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Steelshine
Wildly Inappropriate Goonswarm Federation
66
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Posted - 2012.03.27 01:40:00 -
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Is it a ren fair or are there just a ton of white knights in this thread? |

Tyrrax Thorrk
Habitual Euthanasia Pandemic Legion
28
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Posted - 2012.03.27 01:40:00 -
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Lolmer wrote:CCP is not a public company and has no shareholders. It has loans, but no public shares to trade on the market to go up or down from any publicity.
I don't remember what date this was but;
Major Shareholders At the date of this Prospectus there were 97 shareholders in CCP. The ten largest shareholders owned a total of 97.9% of the Company's issued share capital. NP ehf 33.99 Teno Investments S.-.R.L 17.21 Reynir Har+¦arson 11.37 Arion safnreikningur 5.60 Matthfas Gu+¦mundsson 3.72 Hilmar Veigar P+¬tursson 2.82 Novator ehf 2.56 Frosti Sigurj+¦nsson 2.44 Fri+¦rik +ūrn Haraldsson 2.42 Gu+¦mundur Kristinsson ehf 2.39 |

Vaerah Vahrokha
Vahrokh Consulting
440
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Posted - 2012.03.27 01:41:00 -
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OfBalance wrote:EnderCapitalG wrote:STAY CALM MIND THE GAP
STEER OFF MY BRA! Auditing | Collateral holding and insurance | Consulting | PLEX for Good Charity
Twitter channel |

RougeOperator
Autocannons Anonymous Late Night Alliance
217
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Posted - 2012.03.27 01:42:00 -
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Pahineh Amelana wrote:Let's be straight, and not over look some important facts.
You made the presentation prior to going to the panel. (your intentions at this point were clear) You spoke @ the panel. (you acted on your intentions prior to the fanfest) Your members backed what you said for several days here on the forums. (further showing that these intentions were/are shared by a larger group of associates)
Now you apologize. For yourself, for your associates, for who? To save face?
Just goes to show how sincere this apology really is.
Bigger people in the real world have apologized and resigned from real positions of power, for much much smaller things. That being said, make the sacrifice to make it sincere. Integrity.
If you had not made it a part of your actual presentation, it could be ran off as a mistake, mis-speaking. If your fellow members didn't stand behind what you said, and pander all over the EVE-O forums like monkeys, it could have again, been ran off as a mistake.
The fact is you made this an actual part of your presentation, then followed through with presenting it, as humor. Then your members, friends, associates, supporters ran all over the EVE-O forums stating their support of your words, for this or that reason, further creating even more problems, divides and ultimately much deeper issues within the eve community.
Apologizing for bumping into someone. acceptable Apologizing for spilling some water on someone on accident. acceptable Apologizing for accidentally hurting someone. acceptable
Apologizing for deliberately trying to cause harm to someone utilizing a video game as your execution platform. Unacceptable. Apologizing for egging others on to cause harm to another via a video game. Unacceptable.
It's called cyber bullying, and like it or not, it's not funny. Even if it's meant in jest. Your words and actions do not just effect the individual you were targeting but an entire community of players. Cause & Effect.
They keep trying to spin the story away from him stepping down.
He needs to be off the CSM and try again next year. |

Daviclond
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
11
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Posted - 2012.03.27 01:42:00 -
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Pahineh Amelana wrote:
It's called cyber bullying, and like it or not, it's not funny. Even if it's meant in jest. Your words and actions do not just effect the individual you were targeting but an entire community of players. Cause & Effect.
Did you miss the part where the victim in question is a 30-something year old guy who doesn't remember the incident and doesn't really care? Post with your titan main you gigantic baby, your precious ship is still getting nerfed. |

Liam Mirren
366
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Posted - 2012.03.27 01:42:00 -
[456] - Quote
Vaerah Vahrokha wrote:OfBalance wrote:EnderCapitalG wrote:STAY CALM MIND THE GAP STEER OFF MY BRA!
FLBP Excellence is not a skill, it's an attitude.
My guides: http://mirren.freeforums.org |

