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MADDOGzors
THE FINAL STAND
Red Box.
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Posted - 2008.12.18 00:40:00 -
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Lets see, pre-patch all we had to deal with was gate guns. Now, we have massive gates where people uncloak 64km away. Transports can use covops cloak. The web nerf. Battleships can track small ships for crap now. And this one I totally don't understand, if a neutral aggros a pirate he has 30 seconds to de-aggress, why is it that if a pirate engages a neutral he has to wait 60 seconds? Troll away.
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JoeT
Amarr
Short Attention Span
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Posted - 2008.12.18 00:48:00 -
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Edited by: JoeT on 18/12/2008 00:48:32
You asnwered your own question with the topic.
ccp hates pirates. doesnt mean i will change. 
let them have their ideas of being safer. might bring better loot
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Dianeces
The Illuminati.
Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2008.12.18 01:17:00 -
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 Originally by: MADDOGzors
if a neutral aggros a pirate he has 30 seconds to de-aggress, why is it that if a pirate engages a neutral he has to wait 60 seconds?
I'm 95% certain that the aggro timer is the same for everyone.
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ponieus
the united
Negative Ten.
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Posted - 2008.12.18 01:24:00 -
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Edited by: ponieus on 18/12/2008 01:25:23
adapt or die..
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MADDOGzors
THE FINAL STAND
Red Box.
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Posted - 2008.12.18 01:42:00 -
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There's no problem adapting, I find it amusing that it seems CCP is purposely making pirates lives a little tougher with each patch.
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Nomad Storm
The Wandering Path
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Posted - 2008.12.18 01:49:00 -
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Originally by: MADDOGzors
There's no problem adapting, I find it amusing that it seems CCP is purposely making pirates lives a little tougher with each patch.
Gate humping got harder. Clearly CCP hates all pirates.
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Alowishus
the united
Negative Ten.
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Posted - 2008.12.18 02:11:00 -
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Originally by: MADDOGzors
There's no problem adapting, I find it amusing that it seems CCP is purposely making pirates lives a little tougher with each patch.
You're looking at it from the wrong perspective. They're making life easier for most of their paying customers, a byproduct of this is making life harder for a small minority of their paying customers.
That's life.
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Tchell Dahhn
Suddenly Ninjas
Tear Extraction And Reclamation Service
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Posted - 2008.12.18 03:46:00 -
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Originally by: Alowishus
You're looking at it from the wrong perspective. They're making life easier for most of their paying customers, a byproduct of this is making life harder for a small minority of their paying customers.
Every day I wonder if a new shard called EvE Offline, where Missioning and Mining are the only options, and farts smelled like bubblegum, wouldn't make a smart idea.
(I hardly ever get to use that smilie. I'm happy I got to with this post.)
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1Evildude
Gallente
Task Force Zener
Atlas Alliance
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Posted - 2008.12.18 04:53:00 -
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Edited by: 1Evildude on 18/12/2008 04:53:25
You guys are looking past the point... with these changes CCP is helping pirating.
Just think about it for a min, if carebears have better chances of getting away, low sec will become more worth while to them. It means you will have to chance your tactics, but there's better chance of hitting decent targets.
Anycase, that's how I see it.
Mega Night Out!
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Jamis Bakar
Shade Holding Corp
Shade Underworld
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Posted - 2008.12.18 05:10:00 -
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Originally by: MADDOGzors
Lets see, pre-patch all we had to deal with was gate guns. Now, we have massive gates where people uncloak 64km away.
Like someone else said, 'adapt or die'. "Ohnoes, I can't guarantee that I can't scram anyone just by riding the gate like a demented dog!".
Carebear tears, sweet. The tears of a frustrated Yarr? Priceless.
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Siriyana
Astrum Contract Services Group
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Posted - 2008.12.18 05:17:00 -
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Originally by: Dianeces
Originally by: MADDOGzors
if a neutral aggros a pirate he has 30 seconds to de-aggress, why is it that if a pirate engages a neutral he has to wait 60 seconds?
I'm 95% certain that the aggro timer is the same for everyone.
