragedy.
1368
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Posted - 2012.03.27 18:53:00 -
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Mr Celsius wrote:RougeOperator wrote: Most everyone believes with good cause the goons and maybe other more malicious people would have followed through on it if not for the people calling for an investigation. Putting a full stop to what might have happened.
Think about that, most think you would have happily murdered someone. Then laughed about it.
Proud of being a goon still?
It was actually starting to happen as evidenced in an interview with said person in question here - http://www.evenews24.com/2012/03/27/failing-in-so-many-ways-the-mittani-%E2%80%93-hero/And to Quote - [21:19:54] *** *** > Well I am not sure what is going on.. I know I have had some people say I should put a pentition in. Witch I have not. Since I have not seen the video or anything. But that would also explain why the goons are moving into my system now and starting [21:19:57] *** ***> ganking here. Thankfully for all party's involved he seem's pretty chilled out about it atm, but as said earlier, CCP is keeping a close eye on things to make sure it does not get out of hand. One random guy talking to him is hardly an "interview". The guy called out didn't know what was going on. It may have been different if he actually saw the video. We don't know. Nothing has been said about it yet. EvE is not about PvP.-á EvE is about the SANDBOX! - CCP!-á Open the door!!! |

Kill Rockstar
Perkone Caldari State
5
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Posted - 2012.03.27 18:54:00 -
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KanashiiKami wrote: errr because to create a new toon just to eliminate a ganker .... in a ganker style ... is not what most miners do?
true ... doesnt change mechanics ... but i like a revolution ... BAN him !
of course you dont get it |

Xen Solarus
Inner 5phere
74
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Posted - 2012.03.27 19:02:00 -
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Meissa Anunthiel wrote:
So was it tasteless, sure... but look at the damage that was actually done: none.
So basicly, what your saying, people can say whatever they like, as long as it doesn't actually cause any physical damage? So i could get all my mates to try to get you to hang yourself, and as long as you don't actually do it, thats fine?
What about if we are all calling you the "n" word cause we know you're black? That fine too?
How about we all laugh at the fact someone's got no legs, and encourage them to push themselves in a pool? Oh, thats ok though, he didn't actually do what we suggested, so thats fine too!
What you say has consequences, be it physical or psychological. If he was messaging these things in game, i'd be like, Meh! Thats Mittani, everyone knows he's a ****, just ignore him.
Doing it live on the internet, in person, and trying to get others to follow suit, makes it a whole different ball-game! No surprise at-all its exploded this big. Don't you guys watch politics in the real-world?
And im still amazed that Goons are STILL defending his actions, even when he's admitted he's at fault.
Oh, yeah, i forgot. They already know his apology was a Fake! |

Mr Celsius
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
1
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Posted - 2012.03.27 19:03:00 -
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Vertisce Soritenshi wrote: One random guy talking to him is hardly an "interview". .
:facepalm: |

de4deye
Mortis Angelus Northern Coalition.
74
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Posted - 2012.03.27 19:06:00 -
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Mittens, It's time to resign. |

Kallynda Nai
Tightpants Inc
13
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Posted - 2012.03.27 19:08:00 -
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RougeOperator wrote:Kallynda Nai wrote:RougeOperator wrote:Most everyone believes with good cause the goons and maybe other more malicious people would have followed through on it if not for the people calling for an investigation. Putting a full stop to what might have happened.
Think about that, most think you would have happily murdered someone. Then laughed about it.
Proud of being a goon still?
Name these people. Cite your sources. Go on, I'll wait. Scrolls through multiple threads...... Googles CCP investigates Cyberbullying ......
OH you were making a joke. I get it now.
You're delusional if you think a few forum threads constitutes "most everyone."
I mean, I know you have a hard on for The Mittani, but do try to stay in the realm of reality. |

