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Liang Nuren No Salvation	Posted - 2008.10.16 00:07:00 - [121] Originally by: Idara Epic derail. Funny you should call it a derail when in fact something like this is almost a "railroaded conclusion" of the game "balance" changes that CCP is doing. If I've got to learn a new game all over again, it might as well be one that's fun, has a decent UI, and whose PVE doesn't make me want to crush kittens. -Liang -- Liang Nuren - Eve Forum ***** Extraordinaire Liang/Vanesca - Order/Iron Rock@WAR Liang - Destro/Azazel@WAR www.kwikdeath.org
Liang Nuren No Salvation	Posted - 2008.10.16 00:07:00 - [122] Originally by: Idara Epic derail. Funny you should call it a derail when in fact something like this is almost a "railroaded conclusion" of the game "balance" changes that CCP is doing. If I've got to learn a new game all over again, it might as well be one that's fun, has a decent UI, and whose PVE doesn't make me want to crush kittens. -Liang -- Liang Nuren - Eve Forum ***** Extraordinaire Liang/Vanesca - Order/Iron Rock@WAR Liang - Destro/Azazel@WAR www.kwikdeath.org
AstroPhobic Minmatar	Posted - 2008.10.16 00:11:00 - [123] Originally by: Liang Nuren Originally by: Idara Epic derail. Funny you should call it a derail when in fact something like this is almost a "railroaded conclusion" of the game "balance" changes that CCP is doing. If I've got to learn a new game all over again, it might as well be one that's fun, has a decent UI, and whose PVE doesn't make me want to crush kittens. -Liang I lol'd. I don't have time to try it tonight, however I expect a full report from Branko by tomorrow.
AstroPhobic Minmatar	Posted - 2008.10.16 00:11:00 - [124] Originally by: Liang Nuren Originally by: Idara Epic derail. Funny you should call it a derail when in fact something like this is almost a "railroaded conclusion" of the game "balance" changes that CCP is doing. If I've got to learn a new game all over again, it might as well be one that's fun, has a decent UI, and whose PVE doesn't make me want to crush kittens. -Liang I lol'd. I don't have time to try it tonight, however I expect a full report from Branko by tomorrow.
Nian Banks Minmatar Berserkers of Aesir	Posted - 2008.10.16 00:43:00 - [125] Sadly I couldn't find an appropriate class in WAR that corresponds to the Minmatar race, I tried but no matter where I looked, it seems unlike CCP, Mythic makes sure there ISN'T a bastard read headed step child for them to nerf, beat, nerf, beat, ignore, beat, nerf and down right treat like complete and utter disdain to the point of been insulting to their user base. Basically I had to choose a well balanced race/class that was competent in PvP, sort of takes the skill out of it when your not prenerfed for the heck of it. So if your Chaos and on an Oceanic server and getting thrashed by a Witch Hunter, then HI!
Derek Sigres	Posted - 2008.10.16 01:24:00 - [126] I created a new order alt to play with all the cool kids. Pandarus on the same server as liang and presumably banco shortly.
Cpt Branko Surge.	Posted - 2008.10.16 01:53:00 - [127] So, witch hunter or shadow warrior? Sig removed, inappropriate link. If you would like further details please mail [email protected] ~Saint
Derek Sigres	Posted - 2008.10.16 01:54:00 - [128] Edited by: Derek Sigres on 16/10/2008 01:56:09 They have thier pros and cons. Witch hunter is a bit more difficult to be effective with. They do gobs of damage but you're expected to be at point blank range to do it in. Shadow Warrior on the other hand has incredible reach and is generally useful against anything that you can touch with an arrow. I prefer Witch Hunter myself but I figured I'd give shadow warrior another go anyway.
Corstaad Minmatar Vardr ok Lidskjalv	Posted - 2008.10.16 02:21:00 - [129] I think you have to avoid the mass drama. Of course though any dude thats trained Minny the last year feels like a arse. That arse though can with in a pinch train another great race to battle with!