I am 138% certain!
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Padan Fain
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Posted - 2008.12.18 05:54:00 -
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Originally by: Jamis Bakar
Originally by: MADDOGzors
Lets see, pre-patch all we had to deal with was gate guns. Now, we have massive gates where people uncloak 64km away.
Like someone else said, 'adapt or die'. "Ohnoes, I can't guarantee that I can't scram anyone just by riding the gate like a demented dog!".
Carebear tears, sweet. The tears of a frustrated Yarr? Priceless.
I'm stuck with the vision of some guy dry humping the jumpgate now. Thanks.
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z0de
Gallente
The Bastards
The Bastards.
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Posted - 2008.12.18 06:16:00 -
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The only problem i have is: assisting an outlaw when he does not have a gcc gives you a gcc.
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tiller
Ministry of Destruction
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Posted - 2008.12.18 08:05:00 -
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pirates make people quit eve, that hurts bank bal... over last 5 years bit by bit they think of new ways to stop us
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Marcus TheMartin
Gallente
Tuxedo.
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Posted - 2008.12.18 08:13:00 -
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Edited by: Marcus TheMartin on 18/12/2008 08:15:46
Originally by: tiller
pirates make people quit eve, that hurts bank bal... over last 5 years bit by bit they think of new ways to stop us
look at your ****ing chin wtf
also 64km away ‽
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Kirra Liu
Gemini Industries Inc
Sylph Alliance
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Posted - 2008.12.18 08:49:00 -
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They have made things harder and harder for the pirate folk of Eve, but by making it harder for pirates they also give carebears a false sense of security. The ammount of carebears who have been whining because they got blown up on autopilot has gone up tbh, because of the changes with sec status penalties and CONCORD response times they have thought they were now immune to the yarr.
As for the size of gates, yeah that sucks but it's not just pirates who are effected. It's everyone who is involved in pvp. I hate the term of adapt of die, but it really applies here.
The 30 seconds time for neutral parties to de-agress is rubbish, I am 7779% sure. And military experts are calling it innacurate.
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Hermiat
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Posted - 2008.12.18 10:26:00 -
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Edited by: Hermiat on 18/12/2008 10:27:59
Ohhhh Noes!!! We can't sit in a huge blob at the gate employing 0 skill and picking unsuspecting ppl off as they come thru in a slow ship. Is it just me or are these tactics totally pityful & cowardly anyway?
Go and do some real pvp! I.E the kind that actually involves fighting a reasonably fair fight.
EDIT: An afterthought! Maybe this is just payback for all the ppl who used to beat you up and steal your dinner money every day at school!
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Surfin's PlunderBunny
Minmatar
Ninjas N Pirates
Wong Thong Crew
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Posted - 2008.12.18 10:41:00 -
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CCP totally hates pirates... I mean capital industrials??? WTF?!
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tiller
Ministry of Destruction
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Posted - 2008.12.18 10:43:00 -
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Edited by: tiller on 18/12/2008 10:43:39
Originally by: Hermiat
Edited by: Hermiat on 18/12/2008 10:27:59
Ohhhh Noes!!! We can't sit in a huge blob at the gate employing 0 skill and picking unsuspecting ppl off as they come thru in a slow ship. Is it just me or are these tactics totally pityful & cowardly anyway?
Go and do some real pvp! I.E the kind that actually involves fighting a reasonably fair fight.
EDIT: An afterthought! Maybe this is just payback for all the ppl who used to beat you up and steal your dinner money every day at school!
real pvp just lol, whats real pvp ? 
nothing is fair in eve, EVER, people who think there is 'fair' usually end up blubbing, oh wait... your doing it now
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Radarboy
IDLE GUNS
IDLE EMPIRE
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Posted - 2008.12.18 10:45:00 -
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Originally by: Hermiat
Edited by: Hermiat on 18/12/2008 10:27:59
Ohhhh Noes!!! We can't sit in a huge blob at the gate employing 0 skill and picking unsuspecting ppl off as they come thru in a slow ship. Is it just me or are these tactics totally pityful & cowardly anyway?
