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JohnPaulJones Caldari Ceptacemia Systematic-Chaos	Posted - 2009.01.13 23:44:00 - [121] In small group of 5 or less indeed the Falcon is a freaking killjoy. However if there is just one Falcon on the targets side you can easily counter it with a Gallente recon and with much better effect. Wait for Falcon to decloak and pop him with a sensor dampener that wont fail to cycle.He cant lock anything untill he closes his gap thus making him vulnerable to sentries(depending on which side of the law he's on) or your own team mates. That just means you trade a damage dealer for a pilot who can dampen scan signature and targeting range 100% of the time. Its not so bad.
David Devant Gallente Solarflare Heavy Industries	Posted - 2009.01.13 23:47:00 - [122] \signed
Lilith Velkor Minmatar DEATH'S LEGION Red Box.	Posted - 2009.01.14 00:05:00 - [123] Originally by: Opertone an entire gang with 2 ECCM modules on every ship got jammed by a solo falcon, this proves that ECCM doesn't offer enough protection, or is broken. I had it one time when I put 5 gallente racials on a Mega without ECCM and failed a cycle. This proves ecm is underpowered and blackbirds need a boost, or the Megas sensor strength is broken. Fakeedit: it actually proves nothing apart from anecdotical evidence being worth a bag of mud.
Shate Def The Order of Chivalry Nex Eternus	Posted - 2009.01.14 00:06:00 - [124] Originally by: JohnPaulJones In small group of 5 or less indeed the Falcon is a freaking killjoy. However if there is just one Falcon on the targets side you can easily counter it with a Gallente recon and with much better effect. Wait for Falcon to decloak and pop him with a sensor dampener that wont fail to cycle.He cant lock anything untill he closes his gap thus making him vulnerable to sentries(depending on which side of the law he's on) or your own team mates. That just means you trade a damage dealer for a pilot who can dampen scan signature and targeting range 100% of the time. Its not so bad. the optimal on damps would have to be doubled for this to be sumwhat effetive.
Lilith Velkor Minmatar DEATH'S LEGION Red Box.	Posted - 2009.01.14 00:14:00 - [125] Originally by: Shate Def the optimal on damps would have to be doubled for this to be sumwhat effetive. If we're going down that road buffing falloff instead of optimal on RSDs would be the way to go.
Kurunto	Posted - 2009.01.14 09:38:00 - [126] I believe all ECM ships and just ECM in general should get balanced. Not nerfed to heck like the Arazu/Damps were but balanced.
Pac SubCom A.W.M	Posted - 2009.01.14 09:58:00 - [127] Originally by: Shate Def Originally by: JohnPaulJones In small group of 5 or less indeed the Falcon is a freaking killjoy. However if there is just one Falcon on the targets side you can easily counter it with a Gallente recon and with much better effect. Wait for Falcon to decloak and pop him with a sensor dampener that wont fail to cycle.He cant lock anything untill he closes his gap thus making him vulnerable to sentries(depending on which side of the law he's on) or your own team mates. That just means you trade a damage dealer for a pilot who can dampen scan signature and targeting range 100% of the time. Its not so bad. the optimal on damps would have to be doubled for this to be sumwhat effetive. Myth.
DjLowballer Amarr FLASHTROOPER CORP	Posted - 2009.01.14 10:56:00 - [128] So I see one glaring problem with the plan to add Racial Strength while removing other strengths to give an interceptor a chance: I am 200k away I see Interceptor coming At like 150k I turn on a Multispectral Jammer OR Divert one racial. I fly the falcon because I love cloakships and being clandestine. However I can admit that it seems a bit overpowered as I am jamming multiple targets. The way I see it as working better is that Falcon has a big jar of Jam. When all of this Jam is poured on one target, it is near permajammed. This makes sense as a ship that is entirely skilled, rigged, and equipped for jamming should be able to jam a ship that is not. Now when the Jam is spread out over multiple targets there is obviously less Jam to go around so they might break free more often, or be harder to jam. So a falcon on 1 target = Owned 2-3= Little harder but can still work 3-4= Still doable but much less of a chance 5+ = Waste of time This does nothing if people bring multiple falcons to the party, but at the same time a fleet who brings 30% ECM to a fight against a fleet with none deserves to kick ass at ECM
TimMc Gallente Brutal Deliverance OWN Alliance	Posted - 2009.01.14 11:16:00 - [129] Edited by: TimMc on 14/01/2009 11:18:18 Originally by: Uhr Zylex OP is right, they are the f*ing anti-fun. A hostile gang roamed into my space yesturday. It was composed of 2 munnin, 1 sac, 1 curse (I think) and 4 FALCONS**. Seriously... wtf... Edit: I support the idea of making the jam cycle last 5 seconds, or even none (more like ECM burst). This would at least give interceptors the ability to quickly relock and stop them, while making larger ships disabled without sensor boosters/eccm.
