Originally by: Destination SkillQueue

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Access denied . Is it because I'm hideous?

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Originally by: dojocan81

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i cannot find any Black Ops changes !!

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Originally by: dojocan81

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i cannot find any Black Ops changes !!

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Turrets will only do damage when within the maximum allowed optimal and falloff range.

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Originally by: Doonoo Boonoo

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I don't see anything about the selling of GTCs on the market.

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The following implants have been moved to slot 6:

* Shaqil's speed enhancer

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All missile types have been balanced to ensure that oversized missiles do not have too much of an effect on smaller ships. As before, ships are still protected from larger missiles by their signature radius. When going sufficiently fast, the damage taken from missiles is reduced by the signature radius to speed ratio, rather than just speed. Going faster or reducing the signature radius will reduce missile damage further. For a ship with the same signature radius as the missile's explosion radius, the missile's explosion velocity indicates the speed at which the missile damage starts to get reduced. The new formula allows for speed tanking using afterburners. In fact, afterburners will in general be more effective than micro warp drive for speed tanking missiles.

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The micro warp drive is now vulnerable to warp scramblers (the 7.5km version). If you get scrambled your MWD will immediately end its cycle. You won't be able to activate it until you're out of warp scramble range, and the reactivation timer has expired. In addition, all MWD's now give you a 500% speed boost, regardless of meta level.

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Originally by: dojocan81

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i cannot find any Black Ops changes !!

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The docking radius of the Minmatar Research station has been adjusted to prevent ships being forced out of docking range immediately when undocking.

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Originally by: CCP Oveur

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Just donæt forget the reach-around.

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Originally by: Haradgrim

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erm...what happened to the black ops/SB changes?

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Originally by: Arkady Sadik

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The docking radius of the Minmatar Research station has been adjusted to prevent ships being forced out of docking range immediately when undocking.

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After tests on SiSi, it appears still impossible to get your ship to stop within dock range (same as for the very similar "Minmatar Station"). What was the exact intention for this change?

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Maximum top speed has been reduced across the board along with changes to how micro warp drives operate
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Changes have been made to all Frigates, Interceptors, Stealth Bombers, Destroyers, Cruisers, Battlecruisers and Battleships regarding base speed and micro warp drive speed. Rookie, Industrial, Capital and shuttle class ships remain unaffected.

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Originally by: Grath Telkin

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Originally by: Arkady Sadik

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The docking radius of the Minmatar Research station has been adjusted to prevent ships being forced out of docking range immediately when undocking.

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After tests on SiSi, it appears still impossible to get your ship to stop within dock range (same as for the very similar "Minmatar Station"). What was the exact intention for this change?

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Awesome, docking games are stupid, imo, they should all spit you out, outside of docking range.

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Originally by: Estel Arador

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"Jaguar bonuses have been clarified, and resistance bonuses have been removed."

Can anyone tell me how/what/why this is?
(I'm sure there's a good reason, it's just that this comes out of the blue for me.)

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Originally by: Caiman Graystock

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So nothing will be changed about the ANYTHING since its announcement? None of the suggestions or feedback have been taken into account?

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Originally by: Estel Arador

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"Jaguar bonuses have been clarified, and resistance bonuses have been removed."

Can anyone tell me how/what/why this is?

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Originally by: Needa3

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great job ccp, turning Eve into an blobfest infested, carebear loving game in which absolute n00bish gameplay is promoted and the only tactics will be: the bigger blob, the better

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Originally by: Wrayeth

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Edited by: Wrayeth on 08/11/2008 13:54:30
I still can't believe this is being released as-is. This patch is going to make solo PvP pretty much impossible except in a frigate, discourage small gang play, and make battleships irrelevant except in blobs. With all of the people who've been pointing out the problems in the upcoming changes, one would have thought they'd be tweaked before release. Instead, it's being pushed out as fast as possible in some sort of lame attempt to compete with WoW's next expansion.

The only people I've run into who truly like the changes are frigate pilots and people who enjoy no-skill blobbing.

EDIT: I had been looking forward to the speed nerf to restore my love for the game. Instead, I'm taking a serious look at cancelling my account. GG, CCP.

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Originally by: ForgeTrader

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Looking at the changes in SiS on missiles.

NPC battleships can speed tank cruise missiles!