Kridak
Ministry of War Amarr Empire
0
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Posted - 2012.03.27 01:42:00 -
[457] - Quote
Xython wrote:Nambr1 wrote:i don't understand aspie, sorry Let me translate to ******** pubbie dipshit for you then: GOONS AM NOT 10,000 ACCOUNT STRONG OTHER PEOPLE AM VOTE FOR MITTANI MITTANI AM VERY VERY POPLAR1! DEAL WITH IT CRY MORE NOOB
HEY!
[sarcasm] I'm an Aspie and I don't find that offensive! RESIGN! [/sarcasm]
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Mcrager
Legio Geminatus Gentlemen's Agreement
1
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Posted - 2012.03.27 01:42:00 -
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Pahineh Amelana wrote:Let's be straight, and not over look some important facts.
You made the presentation prior to going to the panel. (your intentions at this point were clear) You spoke @ the panel. (you acted on your intentions prior to the fanfest) Your members backed what you said for several days here on the forums. (further showing that these intentions were/are shared by a larger group of associates)
Now you apologize. For yourself, for your associates, for who? To save face?
Just goes to show how sincere this apology really is.
Bigger people in the real world have apologized and resigned from real positions of power, for much much smaller things. That being said, make the sacrifice to make it sincere. Integrity.
If you had not made it a part of your actual presentation, it could be ran off as a mistake, mis-speaking. If your fellow members didn't stand behind what you said, and pander all over the EVE-O forums like monkeys, it could have again, been ran off as a mistake.
The fact is you made this an actual part of your presentation, then followed through with presenting it, as humor. Then your members, friends, associates, supporters ran all over the EVE-O forums stating their support of your words, for this or that reason, further creating even more problems, divides and ultimately much deeper issues within the eve community.
Apologizing for bumping into someone. acceptable Apologizing for spilling some water on someone on accident. acceptable Apologizing for accidentally hurting someone. acceptable
Apologizing for deliberately trying to cause harm to someone utilizing a video game as your execution platform. Unacceptable. Apologizing for egging others on to cause harm to another via a video game. Unacceptable.
It's called cyber bullying, and like it or not, it's not funny. Even if it's meant in jest. Your words and actions do not just effect the individual you were targeting but an entire community of players. Cause & Effect.
Someone in Cod told me to kill myself , can i have a threadnaught now?
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Kitfox Mikakka
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
32
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Posted - 2012.03.27 01:43:00 -
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Every single person in this thread asking for Mittani to step down because they've shamed them and he's not their representative anymore should probably also mention who actually got their votes during the voting period. Because he got 2 from me and I sure don't want to see him resign as either Chairman or a CSM member. |

Demarcus
Killjoy.
5
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Posted - 2012.03.27 01:43:00 -
[460] - Quote
Let me preface the following by saying that, even in "real life" at the Fan Fest I consider all attendees to be "in character". We love EVE, we are EVE that is why people go.
With that said, no apology is good enough in game or out for what you said. You stepped far over the line.
You need to do the right thing and resign your CMS7 position immediately. Your opinions are obviously not representative of the player base. I have a feeling that resigning the position will save face for you, because with the publicity this is getting CCP might find that doing it themselves is the best option. |
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GoodSamaritan
Senex Legio Get Off My Lawn
0
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Posted - 2012.03.27 01:43:00 -
[461] - Quote
EVE: the terrible game where terrible people do terrible things.
Maybe they'll rename the next patch EVE: Incontinence.
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David Carel
Amok. Goonswarm Federation
206
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Posted - 2012.03.27 01:43:00 -
[462] - Quote
Tyrrax Thorrk wrote:Lolmer wrote:CCP is not a public company and has no shareholders. It has loans, but no public shares to trade on the market to go up or down from any publicity. I don't remember what date this was but; Major Shareholders At the date of this Prospectus there were 97 shareholders in CCP. The ten largest shareholders owned a total of 97.9% of the Company's issued share capital. NP ehf 33.99 Teno Investments S.-.R.L 17.21 Reynir Har+¦arson 11.37 Arion safnreikningur 5.60 Matthfas Gu+¦mundsson 3.72 Hilmar Veigar P+¬tursson 2.82 Novator ehf 2.56 Frosti Sigurj+¦nsson 2.44 Fri+¦rik +ūrn Haraldsson 2.42 Gu+¦mundur Kristinsson ehf 2.39
I haven't seen CCP being traded, though. |

