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Javier McPoopbeard
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.03.26 19:07:00 -
[571] - Quote
lol |
Steelshine
Wildly Inappropriate Goonswarm Federation
63
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Posted - 2012.03.26 19:08:00 -
[572] - Quote
Well I guess if you guys don't like the Mittani you should probably just get 11,000 people to vote for someone you agree with |
Blatant Forum Alt
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
70
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Posted - 2012.03.26 19:09:00 -
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So a guy mocked a crying carebear playing the sympathy card during 'fanfest' aka 'drinkfest - so what?
If the guy was GENUINELY suicidal, there is no way he would be playing Eve. Having been to the brink myself a few years back - and Im not joking, I was standing on the top of the bridge - a guy who is actually on the brink of suicide would not be playing a computer game, this was just a guy playing the sympathy card, fishing for isk or at least to be left alone to mine. In other words, worthy of being mocked. |
Gogela
Freeport Exploration Loosely Affiliated Pirates Alliance
472
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Posted - 2012.03.26 19:09:00 -
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EnderCapitalG wrote:Also, I wasn't aware that the EULA covered out of game actions? It actually does. However, it cuts both ways in this context. I don't even need to know what happened... CCP would be totally covered to do whatever they want here.
Quote:ii. Termination of EULA CCP may terminate the EULA, close all your Accounts, and cancel all rights granted to you under the EULA if: (i) you fail to pay the subscription fee when due; (ii) CCP is unable to verify or authenticate any information you provide; (iii) you or anyone using any of your Accounts materially breaches the EULA, makes any unauthorized use of the System or Software, or infringes the rights of CCP or any third party; or (iv) CCP becomes aware of game play, chat or player activity under your Account that is, in CCP's discretion, inappropriate or in violation of the Rules of Conduct. Such termination shall be effective upon notice transmitted via electronic mail, or any other means reasonably calculated to reach you. CCP reserves the right to terminate any and all other Accounts that share the name, phone number, e-mail address, internet protocol address or credit card number with the closed Account. Termination by CCP under this section shall be without prejudice to or waiver of any and all of CCP's other rights or remedies, all of which are expressly reserved, survive termination, and are cumulative. You will not receive a refund of prepaid subscription fees for a termination pursuant to this section.
*snip*
You may encounter and converse with people who are rude, offensive, belligerent, and who may use indecent, obscene, and/or threatening or harassing language while playing the Game. You may report any instances of such behavior to CCP. CCP will investigate and take such measures as CCP, in its sole judgment, determines are reasonable under the circumstances. CCP does not guarantee that you will not encounter behavior of others that you may view as insulting, demeaning, offensive, threatening or harassing. You assume all risk associated with playing the Game, and CCP assumes no responsibility for the conduct of any other players, and shall not be liable to you or any other person for their conduct.
Read the EULA. CCP owns us
I'm fine with it...
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oldbutfeelingyoung
510
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Posted - 2012.03.26 19:09:00 -
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if i like Mittani or don,t like him it doesn,t matter much. What matters what CCP thinks, if this is message is escalating on to the more important game sites There are 3 sides of the storie
1 guy saying to commit suicide 1 guy saying let make him do it the ones that listen to the above person and are the ones who are just as criminalas he is (at least in some countries)
if this happend on some out of EvE forum nothing would come to our attention But this happened in a big event organised by CCP herself
I don,t think they react today ,but they have to tomorrow Good luck Mittens ,you need it
pushing that button ,not expecting something. But suddenly the door opens and the next thing i see myself flooting in space,just before i wake up again. thank god for clones |
SicSemperTyrannis
Wildly Inappropriate Goonswarm Federation
3
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Posted - 2012.03.26 19:10:00 -
[576] - Quote
Look at dat fukken thread |
RougeOperator
Autocannons Anonymous Late Night Alliance
173
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Posted - 2012.03.26 19:10:00 -
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They went to far with this at the panel.
What they did at the panel was no longer a game anymore.
This is rather sickening actually, I waited to see what it was about cause i missed it and finally got around to looking at it.
This is practically criminal conduct.
There are real people behind the accounts we play.