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Originally by: CCP Nozh | Speed Rebalanced Dev blog 7/25/08

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Mmm, beard

Yes flock, the dev giveth and the dev taketh. And surely, many will lament that he is heavy on the taketh this time around. But let us not succumb to exclamations and ôI quitÆ threatsö just yet. These changes are of many dimensions, and even though there are few actual statistical boosts, each perceived nerf levels the playing field in such a manner where overall variety and inventive gameplay is being boosted. The battles will hopefully once again teem with ships of all sizes and makes, giving added weight to strategy and tactics (our very favourites).

We are fully aware that such complex changes can have unforeseen results, especially since such an agglomeration of them is difficult to test without the participation of a large number of players. Thus, we urge you to log onto Singularity (our test server) this Monday, July 28TH to give them a spin and spare us no feedback or thoughts on these issues. We're allocating a long time (a month or more) to oversee the changes because we are open to further tweaks, based on your suggestions.


-Nozh, bringing balance to the galaxy

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Originally by: Innaara

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Obvious conclusion reading the nerfs:

- CCP wants to attract new players by giving them a chance to survive in 0,0. Eve is not like WoW where you not lose anything after being killed.
- When new players have a chance in 0,0, so will Chinese isk farmers.

Gameplay wise:

- By nerfing like this, targets can almost always get back to gates.
- Minni boats are next to useless (Vaga, rapier) while other races are intact.
- Blobs will emerge
- Small roaming gangs will not survive
- Sniping HACS can be an option but HACS will not be used much anymore.
- No more roaming fun. We should all join GBC or the NC so we can see the stackless bla bla crap that does not work.

CCP is a company that is all for the buck. New players that can go into 0,0 with limited amount of SP and will stay a bit longer in the game (that's CCP's aim; More money). Although CCP will not listen to me or anyone else, we will see how this turns out. CCP is not the only player in the market for a Space MMO.

As for the new content: Lame.

You really want something for the press so you won't be completely in the shadow of Wrath of the Linch king eh?

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Originally by: Gaelenus

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what the hell ccp still nothing about blasters? you seem intent on breaking them, seriously what happened to the

Attention! The modifications discussed below are all subject to change, based on player input and testing experience.


that was in yellow writing at the top of the dev blog on speed rebalance huh?
Well you got your feedback a 33 page thread on do something about blasters and a 70 page thread on scrap the nerf altogether and yet you pay noo attention. WHat can you honestly say youve changed about the nerf based on player feedback?
It remains to be seen for me at least how badly you've nerfed gallente ships but as somone whose invested time and skills on them and who quite liked playing them i wont be happy (as i'm sure a lot of other people will be) if that all goes out the window.

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Originally by: Leyline777

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Originally by: Innaara

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Obvious conclusion reading the nerfs:

- CCP wants to attract new players by giving them a chance to survive in 0,0. Eve is not like WoW where you not lose anything after being killed.
- When new players have a chance in 0,0, so will Chinese isk farmers.

Gameplay wise:

- By nerfing like this, targets can almost always get back to gates.
- Minni boats are next to useless (Vaga, rapier) while other races are intact.
- Blobs will emerge
- Small roaming gangs will not survive
- Sniping HACS can be an option but HACS will not be used much anymore.
- No more roaming fun. We should all join GBC or the NC so we can see the stackless bla bla crap that does not work.

CCP is a company that is all for the buck. New players that can go into 0,0 with limited amount of SP and will stay a bit longer in the game (that's CCP's aim; More money). Although CCP will not listen to me or anyone else, we will see how this turns out. CCP is not the only player in the market for a Space MMO.

As for the new content: Lame.

You really want something for the press so you won't be completely in the shadow of Wrath of the Linch king eh?

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key issue WoW is now becoming better than Eve due to ignoring player issues and test results... at least Blizzard isnt cheap on customer service. They value your money and addiction :P. I had quit WoW cause of the perks of eve... due to the fact that soloing (minus either luck or frigates) and gatecamping are going the way of the dinos i cancelled my account and will be going to warhammer online ;) Hope you get fired Nohz.

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Originally by: ForgeTrader

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All missile types have been balanced to ensure that oversized missiles do not have too much of an effect on smaller ships. As before, ships are still protected from larger missiles by their signature radius. When going sufficiently fast, the damage taken from missiles is reduced by the signature radius to speed ratio, rather than just speed. Going faster or reducing the signature radius will reduce missile damage further. For a ship with the same signature radius as the missile's explosion radius, the missile's explosion velocity indicates the speed at which the missile damage starts to get reduced. The new formula allows for speed tanking using afterburners. In fact, afterburners will in general be more effective than micro warp drive for speed tanking missiles.

