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Salmack
Shiva
Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2009.01.15 17:34:00 -
[61]
 Originally by: Mikal Drey
so during the AP phase of the dock the supercap can be targetted, bumped, bubbled, etc. . if not then you still have the same problem as it only takes a click to activate a DD.
While the auto pilot is docking or undocking you would be untargetable. Much the same way you are when you undock from any station. For a few second or until you take control of your ship you can not be targeted. However with this I do not think that you should have the ablility to do anything with your ship until the docking or undocking cycle is compleated.
So if your attacking a station and it has a Titan docked you would see it undocking and have time to do react. You can wait for it to undock and attack it. Or run away knowing he could DD when he is done undocking. So in my eyes its not a problem if you wait around for him to DD so be it. Not like he can wait safe docked and then instantly undock and DD. There would be time involved. And just like any other ship I do not see a problem with him docking while not aggressed and being attacked.
Originally by: Mikal Drey
Can it redock or does the cycle need to complete then restart ?
Once undock or dock is hit there is nothing you can do until the cycle is compleated.
Originally by: Mikal Drey
you would need to find the balance between undocking in AP mode and actually having control of the ship. if you undock and have no control until the cycle ends then your a sitting duck and are a wreck waiting to happen. if you undock and are able to fire back, assign drones etc ten you would be able to undock then DD then before the bright light clears then you would be in the docking cycle again.
You wuld not be a sitting duck as you are being undocked via auto pilot. Because just like any other ship undocking your not targetable until your cycle is compleat or you take control of your ship. In this case you would not have the ability to do anything until the cycle is compleate, so no one can do anything to you until the cycle ends.
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Salmack
Shiva
Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2009.01.15 17:38:00 -
[62]
Originally by: Delc
Why not just make a structure for the pos. Docking ring with an Entership passcode to access it / board. So if the pos is destroyed you must destroy the ring to freely board the ships. But when reinforced they have time to board there ships and escape.
My opinion is that POSs are not large enough and with all the ballance issues with them they are not secure enough for this. Also these ships are many more times the price of a POS.
Perhaps if they make some good changes to POSs it would be an option but atm I think that Concorable stations are better suited for this. |
Roozu Valentine
Gallente
University of Caille
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Posted - 2009.01.15 18:59:00 -
[63]
/signed |
Somal Thunder
Intergalactic Peace Organization
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Posted - 2009.01.15 22:05:00 -
[64]
/signed |
Aranee K'thai
Amarr
Royal K'Thai University
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Posted - 2009.01.16 09:40:00 -
[65]
/signed
I to have two pilots that are sentenced to life (Titan & MS) to live in a supercap. I welcome this idea
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Mioelnir
Minmatar
Meltd0wn
Imperial Republic Of the North
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Posted - 2009.01.16 10:22:00 -
[66]
Originally by: Camilo Cienfuegos
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The 'Docking Ring' service would be shootable like any other service, and once incapacitated, you couldn't dock/undock your supercap.
And any docked caps would float off away from the station as if they'd just been undocked?
/signed either way, but damn that'd make raiding other people's outposts to shoot down modules fun - steal yourself some supercaps! 
I think that would be a bit over the top. It would only mean noone would use it.
But a docked supercap shouldn't be like any other docked ship either.
An incapped docking ring would mean simply no undocking or docking of supercaps. They'd be stuck.
So my expansion of Salmak's idea would basically go like this:
- Incap Docking Ring while supercaps are docked.
- Take over the station (while keeping the docking ring incapped)
- Vote for forced release of the supercaps (while keeping the docking ring incapped, i.e. you as station owners need to shoot it and the former owners need to rep it)
- Collect supercapital spoils
It wouldn't bee easy to pull off, I admit that. But I think given the possible reward, it shouldn't be. |
Lagsta
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Posted - 2009.01.17 09:26:00 -
[67]
/Signed |
Salmack
Shiva
Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2009.02.17 19:49:00 -
[68]
Come on CCP how about some love. Could you atlease discuss this with us
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Alexander Vallen
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Posted - 2009.03.03 03:41:00 -
[69]
This topic needs a healthy bump to keep it alive alongside the POS discussion.
