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Kerfira	Posted - 2008.11.12 19:06:00 - [121] Edited by: Kerfira on 12/11/2008 19:06:52 Originally by: Jason Edwards Let me explain something. Mission runners are about 70% caldari aka raven variant. I personally have used dominix the last year; gotten ishtar more recently. BUT I also have CNR for running missions against angels and drones. Speed nerf and missile nerf was related to pvp. Carebears have absolutely nothing to so with nano*s. So with that taken into account; missile nerf should have been 100% unchanged to missions. I just got finished running IO. The difference is stunning. I got the mission finished... but damn... nearly got popped doing it. Seems like you cant do that anymore. Will have to train for something else... but oh right... there's a huge unbalance in the game now. So any proposed better option will also be nerfed. You should be aware of something.... It has long been evident that L4 missions in high-sec were way too profitable (risk/reward) versus 0.0, and that Ravens were way too easy to get into and do L4's in. My guess is that the missile changes are also partially thought of for solving that problem. Secondly (hint, hint)..... Target Painters (also available in drone form)!!! 'nuff said! The mission Raven of old could have a full tank and full gank. Now you have to choose! This is how it should be in EVE. Cookie-cutter fits are bad for game balance and enjoyment. Improvise! Adapt! Overcome! Originally by:** CCP Wrangler EVE isn't designed to just look like a cold, dark and harsh world, it's designed to be a cold, dark and harsh world.
Dikat	Posted - 2008.11.12 19:14:00 - [122] Originally by: Poba where did AFs 4th bonus go, no its just not listed as standard resist bonus, but not listed as anything. pls give AFs a nice bonus to make them good, liek a AB bonus so they go around 1.5k ABing and should mitigate most larger damage types making them worthwhile. Try an AF now before complaining that they need more. They can solo HAC's (I killed a zealot on the test server in a wolf and the pilot had very good skills and a high tracking setup as well as ammo specific to killing my ship's weakness) and would be death to any interceptor dumb enough to go into scrambler range. With an AB you can go around 1.3k in an AF. The usefulness of Assault Frigates were boosted hugely by this patch. Quote: diemos/thorax change from MWD cap penalty maybe ? maybe to armor rep ammound or something, maybe make the previous changes you wanted to do ( - MWD bonus, +armor repair bonus, +650 cap) and leave slot layout alone, that would make it nicer again Deimos needs loving for sure. Thorax I think is still fun to fly but yes, that mwd cap bonus is worthless now.
Wolf2516 Flight of the Phoenix Dirt Nap Associates	Posted - 2008.11.12 19:20:00 - [123] yet another bug... or bugs.... Can not update kill mails... item names changed in the game due to the new patch change such as the scrams and disruptors. with them u can no longer update ur kill mails if one of these is active... great idea guys... Also lag sucks arse! thought this patch was to help reduce lag? from wot i can tell its worse... [url=http://fop.twilightlair.net/killboard/?a=pilot_detail&plt_id=39012] [/url]
Rienhildie	Posted - 2008.11.12 19:49:00 - [124] Edited by: Rienhildie on 12/11/2008 19:50:36 PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE I am begging here! Let us edit or delete medals that have been made. I accidentally got a spelling error in one of my medal descriptions and two directors made "Medal of Honor" at the same time. Now we have two medals with the same name and and one medal we can't assign because of a stupid mistake.
Mara Kell Steel Beasts Sev3rance	Posted - 2008.11.12 20:02:00 - [125] Originally by: CCP Greyscale Given that we standardize on American English, I believe comptroller is a valid word, and it does sound cooler. Well i know that its a valid english word but i dont think the translators got it right. The german client says Ernte-Comptrolleur. In which "Ernte" means harvest in the agriculturas sense and Comptrolleur is a french translation of the comptroller. The correct translation would have been more like Abbau-Kontroleur, Abbau-Inspektor or in a more modern wording Abbau-Controller.