Advocating pushing someone to kill themselves is freaking evil. The its just s joke line doesn't hold up under scrutiny.
I'm very disappointed in everyone that took part in that panel.
They crossed the line with this. And CCP should be ashamed for it since they hosted this scummy crap. |
Prince Kobol
310
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Posted - 2012.03.26 19:12:00 -
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People need to stop talking about whether the guy is really suicidal, it does not matter.
Eve if the whole mail was faked, it doesn't matter.
As far as CCP, their Partners and Investor's are concerned, the second this issue appeared outside of the Eve and started to appear on popular external gaming sites (hopefully it goes no further) it became a "CCP and their players humiliate and mock potentially suicidal player"
You have The Mittani, the newly re-elected Chairman of a Council elected by the players of Eve, a auditorium of players and CCP employees at an official CCP event , all being filmed and broadcast live (now available on youtube and other sites), getting drunk and joking about somebody being suicidal.
On top of that you then have the Mittani encouraging people to contact him.
To many people outside of the Eve community this will just come across as a bunch of drunken idiots at an official gathering encouraging other people to mock and humiliate a person who could be suicidal, and then encouraging others to mock him further.
In a lot of countries you have many people constantly trying to blame computer games for many of societies problems, something like this is pure gold to them.
The last thing CCP, their Partners and Investors want is this type of publicity.
No way you swing it, it looks very very bad |
Blatant Forum Alt
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
70
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Posted - 2012.03.26 19:12:00 -
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RougeOperator wrote:They went to far with this at the panel.
What they did at the panel was no longer a game anymore.
This is rather sickening actually, I waited to see what it was about cause i missed it and finally got around to looking at it.
This is practically criminal conduct.
There are real people behind the accounts we play.
Advocating pushing someone to kill themselves is freaking evil. The its just s joke line doesn't hold up under scrutiny.
I'm very disappointed in everyone that took part in that panel.
They crossed the line with this. And CCP should be ashamed for it since they hosted this scummy crap.
The guy wasnt actually suicidal though, he was just playing the sympathy card. Mocking some butthurt carebear is fine, thats all that happened here. |
oldbutfeelingyoung
511
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Posted - 2012.03.26 19:13:00 -
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Steelshine wrote:Well I guess if you guys don't like the Mittani you should probably just get 11,000 people to vote for someone you agree with
i don,t think the votes Mittens got alts or real accounts matter much now. He lost face ,but the worst part of it CCP and EVE loose face also If the important game media gets hold of this ,they won,t cover a great fanfest but something else
pushing that button ,not expecting something. But suddenly the door opens and the next thing i see myself flooting in space,just before i wake up again. thank god for clones |
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Jessie-A Tassik
Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic
3
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Posted - 2012.03.26 19:14:00 -
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Helicity Boson wrote:Jessie-A Tassik wrote: In fact, if the Goon-vermin go after this guy full force, he might become suicidal as a result of the very very public attack
The appropriate response was to ignore it or attack him in a less public way.
NOTE: Goon-vermin refusal to "talk with" people they can't threaten makes them thugs.
It's not the goons' responsibility to determine if the guy is suicidal, or just a whiner playing the sympathy card.It's a real suicidal person's task to remove themselves from situations that cause anxiety and seek professional help. By your definitions no PVP game should exist because you might make a suicidal person kill themselves. I don't think the display was very tasteful, but I also think nobody here is actually using their heads and using logic to analyse the situation.
So, it's okay to actually attack an actually suicidal person who actually kills himself so long as you weren't 99.99% sure that he was actually suicidal?
Or maybe just because he didn't avoid you so really it's actually HIS FAULT for what you did?
You guys sure come unglued fast when the other side stops being nice, don't you? Sing for me little Goon, sing.
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RougeOperator
Autocannons Anonymous Late Night Alliance
175
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Posted - 2012.03.26 19:15:00 -
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Blatant Forum Alt wrote:RougeOperator wrote:They went to far with this at the panel.
What they did at the panel was no longer a game anymore.
This is rather sickening actually, I waited to see what it was about cause i missed it and finally got around to looking at it.