The Dead Horse & The Modular POS
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cpu939
Gallente
OffBeat Creations
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Posted - 2009.03.03 04:25:00 -
[70]
ok where to start this is one of the best ideas i have read in a long time it means that if some one is crazy to leave there super cap for weeks on end at a station then it could be lost it would also mean that the pilots of these super caps could upgrade there clones get noe mods/skill books ect ect....
i for one hope ccp brings this in.
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Valegresch
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Posted - 2009.03.03 07:46:00 -
[71]
/signed
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Mafaka
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Posted - 2009.03.04 06:03:00 -
[72]
no way - no docking for super caps
that will be like docking a skysc****r to a 5 store building
and besides all that u mentioned above - there is already an option to eject and leave it at pos
everything else is just your own problem - deal with it as u do now
this ship not designed to be convenient fly-arround dock-undock ship for personal satisfaction
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203
Gallente
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Posted - 2009.03.04 06:44:00 -
[73]
Originally by: Mafaka
no way - no docking for super caps
Stop being an Ass just because noone wants to play with you.
All I say is that it could still be targetable while docked Outside a Station.
They are to large for the Bays, so they need to attach at the Hull of a Station - pretty much like it works in X¦...
It's all fun and Games 'till someone's broke :)
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Dadder
Quantum Revolutions
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Posted - 2009.03.04 08:11:00 -
[74]
Awesome idea!
/signed
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Alexander Vallen
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Posted - 2009.04.17 01:45:00 -
[75]
Support the docking Ring as part of the Dead Horse POS concept. Let's keep it alive.
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Iamien
Caldari
Stargate SG-1
Sev3rance
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Posted - 2009.04.17 02:06:00 -
[76]
hmm. A docking ring should be its own independent structure that gets put up at another planet that is in the same system. Sov 3 required. Outpost required, max one per system.
It would use similar mechanics to being built as an outpost does and cost around 10-15 bil to construct.
For added difficulty you could make it so each race has its own type of docking ring and each ring can only hold ~5 supercaps of that race of the ring.
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Vxrasa
Caldari
Smegnet Incorporated
Paxton Federation
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Posted - 2009.04.17 02:10:00 -
[77]
/signed
And I agree that docking in anything other than a sov 4 system would be very dangerous, perhaps could make it so that docking can only occur at a station with sov 4. Would fit with the whole idea of a "Constellation Capital" imo.
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Iamien
Caldari
Stargate SG-1
Sev3rance
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Posted - 2009.04.17 02:22:00 -
[78]
I don't agree that they should only be dockable in sov4 systems. I do agree with them being in sov3 or higher systems in which the alliance has constellation sovereignty and has an outpost.
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James Malice
Gallente
Legion Of Mad Cats
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Posted - 2009.04.17 02:34:00 -
[79]
I can't support this. supercaps were designed to be a very very long term investment. They were designed from conception to be undockable, and were given boosts and benefits to pay for that undockability. You already have a way to keep them safeish, but they should never be as safe as you're proposing.
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Zeoliter
Reikoku Reloaded
KenZoku
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Posted - 2009.04.17 15:39:00 -
[80]
Moms need a bigger boost than this. It's a ship without a role. Everywhere you go you basically have a huge bullseye painted on you. Moms need more resists, or HP and more bonus to remote reps and normal dictor bubbles shouldn't affect them. That would be a start to the balance. I'd like to see fleets of spider-tanking moms battling fleets of dreads.
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Kwa Zulu
Minmatar
The Graduates
Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2009.04.17 15:48:00 -
[81]
I like this idea, nice thought
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Iron Haynes
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Posted - 2009.04.23 16:15:00 -
[82]
/signed.