Drago Wolfson	Posted - 2008.11.12 20:21:00 - [126] My ten pennorth on QR..... First I will declare up front I am Caldari and a Missile Whre. Generally I think all is good with the QR expansion, like particularly the weapon grouping. Medals good but too expensive for a small corp like mine.....maybe reduce the cost to 2 Million ISK? Please implement the module timer "turn off" option when you can....I find them very distracting. Speed nerfs.....well not entirely happy but understand and can live with it, but your missile damage nerfs have gone too far IMO. I agree it was ridiculously easy to kill a frigate with Cruises hitherto, but I think you have overcorrected and probably a nerf of 50 to 60% of that implemented would have been about right. The smartases will talk about using drones on the frigates, but if you are on a mission solo with 4 or 5 frigates that can scram and your tank is going down, it is potentially going to be impossible to survive if you get permascrammed by 2 or 3 of those frigates.....and it seems from previous comments that even target painting doesn't improve things much, so it is not like there is a skill based/module based option to mitigate some of the nerf effects. Please reconsider the level of this nerf. I look forward to doing some of the new missions...thanks for those, always needed. Finally, the stargate changes around Motsu, and the removal of the Motsu Saila gate particularly........why???? It now needs 3 jumps to get from Motsu to Saila and I am still getting missions there from a Q18 agent!! Keep up the good work.........I know you cannot please everyone all of the time... Salvage drones in the next patch?
Miraqu Caldari Amarrian Heavy Industries	Posted - 2008.11.12 20:25:00 - [127] So far works very well. I think the sertificates system needs still some fine tuning, but is already a very good tool for corp management issues or helping new players. I do not think hat Mining Drones belong into the harvester certificate. Also I think that the skill requirements for the Refinery Foreman are inconsistent, you need refining 5, refinery efficiency 1, metallurgy 2 and scrapmetal processing 2, which needs refinery efficency 5 AND metallurgy 5. Very good job otherwise.
Jason Edwards	Posted - 2008.11.12 20:33:00 - [128] Quote: It has long been evident that L4 missions in high-sec were way too profitable (risk/reward) versus 0.0 Ive made multiple posts on this topic. By nerfing missions you in turn destroy 0.0 less people buy deadspace-officer mods, or cant even afford them. The price drops significantly on those mods and those 0.0 people are hurt eversomore. the fix was to shift the bistot ores into ALL OF 0.0. Create a extreme rare high high yield ores for those currently valuable 0.0 systems. Like rare veld in those systems which refine into 10,000 trit instead of veld's usual 1,000. Quote: and that Ravens were way too easy to get into and do L4's in. While there are 50,000,000 sp chars running missions for big isk... but 2mil sp chars need an easy part of the game to play. They cant survive in 0.0 Quote: My guess is that the missile changes are also partially thought of for solving that problem. No this change is only going to solve the issue of lag. You know when half the playerbase quits because of this. Quote: Secondly (hint, hint)..... Target Painters (also available in drone form)!!! 'nuff said! Ravens now cant kill frigs at all. This is by design. Cruisers are harder even more. So basically you want a set of medium drones because mediums kill cruisers and will still kill frigs reasonably well. leaving a set of lights. How much does 5x warrior tps do? 20% STACKED. So what? 15% effective increase? That's NOTHING. Wont increase anything. Not only that... you have to wait for drones to change targets... you have to constantly be adjusting the drones yourself. and not only that... this huge increase in killing means the rats get on top of you. You then die. ------------------------ Have you fed your slaves recently? -BRB Rens
Jason Edwards	Posted - 2008.11.12 20:36:00 - [129] Quote: The mission Raven of old could have a full tank and full gank. No it couldnt. Unless you bought some 2 billion isk gist mods. ravens never fit a proper tank. Quote: Now you have to choose! This is how it should be in EVE. Cookie-cutter fits are bad for game balance and enjoyment. You had to choose before moron. My point is that you CANT GANK. Quote: Improvise! Adapt! Overcome! It's called False Dilemma fallacy We have whine and quit also. I'm not gone because I'm paid up for awhile. ------------------------ Have you fed your slaves recently? -BRB Rens
Tara Nighthawk Gallente	Posted - 2008.11.12 20:37:00 - [130] My EVE installation updated without problems. Seems fine so far. This is on a Mac. I think I prefer the red login page to the brown, although I still wish we could go back to the blue one. No issues up to now. Thanks for the update. Looking forward to seeing the Walking in Station. I assume that will work on a Mac (i.e. with the low level graphics) as well as with the better graphics?
Kerfira	Posted - 2008.11.12 21:40:00 - [131] Originally by: Jason Edwards Self-serving drivel.... basically about wanting his I-Win button back... Oh, poor you! Heavens forbid missions actually being challenging or dangerous..... Sometimes things change. It provides entertainment and challenge, something which is a must especially in a GAME. To address a few of your points.... Your 2m SP character should not be flying a Raven. He should be doing L2's in a Caracal. Half of EVE quitting. A few might quit (those who can't stand change), but EVE will be better off with BALANCED game mechanics. Can't kill frigs. Train your drone skills! Wait for drones to change targets.... Oh noes. My ISK/hour income backbone!!! Can't gank.... Learn to fit a Raven! Originally by: CCP Wrangler EVE isn't designed to just look like a cold, dark and harsh world, it's designed to be a cold, dark and harsh world.
