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Lilyanne Johnson
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.03.28 21:42:00 -
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baltec1 wrote:Lilyanne Johnson wrote:to all you people who laugh and love what your fearless leader said while he was drunk off his ass and say it's okay because he was drunk when he said then you're all saying it's okay when one of you is drunk off their butts in real life and gets in a car and plow into innocent civilians and kill them because they were in the wrong place at the wrong time. Ok the level of stupid just hit republican levels.
btw, I know about structure, genius, blame it on auto save draft.  and you must be a democrat, baltec, because you sound like a jackass. I'm an independent and I didn't vote for your man either, you dimwit. laugh it up goonies. i'm glad you confirm it's okay to be a scumbag in eve. you'll get yours in real life. then we'll see who laughs last. 
12/12/12 is coming. FTW |

THE L0CK
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
115
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Posted - 2012.03.28 21:44:00 -
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scooter Kondur wrote:Too little too late. Call of your dogs so my posts don't get insta locked.
As you can clearly see, The Mittani now owns you.
MWUAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA Do you smell what the Lock's cooking? |

Xander Riggs
The Scope Gallente Federation
40
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Posted - 2012.03.28 21:44:00 -
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Lilyanne Johnson wrote:baltec1 wrote:Lilyanne Johnson wrote:to all you people who laugh and love what your fearless leader said while he was drunk off his ass and say it's okay because he was drunk when he said then you're all saying it's okay when one of you is drunk off their butts in real life and gets in a car and plow into innocent civilians and kill them because they were in the wrong place at the wrong time. Ok the level of stupid just hit republican levels. btw, I know about structure, genius, blame it on auto save draft.  and you must be a democrat, baltec, because you sound like a jackass. I'm an independent and I didn't vote for your man either, you dimwit. laugh it up goonies. i'm glad you confirm it's okay to be a scumbag in eve. you'll get yours in real life. then we'll see who laughs last.  12/12/12 is coming. FTW
Hurpa derpa, doo werpa dee herpa doo. "SPAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAACE." |

Stabs McShiv
MINUS4
7
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Posted - 2012.03.28 21:44:00 -
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Prince Kobol wrote:Ranger 1 wrote:
Inciting a riot, yeah I can see that one.
Making racist comments, I honestly didn't think that was illegal anywhere... although I realize freedom of speech is not a universal constant. If someone is stupid enough to make public their lack of intelligence by voicing such rubbish, so be it. They should be prepared for the social backlash... but it being against the law to express your point of view (no matter how uneducated) is a bit much.
Then again, I didin't see the tweets so perhaps there is something more directly damaging involved I am unaware of.
At least I hope so.
He twited "LOL , **** Muamba. HeGÇÖs dead!!! #haha" he then responded to various people who tweeted back in disgust with some pretty vile stuff. Again, he was also blind drunk at the time he was tweeting. Also he was reported to the police by one of the people who had responded to his tweet. He was charged and found guilty of a racially-aggravated public order offence to incite violence and will spend up to 56 days behind bars
U.K has turned into a fascist state that sh*t is some 1985 sh*t way to go poms dropped the ball on that one. |

Xander Riggs
The Scope Gallente Federation
41
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Posted - 2012.03.28 21:46:00 -
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Stabs McShiv wrote:Prince Kobol wrote:Ranger 1 wrote:
Inciting a riot, yeah I can see that one.
Making racist comments, I honestly didn't think that was illegal anywhere... although I realize freedom of speech is not a universal constant. If someone is stupid enough to make public their lack of intelligence by voicing such rubbish, so be it. They should be prepared for the social backlash... but it being against the law to express your point of view (no matter how uneducated) is a bit much.
Then again, I didin't see the tweets so perhaps there is something more directly damaging involved I am unaware of.
At least I hope so.
He twited "LOL , **** Muamba. HeGÇÖs dead!!! #haha" he then responded to various people who tweeted back in disgust with some pretty vile stuff. Again, he was also blind drunk at the time he was tweeting. Also he was reported to the police by one of the people who had responded to his tweet. He was charged and found guilty of a racially-aggravated public order offence to incite violence and will spend up to 56 days behind bars U.K has turned into a fascist state that sh*t is some 1985 sh*t way to go poms dropped the ball on that one.
Agreed. While disgusting, that oversteps the bounds of governmental authority. "SPAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAACE." |