This is practically criminal conduct.
There are real people behind the accounts we play.
Advocating pushing someone to kill themselves is freaking evil. The its just s joke line doesn't hold up under scrutiny.
I'm very disappointed in everyone that took part in that panel.
They crossed the line with this. And CCP should be ashamed for it since they hosted this scummy crap. The guy wasnt actually suicidal though, he was just playing the sympathy card. Mocking some butthurt carebear is fine, thats all that happened here.
You dont know that. You cant make that claim.
They crossed the line that should not be crossed. This is not a game anymore after what they did on that panel. |
Blatant Forum Alt
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
70
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Posted - 2012.03.26 19:15:00 -
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oldbutfeelingyoung wrote:Steelshine wrote:Well I guess if you guys don't like the Mittani you should probably just get 11,000 people to vote for someone you agree with i don,t think the votes Mittens got alts or real accounts matter much now. He lost face ,but the worst part of it CCP and EVE loose face also If the important game media gets hold of this ,they won,t cover a great fanfest but something else
This is a game that is proud of gankers. Proud of the harsh world that is Eve. This wont really affect them that much - if anything, the subscriber base will increase as the game is brought under the public eye. |
Gossamer DT
Wildly Inappropriate Goonswarm Federation
41
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Posted - 2012.03.26 19:16:00 -
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ILikeMarkets wrote:Gossamer DT wrote:Why do you people always blur the line between the mittani the Goon Alliance leader (note the pannel name in question here); eve pilot and the mittani the CSM chair? just becase you are on the CSM doesn't mean your eve play is dead and no longer allowed. get over your selves all ready TIA. This is far past eve play. This is trying to basically lead to a real death of a real human being for his own personal amusement. What he did would be considered a serious crime in many countries if that person really did take their life after this. He best pray to whatever gods he does or does not believe in that this person doesn't die any time soon, or he will have serious legal problems on his hands.
First and for most, who is your main, and what does he do?
I just can't decide if this is a troll or not, I mean really, how dumb are you? You might want to step out side for a bit, you might find out that oxygen from trees will help with your delutions and the feeling that your are great is only correct at your moms house. who is your main, and what does he do? |
RougeOperator
Autocannons Anonymous Late Night Alliance
175
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Posted - 2012.03.26 19:17:00 -
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oldbutfeelingyoung wrote:Steelshine wrote:Well I guess if you guys don't like the Mittani you should probably just get 11,000 people to vote for someone you agree with i don,t think the votes Mittens got alts or real accounts matter much now. He lost face ,but the worst part of it CCP and EVE loose face also If the important game media gets hold of this ,they won,t cover a great fanfest but something else
Any good feelings that fanfest had were just sunk by what they did.
This took the step past trolling that should not be crossed. |
Livini Naship
Eve Ryuken Spacelane Consortium
7
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Posted - 2012.03.26 19:17:00 -
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dude the problem is that it was on a livestream by ccp, publicly. and thats not correct |
Aileren
Aliastra Gallente Federation
2
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Posted - 2012.03.26 19:17:00 -
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So, actually looking the guy up on the net, by what I can gather, he doesn't seem to be terribly suicidal. And he really likes **** jokes. |
Alpheias
Euphoria Released 0ccupational Hazzard
545
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Posted - 2012.03.26 19:18:00 -
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Blatant Forum Alt wrote:RougeOperator wrote:They went to far with this at the panel.
What they did at the panel was no longer a game anymore.
This is rather sickening actually, I waited to see what it was about cause i missed it and finally got around to looking at it.
This is practically criminal conduct.
There are real people behind the accounts we play.
Advocating pushing someone to kill themselves is freaking evil. The its just s joke line doesn't hold up under scrutiny.
I'm very disappointed in everyone that took part in that panel.
They crossed the line with this. And CCP should be ashamed for it since they hosted this scummy crap. The guy wasnt actually suicidal though, he was just playing the sympathy card. Mocking some butthurt carebear is fine, thats all that happened here.
