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Tobiaz
Spacerats
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Posted - 2012.04.19 19:57:00 -
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Markus Reese wrote:IHaveCandyGetInTheVan69 wrote:No we want 0H JC delays IF you are in the same station as your jump clone.
Eve is small enough as it is, buy something with a jump drive if you want to get around. Really? Sweet, so you are going to freely and safely offer my cynos to my other place of operations 60j away and pay for fuel too? greatly nice of you, will you bear my children? This is a more lame suggestion than the 12 hour, I would like 12 hour cooldown, means if I make a jump somewhere at end of day, next day I can head back after business is done. 0h samestation is for crybaby anomaly ratters in nullsec who want their slave set ratting carriers, but can hide it away easily for pvp, then switch back for more farming. Flat rate timer, or make it a min same station, of 6 hours, add 2 hrs out of station, constellation, region proactively
The underlined part is the wrong part. Can't you see how ****** up that is?
CCP, fix the forum's image tags http://go-dl.eve-files.com/media/corp/Tobiaz/sig_complaints.gif
Cleaner warbills, anti-memberpadding, no price-shielding large corps:
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1141323#post1141323 |
Rixiu
PonyTek
117
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Posted - 2012.04.19 19:58:00 -
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No. Increase it to 48 hours already, or remove it completely. |
Welsige
Amok.
Goonswarm Federation
48
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Posted - 2012.04.19 20:16:00 -
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Supported.
Anythin 23h or bellow would do.
12 hours would be very nice.
6 hours would be awesome.
Maybe i can start using implants again....
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Free The Mittani |
nubile slave
Furian Necromongers
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Posted - 2012.04.19 20:17:00 -
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Peter Raptor wrote:Brooks Puuntai wrote:Your gross assumption that ALL players want the same thing is horribly wrong. Not everyone thinks like you do nor wants 12hour JCs. If anything there are those who think adding JCs in the first place was a mistake. Personally I feel jump clones should be given a 72 hour delay, and be limited to regional stations. The only quick jump you should be able to do is into another clone at the same station. Surely you cant be serious 
Don't call me Shirley?
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Killer Gandry
V I R I I
Ineluctable.
304
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Posted - 2012.04.19 20:21:00 -
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Nope, JC's already make things far too easy.
Storage clones for implants is risiculius. It actually makes avoiding losing expensive implants far too easy.
Plus you can have a clone for shield support and one for armor support.
If anything the JC's should have a far longer period to switch.
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masternerdguy
Inner Shadow
NightSong Directorate
328
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Posted - 2012.04.19 20:22:00 -
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Killer Gandry wrote:Nope, JC's already make things far too easy.
Storage clones for implants is risiculius. It actually makes avoiding losing expensive implants far too easy.
Plus you can have a clone for shield support and one for armor support.
If anything the JC's should have a far longer period to switch.
This
Things are only impossible until they are not. |
Cipher Jones
The Thomas Edwards Taco Tuesday All Stars
482
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Posted - 2012.04.19 22:22:00 -
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Brooks Puuntai wrote:Your gross assumption that ALL players want the same thing is horribly wrong. Not everyone thinks like you do nor wants 12hour JCs. If anything there are those who think adding JCs in the first place was a mistake. Personally I feel jump clones should be given a 72 hour delay, and be limited to regional stations. The only quick jump you should be able to do is into another clone at the same station.
While I agree that not everyone wants <24 hour jump clones, not putting them in the game would have cost CCP a shitload of subs. Regional jumps would be pointless 90%+ of the time.
We now return you to your regularly scheduled **** poast. |
Burseg Sardaukar
Sardaukar Merc Guild
General Tso's Alliance
115
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Posted - 2012.04.19 22:58:00 -
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Yes, please. There are many times when I think:
"Man, I'd really like to jump to nullsec and rat for a bit." and then remember that if I want to come back home to Seyllin, I'd have to wait beyond that moment through the next day to actually do it. Pain in the ass that doesn't need to exist if you ask me.