Maybe they could make the docking ring like a shipyard with ship assembly arrays, with different size bays for different size ships. The ships could dock in the bays, get refitted, refueled (jump drives/siege modules), reloaded, and repaired, but then the ships would be towed to a mooring spot just near the ring that would function like a supercap parking lot. The ships would be lockable and destroyable, but would be "Moored" to a beacon type thing that would act as a low or mid-grade siege module, boosting resists and recharge rates. The docking/anchoring zone would have weapons to defend against attack, but would eventually be overwhelmed and destroyed, unless the pilots could get back in their ships and join the fight. It could require Constellation Capital to be anchored, and would function like a supercap-only station. Pilots could come in, dock, get repaired/refueled/rearmed, etc., then they'd be towed to the anchoring spot and could go to a nearby station and get their other ship. That's my thought on this. Tell me what you think.
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Salmack
Dynaverse Corporation
Vertigo Coalition
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Posted - 2009.05.20 14:00:00 -
[83]
Reply to Iron Haynes
This is kind of what I have asked for but your version is odd.
1. Different Size Ships?
We are talking Supercaps ONLY. At this time there are only 2 types/sizes
2. Your Mooring yard would allow the caps to be killed without the pilot knowing this and very quickly. :( Bad Idea! I do not understand your mid-grade mooring siege. What recharge rates are you going to boost? There would need to be a pilot in the ship to activate the module.
Other wise its the same concept I have talked about.
You need to remember that these ships cost billions to trillions depending on the modules fit. It took the pilots years of spec training to get into them and able to use ALL there features/abilities. Why would you want to allow them to be distroyed without a pilot in them? We cant come kill your prize ships hidden in your hanger, so why should anyone be allowed to kill ours?
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Markus Reese
Caldari
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Posted - 2009.07.15 01:15:00 -
[84]
Was going to post this, but searched and found, so a bump and sign for supercap mooring for stations/poses. If pilots could safely lock their supercap at a POS, I am sure moms and titans would become alot more prominent. The inability to ever use a different ship without fear of theft is why I am not training for Moms.
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Uronksur Suth
Sankkasen Mining Conglomerate
Libertas Fidelitas
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Posted - 2009.07.15 01:17:00 -
[85]
/signed
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Mavrk
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Posted - 2009.07.15 06:10:00 -
[86]
screw it, sounds good.
/John Han****ed
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Wounded Fighter
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Posted - 2009.07.15 08:42:00 -
[87]
2 things for this.
A. What would happen when the pilot logs off while "Docked"?
B. What would be the side effects of this, if it were to happen, to highsec docking desyncs?
Imagine the epic amounts of ships "Docked" in Jita. lol
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Flapkonijn
Caldari
EXPLORERS ELITE
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Posted - 2009.07.15 11:43:00 -
[88]
/not signed.
Choice to use super cap is choice to never land.
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McEivalley
Fallen Angel's
Blade.
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Posted - 2009.07.15 12:34:00 -
[89]
/thumbs down
Super-caps are uber as it is. Allowing them to dock would flood the game with moms and titans (as in, even more than it is now). Having a super-cap in your corp/alliance should be a team effort and allowing it to dock would only preserve the "team" part - no effort.
Not throwing the baby with the water - if it would be possible to target and shoot them on outposts while they're moored (including having it in a sort of siege mode, with a fantastic amount of resistance and hps on its shield - but no lockdown like in RF) then I might've supported the idea.
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LUH 3472
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Posted - 2009.07.15 12:47:00 -
[90]
Edited by: LUH 3472 on 15/07/2009 12:56:35
i have a better idea: make stations bigger because they are to small for some shiptypes even tho they can dock 
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capitals should remain only dockable in the caital shiphangar maintenance thing at the pos
just make it lockable with a personal password like secure container
how about that???
otherwise it is to uber
or be more creative let them moor(?) at the pos tower directly or have a new structure for supercapital docking with refreshing facilities also useable for smaller shiptypes but under all circumstance please let it be at a pos
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