Nylith Empyreal
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
35
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Posted - 2012.03.28 21:48:00 -
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Xander Riggs wrote:Lilyanne Johnson wrote:baltec1 wrote:Lilyanne Johnson wrote:to all you people who laugh and love what your fearless leader said while he was drunk off his ass and say it's okay because he was drunk when he said then you're all saying it's okay when one of you is drunk off their butts in real life and gets in a car and plow into innocent civilians and kill them because they were in the wrong place at the wrong time. Ok the level of stupid just hit republican levels. btw, I know about structure, genius, blame it on auto save draft.  and you must be a democrat, baltec, because you sound like a jackass. I'm an independent and I didn't vote for your man either, you dimwit. laugh it up goonies. i'm glad you confirm it's okay to be a scumbag in eve. you'll get yours in real life. then we'll see who laughs last.  12/12/12 is coming. FTW Hurpa derpa, doo werpa dee herpa doo.
Don't communicate with it, just ignore it. |

Mr Epeen
It's All About Me
1065
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Posted - 2012.03.28 21:51:00 -
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Prince Kobol wrote:Ranger 1 wrote:
Inciting a riot, yeah I can see that one.
Making racist comments, I honestly didn't think that was illegal anywhere... although I realize freedom of speech is not a universal constant. If someone is stupid enough to make public their lack of intelligence by voicing such rubbish, so be it. They should be prepared for the social backlash... but it being against the law to express your point of view (no matter how uneducated) is a bit much.
Then again, I didin't see the tweets so perhaps there is something more directly damaging involved I am unaware of.
At least I hope so.
He twited "LOL , **** Muamba. HeGÇÖs dead!!! #haha" he then responded to various people who tweeted back in disgust with some pretty vile stuff. Again, he was also blind drunk at the time he was tweeting. Also he was reported to the police by one of the people who had responded to his tweet. He was charged and found guilty of a racially-aggravated public order offence to incite violence and will spend up to 56 days behind bars
Me too!-á I ate one sour, too! |

Sasha Azala
Blood and Decay
153
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Posted - 2012.03.28 21:52:00 -
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Xander Riggs wrote:Sasha Azala wrote:Blatant Forum Alt wrote:DelightSucker wrote:Lenrir Andven wrote:https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=88008
There, i think we all should chill now. Despite hes effort to chill ppl whit this, its not enough. he have caused to much damage already to eve and CCP from hes action and he should resign completely and not just as Chair. This is a weak move and means nothing if he stays on the CSM and if CCP allow him they show there true color, and its not pretty. Yes, because obviously CCP should listen to two dozen forum warriors more than the 10k people who voted for mittens. Maybe the answer is to disband the CSM, at least that way we should not end up with this shame again. That is just about the worst idea I've heard in a long time. I do hope you're not being serious.
You could say that I'm starting to lean towards it.
On the one-hand the CSM represents the player base but in reality they don't truly represent the player base as you can see by those not voting. Plus the election method is crap it should be 1 person 1 vote otherwise it's as about money.
On the other hand the CSM could be in a good position to get things done if the right people are elected and that's become a big IF. |

Prince Kobol
437
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Posted - 2012.03.28 21:52:00 -
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Xander Riggs wrote:Stabs McShiv wrote:Prince Kobol wrote:Ranger 1 wrote:
Inciting a riot, yeah I can see that one.
Making racist comments, I honestly didn't think that was illegal anywhere... although I realize freedom of speech is not a universal constant. If someone is stupid enough to make public their lack of intelligence by voicing such rubbish, so be it. They should be prepared for the social backlash... but it being against the law to express your point of view (no matter how uneducated) is a bit much.
Then again, I didin't see the tweets so perhaps there is something more directly damaging involved I am unaware of.
At least I hope so.
He twited "LOL , **** Muamba. HeGÇÖs dead!!! #haha" he then responded to various people who tweeted back in disgust with some pretty vile stuff. Again, he was also blind drunk at the time he was tweeting. Also he was reported to the police by one of the people who had responded to his tweet. He was charged and found guilty of a racially-aggravated public order offence to incite violence and will spend up to 56 days behind bars U.K has turned into a fascist state that sh*t is some 1985 sh*t way to go poms dropped the ball on that one. Agreed. While disgusting, that oversteps the bounds of governmental authority.
You 2 guys have missed the point entirely which. In fact I would go so far to say its because idiots like yourself, the kind moronic ass-holes that we needs these laws.
The laws basically says there is no difference between if you walk up to somebody on the street and scream vile racist crap at them and if you do it on the internet.
Its to stop morons like yourself hiding behind a keyboard because you are even a bigger coward to say it to somebodies face.
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Vanguard One
4th Drake Squadron
0
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Posted - 2012.03.28 21:53:00 -
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Aineko Macx wrote:I have exactly 0 reasons to believe shittens means the apology. It's just a calculated maneuver to reduce the chance of reprisals.
Yep, It's called Damage Control. |
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Ai Shun
450
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Posted - 2012.03.28 21:53:00 -
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Nylith Empyreal wrote:Xander Riggs wrote:Hurpa derpa, doo werpa dee herpa doo. Don't communicate with it, just ignore it.
I didn't know you spoke Tellytubby! What did Xander say? |