We have a blog, it is terrible.
How to fix Bounty Hunting |
Holy One
SniggWaffe
YOUR VOTES DON'T COUNT
184
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Posted - 2012.04.19 23:01:00 -
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Peter Raptor wrote:This 24 hr waiting period is utterly pointless. Why are you torturing your innocent players with 24 hr delays between jumps  Please implement in ESCALATION . Thank you and have a nice day!!!! 
2 hrs
+1 anyway
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Ben Derindar
Dirty Deeds Corp.
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Posted - 2012.04.19 23:07:00 -
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This idea is as bad as it is old.
The jump clone timer is one of several mechanics that enable the excess of power projection that has plagued this game for years now. The timer ought to be extended, not reduced. |
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Maxpie
Metaphysical Utopian Society Explorations
64
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Posted - 2012.04.19 23:11:00 -
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Just make it once per downtime. I think that's perfectly reasonable and avoids "jump creep". |
Aqriue
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
582
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Posted - 2012.04.19 23:18:00 -
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Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:Aqriue wrote:Remove jump clone timer all together.
Instead, when you jump its considered the equivilent of podding and you lose skill points as if it wasn't updated. You can do this as often as you like, there will reach a limit to how often the player behind the avatar willing to risk instant travel for such a high cost and then the other guy might win. Skill Consequences for THIS and not High Sec Suicide GANKING ? Bad idea.
Actually both, skill point loss should be the ultimate risk but it doesn't have to be for ganking (just losing your ship baring a rookie frig in any situation should cause SP loss like a T3 except it doesn't need to be a T3). As its gotten to the point that isk is not a factor (when it comes to some sockpuppeting parrots) but isk can be thrown around for zero risk and high gain...yes skill point loss for destruction of a ship, clone jump or pod would be the ultimate cost. You can't get that back time spent for training, but ship loss and some ultimate fetish to cut yourself by jumping clones would be a huge deciding factor in how much are you willing to risk. |
Kahn Eros
Dark Sacred Night
0
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Posted - 2012.04.19 23:38:00 -
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Here is a superb reason why jc timers should not exist
I have fairly reasonable leadership skills and am the fc. I have a number of targets I will be leading my group against - one set I know is armor based and the other are ***-assed nano pirates.
If I want to fight both or I get drawn in to fight both, I cannot change out my armor mindlink for my skirmish mindlink because I have to wait 24hrs!!!
UNACCEPTABLE!!!
So all you trolls that say there should be 72hr timers or no jc - look at the whole picture before you go flapping your gums
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dethleffs
Immortalis Inc.
Shadow Cartel
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Posted - 2012.04.19 23:57:00 -
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Derek Wiildstar
Wolfstar Inc
0
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Posted - 2012.04.20 00:10:00 -
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As a new player to eve: Get rid of them. They don't add anything to the game. Or add insurance for implants instead. |
stoicfaux
956
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Posted - 2012.04.20 00:13:00 -
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As mentioned in a previous thread, one jump per downtime, i.e. once a day (anytime during the day,) would be swell.
The biggest issue with the 24 hour timer is that it can be difficult/annoying to synch with RL.
You can tell me what is and isn't Truth when you pry the tinfoil from my cold, lifeless head.
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Brooks Puuntai
Nomadic Asylum
KUGUTSUMEN.
515
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Posted - 2012.04.20 00:35:00 -
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Kahn Eros wrote:Here is a superb reason why jc timers should not exist
I have fairly reasonable leadership skills and am the fc. I have a number of targets I will be leading my group against - one set I know is armor based and the other are ***-assed nano pirates.
If I want to fight both or I get drawn in to fight both, I cannot change out my armor mindlink for my skirmish mindlink because I have to wait 24hrs!!!
UNACCEPTABLE!!!