I'll go one step further than Mittani. Anyone that threatens me with suicide really should commit suicide if the intent is to stick it to my conscience. I might actually sleep better at night, knowing that I was the reason someone irrelevant killed him or herself. I'd kill kittens and puppies and bunnies I'd maim toddlers and teens and then more |
Xython
Merch Industrial Goonswarm Federation
320
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Posted - 2012.03.26 19:19:00 -
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Wow, a very large concentrated mass of YouMad -- the creamy nougat version of Delicious Tears.
Harden Up and Grow a Pair, Little Pubbies! You're playing EVE, not Hello Kitty Online. |
MeBiatch
Republic University Minmatar Republic
202
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Posted - 2012.03.26 19:19:00 -
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yeah its kinda sad that this years fanfest mega thread is not about some nerf or new toy or gameplay change... but its the elected representative of eve playing making a mockery of us...
this is really bad publicity....
i can only hope that mittenz is forced to resign and we get someone respectable as chairman like twostepp...
mebitach. |
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Kaleb Rysode
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
6
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Posted - 2012.03.26 19:20:00 -
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Blatant Forum Alt wrote:oldbutfeelingyoung wrote:Steelshine wrote:Well I guess if you guys don't like the Mittani you should probably just get 11,000 people to vote for someone you agree with i don,t think the votes Mittens got alts or real accounts matter much now. He lost face ,but the worst part of it CCP and EVE loose face also If the important game media gets hold of this ,they won,t cover a great fanfest but something else This is a game that is proud of gankers. Proud of the harsh world that is Eve.
Take it one step farther, and repost something from a site which cannot be named:
"The reality is that the sandbox is amoral. you don't have to like it, but...reality owns." |
Helicity Boson
Immortalis Inc. Shadow Cartel
193
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Posted - 2012.03.26 19:20:00 -
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Jessie-A Tassik wrote:
So, it's okay to actually attack an actually suicidal person who actually kills himself so long as you weren't 99.99% sure that he was actually suicidal?
Or maybe just because he didn't avoid you so really it's actually HIS FAULT for what you did?
You guys sure come unglued fast when the other side stops being nice, don't you? Sing for me little Goon, sing.
It is absolutely 100% ok to do whatever you please to them in this video game, as long as it lies within the parameters of gameplay set forth by CCP.
Their mental condition is in no way your concern, they chose to play the game, this can happen in THIS game, not. your. problem.
Don't try to take my words out of context by cleverly leaving out the fact that we're talking about something that happened in a video game. |
Prince Kobol
316
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Posted - 2012.03.26 19:20:00 -
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Aileren wrote:So, actually looking the guy up on the net, by what I can gather, he doesn't seem to be terribly suicidal. And he really likes **** jokes.
Totally irrelevant now.
When your product is getting headlines like
"CCP investigates player panel that encouraged cyber-bullying"
that is bad no matter how you swing it |
ILikeMarkets
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
74
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Posted - 2012.03.26 19:20:00 -
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Gossamer DT wrote:ILikeMarkets wrote:Gossamer DT wrote:Why do you people always blur the line between the mittani the Goon Alliance leader (note the pannel name in question here); eve pilot and the mittani the CSM chair? just becase you are on the CSM doesn't mean your eve play is dead and no longer allowed. get over your selves all ready TIA. This is far past eve play. This is trying to basically lead to a real death of a real human being for his own personal amusement. What he did would be considered a serious crime in many countries if that person really did take their life after this. He best pray to whatever gods he does or does not believe in that this person doesn't die any time soon, or he will have serious legal problems on his hands. First and for most, who is your main, and what does he do? I just can't decide if this is a troll or not, I mean really, how dumb are you? You might want to step out side for a bit, you might find out that oxygen from trees will help with your delutions and the feeling that your are great is only correct at your moms house.
What part of him saying "Incidentally, if you want to make the guy kill himself, his name is [REMOVED]," do you not seem to understand? Do you understand what cyber-bullying laws entail, including the punishments that come along with them? You don't seem to understand that in the real world there are consequences for your actions, and those consequences can sometimes include legal action. Protect highsec.-áWe are the 66%.
https://p.twimg.com/Ajc6KNBCQAAT9my.png (Source: https://twitter.com/ccp_diagoras ) |
Blatant Forum Alt
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
70
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Posted - 2012.03.26 19:20:00 -
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RougeOperator wrote:Blatant Forum Alt wrote:RougeOperator wrote:They went to far with this at the panel.
