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Ladie Harlot
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
2293
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Posted - 2012.03.26 20:27:00 -
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MeBiatch wrote:Andski wrote:MeBiatch wrote:really andski? thats the best you got?
well 8k of those 10g's were buddy program alts... so in reality its 3k peeeps that eveonline would not miss leaving the game...
ahahaha you are so wrong which part the this is the best you got? the fact that 8k were 30 day buddy alts? or that we could care less if every goon in the game unsubbed?
Characters had to be 60 days old to vote. Sorry to ruin your little fantasy with facts.
The artist formerly known as Ladie Scarlet. |
Jonathan Jax
The Hitchhiker's Guide to the ISK
4
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Posted - 2012.03.26 20:27:00 -
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Ladie Harlot wrote:Sasha Azala wrote:Andski wrote:Blinking Duck wrote:FEAR!
I mean seriously, you guys really are shitting bricks! we're not afraid, heh 10,058 angry people can influence outcomes ;p Wonder what the real figure is if you exclude the alts. It doesn't matter. 10,058 paying accounts voted for The Mittani. He got more than twice the number of votes as the second place guy. It's called the Mittani Mandate.
And there are 450,000 paying subscribers... so The Mittani is a very very small fish in the scheme of things. :)
It is rather disappointing though, that such a small fish has caused such a scene for EVE across gaming news sites. |
Anya Klibor
Error-404
10
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Posted - 2012.03.26 20:28:00 -
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The Mittani wrote:You're not a valid subscriber, you're a NPC alt. The opinions of NPC alts don't count for anything.
~10,058~
I'm kind of curious. In the United States, if a lawyer were found to be this insulting towards someone, knowing full well that they were claiming thoughts of suicide and were claiming they'd go through with it, the lawyer would be having a little ol' BAR hearing if it was found out the lawyer acted improperly (i.e., insulting him and pushing him to actually perform the action of taking his own life). I'm rather curious as to how much it will suck for you if your local BAR (or whatever) found out... |
Xython
Merch Industrial
Goonswarm Federation
341
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Posted - 2012.03.26 20:28:00 -
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Kaivar Lancer wrote:Orkasm wrote:
You really are special arn't you, Do you actually lick windows for fun?
You mad because I can walk away from an MMO and you can't?
But you're not walking away, are you? You're saying how much you're going to walk away on the forums.
Two laws:
1. Anyone saying they're going to kill themselves in a bilateral communication medium (forum, phone, etc) is likely not actually suicidal, they are looking for a reaction.
2. Anyone saying they're going to quit an MMORPG is not actually going to quit the MMORPG, they're just looking for a reaction. |
Josef Djugashvilis
The Scope
Gallente Federation
27
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Posted - 2012.03.26 20:28:00 -
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If The Mittani does in fact survive this, should I be impressed by his political/survival skills, or should I be disappointed that CCP failed to deal with the issue properly? |
Lyron-Baktos
Selective Pressure
Rote Kapelle
62
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Posted - 2012.03.26 20:29:00 -
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anyone got a video of of what he said?
On holiday. -áIn some other world.
Where the music of the radio was a labyrinth of sonorous colours.
To a bright centre of absolute convicton. -áWhere the dripping patchouli was more than scent. -á
It was a sun |
Ladie Harlot
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
2293
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Posted - 2012.03.26 20:29:00 -
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Anya Klibor wrote:The Mittani wrote:You're not a valid subscriber, you're a NPC alt. The opinions of NPC alts don't count for anything.
~10,058~ I'm kind of curious. In the United States, if a lawyer were found to be this insulting towards someone, knowing full well that they were claiming thoughts of suicide and were claiming they'd go through with it, the lawyer would be having a little ol' BAR hearing if it was found out the lawyer acted improperly (i.e., insulting him and pushing him to actually perform the action of taking his own life). I'm rather curious as to how much it will suck for you if your local BAR (or whatever) found out...
The Mittani is retired.