Balendin	Posted - 2009.01.14 11:29:00 - [130] waaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhh CRY ME A RIVER!!!!! WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH a Falcont hat cant shoot, cant use drones, cant use missles, does so little damage it cant kill a pod is to powerful, WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHH PLease CCP nerf it cause im so scared.... WAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHH

Balendin	Posted - 2009.01.14 11:33:00 - [131] Edited by: Balendin on 14/01/2009 11:33:33 CCP, the pooor little pilgrim was to powerful, please nerf it, no wait, the arazu was to powerful, please nerf it, no the rapier can web at 50 km!!! wtf, nerf it. NO wait,t he falcon can only jam, has crap for damage and pops like a ballon when hit is just to powerful, please nerf it so NEWBIE IDIOT CRAPPY PHAGNASTY NUBS CAN fight a better equipped opponent.
Gunner Hankus	Posted - 2009.01.14 12:32:00 - [132] General, The falcon is overpowered, please have the United Nations nerf it. Adapt and Overcome. Its part of the game.. Find the falcon solution, then use it.
Garia666 Amarr T.H.U.G L.I.F.E White Core	Posted - 2009.01.14 12:50:00 - [133] Edited by: Garia666 on 14/01/2009 12:50:39 i see small roaming gangs with 4 or even more falcons per gang.. its getting redicule the only way to counter is to have your own falcons or go and snipe..
Dotard Minmatar Suddenly Ninjas Tear Extraction And Reclamation Service	Posted - 2009.01.14 12:50:00 - [134] RAMMING SPEED! (Shame it will do squat, but it's fun to yell.)
SirMoric Caldari State War Academy	Posted - 2009.01.14 13:49:00 - [135] Look mom, I'm in another Falcon thread, come on guys, be a little more creative and use counters. Creativity prevails!! Information Warfare Link - Sensor Integrity Ship Equipment: Electronic Warfare: ECCM Ship Equipment: Electronic Warfare: Projected ECCM Ship Equipment: Electronic Warfare: Sensor Backup Arrays rgds
lebrata Hedion University	Posted - 2009.01.14 13:53:00 - [136] Originally by: SirMoric Look mom, I'm in another Falcon thread, come on guys, be a little more creative and use counters. Creativity prevails!! Information Warfare Link - Sensor Integrity Ship Equipment: Electronic Warfare: ECCM Ship Equipment: Electronic Warfare: Projected ECCM Ship Equipment: Electronic Warfare: Sensor Backup Arrays rgds Nice list of modules dude, although versatile fittings, mobility and having our own BM's is the main tactic my guys tend to use against falcons, its very effective.
alpha charlie Minmatar North Eastern Swat Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2009.01.14 14:06:00 - [137] lol another gneez falcon thread
spuge	Posted - 2009.01.14 18:57:00 - [138] why everyone cry falcon perma jam me when i dont do anyting to block it. sensor str is your resistance vs ecm!!! yes falcon can jam 1-4 boat if no one have eccm, if you do if maybe drop you lock one or 2 time in combat but not perma jam why you cry ecm is too poferful when you dont get any resistance vs it why you dont cry my batleship is too weak when i dont fit resistances, plates or armor reps you you maybe notice it alredy im falcon pilot and maybe 1/100 ships use eccm. now someone cry eccm use my med / low slots. yea your eanm resistance booster use too slots you need find balance between or choose what you tank. think it why falcon is "too poferful" when 1/100 ships use eccm
Amira Shadowsong Caldari	Posted - 2009.01.14 20:40:00 - [139] Originally by: Gunner Hankus General, The falcon is overpowered, please have the United Nations nerf it. Adapt and Overcome. Its part of the game.. Find the falcon solution, then use it. The falcon solution is the falcon itself, just like the solution to nanos was a nano fleet. See where I'm getting at? ...The definition of OVERPOWERED.
