You can defend your overlord all you want. I know that anyone who does that is probably bluffing, and this guy is no exception. But even if there is a slight chance of it being true, you can't publicly encourage people to mock him until he commits suicide, even less if you represent a community.

You have to also consider the other players as well who saw this and thought it was pretty messed up, but who aren't vocalizing their opinions on the forums. I urged the ones who Eve mailed me (after seeing my gripe in a few rage posts right after the panel) in-game to contact CCP about it.

It's likely we'll see a response one way or the other from CCP. I also worry that this might put a damper on this year's otherwise awesome fanfest. This is why we can't have nice things

You are wrong. Anybody who threatens suicide over a video game deserves to be mocked.

So in the future anytime somebody gets scammed all they have to do is threaten suicide and CCP will have to cave in to them?

You aren't allowed to do that anymore. Trust me.

Genuinely suicidal people don't go around ablooblooblooing about it all the time and using threats to kill themselves to get there own way. That's sulky spoiled children who do that.

http://community.eveonline.com/pnp/terms.asp

You will report out-of-game issues regarding harassment, such as threatening phone calls or correspondence, to your local law enforcement officials or Internet provider. CCP will not reveal personal information about its subscribers to unauthorized individuals. We are not responsible for actions taken by our subscribers that occur outside the jurisdiction of our game servers or web site.

You are wrong. Anybody who threatens suicide over a video game deserves to be mocked.

I just checked, I'm pretty sure I'm still allowed to press the unsub button...

Or they could continue to ignore it since it's just a handful of crazy people who hate Goons.

Anybody who threatens to commit suicide over a video game deserves to be mocked.

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I couldn't find the link in the original post for this, where can I see the transcript and the video?

You are no longer allowed to incite others to do so.

So in the future anytime somebody gets scammed all they have to do is threaten suicide and CCP will have to cave in to them?

So goonswarm jihaddists are mockworthy?

thanx for clearing that one up

I just checked, I'm pretty sure I'm still allowed to press the unsub button...

You got it all wrong. This has nothing to do with him threatening to kill himself, is about the CSM chairman publicly encouraging people to mock him until he commits suicide.

From what you've written, I take it Karadion is probably an alt of the Mittani?

If your actions goaded someone into doing something then you are at least partially responsible for the outcome. It's not just about someone making poor decisions some people can be influenced by others and in the case of people with mental health issues they're even more vulnerable.

If Mitty would have destroyed that conference room the panel was in CCP would have had to pay to have it fixed. I would say it was in their jurisdiction. It was the eve fanfest, not Mitty's goonfest.

Ok...let me preface this by saying that I'm not a "NPC corp alt", but in fact a new player. Therefore, my opinion doesn't matter. However, I'm going to give it anyway:

1. Whether or not a player is "suicidal" is irrelevant.

2. The rules explicitly state that harassment is not permitted.

3. The Mittani publicly requested people to harass this player in an out-of-game forum (albeit one sanctioned by the game company).

This seems to me to be more like a Charles Manson-esque situation. He's suggesting that people should break the game rules. He's not actually breaking any rules himself, and whether or not people choose to harass this guy is their decision. From a purely logical standpoint, The Mittani has broken no rules.

The real argument here is whether or not having a CSM member suggest that players break game rules "for the lulz" is acceptable conduct. Well, that's subjective. There's no ruleset there. That's something for CCP to decide, not us (or since I'm a noob, I guess it's more for "you" to decide since none of you probably consider me to be part of your little e-Spaceship group).

Personally, I think he should at least apologize for requesting people break the rules by harassing this guy. However, I think removing him from the CSM panel would be a bit illogical as once again, he hasn't actually broken any rules.

What I would suggest is that CCP further codify CSM conduct, and CSM term limits may not be a bad idea. Again, my useless opinion but I'm tossing it out there.

Thank you for ignoring my noob pubbie wall-o-text. Did I use that "pubbie" expression right?

-Ami

No no no. We do not want ANYONE to unsub their accounts. It only requires simple action from CCP: dismissing Mittani the Great from his unwarranted CSM Chairmanship.

No more red carpet treatment for Mittani the Great.

No more operating expenses spent on Mittani the Great's flight and longing expenses to Iceland.

Iceland deserves a better person to set on its soil.

No, it's about how CCP deals with people pretending to be suicidal to avoid having to face consequences of their actions in-game.