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Aurora Morgan	Posted - 2009.02.02 11:50:00 - [61] Yes, it's quite odd that they removed wget (even though I prefer curl. But it's not like it's eating up much space or anything.) I come from a unix/linux background myself and tend to have a few scripts lying around doing these kinds of things. The callstack implies that it can't find the version of the database ([Ceres version] is only one line, so the full dump shouldn't be necissary), which I guess means that the database isn't portable between computers (I have no idea why, really, a design decision of Apple's?). I really appreciate you testing this, because I was thinking of distributing the database with the application to remove the necessity of downloading all the xml files. The sqlite database includes a bit of binary metadata (in the table Z_Metadata) and I guess that is the cause of this problem. I am going to look through the downloading code this afternoon, because something must be mildly odd with it...
Norwood Franskly Minmatar Fleet of the Damned B.L.A.C.K.	Posted - 2009.02.02 12:00:00 - [62] I've been looking over it and it's your server permissions I'm pretty sure. I noticed the Ceres 0.0.7.sqlite3 file was listed as being 200 kb+ on your site but the verion I had downloaded (both trough firefox and curl) was only 4 bytes. Out of curiosity I tried the old binary version (0.06) and it worked fine. I tried to open (as opposed to right click save link as) the 0.07 db file (http://ceres.doesntexist.org/db/Ceres 0.0.7.sqlite3) and I got a 403 permission denied error (didn't get this on the 0.0.6 db, just tested) so I think a simple chmod on the 0.07 files will fix all the issues people are having.
Aurora Morgan	Posted - 2009.02.02 15:08:00 - [63] Odd, Well, I did a chown/chgrp -R on all the server files, could you try again, please?
KW Mech Caldari	Posted - 2009.02.04 06:01:00 - [64] I'm kind of surprised that this thread hasn't been stickied yet.
Aurora Morgan	Posted - 2009.02.04 16:20:00 - [65] Originally by: KW Mech I'm kind of surprised that this thread hasn't been stickied yet. Thanks! But it tends to be quite high all the time anyhow, this isn't a very high volume forum. 0.0.8 Ibridi's awesome XML-generation script. Updated all the models and fixed the loading of the new XML. Make the loader event based (A bit at least) Added implants, shows up for stats. But no list yet. Migration from one database version to the next (Experimental: Rename your database from Ceres 0.0.7.sqlite3 to Ceres.sqlite3). Ps. 4th most popular thread now. As always http://Ceres.doesntexist.org/bin or just use the auto updater.
Sazuka Kirr Es and Whizz Hedonistic Imperative	Posted - 2009.02.04 20:33:00 - [66] Rumour goes that Chuck Norris owns a Mac, plays EVE and thoroughly endorses this client. Also, it's a great piece of software ... although it may not have the full functionality of EVEMon just yet, Aurora is constantly listening to the comments and criticisms of the client in the OS X channel in-game. With near daily updates, there's no reason not to download Ceres! P.S. feel free to send me the 5 mil ISK fee for this post whenever you're ready, Aurora ...
Aurora Morgan	Posted - 2009.02.04 20:39:00 - [67] Originally by: Sazuka Kirr P.S. feel free to send me the 5 mil ISK fee for this post whenever you're ready, Aurora ... I multiplied the ISK count by the square root of -1 since you're so awesome. Btw. I had a power surge for some reason, but the download server is starting up again.
Throrur	Posted - 2009.02.04 22:43:00 - [68] I really like it so far. I would love to have an iPhone version. Since you are already in Xcode and Obj C, would be nice to see it.
Aurora Morgan	Posted - 2009.02.04 23:37:00 - [69] Edited by: Aurora Morgan on 04/02/2009 23:37:26 Originally by: Throrur I really like it so far. I would love to have an iPhone version. Since you are already in Xcode and Obj C, would be nice to see it. Thanks for testing, if you have any bugs. Please post here or talk to me in game. About the iPhone port, sorry, But the problem is that iPhone doesn't support neither Core Data nor Garbage Collection right now. So unfortunatly would porting it would be about as hard as writing something from scratch. But when Apple ports Core Data and updates the ObjC runtime on the iPhone, then it would just be the case of writing a new UI.
KW Mech Caldari	Posted - 2009.02.05 01:27:00 - [70] The autoupdater failed to install 0.0.8.4 It encountered and error when trying to install it, but I managed to download it manually ok, so all is well.