scooter Kondur
Pyramid Celestial
21
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Posted - 2012.03.28 21:54:00 -
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THE L0CK wrote:scooter Kondur wrote:Too little too late. Call of your dogs so my posts don't get insta locked. As you can clearly see, The Mittani now owns you. MWUAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
So what now that he owns me he can sick his goons on me to go in for the kill...or would he rather i do that on my own? "Situation" is no Thulsa Doom |

baltec1
934
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Posted - 2012.03.28 21:54:00 -
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Lilyanne Johnson wrote:btw, I know about structure, genius, blame it on auto save draft.  and you must be a democrat, baltec, because you sound like a jackass. I'm an independent and I didn't vote for your man either, you dimwit. laugh it up goonies. i'm glad you confirm it's okay to be a scumbag in eve. you'll get yours in real life. then we'll see who laughs last.  12/12/12 is coming. FTW
Not American. |

James Amril-Kesh
Viziam Amarr Empire
139
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Posted - 2012.03.28 21:54:00 -
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Prince Kobol wrote:The laws basically says there is no difference between if you walk up to somebody on the street and scream vile racist crap at them and if you do it on the internet. Last time I checked neither of these were illegal in my country. Support showing T2 and faction frequency crystal damage in the info window! |

Nylith Empyreal
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
36
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Posted - 2012.03.28 21:55:00 -
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Ai Shun wrote:Nylith Empyreal wrote:Xander Riggs wrote:Hurpa derpa, doo werpa dee herpa doo. Don't communicate with it, just ignore it. I didn't know you spoke Tellytubby! What did Xander say?
I'm afraid it would be mostly censored on these particular forums and it would be impolite to restate them here. |

Prince Kobol
437
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Posted - 2012.03.28 21:56:00 -
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James Amril-Kesh wrote:Prince Kobol wrote:The laws basically says there is no difference between if you walk up to somebody on the street and scream vile racist crap at them and if you do it on the internet. Last time I checked neither of these were illegal in my country.
Which country is that? |

Xander Riggs
The Scope Gallente Federation
43
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Posted - 2012.03.28 21:58:00 -
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Prince Kobol wrote:Xander Riggs wrote:Stabs McShiv wrote:Prince Kobol wrote:[quote=Ranger 1]
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U.K has turned into a fascist state that sh*t is some 1985 sh*t way to go poms dropped the ball on that one. Agreed. While disgusting, that oversteps the bounds of governmental authority. You 2 guys have missed the point entirely. In fact I would go so far to say its because idiots like yourself, the kind moronic ass-holes that we need these laws. The laws basically says there is no difference between if you walk up to somebody on the street and scream vile racist crap at them and if you do it on the internet. Its to stop morons like yourself hiding behind a keyboard because you are even a bigger coward to say it to somebodies face.
Saying those things is not illegal. There are clear criteria that must be met in order to qualify as hate speech; that is why the K-K-K, for instance, can still hold rallies despite being an outright horrible organization for horrible people. I think you need to take a step back from your emotions. After all, where do we draw the line? You just called me a moronic ******* over the internet. "SPAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAACE." |

Geodeath
Fist of God
17
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Posted - 2012.03.28 22:00:00 -
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Is this a redundant thread now? |

Xander Riggs
The Scope Gallente Federation
43
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Posted - 2012.03.28 22:01:00 -
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Sasha Azala wrote:
Maybe the answer is to disband the CSM, at least that way we should not end up with this shame again.
That is just about the worst idea I've heard in a long time. I do hope you're not being serious.[/quote]
You could say that I'm starting to lean towards it.
On the one-hand the CSM represents the player base but in reality they don't truly represent the player base as you can see by those not voting. Plus the election method is crap it should be 1 person 1 vote otherwise it's as about money.
On the other hand the CSM could be in a good position to get things done if the right people are elected and that's become a big IF.[/quote]
The CSM was put in place for a reason, and has done an excellent job of voicing player concerns, so far. They were integral in the company wide shift of focus and reorganization of CCP, and have played a major role in the upcoming Inferno expansion, which so far looks quite promising.
This is while Mittani was in office, mind. "SPAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAACE." |

Ashley SchmidtVonGoldberg
1-800-FUBAR
82
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Posted - 2012.03.28 22:01:00 -
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Geodeath wrote:Is this a redundant thread now?
Never Standing in for Karn Dulake who was banned for saying bad words |
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Skilfer Azizora
Nova Corps Marines Group
0
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Posted - 2012.03.28 22:01:00 -
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Ice Fist wrote:Darius III wrote:I have to question the sincerity of this apology after reading your earlier posts about the incident. ~100058~. You said on twiter you were resigning, was that a troll? I highly doubt you would care one iota if not for the public outcry. You have brought shame and dishonor to CCP, CSm abd the entire Eve community. Do the right thing and step down from CSM. You are the most hypocritcal person on the CSM. Bravo. Go break the NDA over this. Anyway, so far my prediction is true... apology, but not stepping down. Well - done.
I agree completely. There is a level of respect you have for those who serve beside you, both in business as well as war. The votes he received were as real as the ones you (Darius) did. To come on here and publicly say that, regardless as to what you actually think is immature and blatantly uncalled for. If you have a problem talk to him personally, this is just childish. |