Drahcir Nasom Independent Manufacturers	Posted - 2008.11.12 21:46:00 - [132] WTF have you done to the POS process control management screen. Every time I put a silo offline or online, all the different modules move themselves around, also the entire panel looks upside down compared to before. Before the Harvestable Resources was at the top, then reactors went below that, then silos and coupling arrays below that, now harvestable resources is at the bottom below reactors, silos and coupling arrays which are all mixed up and move about at random. Also, the new POS fuel screen is horrible. Please put these 2 management screen back how they were.
ARDIUM Gallente AAA THE RAGE	Posted - 2008.11.12 23:03:00 - [133] Don't like it, just don't like hardly any of it... medals could be cool, certificates are pointless and just more boring paperwork to tie you down, PVE is without doubt worse and more boring than ever, so that's about 50% of your gamers **ed off... Inty's are now rendered useless... Devastating to someone who's spent months on navigational/mwd skills... I couldn't care less if i jumped through a new gate, within 5 minutes I won't be able to remember which one's are the new ones, and besides, how much time have you spent on gates CCP? doesn't it spur the thought, "Are we really giving the gamers what they want..."? I mean... TO THE PUBLIC 1. Reply 1. if you want a new jump gate going to exactly the same place as always. 2. Reply 2. if you would prefer your ships returning to normal speed or infact faster... I personally think we should have been walking on stations and playing cards, getting into fights, and meeting up for meetings in stations a long time ago, in convo's why not also add moveable facial expressions, like the ones on character select?... And whilst i'm at it, a 1st person sniper shooting style able to target particular areas in ships, like afterburners, or attatch tracking devices to them? These are the sorts of things I think would send Eve into a new era where interest would grow dramatically, nevermind making missions even more painfull, or shafting loyal gamers who happen to be skint on the day they need to renew... Personally i'd give every player 7 days to renew their game with full access in the mean time if their subscription runs out... The decency appears to be dissapearing out of Eve recently, which is a massive shame, cos I was really quite starting to like this game the way it was... New badge will go online in my corp today... **ED OFF GAMER... The game seems to waller in lack of usefull ideas, and annoying you must relearn just when you got used to it bull... I liked Empyrian age, thought it was sweet... This is enough to send me over the edge and start me shopping again...
ARDIUM Gallente AAA THE RAGE	Posted - 2008.11.12 23:17:00 - [134] Originally by: Jason Edwards Quote: It has long been evident that L4 missions in high-sec were way Quote: My guess is that the missile changes are also partially thought of for solving that problem. No this change is only going to solve the issue of lag. You know when half the playerbase quits because of this. Jason Edwards, where the hell did you get this bull**** about half of the players leave cos of lag? You're full of it, they leave cos this game is off the mark and doesn't fullfill their needs, not all peeps will love it, especially during the 1st few months till you get into a war or something, point is, it's not a fabulous game, even though it is loved by many... Lag has seen about 15 players leave in history so pull another one... Station walking will add thousands upon thousands of players if it has depth, and the fighting style was absolutely awfull in my opinion when i 1st joined, point is you get used to it... but others will think it as too crap to bother...
Aragonis DROW Org Brotherhood of the Spider	Posted - 2008.11.13 00:30:00 - [135] Every single one of my friends does not play EVE. I am the only one. I've tried to bring them into the game many times, but the reason they quit is that they get bored of just mission running over and over and over. So I got them into a couple of PvP scuffles and they instantly loved it - the part they hated though was the massive amount of time it took to find anyone we could attack successfully without them just leaving. WTZ made gate camping practically impossible, I would have much prefered like "Warp to 2km" in order to solve a lot of the lag and still let the pirates in. Or even have all lowsec gates only be able to warp to 2km, and all highsec gates being able to WTZ. That'd be much better. Then the last patch nerfed a whole pile of PvP stuff. Now you're nerfing even more PvP stuff and buffing carebear occupations. Usually I wouldn't mind - my PvP encounters are infrequent - but it's making the game so lame and boring. I love it when some pirate comes after me when I'm doing my day to day stuff, it means I can kick his ass without the reduce sec status. Without that, you're eliminating an entire large portion of the game and eliminating a large player base (read: income source for your pockets). I've never been more ****ed off at a patch before ¼_¼ --- http://www.ninjacodingmonkey.co.uk/
Fiona Mars Minmatar	Posted - 2008.11.13 01:24:00 - [136] Originally by: Trinneth Originally by: CCP Greyscale Given that we standardize on American English, I believe comptroller is a valid word, and it does sound cooler. Well sure, it's a word valid word in English English too, but maybe not a word which means what you intended. But hey, your universe, your lore, the word can mean whatever the hell you like in EVE. Get a dictionary. It means what they intended. Less of the moaning, it doesn't do anything for me.
