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Rottenator The Littlest Hobos Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2009.03.02 14:35:00 - [151] I couldn't find anything on this in this thread so, Any reason why you don't compile it for PPC? I have an old iBook (thus with ppc proc) with leopard, but it says my architecture isn't supported. Any chance there will be a universal binary?
Hagis McBree Minmatar	Posted - 2009.03.02 14:59:00 - [152] Edited by: Hagis McBree on 02/03/2009 14:59:10 Originally by: Aurora Morgan Edit: I am now back in business, was home with my family for a few days. Family is overrated now get back to coding!!!
Maria Kalista	Posted - 2009.03.02 15:11:00 - [153] Originally by: Rottenator I couldn't find anything on this in this thread so, Any reason why you don't compile it for PPC? I have an old iBook (thus with ppc proc) with leopard, but it says my architecture isn't supported. Any chance there will be a universal binary? I might think that a PPC version is rather odd since EVE(wrapped) is a Intel only App. Originally by: AkRoYeR ...the beauty of EvE. You have to live on the edge all the time. If you don't stay frosty, you will die! Best game ever!
Hagis McBree Minmatar	Posted - 2009.03.02 15:28:00 - [154] Originally by: Rottenator I couldn't find anything on this in this thread so, Any reason why you don't compile it for PPC? I have an old iBook (thus with ppc proc) with leopard, but it says my architecture isn't supported. Any chance there will be a universal binary? you could get the source http://ceres.doesntexist.org/src/ and xcode and compile it your self, it might work.
Rottenator The Littlest Hobos Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2009.03.02 16:57:00 - [155] Originally by: Maria Kalista I might think that a PPC version is rather odd since EVE(wrapped) is a Intel only App. Eehh.. yeah I run eve on my PC, but I would like to do some metagaming on my iBook while not at home ;). Originally by: Hagis McBree you could get the source http://ceres.doesntexist.org/src/ and xcode and compile it your self, it might work. Problem is that I don't have much space left for the gazillion gig that xcode needs. (poor old 40GB ibook)
Ami Nia Caldari	Posted - 2009.03.02 17:05:00 - [156] Originally by: Maria Kalista I might think that a PPC version is rather odd since EVE(wrapped) is a Intel only App. Unless you are using some stuff that is not supported on PPC (I do not see why you would need that), it could make sense. The EvE client is for the game, Ceres is for meta game. I can see a lot of people wanting to use an old PPC portable to do skill planning and similar stuff while they only use a newer Mac Pro or iMac (or even a PC) at home to play. The demand for an iPhone version of similar tools would be on the same line of thought. Military experts call it a Templar, a fighter drone used by Amarr carriers. -- Sheriff Jones apochribba -- Aurora Morgan
Rottenator The Littlest Hobos Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2009.03.02 22:36:00 - [157] For iPhone apps you could also look at capsuleer and iClone. Capsuleer looks great, not yet much features, but they are on the way. iClone looks great too, has much more functionality no skillplanning (yet). The creator of iClone is also busy making a osX version by the way. Eve-o thread: iClone iClone homepage Eve-o thread: Capsuleer Capsuleer homepage
Aurora Morgan	Posted - 2009.03.03 00:19:00 - [158] Edited by: Aurora Morgan on 03/03/2009 00:27:43 No, there is no real reason why it's not an universal binary. I just turned it off at one time to boost the compilation performance, I'll fix it soon. I think I published a tarball with the latest code, just add the ppc architecture to the options. Otherwise there is a slightly untested version at http://github.com/JensNockert/ceres/tree/master Thanks for reminding me to fix that. Edit: Added git url.
Rottenator The Littlest Hobos Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2009.03.04 15:14:00 - [159] Just to let you know: Ceres 0.0.13 Pre-Alpha is still only an intel app.
Aurora Morgan	Posted - 2009.03.04 17:50:00 - [160] Edited by: Aurora Morgan on 04/03/2009 17:50:22 Originally by: Rottenator Just to let you know: Ceres 0.0.13 Pre-Alpha is still only an intel app. Pre-Alpha 2 should be universal though. (We tested it on a G4.) But beware that if you use it, you won't get an autoupdate to the 0.0.13 when I release it.

Aurora Morgan	Posted - 2009.03.04 18:59:00 - [161] 0.0.13 Released, will add changelog after dinner.