What they did at the panel was no longer a game anymore.
This is rather sickening actually, I waited to see what it was about cause i missed it and finally got around to looking at it.
This is practically criminal conduct.
There are real people behind the accounts we play.
Advocating pushing someone to kill themselves is freaking evil. The its just s joke line doesn't hold up under scrutiny.
I'm very disappointed in everyone that took part in that panel.
They crossed the line with this. And CCP should be ashamed for it since they hosted this scummy crap. The guy wasnt actually suicidal though, he was just playing the sympathy card. Mocking some butthurt carebear is fine, thats all that happened here. You dont know that. You cant make that claim. They crossed the line that should not be crossed. This is not a game anymore after what they did on that panel.
What if I was mining, got ganked, was mocked in local and went out immediatly and hung myself? Every time a gank happens, this could potentially happen. Are you saying every ganker was an evil jerk who was trying to get people to kill themselves? Of course not. This is yet another example of players mocking a carebear who, as far as they can reasonably tell, is not suicidal. This happens on an hourly basis, if not more often.
Because no one who is genuinely suicidal plays a computer game, and says 'oh, Im depressed, and suicidal'. Not if they are genuinely suicidal. This guy was just playing the sympathy card, and therefore worthy of being mocked.
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oldbutfeelingyoung
511
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Posted - 2012.03.26 19:20:00 -
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Blatant Forum Alt wrote:oldbutfeelingyoung wrote:Steelshine wrote:Well I guess if you guys don't like the Mittani you should probably just get 11,000 people to vote for someone you agree with i don,t think the votes Mittens got alts or real accounts matter much now. He lost face ,but the worst part of it CCP and EVE loose face also If the important game media gets hold of this ,they won,t cover a great fanfest but something else This is a game that is proud of gankers. Proud of the harsh world that is Eve. This wont really affect them that much - if anything, the subscriber base will increase as the game is brought under the public eye.
I really hope this is the case I didn,t see that alliance keynote hoping to get a link to it. But from what i see on the forums is enough to get me worried I hope this will not escalate to some bigger gamesites
pushing that button ,not expecting something. But suddenly the door opens and the next thing i see myself flooting in space,just before i wake up again. thank god for clones |
Nuela
Beacon Light Corporation Beacon Light Alliance
15
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Posted - 2012.03.26 19:20:00 -
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Oh wow!
I've been looking at this stuff.
Mittani is screwed. CCP is going to crucify him. |
Heimatar Auctioneer
Republic University Minmatar Republic
205
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Posted - 2012.03.26 19:21:00 -
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Mittani the Great's supporters' only "defenses" for Mittani the Great:
"Who is your main?"
"Where did you get your psychology degree?"
"Suicidal people deserve to die. Better for the gene-pool."
"10,084"
"First and for most, who is your main, and what does he do?"
"STFU carebears"
"This is happening only because people hate Goons"
These excuses are getting pathetic and do not explain anything about Mittani's misconduct. |
Karadan Kaarwen
Apple Construction Inc Northern Associates.
0
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Posted - 2012.03.26 19:21:00 -
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So let me get this straight. An Eve playing douche bag full of internet machismo is unable to distinguish the line between a game and reality, and says some really stupid stuff in the heat of the moment. Internet machismo guy is then unable to backtrack lest look weak in front of his equally ridiculous peers, so does the courageous thing by playing it up as 'nothing special'. Cue hordes of sycophants trying their level-best to defend said douche bag's actions using astonishing idiocy as their reasoning tool.
Why am i not surprised?
I have the feeling public attention over this will force CCP's hand and we won't see Mittani in CSM for much longer. That, or CCP actually want another enormous public relations disaster on their hands.
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Singular Structure
X-Factor Productions
1
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Posted - 2012.03.26 19:21:00 -
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This is why I love this game!
Can we vote for Mittens to next CSM already? |
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