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Looking at the changes in SiS on missiles.

NPC battleships can speed tank cruise missiles!

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Originally by: Mara Kell

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"Rocket, assault missile and torpedo javelin missiles will now do -10% less damage but range has been increased by 50%"

Either you mean: They do 10% less damage than assault missiles and have 50% more range than those.

Or: They do 5% more damage than before Quantum Rise and range has been decreased by 63%.

Both ways an unneeded nerf to short range missile ships.

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Originally by: Oftherocks

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I coulda sworn that it was stated that new missions would be released with every new expansion now.

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Originally by: Estel Arador

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"Jaguar bonuses have been clarified, and resistance bonuses have been removed."

Can anyone tell me how/what/why this is?
(I'm sure there's a good reason, it's just that this comes out of the blue for me.)

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Originally by: Fredou

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Edited by: Fredou on 08/11/2008 13:54:27

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The following implants have been moved to slot 6:

* Shaqil's speed enhancer

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on one of my clone, i have an omega on slot 6 and shaqil on slot 7

what will happen on that patch?

one of them will get killed or what?

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Miscellaneous

Players will now receive a warning when taking more than one item from another player's wreck.

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Originally by: Sir Arland

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Originally by: Mara Kell

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"Rocket, assault missile and torpedo javelin missiles will now do -10% less damage but range has been increased by 50%"

Either you mean: They do 10% less damage than assault missiles and have 50% more range than those.

Or: They do 5% more damage than before Quantum Rise and range has been decreased by 63%.

Both ways an unneeded nerf to short range missile ships.

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For the torpedo javelin that mean the same range but more damages

Base damage pre-QR : 380 hp
Base damage after patch : 405 hp

Base Max velocity pre-QR : 2700m/s
Base Max velocity after patch : 2250m/s

Base flight time pre-QR : 5s
Base flight time after patch : 6s

mean 13.5km in both cases as max base range.

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Originally by: Exlegion

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Originally by: Sir Arland

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Originally by: Mara Kell

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"Rocket, assault missile and torpedo javelin missiles will now do -10% less damage but range has been increased by 50%"

Either you mean: They do 10% less damage than assault missiles and have 50% more range than those.

Or: They do 5% more damage than before Quantum Rise and range has been decreased by 63%.

Both ways an unneeded nerf to short range missile ships.

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For the torpedo javelin that mean the same range but more damages

Base damage pre-QR : 380 hp
Base damage after patch : 405 hp

Base Max velocity pre-QR : 2700m/s
Base Max velocity after patch : 2250m/s

Base flight time pre-QR : 5s
Base flight time after patch : 6s

mean 13.5km in both cases as max base range.

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That is not how I read that at all. But if it is indeed how you explain it, the patch notes on Javelin torpedoes are *very* deceiving.

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Originally by: Anomie Camus

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1500 posts

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Originally by: JorEl Tarasque

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Honestly,

Going through the notes this apears to be more of a 'nerf' expansion and a bug fix list than anything else.

The only really new item is the Orca "Which I AM thankfull for" and the 'changes' to the BR's.

Other than that I have a tough time saying expansion.
Please hold of on this and review the missile changes, speed changes some more.

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Originally by: Don Shadow

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Maximum top speed has been reduced across the board along with changes to how micro warp drives operate
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Changes have been made to all Frigates, Interceptors, Stealth Bombers, Destroyers, Cruisers, Battlecruisers and Battleships regarding base speed and micro warp drive speed. Rookie, Industrial, Capital and shuttle class ships remain unaffected.

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need for speed ftw

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Originally by: JorEl Tarasque

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Honestly,

Going through the notes this apears to be more of a 'nerf' expansion and a bug fix list than anything else.

The only really new item is the Orca "Which I AM thankfull for" and the 'changes' to the BR's.

Other than that I have a tough time saying expansion.
Please hold of on this and review the missile changes, speed changes some more.

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Originally by: Achmed TheDead

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Originally by: JorEl Tarasque

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Honestly,

Going through the notes this apears to be more of a 'nerf' expansion and a bug fix list than anything else.

The only really new item is the Orca "Which I AM thankfull for" and the 'changes' to the BR's.

Other than that I have a tough time saying expansion.
Please hold of on this and review the missile changes, speed changes some more.

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couldn't have said it better.

a few of the changes im just Meh about, everything else is a -1 for my reviews.

Every MMO i play (other than wow, which i wont play) has been getting Nerf batted. when is there going to be a game that actualy gets better :(

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Originally by: Halycon Gamma

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It has nothing to do with PVP vs Carebear, and everything to do with long term health of the game.