KW Mech Caldari	Posted - 2009.03.04 20:29:00 - [162] Looking very nice!!
Aurora Morgan	Posted - 2009.03.04 20:50:00 - [163] Originally by: KW Mech Looking very nice!! Thanks, Change log for 0.0.13 Sticky main window. Fix calculating sp. About window. A tabbing character view. Double click group cells to expand. Highlight partially trained skills. Highlight bad clone. Universal Binary. Fixed IO lag. Kill the loader once and for all. Image in skill cells.
Solana Dal'Annae Silverleaf Industries	Posted - 2009.03.04 21:21:00 - [164] 0.0.13 is mislabled as 0.0.12 and wants to patch itself again. :P
Hamwicho Caldari TYR.	Posted - 2009.03.04 21:59:00 - [165] Originally by: Aurora Morgan Change log for 0.0.13 Sticky main window. Fix calculating sp. About window. A tabbing character view. Double click group cells to expand. Highlight partially trained skills. Highlight bad clone. Universal Binary. Fixed IO lag. Kill the loader once and for all. Image in skill cells. Beside the version issue mentioned, I seem to be getting different partially skills trained being highlighted. From comparing in-game to Ceres, Ceres is highlighting many more skills as partial. I don't see a pattern, either by Rank or Level. How is partial determined? I'll be able to test the bad clone in the next few days!
Aurora Morgan	Posted - 2009.03.04 22:22:00 - [166] Edited by: Aurora Morgan on 04/03/2009 22:22:31 Originally by: Solana Dal'Annae 0.0.13 is mislabled as 0.0.12 and wants to patch itself again. :P Doh, lots of stuff to remember :( It should highlight if you just trained one extra sp, I don't really know how it works in game.
Rottenator The Littlest Hobos Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2009.03.05 12:14:00 - [167] Thanks for making it a universal bin. Two bugs: 1. I have 2 new chars (<900k sp) which have approx. -2M SP for some reason. 2. If you have the character window open and do "View>Show Server status" it toggles the tabs. Probably no check for which is the active window. 1 feature: 1. Please make the drop-down menus in the preferences readonly, looks much nicer.
Aurora Morgan	Posted - 2009.03.05 16:14:00 - [168] Originally by: Rottenator Thanks for making it a universal bin. No problem, just changed it aeons ago and forgot to change it back. Originally by: Rottenator Two bugs: 1. I have 2 new chars (<900k sp) which have approx. -2M SP for some reason. 2. If you have the character window open and do "View>Show Server status" it toggles the tabs. Probably no check for which is the active window. Could I please have some more information about number one, please? I'll fix number 2 soon(tm) Originally by: Rottenator 1 feature: 1. Please make the drop-down menus in the preferences readonly, looks much nicer. Don't think I understand. No point to have preferences you can't change, right?
Aurora Morgan	Posted - 2009.03.05 19:13:00 - [169] 0.0.13.1 is available. Fixes some minor bugs (about changing between tabbed/window mode, the highlighting and I _THINK_ I fixed the skills disappearing bug.) Added images for the skill groups, please send tips on other images if you find any better ones. I just quickly looked through the image dump.
KW Mech Caldari	Posted - 2009.03.05 19:54:00 - [170] Eye candy!! I like it!

Keldeena	Posted - 2009.03.05 20:24:00 - [171] Originally by: Aurora Morgan Originally by: Rottenator 1 feature: 1. Please make the drop-down menus in the preferences readonly, looks much nicer. Don't think I understand. No point to have preferences you can't change, right? I'm pretty sure he means that right now, you can type anything you want into the preference boxes. He's asking you to make it so that you can't type into the boxes, only choose something from the list.
Rottenator The Littlest Hobos Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2009.03.06 08:20:00 - [172] As described above, the dropdown items are changeble which shouldn't be in my opinion.