Akrasjel Lanate
Black Thorne Corporation Black Thorne Alliance
672
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Posted - 2012.03.27 19:10:00 -
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Meissa Anunthiel wrote:...t's fanfest where goons spend days pretending to be idiots or griefers.
Good to know 
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KanashiiKami
18
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Posted - 2012.03.27 19:12:00 -
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Kill Rockstar wrote:KanashiiKami wrote: errr because to create a new toon just to eliminate a ganker .... in a ganker style ... is not what most miners do?
true ... doesnt change mechanics ... but i like a revolution ... BAN him ! of course you dont get it
i noe i noe ... get some teeth .... and also ... BAN HIM !
WUT ??? |

KanashiiKami
18
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Posted - 2012.03.27 19:14:00 -
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Xen Solarus wrote:Meissa Anunthiel wrote:
So was it tasteless, sure... but look at the damage that was actually done: none.
So basicly, what your saying, people can say whatever they like, as long as it doesn't actually cause any physical damage? So i could get all my mates to try to get you to hang yourself, and as long as you don't actually do it, thats fine? What about if we are all calling you the "n" word cause we know you're black? That fine too? How about we all laugh at the fact someone's got no legs, and encourage them to push themselves in a pool? Oh, thats ok though, he didn't actually do what we suggested, so thats fine too! What you say has consequences, be it physical or psychological. If he was messaging these things in game, i'd be like, Meh! Thats Mittani, everyone knows he's a ****, just ignore him. Doing it live on the internet, in person, and trying to get others to follow suit, makes it a whole different ball-game! No surprise at-all its exploded this big. Don't you guys watch politics in the real-world? And im still amazed that Goons are STILL defending his actions, even when he's admitted he's at fault. Oh, yeah, i forgot. They already know his apology was a Fake!
i really like what you said ... i say again .. lifetime BAN for all his toons
WUT ??? |

Taihbea
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
27
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Posted - 2012.03.27 19:20:00 -
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By EULA he should get a ban on all his accounts. If that doesn't happen then CCP just pretty much stated that they suck dicks. If you wrote a law that you don't follow yet you come with big words on fanciest how ******* much you care to make this game better then you're nothing but a bunch of hypocrites. |

Arakkis Melanogaster
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
6
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Posted - 2012.03.27 19:24:00 -
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Taihbea wrote:By EULA he should get a ban on all his accounts. If that doesn't happen then CCP just pretty much stated that they suck dicks. If you wrote a law that you don't follow yet you come with big words on fanfest how ******* much you care to make this game better then you're nothing but a bunch of hypocrites. all your bot wars, plex selling wars mean **** compared to this. You let a guy publicly harras other person. Is the bible the real life EULA of which you speak? |

KanashiiKami
18
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Posted - 2012.03.27 19:24:00 -
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Taihbea wrote:By EULA he should get a ban on all his accounts. If that doesn't happen then CCP just pretty much stated that they suck dicks. If you wrote a law that you don't follow yet you come with big words on fanfest how ******* much you care to make this game better then you're nothing but a bunch of hypocrites. all your bot wars, plex selling wars mean **** compared to this. You let a guy publicly harras other person.
yes life time ban! WUT ??? |

KanashiiKami
18
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Posted - 2012.03.27 19:26:00 -
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Xen Solarus wrote:Meissa Anunthiel wrote:
So was it tasteless, sure... but look at the damage that was actually done: none.
So basicly, what your saying, people can say whatever they like, as long as it doesn't actually cause any physical damage? So i could get all my mates to try to get you to hang yourself, and as long as you don't actually do it, thats fine? What about if we are all calling you the "n" word cause we know you're black? That fine too? How about we all laugh at the fact someone's got no legs, and encourage them to push themselves in a pool? Oh, thats ok though, he didn't actually do what we suggested, so thats fine too! What you say has consequences, be it physical or psychological. If he was messaging these things in game, i'd be like, Meh! Thats Mittani, everyone knows he's a ****, just ignore him. Doing it live on the internet, in person, and trying to get others to follow suit, makes it a whole different ball-game! No surprise at-all its exploded this big. Don't you guys watch politics in the real-world? And im still amazed that Goons are STILL defending his actions, even when he's admitted he's at fault. Oh, yeah, i forgot. They already know his apology was a Fake!
i think what you said should be reposted on all other forums n multiple times so people get an idea of the real problem ... WUT ??? |
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