The artist formerly known as Ladie Scarlet. |
esc shk
Handelskrieg Industries
Goonswarm Federation
117
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Posted - 2012.03.26 20:29:00 -
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Jonathan Jax wrote:Ladie Harlot wrote:Sasha Azala wrote:Andski wrote:Blinking Duck wrote:FEAR!
I mean seriously, you guys really are shitting bricks! we're not afraid, heh 10,058 angry people can influence outcomes ;p Wonder what the real figure is if you exclude the alts. It doesn't matter. 10,058 paying accounts voted for The Mittani. He got more than twice the number of votes as the second place guy. It's called the Mittani Mandate. And there are 450,000 paying subscribers... so The Mittani is a very very small fish in the scheme of things. :) It is rather disappointing though, that such a small fish has caused such a scene for EVE across gaming news sites.
Did They Vote?
What's that? No they didn't you say?
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FloppieTheBanjoClown
The Skunkworks
1179
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Posted - 2012.03.26 20:29:00 -
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Sigh...I guess I need to actually find a video of these comments so I know what was *really* said.
Genuinely encouraging the harassment of suicidal players is certainly something CCP shouldn't allow. Online communities have saved the lives of suicidal people before, I'd hate for us to become the one that helped end one. But you have to take any such statement with a grain of salt: did Mittens *really* sound like that's what he wanted, or was it obviously a joke?
Sure the whole thing was in poor taste. That's par for the course for a Goon; if they didn't troll and **** off the rest of the universe, they wouldn't be doing their jobs.
It's time to put an end to CCP's war on piracy. Fight your own battles and stop asking CCP to do it for you. |
Ladie Harlot
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
2292
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Posted - 2012.03.26 20:29:00 -
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Josef Djugashvilis wrote:If The Mittani does in fact survive this, should I be impressed by his political/survival skills, or should I be disappointed that CCP failed to deal with the issue properly?
Neither since he didn't do anything wrong.
The artist formerly known as Ladie Scarlet. |
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Xython
Merch Industrial
Goonswarm Federation
341
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Posted - 2012.03.26 20:30:00 -
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Ladie Harlot wrote:Xython wrote:Ladie Harlot wrote:Blinking Duck wrote:Mittani is likely to be banned. Boy are you going to be disappointed. Self perpetuating Delicious Tears. Goons, we have hit the motherload. It's never going to get much better than this
Jita. 180 proof Pubbie Rage. Looking forward to it. |
EnderCapitalG
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
527
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Posted - 2012.03.26 20:30:00 -
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Unforgiven Storm
Eternity INC.
Goonswarm Federation
104
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Posted - 2012.03.26 20:30:00 -
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some more facts just to shut up the people that are putting the CSM in the middle of this discussion
1 . this was a alliance panel, with alliance CEOs and he was there has the GSF ceo not has the CSM chairman
2. by this time mittens wasn't won nothing yet, results were only release the next day, during those 24 hours gap nobody said nothing, the alliance panel was fine and funny.... he wins and a couple of hours later all these threads and letters start to be sent to press...
sad sad losers
PS: all these ops... it is you rivi?
Allow us to change characters of the same account without the need to logout and put the password again. |
Orkasm
Wildly Inappropriate
Goonswarm Federation
60
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Posted - 2012.03.26 20:31:00 -
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esc shk wrote:
Did They Vote?
What's that? No they didn't you say?
Therefore they are irrelevant, just like your argument. |
Xython
Merch Industrial
Goonswarm Federation
341
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Posted - 2012.03.26 20:31:00 -
[885] - Quote
FloppieTheBanjoClown wrote:Sigh...I guess I need to actually find a video of these comments so I know what was *really* said.
Genuinely encouraging the harassment of suicidal players is certainly something CCP shouldn't allow. Online communities have saved the lives of suicidal people before, I'd hate for us to become the one that helped end one. But you have to take any such statement with a grain of salt: did Mittens *really* sound like that's what he wanted, or was it obviously a joke?
