It's pretty clear that, at the very most, he's going to be stepping down from the chairman position while staying on the CSM

how does that make you feel jade?

I watched the tape. It didnt sound like he was joking.

Its on tape. And I dont have to accuse him of anything, he admitted it.

Why would i be proud of this at all. I shouldnt even have ever had to think about this being a thing I would have to worry about in EvE online. That someone at a live event would tell people to harass someone till they kill themselves.

Thats why its so sick.

And even sicker the people defending and trying to spin it away.

The line in the sand was drawn. Pick a side.

Its on tape. And I dont have to accuse him of anything, he admitted it.

Why would i be proud of this at all. I shouldnt even have ever had to think about this being a thing I would have to worry about in EvE online. That someone at a live event would tell people to harass someone till they kill themselves.

Thats why its so sick.

And even sicker the people defending and trying to spin it away.

The line in the sand was drawn. Pick a side.

No, it's not. Well, not, if I am counted among the idiots (reported for flaming, btw).

I think I'll make a separate post about it, but what I want is an EVE where scamming, baiting, blobbing, ganking, trapping, and using clever tricks is still allowed, where we can have PR wars and gloat on locals about how wonderful players we are, and where there is no guaranteed safety and total opt-out of pvp. I also want an EVE where it is not acceptable behavior to point and laugh when someone is obviously RL upset about losing, to use stage time in a CCP event to humiliate and berate your rivals rather than talk about what you do well, or to flame people on the public forums, and where racist/sexist/homophobic slurs are grounds of immediate warnings and bans.

I do not see those as contradictory. I doubt most of the community does.

You know Im wondering if other countries have had the recent high profile cases and publicity we have in the UK.

Cyberbullying, troll threads, hate websites, facebook sites,abusive tweets, teenage suicide have all been really high profile in the uk the last six months, Hell theres was a primetime BBC program about a radio presenter getting trolled and the legal cases surrounding that case. THe Muamba case, the Facebook troll. I think that publicity may have hardened some peoples attitudes over here but dont know if other countries have had the same kind of cases?

It seems you are. He acknowledged the mistake of making a very tasteless joke.

well said Elsebeth

Except that this is a single sentence not a campain lasting for months/years.

I watched the tape. It didnt sound like he was joking.

Two quick points here:

1) It's a common tactic for bullies to say they were "just kidding" when someone confronts them with their bullying.
2) Alex does not say he was joking in his apology.

well said Elsebeth

I watched the tape. It didnt sound like he was joking.

No, it's not. Well, not, if I am counted among the idiots (reported for flaming, btw).

I think I'll make a separate post about it, but what I want is an EVE where scamming, baiting, blobbing, ganking, trapping, and using clever tricks is still allowed, where we can have PR wars and gloat on locals about how wonderful players we are, and where there is no guaranteed safety and total opt-out of pvp. I also want an EVE where it is not acceptable behavior to point and laugh when someone is obviously RL upset about losing, to use stage time in a CCP event to humiliate and berate your rivals rather than talk about what you do well, or to flame people on the public forums, and where racist/sexist/homophobic slurs are grounds of immediate warnings and bans.

I do not see those as contradictory. I doubt most of the community does.

You are implying that this issue is subjective. To you it didnt sound like a joke, to many other people here it did. If this matter is subjective, which you have implied, then it is not as black and white as you have spent many hours making it out to be. As it is subjective, not black and white, or blue for that matter, lets just wait for CCP to make a decision.

haha
living in denial is a way to escape consequences, but not for long

Speaking of higher brain functions, empathy is a very important one. In fact, it's a big thing we look for in gauging animal intelligence.

Now explain to me again how not caring about other peoples feelings is perfectly normal for a human.

Ok clever dude, did he give a real name? No. Is it any different to 95% of the bad posters on kugu or any of the other eve related public forums say every day? No. Is it any different from the kind of chat that goes off in local chat day in, day out in eve? No.

I'm not condoning his words, it was pretty dumb but take 5 minutes out to think about this, put it in context.

What is wrong with you people?

he did it infront of 10k viewers LIVE on stage ....

if it was done inganme or on kugxxx noone would know, still makes it a bad thing , but theres a german saing wo kein kl+ñger , da kein richter ..

he did it infront of 10k viewers LIVE on stage ....

if it was done inganme or on kugxxx noone would know, still makes it a bad thing , but theres a german saing wo kein kl+ñger , da kein richter ..

acknowledged it then (thus far) has failed to follow through with the promised resignation. Thats largely why people are considering him a heel (IRL).

So if I hang myself because of the poor quality of your posts, YOU are responsible.

I'll keep that in mind and let my insurance company know.