Rottenator The Littlest Hobos Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2009.03.06 12:01:00 - [173] Edited by: Rottenator on 06/03/2009 12:03:00 Originally by: "myself" I have 2 new chars (<900k sp) which have approx. -2M SP for some reason. To characters of mine have <900 sp, though Ceres shows them as having minus two billion something skillpoints. As you can see it's even worse than I thought. ;) edit: Bit of fiddling around it turns out that your Int has collapsed. If I add the number of skillpoints the character has to the absolute value that Ceres gives me, I end up with with the equivalent of 2^31 leaving the 32th bit for the minus ;)
Solana Dal'Annae Silverleaf Industries	Posted - 2009.03.06 16:45:00 - [174] Edited by: Solana Dal''Annae on 06/03/2009 16:58:31 Originally by: Aurora Morgan Don't think I understand. No point to have preferences you can't change, right? He means you can do this: http://img530.imageshack.us/my.php?image=pref.png :) Edit: Something I would like to see is to have a selectable character window open when you open Ceres. Also, the initial character selection window is a bit redundant if you use the tabbed mode, so a way to start with it hidden might be useful (with a way to bring it back if you close it, as I can't seem to find one now). Finally, maybe use some form of indicator on character tabs showing which one is training? Not necessarily showing what they are training, just that they are. An idea anyway, I can see that addressed in multiple ways. Oh, and a bug I noticed. If you are using the Tabbed setting, and have the detailed character window active; the "Show Server Status" option is enabled and makes the tab part of the window slide in and out when you click it. Nifty feature, but I don't think it's intended to happen if you pick that particular option from the dropdown menu. :)
Aurora Morgan	Posted - 2009.03.07 16:00:00 - [175] Originally by: Solana Dal'Annae Edited by: Solana Dal''Annae on 06/03/2009 16:58:31 Originally by: Aurora Morgan Don't think I understand. No point to have preferences you can't change, right? He means you can do this: http://img530.imageshack.us/my.php?image=pref.png :) Ok, can fix that I guess. Originally by: Solana Dal'Annae Edit: Something I would like to see is to have a selectable character window open when you open Ceres. Also, the initial character selection window is a bit redundant if you use the tabbed mode, so a way to start with it hidden might be useful (with a way to bring it back if you close it, as I can't seem to find one now). Save which windows were open the last time? Does that sound like a good compromise? Originally by: Solana Dal'Annae Finally, maybe use some form of indicator on character tabs showing which one is training? Not necessarily showing what they are training, just that they are. An idea anyway, I can see that addressed in multiple ways. Might add that, but probably not really soon. Originally by: Solana Dal'Annae Oh, and a bug I noticed. If you are using the Tabbed setting, and have the detailed character window active; the "Show Server Status" option is enabled and makes the tab part of the window slide in and out when you click it. Nifty feature, but I don't think it's intended to happen if you pick that particular option from the dropdown menu. :) Yes, will fix/rename/do something.
Aurora Morgan	Posted - 2009.03.07 16:03:00 - [176] Originally by: Rottenator Edited by: Rottenator on 06/03/2009 12:03:00 Originally by: "myself" I have 2 new chars (<900k sp) which have approx. -2M SP for some reason. To characters of mine have <900 sp, though Ceres shows them as having minus two billion something skillpoints. As you can see it's even worse than I thought. ;) edit: Bit of fiddling around it turns out that your Int has collapsed. If I add the number of skillpoints the character has to the absolute value that Ceres gives me, I end up with with the equivalent of 2^31 leaving the 32th bit for the minus ;) Sorry, doesn't really help much. Could you send a copy of the Character Sheet api-page? it's available at http://api.eve-online.com/char/CharacterSheet.xml.aspx?userId=YOURUSERID&apiKey=YOURAPIKEY&characterId=YOURCHARACTERID
Solana Dal'Annae Silverleaf Industries	Posted - 2009.03.08 15:20:00 - [177] Originally by: Aurora Morgan Save which windows were open the last time? Does that sound like a good compromise? As long as there's a way to bring windows you close back up, absolutely. :)
Aurora Morgan	Posted - 2009.03.11 13:53:00 - [178] Any Apochribba problems? (Other than new strategic cruiser skills, I know they are missing.) I am intending to push a new version as soon as I get some information on what needs to get fixed and I got the new datadump.
KW Mech Caldari	Posted - 2009.03.11 14:10:00 - [179] Everything is working fine for me.
Aurora Morgan	Posted - 2009.03.11 14:23:00 - [180] Originally by: KW Mech Everything is working fine for me. Wonderful, btw. There doesn't seem to be an api-method for the skill queue, so there will not be any support for that in Ceres. At least not right now.



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