Garion Avarr Amarr Zero Zero Traders YTMND.	Posted - 2008.11.13 01:29:00 - [137] NPC speed and webs need to be nerfed. Seems you forgot to bring those in line with player speeds and webs. . . .
Slistine Death Sons of Angelus Mortis	Posted - 2008.11.13 01:40:00 - [138] Edited by: Slistine Death on 13/11/2008 01:45:49 CCP... Say goodbye to 3 accounts. I won't be renewing my subs. The last 2 'expansions' have been extremely disappointing. Quantum Rise and all the changes leading up to it being completely humiliating to myself as a paying subscriber. CCP, you should be adding or improving the content of EVE, don't drastically change the game play so extensively and nerf roles players have spent months training and expect everyone to swallow it and spend months training to adapt to only be nerfed again. This expansion is more of a giant nerf bat and bug fix then anything else. Sure you added a new ship and a couple 'wow' features, but this expansion falls way below previous expectations of what a an expansion should be. I want to point out that you never completed the Trinity expansion improving textures on things like roids, pos's, and scores of other everyday graphics you said you were going to improve. You have ignored your core membership with your changes to GTC flexibility, ghost training, and other major issues and pandered to carebears and more importantly to your new management/financial advisors and it's desire to attract new subscriptions and increase revenue temporarily. Subscriptions which, I might add don't stick around long. You should take a close look at your active player numbers and new subscriptions over the past 9 months and ask yourself if your customer service, company goals, and expansions have really been geared towards keeping your current customer base. I've bitten my tongue and continued playing long enough despite my reservations about your goals and direction this year. EVE is no longer fun and CCP... you no longer care--- Where ever your old management and company goals disappeared to... I thank them for my past entertainment and say goodbye and good riddance to the new management and style of MMO you have become. -SD
Gunther Nhilathok Caldari Fluffy Bunnies and Kittens	Posted - 2008.11.13 02:21:00 - [139] Well, normally I would just log in and enjoy playing eve, but now that it's no longer eve, I decided to come here and complain about it. For 3 years, I've played this game with no serious beefs with game mechanics, but now that the whole game has been recalculated to appease the carebears, I think I'm going to search for something that doesn't suck. And no, I'm giving my stuff to my friends. ;) This is beginning to remind me tragically of another gaming company. SOE. Maybe if you'd ignore ppl who've been playing for 2 weeks or have 4 macro accounts and try to get feedback from the players who actually enjoy playing, you'd get a better idea of what needs changed. Also, devs, start playing again, csm can't teach you anything, they've got their own agendas. Ahh, the internet, where the men are men, the women are men, and the little girls are FBI agents----Ritt Serras
ARDIUM Gallente AAA THE RAGE	Posted - 2008.11.13 02:32:00 - [140] I'd like to appologise to CCP, for being a little bit angry about the new patch and nerfs to ship speeds etc... I've just watched the new videos from fanfest 2008, and in short, i'm quite happy that they do whatever they want... I'm sold 100%, here's my sisters phone number, (0044)652771154478... There's stuff on there I had dreamed of, and if we are able to see that quality of advancements and additions to Eve, well lets just say it really is the game we've all dreamed it would be... For those of us who are a little heavy at times for whatever reason, we should be patient and understand that there are bigger things going on out there, that these guys are doing phenomenally well... CCP we love you, even though we will probably continue to give you a hard time... Now get back to work!