Aurora Morgan	Posted - 2009.02.05 06:40:00 - [71] Originally by: KW Mech The autoupdater failed to install 0.0.8.4 It encountered and error when trying to install it, but I managed to download it manually ok, so all is well. Any error message? Could you check the Console? (/Applications/Utilities/Console/.) Any related messages would be marked with Ceres and "Sparkle".
KW Mech Caldari	Posted - 2009.02.05 15:31:00 - [72] This was all I could find: 04/02/09 5:16:40 PM Ceres[429] Ceres.server.playerCountUpdated Sent 04/02/09 5:17:41 PM Ceres[429] Sparkle Error: An error occurred while installing the update. Please try again later. 04/02/09 5:17:41 PM Ceres[429] Sparkle Error (continued): Couldn't find an appropriate update in the downloaded package. 04/02/09 5:18:36 PM Ceres[429] Sparkle Error: An error occurred while installing the update. Please try again later. 04/02/09 5:18:36 PM Ceres[429] Sparkle Error (continued): Couldn't find an appropriate update in the downloaded package. 04/02/09 5:21:09 PM Ceres[442] Application version: 0.0.8 Database version: (null) Hope that helps.
Aurora Morgan	Posted - 2009.02.05 18:19:00 - [73] Originally by: KW Mech This was all I could find: 04/02/09 5:16:40 PM Ceres[429] Ceres.server.playerCountUpdated Sent 04/02/09 5:17:41 PM Ceres[429] Sparkle Error: An error occurred while installing the update. Please try again later. 04/02/09 5:17:41 PM Ceres[429] Sparkle Error (continued): Couldn't find an appropriate update in the downloaded package. 04/02/09 5:18:36 PM Ceres[429] Sparkle Error: An error occurred while installing the update. Please try again later. 04/02/09 5:18:36 PM Ceres[429] Sparkle Error (continued): Couldn't find an appropriate update in the downloaded package. 04/02/09 5:21:09 PM Ceres[442] Application version: 0.0.8 Database version: (null) Hope that helps. Oh, that's exactly what I wanted. But I don't know what caused the error, might have been a problem with the webserver. There was some power failures yesterday, and the timing might have been perfect. I need to get a UPS...
Throrur	Posted - 2009.02.06 06:19:00 - [74] Originally by: Aurora Morgan Thanks for testing, if you have any bugs. Please post here or talk to me in game. About the iPhone port, sorry, But the problem is that iPhone doesn't support neither Core Data nor Garbage Collection right now. So unfortunatly would porting it would be about as hard as writing something from scratch. But when Apple ports Core Data and updates the ObjC runtime on the iPhone, then it would just be the case of writing a new UI. I wouldn't hold my breath for CoreData to be ported to the iPhone.
Aurora Morgan	Posted - 2009.02.06 06:31:00 - [75] Originally by: Throrur I wouldn't hold my breath for CoreData to be ported to the iPhone. Nope, I wouldn't hold my breath either, but it's definatly a possibility considering it's "the" persistence framework on OS X and there are no real technical problems doing it. The garbage collector might be tougher actually, since there would be memory usage implications.
Abulurd Boniface Gallente Mercantile Exchange for Mining And Exploration	Posted - 2009.02.06 19:58:00 - [76] Edited by: Abulurd Boniface on 06/02/2009 19:58:33 I tried one of the first iterations and it scared me. Really. I'm coming back to it in the 0.0.8.4 iteration [although I should know FAR better than to test pre-alfa software]. It's shaping up nicely. I like the idea, I look forward to seeing how this develops. Thank you for your efforts, they are -greatly- appreciated.
Aurora Morgan	Posted - 2009.02.07 01:38:00 - [77] Originally by: Abulurd Boniface Edited by: Abulurd Boniface on 06/02/2009 19:58:33 I tried one of the first iterations and it scared me. Really. I'm coming back to it in the 0.0.8.4 iteration [although I should know FAR better than to test pre-alfa software]. It's shaping up nicely. I like the idea, I look forward to seeing how this develops. Thank you for your efforts, they are -greatly- appreciated. I really appreciate you testing it, and the kind words. If you find any problems or have any suggestions (that are not on the list already). Then please send me a message.