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Originally by: testttt11212

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there is one issue that I didn't see in the patch notes.

"The capacitor penalty associated with micro warp drives will now be based on meta level. A standard Tech I MWD will have a capacitor penalty of 25% when equipped while the meta 14 MWD will have a 0% penalty to capacitor status. Signature radius bonus will also be applied in this manner."

what will happen to ships which have a bonus to MWD capacitor penalty like the deimos? this bonus will be useless if you put anything better than meta 5 MWD in this case!

would appreciate a quick answer.

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Originally by: testttt11212

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guys, do you seriously expectt he devs to say "oh some guys are flaming on the forums, lets just forget the past few months of work we did and please them" ?
there is an organ between your ears called brain, use it to get an idea what to expect from the person you're talking to!

now, I would appreciate if someone sheds some light on my question:

Originally by: testttt11212

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there is one issue that I didn't see in the patch notes.

"The capacitor penalty associated with micro warp drives will now be based on meta level. A standard Tech I MWD will have a capacitor penalty of 25% when equipped while the meta 14 MWD will have a 0% penalty to capacitor status. Signature radius bonus will also be applied in this manner."

what will happen to ships which have a bonus to MWD capacitor penalty like the deimos? this bonus will be useless if you put anything better than meta 5 MWD in this case!

would appreciate a quick answer.

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Originally by: dojocan81

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i cannot find any Black Ops changes !!

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Originally by: keymaker

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so the gates are they only thing you could think of updating graphic wise , big dissapointment astroids/moons/planets/POS's should have come first on the list.....

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# The Nighthawk has had the explosion radius bonus changed to +5% heavy missile explosion velocity per level.

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Originally by: Esmenet

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Originally by: Leyline777

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Originally by: Innaara

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Obvious conclusion reading the nerfs:

- CCP wants to attract new players by giving them a chance to survive in 0,0. Eve is not like WoW where you not lose anything after being killed.
- When new players have a chance in 0,0, so will Chinese isk farmers.

Gameplay wise:

- By nerfing like this, targets can almost always get back to gates.
- Minni boats are next to useless (Vaga, rapier) while other races are intact.
- Blobs will emerge
- Small roaming gangs will not survive
- Sniping HACS can be an option but HACS will not be used much anymore.
- No more roaming fun. We should all join GBC or the NC so we can see the stackless bla bla crap that does not work.

CCP is a company that is all for the buck. New players that can go into 0,0 with limited amount of SP and will stay a bit longer in the game (that's CCP's aim; More money). Although CCP will not listen to me or anyone else, we will see how this turns out. CCP is not the only player in the market for a Space MMO.

As for the new content: Lame.

You really want something for the press so you won't be completely in the shadow of Wrath of the Linch king eh?

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key issue WoW is now becoming better than Eve due to ignoring player issues and test results... at least Blizzard isnt cheap on customer service. They value your money and addiction :P. I had quit WoW cause of the perks of eve... due to the fact that soloing (minus either luck or frigates) and gatecamping are going the way of the dinos i cancelled my account and will be going to warhammer online ;) Hope you get fired Nohz.

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I never thought I'd say this but wow actually starts to look good compared to EVE.

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Originally by: Halycon Gamma

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*stuff*

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Originally by: CCP Prism X

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In New Eden, EVE wins you.

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Originally by: Doonoo Boonoo

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I don't see anything about the selling of GTCs on the market.

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Originally by: Patch Notes

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Players will no longer be able to see the ranks of retired members of a militia.

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Originally by: Batolemaeus

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Originally by: Halycon Gamma

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*stuff*

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This man understands game design. Kudos to you sir, you hit the nail on the head.

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Originally by: Leyline777

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Originally by: testttt11212

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guys, do you seriously expectt he devs to say "oh some guys are flaming on the forums, lets just forget the past few months of work we did and please them" ?
there is an organ between your ears called brain, use it to get an idea what to expect from the person you're talking to!

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When they ask for testing and feedback and then completely ignore it?! .... was too distracted noticing that my battleship (blasterthron) now has the collective dps and solo/small gang potential of a wet kleenex.

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Originally by: CCP Wrangler

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EVE isn't designed to just look like a cold, dark and harsh world, it's designed to be a cold, dark and harsh world.