Go and do some real pvp! I.E the kind that actually involves fighting a reasonably fair fight.
EDIT: An afterthought! Maybe this is just payback for all the ppl who used to beat you up and steal your dinner money every day at school!
Do you wanna talk about it? Did you get killed on a gate today?
They're tactics that kill stuff fast.
Either way...do the "real" pvpers go "hey we can bring 2 battleships and a bc against this BS, but meh i think we'll just bring 1 bs, we wanna make sure its 'fair'."
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Mickey Simon
Noir.
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Posted - 2008.12.18 10:51:00 -
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Originally by: Radarboy
Either way...do the "real" pvpers go "hey we can bring 2 battleships and a bc against this BS, but meh i think we'll just bring 1 bs, we wanna make sure its 'fair'."
I lol'd at the thought of that.
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Hermiat
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Posted - 2008.12.18 10:54:00 -
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Originally by: Radarboy
Originally by: Hermiat
Edited by: Hermiat on 18/12/2008 10:27:59
Ohhhh Noes!!! We can't sit in a huge blob at the gate employing 0 skill and picking unsuspecting ppl off as they come thru in a slow ship. Is it just me or are these tactics totally pityful & cowardly anyway?
Go and do some real pvp! I.E the kind that actually involves fighting a reasonably fair fight.
EDIT: An afterthought! Maybe this is just payback for all the ppl who used to beat you up and steal your dinner money every day at school!
Do you wanna talk about it? Did you get killed on a gate today?
They're tactics that kill stuff fast.
Either way...do the "real" pvpers go "hey we can bring 2 battleships and a bc against this BS, but meh i think we'll just bring 1 bs, we wanna make sure its 'fair'."
I havn't actually been killed at any gates full stop, although it seems like a whine it is more of an observation. A lot of ships popped at gatecamps are haulers, and single ships against, sometimes 9 or 10 ppl at a camp. Does this really take any skill at all? and you want it handed to you on a plate by CCP?
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Hermiat
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Posted - 2008.12.18 10:56:00 -
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Originally by: tiller
Edited by: tiller on 18/12/2008 10:43:39
Originally by: Hermiat
Edited by: Hermiat on 18/12/2008 10:27:59
Ohhhh Noes!!! We can't sit in a huge blob at the gate employing 0 skill and picking unsuspecting ppl off as they come thru in a slow ship. Is it just me or are these tactics totally pityful & cowardly anyway?
Go and do some real pvp! I.E the kind that actually involves fighting a reasonably fair fight.
EDIT: An afterthought! Maybe this is just payback for all the ppl who used to beat you up and steal your dinner money every day at school!
real pvp just lol, whats real pvp ?
nothing is fair in eve, EVER, people who think there is 'fair' usually end up blubbing, oh wait... your doing it now
And you were definatley on the receiving end of a wedgy or three every single day of your school life! :) |
tiller
Ministry of Destruction
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Posted - 2008.12.18 10:57:00 -
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Originally by: Hermiat
Originally by: tiller
Edited by: tiller on 18/12/2008 10:43:39
Originally by: Hermiat
Edited by: Hermiat on 18/12/2008 10:27:59
Ohhhh Noes!!! We can't sit in a huge blob at the gate employing 0 skill and picking unsuspecting ppl off as they come thru in a slow ship. Is it just me or are these tactics totally pityful & cowardly anyway?
Go and do some real pvp! I.E the kind that actually involves fighting a reasonably fair fight.
EDIT: An afterthought! Maybe this is just payback for all the ppl who used to beat you up and steal your dinner money every day at school!
real pvp just lol, whats real pvp ?
nothing is fair in eve, EVER, people who think there is 'fair' usually end up blubbing, oh wait... your doing it now
And you were definatley on the receiving end of a wedgy or three every single day of your school life! :)
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Voltain
BEER Inc.
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Posted - 2008.12.18 11:10:00 -
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Originally by: 1Evildude
Edited by: 1Evildude on 18/12/2008 04:53:25
You guys are looking past the point... with these changes CCP is helping pirating.