EFT Warrior	Posted - 2008.10.16 04:53:00 - [130] So this annoying rogue STUNLOCKED me to death seriously for 2 friggin minutes I couldn't do a thing I trinket out of Kidney Shot he blinds me and bandages/recloaked and starts his stunlock all over again WTF BLIZZARD NERF THIS SHTI!!111
goodby4u Valor Inc.	Posted - 2008.10.16 05:29:00 - [131] Wtf does the abaddon go 60 after trimarks?
Gabriel Karade Nulli-Secundus	Posted - 2008.10.16 08:23:00 - [132] Originally by: Liang Nuren Edited by: Liang Nuren on 15/10/2008 21:05:48 Originally by: Traderboz Quote: CCP STOP. GO BACK TO SQUARE ONE AND TRY AGAIN. READ THE MANY SUGGESTIONS THAT WERE OFFERED. LOOK AT SMALL INCREMENTAL CHANGES. I said that when the changes first were announced. I said that a week after, and a week after that. I haven't seen any signs of CCP doing something intelligent to address the problem and scrapping their current plans. I doubt we're going to see that. At this point I don't really care that much, but that's mostly because I've discovered Warhammer. At least at this point, the Warhammer dev's understand their own game, which is more than you can say for the EVE devs and their HG snakes. I do have to say though, a Minmatar BS nerf is exactly what this patch needed to satisfy the lulzfactor. IMO they should also throw a nerf into large artillery, just for good measure. Yeah I'm all but ready to drop 3 30-32M SP Eve characters on the floor between this ****ation Eve is calling a patch and the sheer amount of fun I have in Warhammer**. Order > Dest, btw.. -Liang That good eh? My mates who orginally got me into Eve nearly 5 years ago all reckon it's ace and keep badgering me to join (they all left Eve 1-2 years ago pretty much)... I'm still kind of loyal to Eve, though, if they kill off the Blasterthron thats 73M SP of not-so-much-fun-anymore... -------------- Video - 'War-Machine'
Cornette Gallente Black Screen of Death HUZZAH FEDERATION	Posted - 2008.10.16 11:36:00 - [133] Warhammer Online - I was gonna wait and see how it pans out before I try another online game. Now that CCP seems hellbent to roll out this speed nerf of everything that moves and make the game stale I'm thinking of dropping my 3 EVE accounts and WAR seem to be a nice replacement, it looks fun, fresh and exiting. Did I say that it looks FUN? As for EVE... CCP can probably continue to sucker in new people for a few more years with fluff and pr-bullshit before more people sees through the crap and subscriptions start to take a serious drop, at which time they probably sell the company to EA.
Shinta Kobi Minmatar	Posted - 2008.10.16 13:23:00 - [134] Warhammer = WoW with better PvP, but crappy PvE. WoW = Latest patch changed the game. EVE = Subtle changes that keep the game stumbling along.
Traderboz	Posted - 2008.10.16 13:45:00 - [135] Bastards are hanging me out to dry and rolling order? For shame. Oh well, maybe they'll do cross-server scenarios in the future and I can hunt you squishy archers and witch hunters down.
Derek Sigres	Posted - 2008.10.16 14:54:00 - [136] Originally by: Traderboz Bastards are hanging me out to dry and rolling order? For shame. Oh well, maybe they'll do cross-server scenarios in the future and I can hunt you squishy archers and witch hunters down. Nothing says you can't have an Order alt. I have a desctuction alt on your server.
Omarvelous Caldari Destry's Lounge	Posted - 2008.10.16 15:42:00 - [137] \o/ As a blaster Rokh pilot I'm happy to see the mass reductino, that ship is sooooooooo slllloooooowwwww in turning. Sup brosef! Destry's Lounge is looking for a few good drunks - contact me in game.