So all you trolls that say there should be 72hr timers or no jc - look at the whole picture before you go flapping your gums
Not really a superb reason, its kind of the risk you take when you make specialized setups. However as far as your last statement, I believe its you who doesn't see the whole picture. You are just looking at what will benefit you only not the game as a whole. |
Surfin's PlunderBunny
Ponies for the Ethical Treatment of Asteroids
1024
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Posted - 2012.04.20 00:39:00 -
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oh yeah, I haz jumpclones  |
Tarsus Zateki
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
493
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Posted - 2012.04.20 00:42:00 -
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Who are you to presume to speak for me. You're barely literate pubbie filth. |
Kengutsi Akira
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
421
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Posted - 2012.04.20 00:53:00 -
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lol... 30 min Hearthstone....
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1109909#post1109909
My stance on WiS
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Cipher Jones
The Thomas Edwards Taco Tuesday All Stars
485
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Posted - 2012.04.20 00:58:00 -
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Tarsus Zateki wrote:Who are you to presume to speak for me. You're barely literate pubbie filth.
Just remember that your mother is a pubbie.
We now return you to your regularly scheduled **** poast. |
Tarsus Zateki
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
494
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Posted - 2012.04.20 03:28:00 -
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Cipher Jones wrote:Tarsus Zateki wrote:Who are you to presume to speak for me. You're barely literate pubbie filth. Just remember that your mother is a pubbie.
My mom's had an SA account nearly as long as I have, she loves Goons with Spoons and the creative convention. |
Lady Naween
Good Vs. Neutral
Stop Exploding You Cowards
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Posted - 2012.04.20 03:36:00 -
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Kahn Eros wrote:Here is a superb reason why jc timers should not exist
I have fairly reasonable leadership skills and am the fc. I have a number of targets I will be leading my group against - one set I know is armor based and the other are ***-assed nano pirates.
If I want to fight both or I get drawn in to fight both, I cannot change out my armor mindlink for my skirmish mindlink because I have to wait 24hrs!!!
UNACCEPTABLE!!!
So all you trolls that say there should be 72hr timers or no jc - look at the whole picture before you go flapping your gums
I have maxed leadership skills (15.8 million SP) with 4 clones for boosting and no, it isnt a big deal. Its almost never a case of having to change all that often, talk to the peeps in the alliance.. "ok i go skirmish, you go armour..." .. so no i am all for not reducing the timer. EVE is so small these days, that making you being able to clonejump more often will just be bad for the game in my opinion. |
Brooks Puuntai
Nomadic Asylum
KUGUTSUMEN.
518
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Posted - 2012.04.20 07:09:00 -
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Welp looks like CCP killed another good discussion thread by dumping it in F&I section. |
Dream Five
Renegade Pleasure Androids
Pleasure Syndicate
157
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Posted - 2012.04.20 07:50:00 -
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good idea. |
jagholas kiri
Sons of Retribution
Malice Alliance
0
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Posted - 2012.04.20 07:52:00 -
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OP cause so much rage.
8/10 |
Ardal Cearul
Analog Folk
SRS.
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Posted - 2012.04.20 07:53:00 -
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From another thread.
Ardal Cearul wrote:Supported.
Prohibiting jump clones just encourages people not to do things until that 24 hours is up. I believe you would see a significant spike in PvP if JC times were shortened.
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Bandalon Ominus
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2012.04.20 22:18:00 -
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I say remove JC's and make the sandbox big again |
Duchess Starbuckington
Starbuckington Manor
170
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Posted - 2012.04.20 22:25:00 -
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Dear Op
**** you.
That's right, no argument, no points to make, just **** you. Nobody speaks for me, and nobody speaks for the entire playerbase. Arrogant little ****. |
S'totan
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
11
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Posted - 2012.04.20 22:25:00 -
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Peter Raptor wrote:This 24 hr waiting period is utterly pointless. Why are you torturing your innocent players with 24 hr delays between jumps Please implement in ESCALATION . Thank you and have a nice day!!!!
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