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The description of the Warp Disruption Field Generator has been changed. The following text has been added to the description: "The generator has several effects upon the parent ship whilst active. It increases its signature radius and agility whilst penalizing the velocity bonus of any afterburner or microwarpdrive modules.It also prevents any friendly remote effects from being rendered to the parent ship."

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Originally by: Halycon Gamma

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...It has nothing to do with PVP vs Carebear, and everything to do with long term health of the game. Don't believe me? Go try to manage a game with as many variables as Eve. Inside a year you'll be swinging the nerf bat yourself, no matter what your players say or think. Its not a popular thing to do, but sometimes it simply has to be done.

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Originally by: CCP Wrangler

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EVE isn't designed to just look like a cold, dark and harsh world, it's designed to be a cold, dark and harsh world.

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Originally by: Poreuomai

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Originally by: Batolemaeus

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Originally by: Halycon Gamma

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*stuff*

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This man understands game design. Kudos to you sir, you hit the nail on the head.

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He does not seem to understand the point at the heart of the issue - CCP asked customers for feedback and then seems to have ignored a large portion of the feedback - that's like doing a beta test and ignoring the results.

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Originally by: CCP Wrangler

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EVE isn't designed to just look like a cold, dark and harsh world, it's designed to be a cold, dark and harsh world.

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Originally by: anjana anaconda

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The description of the Warp Disruption Field Generator has been changed. The following text has been added to the description: "The generator has several effects upon the parent ship whilst active. It increases its signature radius and agility whilst penalizing the velocity bonus of any afterburner or microwarpdrive modules.It also prevents any friendly remote effects from being rendered to the parent ship."

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which is the parent ship?

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Originally by: Poreuomai

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He does not seem to understand the point at the heart of the issue - CCP asked customers for feedback and then seems to have ignored a large portion of the feedback - that's like doing a beta test and ignoring the results.

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Originally by: CCP Prism X

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In New Eden, EVE wins you.

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Originally by: Batolemaeus

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Originally by: Poreuomai

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He does not seem to understand the point at the heart of the issue - CCP asked customers for feedback and then seems to have ignored a large portion of the feedback - that's like doing a beta test and ignoring the results.

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Oh, they did listen to feedback. Constructive feedback, to be precise.
The 90% of incoherent garbage were of course sorted out. Luckily.

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Originally by: testttt11212

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now, I would appreciate if someone sheds some light on my question:

Originally by: testttt11212

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there is one issue that I didn't see in the patch notes.

"The capacitor penalty associated with micro warp drives will now be based on meta level. A standard Tech I MWD will have a capacitor penalty of 25% when equipped while the meta 14 MWD will have a 0% penalty to capacitor status. Signature radius bonus will also be applied in this manner."

what will happen to ships which have a bonus to MWD capacitor penalty like the deimos? this bonus will be useless if you put anything better than meta 5 MWD in this case!

would appreciate a quick answer.

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Originally by: Lisa Star

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Wait,
The description of the Warp Disruption Field Generator has been changed. The following text has been added to the description: "The generator has several effects upon the parent ship whilst active. It increases its signature radius and agility whilst penalizing the velocity bonus of any afterburner or microwarpdrive modules. It also prevents any friendly remote effects from being rendered to the parent ship."
Is this true as of now?

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All medium drones have been changed as they were too effective against small targets. The optimal signature radius has been increased to 125m and increased tracking by a factor of 1.2x giving a change of -42.4% against smaller targets.

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Originally by: Kerfira

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Originally by: Leyline777

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Originally by: testttt11212

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guys, do you seriously expectt he devs to say "oh some guys are flaming on the forums, lets just forget the past few months of work we did and please them" ?
there is an organ between your ears called brain, use it to get an idea what to expect from the person you're talking to!

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When they ask for testing and feedback and then completely ignore it?! .... was too distracted noticing that my battleship (blasterthron) now has the collective dps and solo/small gang potential of a wet kleenex.

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They asked for feedback, but they never promised to do what people whined about, especially the large amount of people who just couldn't stand seeing their I-Win button taken away.

CCP has actually changed the speednerf significantly, and if you'd actually logging into SiSi and tried it, you'd see that it actually works very well.
Speed tanks are no longer effectively an invulnerability fit, but is still worth doing. It is, however, no longer the tactic to beat all other tactics.

As for your blasterthron... some CCP dev said it a long time ago: "The Battleship isn't, nor has it ever been intended to be, a solo WtfPwnMobile!"

Stop crying and adapt!