Sure the whole thing was in poor taste. That's par for the course for a Goon; if they didn't troll and **** off the rest of the universe, they wouldn't be doing their jobs.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E7Ki91U-mBE&list=HL1332571817&feature=mh_lolz
It's about 1 hour in. Mittani was reading off a bunch of emails he got from people who felt being sold nonexistant titans and getting shot for botting was a problem. |
JamesCLK
Lone Star Exploration
Lone Star Partners
107
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Posted - 2012.03.26 20:31:00 -
[886] - Quote
Xython wrote:Ladie Harlot wrote:Xython wrote:Ladie Harlot wrote:Blinking Duck wrote:Mittani is likely to be banned. Boy are you going to be disappointed. Self perpetuating Delicious Tears. Goons, we have hit the motherload. It's never going to get much better than this Jita. 180 proof Pubbie Rage. Looking forward to it.
Cya at the afterparty on the top of GD. |
Ya34le5Tg
Thunderwaffe
Goonswarm Federation
0
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Posted - 2012.03.26 20:31:00 -
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To: Ya34le5Tg
INBOX
I think Im going to leave eve anyway... cant afford another mack. You broke me. good job.. take care of yourself though, and fly safe.
You should have paid for the green tax certificate Exusbish.
what the ****. Another bill................. I said I was sorry god ******* damn you.
xxxxxxxxxxxxx
From: Eagleye13
To: Ya34le5Tg
INBOX
Eagleye13:
my brother doesnt know how to play i just told him how to deposit ice and go back to the ice field and fire on the ice and if he gets attacked by anyhting release the drones, hes only 8.
Me:
so, your little brother destroyed your space ship while breaking the EULA of the game? Interesting.
Eagleye13:
well gues what i wasnt, and my little brother was playing because i had to go to a fire call.
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From: Asmorh
To: Ya34le5Tg
INBOX
**** off *******...ak ta raz najdem tak ta sejmem ty buzerant vyjebany....i go send email to CCP
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Jojo Jackson
Dead Red Eye
92
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Posted - 2012.03.26 20:31:00 -
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Suicide Counsellor wrote:I see a lot of people advocating for drastic measures here
We need to calm down
Not realy.
I allways see this :"It's just a game".
Well, if someone can't see where "the game" end and "real life problems" begin ... then this guy has a problem.
And as it seams the Mittani crossed this line where he missed :"This is no longer just the game, THIS IS REAL".
Someone with decent sozial competence (or just a bit of brain) must know when to stop. He didn't know when to stop. Now he has to deal with the real world law.
Dude, how stupid to use a fanfest with life videostreams for such calls ...
Why the hell can't I fitt capital repairs or shield booster on an Orca ... it's an CAPITAL ship! |
Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
1258
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Posted - 2012.03.26 20:31:00 -
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Anya Klibor wrote:The Mittani wrote:You're not a valid subscriber, you're a NPC alt. The opinions of NPC alts don't count for anything.
~10,058~ I'm kind of curious. In the United States, if a lawyer were found to be this insulting towards someone, knowing full well that they were claiming thoughts of suicide and were claiming they'd go through with it, the lawyer would be having a little ol' BAR hearing if it was found out the lawyer acted improperly (i.e., insulting him and pushing him to actually perform the action of taking his own life). I'm rather curious as to how much it will suck for you if your local BAR (or whatever) found out...
I'd be interested to see the regulations that control what a lawyer can say while he is on vacation. Link please?
When I check troll in the dictionary, it has a photo shopped picture of you standing somewhere in the vicinity of a point.
Also, I can kill you with my brain. |
RougeOperator
Autocannons Anonymous
Late Night Alliance
183
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Posted - 2012.03.26 20:31:00 -
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FloppieTheBanjoClown wrote:Sigh...I guess I need to actually find a video of these comments so I know what was *really* said.
Genuinely encouraging the harassment of suicidal players is certainly something CCP shouldn't allow. Online communities have saved the lives of suicidal people before, I'd hate for us to become the one that helped end one. But you have to take any such statement with a grain of salt: did Mittens *really* sound like that's what he wanted, or was it obviously a joke?