Shepard Book
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
26
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Posted - 2012.03.28 22:02:00 -
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Geodeath wrote:Is this a redundant thread now?
Not until CCP decides on BAN. |

Prince Kobol
437
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Posted - 2012.03.28 22:04:00 -
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Xander Riggs wrote:
Saying those things is not illegal. There are clear criteria that must be met in order to qualify as hate speech; that is why the KK, for instance, can still hold rallies despite being an outright horrible organization for horrible people. I think you need to take a step back from your emotions. After all, where do we draw the line? You just called me a moronic ******* over the internet.
If you think calling somebody a moronic ass-hole is the same as some racist vile crap then you have just proved you are in-deed a ass-hole.
Also as far as I am aware in the USA if its a direct attack against an individual, whether verbal or nonverbal, it can be construed as a hate crime and in which case you can be arrested.
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Lt Pizi
Dark-Rising
25
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Posted - 2012.03.28 22:05:00 -
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Ashley SchmidtVonGoldberg wrote:Geodeath wrote:Is this a redundant thread now? Never the party isnt over until CCP sung
CSM are expected to adhere to the EULA/TOS and carry themselves in a manner that sets an example for other players to follow. http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/What_is_the_CSM
CCP:-á the mittani has set an example -áto follow ? |

Magnus Orin
Wildly Inappropriate Goonswarm Federation
146
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Posted - 2012.03.28 22:06:00 -
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Prince Kobol wrote:James Amril-Kesh wrote:Prince Kobol wrote:The laws basically says there is no difference between if you walk up to somebody on the street and scream vile racist crap at them and if you do it on the internet. Last time I checked neither of these were illegal in my country. Which country is that?
All of them. |

Nylith Empyreal
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
36
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Posted - 2012.03.28 22:08:00 -
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The masses call unto Caesar for the verdict of this colosseum match and they will shout and burn the city to the ground until their chosen desire is acknowledged. |

GallowsCalibrator
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
30
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Posted - 2012.03.28 22:09:00 -
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Geodeath wrote:Is this a redundant thread now?
No, it is a thread for posting about Roadhouse again. |

Sasha Azala
Blood and Decay
153
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Posted - 2012.03.28 22:09:00 -
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Xander Riggs wrote: The CSM was put in place for a reason, and has done an excellent job of voicing player concerns, so far. They were integral in the company wide shift of focus and reorganization of CCP, and have played a major role in the upcoming Inferno expansion, which so far looks quite promising.
This is while Mittani was in office, mind.
I know, I played an active part on the forums during the riots, although never took it in-game as prefered not to disrupt those not protesting. The changes you mention however took part whilst I was out of game on the second phase of that protest. |

Vanguard One
4th Drake Squadron
0
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Posted - 2012.03.28 22:11:00 -
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Sverige Pahis wrote:I'm a cop
And this is relevant to us how ?
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Xander Riggs
The Scope Gallente Federation
43
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Posted - 2012.03.28 22:14:00 -
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Prince Kobol wrote:Xander Riggs wrote:
Saying those things is not illegal. There are clear criteria that must be met in order to qualify as hate speech; that is why the KK, for instance, can still hold rallies despite being an outright horrible organization for horrible people. I think you need to take a step back from your emotions. After all, where do we draw the line? You just called me a moronic ******* over the internet.
If you think calling somebody a moronic ass-hole is the same as some racist vile crap then you have just proved you are in-deed a ass-hole. Also as far as I am aware in the USA if its a direct attack against an individual, whether verbal or nonverbal, it can be construed as a hate crime and in which case you can be arrested.
I didn't say it was the same. In fact, I specifically said it was different. The question here is a slippery slope argument dealing with how far into one's life the government can interject itself. It IS a free speech issue, if indirectly.
As for hate speech, a key requirement is that there is the reasonable belief of action. The K-K-K routinely calls for violence, but they are almost never taken seriously because their calls for race-based revolution have no actual physical backing in reality. Saying vile things only crosses the bounds into hate speech when there is a continued, reasonable expectation of harm as a result.
Just do me a favor and don't jump to the conclusion that I am supporting racism, which you seem to have been doing thus far. Again, step back from your emotions and look at the broader picture. Government is not supposed to enforce goodness on its people. An ass-hole is, technically speaking, free to be an ass-hole by the law. "SPAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAACE." |
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