Daedale Epsilon Lyr Tau Ceti Federation	Posted - 2009.02.07 10:50:00 - [78] Hi Aurora ! I just tested the 0.0.8.4 release, it works really fine for me. You're doing an amazing job here, thanks a lot! One suggestion though: the skill list under the character pannel is really nice, but it would gain in clarity if the skills were organized by sections (Corp management, Drones, and so on), with the option to deploy/hide a whole section in one click. Keep up the good work, the whole mac community is behind you! Daedale
Aurora Morgan	Posted - 2009.02.07 12:30:00 - [79] Originally by: Daedale Hi Aurora ! I just tested the 0.0.8.4 release, it works really fine for me. You're doing an amazing job here, thanks a lot! One suggestion though: the skill list under the character pannel is really nice, but it would gain in clarity if the skills were organized by sections (Corp management, Drones, and so on), with the option to deploy/hide a whole section in one click. Keep up the good work, the whole mac community is behind you! Daedale I wonder how I could forget that one, I'll fix that soon(tm). I'll add it to the list, just don't really know how to fix it right now. Thanks for the support, and if you have any more ideas please post them. Any feedback is good feedback.
Hun Appa	Posted - 2009.02.07 16:28:00 - [80] Just installed 0.0.8.4 this looks good!
Aurora Morgan	Posted - 2009.02.07 18:40:00 - [81] Edited by: Aurora Morgan on 07/02/2009 18:40:39 Originally by: Hun Appa Just installed 0.0.8.4 this looks good! Wonderful, thanks. But 0.0.9 which is available should be even better. ;) This is mainly a bug fix/performance release, but it shows SP/hour and you can now close windows with command - w. It's available at the site or from the autoupdater.
KW Mech Caldari	Posted - 2009.02.08 00:06:00 - [82] 0.0.9 is working perfectly so far, Aurora. Upgrade went smoothly. Great job, as usual!!
Aurora Morgan	Posted - 2009.02.08 02:26:00 - [83] Originally by: KW Mech 0.0.9 is working perfectly so far, Aurora. Upgrade went smoothly. Great job, as usual!! Thanks for the support KW, I really appreciate it. Btw, there is a race condition in the loader. So if anyone has problems with it, can they please leave a message here. I don't think it will be triggered... but you never know.
Keldeena	Posted - 2009.02.08 02:33:00 - [84] I had 0.0.6 installed then upgraded to 0.0.9 today. I used app-zapper to remove the 0.0.6 installation first, and it removed the app, also application suppurt\ceres. After running 0.0.9, I import my charachters, but every time I quit, it loses the information and I have to re-enter my API key again every time I launch the application. It's also not updating my currently training skill or my skills list. Is there something in another place that I need to remove?
Aurora Morgan	Posted - 2009.02.08 02:58:00 - [85] Originally by: Keldeena I had 0.0.6 installed then upgraded to 0.0.9 today. I used app-zapper to remove the 0.0.6 installation first, and it removed the app, also application suppurt\ceres. After running 0.0.9, I import my charachters, but every time I quit, it loses the information and I have to re-enter my API key again every time I launch the application. It's also not updating my currently training skill or my skills list. Is there something in another place that I need to remove? Oh, right. My previous post was wrong then, the bug does happen. I'll push out a new version now.
Keldeena	Posted - 2009.02.08 03:09:00 - [86] Not sure if this one is a feature or a bug. When removing a character from the main list, with that characters window open, all it does is remove the number of "SP" from the character window. Should it close the window as the character is no longer listed?
Aurora Morgan	Posted - 2009.02.08 03:11:00 - [87] Edited by: Aurora Morgan on 08/02/2009 03:11:08 Originally by: Keldeena Not sure if this one is a feature or a bug. When removing a character from the main list, with that characters window open, all it does is remove the number of "SP" from the character window. Should it close the window as the character is no longer listed? I guess it's a bug, the current behaviour doesn't make sense at least... Could you try updating to the new version (Using the menu item, Check for updates.)
Keldeena	Posted - 2009.02.08 03:11:00 - [88] Looks like you replied to my previous post before I edited it, so I'll paste the edit in here too: Also, should the API window close once the characters have been successfully added? Currently it just sits open and there's no "close" button (except for the red window one). Another thing, if I hit "add" again with the same API key, it just adds the same 3 characters again. Perhaps a check on existing characters to stop duplicates?
Aurora Morgan	Posted - 2009.02.08 03:13:00 - [89] Originally by: Keldeena Looks like you replied to my previous post before I edited it, so I'll paste the edit in here too: Also, should the API window close once the characters have been successfully added? Currently it just sits open and there's no "close" button (except for the red window one). Another thing, if I hit "add" again with the same API key, it just adds the same 3 characters again. Perhaps a check on existing characters to stop duplicates? The not closing is a feature (or at least I think so), since it helps when adding more than one account. Duplicate checking is a good thing to add, yes.
Keldeena	Posted - 2009.02.08 03:13:00 - [90] New version displays correct skill currently training and also the list of skills in the charachter sheet! Thanks!

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