Sure the whole thing was in poor taste. That's par for the course for a Goon; if they didn't troll and **** off the rest of the universe, they wouldn't be doing their jobs.
the vid stutters and catches at a key moment. |
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Fredfredbug4
Kings of Kill
EVE Animal Control
136
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Posted - 2012.03.26 20:32:00 -
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Saying your going to commit suicide over a game is just asking to get mocked. Some kid killed himself over Runescape before and it generated much lulz over the interwebs. Another killed himself over losing an ipod.
Stupid people kill themselves over stupid things. Anyone threatening to kill themselves over a freaking video game probably wouldn't contribute much to the world anyway. The Mitanni should of trolled the guy by calling the cops and having him put in an asylum. |
Jake Warbird
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
80
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Posted - 2012.03.26 20:32:00 -
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:popcorn: |
MeBiatch
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
202
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Posted - 2012.03.26 20:32:00 -
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Ladie Harlot wrote:MeBiatch wrote:Andski wrote:MeBiatch wrote:really andski? thats the best you got?
well 8k of those 10g's were buddy program alts... so in reality its 3k peeeps that eveonline would not miss leaving the game...
ahahaha you are so wrong which part the this is the best you got? the fact that 8k were 30 day buddy alts? or that we could care less if every goon in the game unsubbed? Characters had to be 60 days old to vote. Sorry to ruin your little fantasy with facts.
actually min votin age is 30days+.... interesting that the buddy program came out right when the CSM elections were anounced...
plus with all the technium income 1.5 trillion isk to ensure mittenz got elected is not that much...
tools will be funny when he gets fired... and all those iskies are waisted!
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Mr Epeen
It's All About Me
1037
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Posted - 2012.03.26 20:32:00 -
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Ladie Harlot wrote:Anya Klibor wrote:The Mittani wrote:You're not a valid subscriber, you're a NPC alt. The opinions of NPC alts don't count for anything.
~10,058~ I'm kind of curious. In the United States, if a lawyer were found to be this insulting towards someone, knowing full well that they were claiming thoughts of suicide and were claiming they'd go through with it, the lawyer would be having a little ol' BAR hearing if it was found out the lawyer acted improperly (i.e., insulting him and pushing him to actually perform the action of taking his own life). I'm rather curious as to how much it will suck for you if your local BAR (or whatever) found out... The Mittani is retired.
LOL retired is how Americans say disbarred ?
Mr Epeen 
Me too!-á I ate one sour, too! |
Glockshna Quant
Versatility Production Corporation' LLC
2
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Posted - 2012.03.26 20:32:00 -
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After watching the actual recording of the alliance panel I have to say, you guys are making a big ******* mountain out of a mole hill.
It's not like he brought THAT evemail and ONLY that evemail for the sole purpose of calling this person out. The guy clearly played the sympathy card. He got juked by the goons repeatedly. Deservedly so. But calling for his 'resignation' isn't warranted or even logical here.
Harden the **** up is all I really can say to this. |
Kimmiy Kimasre
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
8
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Posted - 2012.03.26 20:33:00 -
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Just adding my two-isk worth:
Impeach The Mittani, because his statement was completely unacceptable and will tarnish the entire CSM program so long as he is a part of it.
And yes, inciting harassment for the purpose of causing someone to commit suicide is illegal in many countries, and could open up CCP, a studio with customers all around the world, to legal action in any of those countries. Such laws take harassment literally and seriously. There is no, "it was just a joke," in the real world. |
baltec1
868
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Posted - 2012.03.26 20:33:00 -
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Josef Djugashvilis wrote:If The Mittani does in fact survive this, should I be impressed by his political/survival skills, or should I be disappointed that CCP failed to deal with the issue properly?