Shade Severii
Satan's Escorts MIDGET CHUCKERS
13
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Posted - 2012.03.27 01:44:00 -
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None of the white knights give a **** about the Wis
All they care about is yammering on with there pitchforks held high trying to get Mittani to resign....which he just might.
The Mittani clearly before he got scared didn't give a **** about what he said. He stated in another thread that he remembers clearly saying the guys name and telling people to gank his Mackinaws. So he wasn't THAT drunk.
The Wis is fine, was oblivious to all this **** AND made a joke about suicide
This is what i have learned.
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Eian
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
11
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Posted - 2012.03.27 01:44:00 -
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The Mittani wrote:This has been hanging over my head since Thursday when I stumbled away from the Alliance Panel with a vague sense that I had done something horrible. I didn't know the extent of how much of a shitheel I had been until today, when footage of the presentation went up. As many of you now know, I gave out the in-game character name of a Mackinaw miner if anyone had wanted to blow him up - except that I was so smashed that I didn't recall exactly what I said (as anyone who was there can tell you). When I came to the forums the other day and saw threads complaining about my behavior - not remembering what I'd said - I assumed that I was enduring the usual anti-Goonswarm trolls, and posted something like "deal with it~" in my usual "The Mittani" way.
Then I landed, and saw the article listing my actual quote.
Christ.
I feel absolutely ashamed of my behavior at the Alliance Panel. It's one thing to play a villain in an online roleplaying game - when I post on these forums or on twitter, I usually do so as 'The Mittani', and do my level best to convince everyone that I'm an unrepentant space villain, as that kind of facade provides an in-game advantage to me and my alliance. But I am not that character in real life, as anyone who has met me can attest. I went way, way, /way/ past the line on Thursday night by mocking the Mackinaw miner at a real-life event. I, as a person, am not the entity that I play in EVE; I am not actually a sociopath or a sadist, and I certainly don't want people to kill themselves in real life over an internet spaceship game, no matter what I may say or do within the game itself. CCP may say 'EVE is Real', but EVE is not real - and the line between the game and reality should not be overstepped.
I'm relieved to discover that the Mackinaw miner is doing fine and mining away, despite being blown up by Goonswarm in-game. He deserves, and he has, my heartfelt apologies - here in public as well as a private apology. There's no excuse for what I did - while some might try to use my inebriation as a mitigating factor, I put myself in that compromised mental state, and the guilt of that is entirely mine.
If I could go back in time and not have included the slide mentioning the miner, I would do so. While the Eve Online character "The Mittani" would never apologize for any sort of villany in game, I myself, as Alex Gianturco, feel utterly ashamed and sickened by my behavior.
You peace ****. You come here now and claim you didn't have any ******* clue of.. STOP!
Now your pissing in our face trying to cover your tracks. This post is full BS because the heat got turned up on you.
A child lies to you because he thinks he's smarter than you, then after you tell him you know he's lying he still thinks he's smarter than you and lies to your face again.
You are a waste of space. Real space and EVE space. **** off.
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Tyrrax Thorrk
Habitual Euthanasia Pandemic Legion
28
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Posted - 2012.03.27 01:44:00 -
[465] - Quote
don't know anything about that but it definitely does have shareholders |

Citamarret
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
3
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Posted - 2012.03.27 01:44:00 -
[466] - Quote
the only solution is to let The Wis pod mittens
keep a link to the km at the top of the forums so that he will be Eternally Owned. |

Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
1264
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Posted - 2012.03.27 01:45:00 -
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Bane Necran wrote:Ranger 1 wrote:However, I think it's a bit of a reach to insist that the crime of "Cyber Bullying" has been committed when the victim is completely unaware of it and finds the whole matter a joke. It's like drinking and driving still being bad even if you don't get in an accident. You can't go around making light of suicidal people like that because it just takes once. And even if you do, you should have the sense not to do it where he did. It reflects poorly on CCP, EVE players, and the CSM.
What?
Drinking and driving is an act that in itself is a crime. If no accident occurs and no one is harmed, it is still a crime.
Cyber Bullying is NOT a victimless crime. By it's definition it requires a victim being bullied to be a crime. In this case the person portrayed as the "victim" doesn't give a rats ass about the whole thing, thinks it's a big joke, and came out 10 bil ahead in the game.
Trying to convince someone that they are a victim when they, as a mature adult, firmly and honestly state that they were not victimized is the height of stupidity.
This got exactly what it warranted, and apology for a bad joke at the players expense (even though he wasn't aware of it). When I check troll in the dictionary, it has a photo shopped picture of you standing somewhere in the vicinity of a point.
Also, I can kill you with my brain. |

Kyle Valentine
Aliastra Gallente Federation
4
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Posted - 2012.03.27 01:45:00 -
[468] - Quote
Another solution ! Drink more the next time ! So, you can't talk at all ! |

Xython
Merch Industrial Goonswarm Federation
382
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Posted - 2012.03.27 01:45:00 -
[469] - Quote
Pahineh Amelana wrote:Let's be straight, and not over look some important facts.
You made the presentation prior to going to the panel. (your intentions at this point were clear) You spoke @ the panel. (you acted on your intentions prior to the fanfest) Your members backed what you said for several days here on the forums. (further showing that these intentions were/are shared by a larger group of associates)
Now you apologize. For yourself, for your associates, for who? To save face?
He just got home you moron, or did you think the CSM left Iceland immediately?
The second he got access he tweeted a "oh crap, I ****** up" tweet, this is an extension of that.
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Princess Nana
Hedion University Amarr Empire
14
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Posted - 2012.03.27 01:45:00 -
[470] - Quote
If CCP do not act then for their sake I sincerely hope that Sony do not get wind of the fact that an eve community representative has actively encouraged the harassful persuit of a player in game who has exuded mental problems or vulnerabilities.
I am certain these are not the kind of "gaming ideals" they would encourage as "entertainment" with Eve Online soon being connected to the Playstation Network.
The Line was Crossed. |
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Endeavour Starfleet
749
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Posted - 2012.03.27 01:45:00 -
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Alex, The reason I respect you both in and out of game is because you know when it is time to drop the bullshit and do what is right.
Yes this is my alt. I know you state that you don't take alts seriously. Yet you took the time to be serious with me when I had questions during your CSM 7 candidacy. You could have just told me to **** off but you did not and took my posts seriously. For that you have my thanks.
And I notice you take some positions on topics that frankly seem to disadvantage goons in favor of EVE. You have shown at least to me that you take the good of the game seriously in a sea of people that want to nerf everything that is not them in sight.
We need to move on past this. We still have CCP doing shiny **** while BADLY needed Corp and POS fixes are pushed off to 2013. We don't have time for this **** anymore.
Do your job Alex and ignore the idiots! |