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Originally by: Zaiyo Modi

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Edited by: Zaiyo Modi on 09/11/2008 14:20:40

Q: If a character has a medal given to him by the corp, does the medal stay stuck onto the character when/if he/she leaves the corp and start working for any other corp? (I hope so)

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Originally by: ForceM

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I have an AY-1 in slot 6 which is gonna go into Slot 7.
In slot 7 i have an AX-1 ...

Dont tell me im gonna have to petition to get my AX-1 back?
Let is be deposited in my hanger.

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Originally by: Gavyn Reynolds

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Players typically don't understand nulluniversalnull game balance vs. individual want.

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Originally by: Gavyn Reynolds

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I for one agree that many of the changes should at least be explained

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Originally by: Arkady Sadik

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There was a nice feedback loop between players and devs, despite a whole bunch of people creating alts to spam threads with whines. It was painful to read those, with one useful post with content every five pages. And good arguments were listened to. Which is good :-)

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Originally by: CCP Prism X

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In New Eden, EVE wins you.

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Originally by: General Esylium

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"The capacitor penalty associated with micro warp drives will now be based on meta level. A standard Tech I MWD will have a capacitor penalty of 25% when equipped while the meta 14 MWD will have a 0% penalty to capacitor status. Signature radius bonus will also be applied in this manner."

what will happen to ships which have a bonus to MWD capacitor penalty like the deimos and vigilant? this bonus will be useless if you put anything better than meta 5 MWD in this case and there is nothing in the notes that addresses matters.

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Originally by: Gaius Sejanus

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I'd appreciate an official dev response (or a link to an explicit dev response) regarding implants being shoved into conflicting slots.

It would also be nice to know what will happen to inactive jump clones who have implants that will conflict after the patch. Will those implants show up in the hangar where the clone is located?

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Originally by: Lord Zarcam

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Can anybody explain this from the patch notes:

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Miscellaneous

Players will now receive a warning when taking more than one item from another player's wreck.

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Originally by: Oreth Te

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Humph! Just adapt guys and gals, and get on with playing the dam game, get out of your comfort zone, if you can’t or won't evolve then join all the other species that failed, and which are remembered only in the history books and museums, humans dislike change imposed on them, it's unsettling, but it stops you staying in a rut. It encourages you to think, and EVE is intended to be a thinking person’s game. FFS anyone can play limited adaptability ‘shootemups’ with a little hand and eye co-ordination.

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Originally by: CCP Explorer

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Originally by: Lord Zarcam

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Can anybody explain this from the patch notes:

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Miscellaneous

Players will now receive a warning when taking more than one item from another player's wreck.

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Currently you receive a warning before taking an item from another player's wreck (but no warning if you take more than one item at the same time). Now you will receive a warning before taking one or more items from another player's wreck.

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Originally by: ******ed Noob

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any body know if there are any other new games coming out online. Im looking for one as I'm sick and tired of getting ripped off by foriegn lands. prefebaly an American company that truly understands the words CUSTOMER SERVICE!!!
thank you ccp for scheduling another patch during an American holiday. really appreciated.

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Originally by: Ame Nanaro

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Words

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Originally by: Oreth Te

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Originally by: ******ed Noob

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any body know if there are any other new games coming out online. Im looking for one as I'm sick and tired of getting ripped off by foriegn lands. prefebaly an American company that truly understands the words CUSTOMER SERVICE!!!
thank you ccp for scheduling another patch during an American holiday. really appreciated.

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Aw, shame, well all countries have hols and its tough if it falls on them but to the rest of the world, its just another workday, u win some u lose some.

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Originally by: ******ed Noob

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well I was asking for more useful information than that but yeah I ask for advice, I get hello America We hate you. (must be a f---terrorist.) for your information this is about the third time I've noticed this issue. It's why I brought it up.

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Originally by: CCP Explorer

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Originally by: Lord Zarcam

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Can anybody explain this from the patch notes:

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Miscellaneous

Players will now receive a warning when taking more than one item from another player's wreck.

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Currently you receive a warning before taking an item from another player's wreck (but no warning if you take more than one item at the same time). Now you will receive a warning before taking one or more items from another player's wreck.

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Originally by: RedSplat

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Originally by: ******ed Noob

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well I was asking for more useful information than that but yeah I ask for advice, I get hello America We hate you. (must be a f---terrorist.) for your information this is about the third time I've noticed this issue. It's why I brought it up.

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The world doesn't revolve around America, stop acting as if it does and you will get better responses from people.

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Originally by: Lord Zarcam

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Originally by: CCP Explorer

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Originally by: Lord Zarcam

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Can anybody explain this from the patch notes:

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Miscellaneous

Players will now receive a warning when taking more than one item from another player's wreck.