Neither. This is nothing more than a campain by angry people bitter about mittani getting on the seat again and bitter at changes being made to the game they see as benefiting goons. If not this then they would have picked some other drunken antic mittens got up to. |
Jade Constantine
Jericho Fraction
The Star Fraction
1424
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Posted - 2012.03.26 20:33:00 -
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Elsebeth Rhiannon wrote:I do not think after eight years of playing anyone can accuse me of not knowing what EVE is about and blahdeblahdeblah. I also have nothing whatsoever against people playing it hard in the game. Hell, I am not above confessing that one of my best memories of EVE are about pirates crying about how unfair it is that we choose to shoot them just because they shoot other people, which is a totally VALID playstyle and who are WE to ruin it for them by unfairly making them explode.  That said, as I have stated elsewhere, I find The Mittani's behavior in this incident completely unacceptable. This is not a case of one player playing it hard with another, this is a case of a chairman of a representative body of the community abusing that position to harass an individual member of said community. I am afraid if The Mittani is allowed to continue in the CSM, I will no longer consider it morally acceptable to give CCP my money. And yea, I am sure the Goonies don't need me to enjoy the game, as the gentleman couple of posts back points out. Do I care? No. If CCP rather makes this game for people who think that the behavior of The Mittani was just fine and acceptable, by all means. Let them; their call.
For what its worth Elsebeth I really hope it doesn't come to you leaving this game. And before any goons do the whole "lol whats one ex rp'er left matter" spiel - the reality is that a player like Elsebeth who helps build a unique and different alliance from most does matter in the grand of scheme of things because it helps define eve as a varied and thriving political landscape rather than a uniform (and abusive) playground full of silly children.
I personally think this issue could be resolved by Mittani making a full and honest apology for bringing the CSM into disrepute and I'd prefer that to seeing 10,000 voters (however misguided they might be) disenfranchised for the foolishness of their representative.
But where I do agree with you Elsebeth is that there is a line of behaviour that shouldn't be crossed in real life and at some point its neccessary to step back and realize behind everything we're all human beings playing a game together and the public mocking of somebody like the evidently vulnerable mining barge guy by the leader and representative of the CSM is simply not on. There is a responsibility one accepts when running for CSM to represent the game in a good light in public spotlight and drunkenly mocking some poor unfortunate on stage at Fanfest is not what the alliance panel is supposed to be about either.
Its crass, its childish, its frankly stupid.
And regardless of partizan internet nerdery I'd like to think that most of the goons are still perceptive enough to realize that it doesn't do the game any good to be seen as a cess pit for inhumane behaviour ooc on stage at the eve convention.
The True Knowledge is that nothing matters that does not matter to you, might does make right and power makes freedom. Jericho Fraction is Recruiting! |
AkJon Ferguson
JC Ferguson and Son Ltd
Ferguson Alliance
107
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Posted - 2012.03.26 20:34:00 -
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Alex's only crime during the Fanfest panel was being not funny.
I don't like him and would have cast my 5 votes against him if CCP had given me that option (but unfortunately, CCP sucks.) Not because he scams, or is an ass, or because I'm butthurt, but because the CSM chair should be someone like Mynxee, who acts professionally and cares about the game, not a narcissistic, aging, trust fund frat boy.
That being said, his behavior was well known before the election. He won an overwhelming victory. This behavior is nothing new and should come as no surprise to anybody. If CCP punishes him now, they're a bunch of hypocrites. |
Aileren
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
6
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Posted - 2012.03.26 20:34:00 -
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Mr Epeen wrote:Ladie Harlot wrote:Anya Klibor wrote:The Mittani wrote:You're not a valid subscriber, you're a NPC alt. The opinions of NPC alts don't count for anything.
~10,058~ I'm kind of curious. In the United States, if a lawyer were found to be this insulting towards someone, knowing full well that they were claiming thoughts of suicide and were claiming they'd go through with it, the lawyer would be having a little ol' BAR hearing if it was found out the lawyer acted improperly (i.e., insulting him and pushing him to actually perform the action of taking his own life). I'm rather curious as to how much it will suck for you if your local BAR (or whatever) found out... The Mittani is retired. LOL retired is how Americans say disbarred ? Mr Epeen
Was the guy his client or something? I'm confused. Was all that actually attorney - client communication? |
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