Dominik Miethling	Posted - 2009.01.14 20:47:00 - [140] If there are that many Falcons out there, why people still not fitting ECCM? There will obvouisly be a falcon in the next camp, so fitting an eccm is like fitting a web/mwd/whatever :P Also from a Falcon-Pilot: Its quite hard to jam BS with even one ECCM, multiple targets of the same type screw you (no, iam not sitting in station, getting intel and fitting...). I dont even think, ECM is overpowered, but the falcon is slightly(less range or strenght would be ok). I would also love to see something, which removes the falcon from alt-chars :)

Amira Shadowsong Caldari	Posted - 2009.01.14 20:52:00 - [141] Originally by: Dominik Miethling If there are that many Falcons out there, why people still not fitting ECCM? Hahahahaha, why do you think?! Because ECCM SUCKS, plain and simple!
Major Celine	Posted - 2009.01.14 20:54:00 - [142] Originally by: Dominik Miethling If there are that many Falcons out there, why people still not fitting ECCM? Hahaha, because people are dumb by default! Simple
Amira Shadowsong Caldari	Posted - 2009.01.14 20:55:00 - [143] Originally by: Major Celine Originally by: Dominik Miethling If there are that many Falcons out there, why people still not fitting ECCM? Hahaha, because people are dumb by default! Simple No...ECCM sucks. Plain and simple. Some people might be too dumb to actually understand THAT.
Murina Gallente The Scope	Posted - 2009.01.14 20:56:00 - [144] Originally by: Amira Shadowsong WWAAAA do not wanna use a slot better to cry to ccp for a nerf nerf.... Fixed.
Stalina Gallente Deep Space Exploration Squad	Posted - 2009.01.14 20:58:00 - [145] Originally by: Balendin NO wait,t he falcon can only jam, has crap for damage and pops like a ballon when hit is just to powerful, please nerf it so NEWBIE IDIOT CRAPPY PHAGNASTY NUBS CAN fight a better equipped opponent. So all the recons do crap damage and pop like balloons, whats your point MR."37 million sp Industrialist" ?
lordbalan Caldari Deep Core Mining Inc.	Posted - 2009.01.14 21:07:00 - [146] Originally by: Stalina Originally by: Balendin NO wait,t he falcon can only jam, has crap for damage and pops like a ballon when hit is just to powerful, please nerf it so NEWBIE IDIOT CRAPPY PHAGNASTY NUBS CAN fight a better equipped opponent. So all the recons do crap damage and pop like balloons, whats your point MR."37 million sp Industrialist" ? All the other recons need to be boosted.....
Major Celine	Posted - 2009.01.14 21:09:00 - [147] Hey, are "homo falconfailenseis" the missing link between new players and PvPers?
Stab Wounds Caldari State Protectorate	Posted - 2009.01.14 21:12:00 - [148] Waa waaa learn2pvp. should try umm getting some friends? maybe a buddy that can snipe and another falcon? try again.
Amira Shadowsong Caldari	Posted - 2009.01.14 21:13:00 - [149] Originally by: Murina Edited by: Murina on 14/01/2009 20:58:00 Originally by: Amira Shadowsong WWAAAA do not wanna use a slot better to cry to ccp for a nerf nerf.... Fixed. Even a thorax with a eccm fitted has 30ish str that DOUBLE the str of a falcons jammer on a t1 cruiser.... ECCM sucks. End of story. I'm sorry you are not capable to understand it.
Etho Demerzel Gallente Holy Clan of the Cone	Posted - 2009.01.14 21:16:00 - [150] Originally by: Amira Shadowsong I suck. End of story. I'm sorry you are not capable to understand it. You made a mistake while typing, but I corrected it for you. No need to tahnk me ===== "If a member of the EVE community finds he or she cannot accept our current level of transparency, we bid you good luck in finding a company that meets your needs." - CCP kieron...



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