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Currently you receive a warning before taking an item from another player's wreck (but no warning if you take more than one item at the same time). Now you will receive a warning before taking one or more items from another player's wreck.

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Thank you for responding to my question. I understand the purpose of the message, but if someone has already taken one piece of loot from a wreck, I second message will not deter them from taking additional pieces. The damage is done and the agro timer has already started.

At a time when we CCP it trying to lighten the server loads and improve performance, why create additional loads with un-needed pop-ups?

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Originally by: CCP Explorer

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At a time when we CCP it trying to lighten the server loads and improve performance, why create additional loads with un-needed pop-ups?

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Originally by: RedSplat

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Originally by: CCP Explorer

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No, the issue was that if you took just one item you got a warning but if you took many items in one go (multi-move) then you got no warning and an agression timer straigt-away. These warnings are client-side, have no impact on server performance.

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Can we disable this message?

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Originally by: RedSplat

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If not, as its a client side matter i am guessing it will be easy for someone to setup a fix that prevents it or automatically says 'yes'?

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Originally by: CCP Navigator

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The EVE Online: Quantum Rise patch will be deployed this Tuesday, 11th November. Tranquility will be down from 02.00 to 02.00 GMT.

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Originally by: Kelshron

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Originally by: CCP Navigator

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The EVE Online: Quantum Rise patch will be deployed this Tuesday, 11th November. Tranquility will be down from 02.00 to 02.00 GMT.

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ummm...Is this really a 24 hour downtime or a typo ???

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Originally by: Plutonias

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I noticed that the times are very misleading, is it 24 hours? Only usually 0200 to 0200 gmt is 24 hours, did you mean 0200hrs to 1400 hrs gmt?
Please enlighten me on this as I am sure I cannot be the only one this error has stumped.
Thankyou
Plutonias

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Originally by: Innaara

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Obvious conclusion reading the nerfs:
- Sniping HACS can be an option but HACS will not be used much anymore.

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Originally by: Dr Sheepbringer

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So....do we get a free day?

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Originally by: CCP Mitnal

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You put a bear in your tea???

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Originally by: Leyline777

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Originally by: Innaara

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Obvious conclusion reading the nerfs:

- CCP wants to attract new players by giving them a chance to survive in 0,0. Eve is not like WoW where you not lose anything after being killed.
- When new players have a chance in 0,0, so will Chinese isk farmers.

Gameplay wise:

- By nerfing like this, targets can almost always get back to gates.
- Minni boats are next to useless (Vaga, rapier) while other races are intact.
- Blobs will emerge
- Small roaming gangs will not survive
- Sniping HACS can be an option but HACS will not be used much anymore.
- No more roaming fun. We should all join GBC or the NC so we can see the stackless bla bla crap that does not work.

CCP is a company that is all for the buck. New players that can go into 0,0 with limited amount of SP and will stay a bit longer in the game (that's CCP's aim; More money). Although CCP will not listen to me or anyone else, we will see how this turns out. CCP is not the only player in the market for a Space MMO.

As for the new content: Lame.

You really want something for the press so you won't be completely in the shadow of Wrath of the Linch king eh?

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key issue WoW is now becoming better than Eve due to ignoring player issues and test results... at least Blizzard isnt cheap on customer service. They value your money and addiction :P. I had quit WoW cause of the perks of eve... due to the fact that soloing (minus either luck or frigates) and gatecamping are going the way of the dinos i cancelled my account and will be going to warhammer online ;) Hope you get fired Nohz.

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Originally by: Khanto Thor

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On Sisi at the moment, priming weapons only lasts about 20s, then the weapons stop flashing.

Is this mechanism change by design, will it be implemented with QR, or is it a bug?

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Originally by: Plutonias

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I noticed that the times are very misleading, is it 24 hours? Only usually 0200 to 0200 gmt is 24 hours, did you mean 0200hrs to 1400 hrs gmt?

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Originally by: CCP Explorer

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Originally by: Khanto Thor

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On Sisi at the moment, priming weapons only lasts about 20s, then the weapons stop flashing.

Is this mechanism change by design, will it be implemented with QR, or is it a bug?

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You mean when you click a module and then target? That's a bug, being fixed.

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• Nano/Speed changes - all things currently in the game.


• Weapon groups - user interface changes.


• EVE64 - already in the game and hardly content.StacklessIO - while we welcome lag reductions, it still isn't anything approaching content.