Just think about it for a min, if carebears have better chances of getting away, low sec will become more worth while to them. It means you will have to chance your tactics, but there's better chance of hitting decent targets.
Anycase, that's how I see it.
This is how I see things as well, 23/7 gate camps and other un-subtle acts did more damage to pirating and low sec in general than changes CCP have made to game mechanics. If piracy is too hard for you, do those thatÆll put in the effort a favour, give up. |
Enden Assulu
Caldari
JinTech Industries
Soldiers of the Forgotten Abyss
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Posted - 2008.12.18 11:25:00 -
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Military experts are calling it an epic fail!
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Rivur'Tam
the united
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Posted - 2008.12.18 11:40:00 -
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Originally by: Hermiat
Edited by: Hermiat on 18/12/2008 10:27:59
Ohhhh Noes!!! We can't sit in a huge blob at the gate employing 0 skill and picking unsuspecting ppl off as they come thru in a slow ship. Is it just me or are these tactics totally pityful & cowardly anyway?
Go and do some real pvp! I.E the kind that actually involves fighting a reasonably fair fight.
EDIT: An afterthought! Maybe this is just payback for all the ppl who used to beat you up and steal your dinner money every day at school!
Do you want some vagisil to get the sand out your vagina
maybe you should post with your main and what is real pvp your 0.0 blobs
And i suspect it was you that was bullied at school
and come back with a stuiped reply you won't do anything but shoot ur mouth anyway
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I like teh secs and teh boobies
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Lavraen
Minmatar
Animus Furandi
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Posted - 2008.12.18 11:52:00 -
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I suppose you could argue that the changes might persuade more carebears to run the gauntlet. Therefore, the overall increase in traffic should mean more "better stuffs".
Eve will always have pirates regardless of any nerf or patch. Remember the nastiest nerf ever (IMHO) warp to zero didn't kill the profession, people just adapted.
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SunGod RA
Genos Occidere
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Posted - 2008.12.18 12:01:00 -
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this is quite a controversial subject, the cause of many disagreements and family drama in many countries and space systems.
to shed true light on this amazingly complex and current issue, our carefully assembled team of reporters, composed of POUT THE ROBOT (camera) and SPUD THE DINOSAUR (research, interviewer) were sent across the gulf of space and time to the beautiful island of Islande to try and valiantly uncover the truth and put the lies in the past for the betterment of all civilization.
as they sifted thru dozens and hundreds of information sources and various appetizing shark buffet, they first reports came in: it's true. pirate ARE responsible. pirates are THE TRUE SCOURGE OF THE UNIVERSE. bad hair days, traffic congestion, allergies, flakey hardware, IT'S ALL PIRATES' FAULT. that weird smell you can't place? PIRATES
not only that but preliminary reports confirm it: CCP DISLIKES PIRATES. our reporters, to the peril of their lives, have uncovered that SECRET ANTI-PIRATE VOODOO SPACE DOLLS (shooting low-watt lasers) are brazenly distributed amongly employees and staff, their use encouraged, and secret ANTI-PIRATES meetings are being forcefully imposed upon the members of the community. there even rumors of recovered ancient sacred anti-pirate texts!!! the release of this information could crash the hyperworld markets!!!
sadly Pout's camera footage was unshamedly taken away by giant space robots and confiscated during an epic and spectacular escape attempt, destroying all the evidence for this amazing and incredible information that was assembled by one of the PINNACLES pan-galatic reporter teams, who will from now on cling forevermore to the firmament of amazingly compelling and thrutful news reporting. |
SPECTROOPER X1122
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Posted - 2008.12.18 12:09:00 -
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Originally by: Alowishus
Originally by: MADDOGzors
There's no problem adapting, I find it amusing that it seems CCP is purposely making pirates lives a little tougher with each patch.
You're looking at it from the wrong perspective. They're making life easier for most of their paying customers, a byproduct of this is making life harder for a small minority of their paying customers.
That's life.
Don't we all have a pirate alt stashed somewhere in lowsec doing something nasty to the poor newbs out there?!
~~~~~~I am just and alt~~~~~~~
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