Sisohiv
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
34
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Posted - 2012.03.27 01:46:00 -
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You pulled a Derpy It's cool |

Xython
Merch Industrial Goonswarm Federation
388
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Posted - 2012.03.27 01:46:00 -
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Kyle Valentine wrote:Another solution ! Drink more the next time ! So, you can't talk at all !
I fully support this, although I do not think they'll be allowing drinks next time. |

RougeOperator
Autocannons Anonymous Late Night Alliance
223
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Posted - 2012.03.27 01:47:00 -
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Daviclond wrote:Pahineh Amelana wrote:
It's called cyber bullying, and like it or not, it's not funny. Even if it's meant in jest. Your words and actions do not just effect the individual you were targeting but an entire community of players. Cause & Effect.
Did you miss the part where the victim in question is a 30-something year old guy who doesn't remember the incident and doesn't really care? Post with your titan main you gigantic baby, your precious ship is still getting nerfed.
None of that matters at all to the argument. Its almost irrelevant on the whole.
Mittani was organizing a lynch mob at a panel. Thats whats messed up.
And why he needs to step down from the CSM. |

Vxrasa
The Riot Formation Get Off My Lawn
1
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Posted - 2012.03.27 01:47:00 -
[475] - Quote
What the christ?
I don't care if some depressed miner somewhere in the world did or did not commit suicide, and I fail to see what The Mitanni drunk-spewing words out of his mouth at Fanfest has to do with this man's mental state.
Why is there a thread about this and not a thread about things that actually matter and are terrible, for example, the chaos and violence in The Gaza Strip? |

Captain Trousers
Thunderwaffles Goonswarm Federation
6
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Posted - 2012.03.27 01:47:00 -
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Xenuria wrote:You said some unkind things about me at fanfest as well as on the radio show and after we got off air. You did not tell me to kill myself but you did call me a "***" and made fun of my disability.
You seem to only say sorry when their are consequences should you not say sorry, you let consequences dictate your actions rather than governing yourself with a sense of morality.
Sorry to go off topic here, but your signature says to still vote for you. Just wanted to be sure that was still valid? |

Tanya Powers
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
942
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Posted - 2012.03.27 01:47:00 -
[477] - Quote
Citamarret wrote:the only solution is to let The Wis pod mittens
keep a link to the km at the top of the forums so that he will be Eternally Owned.
All those nerds barking to mittens.
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Demarcus
Killjoy.
9
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Posted - 2012.03.27 01:47:00 -
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Shade Severii wrote:All they care about is yammering on with there pitchforks held high trying to get Mittani to resign....which he just might.
Which he should, sometimes in life you just need to man the F up and do the right thing. |

Jafit
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
74
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Posted - 2012.03.27 01:47:00 -
[479] - Quote
Citamarret wrote:the only solution is to let The Wis pod mittens
keep a link to the km at the top of the forums so that he will be Eternally Owned.
I unironically support this idea. |

Ice Fist
Thunderwaffe Goonswarm Federation
17
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Posted - 2012.03.27 01:48:00 -
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Krutoj wrote:This topic is going sideways, to be chairman or not to be, to be CSM or GSF leader, to be part of the Sandbox or to be morally constrained by the real world. This is a lot of bullshit and knowing Alex for the past year, him being able to separate his role as CSM chairman and his role of the evil Goonswarm empire CEO, and doing a damn good job at it, while representing the views of those that are cursing him right now in this thread. Well aint this just so polliticly correct thing to do eh?
In other news, am stuck waiting for my next flight in Sydney, this thread does provide some mild entertainment, but I must reflect on the things CSM6 must do in the view of the CCP's keynotes at the Fanfest. I think Alex (Mittani) will do the same if you stop this silliness.
Krutoj, at least I know that if Mittens resigns we have guys like you in there keeping half sentient morons like Darius from doing something stupid - oh wait, Darius doesn't do anything but disclose confidential information for Riverini lololol. |
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