• Certificates/Medals - Extension of the FW ranks. RP Content?

Originally by: Kozmic

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we only have shield, armor and honor/pod tank.

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Originally by: Poreuomai

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This man understands game design. Kudos to you sir, you hit the nail on the head.

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Originally by: Lethos Aranis

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Haulers (Was it haulers?) can now use Cov Ops cloak and can use Cov Ops Portal. So now you can load it up with jump fuel and that kind of helps with the fuel issue as the others in gang can do a proper load out without worrying about fuel :)

Other than that, no....no BOPs changes.

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# Double clicking on a character icon in chat will now display "Show info" rather than starting a conversation.

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Originally by: Nomuri

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Am I reading this right?

Blueprints can now be unlocked if a vote times out with zero votes. This fix is the result of blueprints getting locked down when the vote is proposed but time elapses with no votes. The same mechanic is now used to unlock blueprints.

Does this mean that I can wait until the CEO goes on vacation/business trip (has all the shares), propose an unlock vote and if he doesn't vote then all the bpo will unlock automatically?

IF this is correct, talk about a huge security issue. No one in their right mind is going to keep blueprints in a corporate hanger. This should continue to fail to a locked status.

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Originally by: Moss Keetow

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it's not restarting and I was doing The Assault in my phoon !!! I will never be able to finish before downtime ... If my phoon still exists ....

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Originally by: Jacobi Tyreas

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Im so glad i get to pay to watch a timer countdown to 0 over and over and over again..

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Originally by: Earthican

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Greenwich Mean Time (GMT)
Monday, 10 November 2008
22:00:09 / 10:00:09 p.m.

You may NOW shut down the server, not an hour ago.

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Originally by: Arkady Sadik

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Same with medium drones: They were too effective against frigates. They're supposed to be anti-cruiser weapons, not anti-frigate weapons. So they got adjusted to be less effective against frigates. Etc.

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Originally by: ******ed Noob

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any body know if there are any other new games coming out online. Im looking for one as I'm sick and tired of getting ripped off by foriegn lands. prefebaly an American company that truly understands the words CUSTOMER SERVICE!!!
thank you ccp for scheduling another patch during an American holiday. really appreciated.

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Originally by: Illectroculus Defined

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Originally by: ******ed Noob

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any body know if there are any other new games coming out online. Im looking for one as I'm sick and tired of getting ripped off by foriegn lands. prefebaly an American company that truly understands the words CUSTOMER SERVICE!!!
thank you ccp for scheduling another patch during an American holiday. really appreciated.

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Actually, November the 11th is recognised internationally, and I would like to commend CCP on their efforts to remember those who have given of themselves in wars by ensuring there will be peace in New Eden on this day of rememberance.

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Originally by: ******ed Noob

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Edited by: ******ed Noob on 10/11/2008 22:27:00

Originally by: Illectroculus Defined

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Originally by: ******ed Noob

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any body know if there are any other new games coming out online. Im looking for one as I'm sick and tired of getting ripped off by foriegn lands. prefebaly an American company that truly understands the words CUSTOMER SERVICE!!!
thank you ccp for scheduling another patch during an American holiday. really appreciated.

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Actually, November the 11th is recognised internationally, and I would like to commend CCP on their efforts to remember those who have given of themselves in wars by ensuring there will be peace in New Eden on this day of rememberance.

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now you sir get it. your actually one of the few people that make eve worth playing. I appreciate the the point that it is a day recognized by other countries as well, I didn't know that. but I still wish CCP Would use a little concern when they schedule these upgrades as this is not the first time they scheduled a patch on a holiday when a good number of people might be wanting to play the game. I don't ever recall them doing a major upgrade on the weekend(and I wouldn't expect them to.) by the way a few more post like your's and I might even decide to renew my subscription.

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Originally by: Degara Farat

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7 pages / 183 posts containing:

1 the OP
4 responses from pilots that have actually been on SiSi
7 DEV-responses
171 whines (at least it looks like that to me)

I have been playing this game for just 11 months now but I do have the tendency to see what happens after the patch/update/expansion before flaming the developers.

As for the content, aren't you happy they released some content before the real expansion tomorrow? Or can you only whine about the DT being extended by 15min? Talking of which, you should pray it will only last 24hrs......

As for the Orca's Drone bay & BW: its enough room for 5x light drones and 5x mining drones

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Originally by: Hecate Ablaze

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Originally by: Innaara
- All farmers, bot players will now be flying Orca's

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