Darkeen Gallente	Posted - 2008.11.13 02:43:00 - [141] Originally by: Rienhildie Edited by: Rienhildie on 12/11/2008 19:50:36 PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE I am begging here! Let us edit or delete medals that have been made. I accidentally got a spelling error in one of my medal descriptions and two directors made "Medal of Honor" at the same time. Now we have two medals with the same name and and one medal we can't assign because of a stupid mistake. Petition it... Regards, Jason Brisbane
Darkeen Gallente	Posted - 2008.11.13 02:47:00 - [142] Originally by: Tara Nighthawk My EVE installation updated without problems. Seems fine so far. This is on a Mac. I think I prefer the red login page to the brown, although I still wish we could go back to the blue one. No issues up to now. Thanks for the update. Looking forward to seeing the Walking in Station. I assume that will work on a Mac (i.e. with the low level graphics) as well as with the better graphics? Subject of course to the EULA,.... you could always manually change the spaslh graphics... I found it in a subdirectory but I dont know how wel it would take to being modified, changed, etc,.... Still, its an idea.. Regards, Jason Brisbane
Darkeen Gallente	Posted - 2008.11.13 02:50:00 - [143] Originally by: Slistine Death Edited by: Slistine Death on 13/11/2008 01:52:35 CCP... Say goodbye to 3 accounts. I won't be renewing my subs. <snip> -SD Your stuff, I have?? (First!) Regards, Jason Brisbane
FJCruisader	Posted - 2008.11.13 03:13:00 - [144] Awesome....awesome...awesome....no problems so far and everything looks great and what little lag I had before is gone. Great job Eve!
Hihh'Tari	Posted - 2008.11.13 03:56:00 - [145] Originally by: Spc One Originally by: Lucien Kentares Missile Nerf is a little bit to hard. With cruise Missiles it take up to 3 times more to destroy a simple Frig. Especialy when they are too far for Drones. A CNR or other bigger Ships will tank frigs nearly forever, but now you have to shot at them "forever" ;) I agree. Missiles should be like they were before the patch.
Evan Batarr	Posted - 2008.11.13 06:35:00 - [146] Originally by: Mara Kell Originally by: CCP Greyscale Given that we standardize on American English, I believe comptroller is a valid word, and it does sound cooler. Well i know that its a valid english word but i dont think the translators got it right. The german client says Ernte-Comptrolleur. In which "Ernte" means harvest in the agriculturas sense and Comptrolleur is a french translation of the comptroller. The correct translation would have been more like Abbau-Kontroleur, Abbau-Inspektor or in a more modern wording Abbau-Controller. Sorry, but it's completely ridiculous to standardize on American English. BRITISH ENGLISH is the standard all around the world (except for the USA). This is what's teached in schools! And you're right, the german translations are and were awful. Nothing changed since the last 2 years. They always translate completely out of context and I have the feeling that the translators cannot speak english nor german very well.
Tangaloa	Posted - 2008.11.13 07:19:00 - [147] Edited by: Tangaloa on 13/11/2008 07:22:17 Just an observation. On the certification planner screen one of the prerequisites for BASIC Common Ore Refiner is STANDARD Refinery Foreman. It seems rather strange having a basic skill dependent upon one which is more advanced.
Tangaloa	Posted - 2008.11.13 07:28:00 - [148] Another certificate related observation. Standard Ore Refiner has Jaspet listed twice as a prerequisite, but does not have Pyroxeres.
Camino Nachtmeister	Posted - 2008.11.13 07:51:00 - [149] Expansion updated without issue. This is on Mac. Playing on highest classic grafics settings - running smooth, maybe some 3-5fps slower then before patch (thus faster then before the last empyrean age patch), but NO CRASH for over a day! This is a very nice improvement in comparison to the 1-2 hourly "unexpected" shutdowns, over the last 4-6 weeks. No grafic bugs so far (no station, no star map gliches). I love the cycle timers. The jukebox is now playing for hours and hours without fault. This is new to me :D Well the 10 new tracks - are (just) 10 new tracks, nicely meddled into the former 40-50 ;-)
Gunter Bahad Amarr	Posted - 2008.11.13 07:52:00 - [150] Running lvl4 missions has become down right stupid. You can barely kill the frigs in a BS before the bloody expansion now you can even take them out with drones. In so much that I lost a bloody BS to them due to being scrammed. I suggest the following: - Remove Frigs from lvl 4 missions - Increase the damage small scout drones do to Rat frig - Remove the scram ability from Rat frigs in lvl4 missions - Increase the Isk/lp value so it is worth the time to bring people to help in missions since the current amounts are not worth the time or reward. Until this crap is sorted out I'm sticking to mining sod this. All of history is a lie. All that matters is whom is doing the telling and who is doing the listening.

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