Liang Nuren No Salvation	Posted - 2008.10.16 16:40:00 - [138] Originally by: Traderboz Bastards are hanging me out to dry and rolling order? For shame. Oh well, maybe they'll do cross-server scenarios in the future and I can hunt you squishy archers and witch hunters down. You're just jealous of my 20 second queue time... and I look forward to rocking your world. We were running with three shadow warriors last night and were instavolleying all the Destro squishies... :P On vent it sounded like: "Shamuaun, Magus back left" "On it", "Confirm" 3s later: "He's down, Zarbut, orc on the healers" "On it", "Got him" "Snared", "Acid" "Down." ... Destro was getting romped like 500 v 64 on Norden ;-) -Liang -- Liang Nuren - Eve Forum ***** Extraordinaire Liang/Vanesca - Order/Iron Rock@WAR Liang - Destro/Azazel@WAR www.kwikdeath.org
Derek Sigres	Posted - 2008.10.16 17:31:00 - [139] Edited by: Derek Sigres on 16/10/2008 17:33:45 Originally by: Liang Nuren Edited by: Liang Nuren on 16/10/2008 17:01:16 Originally by: Traderboz Bastards are hanging me out to dry and rolling order? For shame. Oh well, maybe they'll do cross-server scenarios in the future and I can hunt you squishy archers and witch hunters down. You're just jealous of my 20 second queue time... and I look forward to rocking your world. We were running with three shadow warriors last night and were instavolleying all the Destro squishies... :P On vent it sounded like: "Shamuaun, Magus back left" "On it", "Confirm" 3s later: "He's down, Zarbut, orc on the healers" "On it", "Got him" "Snared", "Acid" "Down." ... Destro was getting romped like 500 / 64 on Norden ;-) -Liang Ed: We didn't win every time though... when we lost it was usually something like 475 / 500. That said, Warhammer has a tremendous capacity for team playing... and you won't get the everloving hell blobbed out of you which is nice. Eve Fleet Warfare meets WAR RvR. God help the enemies of order. That being said, on the Core servers there isn't much of a problem with the "blob" per se. On the Open RvR server my main is on, any time you set foot into the RvR zone you can rest assured there is a group of Chaos guys 10 levels higher just waiting to come out and crush any hope of doing any good. Luckily, core servers prevent such atorcities by enforcing the level cap. I myself from time to time would run into the Chaos noob zone as a level 16 Witch Hunter and screw with the people innocently trying to run a public quest. It was so unfair the game wouldn't give me experience or reknown even after I killed a dozen level 3's. I think the only way to cap this story is with the trusty .
Lili Lu Purveyors of Uber Research Valuables and Ships	Posted - 2008.10.16 17:59:00 - [140] Looked at Warhammer, yuck. Not for me. Sci Fi > Fantasy I'd rather limp along in brick nerfed falcon jammed phoons, and whine on the forums here about the devs stupidity in adding mass and turning the game into Caldari online. Hope you guys have fun though. If CCP rectifies their mistakes please come back.
Traderboz	Posted - 2008.10.16 22:44:00 - [141] Originally by: Liang Nuren Edited by: Liang Nuren on 16/10/2008 17:01:16 Originally by: Traderboz Bastards are hanging me out to dry and rolling order? For shame. Oh well, maybe they'll do cross-server scenarios in the future and I can hunt you squishy archers and witch hunters down. You're just jealous of my 20 second queue time... and I look forward to rocking your world. We were running with three shadow warriors last night and were instavolleying all the Destro squishies... :P On vent it sounded like: "Shamuaun, Magus back left" "On it", "Confirm" 3s later: "He's down, Zarbut, orc on the healers" "On it", "Got him" "Snared", "Acid" "Down." ... Destro was getting romped like 500 / 64 on Norden ;-) -Liang Ed: We didn't win every time though... when we lost it was usually something like 475 / 500. That said, Warhammer has a tremendous capacity for team playing... and you won't get the everloving hell blobbed out of you which is nice. Yes, I do have queue-envy. T_T The battlegrounds go back and forth though. We win most t3 on my server, except alliance mostly queue for Tor since they all have lame knockbacks and it is filled with lava, haha. Still, with good teams, I've shut out alliance on Tor 500-0 where they didn't even kill one of us, hehe. If and when they nerf bright wizards damage a bit (the Amarr of the game) and buff Magus (the tempest), it'll definitely be a tough sell for me to roll Order. And let's face it. My Marauder definitely looks cooler.
Derek Sigres	Posted - 2008.10.16 22:59:00 - [142] Originally by: Traderboz Yes, I do have queue-envy. T_T The battlegrounds go back and forth though. We win most t3 on my server, except alliance mostly queue for Tor since they all have lame knockbacks and it is filled with lava, haha. Still, with good teams, I've shut out alliance on Tor 500-0 where they didn't even kill one of us, hehe. If and when they nerf bright wizards damage a bit (the Amarr of the game) and buff Magus (the tempest), it'll definitely be a tough sell for me to roll Order. And let's face it. My Marauder definitely looks cooler. The knockback attacks are one of the most awesomely overpowered things in gaming. I mean, sure they don't really do any damage and most people don't bother getting to a good angle before using them but that doesn't limit their potential. Even on Nordenwatch, where there's nothing around that's going to hurt you, if you simply take a step to the side and THEN knock the offending marauder/witch elf/Chosen off the cliff into the sea it takes them out of the fight for several minutes while they desperately try to find the 3 foot wide section of beach you can actually walk up. On the subject of looks though, the Marauder is a fary cry from the Chosen in my book. When you see a reasonably high level chosen wandering about radiating evil you get the definite feeling that they're badass. All a marauder has is an arm that becomes a sword. And I think the Witch Hunter looks pretty sweet in an "evil puritan" sort of way.
Traderboz	Posted - 2008.10.16 23:47:00 - [143] Early on we look a bit lame, but later we look pretty mean. Sort of a barbarian look to the class with the mix of horned/spikey helm and shoulders, and the rest leather, all riding you down on our mutated black horse. Check the concept art, there's more going on than the arm, hehe.
AstroPhobic Minmatar	Posted - 2008.10.17 00:06:00 - [144] Sounds so cool... but 50 bucks PLUS subscription fees is kind of lame tbh. I need a job
Liang Nuren No Salvation	Posted - 2008.10.17 02:03:00 - [145] Originally by: AstroPhobic Sounds so cool... but 50 bucks PLUS subscription fees is kind of lame tbh. I need a job Software developer by chance? -Liang -- Liang Nuren - Eve Forum ***** Extraordinaire Liang/Vanesca - Order/Iron Rock@WAR Liang - Destro/Azazel@WAR www.kwikdeath.org
AstroPhobic Minmatar	Posted - 2008.10.17 02:08:00 - [146] Originally by: Liang Nuren Originally by: AstroPhobic Sounds so cool... but 50 bucks PLUS subscription fees is kind of lame tbh. I need a job Software developer by chance? -Liang Negative. I was thinking more of working the counter at a local coffee shop or bagging groceries
Liang Nuren No Salvation	Posted - 2008.10.17 02:10:00 - [147] Originally by: AstroPhobic Negative. I was thinking more of working the counter at a local coffee shop or bagging groceries Ah. Well, in that case... can't help you much unless you live near me. ;-) -Liang -- Liang Nuren - Eve Forum ***** Extraordinaire Liang/Vanesca - Order/Iron Rock@WAR Liang - Destro/Azazel@WAR www.kwikdeath.org
Derek Sigres	Posted - 2008.10.17 03:25:00 - [148] Originally by: AstroPhobic Sounds so cool... but 50 bucks PLUS subscription fees is kind of lame tbh. I need a job While it it somewhat lame in comparison to the great deals of Eve (or WoW I suppose), it's basically the standard for MMO releases these days. It should be noted that your fifty bucks does pay for the first month. I have no idea what it costs per month.
Cpt Branko Surge.	Posted - 2008.10.17 03:39:00 - [149] It's quite awesome, really, but I can't play on US servers where you ****ers are, it appears. Also, Astro, you really want to try it out, loads of fun. Sig removed, inappropriate link. If you would like further details please mail [email protected] ~Saint
Jordan Musgrat H A V O C Triumvirate.	Posted - 2008.10.17 07:35:00 - [150] Started a thread related to this, I know I'm pimping myself out but whatever. Take a look if you don't like the current changes... http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=899552 ----------- Primary is family values, secondary is 0.0...

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